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Speaker 3: This is kind of a fun one. We're going to

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Speaker 3: golf digest dot com, they have two very long travelogues

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Speaker 1: And again the sun came out as we were getting

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Speaker 1: to the seventh green, eight t ninth hole, uh, you know,

433
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: and we get all the way to the to the

434
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Speaker 1: top of the of the green and there and again

435
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: it's just like lit up. And then we go and

436
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: we have a pint on the back porch and and

437
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 1: we had a really sweet conversation that didn't make the

438
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Speaker 1: final edit. Uh, we got we got a little bit

439
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: of we've got the visual visuals of it, but it was,

440
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a neat opportunity to

441
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Speaker 1: sort of actually buy him another pint and thank him

442
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: for all that he you know he left behind there

443
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: in the in what has become the front nine of

444
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Speaker 1: Port Stewart. So here's our conversation on that back porch.

445
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Speaker 6: He takes some joy and kind of seeing people take

446
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 6: off and going in.

447
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 7: When you created this, don't think about it, Natol not

448
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 7: it must have been really No, No, it's it's there.

449
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 7: It'll be there hopefully. So I have had my pleasure

450
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 7: right of being able to do it. It's a good

451
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 7: privilege and it's not something that happens to anybody very often.

452
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: It's a nice gift.

453
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Speaker 6: The ten year old DEAs that roamed those dudes has

454
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 6: given this, this, this town, quite a gift for for

455
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 6: many years to come and many people like me who

456
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 6: fly from all over the world to come experience raw

457
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 6: links land like this.

458
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 1: It's it exceeds experience.

459
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 7: Well, it's always nice to know that you enjoy it.

460
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 7: That's the big thing, enjoying it. If it wasn't enjoyable,

461
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 7: it wouldn't be worth coming to.

462
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 6: All good stories come back to the beginning. And you

463
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 6: said it from the beginning, when you set out to

464
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 6: do this, it was to make it enjoyable. Yes, I

465
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 6: enjoyed it. Yeah, good, your good.

466
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Speaker 3: Health that's awesome. I mean, you gotta love these characters.

467
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: You know, in this in this modern era where gil

468
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 3: Haunts gets seemingly every golf course in the world he's

469
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: working on find these locals and you know, he evokes

470
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: like a George Cromb or a Jack Neville, you know,

471
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 3: the guys who did like one golf course in their

472
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: life and they were they were they were pretty memorable.

473
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: Well it's it's it's not unlike what like John Ashworth

474
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: was doing at Godill Park, you know, with with his

475
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: with his crew out there, they're changing hole by hole.

476
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: It's not unlike what the locals did at Critch Island, Uh,

477
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, nestled between there and important New and and

478
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: uh and Saint Patrick's which is gil Hanson Tom Doak

479
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: and then you got, like the locals out there were

480
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: shovels creating the Crisch Island experience. This this nine hole

481
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: homegrown golf experience that if you pass by and don't

482
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: play it, you're you're just you're you're you know, you're

483
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: missing the boat. Those those stories that you stumble upon

484
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: in places like you know, Ireland and Northern Ireland are

485
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: just that's a big part of a big part of

486
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: the uniqueness and fun.

487
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 3: I know a place that's very special to you that's

488
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: not on the radar screen of every American you know,

489
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: Vagabond Golfer is art Glass, which which is up in

490
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 3: the North as well, and it's to my great regret,

491
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: I had a tea time there during the week of

492
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: the Open at Port Rush, and I can't remember what happened.

493
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: I can't remember her name, but anyway, no that's not true,

494
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: but I couldn't make the tea time and it still

495
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: haunts me. I mean, I'll get there someday, but tell

496
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: people what's so special about our glass and its place

497
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: in your golfing life? You know?

498
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 8: It was?

499
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: It was that Irish Open and I had my I

500
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: got to play in that pro am actually with Ricky Fowler,

501
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: Ap McCoy one of the great jockeys in the history

502
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: of horse racing, certainly as it relates to Ireland, and

503
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: Patty Kilty who from Northern Ireland is a comedian and

504
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: now a talk show host up there. Who's whose remains

505
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: a friend and got to play in that tournament. I

506
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: was there with Tim Rose a Fort and Todd Curran.

507
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: My best buddy was on the bag and reporting live

508
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: for you know, Morning Drive from the Irish Open and

509
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: and you know, Marty Carr, dear friend, and we're running around,

510
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: we're at the sleeve Donnard Van Morrison and you get

511
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: Rory's hosting. It's just really good energy. Weather wasn't great

512
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: as as Kevin alluded to, but it didn't really matter.

513
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: It was like it was just one big giant jamboree

514
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: and festival of fun. And and you know, we had

515
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: stayed out really late one night and Marty says, hey,

516
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, we're going over to our glass. You've got

517
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: to see this place. I'm like, I don't this doesn't know.

518
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't you, I can't feel my face.

519
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Let alone, like get up and go play golf, you

520
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? No, no, no, you got to

521
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: do it. Get in the car and he and his

522
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: best friend from sort of you know, going way back

523
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: and me and my best friend piling cars and you know,

524
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: again it's also about like the discovery of all discovery

525
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: of it all.

526
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: Right.

527
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: You come in, you're in pain, you're hungover, you know,

528
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: your reek of like God only knows what you consume

529
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: the night before, and it's coming out of your pores,

530
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, and you show up and you rock up

531
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: into this parking lot and it's a castle of a

532
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: clubhouse that goes back into the fourteen hundreds, you know,

533
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: and it's about thirty minutes away from Royal County down.

534
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: It felt like three hours. Like it was like, oh

535
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: my god, the twisting turns like, oh God, I just

536
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: want to just want to curl up in a bed

537
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: and show up on the first team in that Irish

538
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: fresh you know, Irish breeze hit you and it kind

539
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: of wakes you up. And Paul Vaughn, the pro there

540
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: who was there then is still there, he and his

541
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: wife there, and Karen Fitzsimon's and meeting some of the locals,

542
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, just this warm embrace, and you know, you

543
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: get up over that first you know, first hole, and

544
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: you get on the first green and the second t

545
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: and you're looking at this little part three that looks

546
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: like it looks something like almost reverse of the approach

547
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: of the eighth fairway at Pebble Beach, right if the

548
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: eighth green was elevated and you were standing on that

549
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: fairway hitting that shot to an elevated green, or kind

550
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: of like you know, to a more elevated green and

551
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: you saw that extreme you know, Carrie and some of

552
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: the coastline, you'd be like, that's the second hole of

553
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: our glass. That's how our glass opens. And then it

554
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: continues to run along that coastline. Then it cuts in

555
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: lit it comes back down along the coastline. I mean,

556
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: I was like, what in what what is this? You know,

557
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: it just again, it just like it just grabs you

558
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: and it holds onto your pant leg like you know,

559
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: like a like a little terrier, would you know if

560
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: you're trying to steal the mail. I mean, this is

561
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: just relentlessly incredible. And I've now been back, you know,

562
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: several times since they continue to put you know, now

563
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: they are on the radar for a lot more Americans.

564
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot more people that go to Royal County

565
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: down that then go to Ardglass or Port Rushport, Stewart

566
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: Ardglass Castle. You know that that becomes kind of this

567
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: northern itinerary. And if you miss art Glass, you're crazy.

568
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: And you know Paul Vaughn and Karen fitz Simon's and

569
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: you'll see at the end of this of this episode,

570
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, FITZI gets really eleven time club champion. He's

571
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: his his family goes back eight generations to this this club,

572
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: this land. There they went from hundreds of North American

573
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: visitors to now thousands, upwards of seven thousand visitors now

574
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: from North American who are frequenting Our Glass per year.

575
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: They're taking that money and they're putting it back into

576
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: the golf course. They continue to enhance the experience and

577
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: the the agronomy. And by the way, the food at

578
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Our Glass is some of the best food you'll have

579
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: at any one of those clubhouses. Paul Vaughn is smart

580
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: enough to give, you know, the food and beverage to

581
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: a to a you know, a local couple who's really

582
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: taking it on. And damn, I'm telling you, you know,

583
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: the pints and the food there at Ard Glass are great.

584
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: And here's FITZI on sort of how and why this

585
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: this course, this land, this experience kind of separates itself,

586
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: you know. And again I always say there's magic in

587
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: the land that is Goat Hill, Goat Hill Park. I

588
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: will tell you right now there's magic in the land

589
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: that is Art Glass.

590
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 8: I think it's just peace in your heart, good friends

591
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 8: and all the good things that you aspire to in life.

592
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 8: I think we just kind of naturally we have a

593
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 8: lot of that here. People are very closely knit. That's

594
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 8: a very special community and it's just lovely to be

595
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 8: part of. You read a good book, what do you

596
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 8: want to do is you read the last line of

597
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 8: the book, is you want to just phone your friends

598
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 8: say I've got a great book for you somewhere where

599
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 8: I that I love and I've spent my whole life

600
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 8: here and I just can't wait to share it.

601
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: And you see how much I come alive when you

602
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: have guys who come here.

603
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 8: It's not put on, it's just I just want to

604
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 8: show you what we have here, and like you see

605
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 8: how special it is there.

606
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: There are places that just it's like in alchemy, you know,

607
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: it's the experience is greater than just the golf course.

608
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: And it's hard to explain why. Like, so it's cool

609
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: that you have that. Are you an honorary member there? Now?

610
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 3: Did they do that?

611
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: They did? They surprised me at one of the PGA

612
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: merchandise shows And that's so cool. And and you know,

613
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I've never really done anything in terms of playing in

614
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: like the member member or you know, the the you

615
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: know like the club champions are like that would be

616
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: a real use dream uh of being able to do that,

617
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, by the way, I've you know the mole

618
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Hall family. The father there runs a bait shop right

619
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: there in town in our glass and you know, don't

620
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: blink them. The town is not that big. It's an

621
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: old little fishing village and it goes back centuries. And

622
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: the mole Hall brothers have recently realized they have some

623
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: they have Greek root roots and and you you'll you'll

624
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: see it if you watch this show William Mohall. Uh,

625
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: these these guys, this, these three brothers that all worked

626
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: on Game of Thrones, and not unlike a lot of

627
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: people in Northern Ireland, by the way, in and around

628
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: Belfast greatly benefited from Game of Thrones and the Titanic

629
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: Belfast experience, which I'll get to in a second. But

630
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: the mole Hall brothers were the original owners of what

631
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: became two of the dire wolves used in Game of Thrones,

632
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: originally as real dogs and wolves, and then eventually they

633
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: they kind of modified those dogs and made them bigger

634
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: and kind of computerized. But they had the original dogs

635
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: and I got to meet them on one of my

636
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: trips to our Glass became friends with them. I have,

637
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, many pints with them, and many stories and

638
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: many trips and many meals and William Whall. These these

639
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: guys know their history, especially as it relates to in

640
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: and around Ardglass, which is where you'll find the grave

641
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: of Saint Patrick. Saint Patrick, the patron Saint of Ireland,

642
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: is you know, buried right there, just a few miles

643
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: away from Ardglass. And if if you don't go and

644
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: visit this grave again, you're making a mistake. I learned

645
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: a lot about Saint Patrick. Uh and not just that

646
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: we you know, celebrate his day in March, but he

647
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: he here's William and dropping some serious history and perspective

648
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Speaker 1: on the patriot Saint of Ireland.

649
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 9: From here we can see the Moor mountains, which are

650
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 9: you know, famous, But they've also got the main mountain

651
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 9: which is called Sleeve Donnard and it's the highest mountain

652
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 9: in the north here, and it's named after a guy

653
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 9: who was a hermit. He lived in a cave up there,

654
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 9: and Saint Patrick made him a saint because he gave

655
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Speaker 9: him a very important job. His job is that whenever

656
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 9: the end of the world happens and all the Christians

657
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 9: are lifted up into heaven. He has to come from

658
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 9: there to here to wake up Saint Patrick, so that

659
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 9: whenever St Patrick's gone up into heaven, he takes all

660
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 9: the Irish with him, because no matter if you're good

661
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 9: or bad, as long as you're Irish, you're getting into heaven.

662
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 6: That's great news.

663
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: It's really good news. Actually, so yeah, it takes away

664
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: a lot of my anxiety.

665
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: Got irish.

666
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: And this is it.

667
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 9: This is it.

668
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: This is where he's buried. He's buried in here with

669
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: some bridges and signt column.

670
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: This is an incredibly powerful if.

671
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 9: You think about the amount of Irish across the world,

672
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 9: you know, would you say earlier seventy million people.

673
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: Who claim ance history.

674
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, and each one of them celebrates Sin Patrick's day

675
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 9: in some way in every corner of the world, especially

676
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 9: America and Australia and places like that in England. And

677
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 9: the man they're celebrating is right here in front of us.

678
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 9: To become a saint, you have to you have to

679
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 9: make miracles. One of his miracles was that he chased

680
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 9: all the snakes out of Ireland. Ireland has no snakes

681
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 9: in it, England has snakes but Ireland doesn't. And they

682
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 9: say that, you know, he managed to do that, but

683
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 9: they reckon. It's a metaphor for him actually chasing all

684
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 9: the Pagans out of Ireland, you know, and making everyone

685
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 9: Christian st. Patrick also like kind of helped along in

686
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 9: the lines of banishing slavery as well in Ireland like

687
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 9: two thy six hundred years ago or something like that.

688
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: So he was early adopter of equality.

689
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

690
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. I mean you don't even really think

691
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: that there is an actual Saint Patrick, you know, it's

692
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: just one of those things you take for granted. It's

693
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: all around you, like, oh, there was actually some dude

694
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 3: named Patrick who became a saint who played this this

695
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: role and it's like, oh interesting, Yeah, that's that's funny.

696
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: It was Welsh, by the way, like of all things,

697
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: as you just learned, I mean, you know, I mean yeah,

698
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean the we're storytellers right at the core of

699
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: what we are and who we are. We we love

700
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: a good story. And like I've always said, you go

701
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: to Ireland, the island of Ireland, you run into the

702
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: Irish if you like stories, you know, Settle in. Buckle up,

703
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: charge the glass, pour a pint and listen. You know,

704
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: the music, the poems, the stories, the jokes, the crack

705
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: as they say, is it just just does not stop.

706
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: And again that's part of I think, why not only

707
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: because I have roots in County Clare and that's that's

708
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: really meaningful to not only me but my family. But

709
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: then it's just all this this this history and the

710
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: stories and the storytelling and the passion that they have

711
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: for their own stories. You know that the the energy

712
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: around who they are and what they are and why

713
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: it all matters. You know, it's like if you if

714
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: it's not hitting you or resonating with you, just you

715
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: got to go check your pulse because it's possible you're dead.

716
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's there's some golf journeys that you

717
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: enjoy in spite of the people. Like if you went

718
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: out and did like all the great golf clubs of

719
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: Long Island, like the courses are amazing, you have to

720
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: you have to deal with the New Yorkers. But in

721
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: Ireland that the people elevate the experience, just the interactions

722
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: you have, the fun of it all that it really

723
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: becomes part of the whole trip. And the more open

724
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: you are to it, as you're saying, like, it'll get

725
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: sucked into a lot of a lot of fun things.

726
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: Uh that I think when people watch these these these

727
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 3: two shows you put together, it brings out to life.

728
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: I mean, just the the characters and it's just so

729
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: fun to listen to them talk that. Not only that

730
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: the lilt and the accent is wonderful, but it's just

731
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: an oral culture like that's that's a big part of

732
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: their their heritage, right is it just gets passed down.

733
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: And so that's really cool.

734
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: Speaking of heritage and passing down. And little guy who

735
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: had experience in Ireland, I mean, he's I'm sending him

736
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: to bed. But Bannon, speaking of the microphone, what do

737
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: you think of Ireland? We lit right, we go to bed, now,

738
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: you go to bed now?

739
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 3: All right? That's probably a good cue for us to

740
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 3: to get to our our list of our ten favorite

741
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: course in Ireland. And these are just the ones we've played.

742
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: So I'm missing a few. I've never been to the island.

743
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: That's that's one that's at the top of my bucket list.

744
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: And now there's there's you know you you've brought this

745
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: out in some some of your other Ireland reporting. I

746
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: mean there's there's new stuff happening at Saint Patrick's and

747
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: all there's you know, Hogshead like you name it, like

748
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: you think of like the Manhattan Skyline. It feels like

749
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: it's been there forever, it's never going to change, but

750
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: in fact there's always a new building, go go. But

751
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: it's kind of the same thing in Ireland. Like the

752
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: new golf stuff happened constantly there right now, which is

753
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 3: really exciting.

754
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to believe. You know. I haven't

755
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: played Enniscrown. I've walked part of parts of County laut

756
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: Ball Tray, which was amazing. That that's not far from

757
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: Dublin by the way, you know what I mean, Like you,

758
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: that's an easy get from Dublin, so I should say that,

759
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: I you know, as we're starting into our list that

760
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: you know again I haven't played those.

761
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I haven't been to Carn, which is you

762
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: know our friend John Gerdetty, great Si Rider. I mean,

763
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: he's sort of the patron saint of Carn like that.

764
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: That's been on my list for a long time. So

765
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: it's kind of fun to think you and I have

766
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: been lucky and you more than me to get to

767
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: take a lot of trips and play a lot of

768
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 3: these courses. But there's still more to look forward to,

769
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: which is amazing.

770
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not on my list, but you know, like

771
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: old Head, it's not in my top ten because you know,

772
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: I've always said it's more like Golden Tea golf. It's

773
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: so extreme and and you know, I don't know why

774
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: it's wild. It doesn't make my top ten because but

775
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: I say, like, you've got to go play it, You've

776
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: got to go experience it, and if you're lucky enough

777
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: to catch it on a day where it's not windy

778
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: and rainy, it's gonna be one of the most epic

779
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: experiences you've ever had on a golf course. It doesn't

780
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: it ever. Actually, it just feels a little too extreme,

781
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: like like I said, Golden Tea.

782
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: Or Yeah, it's worth doing though if you go that far.

783
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of how I feel about Cape

784
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: Kidnappers when we were there in New Zealand. Like the

785
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: course itself, it didn't blow me away. There's there's some

786
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: wonky holes and inland holes are not amazing. There's some

787
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: tom dope greens, but if you're there. You got to

788
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: do it because the views, the some of the some

789
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: of the shots are very memorable. So I like Oldhead

790
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: a little more like Cape Kidnappers, but is.

791
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: Very much so if you go that far way better.

792
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: Than you go that far. You just got to do it.

793
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: But all right, all start. Number ten for me is

794
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: tre Lee, which is a little bit of a polarizing course.

795
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: You know, it's Arnie Palmer is the designer, and supposedly,

796
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: although when the story I've heard is when the course

797
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: opened he shows up to cut the ceremonial tape that

798
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 3: to tell him where the first he was, because Arnold

799
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: was not not familiar with the terrain. But anyway, it's

800
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: a possibly apocryphal.

801
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: But which leads us to the whole conversation on the

802
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: k Club and that whole thing in the Irish Open

803
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: in three out of five years hosting the Irish Open

804
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: and Arnold Palmer k Club as though that's some sort

805
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: of representation of Irish golf. And even then they say, oh,

806
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: Parkland is mostly okay, I get it. I like Parkland

807
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: golf courses. I like a dear manor I like Portumna,

808
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think royal Belfast is an epic part.

809
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: But again I don't want to go down that whole

810
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. But like come on, like Arnold Palmer Cake Club,

811
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: like Irish Open.

812
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: No I reject though it is it Royal County down

813
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: next year so that anyway, but truly has some incredible terrain.

814
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: And you talk about the front nine at ports through

815
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: at the back nine, it truly is pretty spectacular. That's

816
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: what I have at number ten, what about you?

817
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they've made a lot of tweaks and improvements

818
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: to the Front nine too. Truly is on my list.

819
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: It's number nine on my list. At number ten, I

820
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: have Our's I put it in there as as and

821
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: again they continue to make that course better and there's

822
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: a lot of very memorable holes and uh and and

823
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: this is my list, and sentimentally, you know KRN doesn't

824
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: make my list. I love Jerey Maguire, I love that story.

825
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: I love the extreme dunes, I love that adventure. But

826
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I just I love all these other courses more. And

827
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: Our Glass is one that just speaks to me and

828
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: my heart, my soul, and it's on my list and

829
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: it's number ten.

830
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: That's cool. I love it. I mean number nine is

831
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: for you, is truly for me. It's bal Tray, which

832
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: is just we talked about him and I go, it's

833
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: just a really cool place. I mean just there's something

834
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: about the land and the layout and the way it flows.

835
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 3: I'm just a big fan, like, I think that place

836
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: is special.

837
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I need to I need again. We watched

838
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: Hugh Foley play there. He was representing Royal Dublin in

839
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: the Senior Cup and he dismantled his opponent and kind

840
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: of ended it pretty early, and John Ashworth and I

841
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: were out there watching him and I was like, oh

842
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: my god, look at this golf course. How good is this?

843
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: You know? I you know, And it's right next to

844
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: Seapoint that makes it good.

845
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 6: You know.

846
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: Seapoint has recently been sort of bought by car Golf

847
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: and they've put some money and resources into it, and

848
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: so Seapoint Baltray basically back up to each other, which

849
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: would make a great thirty six holes. But I need

850
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: to play I need to play ball Tray.

851
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you have at eight eight?

852
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: I have a dear manor again Parkland, you know, and

853
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: Tom Fozzio. So I know that's not necessarily a true

854
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: representation of Irish golf, of though you know, Fazio had

855
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: a lot to do with Waterville, which is also on

856
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: my list. But I love dere Manor, I love the

857
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: golf course, and I love the whole experience driving through. J. P.

858
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: Mcmahonus obviously bought it and put you know, several hundreds

859
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars of resources into redoing that whole facility.

860
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: The And you know, my wife used to rank a

861
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: resort and an experience on you know, sort of one

862
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: to see island, and once after she went to a

863
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: Dare she's like, from now on, everything's judged, as you know,

864
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: from one, you know, on a scale of one to

865
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: a Dare Manor. Where does it fall? Because a Dare

866
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: Manor is is the top of the top of the

867
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: top cool that golf course walking around playing there and

868
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, there's not a it's it's a bit Augusta

869
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: like in terms of its perfection and how it's manicured.

870
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: And you're up against the castle there in the home stretch.

871
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: It's going to make a hell of a venue for

872
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: a Ryder Cup in that, you know, getting towards the fifteen, sixteen,

873
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen and that Castle Manor backdrop is going

874
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: to be spectacular.

875
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 3: I love that Number eight for me is Port Stewart,

876
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 3: which we touched on a lot already, so we don't

877
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: have to go into any more detail. But it's the

878
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 3: fact that it's so close to so many other great

879
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: golf courses. It's a it's a must play. Yeah, what

880
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: do you have at seven?

881
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: I have Saint Patrick's And again we did, you know,

882
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: we featured it in in our North Northwest Adventure I

883
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: think now and two and a half years years ago,

884
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: and so the story goes, you know, that was really

885
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: during COVID. Tom Dope didn't spend a lot of time there,

886
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: if you know, if at all. And Angela Moser was

887
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, sort of a big part of that project

888
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: and ultimately landed her I think, you know, sort of

889
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: the lead associate on what is now becoming Pineer's Number ten.

890
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: I mean, she's obviously incredibly talented, uh you know, in

891
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: that land and what they had to work with was

892
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: that originally was going to be two eighteen hole Jack

893
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: Nicholas courses and it kind of got stopped down midway

894
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: through and the Casey family and you know, brought in

895
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: Dope and his team, and I'm telling you right now,

896
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: they made eighteen incredible golf holes and it is like

897
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: big dunes, big fun and they run you know, the

898
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: Dope greens at nine on the stimps. So you know,

899
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: even if there is kind of like that that that

900
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: sort of wild undulation, it's very fair and playable there.

901
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, you know it could

902
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: even kind of the more I play, it could move

903
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: up my list. That is that is one special experience

904
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: and becomes a real pull and magnet to that North

905
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: north you know, north Northwest experience that that a lot

906
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: of people are going to be seeking out as that

907
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: becomes the value play here and where you can still

908
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: kind of get some tea times.

909
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: Maybe that's cool. I love it. Number seven for me

910
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: is Port Marnik, which I think it was kind of

911
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 3: the Irish Carnoustie. You know, it's just an incredible championship test.

912
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: It's very tactical, does not have the amazing dunes. It's

913
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 3: not it's not as dramatic a sight as some of these,

914
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: but it's just it's just just such a challenge. And

915
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: I just remember a lot of thought went into how

916
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: you played that golf course. There's there's it's just a

917
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: very well laid out, thought provoking kind of course and

918
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: and basically right in the heart of Dublin. It feels like,

919
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: I mean, you can stumble out of James Joyce's you know,

920
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: boyhood home and and they're here on the first tea

921
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: at Port Marnick. So that's number seven for me. What

922
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: do you got?

923
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: I got Port Marnic at at number six actually so

924
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: uh you know, and again featured in our in our

925
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: Dublin uh travelog and journey and you know, as you know,

926
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: they've recently started allowing female members, not unlike what Mirfield

927
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: did in Scotland. Elaine McBride is the new general manager,

928
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: the manager of that of that club. She is Scottish

929
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: and she you know, this, this evolution of this you know,

930
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: storied and you know traditional club is going to get

931
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: a lot more eyeballs on. It had a Walker Cup

932
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one, I believe, which Phil Mickelson and

933
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: David Duvall and those guys played on that on that team.

934
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: And you know, the talk is that Port Marnic at

935
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: some point could get an Open championship and bring it

936
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: to the Republic of Ireland, which would be in Dublin,

937
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: and which would be that'd be bonkers.

938
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: That'd be sweet. Yeah, it's it's it's worthy. There's no question.

939
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: Number six for me is Dunebag just one of the wildest,

940
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: wooliest sights in golf. And I haven't you know you

941
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 3: remember you and I were there at like the turn

942
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: of the century, hadn't even officially opened yet, and I

943
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: know it's caught through some evolutions. I'd like to see

944
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 3: it again, but I loved the original layout. I mean

945
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: it was it was crazy and extreme and I that

946
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: turns me on, Like it was just so much fun

947
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: and so cool.

948
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, then if that turns you on, you'd love then

949
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: then carn would be on your list for sure. I know,

950
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: for that wild and wooly and raw links experience. You know,

951
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: what we saw in that original version of Dounebeg was

952
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: virtually unplayable. I mean that was that was Greg Norman

953
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: at his at his finest, which is ultimately his worst,

954
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: where it's like what, there's no no one, any anybody

955
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: north of a scratch handicap can't finish this golf course.

956
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: You're never going to have enough golf balls.

957
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Greg Norman couldn't screw that side up. I

958
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: mean it's so good.

959
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: But you know, they have made a lot of changes

960
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: to it. I did get to play it recently and

961
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: I got to get of, you know, a lot of

962
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: compliments to that team there. There's a good energy there.

963
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: I you know, obviously politics aside and all the you know,

964
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: the bullshit a re associated with you know, all that

965
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: goes along with Dunebeg. I you know, the people, the

966
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: amount of people they employ there, the condition of that

967
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: golf course, that experience, that land, which is about three

968
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards away from my great great grandfather's farm eighteen

969
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: acres that he farmed. Ironically enough, essentially Dunebeg is ultimately

970
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: the Bowlin family neighbor. So yeah, definitely, definitely, you know,

971
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: respect for that, for that golf course.

972
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 3: Okay, where are you on your list? What do you

973
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 3: have for six?

974
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: That was Port Marnic for me? And number five They

975
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: talk about Dunes is bally Bunyan like bally Bunyan to me,

976
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: and I think they've made some tweaks to eighteen. I

977
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: was always a little put off by that finish, but

978
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, the more you the more you play, and

979
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: the more you experience. You know, again, Cyprus Point doesn't

980
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: have a great eighteenth hole, you know, the Hinch doesn't

981
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: have a great you know, there's you know how some

982
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: of these courses sort of start and end. You kind

983
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: of kind of like give them a little pass, you know.

984
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: It's part of part of the way you get in

985
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: and out of out of these dunes. Right. And yeah,

986
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: bally Bunyon is a nice comfortable number five on my list.

987
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have Vally Bunyon. Three. Five for me is Waterville,

988
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: Uh oh wow. Just such a cool course, such an

989
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 3: epic setting that's down in the Southwest. You know, there's

990
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: a lot of great golf down there. But I just

991
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: and again you know, this is not it's not science.

992
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: Like when we played Waterville and the sun was setting,

993
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: I think it was a last it was a last

994
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: course on our trip, you know, and just hitting a

995
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: bunch of great shots coming in. Like you can romanticize

996
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: these things that that's part of it. I mean, we

997
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: all have emotional reactions to golf courses. You can't oh yeah,

998
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: fully explain. And so I just think Waterville is a special.

999
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: Totally In fact, it's uh, I'll reveal where it is

1000
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: on my list a little bit. Number four for me

1001
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: is port Rush and again you know they've they've tweaked

1002
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: a couple of holes there and they've only made that better.

1003
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: And I think it's obviously got it's it's due, and

1004
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: you know host of the opening fifty one and then

1005
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: you know again in twenty nineteen, right, they're going to

1006
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: get it again in twenty twenty five. So I mean,

1007
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: I got nothing but respect and love for you know,

1008
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: there's there's there's a deftness about I think the port

1009
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: Rush experience, not unlike I think the old course where

1010
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: it kind of sneaks up on you. You know, you go

1011
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: hole and whole and whole. You know, there's not any

1012
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: that crazy. There is some there's some pretty decent dunes land,

1013
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: but it's not as extreme as like the bally Bunions

1014
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: or or or some of the others that we're talking about.

1015
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: But man, just the quality of hole after a hole.

1016
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: You just you got to tip your cap.

1017
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: Oh one million percent, Yeah, I have I have higher

1018
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: than that. I think port Roach's spectac. Number four for

1019
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: me is Royal County Down and I honestly need to

1020
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: see it again. You know, I only played it once,

1021
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: and I mean you were there. We showed up and

1022
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 3: it was it was like I think the Sunday before

1023
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: maybe the the Senior Open. Something was going on and

1024
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: the place was deserted. There were no caddies, there was

1025
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: no yardage guides. We went out there. I just remember

1026
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: having that experience where we'd all all four of us,

1027
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: you know, pretty good drives on these blind holes. We

1028
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: crest the hill, becauldn't any golf balls. It's like, goddamn,

1029
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: we never knew where we were going.

1030
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: But I think Craig Bistrom is still out there in

1031
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: the gorse, searching for his searching for his calf. He

1032
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: got pissed and we walked away.

1033
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 3: Pours about for Craig. Yeah, but the the strength of

1034
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 3: that golf course, I mean, I remember the green complexes

1035
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: were just phenomenal for a Lynks course. You know, a

1036
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: lot of Links courses the greens are kind of flat

1037
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: and they're not super interesting. But I thought, I thought

1038
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: Royal County Downs were tremendous. That you know, the views

1039
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: of the town, it's an iconic photo we've all seen

1040
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: a thousand times, and just so many memorable holes, like

1041
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: so I think if I played it again it probably

1042
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 3: would get would go even higher. But massive respect to

1043
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 3: Royal County Down. It's just an incredible piece of ground.

1044
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: Incredible piece of ground, incredible test that to me is

1045
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: is like Carnoustie in terms of the it's hard, degree

1046
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: degree of difficulty. And and again I've now played it

1047
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: lucky enough to play it, you know, three or four times,

1048
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: maybe this was my fourth time, and uh and I've

1049
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: had a mix of all kinds of weather and this

1050
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: last time, you know, like I said, I got it

1051
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: in its vulnerable state and oh man, the amount of

1052
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: fun and that those views in that rainbow in the

1053
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: mountains of Morn and that experience in that walk, it

1054
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 1: just it was. It's it's number three on my list,

1055
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: So Royal County Down number three.

1056
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: Nice that bally Bunyan three. And it's it's a special place.

1057
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, even though on the second hole your ball

1058
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: just kept coming back down to you and just kept

1059
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: coming back.

1060
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 3: Those are all good shots, man, they were well executed.

1061
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 10: Yeah I think I made an eighth there, and I

1062
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 10: swear I did any bad shots, but yeah, it's I

1063
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 10: mean bally Bunnyan has kind of a romantic spot in

1064
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 10: my brain because I read about it.

1065
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 3: Part I ever played any Links golf and Tom Watson,

1066
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 3: you know, that was a place that he helped put

1067
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 3: on the map and just the name, the photographs, all

1068
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 3: of it, like it was kind of in my mind

1069
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 3: the ultimate Links golf course, probad ever left. I've ever

1070
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: been to the lynx Land at all, whether it was

1071
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 3: Scotland or Ireland, and when you get there, I mean

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Speaker 3: it lives up to it. It's just a tremendous course.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you play around that graveyard and it's

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Speaker 3: quirky and funky, and that's what I want in a

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Speaker 3: Lynks course, So so much fun.

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Speaker 1: That middle stretch at Ballybunya and you're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: what is you know? I mean it again, that's what

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Speaker 1: these that's what these places do is it's just as

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Speaker 1: one guy, I don't know it. You know, you're gobsmacked,

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01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, like as one of my favorite words, but

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Speaker 1: you're like, what's going on here? So actually number two

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Speaker 1: on my list is is Waterville. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: talk about the magic in the land of places like

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Speaker 1: Goat and Ardglass, but to me, I've had so many

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Speaker 1: spiritual experiences at Waterville, and so there is this connection

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Speaker 1: to that town and some of those people, the caddies,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kevin the caddy master, now you know they

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Speaker 1: I you know I years of now the father, so

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Speaker 1: the the you know, the butlers and all the you know,

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Speaker 1: the different sort of you know, jumping in the water

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Speaker 1: after big long night, singing the songs around the piano.

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Speaker 1: But it's also you know Duley's by the way right

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Speaker 1: there in the middle of town. It's also about the

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Speaker 1: golf course. And again Eddie Hackett of carn originally designer

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Speaker 1: the masshole. You know, you're going back to the eighteenth century.

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Speaker 1: I posted a recent instagram of mass you know that

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Speaker 1: they have at the masshole before the Father's son in

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Speaker 1: that swale in which you know, Catholic priests had to

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Speaker 1: sort of perform mass in fear of death. And that

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Speaker 1: golf course, if you think about it as six three

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01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: whole routings one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine,

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Speaker 1: and that in that stretch and all the different directions

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01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: that those three whole routings go, you're always going to

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Speaker 1: get a hole that is downwind into the wind, inside wind,

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01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: so you're never it's like, you know, you're never going

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01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: like out for nine holes and then back for nine holes.

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Speaker 1: It's it's this remarkable routing and whole after hole, you know,

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Speaker 1: in those little three three whole routings within that you know,

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Speaker 1: time six, you just get so much variety and adventure

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Speaker 1: and fun and fairness and all the things that like

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: matter to me. And and and again that connection, that

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Speaker 1: spiritual connection around things like the father son and now

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Speaker 1: the father daughter and all that you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: car Golf and Marty Carr have have put me in

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Speaker 1: in those experiences around Waterville.

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Speaker 3: It's just like.

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Speaker 1: It's it's number two and and it you know, it's

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Speaker 1: hard for me to not make it number one, but

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Speaker 1: I've got that for another course.

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Speaker 3: Number two for me is Royal Port Russian. I thought

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Speaker 3: about this, even though there's only been one open there

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Speaker 3: in my lifetime. It is my favorite course on the

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Speaker 3: open Rota. I think for for drama, for variety of holes,

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Speaker 3: for really cool views and really wild dunes. I like

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Speaker 3: it better than any other course. I mean the old

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Speaker 3: course is you know St. Andrews is amazing, but it's

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01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 3: it's a terrible course for spectating. And there's the sameness

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Speaker 3: to where those guys. The way they play those holes.

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01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: There's so many driveable par fours for the pros now

1130
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 3: and I love the old course. I'd play there any

1131
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 3: day in my life gladly. But I think it's lost

1132
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: some interest at the highest level as a championship venue.

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01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, like Troon, give me a break,

1134
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: like Carniuski's kind of flat and ugly, like I think, really,

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Speaker 3: I think the Royal Port Rush is the best course

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Speaker 3: on the Open Rota and I love it to pieces.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's number two.

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Speaker 1: I can see it and uh you know again it's

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:09,479
Speaker 1: it's four for me. And uh number one Number one

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Speaker 1: is is.

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Speaker 11: Ly hinch me too, no way, yeah wow, uh yeah

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Speaker 11: again now that I realized you hadn't said, I mean,

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01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 11: you know, if it wasn't on your list, it'd be

1144
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 11: it'd be sacrilege.

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01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, the hinch la hinch to me again. First hole,

1146
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: not that great second hole, not that great third hole.

1147
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: You know. Okay, now it's start fourth hold the Klondike,

1148
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, original old Tom Morris. We're going back to

1149
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: the to the eighteen ninety four, then then followed by

1150
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: the Dell and then you know what McKenzie then had

1151
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, did in the nineteen twenties. Hawtrey comes along

1152
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine, eight and eleven that you know,

1153
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: Hawtrey kind of inserted into that incredible golf court. Like

1154
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: again you talk about the middle of valley Bunny, go

1155
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: to the middle of la Hinch and try to you know, unbelievable, reachable.

1156
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: Par four is incredible. Part three. I think Lahinch is

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01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: Part four's or some of the you know, some of

1158
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: the best in all of Ireland golf. Not to mention

1159
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: it's also that little surfing village. It's the town of

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: Lahinch itself. I you know, the vibe and energy I

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01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: get there. I you know, I was sort of well

1162
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: overserved myself on a recent trip to Lahinch and sort

1163
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: of gave back some of it to the to the

1164
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: to the golf gods, but furthering my connection, my respect

1165
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: and love and admiration for Lynch. It's like I think

1166
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: I was serving pints for about two and a half

1167
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: hours in the nineteenth the bar there in town, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just all of it, all of it. The sum

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: total of what is Lahinch is number one on my lists.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you said it it's just it just doesn't quit.

1171
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: It's just such an interesting golf course. And you know,

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01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 3: obviously as discussed like a place like Port Marnick is

1173
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: it's a tremendous test of golf. But it doesn't have

1174
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 3: the quirkiness, it doesn't have the weirdness. That's what I

1175
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 3: love about links golf, Like give me the blind holes,

1176
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 3: make me hit it over at dune like and Lynch

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01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 3: just it just it just brings it at every turn.

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Speaker 3: So it's really special.

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01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: Two holes, you know, the Klondikendel have not been touched

1180
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: by anybody who've come along. They basically out of you know,

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01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: respect and admiration for old Tom who you know what

1182
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: I think of him and his impact on the you know,

1183
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: I just think it's like, oh my god. Yes, you

1184
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: know when you're you're taking aim at a stone at

1185
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: the top of the top of the dune, you know,

1186
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: back to back, you know, like yes, yes, please perfect

1187
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: and you know where they are in the routing four

1188
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: and five. It's just yeah. And then the reveal on six,

1189
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: by the way, when you get up to the top

1190
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: of that and look down to the water. And again

1191
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: the eighth hole and then the eleventh uh and twelve,

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01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: you know along the little the little inlet there, the

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: little river.

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01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 3: Was amazing. Yeah, that's great. That's cute that we have

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Speaker 3: the same number one.

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Speaker 9: Cute.

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Speaker 3: It's unanimous we have.

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Speaker 1: That we had the same number one in our in

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Speaker 1: our in our Australian trip too, by the way, Ki.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well just discerning golfers, that's great. I love it. Well,

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01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: this has been such a fun conversation and I would

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Speaker 3: really encourage all the listeners out there to check out

1203
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: both of the big Janello's journeys. We have dropped. Belfast

1204
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 3: is brand new, but Dublin is is it's been out

1205
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 3: for a little while. But they really are great companion

1206
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: pieces and it's a fun contrast and it's just it's

1207
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: it's it's fun to see you do your thing, Matt, like,

1208
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, this was this is why this

1209
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: company was founded in large part because you wanted to

1210
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: be able to tell the stories you want to tell

1211
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 3: and do them, you know, really immersive and really long form.

1212
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: And so both of these videos do that. And you know,

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01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 3: shout out to Jake Muldowney who played a huge part

1214
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 3: in the editing and helped shephard these projects. And certainly

1215
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 3: appreciate the the help of Link Soul and Dormy and

1216
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: Golf Digest, who you know, all played a role in

1217
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 3: bringing these to life. But you know, you're the driving

1218
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 3: force on both of these episodes, so it's cool that

1219
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 3: people get to travel along with you.

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Speaker 1: Well again, thanks to Tourism Ireland for also supporting, you know,

1221
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: the opportunity to tell these stories. And as you said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I used to I used to, you know,

1223
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: in our mind when we were at Golf Channel and

1224
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: our crews would roll out there. In our mind we

1225
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: were always doing twenty two to thirty minute shows. They

1226
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Speaker 1: would just only they'd get cut down to five six

1227
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Speaker 1: seven minute segments. I said, we'd kill the cow and

1228
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: only eat the filet, and everything else would go to waste.

1229
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: And you know, only I knew what what wasn't being

1230
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, sort of shared with the audience and the viewer,

1231
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: And these are these This is exactly you know, as

1232
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Speaker 1: you say, it's essentially a dream come true for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we got stopped with two years of COVID

1234
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: right as kind of we were forming this company, and

1235
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: that obviously directly impacted travel in ways that you know,

1236
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Speaker 1: been it obviously impacted the world in so many ways,

1237
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: and obviously it's a global pandemic. But as it relates

1238
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: to travel, you know that that was that was a

1239
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: significant speed bump in trying to get to where we

1240
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: want to go with you know, travel storytelling. But I

1241
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: think that with Tourism of Ireland, with Golf Digest, with

1242
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: some of the other partners and the people involved, it

1243
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: now feels like we are getting to do what we

1244
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: always sort of wanted to do and talk to the

1245
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: people we wanted to talk to and share the stories

1246
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: we want to share. So appreciate all the people that

1247
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: were a part of this and this opportunity to kind

1248
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: of reflect on it, and thanks to everybody, and thanks

1249
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: to you.

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 3: All Right, Well, that's good stuff. This has been another

1251
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 3: fire Drill podcast. Check out Firepit Collective dot com. We

1252
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: have links to all of these stories and we'll keep

1253
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 3: putting out some more sort of directors cut extras on

1254
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 3: the socials and elsewhere. But for Matt Janella, this is

1255
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: Alan Schipnak and we appreciate you listening and hopefully you'll

1256
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 3: check out the videos. I think you'll enjoy them. Thanks

1257
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 3: for being a part of this podcast and this is

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Speaker 3: the end.

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Speaker 4: I'm bet big and I played the wind, made a fortune,

1260
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 4: win my shit game, and I ran the table and

1261
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 4: then I thought I could fall. Then the win hit me.

1262
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 3: Lack of cannon, the ball, and now I cann it.

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01:10:56,360 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: Shake this losing the stream. Every road take is a

1264
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: dead end street. I got thoughts in my head, can't

1265
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 2: get them out, trying not to think what I'm thinking about.

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Speaker 2: I've got thoughts in my head. I can't get them out,

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Speaker 2: trying not to think what I'm thinking about.