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Speaker 1: Greetings from Fox Sports and FS one. We're live in

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Speaker 1: for making us your choice today one hour from now.

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong. Well, we

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Speaker 1: said before the season, Jmax said Chiefs won't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I said they will. But the dynasty is over and

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Speaker 1: it looks like this is how they end. And you

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Speaker 1: were watching it last night, so trust your eyes. They

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Speaker 1: look a little slower. They don't look like Seattle. They

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Speaker 1: don't look like the Packers. Travis Kelcey another big drop.

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Speaker 1: They can't generate a consistent pass rush. The old line

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Speaker 1: got pushed around. They don't have a running game. Even

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid tie game kind of takes a big swing.

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Speaker 1: Didn't have to gave the Texans points. So this is

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Speaker 1: how dynasties end. They don't fall off a cliff. They

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Speaker 1: dominate for years, go to Super Bowls, win, win Super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: and then they start winning really close games. That was

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Speaker 1: Kansas City last year, and then they start losing all

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Speaker 1: those close games. Oh wait, that's Kansas City this year.

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Speaker 1: So again, you watched the Rams yesterday, you watched Seattle

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Speaker 1: in a blowout win. You watched Green Bay or the Lions.

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Speaker 1: You see you an aggressive and speed and remarkably electric players.

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Speaker 1: I saw some of that from the Texans last night.

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Speaker 1: There's no question watching that game and I thought, uh,

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Speaker 1: warm weather, it's Houston up in the cold weather. Texans

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Speaker 1: with a better team, mora lead athletes. Now, when they

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Speaker 1: pay CJ. Stroud, you know, four hundred million plus, they'll

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Speaker 1: start looking like Kansas City. But I mean again, Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes once again had to be They don't want him

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Speaker 1: to be the leading rusher. That's not what Kansas City wants.

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Speaker 1: But Mahomes had to be the leading rusher. And do

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Speaker 1: you know what the Chiefs are when he is zero

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Speaker 1: and four this year. They don't want him to be

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Speaker 1: the leading rusher. They don't want him to take those

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Speaker 1: hits Travis Kelsey. It's over, Brett Veach. The GM's got

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Speaker 1: to rebuild that D line and O line. They got

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Speaker 1: to hit on their draft picks. But this is what

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Speaker 1: happens when you pay a superstar quarterback and you're drafting

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Speaker 1: of the second, and the bottom of the third, teams

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Speaker 1: catch up. The NFL doesn't want dynasties. They don't need dynasties.

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Speaker 1: Everybody gets huge ratings these days. What they want is

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Speaker 1: you can be dominant for a few years. We'd love

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Speaker 1: you to have a superstar quarterback, but you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: lousy draft picks and you're gonna have to pay them.

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Speaker 3: And the roster is gonna get thin.

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Speaker 1: And when I watch Kansas this is why Brady in

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Speaker 1: New England kept rebooting their you know, their tight ends,

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Speaker 1: very few exceptions. I mean Kansas City this year on

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Speaker 1: But trust your eyes and you can call Kansas City

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Speaker 1: That offensive line is a mile from the Rams, it's

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Speaker 1: Are they legit? So they go to Philadelphia and win?

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Speaker 1: Nobody's doing that against the Packers, nobody this year. Then

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Speaker 3: And again, Caleb.

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Speaker 1: Williams isn't gonna look as polished as Jordan loves of course,

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Speaker 3: Green Bay is a Super Bowl team.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is a polished, refined, brilliantly coached, execution, efficiency,

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Speaker 3: Everything about green.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, when it comes down to the wire like that

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Speaker 5: But give a lot of credit to green Bay. They

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Speaker 1: I think Chicago, there's an argument the Bears were the

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Speaker 1: all losses are awful. Some of them are a barometer

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Speaker 1: of where you are. If I'm Chicago busting' home, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: we can play with anybody, because if you can play

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Speaker 1: I mean, got Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City don't look as dominant.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people don't buy New England.

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Speaker 1: So that's about as good a loss as you can have.

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Speaker 1: lot of times, jamch we talk about this. This has

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bears kept coming back.

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Speaker 1: And with that, Urban Meyer on a feisty college Football

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Speaker 8: talked us through the two minute drill against Penn State

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Speaker 8: like a coach would, like a coordinator would. I've gotten

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Speaker 8: to know the guy.

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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 8: Here's what I think about him as an NFL prespect

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Speaker 8: got changed. I made a comment before this game he

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Speaker 8: should come back. I don't think so. Now. I saw

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Speaker 8: against a team that had better talent than Indiana, and

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Speaker 8: he won that fricking game. He made a couple of

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Speaker 8: ball placements, his accuracy, the ball out quick. You know,

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Speaker 8: he ran when he had to. He got hit right

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Speaker 8: square in the face at the second first play of

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Speaker 8: the game and touffed his way through it. So I

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Speaker 8: think the NFL ready, I didn't say that before this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Oklahoma and Alabama are going to play. I

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Speaker 1: think I like Alabama, but I don't feel good about it.

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Speaker 1: I think Miami can beat Texas A and m I

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Speaker 1: do because I think Miami's D line is like totally legit.

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Speaker 1: Do you see if I as I put this up

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Speaker 1: to the college football Playoff, I I don't think Miami

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Speaker 1: beating Texas A and m is an upset. I think

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Speaker 1: they got the four seeds right. If you had the

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Speaker 1: gas based on this, who plays in the Natty Urban?

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Speaker 1: What would be your guest today?

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Speaker 8: I'm saying Georgia against Ohio State in the semi, and

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Speaker 8: then I'm saying Oregon and I you and the semi,

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Speaker 8: and then I'm those are the final four, and then

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I think it's going to be incredible

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Speaker 8: football at the end of the season. I like the brackets.

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Speaker 8: I like the way they did it. You know, I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna say two words about Miami Carson Becky. Yeah, if

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Speaker 8: he takes care of the ball, they can win. If

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Speaker 8: he doesn't have to lose. That's that's time tested. That's

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Speaker 8: at Georgia, that's now at Miami. If he takes care

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Speaker 8: of the ball, You're right, that's That's the only concern

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Speaker 8: I have in that one.

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Speaker 1: You're getting inducted into the Florida Ring of Honor, You're

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Speaker 1: getting inducted tomorrow into the College Football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: and you didn't get a you didn't get a coach

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Speaker 1: during nil or you didn't get a coach during you

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Speaker 1: know the playoff.

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Speaker 3: I said this about Kurt Signetti. I said it used

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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 1: I always felt college football was a young man's game

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Speaker 1: for a coach because you're on the road two in

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Speaker 1: a day's a year. But the NIL you can sit

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Speaker 1: in your office and write. You know, you can just

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Speaker 1: be a GM. You don't have to get in a plane,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to do all that recruiting. Mark Marcus

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Speaker 1: Freeman's a young guy, good looking, young He's built for

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Speaker 1: college football. He's going to get an NFL offer. With

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Speaker 1: all the movement and the weirdness of college football, a

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Speaker 1: sport we love. If you were Marcus Freeman, you just

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Speaker 1: got told you're not in which I think was a

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Speaker 1: right move by the committee. Would you stay in college

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Speaker 1: football or would you take a New York Giants level job?

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Speaker 1: What do you do if you're Marcus Freeman? Because that

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Speaker 1: is going to be a story the second the NFL

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Speaker 1: season ends.

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Speaker 8: Marcus is my friend, he got asked me. But I

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Speaker 8: would say you stay in college. One. You have controllables

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Speaker 8: in college. As a head coach in the NFL, I

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Speaker 8: found you just there's so many uncontrollables that you you

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Speaker 8: don't have. You know, whether it's the GM, the you know,

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Speaker 8: just so you have an owner, you have all kinds

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Speaker 8: of things. In college, it's you and Marcus. Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 8: at Notre Dame, his great support from the AD and

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Speaker 8: the president, et cetera, et cetera. But Marcus Freeman, as

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Speaker 8: I found out, you give up so much when you

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Speaker 8: take that next step, and so much that's out.

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Speaker 3: Of your control.

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Speaker 8: And plus you're going to lose in the NFL. It's

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Speaker 8: it's built, And I'm not sure Marcus the Marcus I

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Speaker 8: know he can't take losing like I can't take losing.

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Speaker 8: You're gonna win a Notre Dame? Now, are you gonna

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Speaker 8: win a national title? I don't know, But look at

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Speaker 8: their schedule. He's going to play a season every year

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Speaker 8: where he's favored in the least nine or ten of

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Speaker 8: those games, maybe more. That doesn't happen at the next level.

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Speaker 1: What did you make with USC being number one and recruiting?

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Speaker 1: In fact number one was SC A lot of people

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Speaker 1: thought Oregon was two Marcus Freeman and great recruiters up there,

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Speaker 1: so was Bama. But what did you make of USC?

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like it means something?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely? And Lincoln Raley should be a great recruiter. I've

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Speaker 8: always said this. You've heard me say this many minutes.

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Speaker 8: The one team I do not understand in college sports

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Speaker 8: is University of Southern California. Why are they not Ohio State?

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Speaker 8: Why are they not Alabama? I don't I've always looked

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Speaker 8: at that program as the top three job. You have

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Speaker 8: everything right there. I'm looking on the TV right now

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Speaker 8: on beautiful uniforms, the history, the coliseum, I mean, and

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Speaker 8: more importantly, you get in a car and drive for

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Speaker 8: three hours and you can fill a recruiting class. And

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Speaker 8: plus you drive it. Will you walk into every high school?

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Speaker 8: We're in that trojan or where are those pillars? Everybody

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Speaker 8: knows who you are? So I congratulations. I'm glad they

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Speaker 8: stuck with Lincoln Raley. I'm a Lincoln I like the guy.

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Speaker 8: I think he's an excellent coach. I think he just

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Speaker 8: had to get real serious about recruited.

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Speaker 3: And maybe he did.

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Speaker 8: Maybe it wasn't him, Maybe it's USC that says enough

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Speaker 8: of this stuff, let's get going. And I almost cussed.

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Speaker 8: So I'm glad I did it. But yeah, enough, enough's enough.

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Speaker 8: It's time for USC to be in the final for

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Speaker 8: sure what we're talking about them not in the playoffs, Colin,

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Speaker 8: I don't usc. It's time to get going and this

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Speaker 8: is a good step.

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Speaker 1: Let's go one more question. I want to going back

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Speaker 1: to Ohio State Indiana. Now. I thought it was the

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Speaker 1: biggest game in the history of Indiana football, and they

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Speaker 1: crushed and they deserve all of it. I said before

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Speaker 1: the game, I said, I think Ohio State will be

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Speaker 1: fired up. But I mean, we just beat Michigan, we

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Speaker 1: got the playoff, we're national champions.

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Speaker 3: I may hide a little of my playbook.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a harder game for Ohio State

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Speaker 1: to coach in Indiana. Does that make any sense?

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Speaker 8: Oh, it makes a lot of sense. And I think

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Speaker 8: just looking there's nothing like battle scars. I used to

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Speaker 8: tell my team this all the time, going on the

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Speaker 8: road Anton Stadium. That's a scar win or lose your scarred,

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Speaker 8: which means you've been matured. You've been having to go

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Speaker 8: to Penn State, a team that had better players than you,

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Speaker 8: not by much now, but they did, and you have

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Speaker 8: to go drive it eighty was it eighty three yards?

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Speaker 8: After that sack? To go win with zero timeouts? Your

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Speaker 8: scarreds Ohio State winning that game without any stars, and

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Speaker 8: they went on the road to Washington. They beat a

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Speaker 8: Texas team that wasn't a very good when they played them.

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Speaker 8: Now they did what they had to do. But keep

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Speaker 8: this in mind. The quarterback Julian saying, through twenty five

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Speaker 8: passes in the fourth quarter all year, that means there's

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Speaker 8: no scars. Yeah, now he's got a couple of scars

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Speaker 8: on his face, or a couple of scars that team does.

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Speaker 8: They'll be better because of it. You just wish they

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Speaker 8: didn't lose a ring because of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I still have the Buckeyes winning the Natty as a congratulations.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I've been to Bolagio before. They got

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Speaker 1: a place called Spagos that has an unbelievable locks caviar pizza.

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Speaker 1: I didn't buy it, somebody bought it for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: just telling if you're wandering by, you might just want

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Speaker 1: to sneak in there and order it. Congratulations to you, coach,

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Speaker 1: You know how much I think you, And congrats again.

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Speaker 4: Well you're a.

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Speaker 3: Friend, Paulin.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to name drop you today out that played

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Speaker 8: at that spot.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll get your glass of lemonade for free.

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Speaker 1: It won't get you the pizza I talked about.

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Speaker 3: You're the best call. Thank you all right, Urban Meyer