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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never sold all of

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Speaker 1: our justin field stock. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm here in

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Speaker 1: the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. We've got our red pens

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Speaker 1: out because we're going back to school today.

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Speaker 2: We're giving grades for free agency.

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Speaker 3: It's really back to school because I don't have my pen.

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Speaker 1: I need to go back to school because I haven't

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Speaker 1: even introduced my co host Patrick Claibohn and Jordan rod

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Speaker 1: Rieger with me.

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Speaker 2: Hello, we're back.

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Speaker 3: We're back, thankfully because Greg, we have the cleanest bathrooms

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Speaker 3: in the world in this facility. Yes, because of the repetition.

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Speaker 3: And Greg was walking back from another way and saw me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because I you know, I'm a creature of habit. I'm

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Speaker 3: thinking we're at a different time. Greg's like, hey, you

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Speaker 3: know we're doing this right now. That's why I'm here, Yes,

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Speaker 3: right now. That's why you don't have your pen. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be loose. Though I don't want to get carried.

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Speaker 3: The grades are not that important. It's more of Okay,

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Speaker 3: we had the big week of free agency. I almost

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Speaker 3: feel like this may be just personal, but for this

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Speaker 3: almost feels like just a quiet little start of the

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Speaker 3: off season. To me, the regular season is definitely winding down.

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Speaker 3: It actually feels a bit like of a sprint from

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Speaker 3: the season to the combine to now, and so I thought,

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Speaker 3: this is a good time just take stock of what

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Speaker 3: each team has done and do what Jordan Rodrigue loves

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Speaker 3: to do, which is, you know, evaluate things and put

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Speaker 3: a number on them and rank them.

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Speaker 2: They're not really ranked, but.

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Speaker 4: Greates famously definitely don't clinch up at the thought of ranking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't take the grades too seriously. It'll be

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Speaker 1: similar to when we go around to each team. We

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Speaker 1: were gonna hit every AFC team on the show. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hit the NFC a little later in the week.

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Speaker 1: It's been a few minutes on each team, and let's

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Speaker 1: start with Justin Fields and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Let's start in the AFC West in general.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Kyler Murray potentially being that guy who

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Speaker 1: and we don't know there's a chance Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: ready for Week one. We really have no idea. But

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Speaker 1: if not, Justin Fields is going to be there. They

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Speaker 1: sent a twenty twenty seven sixth round pick to get fields.

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Speaker 2: I love that for him, I love that for them.

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Speaker 1: What we're going to do, though, is with each team,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna present to you the offseason so far before

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Speaker 2: So that was the last thing that the Chiefs did.

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Speaker 1: But they also signed Kenneth Walker of course, twenty nine

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Speaker 2: They bring back Travis Kelcey. That was fun. Kiris Tanga

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Speaker 2: is a member of the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: The defensive tackle hasn't played a lot of snaps, but

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Speaker 1: he is now going to be in their line fourteen

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Speaker 1: Trent mcduffee, you get a huge draft haul for him.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Watson, Brian Cook. They're gone.

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Speaker 1: They also lost some lesser players, at least in terms

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Speaker 1: of impact, Isaiah Pacheco, Charles Amena, Who, Gardner Minshew. There's

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Speaker 1: still a ton of their players that are unsigned that

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Speaker 1: Field's move. It's a lot, I'm throwing at you. You're laughing.

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Speaker 1: Why because people don't want their free agent?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would like a pen because Greg said Gardner

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Speaker 3: Minshew and it made me, Yeah, that he congratulates to

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Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew, not just for the contract, but that you

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Speaker 2: Was very important.

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Speaker 1: There are some people that just don't get included in

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the fields of it all before getting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're able to get the value there and

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Speaker 3: I would give because that's not considering the constraints. It's

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 3: Look, yeah, I would like to not be relative to

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Speaker 3: You can't do that forever, and like there's a reason

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Speaker 3: I feel better about Cook's addition to the Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 3: Like we feel good about those things. I can't also

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Speaker 3: I felt it would have been good for Kyler.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a little bit of a patchwork

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Speaker 4: ways that he could absolutely be a value add here.

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Speaker 4: Especially you know, this was a Chiefs team that was

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Speaker 4: last season. This could be something that like sort of

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Speaker 4: talking about changing your scheme quite a bit around a

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Speaker 4: and to your other point about the secondary, they clear

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Speaker 4: then the veterans that they added there at least set

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Speaker 1: In terms of the talent, Yeah, they need cornerbacks like

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Speaker 3: Matt and Maggie kind of kind of dodging some yes,

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Speaker 1: That well, him not being mentioned, he should take as

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Speaker 1: a slight. I take their constraints as a real thing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say be minus.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I gave him a B plus because they did

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Speaker 5: Well said, it's all just things. Don't forget that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 2: And there I am doing it.

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Speaker 1: That's a challenge. They did re sign a handful of players,

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Speaker 4: I don't think they are. It's interesting. I did a

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Speaker 3: And and I realized there's two players who will be

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Speaker 2: But you know, playing at home, I forgot introduced a.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot on his shoulders. It's it's heavy, like

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like fail him or anything because they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the circumstances, I have to. I have to go

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Speaker 4: Because I like their team, plus because I like their

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Speaker 2: Clearly, the Raiders their next.

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Speaker 1: They get very similar contracts. Quay Walker gets twenty eight

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Speaker 4: However, I do I really appreciate you explaining that to me.

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Speaker 2: Greg.

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Speaker 5: But I'm saying twenty four million.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of money society.

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Speaker 1: It's aggressive spy tech. He's cooking. They're sending out memes

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Speaker 3: But you know, well, when you have the worst record

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And they could have used that thinking

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Speaker 1: They think they spent that money on defense in part

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Speaker 3: I'm in ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good job done, Spy Tech.

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Speaker 4: going to be blockers. They're going to be move players

438
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Speaker 4: and gap changers and It's going to be fascinating to

439
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Speaker 4: see what they do. You're maximizing one side of the

440
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Speaker 4: ball in particular, and trying and trying to make sure

441
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Speaker 4: that you do have just enough depth to get you

442
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Speaker 4: through this year. They did try to have just enough

443
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Speaker 4: depth to get them through last year on the offensive line,

444
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Speaker 4: and then a position catastrophe happened. So I'm a little

445
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Speaker 4: on the fence with have they done enough for their

446
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Speaker 4: offensive line depth specifically, But we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: They tried to design Zion Johnson. It sounds like they

448
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Speaker 1: were very competitive and just the Browns went over the top.

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Speaker 3: Hey, they're able to retain bringing back Trevor Penning.

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Speaker 4: So oh, I remember that one. Remember that one day

451
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Speaker 4: that he played left tackle. Me and Patrick and Gregor

452
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Speaker 4: in the newsroom watching in and every time, and I

453
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Speaker 4: was watching the Jaguars on one screen and the Chargers

454
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Speaker 4: on another screen, and every time I went, oh, Trevor,

455
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 4: which one? Which one? And came very clear, very quickly.

456
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Speaker 3: I don't know how many counterbids there were in that one.

457
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Speaker 3: If it were an overall off season grade. Yeah, you know.

458
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Speaker 3: Now Southern left Coast Mike mac is the biggest acquisition

459
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Speaker 3: of all I would be able to make that.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I'm hearing from the committee. No, they're not allowing

461
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Speaker 1: the coaching moves to be included in these grades.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I can't can't do it. Got a dingham

463
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Speaker 3: in terms that maybe we see more of a Mike

464
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Speaker 3: mac influence in terms of the draft, because I know,

465
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Speaker 3: like you could you could pencil in, you know, somebody

466
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Speaker 3: that ran in the low four fours, high four threes

467
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Speaker 3: to come into this backfield. But they bring back command

468
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Speaker 3: of Vedelgo Trojans. Yeah, kind of loaded there in that position.

469
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Speaker 3: So I don't think that necessarily changed. I don't know

470
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Speaker 3: how much or there can be to change or to

471
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Speaker 3: improve this this overall grade song, but to be low okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, look, guys like McKay beck then, and guys

473
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Speaker 1: who aren't in my one oh one for instance, are

474
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Speaker 1: just gonna be out there. Mc kay beck then a

475
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Speaker 1: year ago at this time, I'm just using him as

476
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Speaker 1: an example, was good enough to get like a twenty

477
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Speaker 1: million dollar contract, and now he's just gonna be free

478
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Speaker 1: floating out there. And there are guys of that level

479
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Speaker 1: that can give you that sort of ten million plus

480
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Speaker 1: dollar of year value that will be out there, So

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a team that needs it

482
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Speaker 1: because defensive line they are a little thin Dalvin Thompson was,

483
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Speaker 1: and in the secondary I think they're a little thin,

484
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Speaker 1: especially at safety. I'm not in love with this all.

485
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Speaker 1: And since you missed that you wanted Zion and you

486
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Speaker 1: didn't keep them, I'm gonna go seventy six.

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Speaker 4: I am going B minus eighty.

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Speaker 2: Jordan's definitely gonna have the highest grade point average. He's

489
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Speaker 2: the easiest why.

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Speaker 4: I am a very positive person, greg so, but I

491
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Speaker 4: also I want to correct something I said earlier to

492
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Speaker 4: adafe Oa is currently their only comp pick and he

493
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Speaker 4: is the third rounder. Obviously reportedly, these are not official yet.

494
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 4: Nick Corte over it over the captains, this is a

495
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Speaker 4: good job with that. But they're being very conservative while

496
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Speaker 4: hanging on for dear life for that third rounder. That

497
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Speaker 4: third rounder I know that they think is going to

498
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Speaker 4: turn into somebody who's going to be a core piece

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Speaker 4: for them in the future.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If not for Khalil mac I would be in

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Speaker 3: the sixties, be seventy two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. It doesn't surprise me that Patrick.

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Speaker 2: I just love all the he.

504
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Speaker 1: Expects a lot out of his students. He deserves excellence

505
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna demand it. Let's take a break. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna come back and do the AFC SAP. This is

507
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Speaker 1: a fun, fun little exercise, a big one on a

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Speaker 1: Monday back on NFL Daily. I don't know if we've

509
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Speaker 1: ever led with the AFC South. I feel like they're

510
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Speaker 1: always second or third. There will be a day that

511
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Speaker 1: we lead with the AFC soup. They deserve it, but

512
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Speaker 1: today is not that day. They are going second. The

513
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Speaker 1: Houston Texas, we traded for David Montgomery. They gave Reid

514
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Speaker 1: Blankenship sixteen million dollars guaranteed three years, twenty four million.

515
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Speaker 1: They signed Logan Hall. I don't know if that made

516
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Speaker 1: it ever onto the show from the Bucks in like

517
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Speaker 1: any defensive player, I just assume he's going to be

518
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Speaker 1: great with the Texans. You know who didn't really agree

519
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Speaker 1: with you was the rest of the NFL. Because he's

520
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Speaker 1: a guy on entering his second contract that listen got

521
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Speaker 1: paid very little money.

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Speaker 4: John Ledyard thinks he's a great player, So I'm on

523
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Speaker 4: team John Ledyard for the Bucks analysis, there.

524
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Speaker 1: Could be getting better offensive line. They signed man there's

525
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Speaker 1: just a lot of in, there's a lot of out.

526
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Speaker 1: They signed Braden Smith, the former Colt that can play

527
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Speaker 1: tackle or guard. They signed Evan Brown over the weekend,

528
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Speaker 1: who might be a kind of a fill in interior

529
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. They re signed Trent Brown and Ed Ingram

530
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Speaker 1: at Ingram got paid a lot of money. On the

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Speaker 1: other hand, they traded away Titus Howard. They traded away

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Speaker 1: Juice Scruggs. They also extended daneil Hunter their pass rusher,

533
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Speaker 1: in dult Sults their tight end, for one year each.

534
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Speaker 1: They re signed a couple defensive contributors Nakwon Jones, Sheldon Rankins, EJ. Speed,

535
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Speaker 1: and a lot of their players are still free agents

536
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Nick Chubb, Derek Barnett.

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Speaker 2: Just to throw out a few ones.

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Speaker 1: They have thirty one million dollars in cap space that

539
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Speaker 1: is fourteenth in the NFL, so plenty to do some

540
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Speaker 1: more work if they want. What do you make over

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Speaker 1: all of this offseason so far.

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Speaker 3: Patrick, in terms of the things that they needed to improve, I,

543
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe I got to delve a little bit

544
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Speaker 3: more into my offensive line understandings that I'm not necessarily

545
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Speaker 3: seeing it. I don't know that the pieces around the

546
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Speaker 3: quarterback are necessarily going to improve things that much for CJ.

547
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Speaker 3: Stroud considering just just in purely free agency, So I

548
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Speaker 3: gotta go relatively low here. You know, Dave Montgomery, you.

549
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Speaker 2: Can throw it.

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Speaker 1: We've been throwing out the grades at the end. You

551
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Speaker 1: can do it early if you want. There's no rules,

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Speaker 1: all right, seventy six.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I kind of like, I mean, I just don't

554
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Speaker 4: have any questions about their defense. I never at this point.

555
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 4: I just I trust them to make the right decisions

556
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: for their defense and on their defense. And so obviously

557
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Speaker 4: a couple of the moves that they made their blanket

558
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Speaker 4: ship and haul like they're not stars right by themselves.

559
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Speaker 4: There are guys that compliment a system or compliment stars

560
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 4: very very well. And I think that's exactly what they

561
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Speaker 4: were going for here is sort of part to whole

562
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Speaker 4: signings versus go after somebody with a splash even though

563
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Speaker 4: they do have the money to do it, and them

564
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Speaker 4: bringing in David Montgomery to be in tandem with Woody Marx.

565
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Speaker 4: By the way, locally, someone maybe Seth Payne, can help

566
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Speaker 4: us with this. Someone locally came up with the nickname

567
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Speaker 4: Woody and buzz for Woody Marks and David Montgomery. I'm

568
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Speaker 4: looking to cite that person. I don't know who it was.

569
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Speaker 4: I just saw it floating around. So if it's you

570
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Speaker 4: and you're listening, please let us know. I love that

571
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Speaker 4: nickname and them doing that makes me absolutely know that

572
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: they're not done with their offensive line. Braden Smith I

573
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: think should play guard. I think he could be really good,

574
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Speaker 4: especially in zone blocking. And I just I think they're

575
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Speaker 4: still fiddling around and figuring that that phase out. And

576
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Speaker 4: maybe they just, you know, understood that they couldn't do

577
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: everything at once, especially in free agency, and maybe they're

578
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Speaker 4: looking trade, maybe they're looking draft to keep boosting that area,

579
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Speaker 4: because that's the biggest question for me. Is their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Still Yeah, and they traded one of their best offensive

581
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Speaker 1: linemen and Titus Hoard, But on paper, Braiden Smith is

582
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Speaker 1: now one of their best. So it's similar ish Montgomery.

583
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Speaker 1: Does he have to be part of like a like

584
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Speaker 1: a cartoon cartoon combination nickname everywhere he goes?

585
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Speaker 4: Well, they're going to use a two back system. They

586
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 4: love what he Marks absolutely love him.

587
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Speaker 1: They want to be doesn't he deserve to have his

588
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Speaker 1: own nickname? Why they always got to be the sidekick

589
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Speaker 1: in a cartoon.

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Speaker 3: I would make the case that the entire narrative of

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Speaker 3: the Toy Story franchise, if what he wasn't so sold

592
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Speaker 3: fish and jealous of Buzz's acquisition, that you know, everything

593
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: would have gone a lot better. Everybody probably would have

594
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Speaker 3: gone to college and everything would have worked out.

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Speaker 2: I have a confession to make.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen Toy Story, what for any of the

597
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Speaker 1: toy stories.

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Speaker 3: It's understandable.

599
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: And he hasn't seen Monsters Inc. Either, which is a

600
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: really really great, a really great lesson about corporations.

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Speaker 1: I think rat Tattoo is the only Pixar and Wally

602
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Speaker 1: the yead I've ever seen.

603
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Speaker 4: Rat Tattooy creditable.

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Speaker 1: I'll give them. I'll give him an eighty. That's kind

605
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Speaker 1: of my like, eh, yeah, they exist. Do more if

606
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Speaker 1: you guys want better grades, be more active.

607
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but I again, I don't look at it

608
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Speaker 4: as just in a vacuum. I've given them an eighty

609
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Speaker 4: five because I think they're going to go after somebody.

610
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Speaker 4: I really do think that, like they're that they're not

611
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: done here and they love their skill guys already like.

612
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Speaker 2: A big trade or something.

613
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I like, you can't be done with

614
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Speaker 4: your offensive line. I mean, I don't buy it for

615
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Speaker 4: a second than a Cassario's things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, on paper, this is they can be done

617
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Speaker 1: because it's about the same quest they went into last

618
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: year with and as Nick Cassario said, that was their

619
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Speaker 1: best offensive aligneman. And while we're not watching the same

620
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Speaker 1: film that he is, I mean, they were okay, but yeah,

621
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Speaker 1: they're probably going to do in the draft at this point.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, they.

623
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Speaker 3: Made their formerly like very good and promising quarterback look worse.

624
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Speaker 1: That's not good, uh, speaking of been a quarterback has

625
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Speaker 1: been promising at various times. The Indianapolis Colts brought back

626
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Speaker 1: Danny Dimes and Alec Pierce for roughly seventy four million

627
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: dollars per year combined. That's why we're describing I know,

628
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Speaker 1: I decided to kind of combine them.

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Speaker 5: No, I wonder what Greg thinks about this.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just like it's just a tricky situation is

631
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Speaker 1: that they're you know, you're bringing back a similar team,

632
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Speaker 1: you're losing some players, but you're paying those two guys

633
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Speaker 1: way more money. I considering how they end, I just

634
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Speaker 1: think it made sense in the end. I don't really

635
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Speaker 1: hate either deal on its own. I just think expectations

636
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Speaker 1: need to be managed. They end up signing Michael Clemens

637
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Speaker 1: to a three year, seventeen million dollar contract only seven

638
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Speaker 1: million dollars guarantee.

639
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Speaker 2: That didn't look as bad really a one year deal.

640
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Speaker 1: Arden Key is a pass rusher that got eleven million

641
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed.

642
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Speaker 2: Both those guys well Key signed before.

643
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Speaker 1: They would have lost out on Trey Hendrickson, but really

644
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: felt like that put a dent into their offseason. Ian

645
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Speaker 1: Rappaport said they appeared to be in pole position for

646
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson and lost out him. So it makes you

647
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Speaker 1: wonder if they could do something else here, like in

648
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Speaker 1: a trade. Mostly there aren't big free agents out there,

649
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Speaker 1: so forty two million dollars in cap space, they are

650
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: fifth in cash spending, so they've spent a lot of money.

651
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Speaker 1: They basically gave up on Michael Pittman. They would have

652
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Speaker 1: cut him. They just moved up like fifteen spots in

653
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Speaker 1: the sixth round. They traded Zaire Franklin to the Packers.

654
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Speaker 1: They lost some key contributors, Quddy pay, Nick Cross, Braden Smith.

655
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: They all played a lot for them. And just wanted

656
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: to point out Lakwan Treadwell and Jonathan Owens, mister Simone

657
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Biles are on this team.

658
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: Shot to mega Kwan, I know, still getting re signed.

659
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Speaker 1: That was one of those where they put the the

660
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Speaker 1: team announcement. I was just like, yeah, Laquon Treadwell getting

661
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: resigned as a special teamer in the first couple of days.

662
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: You are now missus Colts Jordan.

663
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: And it's always Colleen till the end of y I

664
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Speaker 4: need that's true.

665
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Speaker 1: Yeah, true, we do over indexcellent coult defend your cults

666
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: if you feel like you need to.

667
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, they still need questions to be answered

668
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 4: along their offensive line, and they absolutely have questions to

669
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: answer in their past rush. I don't expect them to

670
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 4: be done with either of those things. I don't think

671
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: there's free agents now available, like you said, Greg, who

672
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: are actually going to be like day one factor like

673
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: I absolutely improve or answer all these questions. They have

674
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: to look at a combination of trades and or picks,

675
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: you know, them willing to be in on Trey Hendrickson

676
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: says a lot to me because first of all, the

677
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: ripple effect of that Max Crosby situation. We'll probably be

678
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: finding out what that actually was for months to come

679
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: and in terms of which teams were navigating in different

680
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: ways predicated off of that move. But I, I don't know.

681
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 4: I feel like everybody spent a lot of time freaking

682
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: out over these contracts, and I just I just I

683
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: can't muster the energy to do that. I feel like

684
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: they actually gave themselves a relatively conservative contract situation in

685
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 4: totality with Daniel Jones the words up to one hundred

686
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 4: or million dollars.

687
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: It's like a one year deal. It was fine from

688
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: a team perspective. If it goes poorly, they can cut them.

689
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: And also like he's like the fifth lowest paid once

690
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford's deal gets done, he's like the fifth lowest paid,

691
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: like franchise starter in the NFL. And then even less

692
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: so once all of these guys who come do this

693
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: season come up, then you can decide how much you

694
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: actually are gonna invest in this guy. Oh and by

695
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 4: the way, that's when you'll probably know, not early in

696
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: the season, but late in the season you'll probably know

697
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: how he's really coming back from that Achilles. It's just

698
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: they've just bought themselves time while also locking in like

699
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: the franchise player, which is Alec Pierce. So it just

700
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: to me, it just makes sense. A lot of it

701
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: they have they have, don't get me wrong, but this

702
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: does make sense to me.

703
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Those two teams, those two moves in a vacuum do

704
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: make sense. They're almost the ultimate running a back team

705
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: because I don't even know where their holes are. Like

706
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: they are expecting Jalen Travis, their fourth round pick at

707
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: right tackle two step in and be their starter. It

708
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: like Ashton Dulin. Maybe that's not a guy you want

709
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: to start. Otherwise you basically have all the entire team

710
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: back from a year ago. Arden Key might be the

711
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: one new guy that is starting at this point for

712
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: this team. It's just if running a back is good enough.

713
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: This is this is nick Crossy racer too uh to ignore. Well,

714
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: you know, we don't want to do that.

715
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: Especially that's a good point.

716
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot about the safety spot there.

717
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: You know, because we've seen coach Louse defense be very

718
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: good and have a safety leave and oh everything falls apart.

719
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: So I want to acknowledge that. I you know, obviously

720
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: as a Alex Pierce Homer, early early adoptee and Alex Pierce,

721
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm all about that. The Dimes contract, as you guys said,

722
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: is is capable. I just for my grade, I need

723
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: to know, Greg, if you felt as though that if

724
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals did not passionately hate Kyler Murray and

725
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: they had decided to send that tweet five days or

726
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: six days before they ultimately did, waiting until the very

727
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: last second to do so, if Kyler was a real

728
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: possibility here to allow Dimes to have fully functional body

729
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: parts before he plays football, do you think that could

730
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: have been a possibility. If so, I have to I

731
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: have to grade lowly because yeah, you can get out

732
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 3: of it, but you also want to have a viable

733
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: team that plays and this is a significant injury that

734
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: they need to be ready to deal with. And if

735
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: there were quarterback options available, then yeah, I got a

736
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: ding ballad for not fully seeking those outs.

737
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: I think I would have given them more credit for

738
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: doing it than I will ding them for not doing it.

739
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: There's never any reporting whether it was considered. I think

740
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: I think they like Riley Leonard, and with that in mind,

741
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to give him.

742
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: A seventy eight.

743
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm giving them a seventy nine.

744
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's lower than I expect.

745
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: Ause I didn't want to quite go be just there's

746
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: so much uncertainty. I wish they would have given had

747
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: I wish they do have more clarity.

748
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: I would have liked one more splash because I'm just.

749
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 4: And on defense. Their defense just fell through a hole

750
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: in the floor last season, and I just haven't seen

751
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 4: enough so far to say to argue that, hey, they've

752
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: done enough in that phase. And they tried.

753
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 5: Yes, they tried, but you know, gold Star, you tried

754
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 5: got worse.

755
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree.

756
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: Pretty poor at linebacker too. I really misspoke when I

757
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: said they're just running back. I think they'll make some

758
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: more moves, but like I said, they've spent a lot.

759
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: It's time for the off season ride along presented by

760
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: Toyota the Jaguars. They have only made one outside signing.

761
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: It is the running back Chris Rodriguez. I think, what

762
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: did we call the Basil Tuton fan club, Jordan, Yeah,

763
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: touton Hive, the Tuton Hive, the root and Tutin's been

764
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: a good off season for him, I think because Tuton

765
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: is is gonna be RB one. Chris rod is a

766
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: good player who I think will have a role, but

767
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: otherwise not much to talk about with them. They re

768
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: signed Buster Brown. They gave him twenty point six million

769
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed on a three year deal. There's a lot

770
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: of like three for thirties to three for thirty six

771
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: is around the NFL. They re signed Dennis Gardeck and

772
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: DJ Dallas. They lost Travis et Gen, Devin Lloyd, Greg Newsom.

773
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: That trade didn't work out for them, that trade they

774
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: made mid season. I don't mind the process of that

775
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: Greg Newsom trade, by the way, because you might get

776
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: a compic and you gave it a shot and it

777
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: didn't work out for you.

778
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 2: They are seven.

779
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: They have seven million dollars in cash space not much

780
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: right now, twelfth in cash.

781
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: They were first in cash last year.

782
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: And I think that really informs what I was talking

783
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: about before, which is I think teams have cycles where

784
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: like it's a year where you're making a ton of

785
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: moves and then a year where you're stepping back and

786
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: you have a bit of a three to four year plan.

787
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: To Jordan's point, that's what good organizations do. I think

788
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: this was always going to be a quiet offseason, but

789
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give them extra credit for that. I'll

790
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: I'll just give him an eighty right off the bat, Like,

791
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: I get it, this was your season to got to

792
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: take a step back.

793
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going into lower seventy seventy four in terms

794
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: of just again, I recognize the circumstances, but did you improve?

795
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: Did you get better through free agency? And the Panthers

796
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: and the Saints got a little better in terms of

797
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: what they're able to do where you had two very

798
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 3: good pieces on both offense and defense of a very

799
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: good football team. And not to slight the folks into vault,

800
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: but I think everybody recognizes that they haven't gotten better

801
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: through you know, recovery and you know injury luck and everything.

802
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: They could be a better football team at the end

803
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: of the day. But I think it's a downgrade from

804
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: HM to the Tutin and obviously with Devin Lloyd in

805
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: the season, he had got to feel like that's a

806
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: downgrade as well.

807
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to give them an eighty five because I

808
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: think that the best thing that they possibly could have

809
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 4: done this offseason was not pat themselves on the back

810
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 4: too much for what they just accomplished and continue to

811
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 4: push aggressively and stretch and kick the can down the

812
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 4: road a little bit further, like we've seen teams do

813
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: in the past. Instead, they went super conservative. They're going

814
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 4: for the comp pick game, understanding that they have to

815
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: refill some of these positions that are aging out on

816
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: their roster. What team, you know, really loved to get

817
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: metal round picks that turned into bona fide starters The Rams,

818
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: Obviously James Gladstone was the figurehead of orchestrating those things

819
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 4: behind the scenes with less sneed. This is absolutely the

820
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: formula that they're doing. They're basically saying, we are getting

821
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: rid of the guys that maybe we don't think either

822
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 4: are going to always be full time contributors with We

823
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 4: saw when Bachil Tutans snaps increase A chan was amazing

824
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: last year. I don't please don't take this as a critique,

825
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: but we saw the amount of snaps that were increased

826
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: with Bachil Tutin and then also this franchise that will

827
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: keep doing again following a very similar pattern, drafting running

828
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 4: backs every single year that will contribute and keep them

829
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: cost controlled essentially, and then kind of getting rid of

830
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: rid of a couple of guys that didn't work out

831
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 4: Greg Newsoen being one of them, getting rid of veterans

832
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: Johnny Mont Devin Lloyd, who we love but is somebody

833
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 4: who they weren't even committed to in the first place,

834
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 4: and playing the compic game. They didn't do anything that

835
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: was outside of basically, they didn't chase outliers. They basically

836
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 4: we like, we aren't even an outlier. We have to

837
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: stick to a plan and I like that.

838
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: If anything, they're running back more than I would expect.

839
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Eric Armstead is still on this team. I

840
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: think they're setting up contracts that they could sign in

841
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: the future, like tre Von Walker stands out to me

842
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: as one of them.

843
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: And they made some of their moves early.

844
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: The committee decided the cole Van Lannon contract from last

845
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: year doesn't count even though it's late in the year,

846
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: but that was essentially a free agency and signing.

847
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 5: I like the Buster Bround contract too, that was, I mean,

848
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 5: what a find that.

849
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: Worked out for them, and Hearing himself a lot of money,

850
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: and the Jacobe Meyers acquisition that was like a free

851
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: agency or a trade move early. That was the off

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Speaker 1: The Titans much more active. They signed Alante Taylor for

856
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: three year sixty million, forty two million dollars guaranteed. Amazing

857
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: that I Alante, who is so high on my free

858
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: agency like top twenty five that I did last August,

859
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 1: get the bag.

860
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: Cordill Flock getting thirty two million dollars dollars guaranteed. Thank you.

861
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: I think I made it happen.

862
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: Cordill Flock getting thirty two million dollars guaranteed is almost

863
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: as surprising. Three for forty five. They definitely paid a

864
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: Titans tax with a lot of these contracts. Jonathan Franklin

865
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: Myers gets forty two million dollars guaranteed. Three for sixty three.

866
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: They signed a bunch of other defensive players, Jacob Martin,

867
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: Josh Williams from the Chief, Solomon Thomas was traded for.

868
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: They traded for Jermaine Johnson, who's gonna start. And yet

869
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: despite all that, I think they still could use an

870
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: edge and they might draft one at fourth. Overall, we'll

871
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: see check out forties in free agents this week. We

872
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: talk about that Daniel Jeremias as an intriguing number four

873
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: overall pick in his new mock on offense. Wandale gets

874
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: thirty eight million dollars guaranteed. Essentially, that's a two year contract. Bellinger,

875
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Bellinger from the Giants The tight End gets fourteen

876
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. I thought that was a bad contract. Slotman,

877
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: the former Giants Safe Center gets two million dollars. Two

878
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: for seven. Mitchell Trubisky. Over the weekend, they kept Calvin Ridley,

879
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: so that's that's pretty big news. I thought he might

880
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: get cut. They lost Chigo Konquo, they traded to Andandre Sweat.

881
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: They cut Lagarious Need, they cut Lloyd Cushion Bear. You're

882
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: still sitting out there despite all that, they still lead

883
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: the NFL in cap space.

884
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing?

885
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: They did truly incredible.

886
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: They do it through a formula that works. It's signing

887
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: friends and people, you know, which was the upset to

888
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: me for Lante Taylor, where he's the acquisition that he like,

889
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: Nice to meet you guys. Everybody else knows these.

890
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 4: Dudents to fairpoint, that's what Greg did for me.

891
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: You know, same she you are so much more than

892
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: a Lante Taylor to me, Yeah, all respect to the him.

893
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: He can play multiple spots. You know, good player, he's fun.

894
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: This is maybe the toughest great because do you just

895
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: give the team that's almost like the most active a

896
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: high grade?

897
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but what do you give them? What do

898
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: you give them?

899
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 4: He's in Why, I'm going to just go in the middle.

900
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to give them a B minus. Because they

901
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: had to do this. They had to spend. First of all,

902
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: they spent in terms of their total contract some they

903
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: spent two hundred ninety eight million and then some change

904
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 4: on just these new contracts. It's like something like twelve

905
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 4: free agent contracts in totality, right, and that's that's they

906
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 4: still have.

907
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 5: Seventy two million leftover. They had to spend.

908
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: They had to do this. They had to reset multiple

909
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: floors within their roster. And it was so clear that

910
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 4: it wasn't just that they're paying the Titans tax, they're

911
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 4: also paying the Hey, we really need you to come

912
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: in and reset our culture and our identity, and we

913
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 4: already know you, and so we're just going to give

914
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: you more money because we really need your help here.

915
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 5: Guys like that. It makes a lot of sense.

916
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Because you're better than the guys on a roster. So

917
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: that's why I think I'll go a little higher. I'll

918
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: go like eighty seven because I think they did get better,

919
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: and I don't will they hate any of these contracts.

920
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 4: How could they not have gotten better after what that

921
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: roster looked like.

922
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: The Taylor and Cordel Flot contracts are the riskiest ones,

923
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: I think Wandale, I think you know what you're gonna get.

924
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: Jonathan Franklin Meyers, I think you know what you're gonna get.

925
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: The history of free agency would tell you that either

926
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: a Lante Taylor or Cordell Flot will age really poorly

927
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: because it's hard to hit on those contracts. But I

928
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: would have said that about the Patriots last year, and

929
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: other than Harold Landry, maybe all those contracts aged pretty well.

930
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: Do you feel differently about them having the benefit of

931
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: all of free agency in hansight to see that we

932
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: had these corners sunning one year deals around like ten

933
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: to fifteen million dollars, versus the Titans feeling like they

934
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: needed to be active or early on and go ahead

935
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: and lock up guys at corner because they don't necessarily

936
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: know what the circumstances are going to be like at

937
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: that time.

938
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they paid, They paid a little bit of a

939
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: premium flot especially. I mean clearly they're they're bidding against

940
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: the Giants. That's the reporting for that money to get

941
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: that high and Alonte Taylor.

942
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 2: There was a lot of bidding too.

943
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 5: Patrick, Are you laughing because you're imagining the room?

944
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I want, I want, I want Dave All

945
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: and you know, I just want to see the reunion.

946
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: It does make you a little worried because you don't

947
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: want to punish the Titans because in theory they're GM Borganzi.

948
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: It's his first year really running the team, but he's

949
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: been in the building for two years. It's a new

950
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: structure every year. Who knows, next year their GM might

951
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: be Brian Dable.

952
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: How about that exciting Balds.

953
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: Wait, did you give a grade?

954
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: Uh no, seventy nine.

955
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: Okay, the Ravens curious to hear Patrick's grade here. They

956
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: signed Trey Hendrickson sixty million dollars guaranteed he gets one

957
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve million over four years. Really more like

958
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: a two year deal. They killed the max deal that

959
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: was good for content I will give them an extra

960
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: points or two for that. John Simpson is that was

961
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: a very popular and sensible deal, seventeen million dollars guaranteed.

962
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: Former Jets guard that started his career with the Ravens.

963
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: They re signed Chadobe Awuzie for five million dollars. Tyler

964
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: Huntley got five million dollars over two years. His deal

965
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: was not nearly as good. That was one of those

966
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: that I was disappointed to see the real money wasn't there.

967
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: And then here's where their great gets tricky because they

968
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: didn't really add that many people. No, they lost Tyler Linderbaum,

969
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely, Charlie Kohler, Patrick Ricard, Aloie gilman Ar, Darius Washington,

970
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: the safety Draymont Jones who they had picked up last season,

971
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: David Ajabu and your boy Filele still out there, so

972
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: it was van neyd. They still they have thirty million

973
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space. They lost a lot of people.

974
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: How does that inform what you think about this offseason?

975
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: Well, it's nice that you know. Erica Costa at the

976
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: day after the Raiders let everybody know that the deal

977
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: wasn't happening, came out and told us what the plan

978
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: was right to to have both Max Crosby as well

979
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: as Trey Hendrickson. And you're gonna have a guy who

980
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: could do it all on one end, a guy who

981
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: could just rust the passlor on the other. Thing's gonna

982
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 3: be great. I understand. It's great to have plans, Yeah,

983
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: but you need to have plans to be able to

984
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: execute in the event that those plans don't.

985
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: Necessarily created on the execution planned.

986
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you have to to go that. And so

987
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 3: I'm seeing I'm seeing corners on a team that needs corners.

988
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: I'm seeing every like a lot of value corner signings

989
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: to where we're talking about the flock contract being, you know,

990
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: cost prohibitive. Why not why not become a player in

991
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: this in this two way conversation between Nashville and East Rutherford,

992
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 3: Like why.

993
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: Here's why not?

994
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Because they because they were busy with Max Crosby. I

995
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: do think that and Trey Hendrickson got in the way

996
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: of what happened.

997
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: Okay on a sourcier that happened in January, Like not

998
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: to rehash the whole thing, but nothing was a surprise here.

999
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Could could you have the biggest fault you can give him?

1000
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: I think is, could you have gotten them in him

1001
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: in for the physical on Friday or Saturday?

1002
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Why did it all happen Tuesday?

1003
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: Surgery was eight weeks ago. What's the physical showing you so?

1004
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: And Also I would say this, Uh, they they were planning,

1005
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: if they were planning, if if they were indeed planning

1006
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 4: to have both of these guys on their roster. Structurally speaking,

1007
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 4: the plan for everyone else remains the same. They still

1008
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 4: didn't sign a receiver. They still didn't sign corners. You're

1009
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: not just doing one thing. You're budgeting, you're gaming out scenarios.

1010
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: You're budgeting these things. So if that was actually the plan,

1011
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 4: then you're ending up with the same lack of play.

1012
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 2: That was the plan.

1013
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: Who knows?

1014
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: Like, like I.

1015
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 4: Said, he said it was a plan. We're talking about executions.

1016
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: I feel like.

1017
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: It was the plan if Trey Hendrickson was going to

1018
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: take a deal at a low number that they that

1019
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: they were hoping he would take.

1020
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm just saying, either way, they're not ending

1021
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: up with competitive pursuit of corners, they're not ending up

1022
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: with another receiver.

1023
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: Like.

1024
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: Either way, whether whether the plan was executed or whether

1025
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: and it wasn't either way. They're not ending up with

1026
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: the with players of need that they absolutely need. Yes,

1027
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: they also need to pass Rush help, but they need

1028
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 4: a lot, They needed a lot of things to continue

1029
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 4: to as they say they want to do, maximize Lamar

1030
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 4: Jackson's prime.

1031
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: I feel like there's some doubt here with how it's gone.

1032
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to give them. I think they wanted Linderbaum to.

1033
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 3: And it's good to want things.

1034
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's what I mean.

1035
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: But I'm going to ding them because they didn't get

1036
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: what they want and they get punished for it. Seventy

1037
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: six kind of low. Seventy yeah, uh ooh, sixty seven. Okay,

1038
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: I should be a hearder grater.

1039
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: I think that you. I think that you, like a

1040
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 4: lot of people, have an admiration for how the Ravens

1041
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 4: typically have gone about their plan, and you know, I

1042
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 4: just think we're we need to look kind of closely

1043
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 4: at these last two years and and what they need

1044
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: to be doing and the hump that they have to

1045
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: get over and Okay, let's see it.

1046
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: Last year was a disaster they've had. They've been a team.

1047
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: I just mean in terms of the decisions that they

1048
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: made and then what happened.

1049
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: That you go total things?

1050
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, three compics also that reportedly scheduled to get three compts.

1051
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 4: Good for you.

1052
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: Just in general, I think you could just as a

1053
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 2: as a world.

1054
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: It was kind of like, I don't know if you

1055
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: guys watched the Oscars on a Sunday night.

1056
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: Now.

1057
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: Conan had a pretty good joke that I'm going to

1058
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: butcher now, which was essentially like, you know, last year

1059
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: we were here in Los Angeles and in the city

1060
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: you know, was unfortunately like on fire at the time,

1061
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: but at least everything is good now. It's like, good

1062
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: call Bengals. Let's go to boy Mafiy's contract. They do

1063
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: this old school thing where everything is super front loaded

1064
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: and so they spend the cash early. They're kind of

1065
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: the opposite of what the Eagles are with all the

1066
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: void years and maximizing every dollar you can there. His

1067
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: contract's bizarre, three for sixty but it's twenty seven million

1068
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: dollars in the first year. Like there's almost no guarantees

1069
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: after that if for some reason it went really poorly.

1070
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: It's it's like a one year contract for boy Mafe.

1071
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen gets twenty six million dollars over two years.

1072
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: They re signed Orlando Brown. They brought in Cook at safety,

1073
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: who fills a nice need. Dalton Reisner comes back as well.

1074
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: They lost Joseph Assai and Trey Hendrickson. Josh Johnson is

1075
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: on this team, hey, yeah, which I was excited about.

1076
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: Him being the backup.

1077
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're leaving a light on for Joe Flacco,

1078
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: that they want Flacco to come and that it would

1079
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: be Flacco and Josh Johnson. That alone is worth a

1080
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: couple extra points. They have thirty one million dollars in

1081
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: cap space right in the middle. I mean, just the

1082
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: idea of Josh Johnson and Flacco, just like the way you.

1083
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: Say things sometimes, Greg, just like the imagery of like

1084
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 4: a candle.

1085
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it is that is in.

1086
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 5: The window along a dark lane, like the winds blown.

1087
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: Well, that's how they save on electricity too. They're doing

1088
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: all sorts of things at the facility.

1089
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what do we think?

1090
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: I think it's an improvement because in terms of production, right,

1091
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: Jonathan Allen was you feel like a square peg in

1092
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: a round hole in the floor as defense. But he

1093
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: was out there for almost eighty percent of the snaps

1094
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 3: and they did execute the offense and everything, not necessarily

1095
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: putting them in a position where they're going to have

1096
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: all of these counting stats, especially on the interior defensive line,

1097
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: but he makes them better in terms of adding like

1098
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 3: three veteran defenders where this whole like, yeah, we're just

1099
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: gonna draft guys and Al Golden is gonna lead. It

1100
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: didn't work out, and so like moving and improving on that.

1101
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: I gotta feel good about it.

1102
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: But they're still kind of doing it.

1103
00:51:59,120 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're still.

1104
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 4: Doing so it's like it was like I religiously read

1105
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 4: Paul Daner, who does a great job covering the Bengals

1106
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 4: for us at the Athletic and he said the same thing.

1107
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 4: It's like, man, that first day, we're feeling really good

1108
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 4: about the Bengals and they're making moves and they're being aggressive,

1109
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 4: and then it was like bomb, like just nothing and

1110
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 4: then just nothing, just a leaf.

1111
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: Slowly eventually they got no.

1112
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: I'm just saying they start that. I'm counting. I'm counting

1113
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 4: Jonathan Allen, I'm counting, Brian Cook, I'm counting. Way I'm

1114
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: off a. I'm counting those in that first like splash,

1115
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: this is gonna they're gonna fix this defense. What they've

1116
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: actually done now is again set themselves up to mostly

1117
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 4: draft to fix their defense. And on the one hand,

1118
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: it's it is like, are they doing the same Bengals

1119
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 4: thing that they've been doing. On the other hand, I

1120
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 4: under I kind of understand the perspective of operating that

1121
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: way because your entire investment now at this point is

1122
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 4: in your offense, and you basically are saying, we have

1123
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 4: to go maybe one premier player, maybe maybe pay one

1124
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 4: premier position in free agency, maybe two if if we

1125
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: can get a guy at the right price on a

1126
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 4: shorter deal, and and draft the hell out of everything else,

1127
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: and just and continue to try that model. And I

1128
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 4: think they've done that in this free agency period so far.

1129
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: I just don't know if it's gonna work.

1130
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: I'd like a little more, yeah, more like more swings

1131
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: so that you can miss some cause you're right, they

1132
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: have the same issues going into this draft that they

1133
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: had last time, like linebacker, interior, offensive line, third receiver

1134
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: in jet like they somehow you know, got Boy Mafe,

1135
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: who I really liked, was one of my favorite signings,

1136
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: and yet their pass rush is worse. There's no way

1137
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: you can argue that it's not worse because you lost

1138
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson and Joseph Asai.

1139
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, do you know who would really

1140
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 4: compliment boy a Mafe quite well?

1141
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 5: Is Trey Hendrickson? Like they could rush off of each other.

1142
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be good.

1143
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: I liked the Orlando Brown and Dalton Reisner moves, especially

1144
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: for then they were re signing, So I'm giving them

1145
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: a little bit credit there for the money. So I'm

1146
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: gonna bump it over, and I like Mafey and Cook enough,

1147
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him an eighty two in the end.

1148
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: Whoa nice.

1149
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: It's because I like the players. I just think they'll

1150
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: be hits ultimately. If like Cook and Mafe are hits,

1151
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm just going to project, then it's

1152
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: a good Then it's a good job at those spots.

1153
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 3: I'm in the I'm in the high seventies, seventy nine

1154
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: just because you know it's the same regime. So I'm

1155
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 3: gonna go back and ding you for not trading.

1156
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: So Josh Johnson is there, I'm going eighty four now,

1157
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: I just I just owed it up.

1158
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: You're up.

1159
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm going to see as in check.

1160
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: You need it you need a number, because now I

1161
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: noticed that Eric Roberts are are great producers putting the

1162
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: numbers in. But sometimes it's like Greg eighty seven, Patrick

1163
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: seventy nine, Jordan B minus.

1164
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: So that's it. You got to give a number.

1165
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 5: Well, don't blame Eric for my short.

1166
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It just looks wrong, so so

1167
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 1: help him out.

1168
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: I thought I thought the number would help us get

1169
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: a total.

1170
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, fucker, seventy five for the Bengals, and it's I'm

1171
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 4: bumping them up from what I would have had them

1172
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: because I do like the Move signing.

1173
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 5: I do like the Allen signing. I do like the

1174
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 5: Cook signing.

1175
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: I don't even like the Allen I don't know.

1176
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: But the Allen signing again, stop looking at things in

1177
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 4: a vacuum. It's a compliment to every other stuff that's kind.

1178
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: I will look at things some sponsorship for this.

1179
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: I just know he was a significantly defined, declining player

1180
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: in Washington. I think the Vikings gave him a bad contract.

1181
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: I think it's going to prove to be a bad contract.

1182
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: But they're not asking him to be a star.

1183
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: This is not I mean, I'm not saying a star.

1184
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying he wasn't like a great.

1185
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 3: They need competent defensive players.

1186
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: Yes, like the Browns, Like what are we talking about here?

1187
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 2: Like you got to be able to draft and develop.

1188
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: I agree there the Browns they signed four offensive line

1189
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: starters they needed to Elton Jenkins, they need five.

1190
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 4: He's gonna give him an a twenty million dollars because

1191
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: they did it.

1192
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: Patrick that Zion Johnson gets thirty two million dollars guaranteed

1193
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins on what I imagine a low cost deal

1194
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: with the numbers are now yet. Titus Howard, the extension

1195
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: was a little different than it was initially reported, but

1196
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: they're giving him a lot of money, thirty four million

1197
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. They also gave up a fifth round pick

1198
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: to get him from the Texans. That's the good news

1199
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: that they filled those spots. The bad news is they

1200
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: have a ton of holes on their roster. They gave

1201
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams nine million dollars guaranteed. Some people really like

1202
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: that move. Actually that you could have a bounce back

1203
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: season next to Carson's Questioninger, but they don't have much

1204
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: cap space. They have seventy seven million dollars in dead money.

1205
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: And fifty million dollars almost for Deshaun Watson. And so

1206
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money between dead money and I

1207
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: considered Deshaun Watson dead money, that's like one hundred and

1208
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: twenty six.

1209
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: So it's the same group that did this.

1210
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: They set up that horrible offensive line situation, and they

1211
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: lost Devin Bush, and they have a few free agents

1212
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: still sitting out there that are relatively high on my list,

1213
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: David and Joku Wyatt Teller. We don't know if Joel

1214
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: Buttonio is retiring, by the way, just throwing that out there,

1215
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: do you give him more credit for filling in their

1216
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: offensive line or not?

1217
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: No, I don't. They had they were going to have

1218
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: to acquire some humans right to do the the individual thing.

1219
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 3: And again we heard from the committee earlier, we can't

1220
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: consider you know, the the Rutenberg of it all and

1221
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: the the whole and antagonism that led to the Shorts

1222
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: departure and all that. Who knows what led into that situation.

1223
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: But Schweeszingerer now is going to have to play in

1224
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 3: some form of a different defense where they still needed

1225
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: to make the ads. And yeah, I'm one of those

1226
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: people who likes the Quincy addition, you saying those people

1227
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: makes me feel.

1228
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 2: Like you No, No, I think it. I just didn't

1229
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: know who it was.

1230
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: I think it was maybe John Ledyard as you mentioned,

1231
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: and Ali.

1232
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 3: Co Ogs who have NFL in their in their name.

1233
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: That's how you know they've been there for a while.

1234
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 4: I will not grade them high even though they did

1235
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 4: the thing that they were supposed to do, because they

1236
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 4: also set up the reason that they had to do

1237
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 4: the thing that they were supposed to do and then

1238
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: did there Whenever a Packer's lineman is not fought very

1239
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: hard by the Packers to keep my eyebrows raised because

1240
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: I do trust the way that they evaluate and retain

1241
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 4: their offensive linemen. So Elton Jenkins, he's a fun player.

1242
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 4: I hope it works out. I'm just not sure. I

1243
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: do like the Zion Johnson moved. They absolutely had to

1244
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: have somebody at the sort of the top of the

1245
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: pool here. But again, I can never I can't grade

1246
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 4: them well with the way that they're structured right now,

1247
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 4: with all that dud money, with Deshaun Watson's contract.

1248
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 5: And also they did this to themselves. All of this

1249
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 5: linemen came do at the same That's hard to do.

1250
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: I think it's like a bad student when we're grading

1251
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: them that has a history of year after year one

1252
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: of our worst students, unfortunately, and so you're not going

1253
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: to give them the benefit of doubt just because they

1254
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: wrote in a different style this year, you know.

1255
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: Do you know I was always the kid in elementary

1256
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 4: school that they would sit the problem kid next to

1257
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 4: because invisible labor. So like, I'm not giving them a

1258
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: good grade for the bars in hell at this point, I'm.

1259
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: Not giving them they do not have the benefit of doubt.

1260
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: And what I was surprised by when I sent out

1261
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: this idea on Twitter of like, Okay, they got these

1262
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, but they have all these holes and all

1263
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: this dead money and Watson it's a bad situation.

1264
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: Do they have a lot of holes?

1265
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: I think the roster looks pretty good And I was like,

1266
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: what what are we talking about here? I guess you

1267
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: look at the defense and feel like it's in pretty

1268
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: good shape. I think you could use a safety. I

1269
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: think you could use depth everywhere. But yeah, your receivers,

1270
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks. I would put running back as a hole

1271
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: because Quinn Chun Juggins, you can't count them. They have

1272
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: plenty of holes. And the offensive line is still a

1273
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: hole because you cannot count on these guys to laugh last.

1274
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's because they also they tried. I'll give

1275
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: them a sixty seven.

1276
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 4: Can I just point out they also didn't draft a

1277
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 4: single lineman last year, so they knew that all these

1278
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 4: contracts are coming up and they did not draft alignment.

1279
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: All right, I'll knock it down three more points. I'll

1280
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: give them a sixty four.

1281
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 4: All right, I'm giving them a sixty a d as

1282
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 4: in dead.

1283
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: Money, seventy Jenkins Jenkins prices.

1284
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 4: We're playing the.

1285
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: Price because I hated the Ravens free agency and I

1286
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 3: have to.

1287
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 4: Ah, I see ethics.

1288
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, the Steelers they moved up sixteen spots

1289
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: or moved down sixteen spots in the sixth round and

1290
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: acquired Michael Pittman.

1291
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: For that.

1292
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: I still want to see the details on his guaranteed money.

1293
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: It sounded like it was a new contract, not an extension.

1294
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: Just my spidy senses up of there might be some

1295
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: funny money, but it was. It was reported as three years,

1296
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: sixty nine million dollars. Sounds fine, depending on how it's

1297
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: structured for Michael Pittman. Jamel Dean that was one where

1298
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: the contract the deal does not look nearly as good

1299
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: for the player after seeing the details. It's essentially a

1300
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: one year, thirteen million dollar contract, I mean, and then

1301
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: they can keep them, which is.

1302
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 3: Again like my issue with these teams that weren't able

1303
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: to get corn.

1304
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: Yes, good point, like everything Jamal Dean did.

1305
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 3: There were like six weeks last season consecutively did team

1306
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: didn't complete a pass.

1307
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: The Steelers did really well waiting a day exact contract

1308
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: that the contract.

1309
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: That they gave. What was my grade?

1310
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 4: Just checking? Uh, just notice the.

1311
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: Titans, especially if you look at those cornerback contracts compared

1312
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: to Jamel Dean, that looks like a nice deal. They

1313
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 1: extended Cam Hayward. By the way, the Steelers sixteen million

1314
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed on a two year deal. They re signed

1315
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: Cole Holcom int the Sante Samuel Junior for very little money.

1316
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: They did lose some good players. Kenny Gainwell team MVP

1317
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: there it is forever more. He he has never been

1318
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: on the Steelers and not been the team MVP one

1319
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Isaac Sayamalu, who was a good signing by

1320
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: them a few years ago, leaves. James Pierre, who had

1321
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: a good year for them last year at cornerback, leaves.

1322
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: Calvin Austen is a member of the Giants right now.

1323
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: They also cut John new Smith. They're still waiting for

1324
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You got to just assume that they know

1325
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: he's coming back and doesn't want to do OTA's or something.

1326
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: They have twenty two million dollars in cap space. Your

1327
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: overall Steelers vibe.

1328
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 5: The Steelers overall as a roster.

1329
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 4: I think it's teetering toward decline in terms of the

1330
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 4: age and some of the money that they've invested in,

1331
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 4: especially in that defense. However, I really like what they

1332
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 4: did in free agency. I thought that they had a

1333
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 4: pretty solid free agency. It wasn't like the you know,

1334
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 4: the splashiest or anything like that. But bringing in Michael

1335
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: Pittman is awesome for them. He absolutely, to me, becomes

1336
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 4: immediately the volume number one receiver because of all of

1337
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 4: the different things he can do, how physical he is.

1338
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 4: He can do anything you ask him to do, and

1339
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 4: that also will then FREEPDK Metcalf to do the things

1340
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 4: that DK Metcalf really wants to do, which is stretch

1341
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 4: the field. So I love that. I like the Jamal

1342
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 4: Dean signing a lot. I'm excited to see what he

1343
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 4: does in this defense. Specifically, I give him a plus honestly,

1344
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: because the quarterback thing is always going to be sort

1345
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 4: of their dead weight question. We don't know even if

1346
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers does come back, we don't know what version

1347
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 4: of him it'll be. We don't you know, he's he's

1348
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 4: a player on the decline of his career. So absolutely

1349
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: huge question mark one I wish they would have answered

1350
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 4: in free agency, frankly, but we did learn from Omarkan

1351
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 4: that they love Will Howard as a possible you know,

1352
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 4: as the backup. They really really like him. Mike McCarthy

1353
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 4: loves him, and you know, we'll kind of just see

1354
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 4: how this goes if they try to run it back

1355
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 4: with Aaron. I actually I give him an eighty eight.

1356
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: Nice for there, And I forgot to mention Rico Daudo,

1357
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: by the way, replacing Kenny Gainwell on a pretty low cost.

1358
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 3: Deal, and so yeah, you lose a little bit of.

1359
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 5: That Rico on more screen.

1360
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rico wants to call the screen, you know, to

1361
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: great success, and you know he's had a success in

1362
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 3: the passing game, but as a receiving back. I think

1363
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 3: Kenny g was up there with the each ens or

1364
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: you know, if I could properly Louisiana pronounce it like

1365
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 3: Greg kN I can. Well I lean to you on that.

1366
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: But just the if I'm going thank you, Greg, if

1367
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to to grade them, I would be up

1368
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: there in the high eighties and where Jordan is. But

1369
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 3: the fact that we don't just say, hey, Aaron is

1370
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: coming back. He just doesn't want to. Why not just

1371
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 3: come out and say that, it's just it's just exalt it's.

1372
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: Fair putting us through it is we're not going through it.

1373
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 5: Well, he's we know he's in shape guys.

1374
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, got to keep his stamina right for the extracurriculars.

1375
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, other than that being annoying and the fact

1376
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: that the Steelers have had such a good free agency

1377
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 3: being annoying, Yeah, it's a it's an.

1378
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: Eighty five, Okay, I'll give I'll take Jordan's grade. What

1379
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: was it eighty eight? Yeah, I'll not get down one

1380
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: for the Rogers annoyance of it all. But I but

1381
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of forgot I really like

1382
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: their free agency because I kind of forgot Jawan Brisker,

1383
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: Darnell Savage, and Sebastin Joseph Day are all defended to

1384
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: solid players. And what I was gonna say, like when

1385
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: I would think about lowering the grade was well, I'd

1386
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: like to see them, you know, take a few more swings,

1387
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: like we asked the Bengals to of like, let's just

1388
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: let's just add a little more depth here. They are

1389
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: an old team that somehow got older, like in free agency,

1390
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: which is hard to do with Jamel, Dean and Pittman.

1391
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: But they they kind of fit the model. But like

1392
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: they have a type, Sebastin j fit. Sebastin Day fits

1393
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: as well. I'm gonna bump it back up a point

1394
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: now that I thought about him, It's back up to

1395
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: eighty eight. Let's take a break our last one. We

1396
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: have four teams to go. The first time we've done

1397
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: this sort of exercise. I give us an a minus.

1398
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 3: Nice.

1399
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 4: What's the minus four so far?

1400
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 2: Just a little carrot? Yeah for you to.

1401
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 3: Improve ho boy, don't want to get the stick.

1402
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily.

1403
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: Shout out to Darius Slagh who retired since we started

1404
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: taping the show. Great career, Yeah over indexed in memorable

1405
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: plays memorable press conferences being in big Spot. Was a

1406
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: very good player too, a first team All Pro and

1407
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: a part of the Eagles championship run in twenty four Happy.

1408
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 4: Trails, absolutely phenomenal. Quote on anything love Dariusly.

1409
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: He did not want to be a member of the

1410
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills last year. What a way to retire be like, no,

1411
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm not showing up there. Didn't want to be part

1412
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: of what was going on. Maybe he would not give

1413
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: Brandon being a good grade for this offseason. Here's what

1414
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean did. Traded a late two for DJ Moore.

1415
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: They did get a fifth back in that trade. For

1416
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: what it's worth, they guaranteed fifteen point five million dollars

1417
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: of DJ Moore's twenty twenty eight money, which is absolutely

1418
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: knocking him a couple points. That was one of the

1419
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: most unnecessary contractual moves.

1420
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: I think any team made.

1421
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: The swim Bradley Chubb on a contract that doesn't look

1422
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: quite as bad when you peak under the hood, but

1423
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: isn't great. Three for forty two million dollars twenty one

1424
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed d Alford. This slipped under the raidar

1425
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: was a Day one signing. Surprised about that, But again,

1426
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: the money wasn't nearly as bad as the agent sort

1427
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: of made it out to sound. With the up to

1428
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: it's really like a one year, seven point eight million

1429
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: dollar contract.

1430
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: That's fine.

1431
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern thirty one million dollars guaranteed. They re signed

1432
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: him that age pretty well. As free agency went on,

1433
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: extended Dawson Knox a few years. They signed CJGJ. Kyle

1434
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: Allen I believe is going to be their new backup quarterback.

1435
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 2: Alisia is right now. They did lose some players.

1436
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: David Edwards signed with the Saints, they traded to Ron Johnson,

1437
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: Reggie Gilliam, their fullbacks gone. They have a ton of

1438
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: free agents still out there like Joey Bosa, aj Epanessa,

1439
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: Matt Milano, Shaq Thompson, Larry Ogenjobi. There's actually like five

1440
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: or six more guys you recognize that just haven't been

1441
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: signed by those teams. Sin Epanessa could add to eighteen,

1442
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: possibly even the Buffalo Bills. So we'll see on paper

1443
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: they have negative cap space, which is not a thing

1444
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: that's allowed. So you know, these things are in process

1445
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: and part of what's maybe informing that Jordan is there. Second,

1446
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: this year in cash spending. So they are spending a

1447
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: lot of money in cash for this roster. Considering where

1448
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: we were in January, where we are now, how do

1449
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 1: you think it all looks for the bills?

1450
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 4: I am looking at over the cap right now and

1451
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 4: it is interesting. It's negative six point four million in

1452
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 4: cap space, but actually the effective cap space is even

1453
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 4: lower in the negative right.

1454
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: So a lot of these contracts we haven't seen the

1455
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: numbers and it'll change, yeah.

1456
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 4: But it's like the fact that that number is higher.

1457
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 4: It's like they're looking at some of the deeper layers

1458
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 4: of the contracts over the cap is and they're saying, actually,

1459
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 4: you have even less money than you think you do.

1460
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 4: So I think it's this is fascinating to me because

1461
01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 4: this is a team that, by all aunts and moves

1462
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 4: they made in terms of coaching staff and the trade

1463
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 4: for Dj Moore, it was like, we are going to

1464
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 4: be all in, We're going aggressive and all these things.

1465
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 4: And then it's like, oh, they look at their books

1466
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 4: and they're like, maybe we actually can't be as.

1467
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: Aggressive, and yet they gave that money.

1468
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 4: I thought we could be and and Bradley Chubb being

1469
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 4: I would say like probably one of the more middle

1470
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 4: tier pass rushers that was that was available in free agency.

1471
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 4: They have a lot of holes. I have questions about

1472
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 4: even their offensive line, usually a strength of the group.

1473
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 4: David Edwards was a great continuity guy there. Aaron Kromer retired.

1474
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 4: I have questions there. I have questions all throughout their secondary.

1475
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,919
Speaker 4: I have questions up front. I have questions at pass rush.

1476
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 4: This is a team that has too many questions to

1477
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 4: be this in the red financially.

1478
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the biggest question is because you

1479
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 3: go from this defense that we've seen all these guys

1480
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 3: playing it from such a long time, the same guy

1481
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 3: calling it, you know, through various stints as as the

1482
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: head coach of the Buffalo Bills, or he would come

1483
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: in and out of defensive play calling where Jim Leonard

1484
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 3: is everything's gonna be different. And I think we see

1485
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 3: that in like the Johnson departure where d Alfred comes

1486
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 3: back in from a very aggressive like d Alfred's played

1487
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 3: in multiple Falcons regime, and this last one was so

1488
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: blitz happy where it's you can put d Alfred in

1489
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: a lot of situations He's gonna be able to execute

1490
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 3: at a high level where you're trying to grade this

1491
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 3: relative to the changes that they're having on defense, where

1492
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 3: the offense is gonna be mostly the same with the

1493
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: addition of DJ Moore. I feel relatively good about it,

1494
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 3: considering they did address their needs in some capacity. Did

1495
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 3: they go about addressing those needs in the right way?

1496
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 3: Maybe not, But in terms of the talent on the field,

1497
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 3: I think it's an improve.

1498
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1499
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 4: I think it's like Brandon Bean's like, I got you

1500
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 4: your damn receiver. Now everyone look away, right.

1501
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they went about it the right way

1502
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: because when you have such limited space and you're spending

1503
01:10:55,479 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: all this cash, they are a remodeling, they're not rebuilding.

1504
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: But I think they could have stood to be a

1505
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: team that was very active, attacking a lot of different

1506
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: positions in the lower middle of the market. Instead, they

1507
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: gave Bradley Chubb a ton of money for a declining player,

1508
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 1: and they gave Dj Moore a ton of money in

1509
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: guaranteed money and a pick. I'm giving them a sixty seven,

1510
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: and that's.

1511
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 4: What tells me that internally they feel so much more

1512
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 4: urgent than a remodel would require. And maybe that's the

1513
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 4: wrong direction. Maybe leaning into the remodel would have been

1514
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 4: the smarter decision. But that those moves right tell me

1515
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 4: how urgent people in that front office feel that they

1516
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 4: must win, they must get over the hump here. Yeah,

1517
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 4: and those two are not necessarily congruous thoughts like maybe

1518
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 4: maybe it's not just about what you think you are

1519
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 4: or how urgent you feel that, but really what you

1520
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 4: actually are and really.

1521
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: Looking at that honestly, what do you give them? Oh?

1522
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 4: I give them a sixty five.

1523
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: Ooh, I love it. They're in contenent for lowis.

1524
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 4: I love, I love the deal.

1525
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

1526
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: I will say that seventy three would be I think

1527
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: I could have made the case for keeping Edwards and McGovern,

1528
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 3: like if you want to maintain on the offense and improve,

1529
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: you know, considering the money went elsewhere. But I understand

1530
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 3: choosing McGovern over Edwards, but why not both?

1531
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 4: I don't know I'm gonna bump them up to a

1532
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 4: sixty eight because I didn't really. I do love the

1533
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 4: DJ Moore move.

1534
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: I think he could have a very good year. And

1535
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: it's not a good move.

1536
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: It's one of my overall just considering everything that was

1537
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: out there potentially, so yeah, sixty eight, they're not going

1538
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: to score.

1539
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 3: Well.

1540
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: Miami really interesting offseason. They have the most free agent

1541
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: signings in the NFL. Malik Willis is the only one

1542
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,440
Speaker 1: that got a significant amount of money, though his contract

1543
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: was very heavily guaranteed. Forty five million dollars of his

1544
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: sixty seven was fully guaranteed, which essentially means it's a

1545
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: two year contract, not at crazy money, but they're pretty

1546
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: committed into the second year. I'm just gonna list off

1547
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: the guys that they need, I mean that they signed.

1548
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: You guys, ready, let's do a great you could You

1549
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: could do this at two point five speed if you want,

1550
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: if your podcast device has that capability. Here we go

1551
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: to two out Well, Jalen Tolbert, Ben Simms, Jamari Sawier,

1552
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: Matthew Butler, Robert Beale, Seth Coleman, Willie Gay, David Ajabu,

1553
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 1: Joshua Uch, Cameron Good, Zane Anderson, Alex Austen, Darryl Baker,

1554
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: Miles Battle, Omar Brown, Lonnie Johnson, Marco Wilson, Tucker Addington,

1555
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: Zaane Gonzalez, Riley Patterson, and the UFL punter Seth Vernon.

1556
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: That list was that order was provided by Simon Clancy,

1557
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: who I called the game over in Dublin with great

1558
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: great uh Dolphin's voice out there. They cut Tua, they

1559
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: cut Bradley Chubb, they traded Minka, They lost Cater Kohu

1560
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: and alec Ingold in free agency. They don't have much

1561
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: cap space there towards the bottom of the league.

1562
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: Overall, it all makes sense to me. I don't know.

1563
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they're better, but the process makes sense

1564
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: to me. So I'm gonna give them like a because

1565
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: they signed Malik Willis, which I wanted someone to do,

1566
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: and I like that Connor. I'm to give them an

1567
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: eighty nine just for process.

1568
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, eighty two for going and getting your guy. Everything

1569
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,440
Speaker 3: else is just kind of a wash.

1570
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: But I like the idea of like they had guys

1571
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: they targeted for whatever reason, and they're just flooding the system.

1572
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: Some of these will work out and that will be

1573
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: with the team when they matter. Most of them obviously won't.

1574
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 4: It's a sprint rebuild. They're eating all of their dead

1575
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 4: money at one time. Well over the next two years,

1576
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 4: they're sort of splitting it. There was some reporting out

1577
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 4: of Miami Herald about the way that they pulled.

1578
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: Inwat they have forty plus million dollars of two into

1579
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: next year right where.

1580
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 4: They can sort of reallocate it a little bit. But

1581
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 4: they didn't fear the dead money. And I think that's

1582
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 4: important here because they yes, they signed eleven free agents

1583
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 4: to your point, Greg, but they're still like twentieth in

1584
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 4: spending of free agents. And that's significant here because what

1585
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 4: they're doing is they're basically saying, we have our quarterback

1586
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 4: on a team friendly deal, and we think there's a

1587
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 4: high ceiling there. There's a definitely a high floor. We

1588
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 4: also have multiple difference making players on offense, so we're

1589
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 4: gonna be fun, We're gonna score points regardless. And the

1590
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:15,440
Speaker 4: defense is a total rebuild. And everywhere else you're patching

1591
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 4: low cost veteran acquisitions or low cost in general acquisitions

1592
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 4: to basically set space and to contribute while these draft

1593
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 4: picks are developing. And that, to me, there's a blueprint

1594
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 4: for this. It's the forty nine ers, It's the Rams,

1595
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 4: it is the Bucks from a few years ago. It's

1596
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 4: teams that don't fear the dead money and instead say,

1597
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 4: who do we have, what really are we and how

1598
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 4: can we actually make this whole rebuild go a lot

1599
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 4: faster by keeping certain players intact and adding to the

1600
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 4: quarterback room.

1601
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 5: And then getting rid of the things that don't serve

1602
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:49,879
Speaker 5: us anymore.

1603
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: And they don't have quite as much as those teams had,

1604
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: But it is crazy. In the twenty twenty four playoffs that,

1605
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: like most of the good teams had, we're among the

1606
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: league leaders in dead money, which was great. Like the Ams,

1607
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: the Packers, the Broncos made the playoffs with the Russell

1608
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: Wilsons did it money.

1609
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: Their defensive players are intriguing.

1610
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: They drafted, you know, they like Jordan Phillips, who is

1611
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: a nose tackle, a fifth round pick, like they have

1612
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: Chop Robinson still there. They they're not as far away,

1613
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: but they're they're pretty far away.

1614
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 4: I didn't give them a grade either because I'm giving

1615
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 4: them an ay too, because I think this plan works

1616
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 4: if you do it right, if you can coach, you

1617
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 4: have the right coach to front office tandem, if you

1618
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 4: are are identifying the correct players in the draft. And

1619
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 4: that's a big if. But this is absolutely, very clearly

1620
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 4: the plan, and I appreciate how they're executing it so far.

1621
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: It's the easy part of the process. You got to

1622
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: find the good players. That's that's the hard part of

1623
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: the process. But it also makes sense the way that

1624
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: they're doing it, and who knows, they might win too

1625
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: many games if they got the coach right, and that

1626
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: would be good form, lake Willis, because then you don't

1627
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: have to worry about the quarterback crop next year. The

1628
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: Patriots not as active this offseason, but plenty active. Verah

1629
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,480
Speaker 1: Tucker Elijah Vera Tucker gets to twenty one million dollars guaranteed.

1630
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: He also gets the most per game roster bonuses ever.

1631
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 1: We think it's like almost five million dollars a year

1632
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: in just like playing. So if Vera Tucka plays that,

1633
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: his contract really goes up quite a bit. Romeo Dobbs only,

1634
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: I say only, But to me, it's only got thirty

1635
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: five million dollars guaranteed. It's all in the first two years.

1636
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: Draymond Jones, for instance, got twenty three million dollars guaranteed.

1637
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: Those are basically two year contracts they signed. Kevin Byerd,

1638
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of funny money in

1639
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 1: his up to nine million dollars that my guess is

1640
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: it's probably half of that or something. They cut Stefan Diggs,

1641
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: they cut Anthony Jennings, they traded their center Garrett Bradbury.

1642
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: They lost their safety Jalen Hawkins, they lost Kyristanka, they

1643
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: lost kleb On Chason, they lost a lot of people

1644
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: that played a lot of roles for them. And most importantly,

1645
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: they have forty one million dollars in cap space and

1646
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: this weekend, the stop and shop bag that was bought

1647
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: I think four years ago when I was visiting my

1648
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 1: parents in Massachusetts was brought back out when I went

1649
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: to the beach with my kids. Now that me and

1650
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: Mac have like a personal connection, we like we got

1651
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 1: to use that old Mac stop and shot bag that

1652
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: only costs two dollars back in the day and.

1653
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 2: Use that as our beach bag. Just call it a

1654
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: but it's.

1655
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 4: Not a tote the Mac Jones tote.

1656
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 3: That's what's a tote.

1657
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 2: A tote bag, but that's more like cloth.

1658
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: This was like a if we if we have to

1659
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 3: call it like.

1660
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: I think there's a.

1661
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: Difference between a tote bag though, and a grocery bag.

1662
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: And this is like a grocery you know, you're reusable.

1663
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: It's a it's a big ass bag. That's why it's working.

1664
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 4: So it could tote a lot.

1665
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: It could tote a lot, but you wouldn't want to

1666
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: be like walking down the street in London.

1667
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 2: I think with it over your shoulder.

1668
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 4: Why not not.

1669
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: As fashionable as maybe like one of those books bags.

1670
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: You know, that's a tote. What got those two?

1671
01:18:59,000 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 3: A book bag?

1672
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 2: People though? People know?

1673
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah you No, it's like a bag that you buy

1674
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: at a bookstore.

1675
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: That's like a book bag, like a book that's where

1676
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: you get your toe Oh.

1677
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: To show everybody that that you read books.

1678
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: No, that's just you get that's what keeps the books

1679
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: that you just bought, you know. That's it's a strand

1680
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: strand sort of a bag with books in it. Not

1681
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: a book bag, no, because that means something else.

1682
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: People are running on the strand, Greg, people are running

1683
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,799
Speaker 3: and walking a lot of books.

1684
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: The strand I'm talking about in New York the years performative.

1685
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 4: Am I right?

1686
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: What do we think about the I don't know what

1687
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: to think about the I like you, I like it.

1688
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: It seems fine. Yeah, it seems good.

1689
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: You get some of the band back together, Rabel embyered.

1690
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 3: I think Romeo Dobbs is a good addition, a solid

1691
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 3: edition to this team.

1692
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,959
Speaker 1: And I mean I think we've picked the old Titans

1693
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: Rabel stuff, you know, dry a little bit like that's

1694
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: not really something that I'm not excited about that part

1695
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: of it, Like the Harrol Landry thing for.

1696
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: He was a huge part of.

1697
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 3: Over it.

1698
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, two kids, I know, I'm with you. I I

1699
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 4: He's just he's a total, quintessential rable guy. I love

1700
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 4: it for him. The thing that I love the most

1701
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 4: is the Romeo Dobbs signing. I just think he is

1702
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 4: an absolutely wonderful fit here and basically just takes over

1703
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 4: this stuff on Dig's roll and probably and then some

1704
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 4: just such a high volume target somebody who is is

1705
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 4: gonna continue to grow and evolve. With Drake May the

1706
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 4: young quarterback like this, this was a fantastic pairing. If

1707
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 4: this is not one of the more productive pairings in

1708
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty sixth season, I will be very surprised.

1709
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: Draymond Jones is a risk I guess because Seattle, Like

1710
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: that contract did not work out for him for them

1711
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: when he was in Seattle. But yeah, between these three contracts,

1712
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Dobbs and Vera Tucker are two of my

1713
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: very favorite I just like, I guess I looked at

1714
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: all the players that they lost, like those are those

1715
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 1: are significant.

1716
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 4: You're intentionally trying to make your voice a little bit

1717
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 4: more monotone talking about the Patriots. I've noticed of late

1718
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 4: because that's how excited you you are to be so

1719
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 4: back with the Patriots.

1720
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 3: They're back eighty seven.

1721
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I was gonna even go ninety, but I

1722
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to get accused of bias.

1723
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 4: Oh I'm giving us, so I had to go first.

1724
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 4: I'm giving him an A ninety flat A. That's an

1725
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 4: A minus. Well are you an A minus? Excuse me?

1726
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go eighty eight. Then let's go jet.

1727
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 5: I didn't get many of those, so hey, now I

1728
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 5: don't know what the numbers are.

1729
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 2: You didn't get a lot of A minuses.

1730
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 4: Please, I got a lot of E pluses.

1731
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: Greg, Oh, here we go.

1732
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 3: That's me. They didn't register very highly. Here we go. Great?

1733
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: Uh to Mario Davis fifteen million dollars guaranteed at thirty

1734
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: seven years old, two year deal. David Onyamada one year,

1735
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: ten million dollars. Nashon Wright only three and a half

1736
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,879
Speaker 1: million base salary. Joseph Asai gets twenty two million dollars guaranteed,

1737
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: very similar to the Draymond Jones contract. They traded to

1738
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: Andandre Sweat for Minca. I mean they traded for Tovandre

1739
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: Sweat and for Minka Fitzpatrick. They traded away Justin Fields

1740
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: for a late round pick. They acquired Gino and only

1741
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: going to pay him three million dollars. They signed Dylan

1742
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: par Him, which some offensive line guru said was among

1743
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: the worst starters in the league last year. They re

1744
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: signed some kind of back end of the roster guys

1745
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: that they like, Jolanni Woods, Andrew Beck, Max Mitchell. They

1746
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: lost John Simpson. Their offensive line is supposed to be

1747
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: great on paper, but they did lose their two great guards,

1748
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: John Simpson and Vera Tucker. Quincy Williams. They were happy

1749
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: to say goodbye to him. They traded Jermaine Johnson. They

1750
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: still have forty million dollars in cap space despite all

1751
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: that movement. They're actually twenty seventh right now in cash spending,

1752
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: so they're not spending a ton of cash this year.

1753
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: I really didn't like what they were doing on defense

1754
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: Day one. I like it a little more with time

1755
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: because they had to do something, but I just don't

1756
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: like the situation that they entered into January with It's

1757
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: tough for me to look past what's going on with

1758
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn and Darren Mougy.

1759
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 3: But they the addition of Nashan Wright, like I've got

1760
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 3: a very high grade here and again, which causes me

1761
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 3: to pull you know what, remaining hairs on the male

1762
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 3: pattern baldness heead of mine. I have out that Nashwan

1763
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 3: Wright has such a great year where he's turning the

1764
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 3: ball over so much and playing at such a high

1765
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,480
Speaker 3: level in that second and then only warranting this particular

1766
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 3: deal with the Jets, where it's just another corner signing

1767
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 3: another one year deal. And I have to, you know,

1768
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: not to defend the transition tag and the franchise tag

1769
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 3: as which I normally drive as cost control metrics. I

1770
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 3: think the compensatory pick formula and the way that that

1771
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 3: kind of generally lowers the floor for veteran compensation as well.

1772
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 3: I need to start pointing that out as a cost

1773
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 3: control metric as well. But the fact that you can

1774
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 3: get Nashan Wright for what you did I got I'm

1775
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 3: in the nineties for the.

1776
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: That's fascinating to me. You know what's interesting. It just

1777
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 1: occurred to me, is like, no one paid these Bears

1778
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: guys in the secondary Jawan Brisker didn't get paid, Nisan

1779
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: Right didn't get paid, Kevin Byer didn't get paid.

1780
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 3: That's the NFL making a statement on our sons discussion.

1781
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: They felt like the Allen soance was.

1782
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: Dennis true song, the dennisng They did say that, yeah,

1783
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: they're giving all the credit to Dennis Allen, which.

1784
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 4: Is hell, yeah, that's who we send the sscons to.

1785
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 2: That is a wild that you're giving an aid to

1786
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: the Jets. All Right, you're up.

1787
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 4: I'm giving a B flat B eighty five to the

1788
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 4: Jets because I see what they're trying to do. Like listen,

1789
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 4: I'm not giving them overly the benefit of the doubt.

1790
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 4: Like we understand, this has been a dysfunctional franchise for

1791
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 4: a long time. I understand that. But I see their

1792
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 4: plan and it is it is the same plan that

1793
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 4: a lot of these rebuilding teams have and also with

1794
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 4: familiar players to Aaron Glenn to say, hey, you want

1795
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 4: to reset a culture, you are going after guys that

1796
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 4: you are familiar.

1797
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 2: With, that you know.

1798
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 4: That's one part of it. The other part of it

1799
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: is some of The ages are very like eyebrow raising

1800
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 4: for some of these signings, but they're not cost you

1801
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 4: a ton of money, first of all, and also you're

1802
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 4: going to replace those guys with the mass amount of

1803
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 4: draft picks that you have, and you need these veteran

1804
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,839
Speaker 4: players to tell these guys coming in and to basically

1805
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 4: set a floor for all of these young guys that

1806
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 4: are going to be coming in to this roster over

1807
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 4: the next you know, several months to two years. Now

1808
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 4: does it predicate what's going to happen to the coach?

1809
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I still think he's he's unfortunately,

1810
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 4: you know, on the hot seat. But I absolutely see

1811
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 4: what at least the plan is for this, because you

1812
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 4: have to at least establish what the floor of your

1813
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 4: team is going to be.

1814
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,560
Speaker 1: I just worry with Onyamada and Mario Davis specifically that

1815
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: it's like one stop too far that they could just

1816
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: be huge liabilities and they have a coach that can't

1817
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 1: help them because he hasn't been shown to help his

1818
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: defensive players in a while. And it is kind of

1819
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: like the Browns that I'm grading them based on a

1820
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: little bit on their past as well, because I think

1821
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 1: it's going to affect their future, that the next regime

1822
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 1: is going to inherit these guys. And one thing that

1823
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: they did for him is that it won't be many

1824
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: long term deals that get in their way. But I

1825
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: would have liked, like if you gave me the Raiders offseason,

1826
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 1: like the younger, like investing in those sorts of players

1827
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: make more sense to me, Like Onya Mada is not

1828
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: a consistent player, He's been a like kind of a

1829
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: disaster for his team every second or third year.

1830
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 2: To Mario Davis is a pretty big gamble, I think

1831
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: at this, but.

1832
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: I think you get you get the known quantities where

1833
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 3: you know what they can do, and you get veterans.

1834
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 3: And if Kevin O'Connell, you know, the quarterback whisper gets

1835
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 3: the well he needs a veteran to be able to

1836
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 3: do this. This kJ McCarthy thing couldn't work because he

1837
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 3: had to do this. Then I'm going to give Aaron

1838
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 3: Glynn the credit of being a coach who's maybe better

1839
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 3: suited to play with guys who know what they're doing.

1840
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 4: I agree with you there, Patrick, And I also think

1841
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 4: that you're also signing guys you know what they're not too.

1842
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 4: You're not signing them to be everything. You're not signing

1843
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 4: them to even be plus two players. You're signing them

1844
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:01,839
Speaker 4: to understand what spots or what traits specifically are being filled,

1845
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 4: and you have you know exactly what they are and

1846
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 4: what they aren't, and then you go fill in what

1847
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 4: they aren't with your draft picks and also fill in

1848
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 4: guys that will eventually again replace these guys. That's to me,

1849
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:13,799
Speaker 4: it's very clear what their planet.

1850
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: They've been good and in terms of like the trade

1851
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: acquisitions to Adie Mitchell and Harrison Phillips last year were good.

1852
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 2: They were good with their draft. The top of their draft.

1853
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 3: I liked.

1854
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: It was their free agencys here he comes. It was

1855
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: their free agency though last year that was a dis bastard.

1856
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: Jamian Sherwood. Brandon Stevens was okay, ish, I'll give it

1857
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: a because they got Geno.

1858
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: There's I'll bump it up over seventy at least, that's all.

1859
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 3: We were getting close.

1860
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 4: He's toted his grade up over seventy seventy three.

1861
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 3: This free agency.

1862
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 2: You're getting a number.

1863
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 3: I forget.

1864
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 2: Yes, I did, oh yeah, you gave a B.

1865
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 3: We did it.

1866
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 5: We graded the entire and all the other numbers too,

1867
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 5: but you you.

1868
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,839
Speaker 2: There was like a couple that it was like B minus.

1869
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: You know, under the bus.

1870
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: We did the AFC. Now let's do the NFC. Like

1871
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: right now, let's have a three hour show. Hit the music,

1872
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: hit the music, let's get out of here. The next

1873
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 1: time you hear from us in this studio will be

1874
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: me and Jordan and Colleen on Wednesday.

1875
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 2: That's exciting.

1876
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: But you will hear from Daniel Jeremiah and US forties

1877
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,799
Speaker 1: and free agents in the Feed talking about his latest

1878
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: mock draft on Tuesday.

1879
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: This is a tree. The regular season never ends