Speaker 1: It's time for another episode of Danielle with I am
Speaker 1: your host, Danielle Fischel, TV director, podcaster, mother of two
Speaker 1: and from the years nineteen ninety three to two thousand
Speaker 1: and then again from twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen, I
Speaker 1: orbited the world of family sitcom, playing the character to
Speaker 1: Panga Lawrence, first as a teen and then as a
Speaker 1: poorly explained adult. But if you have been keeping up
Speaker 1: with pop culture these days, you may know me as
Speaker 1: one of the season thirty four contestants on the water
Speaker 1: cooler phenomenon that is Dancing with the Stars. Though I
Speaker 1: was eliminated on Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Night,
Speaker 1: or as I like to call it, the night Flave
Speaker 1: of Flave wanted us to know what he was saying.
Speaker 1: I have continued to record this podcast, giving listeners a
Speaker 1: front row seat to my own dancing journey, even if
Speaker 1: it was cut short, and in the process, I've been
Speaker 1: chatting with fellow celebs, genius pros, past participants, and crucial
Speaker 1: behind the scenes contributors in hopes that it could forever
Speaker 1: immortalize the year I tried to win a Len Goodman
Speaker 1: Mirror Ball Trophy, and this week I am sitting with
Speaker 1: a very special person, a fellow Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: competitor who has quickly become a very close friend and
Speaker 1: one of the best results of my decision to do
Speaker 1: this show. She's a founding member of mom Talk, a
Speaker 1: social media tornado or originating in Utah consisting of Mormon
Speaker 1: mom creators who first took TikTok by storm and then
Speaker 1: transformed it into a hit Hulu reality show. The Secret
Speaker 1: Lives of Mormon Wives just kicked off its third season
Speaker 1: this past Monday night, during the same week that she
Speaker 1: avoided Dancing with the Star's elimination to enter the semifinals
Speaker 1: alongside her partner Mark Ballas, where arguably she has become
Speaker 1: the best celebrity dancer to ever do the show, and
Speaker 1: I will make that argument, Oh go back. I invited
Speaker 1: her to the show today to one spend some time
Speaker 1: with her during an incredibly busy schedule, and two to
Speaker 1: hopefully introduce you to the Whitney I have gotten to
Speaker 1: know over the past three months, a kind, supportive soul
Speaker 1: who turned casual, funny TikTok Dances into a larger than
Speaker 1: life celebrity brand she never saw coming. All the while
Speaker 1: she's earnestly worked through the good the bad in real time,
Speaker 1: with the cameras always running. Please welcome to Danielle with
Speaker 1: Whitney Lovitt.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so honored, so happy here too.
Speaker 1: You were saying, you haven't done this in a while,
Speaker 1: this whole being interviewed thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the last time I did it, it was in
Speaker 3: New York and it was promoting the last season that
Speaker 3: we did. Okay, I haven't done any press for the
Speaker 3: season that's coming out too.
Speaker 1: I know. I did notice that I'd seen everyone else
Speaker 1: have little clips and you just haven't done it. Is
Speaker 1: it mostly because you have no time, because you've given
Speaker 1: up your entire life to dancing with the.
Speaker 2: Stars, to living in a studio twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and like obviously people have asked, but it
Speaker 3: can be exhausting. Yeah, Like sometimes you just feel like
Speaker 3: you're saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I think I just kind of needed a little
Speaker 2: bit of a beat.
Speaker 1: A break is maybe saying no one of the ways
Speaker 1: you're learning to protect your peace a little bit.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, Because I am such a yes man. I
Speaker 3: want to say to everything, like I always have this
Speaker 3: fear of like a missed opportunity. Right, but no, with
Speaker 3: press and podcasts, I've I've been saying.
Speaker 1: No more, Yeah, saying no more. Be guesse what.
Speaker 2: No, I'm like, I can't today. I'm sorry. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take a bubble bath.
Speaker 1: Your poor feet. Every time I think of the struggles
Speaker 1: on this show. I mean, I snapped attendant, and yet
Speaker 1: when I think of your feet, I'm like, oh, poor, No,
Speaker 1: you had it.
Speaker 2: You had it the worst.
Speaker 3: When you walked in our room and showed us your leg.
Speaker 3: I genuinely turned the mark and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Why is she here?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 3: Call?
Speaker 1: Nine one one? Your leg?
Speaker 2: Dear god.
Speaker 1: I was scared for you, and I hid it from
Speaker 1: production as much as possible because I was so First
Speaker 1: of all, was so early on, Yeah I had I
Speaker 1: was like that was week three, Yeah, week two. I
Speaker 1: actually injured it during the during my first tango a
Speaker 1: week and then when it was like very bad was
Speaker 1: during week two when I had my chat chat and
Speaker 1: it was like, make sure your knee is straight, and like,
Speaker 1: can't feel my kneecap, It's just floating in a bunch
Speaker 1: of fluid.
Speaker 3: My mom's just like I didn't see it. I couldn't
Speaker 3: say it. I was like, that's because they literally lathered
Speaker 3: it with it.
Speaker 1: Makeup covered it, and yeah is a body makeup genius
Speaker 1: and spray can Yeah, thank goodness for spray Tann. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I want to talk. I want to go back to you.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Utah for.
Speaker 2: A second ago.
Speaker 1: What was growing up in Utah like for you? After
Speaker 1: being on Dancing with the Stars, I'm convinced all of
Speaker 1: Utah is just dancing in the streets. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: is everyone there an incredible dancer?
Speaker 3: Yeah? There's a lot of competitive dance studios there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: which is so funny. Most of the pros are from Utah.
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of dance studios.
Speaker 3: I just feel like in general Utah like there's this
Speaker 3: weird like you gotta be the best culture and so
Speaker 3: I think it's like with anything, Like I love the
Speaker 3: beauty industry there, I love anything. Always make fun of Mark.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Utah has like it's better in Utah. You
Speaker 3: need to go to Utah.
Speaker 2: Like if he's drinking a drink, I'm like, it's better
Speaker 2: in Utah.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. Utah is the version of like it's
Speaker 1: bigger in Texas. It's just there, you go, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: everything's big in Texas. Every thing's great in Utah.
Speaker 3: Like getting like my hair done, my makeup done, like shopping,
Speaker 3: like I just I don't know, I just love it.
Speaker 2: It's so yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just think it's a very like you
Speaker 3: got to be the best culture, which is also like
Speaker 3: it has its negative connotations with it too, like there's
Speaker 3: pure pressure to be perfect and to always appear like
Speaker 3: you've got it all together. Yeah, I felt like I
Speaker 3: grew up in a bubble for sure.
Speaker 1: Do you think that is related to Utah or do
Speaker 1: you think it's more specifically to the LDS community.
Speaker 2: Both?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Because I served a mission of the church in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 2: Do you know what a mission is?
Speaker 1: I sure do?
Speaker 2: You'd be such a great Mormon?
Speaker 3: Are?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I am? This is a missionary lesson right now?
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell our listeners because I think
Speaker 1: there are going to be people listening to this who
Speaker 1: have never seen the secret lives of Mormon wives.
Speaker 2: So you don't have.
Speaker 3: To go on a mission, yep, Like it's option. But
Speaker 3: I went and I served a mission. It's for the women.
Speaker 3: It's a year and a half for minutes, two years,
Speaker 3: and you don't get to choose where you go. Yep,
Speaker 3: that's chosen for you. And I went to Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 3: and that was the first time where yes, I still
Speaker 3: was surrounded by Mormons, but not in Utah. And culturally
Speaker 3: it's just different, like I don't know why, it's just
Speaker 3: like it's like on steroids in Utah. And it's a
Speaker 3: lot more of a judgmental culture. And again like that perfectionism,
Speaker 3: like you have to appear like you've got it all together.
Speaker 3: I just didn't really, I mean still there, yeah, in Mormonism,
Speaker 3: but it's less I feel like outside of Utah.
Speaker 1: Right, So when you go on a mission, you are
Speaker 1: truly I mean unless it's different for I know, the men,
Speaker 1: it's door to door yeah, oh yeah, spreading the word
Speaker 1: and would knock on doors, knock on doors?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is it the same thing for And it's like from
Speaker 1: the moment you wake up until the time it's time
Speaker 1: for dinner, all day every day. Yeah, for a year
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah. And where are you living and
Speaker 1: are you living with other missionaries?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So you get once you get called to like the
Speaker 3: state or the city. Then you get called to an
Speaker 3: area and in that area, typically you're going to be.
Speaker 2: You always have the calm companions.
Speaker 3: You're always paired of the companion, just like a dance partner,
Speaker 3: right right, You're paired with the dance partner and you're there.
Speaker 2: You're with them for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 3: Again, not up to you, up to whoever your mission
Speaker 3: president is, okay, but usually it's you and your companion,
Speaker 3: and usually you have someone another companionship there too. It's
Speaker 3: very rarely just you and that other person.
Speaker 1: So how did going to Georgia on your mission and
Speaker 1: seeing a totally different culture outside of Utah, how did
Speaker 1: it change you?
Speaker 3: Well, it definitely was culture shot. I learned a lot
Speaker 3: about Christianity, Christianity in general, which was really refreshing to
Speaker 3: me because I just felt like everyone was Mormon. I
Speaker 3: genuinely believed that, like because everyone in my elementary school,
Speaker 3: everyone in my junior high, everyone in my high school
Speaker 3: was Mormon. So I just like had that assumption that
Speaker 3: majority of the.
Speaker 1: World we're all Mormon.
Speaker 2: We're all Mormon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so then going to Georgia, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: my gosh, Like, wait a second.
Speaker 1: How come there are so many?
Speaker 2: So many more?
Speaker 3: It was bizarre, like because I've obviously like I've watched movies,
Speaker 3: like I watched the news, like I just had that mindset. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so weird, but yeah, I just I learned a lot
Speaker 3: about Christianity. I learned a lot about the Bible, and
Speaker 3: just like culture in general. It was very refreshing.
Speaker 1: And then when you went back, so you're usually it's
Speaker 1: around eighteen, right, so from like eighteen to nineteen and
Speaker 1: a half. Oh wait, wait, do you like age eighteen?
Speaker 1: Were you eighteen?
Speaker 2: So eighteen for men, nineteen for women?
Speaker 1: Okay, so little for women.
Speaker 2: It used to be twenty one.
Speaker 3: You still had to be twenty one to go on
Speaker 3: a mission, but my group of the missionaries were the
Speaker 3: first nineteen year olds.
Speaker 1: Oh look at you and freaking barriers.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: So then meeting history, Yeah, there you go. You come,
Speaker 1: you go back to Utah, and are you mission? After
Speaker 1: your mission? Yeah, so you're like twenty and a half
Speaker 1: because it's a year and a half, so yeah, twenty
Speaker 1: and a half, yeah, almost twenty one? Are you how
Speaker 1: has it changed your perception of life in general? Are
Speaker 1: you still like are you currently still a practicing Mormon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'd still consider myself Mormon.
Speaker 3: I like haven't been as active as I would like
Speaker 3: to be, but yeah, if somebody asked me to be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah Mormon, I practice Mormonism, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting I And you know, so I was told you,
Speaker 1: I would tell you. I grew up. My best friend
Speaker 1: in elementary school was Mormon. Her dad was the bishop
Speaker 1: of the Mormon Church. And you know, Sundays are sacred
Speaker 1: family days. My best friend and I were so close.
Speaker 1: We used to like to spend our entire weekends together,
Speaker 1: and her family would say, you can spend Sundays with us,
Speaker 1: but you have to go to church with us. So
Speaker 1: I grew up pretty regularly spending time. Really yeah in
Speaker 1: the Mormon Church.
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
Speaker 1: What did you think it was so long? It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's hour.
Speaker 3: They changed it. It's not only two, so they're they're learning.
Speaker 1: I remember, because you know, I grew I went to
Speaker 1: Catholic church with my family before my family left. The
Speaker 1: left the Catholic Church, and I thought Catholic church was long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because how long is it?
Speaker 1: You our hour? Hour and a half. But there were
Speaker 1: donuts after and then I remember going to church with
Speaker 1: them and being like, and then you're separated. You know,
Speaker 1: the parents go to their part of the church, and
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen at Catholic church.
Speaker 2: We also to the other kids.
Speaker 1: The kids go to their different classes, and so I
Speaker 1: remember also thinking that was where I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: where are you guys going? And they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're doing classes too. It was like they they all right,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be over here. Yeah. But I you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up and I knew a lot of Mormon kids.
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Speaker 1: to win. What were your parents like growing up? You
Speaker 1: have two younger sisters, right, have you always been close?
Speaker 1: What's your family dynamic?
Speaker 3: Like? So, my my dad's actually a convert to the church.
Speaker 3: Oh so he's like the only Mormon in his family. Okay,
Speaker 3: but then my mom very like past past generations, Carmen,
Speaker 3: very very active still to this day. And yeah, there's
Speaker 3: five of us, and my mom was a foster mom.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I grew up waiting enough foster household. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, like my mom would take in typically about like
Speaker 3: four to six additional kids in our house.
Speaker 2: So it's like I grew.
Speaker 1: Up with like nine ten people in your house at
Speaker 1: all times.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was chaos.
Speaker 1: Did you have a giant house?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, my mom. You know, my mom and dad,
Speaker 3: we had a pretty big home, okay, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I.
Speaker 3: Just well, when I think of my childhood, I just
Speaker 3: think of chaos in that house, right, just because there
Speaker 3: was always somebody coming in, somebody leaving. And sometimes it
Speaker 3: was hard because we would have foster kids stay with
Speaker 3: us that were like five six years so like to me,
Speaker 3: that felt like a sibling, and then they just leave,
Speaker 3: like something happens, and then they got to go to
Speaker 3: a different home or a family member takes them in
Speaker 3: or something. Yeah, it was a very chaotic childhood, like
Speaker 3: just pure chaos in the household because my mom only
Speaker 3: took in teenage girls too.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, wow, I know. And so this started
Speaker 1: when you were how old, like from as long as
Speaker 1: you can remember.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, so so she Okay, I should take that back,
Speaker 3: because she tried to take in kids that were like
Speaker 3: generally our age, okay, but once we were teenagers, it
Speaker 3: was just teenage girls. Yeah. So in the beginning, it's
Speaker 3: probably when I was like four years old, and she'd
Speaker 3: taken like one or two kids, and then three kids,
Speaker 3: and then four kids and then five kids, and she
Speaker 3: always wanted to try and keep siblings together too, Like
Speaker 3: if like there was a child and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: like they have there's a sister, And then I was like, oh, absolutely,
Speaker 3: like let's keep the siblings together. So yeah, my whole life,
Speaker 3: Like even after I left home, I think it's been
Speaker 3: only like five or six years that my mom hasn't
Speaker 3: been a foster mom.
Speaker 2: Wow, I know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean that is such an incredible thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she is a woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your mom obviously has such a huge heart, and
Speaker 1: like what to be Like, I have three teenage daughters,
Speaker 1: you know what we should do teenage girls?
Speaker 2: Do you think every day.
Speaker 1: That then helped shape you being a person who's good
Speaker 1: at sharing? Like, how would you describe how that impacted
Speaker 1: who you are as a person and the way you
Speaker 1: think about sharing space with others. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: that would automatically make you more empathetic as a person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do feel like I'm a very empathetic person.
Speaker 3: You are, and I always want to And it's probably
Speaker 3: because I also want to feel included. I want others
Speaker 3: to feel included as well. Yes, And I think that
Speaker 3: growing up in that space, those traits just naturally kind
Speaker 3: of happened, right, no, I want all of us to
Speaker 3: feel like we're together.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, you are very much that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think that church thinks of the show.
Speaker 2: Of the Secret Life Life.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: In the beginning, I feel like the community wasn't excited
Speaker 3: about it because the trailer was pretty raunchy and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of Mormon shows that just like don't really
Speaker 3: have a lot of positive outlook. But then I feel
Speaker 3: like once the season came out, there was a better
Speaker 3: response because it was like, oh, like it's a bit
Speaker 3: refreshing seeing Mormons and all of us are like kind
Speaker 3: of at different stages in that faith, some more active
Speaker 3: than others, where I felt like someone who is Mormon
Speaker 3: could relate with someone in the cast. And that's the
Speaker 3: response that I saw, was like, oh, like, we're not
Speaker 3: Mormons aren't all perfect. They don't look done up every
Speaker 3: single day. Although some people in the cast do loked.
Speaker 2: On, I'm the one that doesn't.
Speaker 1: Some of them.
Speaker 2: Relate to me, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like even watch it, I'm like, which is just
Speaker 3: so cathartic, by the way, just bizarre watching yourself back
Speaker 3: on a reality show. But when I did watch it,
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, like I feel like a lot
Speaker 3: of people, specifically in the Mormon community and honestly just
Speaker 3: moms in general, could relate to at least one of us.
Speaker 2: Show.
Speaker 1: When you talk about watching yourself back on a reality show.
Speaker 3: It is so cringe, is it? It is so incredibly cringe.
Speaker 3: I just cringe the whole time.
Speaker 1: What Okay? So I have had this experience before where
Speaker 1: I have been recorded like something, you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: If it's in a video, that's like, say my kids
Speaker 1: are in the video, and then I can hear myself
Speaker 1: in the background and I'm like, I can hear the
Speaker 1: way I say my husband's name, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't think my bubbling resentment was as obvious in
Speaker 1: my voice as it is now that I hear it
Speaker 1: when I'm like John sad not like you know, like
Speaker 1: and I'll think, ooh, so that's what I sound like.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is it a similar cringe or is it more just like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I can't believe I felt so comfortable
Speaker 1: being so myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of both, because I'll
Speaker 3: watch it I'm like, oh, why did I say that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And then sometimes you're just like, what are we even
Speaker 3: talking about. And then other times you're like, I don't
Speaker 3: remember it going down.
Speaker 1: That way, right, but that's what happened, or at least
Speaker 1: may have been edited that way. And if you don't
Speaker 1: really remember, you don't know for sure.
Speaker 3: Because it's you're so far removed from it. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: they come out like the season that's coming out this week,
Speaker 3: like that was almost six months ago.
Speaker 2: Like that's that's a while ago. A lot happened six
Speaker 2: months that's.
Speaker 1: True, you know that's true. But I did expect with
Speaker 1: the way you were setting that up that it.
Speaker 3: Was going to be like that came out like years ago,
Speaker 3: two years ago.
Speaker 1: I was like, I remember what they did yesterday. I
Speaker 1: want to explain into what mom talk is because I
Speaker 1: don't know. I've never seen an episode of Secret Lives
Speaker 1: and Mormon Wives.
Speaker 2: Do you want to join.
Speaker 1: Now that you said i'd be a good Mormon? Yeah
Speaker 1: you should. There's a reality show where we see who's
Speaker 1: the best moment.
Speaker 2: It would be you.
Speaker 1: Because everything I do now is have dancing at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay. So the idea for mom Talk was
Speaker 1: Taylor's idea originally, right, yes, okay, And she recruited a
Speaker 1: few women to start posting on social media to challenge
Speaker 1: the assumptions people were making about Mormon women.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it was it happened more organically, okay,
Speaker 3: where she got some of her friends together just to
Speaker 3: get together to make some fun videos. And then it
Speaker 3: started building traction and then more women wanted to be involved,
Speaker 3: and so then we all just start getting together and
Speaker 3: it just got bigger and bigger and bigger. Like it
Speaker 3: happened very organically. It wasn't like really thought.
Speaker 1: Go out there and accomplish the take the social storm.
Speaker 3: I actually think it was more so like hey, we're
Speaker 3: doing this together, let's have some fun. Like we're moms,
Speaker 3: Like you know how you see like those content houses. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like, well, we're moms. We're not going to
Speaker 3: have a content house, but maybe we can, but we
Speaker 3: also get.
Speaker 1: Together and have some fun and film content in them.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and get together and have fun.
Speaker 2: And that's what it was in the beginning.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, And what did you were you involved right
Speaker 1: from the beginning? Yeah? And what did you think of
Speaker 1: the idea?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 2: I love the camaraderie of it.
Speaker 3: I just like I mean, I love making tiktoks, like
Speaker 3: I just so fun, like I just love like yeah,
Speaker 3: like I just have so much fun doing it. And
Speaker 3: so it's just like you get these group of women together,
Speaker 3: You've got great food music, Like everybody's just wanting to
Speaker 3: have a good time.
Speaker 2: Like that's what it was and sore having fun.
Speaker 1: Were you doing this like during the week while the
Speaker 1: kids are in school? Are there are the kids going
Speaker 1: to school Monday the ready or a lot of them homeschooled.
Speaker 2: No, a lot of our.
Speaker 3: Kids at the time in the beginning were like babies.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone had like anybody in school.
Speaker 1: This is way more fun than a mommy and me class.
Speaker 3: Oh and you know what some people would bring their kids,
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yes, I mean it is like how some
Speaker 3: moms would have just literally had babies and they're like
Speaker 3: just either sleeping on a couch somewhere or someone was
Speaker 3: feeding them like it was so it's so fun.
Speaker 1: It also seems like a great way of like keeping
Speaker 1: postpartum like.
Speaker 3: You gus socializing, setting out of the house. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: I always looked forward to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, Yeah, when was the first moment you realized
Speaker 1: that this was gaining traction and like this was kind
Speaker 1: of a thing. That mom Talk was a thing.
Speaker 3: Wow, I want to say it was right before the
Speaker 3: swinging scandal. Okay, right before that I was like, well,
Speaker 3: this is getting really big. And then that swinging scandal
Speaker 3: happened and then.
Speaker 1: It just exploded.
Speaker 2: Then it just broke the group up. That group chat
Speaker 2: was wild.
Speaker 1: So is the group still fractured from the swinging scandal
Speaker 1: or has there we Yeah, like there's.
Speaker 3: Definitely women that would come to these mom Talk events
Speaker 3: that just like aren't even affiliated with the show, like
Speaker 3: have like completely separated themselves, Like we'll still see them
Speaker 3: at events and stuff. Yeah, so yeah, like I'd say, absolutely, Okay,
Speaker 3: still fractured. Like there's like you have to understand, this
Speaker 3: was like twenty twenty five women that would like I
Speaker 3: genuinely remember one time and I was like, they're twenty
Speaker 3: five moms here right now making many videos. Yes, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: I loved it. So what originally started as you guys
Speaker 1: kind of making videos for your community and are now
Speaker 1: being seen by millions of people around the world, and
Speaker 1: all of your adorable dances and some also maybe questionable
Speaker 1: moments are becoming trending headlines. Did you ever see that coming?
Speaker 2: Did you?
Speaker 1: Did you think ever, hey, I could end up being
Speaker 1: famous because of this.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: No, Okay.
Speaker 3: I purely was excited for the entertainment aspect of it
Speaker 3: on social media of course, Like I had dreams, but
Speaker 3: in my mind they always just felt like unobtainable. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I was just like having fun, Like I didn't
Speaker 3: really think that much into it until we got the
Speaker 3: offer for the reality show, where I was like, oh, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: so this is something right.
Speaker 2: It wasn't until then.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned you had dreams. Were your dreams to
Speaker 1: be an entertainer?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: An actor? As singer, a dancer? What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Did you want to be?
Speaker 2: An actress? An actress? An actress? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Like I I would talk to Connor about it all
Speaker 3: the time, but it just like it just I didn't
Speaker 3: have like the tools for it. Just didn't feel like
Speaker 3: I had like the networking for it. Like I didn't
Speaker 3: even know how to start.
Speaker 1: Right, where would I begin this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And here we are and here you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is like it's really inspiring and
Speaker 1: aspirational that you talk to Connor about it for so
Speaker 1: many years and what did Connor say did?
Speaker 3: We always was like you know, like I even remember
Speaker 3: like making an actor's access like account and like looking
Speaker 3: at the breakdowns and like auditioning just like literally for
Speaker 3: anything and everything, and just I didn't have representation at
Speaker 3: the time though, like I didn't really have I didn't
Speaker 3: have a team, Like I was just like kind of
Speaker 3: doing it all on my own, no bites, like, but
Speaker 3: I just kept doing it, and Connor was always just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you just you just keep going, You just keep doing it,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, this is so stupid, Like this
Speaker 3: is just such a waste of time, because yeah, like
Speaker 3: at one point you're just like, well, if nobody is
Speaker 3: saying something, maybe it's not maybe I.
Speaker 2: Don't have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe this isn't something.
Speaker 3: Made me feel yeah, And then the reality show just
Speaker 3: kind of naturally presented itself, so then all of my
Speaker 3: time and energy went into that.
Speaker 1: But no wonder making all the tiktoks was then so
Speaker 1: fulfilling for you.
Speaker 3: Is because it was like it was like my outlet
Speaker 3: to entertained correct.
Speaker 1: It was a you got to go perform. I get
Speaker 1: to go do a performance, and you have immediate feedback
Speaker 1: because the second you posted.
Speaker 3: Those mom talk earlies will tell you I am crazy
Speaker 3: with my I am I turn into and Mark will
Speaker 3: tell you too, I turned into this director.
Speaker 2: Or I'm like, I've taken this a little too seriously,
Speaker 2: but do it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to look like the TikTok my the
Speaker 1: most impressive TikTok I've ever seen anyone do ever in
Speaker 1: my life. You did five what felt like five minutes
Speaker 1: at the People Magazine party.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the group one.
Speaker 1: That one was fun, the group rap that somehow you
Speaker 1: were able to get you.
Speaker 3: I want to know the organization and that's I went
Speaker 3: into that. Okay, this is my type a personality coming
Speaker 3: out because I literally watched it and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, how does anyone know how to do this?
Speaker 1: It felt like I had just watched someone do brain.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I knew it was gonna be
Speaker 3: hard task because the cast is so big, and I mean,
Speaker 3: these are all stars, and I like, we weren't really
Speaker 3: close yet, so I just like wasn't sure what the
Speaker 3: vibes were. You know, first of all, what a great
Speaker 3: freaking cast.
Speaker 1: Like we will talk about that.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh. So I wrote it out in my notes
Speaker 3: app like where I needed go.
Speaker 2: I needed each person.
Speaker 3: Bruno was a plus in your shot that was that
Speaker 3: was just a plus, Like that was just a happy
Speaker 3: share on top.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wrote it.
Speaker 3: Out my notes, like this person goes here, this person
Speaker 3: goes here, and then before in the TikTok app you
Speaker 3: can you can record it all and like I already
Speaker 3: have it pre spliced, and then once you go into editing,
Speaker 3: you can replace that one little clip. So I'd have
Speaker 3: it all set and I would know which person was when,
Speaker 3: and then I just hit replaced and then you say, hey,
Speaker 3: this is your line.
Speaker 1: So this makes sense because I Mark then showed me
Speaker 1: my little place tricks, so because it takes time to
Speaker 1: go back and find me. Yeah, so you do. How
Speaker 1: long does it take you? So like before you're going
Speaker 1: to the people party, you're like figuring out what you're
Speaker 1: gonna wear and you're doing your glam yeah, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it while I'm in glam, right, And so
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is so boring for everyone except for me.
Speaker 1: So are you you're deciding like Bruno and Danielle. I know,
Speaker 1: Harvy surprised Danielle is going to be from point five
Speaker 1: to one point seven.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I knew I needed to like group people
Speaker 3: together everything to fit everyone and not everyone could have
Speaker 3: a single shot. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1: How you enjoy even that process, like breaking it down
Speaker 1: and figuring it out my thing and it's just because
Speaker 1: I haven't used it enough. My thing is I'm going
Speaker 1: to like why are we talking? No, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: like why is Daniel asking? He's so many questions about TikTok,
Speaker 1: So you do all of that before, that makes sense
Speaker 1: because I could not figure out. It would have taken me.
Speaker 1: It would have taken me the entire I tried to
Speaker 1: do a carousel post on Instagram for my husband's birthday,
Speaker 1: and when I tell you, it took me like three
Speaker 1: and a half hours because I was like, why can't
Speaker 1: I find why.
Speaker 2: Is that picture?
Speaker 1: Oh that's not where that's supposed to go? And then
Speaker 1: you hit back and then somehow something gets deleted, and
Speaker 1: then why do they make you hit a thing like
Speaker 1: you're about ready to delete all your TikTok sake it's new.
Speaker 2: Which I really don't like.
Speaker 3: And they also have like the post to story where
Speaker 3: the draft button is as well. So sometimes you got
Speaker 3: to really because I've done that too, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, great, I lost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just you have to remember I've done this
Speaker 3: for like I would post three to four times.
Speaker 1: A day, oh Mike, six years ago.
Speaker 3: So I just have like a rhythm down right, like
Speaker 3: where I'm just like I know what I need to do,
Speaker 3: and then that's how it works, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, So, yeah, you've got your ten
Speaker 1: thousand hours in TikTok, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: I've never seen the Hulu show, as I told you,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of us who have been
Speaker 1: around for the last three months getting to know you
Speaker 1: are completely shocked to hear that you are the quote
Speaker 1: unquote villain on the show. I don't know how that's possible.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of chatter online that is like
Speaker 1: I don't like the Whitney on Mormon Wives, but I
Speaker 1: love Dancing with the Stars. Whitney. Who is the real Whitney? Oooh?
Speaker 2: I mean this is the thing.
Speaker 3: If someone is following you around every single day, yeah,
Speaker 3: and showing your worst moments, I don't think anyone's going
Speaker 3: to like you. Yeah, I really don't. Yeah, and those
Speaker 3: were some of my worst moments. Yeah, and that's just
Speaker 3: the truth. As someone who wanted to be a performer,
Speaker 3: wanted to be an entertainer. Was there a part of
Speaker 3: you who was maybe willing to create worst moments even
Speaker 3: knowing they might end up using this, but where you
Speaker 3: were almost playing a character?
Speaker 1: Whitney M.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think like everybody has this.
Speaker 3: Camera front ye almost like yeah, like I can tell
Speaker 3: like when a camera is in front of me, like
Speaker 3: I almost like, like, I don't know, I tense up
Speaker 3: a bit of a front just naturally happens. It's hard
Speaker 3: to fully authentically be yourself. Yeah, And I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've met any reality star that would say,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I can just fully be my one self
Speaker 3: when there's a camera right there in front of me.
Speaker 1: But did you know maybe while it was going on,
Speaker 1: that you were gonna be And maybe the answer is no,
Speaker 1: I would have never. Did you know maybe that you
Speaker 1: were gonna because of some of the worst moments you
Speaker 1: had that did you think, like, I wonder if they're
Speaker 1: going to use this and I should play it up
Speaker 1: a little bit?
Speaker 3: Ooh No, absolutely not, Okay, No, I did not feel
Speaker 3: that at all.
Speaker 1: It was not fabricated No, Okay.
Speaker 3: No, And I think that's why it was so successful
Speaker 3: God is because like these were genuine friendships that were
Speaker 3: just in real scenarios that happened that were just blown
Speaker 3: out of proportion, right. And I will say, when there
Speaker 3: is a camera in front of you in that reality space,
Speaker 3: emotions are naturally heightened. Yeah, And so you know, even
Speaker 3: when I watched back on it, I'm like, well, like,
Speaker 3: why did I make that such a big deal. It
Speaker 3: wasn't really that big of a deal. But it just
Speaker 3: like naturally feels that way. It's bizarre, totally.
Speaker 1: I can I can totally see that how you could
Speaker 1: be sitting down having a normal conversation if there wasn't
Speaker 1: a camera in your face, Because you do, you start
Speaker 1: thinking of lots of other things. Is where you're like,
Speaker 1: you just said that and it's on camera, yes, and
Speaker 1: what are people are gonna think?
Speaker 3: And you just are overthinking and over analyzing and you know,
Speaker 3: because I don't care what anyone says, like, of course
Speaker 3: you want to be liked, you want to be like
Speaker 3: you want to be the fan favorite, and I'm just
Speaker 3: not on that.
Speaker 2: Shew.
Speaker 1: That sounds okay, that's okay. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: your prior dance experience. Okay, you graduated BYU with a
Speaker 1: degree in modern dance. Please explain what that means that
Speaker 1: you studied and what was yours?
Speaker 2: This? I studied shapes.
Speaker 3: Modern dance is I mean, have you ever seen a
Speaker 3: modern dance before? No? Right now, it's very you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's just a lot more artistic, Okay, is the
Speaker 3: best way that I can put it.
Speaker 2: And I think some people would think it's weird.
Speaker 1: Right, I know. I know when Mark was telling me.
Speaker 1: Mark at one point was like, I mean she has
Speaker 1: a dream in modern dance. What's this?
Speaker 2: Which is this? Yeah? I was like what, Yeah, just
Speaker 2: like weird shapes?
Speaker 3: No, Like I I absolutely loved getting my dance degree,
Speaker 3: but yeah, like I never was professionally trained in ballroom no,
Speaker 3: like people just kind of took that as I will say,
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff that I did learn, you
Speaker 3: know's tools that's helped me in this space.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, timing, counting.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, like even having your shoulders up by your
Speaker 3: ear lower Yeah, exactly, I get it. You know, like
Speaker 3: I think that any sort of experience, like Elaine had
Speaker 3: some dance experience, Alex had some dance experience, but I
Speaker 3: think like people took this like modern dance degree and was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, she's a professional.
Speaker 3: I was like, you need to calm down, because if
Speaker 3: I was a professional, I probably wouldn't be doing a
Speaker 3: reality show.
Speaker 2: I'd probably like be like a rocket or something like.
Speaker 1: You know, so you have had three kids since you
Speaker 1: got your modern dance degree. Did you dance after after college? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did it.
Speaker 3: I would go to classes, but then oh wait after
Speaker 3: college or after kids?
Speaker 1: After college?
Speaker 2: After college, yes, but then once I started having kids,
Speaker 2: you have not.
Speaker 3: No, Like after I had Billy, I would take some
Speaker 3: hip hop classes like my local like small Town, which
Speaker 3: was so fun. I bet I really miss it. The
Speaker 3: vibes were immaculate.
Speaker 1: But just like everything's better in Utah.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: Go to Utah hip hop classes in Uta knows that's
Speaker 1: where you go.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: I would do dances on TikTok though, right when I
Speaker 3: had kids, and that was again like an out for
Speaker 3: me because I love dancing, like it just makes me
Speaker 3: so happy. So learning these like quick little fifteen second
Speaker 3: dances like.
Speaker 1: The TikTok of you showing Connor that you learned the
Speaker 1: Shrek Dance Wild is incredible, one of my favorite videos
Speaker 1: and rely on the internet. Yeah, it's just it's just
Speaker 1: so funny. I want to talk to you about Mark.
Speaker 2: Oh love that man?
Speaker 1: What do you How would you describe Mark and your relationship?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: Mark is the type of friend who's going to show you.
Speaker 3: He's going to show you what you can do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's going to help you believe even more in yourself
Speaker 3: because there will be moves that he'll show me where
Speaker 3: I'm just like, man.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Man, Yeah, you're great, but.
Speaker 3: Then I'm I'll get so frustrated because I'm not getting
Speaker 3: it the first second or maybe even third time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe even the tenth time.
Speaker 3: But she's no, like, I believe you can do this,
Speaker 3: And it's like having that friend that believes in you
Speaker 3: helps you believe even more in yourself.
Speaker 2: Like that's who Mark is.
Speaker 3: But I see it with everyone, Like it's not just
Speaker 3: with me, Like he does that with every single person
Speaker 3: he's with, completely agree Yeah, yeah, which is very admirable.
Speaker 3: He's so sassy hello and why.
Speaker 1: Say so obsessed with Oh my god.
Speaker 3: That too, I'll like be stretching and I just like
Speaker 3: he does it all the time. Yeah, give me Lord Noises,
Speaker 3: give me an example of sassy.
Speaker 1: Mark.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm sassy too, you are, so say we're
Speaker 2: sassy together.
Speaker 1: Was he good at tiktoks before you?
Speaker 3: He didn't ever really like make those types of tiktoks?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like his personality is really he really is perfect?
Speaker 2: He is he is.
Speaker 3: He's just such a good actor. He's just good at everything.
Speaker 3: Goodness save some for the rest of us.
Speaker 1: Mark, I'm on Mark, what is wrong with you? Nothing
Speaker 1: is the problem? Actly, And so the internet, yeah, oh god,
Speaker 1: we've seen lots of stuff about whether or not Mark
Speaker 1: is of getting any sort of favoritism. What do you
Speaker 1: think about the favoritism conversation? What have you seen and experienced?
Speaker 3: It's so interesting because Val has also been on the
Speaker 3: show for I'm pretty sure just as long yep Osher
Speaker 3: has been on the show for.
Speaker 2: A really long time.
Speaker 1: Posh has been on the show for seven years, but
Speaker 1: Val has been on the show since like the second season, right,
Speaker 1: so a very long time. Mark and Val have been
Speaker 1: there for a very long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think, just like sometimes people, it
Speaker 3: just takes one person to like start a Domino, and
Speaker 3: then it just goes crazy because when I tell you
Speaker 3: that man works his ass off, Yeah, yeah, there's no
Speaker 3: favoritism there. He works his ass off. He works really
Speaker 3: really hard to choreograph the music. There's so much start
Speaker 3: that goes into it, and not only pushes me, pushes himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Again, I just think it's like somebody just says something
Speaker 3: and then people will just like kind of every words.
Speaker 2: I believe everything that's done on the Internet.
Speaker 1: I'm like, right, okay, no, right. Have YouTube been able?
Speaker 1: What has the experience been like of reading some of
Speaker 1: the backlash, reading some of the hate. Has it been
Speaker 1: harder for you, harder for Mark? How have you helped
Speaker 1: each other through it?
Speaker 2: It's been hard for both of us.
Speaker 3: Like it's nice because sometimes I'll be having a really
Speaker 3: bad day with it, and then he'll be having a
Speaker 3: good day. And then sometimes we'll be switching roles or
Speaker 3: I'll be having a really good day and he'll be
Speaker 3: having a really bad day, and so it's I feel
Speaker 3: like we haven't had a day where it's both of us.
Speaker 2: Great, which is great good.
Speaker 3: It almost like makes me think of like mom and Dad,
Speaker 3: where it's like a kid is being upset and you're
Speaker 3: like I can't handle I can't help, but one of
Speaker 3: the parents can.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be lying if I didn't say, like it
Speaker 3: definitely like has affected us. In Mark, I think has
Speaker 3: just never seen it to like this gratitude. So he's
Speaker 3: just like whoa Like, how do you find like the
Speaker 3: resilience in not necessarily dealing with it, but dealing with it?
Speaker 1: How do you find the resilience resilience to deal with it?
Speaker 3: Mark asks me the same question, and I don't really
Speaker 3: have an answer, Like I don't know these people. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it would hurt more if I knew them, right, And sure,
Speaker 3: I have insecurities and sometimes people will tap into those
Speaker 3: insecurities and then that's probably when it's going to affect
Speaker 3: me the most. But when it's just nonsense, I'm just
Speaker 3: like like.
Speaker 2: Right, what this is crazy?
Speaker 1: Like right?
Speaker 3: And sometimes if I see a video and it just
Speaker 3: takes a second to look at the comments and be like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is like not team Whitney, So let me just scroll.
Speaker 1: Back, right, I won't read this one.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read this one. They don't like me.
Speaker 1: Here people that like me exactly on the other side
Speaker 1: of the ad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay this week, Yes, the People's Princess.
Speaker 2: The People's Princess.
Speaker 1: Andy Richter was eliminated The People's Princess.
Speaker 2: My heart after seeing those apps, hello.
Speaker 1: I know. Well, I mean, for a while, it really
Speaker 1: felt like the audience was pitting Whitney against Andy, which
Speaker 1: I think is so ironic because I don't think Andy
Speaker 1: Richter has a bigger fan than Whitney. You are his
Speaker 1: biggest fan. I was sitting next to you during the
Speaker 1: Holiday show. Yeah, and I am facing the stage, you
Speaker 1: are sitting over here, and he comes walking out and
Speaker 1: Whitney goes, oh, I can't my harm.
Speaker 2: I love that man so much.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I freaking And I told him when
Speaker 3: after the elimination because it's such a bittersweet feeling. And
Speaker 3: it was the same thing when you got eliminated. It's like,
Speaker 3: I'm so used to seeing these people in the studio.
Speaker 3: And Andy was also that person for me where it
Speaker 3: was like he just has just this light that just
Speaker 3: if I was having a bad day, I literally just
Speaker 3: needed to like hear Andy speak yeah, I say it
Speaker 3: really dumb joke, and then I'm happy again. Like he
Speaker 3: just has that energy, that ambiance about him like that's
Speaker 3: just how he carries his I'm just like, how can
Speaker 3: you not be happy around this man? You will be happy,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I could not ever
Speaker 3: be sad or mad around that man.
Speaker 2: It's so cute.
Speaker 1: I talk about his banana bread every opportunity. Did you
Speaker 1: ever taste his banana? He makes the best banana bread. Well,
Speaker 1: now I'm pissed, and now I have never had a
Speaker 1: rotten banana in my kitchen without thinking of Andy. Every
Speaker 1: time I see a rotten banana, I go God, I
Speaker 1: wish I could give those to Andy to make some
Speaker 1: banana bread. How do I get these rotten bans over
Speaker 1: to Andy?
Speaker 2: You know what he told me when I saw him.
Speaker 3: He was like, well, you might still see me because
Speaker 3: no one's using this trailer and I need to finish
Speaker 3: this book.
Speaker 2: He's like, I need a quiet work space. Like, okay,
Speaker 2: i'll see you next week.
Speaker 1: I love that, Like the way he's not wrong.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, come on over.
Speaker 1: And the minute I was eliminated, I started acting like
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to be there. I like show them.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Hi, it's my bad. I was eliminated, But
Speaker 1: it still works. Can I use it.
Speaker 2: I like literally walk around there. It's Danielle, don't shoot.
Speaker 1: I literally act like I'm not supposed to be anywhere.
Speaker 2: You're definitely eating.
Speaker 1: And then last night when Robert did his dance and
Speaker 1: he got hit the first perfect forty yes, and then
Speaker 1: I realized there was a commercial break, I jumped up
Speaker 1: and went to go run up into the skybox and
Speaker 1: a woman in a red vest was like, where are
Speaker 1: you going? And I was like, do I just knock
Speaker 1: her down? Please?
Speaker 2: Did you? I basically said, I need.
Speaker 1: To go see Robert.
Speaker 3: Good, Okay, good, I just ran up to the skybox
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I've but that meant so much to Robert.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're so sweet.
Speaker 1: Oh I just I love everybody so much. Can we
Speaker 1: talk about that, because I do want to talk about this.
Speaker 1: Why yeah, why do we all love each other so much?
Speaker 3: I think it's just like we all just have such
Speaker 3: good vibes, like we're It's funny because all Al was
Speaker 3: even telling me Al pop out, no, not Al Alfonso.
Speaker 1: Oh Alfonso, okay, the other al other. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: there's so much Alan Alfonso Okay.
Speaker 3: He was telling me, is like this cast I just
Speaker 3: love how like nobody's petty. Everybody's supporting each other, everybody's
Speaker 3: rooting each other.
Speaker 1: Someone's got to be secretly petty, you think I mean
Speaker 1: somewhere right.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't feel those vibes. No, I don't
Speaker 3: feel those vibes. I I feel like we're all rooting
Speaker 3: for each other and we all want each other to
Speaker 3: do our best. And that's why eliminations suck and every
Speaker 3: single time, because we all just want to keep doing
Speaker 3: this together. I know, but it was it's like we
Speaker 3: don't know anything else though. It's like we don't know
Speaker 3: what the other casts were, Like, we weren't there, but
Speaker 3: it's kind of cool to hear. It's like, man, this cast,
Speaker 3: like you guys have just brought the vibes.
Speaker 1: It really we felt it. I think from GMA, even
Speaker 1: from that gm A weekend, I was like, Wow, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be this is gonna be fun, and this
Speaker 1: is gonna be this is gonna be good times. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to just last thing. I want to well
Speaker 1: two last things yeah, one yeah? Do you want to
Speaker 1: win Dancing with the Stars?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Can you imagine people have an uproar.
Speaker 3: Listen all of us there because we want to win. Listen,
Speaker 3: I would be so grateful to win. That would be incredible.
Speaker 3: I would love to make it till the end. And
Speaker 3: to me, the end is the finals.
Speaker 1: You know, That's exactly how I felt when I first started. Yes,
Speaker 1: when I first started, I was like, I'm gonna win
Speaker 1: a mirror balls, right, And then I started and I
Speaker 1: was like, I Am.
Speaker 5: Not gonna win a mirror ball, but I am gonna
Speaker 5: make it to the finals.
Speaker 1: And then it was like, what if I even make it.
Speaker 5: To the semifinal and I made it wrong way Listen,
Speaker 5: that's far though, It's fine out of eleven I'll take
Speaker 5: for my forty four year olds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no dance experience person who has never done any
Speaker 1: of this before. Yeah, I'm thrilled. I look at you
Speaker 1: and I see Broadway really on your vision board.
Speaker 3: Wow. You know what's been so crazy about this whole
Speaker 3: experience is and I made a post about it today
Speaker 3: where and Mark's having that friendship has helped me a
Speaker 3: lot too. Where like having someone I mean obviously my
Speaker 3: husband me Connor like crazy, but having someone who's like
Speaker 3: done it, like because Mark's done Broadway, Like I look
Speaker 3: up to that man, like crazy.
Speaker 2: Where He's like, no, like you could do it.
Speaker 3: You could do it, like you've got a shot. So
Speaker 3: hearing someone and like Mark's not like he'll tell you
Speaker 3: straight up. Like that makes me feel like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: if you believe it, then maybe I would love to.
Speaker 3: I would absolutely love to love to be in the
Speaker 3: movies Broadway.
Speaker 2: I want to do it.
Speaker 1: You've got representation.
Speaker 2: Now, I do have representation now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does help because there's networking plays such a
Speaker 3: huge role in it. It's like meeting people, them getting
Speaker 3: to know your personality and oh and then they're creating
Speaker 3: a movie and then maybe they'll think of you and like, oh,
Speaker 3: she'd be great for this role.
Speaker 2: Like that's what I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: Any chance you're going to move to la Ooh, I
Speaker 1: know everything's so much better.
Speaker 2: Show, but I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm telling you, we move around so much. Blessed
Speaker 3: Connor's heart. He's probably like he's always down for the ride.
Speaker 3: But I'm for my kids. I'm like, man, I really
Speaker 3: need stability for them. But I yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: what's next.
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm I can't wait to watch I can't wait
Speaker 1: to support you.
Speaker 2: Better be there.
Speaker 1: Oh, every step of the way. Good You're stuck with me.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the long haul. I love you so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this. I hope everybody gets to
Speaker 1: see a snippet of the person I have gotten to
Speaker 1: know this open book. Who is you? Just you will
Speaker 1: tell it like it is and there's no there's no
Speaker 1: affronts or trying to hide, which is so refreshing, and
Speaker 1: I hope you never change.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks Danielle, Thank you.
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