WEBVTT - Danielle with…Whitney Leavitt 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:18.640 It's time for another episode of Danielle with I am 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.919 your host, Danielle Fischel, TV director, podcaster, mother of two 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.880 and from the years nineteen ninety three to two thousand 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.240 and then again from twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen, I 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.519 orbited the world of family sitcom, playing the character to 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.680 Panga Lawrence, first as a teen and then as a 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.600 poorly explained adult. But if you have been keeping up 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.080 with pop culture these days, you may know me as 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.000 one of the season thirty four contestants on the water 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.760 cooler phenomenon that is Dancing with the Stars. Though I 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.199 was eliminated on Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Night, 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.640 or as I like to call it, the night Flave 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:54.680 of Flave wanted us to know what he was saying. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:59.400 I have continued to record this podcast, giving listeners a 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.000 front row seat to my own dancing journey, even if 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.600 it was cut short, and in the process, I've been 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:10.520 chatting with fellow celebs, genius pros, past participants, and crucial 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.760 behind the scenes contributors in hopes that it could forever 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.200 immortalize the year I tried to win a Len Goodman 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.240 Mirror Ball Trophy, and this week I am sitting with 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.640 a very special person, a fellow Dancing with the Stars 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.400 competitor who has quickly become a very close friend and 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.160 one of the best results of my decision to do 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.480 this show. She's a founding member of mom Talk, a 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.559 social media tornado or originating in Utah consisting of Mormon 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.760 mom creators who first took TikTok by storm and then 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.680 transformed it into a hit Hulu reality show. The Secret 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.440 Lives of Mormon Wives just kicked off its third season 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.520 this past Monday night, during the same week that she 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:55.720 avoided Dancing with the Star's elimination to enter the semifinals 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:00.800 alongside her partner Mark Ballas, where arguably she has become 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.600 the best celebrity dancer to ever do the show, and 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:08.200 I will make that argument, Oh go back. I invited 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.679 her to the show today to one spend some time 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.720 with her during an incredibly busy schedule, and two to 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.320 hopefully introduce you to the Whitney I have gotten to 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:21.360 know over the past three months, a kind, supportive soul 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.919 who turned casual, funny TikTok Dances into a larger than 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.720 life celebrity brand she never saw coming. All the while 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.880 she's earnestly worked through the good the bad in real time, 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.720 with the cameras always running. Please welcome to Danielle with 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:40.160 Whitney Lovitt. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.040 Oh my god, I'm so honored, so happy here too. 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.320 You were saying, you haven't done this in a while, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.200 this whole being interviewed thing. 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.240 Yeah, the last time I did it, it was in 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.200 New York and it was promoting the last season that 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.720 we did. Okay, I haven't done any press for the 0:02:58.760 --> 0:02:59.799 season that's coming out too. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.280 I know. I did notice that I'd seen everyone else 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.600 have little clips and you just haven't done it. Is 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.640 it mostly because you have no time, because you've given 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.320 up your entire life to dancing with the. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:16.080 Stars, to living in a studio twenty four to seven. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:21.480 Yes, yeah, and like obviously people have asked, but it 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.440 can be exhausting. Yeah, Like sometimes you just feel like 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.960 you're saying the same thing over and over and over again. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:28.360 Yeah. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.840 So I think I just kind of needed a little 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:30.600 bit of a beat. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.720 A break is maybe saying no one of the ways 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.760 you're learning to protect your peace a little bit. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.920 Oh, absolutely, Because I am such a yes man. I 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.440 want to say to everything, like I always have this 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:45.360 fear of like a missed opportunity. Right, but no, with 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.680 press and podcasts, I've I've been saying. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.000 No more, Yeah, saying no more. Be guesse what. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.840 No, I'm like, I can't today. I'm sorry. I'm gonna 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:57.960 take a bubble bath. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.160 Your poor feet. Every time I think of the struggles 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.480 on this show. I mean, I snapped attendant, and yet 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.120 when I think of your feet, I'm like, oh, poor, No, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:08.000 you had it. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.240 You had it the worst. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.880 When you walked in our room and showed us your leg. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:16.560 I genuinely turned the mark and I'm like. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:18.520 Why is she here? 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:19.400 What is that? 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:19.880 What is that? 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:20.400 Call? 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.640 Nine one one? Your leg? 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:25.080 Dear god. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.680 I was scared for you, and I hid it from 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.800 production as much as possible because I was so First 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.440 of all, was so early on, Yeah I had I 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.520 was like that was week three, Yeah, week two. I 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.880 actually injured it during the during my first tango a 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.039 week and then when it was like very bad was 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.720 during week two when I had my chat chat and 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.440 it was like, make sure your knee is straight, and like, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.400 can't feel my kneecap, It's just floating in a bunch 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:49.919 of fluid. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.560 My mom's just like I didn't see it. I couldn't 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.000 say it. I was like, that's because they literally lathered 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:55.400 it with it. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.600 Makeup covered it, and yeah is a body makeup genius 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.000 and spray can Yeah, thank goodness for spray Tann. But anyway, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:04.839 I want to talk. I want to go back to you. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.640 I want to go back to Utah for. 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:08.160 A second ago. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.000 What was growing up in Utah like for you? After 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.960 being on Dancing with the Stars, I'm convinced all of 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.320 Utah is just dancing in the streets. I'm just like, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.920 is everyone there an incredible dancer? 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:25.159 Yeah? There's a lot of competitive dance studios there. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.719 which is so funny. Most of the pros are from Utah. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:33.279 I know there's a lot of dance studios. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.640 I just feel like in general Utah like there's this 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.640 weird like you gotta be the best culture and so 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.560 I think it's like with anything, Like I love the 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.840 beauty industry there, I love anything. Always make fun of Mark. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.320 I'm like, Utah has like it's better in Utah. You 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:50.080 need to go to Utah. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:51.560 Like if he's drinking a drink, I'm like, it's better 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:51.960 in Utah. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.440 It's so funny. Utah is the version of like it's 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.240 bigger in Texas. It's just there, you go, Yeah, like 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.680 everything's big in Texas. Every thing's great in Utah. 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.880 Like getting like my hair done, my makeup done, like shopping, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.120 like I just I don't know, I just love it. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.200 It's so yeah. 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.800 But yeah, I just think it's a very like you 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.280 got to be the best culture, which is also like 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.000 it has its negative connotations with it too, like there's 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:23.680 pure pressure to be perfect and to always appear like 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:28.640 you've got it all together. Yeah, I felt like I 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.320 grew up in a bubble for sure. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.640 Do you think that is related to Utah or do 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.200 you think it's more specifically to the LDS community. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:36.760 Both? 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:37.120 Okay? 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.159 Because I served a mission of the church in Atlanta, Georgia. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:42.719 Do you know what a mission is? 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:43.240 I sure do? 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:44.599 You'd be such a great Mormon? 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:54.280 Are? 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:55.320 Yeah? 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:59.400 I am? This is a missionary lesson right now? 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:01.920 Do you want to tell our listeners because I think 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:03.719 there are going to be people listening to this who 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.320 have never seen the secret lives of Mormon wives. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:07.440 So you don't have. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.160 To go on a mission, yep, Like it's option. But 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.920 I went and I served a mission. It's for the women. 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.040 It's a year and a half for minutes, two years, 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.000 and you don't get to choose where you go. Yep, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.200 that's chosen for you. And I went to Atlanta, Georgia, 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.400 and that was the first time where yes, I still 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.160 was surrounded by Mormons, but not in Utah. And culturally 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.720 it's just different, like I don't know why, it's just 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:37.040 like it's like on steroids in Utah. And it's a 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:42.160 lot more of a judgmental culture. And again like that perfectionism, 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.480 like you have to appear like you've got it all together. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.440 I just didn't really, I mean still there, yeah, in Mormonism, 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.080 but it's less I feel like outside of Utah. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.880 Right, So when you go on a mission, you are 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.720 truly I mean unless it's different for I know, the men, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.640 it's door to door yeah, oh yeah, spreading the word 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:03.760 and would knock on doors, knock on doors? 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:03.960 Is that? 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.200 Is it the same thing for And it's like from 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.800 the moment you wake up until the time it's time 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.000 for dinner, all day every day. Yeah, for a year 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.160 and a half. Yeah. And where are you living and 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:15.760 are you living with other missionaries? 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:16.240 Yeah? 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.400 So you get once you get called to like the 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.560 state or the city. Then you get called to an 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.920 area and in that area, typically you're going to be. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.240 You always have the calm companions. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.720 You're always paired of the companion, just like a dance partner, 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.040 right right, You're paired with the dance partner and you're there. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.680 You're with them for a certain amount of time. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.640 Again, not up to you, up to whoever your mission 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.920 president is, okay, but usually it's you and your companion, 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.360 and usually you have someone another companionship there too. It's 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.480 very rarely just you and that other person. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.320 So how did going to Georgia on your mission and 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.959 seeing a totally different culture outside of Utah, how did 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:56.520 it change you? 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:02.320 Well, it definitely was culture shot. I learned a lot 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:07.720 about Christianity, Christianity in general, which was really refreshing to 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:12.040 me because I just felt like everyone was Mormon. I 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.559 genuinely believed that, like because everyone in my elementary school, 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.439 everyone in my junior high, everyone in my high school 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.640 was Mormon. So I just like had that assumption that 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:21.480 majority of the. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:22.720 World we're all Mormon. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:23.440 We're all Mormon. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.520 Yeah, And so then going to Georgia, I was like, oh, 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.120 my gosh, Like, wait a second. 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:27.640 How come there are so many? 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:28.480 So many more? 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.120 It was bizarre, like because I've obviously like I've watched movies, 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.280 like I watched the news, like I just had that mindset. Yeah, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.120 so weird, but yeah, I just I learned a lot 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:44.640 about Christianity. I learned a lot about the Bible, and 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.280 just like culture in general. It was very refreshing. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.600 And then when you went back, so you're usually it's 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.439 around eighteen, right, so from like eighteen to nineteen and 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.720 a half. Oh wait, wait, do you like age eighteen? 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:56.559 Were you eighteen? 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.839 So eighteen for men, nineteen for women? 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:00.640 Okay, so little for women. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:02.360 It used to be twenty one. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.079 You still had to be twenty one to go on 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.640 a mission, but my group of the missionaries were the 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:08.800 first nineteen year olds. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.720 Oh look at you and freaking barriers. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:11.960 Wow. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.120 So then meeting history, Yeah, there you go. You come, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.280 you go back to Utah, and are you mission? After 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.160 your mission? Yeah, so you're like twenty and a half 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.320 because it's a year and a half, so yeah, twenty 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.440 and a half, yeah, almost twenty one? Are you how 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:33.200 has it changed your perception of life in general? Are 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.959 you still like are you currently still a practicing Mormon. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:37.959 Yeah, like I'd still consider myself Mormon. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.760 I like haven't been as active as I would like 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.000 to be, but yeah, if somebody asked me to be like, yeah, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.839 yeah Mormon, I practice Mormonism, right, Yeah. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.960 Okay, interesting I And you know, so I was told you, 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:53.839 I would tell you. I grew up. My best friend 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.360 in elementary school was Mormon. Her dad was the bishop 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.880 of the Mormon Church. And you know, Sundays are sacred 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.640 family days. My best friend and I were so close. 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.520 We used to like to spend our entire weekends together, 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.400 and her family would say, you can spend Sundays with us, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.319 but you have to go to church with us. So 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.240 I grew up pretty regularly spending time. Really yeah in 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:16.320 the Mormon Church. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:16.920 That's so cool. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.400 What did you think it was so long? It's you know, 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:21.240 it's hour. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.480 They changed it. It's not only two, so they're they're learning. 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.680 I remember, because you know, I grew I went to 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.760 Catholic church with my family before my family left. The 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:34.760 left the Catholic Church, and I thought Catholic church was long. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.840 Yeah, because how long is it? 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.280 You our hour? Hour and a half. But there were 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.240 donuts after and then I remember going to church with 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.560 them and being like, and then you're separated. You know, 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.520 the parents go to their part of the church, and 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.240 that doesn't happen at Catholic church. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:51.360 We also to the other kids. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.360 The kids go to their different classes, and so I 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:55.920 remember also thinking that was where I was like, whoa, 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.040 where are you guys going? And they were like, oh, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.560 they're doing classes too. It was like they they all right, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.760 and we're gonna be over here. Yeah. 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What were your parents like growing up? You 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.440 have two younger sisters, right, have you always been close? 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:29.560 What's your family dynamic? 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.840 Like? So, my my dad's actually a convert to the church. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.959 Oh so he's like the only Mormon in his family. Okay, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:43.680 but then my mom very like past past generations, Carmen, 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:50.920 very very active still to this day. And yeah, there's 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.520 five of us, and my mom was a foster mom. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:14:01.200 Okay, So I grew up waiting enough foster household. Yeah. 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.920 So, like my mom would take in typically about like 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.880 four to six additional kids in our house. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:09.520 So it's like I grew. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.880 Up with like nine ten people in your house at 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:13.440 all times. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.079 Oh yeah, it was chaos. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.600 Did you have a giant house? 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.080 Yeah? No, my mom. You know, my mom and dad, 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.920 we had a pretty big home, okay, and. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.520 Yeah, like I. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.560 Just well, when I think of my childhood, I just 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.840 think of chaos in that house, right, just because there 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:36.240 was always somebody coming in, somebody leaving. And sometimes it 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.760 was hard because we would have foster kids stay with 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.920 us that were like five six years so like to me, 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.080 that felt like a sibling, and then they just leave, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.120 like something happens, and then they got to go to 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:52.160 a different home or a family member takes them in 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:57.200 or something. Yeah, it was a very chaotic childhood, like 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.280 just pure chaos in the household because my mom only 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:00.880 took in teenage girls too. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:06.560 Oh my goodness, wow, I know. And so this started 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.240 when you were how old, like from as long as 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:08.840 you can remember. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:13.440 Well, yes, so so she Okay, I should take that back, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.360 because she tried to take in kids that were like 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.440 generally our age, okay, but once we were teenagers, it 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:23.600 was just teenage girls. Yeah. So in the beginning, it's 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.960 probably when I was like four years old, and she'd 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.200 taken like one or two kids, and then three kids, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.000 and then four kids and then five kids, and she 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.400 always wanted to try and keep siblings together too, Like 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.120 if like there was a child and they're like, oh, 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.720 like they have there's a sister, And then I was like, oh, absolutely, 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.520 like let's keep the siblings together. So yeah, my whole life, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.600 Like even after I left home, I think it's been 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.000 only like five or six years that my mom hasn't 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:53.200 been a foster mom. 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:55.520 Wow, I know, it's crazy. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.960 I mean that is such an incredible thing. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:00.520 Oh yeah, she is a woman. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:05.520 Yeah, your mom obviously has such a huge heart, and 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.920 like what to be Like, I have three teenage daughters, 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.200 you know what we should do teenage girls? 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:14.600 Do you think every day. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.240 That then helped shape you being a person who's good 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:22.960 at sharing? Like, how would you describe how that impacted 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.000 who you are as a person and the way you 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.840 think about sharing space with others. Yeah, I feel like 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.800 that would automatically make you more empathetic as a person. 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.160 Yeah, I do feel like I'm a very empathetic person. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:41.080 You are, and I always want to And it's probably 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.640 because I also want to feel included. I want others 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.080 to feel included as well. Yes, And I think that 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:52.400 growing up in that space, those traits just naturally kind 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.080 of happened, right, no, I want all of us to 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:55.760 feel like we're together. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.120 You know, yes, you are very much that way. Yeah, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.320 what do you think that church thinks of the show. 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:03.560 Of the Secret Life Life. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:04.040 Yes. 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.320 In the beginning, I feel like the community wasn't excited 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:12.040 about it because the trailer was pretty raunchy and there's 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.240 a lot of Mormon shows that just like don't really 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.120 have a lot of positive outlook. But then I feel 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.439 like once the season came out, there was a better 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.880 response because it was like, oh, like it's a bit 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:29.480 refreshing seeing Mormons and all of us are like kind 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.920 of at different stages in that faith, some more active 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.960 than others, where I felt like someone who is Mormon 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.919 could relate with someone in the cast. And that's the 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.280 response that I saw, was like, oh, like, we're not 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:46.920 Mormons aren't all perfect. They don't look done up every 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.920 single day. Although some people in the cast do loked. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.320 On, I'm the one that doesn't. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.560 Some of them. 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:57.240 Relate to me, you know. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.639 Yeah, Like even watch it, I'm like, which is just 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.920 so cathartic, by the way, just bizarre watching yourself back 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.720 on a reality show. But when I did watch it, 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.040 I was like, wow, like I feel like a lot 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.240 of people, specifically in the Mormon community and honestly just 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.960 moms in general, could relate to at least one of us. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:15.640 Show. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.320 When you talk about watching yourself back on a reality show. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.920 It is so cringe, is it? It is so incredibly cringe. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:25.680 I just cringe the whole time. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.639 What Okay? So I have had this experience before where 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.080 I have been recorded like something, you know, whatever it is. 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.560 If it's in a video, that's like, say my kids 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.520 are in the video, and then I can hear myself 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.679 in the background and I'm like, I can hear the 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.440 way I say my husband's name, and I'm like, oh, 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:46.719 I didn't think my bubbling resentment was as obvious in 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:48.879 my voice as it is now that I hear it 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.359 when I'm like John sad not like you know, like 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:55.520 and I'll think, ooh, so that's what I sound like. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:56.040 Yeah. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.879 Is it a similar cringe or is it more just like, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.080 oh my gosh, I can't believe I felt so comfortable 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:03.560 being so myself. 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:04.760 Yeah. 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.240 I think it's a little bit of both, because I'll 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.440 watch it I'm like, oh, why did I say that? 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:10.840 Right? 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:15.040 And then sometimes you're just like, what are we even 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.800 talking about. And then other times you're like, I don't 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:19.399 remember it going down. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:23.560 That way, right, but that's what happened, or at least 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.840 may have been edited that way. And if you don't 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:28.520 really remember, you don't know for sure. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.280 Because it's you're so far removed from it. Yeah, Like 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.280 they come out like the season that's coming out this week, 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.480 like that was almost six months ago. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.120 Like that's that's a while ago. A lot happened six 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:41.800 months that's. 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.359 True, you know that's true. But I did expect with 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:45.640 the way you were setting that up that it. 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.560 Was going to be like that came out like years ago, 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:48.520 two years ago. 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:59.280 I was like, I remember what they did yesterday. I 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.920 want to explain into what mom talk is because I 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.480 don't know. I've never seen an episode of Secret Lives 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:06.160