WEBVTT - For Pete's Sake 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:05.360 Ka Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.560 a week was enough, I think again. He's the last 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.280 remnants of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.360 He treats crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.439 the rich pill poppers in the penthouse the clearing House 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.200 of hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:33.599 Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere, 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.960 back at it. A weekend has begun. It's the Fifth 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:44.519 Hour with Ben Maller and Danny g Radio. Not here today, 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.680 but he'll be here on Saturday and Sunday, because four 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.360 hours a night are not enough. We do this eight 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.880 days a week from a podcast studio at a secret 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.440 location somewhere in the north Woods. And we thank you 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:03.560 for subscribing for this thing, for downloading the podcast. And 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.080 it is Friday, so that means a chance to catch 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:13.120 up with someone in the world of media sports that 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.040 we can have a conversation with. And the big story 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:22.360 this week has been all about college football and coaches 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:28.280 getting ridunculous amounts of money. Brian Kelly leaving Notre Dame 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.520 to go to l s U and Lincoln Riley saying 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.200 goodbye to Oklahoma to go to USC. These are massive 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:41.360 stories which is going to shift the entire financial spectrum 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:46.120 of coaches salaries for every other sport to trickle down effect, 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:51.280 certainly in football, and there's talk now of NFL salaries rising. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:55.280 Inflation is coming um to the world of sports. The 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.960 contracts already outrageous, but the money is getting even more 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:03.200 and more into the stratosphere in the world of football. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:07.280 And who better to break it all down then someone 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.640 who has been the one man band, at least it 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:15.400 seems that way. Behind the website College Football News dot Com, 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.880 Pete feu Tak joins us. Now this week we're gonna 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.120 have a conversation here with Pete. Now, Pete, I have 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.960 described College Football News dot Com as the bible of 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:29.079 the college gridiron. It is my go to site. When 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:33.480 I need some information on college football, I always turn 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.600 to your website. How would you sum it up for 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.400 those that haven't read it a way that I have 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.720 not had to go get a real job in a 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.000 long time. So that's basically yet everything brown This is 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.800 about me having to get this living, this weird, crazy 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.640 world of college sports and deal with it all. But 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.480 it's fun. You know. The whole idea and is that 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.919 everyone gets too crazy about sport in general, especially when 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.880 there are real world topics that actually matter. Uh. In 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.160 the fun part about college football is you've got some 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.440 of the richest, most powerful people on the planet who 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.440 get just insane over what a bunch of eighteen to 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.280 twenty three year old kids do on a football field 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:21.080 and or god forbid you, you know, do their their 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.560 school sign up or down, or make fun of their 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.519 fight song or anything. And uh, it's all supposed to 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.760 be silly. It's all fun, and you have people take 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:34.040 it so seriously and beyond that, just predict games and 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.600 go from there and give the people what they want, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:41.400 especially like the season this year. It's gonna whole lot 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.160 of fun and even more than ever after doing this 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.600 for as long as we've been doing this for Yeah, 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.440 what what what did you do Pete before this? Like 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.839 I've only known you as this guy, like you've had 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.360 that I was doing a website. I had a rumor 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.040 website for a while, and you guys were doing you know, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.120 you were doing your thing at College Football News, and 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:00.920 you know, I haven't done at a long time. And 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:05.440 you're still pumping out story after story after story, your machine. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.360 What what did you do before this? Not to put 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.000 a log on the fire here and get this whole 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:13.120 They'll do as fast as possible. I started on advertising. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.360 I worked then for a now defunct publication called Pro 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.680 Football Weekly here in Chicago for several years. UH, and 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.839 then in the late ninety nineties, a couple of guys 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.000 there and I were like, hey, you guys should take 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.000 this print publication and make do this whole online thing. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.000 And they weren't really into it, and then it was 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.880 too late for that. And then one day I there 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.600 was some data out there that said that the most 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.479 red stuff on the Internet in the nineteen nineties came 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.000 out of like the Dallas Morning News and the recruiting 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.760 rankings and anything to do with college football. And I 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.200 just so happened to like, say, I love college football, 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.880 I love making picks in writing about this, and I 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.320 started up then in and it's gone from there and 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.839 UH quickside true story. I actually really took off with 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:03.599 the Fox World UH on my birthday one year, I 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.440 think it was two thousand issues. So UH had had 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.359 the newspaper and we used to get the newspaper and 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.320 the uh, the wife looked in and looked at my 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.800 horoscope and for my birthday that day, and how what 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.760 are your lucky letters for the the upcoming year? And 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.120 the lucky letters were f o X. Okay ha ha. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.839 I'm gonna just send out a just a blind email 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.520 to Fox and just say, I know you're changing up 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.000 your site and stuff if you're looking for college football content. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.279 And so I sent down just that one of the 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.000 general mailbox at Fox sports dot com and within like 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.400 fifteen minutes later got something back saying, yeah, we really 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.440 luck you guys. You guys are great. This is great, 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.520 not knowing that it was just me doing this, and 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.120 then I hooked up with Fox and was with them 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.719 for about fifteen years or so as a content provider, 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.480 and uh, all that and everything to start of took 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.280 off from there. That's not supposed to work, Pete, as 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.240 you know, that's not Yeah, you're you're not just fishing 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.560 and and that's that's awesome. And you are a one 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.640 man band, right, I mean, do you have other people 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.839 every time? I'm amazed at the amount of content that 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.880 you turn out every day. It's in it's an insane 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.960 you've got that down to a science there. How many 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.720 I don't have as much of an ego about it 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.240 as you think, considering my name is slapt on everything. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.599 But there are minions behind the scenes who do lots 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.599 of grunt work, who help out with the basics and 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.240 research and a whole lot of other things. But yes, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:31.919 at the end of the day, I finalize everything and 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:33.719 put it all off under CFN. But we do have 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.200 other guys who worked there, uh, not as made in 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.360 the Fox days when you know, we had a staff 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.440 about fifteen guys who helped crank stuff out. And it's uh, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.279 there's a there's a fun, interesting, quirky CFN tree of 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.840 talent out there doing all sorts of other things uh 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.400 in the world as we speak. Some in the sports 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:57.880 world there fully start out at the UH CFN, Russ Mitchell, 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.440 who is a famous radio guy across the SEC plane 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.760 and guys who do, like I said, who've gone on 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.200 to do much bigger and much better things than this. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.160 But it's just been around long enough, and it's been crazy. 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.000 It's every year is different. The Internet always changes. The 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.800 sports business world has never quite been the same. UH. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.800 Through COVID, through UH you name it, through different algorithms, 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.240 through everything. It has not been the same any of 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.080 the years. I've been doing this for the last twenty 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.840 something years or so, and I gotta give you credit. Pete. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.160 You're a Chicago guy and I read your stuff. I 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.200 don't sense maybe I'm missing it, maybe I have a 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.560 blind spot, but I don't sense any kind of like 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:41.160 bias towards a a certain Big ten schools. And when 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.160 you were growing up, what was your team when you 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.520 were when you were young. Yeah, I grew up in Minneapolis, 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.400 and my dad worked in colleges all all My dad 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.440 worked in colleges all his life, so I've grown up 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.400 on college campuses all my life. So I grew up 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.840 in Minneapolis. He worked in the University of Minnesota. I 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.280 went to Wisconsin because it got me in state tuition. 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.160 UH in with Minnesota uh and then I live in Chicago. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:07.120 So I do, of course like the Big ten. But 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.760 i'm my biases towards anything over the last you know, 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.400 millions of years. It's just to the Power five schools, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:18.560 because for example, all the Cincinnati arguments, all the other 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.240 things when it comes to any other smaller school. Not 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.480 that I'm not rooting for the little guy. But I 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.600 just know now what goes into these Power five schools 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.920 and just big machines they are, and just how much 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.320 talent it takes to keep those things going and how 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.839 hard it is to get to those schedules. So I 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.679 do admit to being a total Power five snob, and 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.240 at this point, honestly, I just root for great games, 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.360 great moments. I want to see the big moments, you know, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.600 Like again, I went to Wisconsin, but I was kind 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:52.680 of mad that Iowa lost. I beat Nebraska and so 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.160 that it would have been Minnesota versus Wisconsin for a 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.600 shot to play for the Big Ten championship. I root for, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.160 you know, I want to see the big giant game. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.720 And beyond that, you know, my biases pretty much go 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.280 for whatever my picks are for that week. Yeah, and 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.480 see this is I'm glad you brought them because I 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.719 have this argument in college basketball every year when the 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.520 n c A Tournament comes around and I hear all 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.880 these people, I want to see the small schools when 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.559 you know, in the early round of the tournament, and 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.040 you know, being a radio guy, we do I do 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.280 an overnight show, and so we talked that's when we 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:29.559 mostly talk college basketball, there's no Jews. People don't I 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.320 don't care. They don't want to talk about the smallest school. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.080 They everyone wants to see the upsets. But when Duke wins, 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.120 and you know, for example in basketball or something like that, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.440 people call up, they want to talk, you have opinions 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.800 about it, and and it's kind of be the same 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.880 thing in college football, right, I mean, as you point out, 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.680 you you see the data on the traffic and what's 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.000 getting clicks and all that, right, and that's that's a factor. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.280 It works for oh, it works for Power five conferences 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:58.880 to Stanford being good, people's pageview death, you know, so 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.640 that's just that does not you know, there's certain schools 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.760 that will help me. I'm always had, but you know, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:08.280 on the flip side, Marshall, places like you know, every 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.400 once in a while, like Coastal Carolina last year and 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.120 it was rocket and rolling, uh, certain East Carolina certain 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.200 you know, you CF certainly has a massive enough fan 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.960 base where it certainly helps business wise. But again, I 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:22.719 just kind of roots for the big things and you're 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.520 dead on right when it comes to gets a tournament. 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.319 You showed me, you know, Central Connecticut Tech State beating 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.120 Duke in the second round, and I'll show you a 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.400 n third round matchup somewhere coming in and down the 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.120 rides road. So I mt churning even more than anythink. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.120 E it's give me the top four teams, give me 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.760 the monsters at the very end. And yeah, but look, 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.640 and then there is a flip side all this. And 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.280 in the college football playoff world, you know, we've had 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.000 monsters over the last few years. We've had the biggest 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.400 of the big names get in and you've had the 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.280 you know, the l s U and Alabama, Clemson and 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.439 House States, and we've had blowout after blowout in these 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.560 college foo all playoff matchups. So I do say all that, 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.360 and I'm tongue in cheeks say I am a power 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.160 five snow, but I do get it when the public 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.600 out there is sick of Alabama, when it's sick of 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.720 the same old, same old schools, And it's more fun 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.000 in the year like this when you do have you know, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.200 a Cincinnati in an Oklahoma state and you know even 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.840 in Michigan who are more and even Georgian to a 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.720 certain extent, are kind of the new teams involved in this. 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.840 And I think when they do expand the college football playoff, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.000 whatever that does happen, it's just going to expand it 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.120 even more and get more programs involved in, more fan 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.920 bases involved, without ruining the integrity of the regular season 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.080 of college football. Kind of like they've already done that 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.920 with college basketball, but uh, it is more fun when 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.480 you get more fan bases involved in this. Be sure 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.240 to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.400 at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:54.400 Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. So what 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.200 what is the big hit on college footballs? You you 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.560 do a lot of game previews and all kinds of things. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.880 Is it the gossipy stories or is it the hardcore 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:08.680 like football breakdowns? Like? What is it that really? Addictions? Predictions, predictions, predictions. 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.440 That's that everything you know, everyone wants to and as 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.880 much as I fought it for many years, predictions are 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:20.200 always what everyone wants, especially now, and that's where things 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.959 have changed more than anything else over the time. The 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.360 starting is because it used to be that you want 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.400 the longer content, you want the feature articles, you want 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.280 the you know, the two thousand word article things that 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.840 people would read and now everyone's on their phones, and 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.960 so they just want bam bam band, they want list, 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.960 they want quick. They went in out there. You know, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.960 they're commuting to work or you know, they have a 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.400 few minutes wherever they're able to look at it, and 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.480 they just want to be able to look at something fast, 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.920 get their content and move on. And so really the 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:54.040 idea of pivoting from when I first started, where we 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.400 used to have a schlew of writers who would write 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.839 these million word articles and they would just you want 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.319 to keep people on the side, make up sticky, get 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.000 him to the message boards. Back in the day, keep 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.640 people engaged on the site. Now nobody does that. So 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.760 the idea of getting people to the homepage doesn't really 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.600 matter because it's that it's all search engines. It's do 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.439 are do younger? S c O right. It's really more 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.080 technical because that was really where where Fox used to 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.360 help out more than anything else where. I could write 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.480 an article on CFN and we get traffic. If Fox 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.800 took it would be great. If Fox put it on 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.720 f MSN, it would go ballistic. So it really just 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.600 depends you have everyone's writing good stuff. It just depends 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.440 who gets to it and how they can see it. Yeah, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.839 and you also, I know on your website, I don't 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.360 know how many user you but do you pick NFL 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.880 games too? Like you be handy handicapped the games in 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.800 the NFL, not just college football. Yeah. You know. The 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.400 weirdest part about all this, I think our biggest traffic day, 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.480 maybe ever at least since we've been with the USA 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:59.040 and a platform, has always been the Wednesday slash Thursday, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.040 right before March madness, you know, I mean, just it's 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.320 crazy how we again s c O who gets the 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.160 right algorithm and stuff to happen, and it just happens 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.480 to be. Our site has sort of clicked in with 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.000 where people go to our site now when it comes 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.200 to picks predictions on the right day, and those have 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.520 always been the biggest stuff, so even college basketball stuff, 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.960 but really the NFL. You know, as much as I 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.360 love college football NFL, I'm actually pretty more fluid in 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.640 a lot of ways. Uh. And last year during COVID, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.680 when it looked like there wouldn't be a college football season, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.120 me and a couple other guys really sort of got 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.040 a couple of guys help me out. We pivoted Chafts 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.960 and said all right, well, we're just gonna be all 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.000 NFL just to try to get us through the season. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.120 As it turned out, just as many people wanted to 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.440 see NFL picks and they want to see college picks 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.560 and same sort of thing. As long as you don't 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.560 have to engage people for that long. If they want 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.640 to get on okay, like who's gonna win tonight New 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.160 Orleans or Dallas? Bill, get getting get out and move 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.400 on with it. So hey, more intent the better. Yeah, 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.800 And now do people I do a bit on my 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.400 radio show, which I've done on the internet too, is 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.240 benny versus the penny? Now do people give you a 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.200 hard time? Do they bust your chops to? Don't if 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.480 you don't get to pick right pete? Are they well 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.680 you gotta is it? Is it that? Or they'll leave 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.240 it alone on that. It depends on how wacky I 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:23.280 try to be. I get Usually I will always get 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.280 tagged if there's something just wrong, like if there's something 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.960 factually incorrect, which drove me crazy this year because, for example, 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:36.320 the n c A official stats site was wrong and 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.880 on their stats on a couple of certain things throughout 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.920 the year. They just didn't have it quite plugged in, right, 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.720 So whenever we go through the tea and the game 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.280 previews and then do one final check to make sure 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.280 things are right with the n A Stats site because 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.720 they're usually the side of record. Well, the Cincinnati fans 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.920 let me hear about it. When I wrote like the 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.960 three words or something about the Cincinnati pass rush just 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.400 being okay, and I based it mainly off of and 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.120 say stat site when they were wrong, it was my 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.000 own fault for not checking out elsewhere, then I will 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.840 hear it. But if I really diff a call or 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.520 a pick alright something. Every once in a while I 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.600 get something, I'll really hear it when I do something 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.200 really stupid, like picko House steak to beat Alabama the 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:21.280 National Championship last year. But hey, I'm all, I'll put 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.200 it out there. I will gladly take it when we 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.800 get it wrong. We get it wrong, and uh that's 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.240 part of the game, that's part of the front and 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.480 all this. But uh, the other thing too, which is 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.520 awesome and crazy about this compared to the even the 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.920 Fox days, is people aren't quite as nasty as they 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.560 used to be when it comes to miss picks. And 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.000 I do have a theory that people's iron anger have 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:46.280 turned more towards more real things, like political things and 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.360 real world things. So the idea of oh, you got 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:53.000 this pick wrong, the venom isn't quite there like it 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.320 was back in say, the early commit two thousand's, as 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.440 it's been over the last you know, four or five 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.680 years or so. Oh yeah, to do though, if you 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:04.000 want to upset people just mentioned Republican or Democrat, boom, 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.000 everyone will explode in a fitteration. You want to You 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.400 had a great point, and you've you've done this, You've 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.679 talked about this before. But the college football this is 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:17.000 a big weekend in college football because championship weekend and 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.639 all that and conference championship games, and you pointed out 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.960 how much better this could be by spreading it out, 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.920 and and it's everything is pretty much being played within 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.199 the same few hours. And so as you have correctly 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.720 point out, you we can't really watch everything, right, Peter, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.760 I mean this is a mistake in college football. Will 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:41.720 it ever actually be rectified? Yeah, you're you're talking about 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.160 is right? When I point it out where I don't 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.600 get it. I know, networking TV guys, I've talked about 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.840 this with college football playoff people at the highest levels. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.120 I've talked about this with network people, and they all 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.320 have their actual reasons. Obviously there's a site that these 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.480 people aren't dull. They have a reason are putting the 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.680 games on when they are. But the problem is, for example, 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.400 who's going to watch the American Athletic Conference Championship when 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.320 you have the Big twelve Conference championship at the same time. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.360 Who's gonna watch the a c C title game where 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.600 the Big ten championshipside at the same time. You know, so, uh, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.040 you have all these games that like in the MAX 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.600 figured out, they have the hot action stuff. There's a 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.840 reason why I can talk about traffic before. Traffic for 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:29.320 for Central Michigan Eastern Michigan on a random Tuesday night 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.840 is massive because all the degenerate gamblers out there, which 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.120 I say, the perfection, Uh, we're gonna go check out 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.480 that picks. That's the only think going on on Tuesday night. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.080 So for the conference championships, there's no reason why the 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.520 MAX should not be playing their championship game on a 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.280 Wednesday night. People will watch that. You know, I know 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.119 there's NFL on Thursday, but you could also have like 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.280 a sun Belt championship. That would get his viewership too. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.800 When you have a blood of games on Saturday, people 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.880 are just gonna want to watch the biggest, big games 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.640 and they're not gonna flip around and watch them all. Yeah, 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.280 and I had those same conversations like in the NFL, 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.240 because they play everything, you know, the one o'clock eastern 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.719 window and then the four o'clock Eastern window, and they 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.119 could spread that out and but the you know, the 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.720 same thing, the same thing. Oh no, you don't. You 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.920 will not change my red zone habit, red zone fan 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.720 at the red zone as someone who's completely converted, who 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.320 cannot sit and watch a full NFL game without other options. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.160 At this point, I need more options in the four 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.719 o'clock late game hour because after those first step first, 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.520 this mash up of games is so awesome, and then 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.439 when you only have like two games, and if the 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.560 Lake Monster game turns out to suck, it's like, wait 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.000 about I want five or six other options at this point, 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.600 so that I kind of get, but they don't really 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.960 have that red zone option. They've tried it with college 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.840 doesn't quite work out as well. Yeah, it's it's there's 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.639 too many teams, right, and that's the problem with college football. 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.199 It's still spread out, and and it's a different animal 0:19:56.240 --> 0:20:01.199 because obviously fantasy makes a difference. Uh, you'll never have that. 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.879 There is a fantasy element of some you know, creaty 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.800 people like myself in college football, but obviously it's not 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.639 even one of the same as it is, Uh in 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.560 the NFL side, where you want to you know, flip 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.240 around the game, game, game, game game. I need to know. 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.639 I might live in Chicago, but I sure as shoot 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.000 care about you know, what's appening with two and done 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.600 in Miami, and you know, if I'm going against Russell 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.760 Wilson up in Seattle and all around the rest of 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.080 the world. And plus obviously on the betting side of things, 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:33.960 NFL is a whole other weird animals opposed to college football. Yeah, 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:35.399 and as far as some of the other stuff going 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.720 on in college fotball, has there ever been a coach 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.480 who decided to get a different job that was not 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:47.440 met with a mob holding pitchforks and torches as they left. 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.560 We've we've seen that that's been a theme this week 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.639 in college football, where the fan bases are insane and 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.720