1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: On November thirteenth, Felix Unga was asked to remove himself 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: from his place of residence. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: That request came from Roan Andanian. It's staggering how many 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: people that drive cars, young and old, male, female of 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: all sorts don't know how to open the hood. It's 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: beyond my comprehension, the car Doctor. When the snap on 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: truck pulls up outside the shop, it's like the Good 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Humor truck coming down the street. Here will o oh, 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: you enjoyed that? When Andy rushed out, when it was like, 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: eke my money? Did you ever see such? It's just amazing? 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: What's on it? I thought? I walked into an auto 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: park store. 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of Ronananian, the Car Doctor. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: the phone and call in the garage doors. 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Are open, but I am here to take your call 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: now he. 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: Running. 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: You know the odd couple theme there, Tom is very 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's funny. What triggers us as human beings. 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: It brings back memories. And when I was in college, 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: it would be you know, college all day, gas station 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: at night, pumping gas till ten o'clock, trying to study 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: out of the gas station at ten fifteen, and you know, 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: home by ten thirty and just in time for the 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: eleven o'clock rebroadcasts of The Odd Couple because by then 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 2: they were in reruns and Minny and Night. Spent typing 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: papers with my mom actually until one o'clock, the wee 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: hours of the morning, you know, because I couldn't really 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: type as good as I could. Mom was a great typist, 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: and you know, just that's how I got through college. 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: So you know, I hear The Odd Couple, I think 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: of that. It triggers that automatically. Hello everybody. I had 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: this really great open and I threw it away because 38 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I'm just going to kind 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: of ramble today because I just it's like I'm in 40 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: a rambling mood. It's there was a lot that went on. 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: It's hard to put into words, so I'm not going to. 42 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna comment and I might just wander 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: a little bit this hour. So feel free to give 44 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: us a quality five to five five six ninety nine 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: one hundred if you want to talk to me. But 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: we had all sorts of goofy stuff this week. We 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: had a Dodge truck, a Ram truck, and I swore 48 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to talk about this, but it's interesting, right. 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: We had this twenty twenty and it's still there. We 50 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: have a twenty twenty Ram pickup, long, long, long ram, 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: long horse something. It's the big version Ram pickup with 52 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: a five to seven in it, and it's got a 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: hard time filling it up with gas. You can't put 54 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: gas in the tank. It keeps burping off, it keeps 55 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: clicking off. So you know, due diligence. Right, you go 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: through there's no fault codes. Didn't expect when there was 57 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: no check engine light. But you know, we diagnosed the 58 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: same steps one through ten every time. Tell me what's good, 59 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's bad. And we ran through some 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: functional tests. Everything past functionality, no fault codes. Started reading bulletins. Boy, 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: it seems like Chrysler, Stilantis, Dodge, whoever you want to 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: blame for building this thing, sure has a bunch of 63 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: problems when it comes to putting gas in these vehicles. 64 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: I never thought that putting gas in a vehicle was 65 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: going to be such a problem. And the best way 66 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: I can explain it to you to get you in 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: the right mindset is the next time you have a 68 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: can of soda, go have a can of coke or 69 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: pepsi or whatever your heart desires, and you know you've 70 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: got one hole. Take that can of soda and try 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: rinsing it out under the sink. Try putting water in 72 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: the one hole, and you can't. It always bubbles right right. 73 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: It's because it builds up pressure because there isn't a 74 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: spot on the other side of the can to let 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: air out. And that's basically what a gas tank is 76 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: on a vehicle, right. If you go to put gas 77 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: in a vehicle, there has to be a way for 78 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: it to relieve pressure. There has to be a way 79 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: for it to let air out. And when a vehicle 80 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: keeps clicking the pump and you have to stand there 81 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: and hold it and click it and turn the nozzle, 82 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 2: and you know, whistle and stand on your head, and 83 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: you know, hope and pray, and you hope I get 84 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: gas in this car. The hole's clogged. Somewhere the hole 85 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: is clogged. So I went through bulletins, and bulletins talk 86 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 2: about different things. There's a bulletin for this particular ram, 87 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: this twenty twenty ram where Chrysler is talking about they 88 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: have problems with the fuel tanks, which I'm not really 89 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: sure how you can build a bad fuel tank. We've 90 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: only been doing that for well, I don't know. This 91 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: is twenty twenty three. Cars came around nineteen oh three, 92 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: eh so one hundred and twenty years of building fuel tanks, 93 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden, we don't have to 94 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: build them to the point where we haven't had a 95 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: build them for a while because it's not an uncommon thing. 96 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: So maybe you need a fuel tank. I checked into 97 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: that and hope the ven doesn't match. It's not the 98 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: right part numbers as listed in the bulletins, so I 99 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: could crust that off the list. Tell me what's good. 100 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's good. The next couple of bulletins, yeah, 101 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: they kind of didn't. They kind of didn't, you know, 102 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: make any sense. And I look through them, but I 103 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: because I have due diligence, I have to, And I 104 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: came to this one bulletin that I really enjoyed. It 105 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: just kind of made me chuckle. I have never in 106 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: my fifty one years of repairing cars had to do this. 107 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: I took a borscope. Now, a borscope is you know, 108 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: it's it's plumbers use it, doctors use it. They go 109 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: down your throat with the tracheotomy and so forth, or 110 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: when they want to go up the other end there right, 111 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: whistle and say Dixie. And you know. A borscope is 112 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: basically a telescoping camera that with a long tube and 113 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: it goes down a deep, dark passageway and it will, 114 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: you know, take a picture and show you what's up. 115 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: I want to take. They want me to take my 116 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: twelve hundred dollars borre scope and go down the gas tank, 117 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: go down the fuel fillerneck to see if there's any 118 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: obstacles or debris. And they don't really tell me what 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm looking for. They're just saying that, you know, if 120 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: there's any obstructions in the tube, replace it. Okay. I 121 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: go down about oh, I don't know it's the tube 122 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: is easily two foot long. I go down about nine 123 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: inches and there's a blob of something I don't know 124 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: where the blob came from. I have my own theories, 125 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: but there's a blob of something stuck to the side 126 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: of the tube. It sort of looks like a melted 127 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: cupcake on the sidewalk. Right, it's just kind of leaned over, 128 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: and it's clearly an obstruction. Let's start with one of these. Now, 129 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: this is the interesting part, right. This fuel filler neck, 130 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: which has got metal lens and clips and some plastic 131 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: hoses and a long rubber tube and two stainless deel 132 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: hose clamps, is about seventy bucks. You look at this 133 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: thing and you go, holy smokes, there's got to be 134 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars worth of material here. How can they 135 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: sell it so cheap? Well, my theory is the car 136 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: company sells some of these things cheap because they know 137 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: they've got a problem, and rather than get forced into 138 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: a recall because people complain about expensive things, they make 139 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: certain things cheaper. Just my black helicopter conspiracy cap coming out, folks. Sorry, 140 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: So I waited the two days. By now it's Thursday 141 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: and my fuel filler neck showed up, and Friday I 142 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: was able to get to the car. Because you're not 143 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: sure when the parts showing up so you're not standing 144 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: there waiting for it like. And of course that didn't 145 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 2: fix it, like I didn't think it would, But you 146 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: got to follow the bulletin. So I then went about, 147 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: all right, I know it's good. I know it's not 148 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: the neck. I know I changed the neck. I know 149 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: I foiled the bulletin. I did what the bulletin told me. 150 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: I no longer have an obstruction in the fuel filler neck. 151 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: But I've still got a problem. So now I have 152 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: to go down and I do some functional testing, and 153 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm reading through the process of what's left. So basically, 154 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: we know the fuel filler neck is good. We know 155 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: that when it goes into the fuel filler neck or 156 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: the top of the coke can, there's a check valve there. 157 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: There's a one way valve that allows fuel to go 158 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: in but not come back up the tube, all right, 159 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: And that's part of federal emission compliance. And then in 160 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: order to remember I said, you have to have you 161 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: have to be able to allow fuel to come in 162 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: and pressure to come out the other side. So the 163 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: relief side of the tank on this particular vehicle is 164 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: controlled by something called the MFC, the multifunction Control valve MFCVA. 165 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: Excuse me. The MFCV is a pressure controlled diaphragm. When 166 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: pressure builds up to a certain level of the tank, 167 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: it automatically releases pressure and vents the fumes up to 168 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: where the charcoal canister right, you know, remember the tarcal 169 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: canister we talk about. They vent the fumes through the 170 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: charcoal canister, just like you would, you know, filter water 171 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: through the charcoal filter on your fish tank, and the 172 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: fumes from there. Depending upon what they're doing it what 173 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: particular time, either get drawn into the engine under a 174 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: purge event, all right, or they sit in the canister 175 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: until they're but they're not released to the atmosphere. So 176 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: I've got two things that could basically be causing this. 177 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: I've got I could have a bad check valve. After 178 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: reading further, i could have a bad check valve. The 179 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: inlet going into the top of the coke can could 180 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: be tight or restricted or sticky or stuck or something. 181 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: Or the MFCV, the multifunction control valve, the piece that 182 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: lets pressure off on the other side, could be sticking 183 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 2: or stuck or restricted somehow. Here's the kicker, and this 184 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: is the part that's got me I'm still thinking about 185 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: this car because not fixed yet. I'll fix it. If 186 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: it's a bad checkvalve, you change the tank. If it's 187 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: a bad MFCV that's part of the fuel pump assembly, 188 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: you put a fuel pump in it. You can't. It's 189 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: not a changeable part. So I geez, I you know, 190 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: And in doing my research, I said, you know, I'm 191 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: going to talk to christ or tech support because I 192 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: have the ability to talk to them. And the answer 193 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: I got was, well, there's no real way to test 194 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: this particular system. I'm like, really, I said, if you 195 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: were in the dealership and this was under warranty, what 196 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: would happen? He says, likely looking at the warranty claims 197 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: we would get we would be charged back for a 198 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: fuel tank and a fuel pump, because that's typically what's 199 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: going on. Really, we've got no way to diagnose this. 200 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: I find that hard to believe. But I also I'm 201 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: just like in awe the stupidity of the manufacturers. So 202 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: and I told you I wasn't going to talk about this, 203 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 2: but you know what, I feel better, Thank you for 204 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: the therapy. I'm going to figure this out this week. 205 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: This is going to be this week's mission. We're going 206 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 2: to you know, I've got some phone calls into some 207 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: people that some engineers that sit down, and I'm going 208 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: to get a better understanding of how I can test this. 209 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: I know what I want to do, but I want 210 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: to see what everybody else says, you know what, at 211 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: the field level without taking it to Einstein's laboratory, although 212 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: it's coming down to that with cars today. Can I 213 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: do to test this EVAPP system? And I tell you 214 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: this in all seriousness because this is what mechanics are 215 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: up against today. This is this is the wall that 216 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: has to get knocked down. That the lack of forethorpe 217 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 2: by the manufacturer. You know, in order to save a 218 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: couple of bucks, why can't we make the MFCV part 219 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: of a separate part that you know, we popped out 220 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: of a plastic grommet on the tank so it can 221 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: be changed or tested. And until we get to that point, 222 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: cars are just going to continue to increase in stupidity, 223 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: not technology. Technology, You'll go up with the stupidity and 224 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: repairing them will go up also. So stick around. I'll 225 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: tell you what the I'll tell you what the fix is. 226 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: Next week I'm running any in the car doctor, I'll 227 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: be back right after this. Don't go away. 228 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: You'll have done. 229 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 5: What's more fun than listening to Ron and any in 230 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 5: the car doctor and getting that car fixed? 231 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: Right? 232 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 233 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: Give Ron a call. Now back to Rod. Hey, let's 234 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: go over to It's Pan New York. Is that is that? 235 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Mora? 236 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: Am I saying that right to Pan New York? 237 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: Yes? That's correct. 238 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 2: Hey, how are you today? Thanks for calling in? What's 239 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: going on? 240 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: I'm just wondering if you could recommend any places that 241 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: apply to the fluid film for the undercarriage vehicles. 242 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: Well, fluid So let's back up. I was I like 243 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: fluid film. I still like fluid film in certain applications. 244 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: I use fluid film for a while. That's the spray 245 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: on vehicle undercoding protection that's out there. I used it 246 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: a lot of my plow truck back in the early days, 247 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: and it worked well. The thing I didn't like about 248 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: fluid film was wherever you sprayed it, it stayed put. 249 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: It wouldn't spread, So you tended to use a lot 250 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: of it in terms of trying to get coverage. You know, 251 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: you go back to a car. It's sort of like 252 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: a sticky spray on. You know, it doesn't have the 253 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: liquidity to it. I guess it'd be the way the 254 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: word I'm looking for. You know, it won't spread as 255 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: you drive. And then as time went on, you know, 256 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: you hear us talk about New Hampshore oil undercoding truth 257 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: be told. I started using NHOU stuff before they became 258 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: a sponsor of this show, and I think that's what 259 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: led them to it. They found us. The thing I 260 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: like about NHOU is it actually will spread while you drive, 261 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: giving very good coverage. And having used it now on 262 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: the plow truck for the past I'm gonna say two years. 263 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: I think it does a better job of better job 264 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: than fluid film because I've had the experience. You know. 265 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: The nice thing about NHO you is it will actually 266 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: go into the crevices. It has the ability to creep 267 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: along and get into all the little corners that nothing 268 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: else I've seen on the market does because nothing else 269 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: has that liquidity, that that that thin viscosity to kind 270 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: of travel and creep. Fluid film. To answer your question directly, 271 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: fluid film can be done by really anybody with a lift. 272 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: It's available in an aerosol spray can NHOU. If you 273 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: go to their website in Hampshire Oil under New Hampshire Oil, 274 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: undercoting dot com, they will, I believe there's a list there. 275 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: You can find a dealer in your area and the 276 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: NHOU dealers have special trailers set up where they'll come 277 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: to your place of business or your house. I guess 278 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: it's up to the dealer how they want to do it, 279 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: and they will. They will, you know, apply the product 280 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: right there locally, or they'll bring it back to a 281 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: central location have you drop it off. But they've got 282 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: special trails and equipment to apply it. And I think 283 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: the effort to do an n h OU is well 284 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: worth it because I think it's a better product in 285 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: the long run. 286 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so you don't know of any place 287 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 4: with the fluid film. 288 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: Well fluid film. Fluid film is something that's just done. 289 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: You can purchase fluid film on Amazon or any place 290 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: that's uh. You know, in the past, people would bring 291 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: us a vehicle and we'd play we'd spray fluid film 292 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: on it that we purchased online or you know, it's 293 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: just it's it's it's it's it's not rocket Science to 294 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: put fluid film on. But like I said, I don't 295 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: think it's as good a product. I think NHOU is 296 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: a far securitior product to it. So does that Does 297 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: that answer it for you? 298 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? It does, thank you. I never heard of this 299 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: New Hampshire one. 300 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, go look at go look at New Hampshire oil undercoating. 301 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 302 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: They make a bunch of great they make a bunch 303 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: of different things. They've actually got an oil that I'm 304 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: really fond of having a classic car. It's called mouse 305 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: Out and it's a it's a it's a peppermint induced spray, 306 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: same oil, but they put a little bit of minter 307 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: or peppermint in it. So for animals, if your car 308 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: is parked outside, you know, it'll keep it'll keep the 309 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: the predator's mouse squirrel. You know, it's got a scent 310 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: that drives them away. You'll never smell it as a human, 311 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: it's not at that level. But it protects the car 312 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: so they're not nibbling on the wiring harnesses and the 313 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: undercarriage and all those other things. Yeah, if you've got 314 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: a vehicle that sits outside, you know what I'm talking about. 315 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, So it's all on their website. All right. 316 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: Oh great, thank you so much. 317 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. You have a great rest of the day. 318 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: Let's go, Uh, let's go talk to Jerry and Virginia. Jerry, 319 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: welcome to the car doctor, Sir, how can I help? 320 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 6: Hey, thanks very much for taking the call. Appreciate it. 321 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 6: So I got a O seven Jeep Commander with a 322 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 6: three to seven approximately one hundred and fifty thousand miles, 323 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 6: just barely breaking in yep, ready to go, and I've 324 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 6: swapped out the battery Thursday. Uh, everything works fine, car 325 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 6: comes on, drives, lights, horn, no volume on the radio. 326 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 6: But the radio comes on. 327 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: Okay, and the top it off. 328 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 6: The check engine light just went on. And when I 329 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 6: pulled into a local auto parts store to test it, 330 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 6: the code came up nothing detected or zero detected, right. 331 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: Because because the local auto parts store is testing ob 332 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: D two only. 333 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 6: Okay. 334 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: So it's it's sort of like you're asking if you're 335 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: in you're in France, and you're asking for an English translation, 336 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: and you really need a French translation. 337 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 6: Okay, all right. 338 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: OBD two is basically one language that the vehicle speaks 339 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: for the federal government year make model. In your case, 340 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: O seven jeep is a language that your vehicle speaks 341 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: for the manufacturer. All right. The way the way the 342 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: Clean Air Act of ninety one was written put into 343 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: effect in ninety six is that any time of vehicles 344 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: emissions exceeds one and a half times the legal limit 345 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: by OBD two statute, it will turn on the check 346 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: engine light. But manufacturers. Manufacturers are going to have a 347 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: different set of priorities because they're looking, you know, they've 348 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: got to tie a bunch of other loose ends together. 349 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: So what I'm getting at is you could look at 350 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: OBD two. OBD two will never check and look to 351 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: see if the radio is online. 352 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 6: Right, and I figure the two weren't connected. I figured 353 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 6: it was coincidence, and I happen to work for a 354 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 6: local auto park store. I won't you know, mention it 355 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 6: on air. But like I said, now, when you said 356 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 6: it exceeds the limit, what did you mean by that when. 357 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: A vehicle's emissions exceed one and a half times it's 358 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: base limit. I'll tell you what. Jerry, sit on the line, 359 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: stay tight, let me let me pull over and take 360 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: this pause. When we come back, we'll finish up I'm 361 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: running dying in the car. Doctor. I'll return right after this. 362 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: Don't go away. 363 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 5: Ron's in his own the Auto Zone studio and held 364 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 5: you back right after this. Welcome back to the Auto 365 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 5: Zone studio. 366 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: Here's Ron Hey rolling along this hour, and thanks for 367 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: coming back. Let's get back to Jerry and Virginia. Jerry, 368 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: you're still. 369 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: There, sir, Yes, sir, thank you, You're very welcome. 370 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: You had a question about emissions. This is where we 371 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: were going. 372 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, but mostly I'm concerned about what thought you 373 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 6: have on the no volume on the radio. 374 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So where I want you to What I want 375 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: you to do is I want you to get a 376 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: scan tool that speaks year make model, so you can 377 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: go in O seven jeep commander and treat it as 378 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: you knows as the year make model of the vehicle, 379 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: not OBD two, same plug, just different language, all right, 380 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: And I want you to just do a complete vehicle scan. 381 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: The majority of scan tools in the marketplace today, we'll 382 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: do a complete vehicle scan. It'll access. Think of a 383 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: computer network, right, Think of an office with you know, 384 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: fifty computers in it. If you had one central computer 385 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: that could go out and talk to the other forty nine. 386 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: It would poll right, polll it would poll all the 387 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: other computers, talk to them. Are they online? Who's missing, 388 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: who's not? Okay? And that's basically what a scan tool 389 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: does in complete scan mode. And I want you to 390 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: do a complete module scan. I want to see if 391 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: the radio is there, the radio is actually a computer. 392 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: It's it's a module, all right, It's not what we 393 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 2: think of, you know, from from years ago. And the 394 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: radio amplifier is the radio amplifier online. If neither one 395 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: of those is online, then that's part of the reason 396 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: why you're not getting volume. My suspicion is the radio 397 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: will be online because you said the radio powers up. 398 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it changes channels. 399 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: Everything is just right. But I'm betting, I'm betting. I'm 400 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: betting the amplifier won't be there. Have you tried disconnecting 401 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 2: the battery and reconnecting it. 402 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 6: No, I was thinking about that, but I haven't tried 403 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 6: it yet. Okay, both terminals are just the negative. 404 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: Here's what I want you to do. I want you 405 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: to take both terminals, disconnect them and hold them together 406 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: for the better part of oh give it ten minutes. 407 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: Let's do a reboot. Let's do a bleed all right. 408 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 6: When you say hold them together, you don't mean contact 409 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 6: each other. 410 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: You, yeah, disconnect them, disconnect both bit disconnect both terminals 411 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: from the battery. Yes, and put a jumper between both cables, 412 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: not the battery between both cables. In other words, touch 413 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: the negative and positive battery terminals to each other. Let's 414 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: bleed out all the electrons. 415 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 6: Okay, I see what you're saying. 416 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: All right, all right, not the battery the cable side. Right, 417 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna do a system We're gonna do a system reboot, 418 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: because it sounds to me like the radio amplifier is 419 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 2: locked up, which is why I say go scan it, 420 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: because when you scan it, you're probably going to find 421 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: it doesn't talk. If that computers offline, it's not going 422 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: to do anything. And then once you do the reboot, 423 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: right it's it then wakes up if it gets a 424 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: proper boot sequence. Common thing. Go ahead. 425 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 6: Do you say about ten minutes with jumper cables? 426 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 2: Well, ten minutes, ten minutes with a jumper wire, a 427 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: thin gauge jumper wire, Jerry, nothing fancy, you know, if 428 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: you want to get crazy, I've got I've got a 429 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: jumper wire with a ten on one WAT resistor wired 430 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: into it, and it's less of an electrical shock to 431 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: the to the modules on the vehicle. But you know, 432 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it from I do it to certain 433 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: vehicles on a repetitive basis. For you to do it 434 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: once shouldn't be an issue. But I think you've got 435 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: a radio amplifier locked up. It either didn't boot properly, 436 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 2: and this is not uncommon. I see a lot of 437 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: this on Chrysler product. I've had more. I've had more 438 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: than a few Chrysler Jeeps, for example. I call it 439 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: Chrysler but a Jeep. Same thing. I've had more than 440 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: a few Jeeps where the power seat doesn't work and 441 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: either unplugging the power seat motor underneath the seat or 442 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: doing a reboot, which I don't like to do a 443 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: complete reboot unless I have to, because now I'm a 444 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: racing memory on every module on the vehicle, and I've 445 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: got to do some relearning, which you'll do just by 446 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: normal driving. I'm not worried about an OH seven so 447 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: much as I would about a seventeen or something newer. 448 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: But you know, the idea is, we just want it. 449 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: We just want to bring everything back to a if 450 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: Windows installed an update to your computer and when it 451 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: went for the reboot on Wednesday night, when Microsoft seems 452 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: to do all their updates, because that's when I hear 453 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: that's when I hear my engineer Tom Ray yelling the most. 454 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: You know, what do you do? You reboot the computer? Right, 455 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: you turn it off, You count the five, you turn 456 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: it back on and everything works. So basically, your radio 457 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: amplifier likely just had a bad boot sequence for whatever reason, 458 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: and you've just got to reboot it. Not uncommon, got it? 459 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: Now? 460 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 6: Is there a specific order? Now you should disconnect and 461 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 6: reconnect the cables? 462 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: No, they, you know, the industry says, okay, so let's 463 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: take the negative off first, right, all right? That my 464 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: thought is take the negative off first. So when the 465 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: wrench slips on the positive and it hits the body, 466 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: you don't short anything out. Does everybody follow that? 467 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 5: Now? 468 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: Does it work? And ninety nine point nine percent of 469 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: the time, you know, haven't had an issue? 470 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: I I. 471 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: You know, this is like the theory about when the 472 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: car has bad tires, where should you put the bad 473 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: tires the front or the back? If it's a front 474 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: wheel drive, and that's a whole conversation that could go 475 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: on for hours. My answer is throw the tires out 476 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: and put two good ones on. Why take the chance, 477 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: but regardless, So all right. 478 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: Kiddo, thank you for all your health. 479 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Let me know how it works out 480 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: for you, Jerry, shoot us a note or give us 481 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: a call back next week. But I bet you that 482 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: that fixes it. So all right, thanks you again, You're welcome. 483 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: You'd be well. Let's go over to Dodge in Delaware. 484 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: Up. 485 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: Dodge is going to help me out. He's going to 486 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: help me fix the Dodge. Dodge on the Dodge. Hey, Dodge, 487 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: how are you today? 488 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing good, So I'm calling. I have a twenty 489 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: fourteen Jeep grand chair key right, and I contacted you 490 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: two years ago about this no fill you can't fill 491 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: up your gas tank problems. I mean, you just spend 492 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes trying to get four downs in the jeep, right, 493 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: and you means try this and do that and and 494 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: two points. I wasn't taking the gas tank out. I 495 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: was going to sell vehicle. And I ran to a 496 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: guy at the gas station had a geep identical to mine, 497 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: and he pulled in. He filled right up. And I 498 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: called him before he drove off, and I'm like, you 499 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: have problems filling up, And he said, let me tell 500 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: you something. Do not click off, Never let the pump 501 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: click off, and and never fill over three quarters of 502 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: the tank and all go away. And it worked. I 503 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: can fill up. 504 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: Now by doing what not. 505 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: Clicking off and not not cooking the pump off. Where 506 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: does all that gas go when you keep clicking off 507 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: when you're trying to fill it too fast? And then 508 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: he's oh and topping off. 509 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we never top off, topping off his bed. We 510 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: don't like the top off. 511 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: Right, And that seems to be the problem has something 512 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: to do with these jeeps through the chryslers, and my 513 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: problem went away. 514 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: Well, what we're gonna do on Monday is going back 515 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: to the coke can. We're gonna take that coke can 516 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: coming out the other side. If there was a whole, 517 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: that's the line that would go to the charcoal canister, 518 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: which is the fresh air side. We're gonna I'm gonna 519 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: disconnect it at the canister and if the problem goes away, 520 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: it's on the canister side. If the problem doesn't go away, 521 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 2: it's on the tank side. And that brings me back 522 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: to the MFCV or the tank itself. So but stay tuned. 523 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: I'll let you guys know what. It is always a pleasure, Dosh. 524 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: So you be well, sir, take good care. I'm running 525 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: any in the car doctor. We're back right after this. 526 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: Don't go away, Welcome back. I'm running in the card 527 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: doctor here at eight five to five, five to six 528 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero. Give us a call or 529 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: leave a message on our off hours eight five five 530 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero and we'll get 531 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: you in Q for the next live broadcast Saturday afternoons 532 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: to to four pm East Coast time. Michael and Florida. 533 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: How are things in sunny Florida today? Michael? 534 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 7: Very hot? 535 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? How hot is it? You know? I had to 536 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: ask that question. 537 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 7: Ron. I'm a seventy three year old recovering car enthusiast 538 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 7: with a nineteen ninety eight Lincoln Continental. Okay, I need 539 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 7: a retired Lincoln mechanic who wants to work a little 540 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 7: to supplement his retirement. I think at www dot com 541 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 7: for retired mechanics familiar with specific older cars would be great. 542 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 7: Maybe you could incorporate that with your show. 543 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: You know it's not a bad idea. I just Michael, 544 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: it's not a bad idea at all. I just can't 545 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: imagine what that would take in terms of man hours, 546 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: and it's that would be the only thing that would 547 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: scare me, because I know what it takes to do 548 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 2: all this, you know, on a day to day basis. 549 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's but it's a great idea. I like it. 550 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: I will take it under advisement and kick it around 551 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: a little bit and see if I could create it 552 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: or help somebody to create it. You know. In the meantime, 553 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: I don't know how they will allow you to log in, 554 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: but there are some mechanics forums out there for professional mechanics. 555 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: Diag dot net is one of them, diiag dot net, 556 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: and you know, that's where professional mechanics can log in, 557 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: sign up your subscription, and search and peruse forums and databases. 558 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: And I see from time to time this conversation about 559 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: having a DIY section of that. I don't know if 560 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: it's come to market yet or if it ever will, 561 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: but there are things like that available, you know. I 562 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: think the problem, quite frankly, is for someone to start 563 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: this at let's call it a grassroots level the issue 564 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: becomes governing it and making sure the information is accurate, 565 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: because obviously, you tell somebody to do something with a vehicle, 566 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: you got to kind of be sure you're right so 567 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: nobody gets hurt and we don't make things worse. And 568 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 2: then you know the issue of you've got to make 569 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: sure ego doesn't get in the way, because I've been 570 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: on some mechanics forums where ego is taken over and 571 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: it's one of the reasons I leave with the guys 572 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: running it. So but you know, absolutely a good idea. 573 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: You know, just for giggles, have you considered just doing 574 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: electronic information on a subscription basis for yourself? 575 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 7: No, I have not. 576 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: You know, you could look at you could look at 577 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: either Mitchell One or All Data. They both maintain a 578 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: professional DIY site. It's they're both probably under forty bucks 579 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: a year. And you're gonna get you know, you're gonna 580 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: get So what did you say, you have you a 581 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: ninety eight Lincoln, You're gonna get this. You're gonna get 582 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: the same information for that ninety eight Lincoln. You know 583 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: that's one of the cars you choose. I'm not exactly 584 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure if they limit you to that 585 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 2: or they give you a choice of two or three 586 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: for that subscription, but they will allow you to You 587 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: will get the exact same information I get in the 588 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: shop the other guys get in the shop. You know everything, 589 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: whatever's out there, and it's it's maintained, it's authored, it's edited. 590 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: You know it's correct. And you know that at least 591 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: is you know, that's the equivalent of And I can 592 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: say this because we both came from that era. You know, 593 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: that's the Chiltern Manual of the day, all right, you 594 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: know it's it's just done electronically. 595 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: Now, could we uh? 596 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 7: Could I mentioned a few of my existing problems? 597 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: Sure? 598 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: Uh? 599 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 7: It has air suspension which SAgs after sitting for either 600 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 7: days or hours. 601 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: So it's leaking. What is indeed, Well, it's leaking. So 602 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: it's you need a real high tech piece of equipment. 603 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: You need the trained eye, a flashlight and a bottle 604 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: of soapy water. High tech. You know you're looking to see, 605 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: you know you're looking to see. You know, are the 606 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: bags themselves leaking? Are the lines leaking? You know where's 607 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: the leak? 608 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 7: You know it's the bags? Look good? I thought, Since 609 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 7: it varies so much, in time, whether it be three 610 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 7: days to go down or three hours. It might be 611 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 7: a control unit that needs to be replaced. 612 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: Could be, but you would have to test it. There 613 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: are ways using a scan tool, which is probably gone 614 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: off so leap by now because ninety eight was pre 615 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: can so the diagnostics got a little sticky now that 616 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: things are going away, you know. So I'm back to 617 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: and even though you say the bags look good, you're 618 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: you're approving. I'm not picking on you, but just basic mechanics, Michael. 619 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: You're approving the bags without testing anything. Bottle of soapy 620 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: spray water up in the air, Hit it with a 621 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: little water and watch. You'll be amazed how any bad 622 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: bags we found over the years. You know, you would 623 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 2: swear there's nothing wrong with it, and all of a sudden, 624 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: you see, you know, you see bubbles coming out of 625 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: the folds, you know, and you just realize, like, wow, yeah, 626 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: that's that's where it is. But interestingly, the car should 627 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: trim out, right, it should trim out. If it drops 628 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: below a certain level, it should trim. 629 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 7: It regains its composure in about a minute after the ignition. 630 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: Keyon, all right, so that's good. So it recognizes the fault. 631 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: Sit tight a minute, Michael, Let me pull over and 632 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: take this last break. When I come back, we'll finish up. 633 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car doctor. We'll return right 634 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: after this. Welcome back, Running of the Car doctor, Michael, Florida. 635 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: You're still there? Well, I know Florida's still there. Are 636 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: you still there? Michael? 637 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 7: I'm still here, perfect, both. 638 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: Of you together. 639 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 5: You know. 640 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: The one thing to think about real quick with your night. 641 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: It's a ninety eight Lincoln. Is it a town car? 642 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 7: Did you say no, it's a Continental. 643 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: It's a Continental, Okay, It's it's going to be parts 644 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: availability because parts are coming up short in supply, and 645 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: just be aware of that. So, you know, going back 646 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: to your first comment about the mechanics based website, which 647 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: I agree, it's going to be based on which vehicles 648 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: will survive. 649 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 7: You know. 650 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: By that, I mean I can find parts easier for 651 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: my fifty five Chevy than I can for the ninety 652 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: eight Lincoln that I get for. 653 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 7: You know, So it's a nineteen sixties muscle car. 654 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's it's it's you know, a lot of 655 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: it has to do I think with you know, what 656 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: cars will survive in the cost of that technology. One 657 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: thing I want to mention to you, and I don't 658 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: want to put a shiver down your spine, but you 659 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: may want to consider, you know, if it turns out 660 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: it's a bad bag or a bad compressor for the 661 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: air ride problem, you know, you may want to consider. 662 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: And you know, don't wash my mouth. That was so 663 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: for saying this, but maybe put a coil conversion kitting 664 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: it if somebody makes it. 665 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 7: I have considered that. Yeah, And you know, I don't 666 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 7: know if that's the logical. 667 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 4: Thing to do. 668 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 2: It will ride different because I know how those cars 669 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: rode like you were sitting on there on your couch 670 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: watching TV. You know, they wrote really nice. But uh, 671 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: you know, I just wanted to mention that in my 672 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: last my last thirty five seconds, Michael, real quick. You 673 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: had a couple of questions. 674 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I uh. The other thing I have is the 675 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 7: power steering leaks and being transverse mounted. The pump is 676 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 7: on the passenger side of the engine down low then, 677 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 7: but it groans and the noise comes from the steering columns. 678 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 7: Am I looking at two separate problems here? 679 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: It sounds like it, it sounds like and first of all, 680 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: I make sure that the system has no leaks. If 681 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: there are any air leaks in the system, like anything hydraulic, 682 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: it could make it moan and grown. Now there are 683 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: some products out there that will help revitalize the pump. 684 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pass on that till next week. Call me 685 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: next week and I'll have the name of the product 686 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 2: for you. I can't think of it off the top 687 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: of my head, but yes, it sounds like mechanical clunks 688 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 2: from the column is different than wines from the pump. 689 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: We'll talk next week, Michael, I'm on a nady in 690 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: the car. Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 691 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: See you