WEBVTT - "Learning How To Heal and Protect Our Communities." 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:03.920 And we are your hosts of street politicians, the places 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:08.600 in the streets and politics me. So it is it 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:13.480 is like always something happening. First of all, the government, 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:18.040 it's gone wild. That's all I had in today's show. 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:23.680 We're still sticking with the six episodes um the series 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.240 that we're doing on gun violence. So I'm not gonna 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.000 take up a lot of time talking about all the 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.360 other things that's happening. But people need to know that 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.960 our government is in crisis. We've been in crisis for 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.879 some time. You will will be in crisis, but we 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.440 certainly are in crisis now. We now have seen that 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:46.800 over the last weekend. Uh, there has been um a 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:51.720 lift if you will, on the band um or what 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.760 is it? I guess it's the moratorium is the right word, 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.520 the moratorium on evictions and people are out here like 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.200 you know, hell, folks had p p P and they 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.959 had this, and they had money and they should have paid. Okay, 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.600 you can say that, but at the same time, we 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.160 want the violence and the crime out of our communities. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:16.760 You can't have people out homeless who you expect to 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.480 live a certain way to live righteously, because folks are 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.440 gonna find a way to eat. Okay, they're gonna find 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:29.000 survival mechanisms. And so in the midst of a pandemic, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.160 where we're they're saying that there is a surge in 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.440 uh COVID cases, that people are getting sick. The pandemic 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.959 is not over. We should not be in any way 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.840 removing people from their homes at this time. So I 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.240 believe in personal responsibility. Hell yeah, we believe in personal 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.280 responsibility because I paid my bills the whole pandemic, no 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.520 matter what I had to do. But at the end 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.400 of the day, there's a lot of people out there 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.840 that can't make that happen. And what you always say, 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:00.200 my is the there the exception, but not the room. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.440 And we understand what we're dealing with. The government knows 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.480 what's happening. You know, a lot of people in the 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.280 home from for months, you know, most a lot of 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.359 businesses have didn't return. You know, businesses didn't return. A 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.519 lot of people still haven't going back to work. A 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.160 lot of people are just traumatizing skinned to go to work. 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.480 So we we have to you it take time to 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:25.360 undo a pandemic, to undo the just the the long 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.919 term effects of it. You know, the trauma that people 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.880 are then, so now on top of that, you're gonna 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.720 add rent back, you know, and talking about they need 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.480 to pay these bills, you know, after you suspended it, 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.440 like it's just like, this ain't the time to do it, 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.160 especially when, like you said, we were there's a resurgence 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.640 of COVID and a eighteen different strains and people just 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.960 didn't People are just starting to get back to normal, 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.160 you know. So you've got to give people some grades, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.680 gotta give them some opportunities, you know, you got to 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.840 give them a little bit of time to get back 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.240 and to the blow before you start threatening them, tell 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.799 them they need to get out and being stret they 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.359 went on vacations, I'm like, yeah, and so the landlords, right, 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.960 So did some of the landlords. They took some of 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.240 the money that they received and didn't do with it 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.360 what they were supposed to do. Everybody is at fault. 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.079 But at the end of the day, we all in 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.160 I thought, they said, we were all in this together. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.200 A little bit of vacation that somebody got that they 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.040 ain't been on vacation their whole life. They probably never 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.560 went to Toulon, in this place, in that place, and 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.359 can coom or whatever. They got a little check for 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.480 five thousand dollars and spent a little bit on a vacation. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.040 The sneakers that their child has been asking them for 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.880 a little bit of summertime in the city, and we 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:47.040 seemed to be criminalizing and demon demonizing those individuals. Now, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.960 the system might criminalize some folks that got them p 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:54.560 P P P p p P loans. They might be criminalized, 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:59.120 But we know that evicting people from their home is 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.119 a real serious and we don't want to see people homeless. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.640 If nothing else, you don't want to see people homeless. 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:11.120 But it brings me to my thought of the day. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:16.680 My thought of the day is why are grocries so 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:21.839 damn expensive? Like? What is is it not possible to 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:26.599 find some type of way not to have groceries, especially 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.200 healthy food. Now, some people say, well, it's not that 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.839 much more to eat health It is the milk that 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.880 I drink zero percent milk, right, which I probably shouldn't 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.520 be drinking it at all, And and you know, other 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.400 others who are extremely healthy tell me that I should 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.800 be doing a whole bunch of other things instead of 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:50.320 drinking milk. But nonetheless, the zero percent milk that I drink, 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.279 the fat free milk, right, my milk is almost nine 0:04:54.400 --> 0:05:00.240 dollars for a half a gallon. Nine dollars. So what 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.440 I'm trying to understand is like we didn't want people 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:07.520 to be healthy. We're saying that America is obests. We're 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.840 saying that Americans rather are obese. We're saying that the 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.760 health crisis is this matic preexisting conditions and all this 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.960 and that. And still when you go to the grocery 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:23.039 store a little bag of groceries, one bag could be 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.400 a hundred dollars and you hardly have anything in it. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.200 How are people surviving? Because I know, for me, I 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.240 have the resources to do it, and I still feel 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.479 uncomfortable spending the type of money that I'm spending in 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.960 the grocery store. You're experiencing this because I'm I'm I'm 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.839 struggling now. Groceries are very high. Like for real, every 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.440 time every time I go to the store, I can't 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.560 believe the amount of money I's been for the few 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.520 things that's in the bag. Like you said, it just 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.800 really doesn't make sense. Thirty dollars and you'll be having 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.960 like four things in the bag and those things ain't 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.000 gonna last through through the night, you know. So it's 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:03.360 it's really crazy. Like when you look at air flights, 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.599 everybody's trying to make up for what they lost. Everybody 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.080 has played double. It's like it's a drought. Like you 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:11.320 know what I'm saying, Like when we was in the 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.760 street that you were hustling and you were selling weed, 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.320 and when it was a drought, you double. You made 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.520 the weed a double two times where the normally was 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.800 because people knew they couldn't get it or people knew 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.960 they really needed it. The same thing they was doing 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.159 with the lights of whites. Remember there was charging people 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.880 all types of money for things like that. So you know, 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.240 we're we're in those times where you know, the economy 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.520 has suffered and people who have things that they know 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.200 are you know, commodities and things that people want, and 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.640 they feel like, you know a lot of people got 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.160 those little p P P loans and they're gonna they're 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.520 gonna spend it fast. So they're trying to get their 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.640 money back while they feel like it's a couple of 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.000 hours out there. But all of that is drying up 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.440 right now. Man, It's all drying up. It's drying up, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.000 for sure, but it's kind of like, what do you 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.960 do if you are somebody who's really struggling but you're 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.000 trying to take care of yourself and your family. It 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:10.200 scares me to think that a single mother who doesn't 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:15.400 qualify for food stamps, because they demonize people who get 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.000 any type of subsidies. So if you work on a job, 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:23.080 let's just say you are um an assistant maybe at 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.080 a college or you know, you're you know, a pretty 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.000 decent job where you dressed nice every day and you're 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:33.640 going into an office and you're making maybe seventeen eighteen 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:38.440 dollars an hour, maybe even twenty an hour. That sounds good, right, 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.800 That's that's nice. But if you go to the grocery 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.880 store and most of your money is being spent on that, 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.560 and also transportation because now that people are going back 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.440 to work, it is expensive to get on the train. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.680 I think the training thing is like two dollars and 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.800 seventy or something like that per ride per day. You 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.840 have kids that want to have, you know, snacks and 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.360 different things. Maybe you want to get your hand your 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.560 nail sounn because you need to keep yourself up to 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.320 be able to go to work, your children need a haircut. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:15.320 How I don't understand how we could even be having 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:19.400 a conversation about just now getting to the point where 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:23.440 there is a debate that has not in any way 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:27.680 been passed on fifteen hour. So it's people that ain't 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.760 even making that, and they they hustling every day trying 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.079 to make ends meet. But then you have folks who 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.400 are making above that, who are still living very far 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.120 below the poverty line. And if you will go to 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.000 the grocery store and you have to spend three and 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.040 four hundred dollars for your family of four, even your 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.280 family or three, even the family or two, just to 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.480 get the things that you need to be able to 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.319 have lunch every day, have dinner every day, have juice, 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.000 and things in the refrigerator, and don't start with washing 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.199 clothes and buying like detergent it maybe you know the laundry, 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.600 the cleaners for you like this. This is a very 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.000 expensive life that people are living. And you can see 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.760 why people are frustrated because we fix it up nice. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.880 We fix it up you. You fix it up with 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.280 a good crispy white T shirt on a nice hat. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.520 We always keep our feet fresh. You know, we I 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.280 like to wear nice clothes. People look at us and 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.440 there's and there's a level of resentment that builds up 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.480 because you look like you're doing so well while your 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.160 community and the people that come from where you come 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.160 from are struggling. And I get white folks are so 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:41.199 damn frustrated because it's really expensive to survive, especially if 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.160 you live in the re ord. And by the way, 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.920 I just came back from Cleveland, and it's no better 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:50.520 day when you go to the school. Right, it is 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:55.240 really hard out here, and it makes those who are 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.319 have a little bit look like you start looking like food. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.920 People get mad at you that you become target. Like 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.520 I'm telling you, like, robbery is a big thing, right, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.800 you know, it's a big thing. People are robbing people 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.679 because some people have looked like, you know, they progressed 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.480 during the pandemic, they kept up, they looked like they 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.200 have more. And there's a lot of people like in 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.800 the dictment area. You know, my little brother hangs out there, 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.480 goes to a lot of these clubs, and he's telling 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.960 me how, like every other night you're going to the 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.520 club and people are getting robbed. Women a woman got 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.040 snatched at the car, literally snatched at the car and 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.280 they're taking jury. So that's it's at an old time post. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.600 So you know, it's it's very dangerous out here for 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.360 people who who look like they got a little more 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.520 than left me. And then it's very hard out here 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.600 for people who just don't have it. So, you know, 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.040 we just said some these are some difficult times. Man, 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:49.360 We're in real difficult times. And hopefully this administration and 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.839 the government tried to get together. I don't really have 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.120 much faith in ane of that, but we're gonna keep fighting. 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:01.400 So in keeping about that and itself and need sort 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.680 of write into the conversation around the gun violence that's 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.680 happening in our community. And today I'm really really happy, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.960 um and and really honored you will to have two 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.880 giants with us. And so my son, let me keep 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.640 it to you, and let's introduce our guests before we 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.280 go to the next segment and have our special guests joint. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:25.319 We're gonna take a quick break for our sponsors. But 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.680 as we've been promoting, this is our fifth episode on 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.040 gun violence and what it's gonna take in order for 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.640 us to combat it. We've been interviewing and you don't 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.400 have the conversations with a lot of grassroots organizers. We've 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.840 had different organizers, we've had people from law enforcement, we've 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.680 had government officials, and now today we want to have 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.720 a penel like discussion. And today joining us are two 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.840 grassroots organizers who are really doing the work. People always ask, oh, 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.240 you know, why ain't nobody doing the work about gun 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.840 violence that happens in our communities. People always want to 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.480 tell about the gun violence that the police is doing, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.520 and and it's really what's going on our community is 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.880 more important, and we do do that. We talk about 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.719 that as well. And these are two people who are 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:16.000 living testaments to that who's worked proceed them, who have 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:20.000 been victims, who have been family members, who have been victims, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.360 who have been surrounded by utilize their pain and turned 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.520 it into purpose. One of them have already been on 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.640 our show. We have my brother, Mr. San Duke mcfader, 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:35.240 who is the founder and CEO of g MAC Gangsters 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:40.440 making astronomical community changes, which the organization that he founded, 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.600 you know, coming from prison and he understood the need 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.400 to transform his life and also utilize his experiences to 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.599 be one of the people who used to be the 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.000 ones who started the violence of the community. Now he's 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.960 once to interrupt with so we want to say thank 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.040 you and and I'm welcome to the your again. To 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.280 our brother Shan Duke, thank you for having me. I 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.360 appreciate y'all. Yes, sir, as usual, this is our friend. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.319 Like you know, we always have friends with the show. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.240 So let me get this way because I don't want 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.480 to not say her name properly. But this young lady, 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.920 I've read her rio and she is amazing as well. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.800 Joining us today is Ms Tabell from the Tribute Project. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:27.680 She's also a grassroots organizer and who focuses on gun violence. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:32.439 She's been impacted family members, friends, and she utilized her 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.280 pain and she also turned into purpose. So thank you 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.920 Tibell for joining us today for this in depth discussion 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.600 that we're gonna have on gun violence in our committee. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.719 Thank you Tia and Shand for being with us. Um 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.920 you know, Shand we asked you to come back today 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:53.920 because I think you have a very very unique position 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:58.240 that you sit in. Being an organizer is clearly one 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.520 part of it. But I'll so watch being around you often. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.640 How many men work at work with you who are 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.319 recently returning or you're trying to help them stay out 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.559 of the truth. And right now, what we're seeing happen 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.880 UH is a resurgence in violence in our community in 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.600 a way that we can't ignore it. We can't act 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.560 like it's not happening. We can't turn a blind eye. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.880 It's a real serious situation. And it's cool to talk 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.440 to all the folks who think they know, but there's 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.480 some people who actually do know. And I think that's 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.360 why we want to focus on this, this conversation with 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.680 the two of you today, UH, tr you and I 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:42.880 recently became acquainted. Um, you've now become my sister. I've 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.400 learned how much you know, how much you've been doing UH. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.680 And you know, oftentimes, unfortunately we as women in this 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:55.480 work are overlooked because we know that violence definitely is 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.920 a larger issue for our men, but we also know 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.760 that women are star and to become the fastest growing 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.440 population going into prison and also having violent issues, whether 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.480 it be domestic issues and or street violence issues, and 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.160 so UM, we can't ignore that. And the first show 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.880 that we did five shows ago, we talked about and 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.240 had Maggie carry on Shan Duke and others where we 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:25.280 talked about women and how they are impacted by this 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:29.840 epidemic that we are in. And so this we're speaking 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:35.440 on the backdrop of a shooting, multiple shootings or one 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.960 incident um that happened in the last weekend in New 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.760 York City where ten people were shot. And I think, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.040 Shandon Do, you were bringing us up to speed that 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:51.160 there were three people who were the alleged intended target, 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.960 but at least seven people who were hit surrounding this 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.000 incident um, and clearly that's it's serious, you know. And 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.680 I think for me and what I appreciate about duty 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.960 A and you Shan Do is that you guys get 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:10.360 the intersection between police accountability and what we are fighting 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:14.400 for there and what we're doing to raise awareness and 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.360 to really curb the violence in our community. So it's 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.920 so important that we talked because if we don't, the 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.960 solution from government officials will be to put more police 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.880 in our communities, and we know that that will not work. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.760 So talk to us and do let's get started with 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:33.440 you just talk about what's happening, what you know that 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.560 happened in New York um, and then what's what is 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:43.160 the organizing UH idea concepts that are happening among the 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.200 crisis management system and others who are working in New 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.640 York to try to address the surgeon violence. All right, 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.320 thank you. So when we look at the surge, we 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.920 have to frost be aware of the fact that we 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:01.840 are still recovering from a pandemic. A lot of things 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.200 that happened through at that time went unaddressed. And one 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.600 of those things we know priorly that we had Beall 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.000 reform and then Ball reform. There was an attack on 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:15.320 Bell Reform from UH prosecution where they just felt to 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.560 release anybody and everybody, not really assessing the cases, but 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.120 just releasing people just as a this is what we're 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.679 gonna do since you want Ball reform. So there were 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.280 a lot of people who didn't deserve to be in 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.359 our communities, out in our community because they didn't receive 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.520 any type of mental rehabilitation, and we have to be 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.879 acceptance of that. So there were also people who released 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:37.320 from state prisons who received no type of services. Everything 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.359 was shut down, right, So imagine someone doing a year 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.040 or more and coming right back into our community and 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.640 only option that they have is those in the community 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.440 who are on the violent or criminal mindset offer them 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.040 of those criminal activities. So we have to really look 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.080 at that as part of the problem, and a lot 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.040 of trauma not being addressed, including the fact that we 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.280 have a whole bunch of police brutality still in our 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.040 community that we don't see no justice for. Recently in 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.520 New York City and Corona Queens. Yes, there was alleged 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:12.639 tend people's shot seven bystanders with them Leslie identifying and 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.840 I always said, Leslie, because I'm good, I'm in Chicago, 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.720 and I'll getting information based off of what has been reported. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.000 So in our work we like to go into the 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.600 field and understand and get our facts to be sure 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.560 who was causing the violence. So in this instance it 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.240 has been said that it's the Trinity Daddios. I'm gonna 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.600 go with Potios because if you know, stay prisons there 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.359 and I stay prisons and we call them Potio And 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.640 there's there's a history allegedly where they also were part 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.640 of the killing of Junior years ago in the Bronx. 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.480 So if you look at issues, you have to understand 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.040 what is causing these issues. So if there's a problem 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.399 with the Potias, and I will work. That's who we 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.960 look to engage, right and if we're not engaging them 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.960 in those areas, there's no way we'll be able to 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.840 mediate the conflicts that they're having. Was according to this 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.480 last incident, they were allegedly shooting at three people who 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.639 were shot who are supposed to be rivals. We have 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:12.160 to determine what those who those rivals are and determine 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:17.120 what we can do to mediate any retaliation in our community, 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.159 as the christ Management says, And we also have to 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:23.000 look at those seven innocent people and their families and 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.480 how someone may not be affiliated, may not be living 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.440 no life of crime, but may feel a certain way 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.040 now because they had an innocent family member shot. Right, 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.560 So this is what our world looks like. Putting a 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.959 bandage on that those issues right now, why we continue 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.400 to work on a bigger issue of why that group 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.480 feels that they have to respond in broad daylight to 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.040 a group of individuals with depraved and difference for the 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.199 other lives around those individuals that they want to attack. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:51.879 So it's a lot of work that we have to 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.800 work on preventing, not just folks on the issue after 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.320 that happens, you know, That's why I like and I 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.280 understand because we come from the same you know, pretty 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:06.360 much the same background and understanding how intricate the work is, right, 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.920 understanding that you have when you when you come from 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.600 a game culture, you know you are, you are personal, 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.160 accept and acknowledge that he's a blood and you bring 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:23.439 your bloodness, your blood um title into this work and 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:27.439 utilize it to transform right because you identified with the 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.520 culture of the game culture, you identified with the the 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.119 actual rules and laws, and you play the real rules 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.000 and laws, and what it was actually founded for was 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.680 protection of our communities in our neighborhoods, and you're transform 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:43.400 his minds. So having those understanding that and being able 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.440 to connect with the game culture and understanding how these 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.760 things happen, how who you need to talk to, how 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:52.919 do you intercept understanding why we're saying that it's not 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.600 about police be in our community because they don't stop. 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.720 They are unable to have that intel, they're unable to 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.720 have respecting those connections in our communities that could actually 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.560 further stop further violence. So I just want to commit 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.560 you and that and say that's why I always say 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.000 that it's definitely needed. But Te, I just want you 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.880 to give us your perspective about the violence that's going 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.679 on in the communities and all over. What what what 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.680 is your perspective coming from your background and the work 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.560 that you do. What do you see? What do you think? Yeah? Yeah, 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.439 I want to again just say I'm grateful to to 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.800 be on this platform and share my unique perspective. UM, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.800 I'd like to believe that God designed my life to 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.000 join this fight and really ending gun violence. And and Shan, 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.840 do you said something so powerful? I don't. I don't 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.800 even think I breathe. I took a breath while you 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:49.280 were talking, Um, But it just it. It's reaffirming, unfortunately 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:54.280 that our deep wounds require deep, deep, deep killing. And 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.720 until we get the voice of who Shan Duke is 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.800 advocating for and GMAC and who Trigger is advocating for, 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:05.040 really at the table, we're gonna continue to see this 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:10.600 manifestation of despair and using the gun as a solution. Um. 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:14.240 The Trigger project stands for true reasons. I grabbed the gun, 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:18.320 evolved from risk and as a survivor. I almost lost 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.440 my mom when I was ten. She was shot twice 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:25.560 in broad daylight. It wasn't a shock, you know, UM, 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:29.640 I knew who had did it um, and there wasn't 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.680 a shanduke to come to me and say, hey, let 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.200 me get a full understanding of what you know that happened. 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.159 Let me get you on the basketball or so you 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.840 can release your feelings, let me um support you, mentor 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.120