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Speaker 5: are you all today? Tuesday?
Speaker 3: We're good. We get to talk football. If there's ever
Speaker 3: a time to play those forty nine ers, this is
Speaker 3: the week. How crazy is that?
Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel story walking pneumonia or something.
Speaker 3: Like that, right, and didn't even know it and.
Speaker 9: His lungs and he walked on the field, turned around
Speaker 9: and walked back walking.
Speaker 5: Do you not know when you're on the bus like
Speaker 5: I just got to go today.
Speaker 4: No, No, we're just so programmed.
Speaker 5: This is what I do.
Speaker 4: We fight through it.
Speaker 6: Oh just a little it's always just a little little
Speaker 6: head cole, a little little congestion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a stomach hurts a little bit.
Speaker 5: Until you get out there the whole time.
Speaker 4: You know what me Fine, got out, your pinker is removed.
Speaker 10: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: It's like it's it's we've we've are We're so programmed
Speaker 6: that whenever we got to do to get to Sunday
Speaker 6: and it's just a little know, I'll I'll get out there,
Speaker 6: I'll feel better, It'll give me some medicine and.
Speaker 4: We'll move on.
Speaker 3: So I have a question for you guys as former
Speaker 3: retired athletes.
Speaker 6: Well, we're not former retired athletes. We're former players that
Speaker 6: are now retired. You're yeah, you're retired, as that would
Speaker 6: make us an active athlete, either one of us right
Speaker 6: now doing anything of the sort in the football field room.
Speaker 5: Thanks for correcting that.
Speaker 6: Now you go down to the trailer parks, it gets active,
Speaker 6: it gets active at the TPS.
Speaker 5: Is a former retired trail not active?
Speaker 3: If you don't know formerly retired means you're not retired
Speaker 3: and means you're active active.
Speaker 4: So as a physical down at the TPS, as a.
Speaker 3: Non professional former athlete, when I when things ail me,
Speaker 3: I tend to curder you the same way, kind of
Speaker 3: put it off and you don't really go to the
Speaker 3: doctor till like.
Speaker 5: We know, you go.
Speaker 4: You know it document is yours, you know right now.
Speaker 3: And you kind of put it off. You're like, I'll
Speaker 3: pull out of it. I'll be fine, I'll just wait.
Speaker 3: When you play like you you're immediately in there. Something's
Speaker 3: going on with my toe, Something's going on with this,
Speaker 3: something's going on with.
Speaker 4: This, right?
Speaker 3: Is that how it goes? Or as a player, do
Speaker 3: you kind of put things off and the hospital is right, right,
Speaker 3: and that directly affects your performance when directly affects your money? Right,
Speaker 3: but as when you leave because that's been your life
Speaker 3: for four, eight, twelve, fifteen, twenty years, where you you
Speaker 3: have free health care immediately at the blink of an eye,
Speaker 3: and you have anything you want at the blink of
Speaker 3: an eye.
Speaker 4: I want something rather there. Yeah, good drug down there?
Speaker 4: Do you still telling you? I'm telling you Kurt has
Speaker 4: some good drug down there.
Speaker 3: Brother, do you still are you still in that mindset
Speaker 3: where when you you feel a little off, you go
Speaker 3: to the doctor, or now you did it for so
Speaker 3: long you just you.
Speaker 5: Put it it off like everybody else me, I go,
Speaker 5: you go.
Speaker 8: So if something feels off, something feel off, and it
Speaker 8: bothered me for one to day, I'll be like, babe,
Speaker 8: I'm gone.
Speaker 5: How many days in a row do you have to
Speaker 5: fill off before you one? I look at my family history.
Speaker 5: You catch waiting all of you.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: I find out I hand calcl died two weeks later.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I ain't gonna wait that long. So you
Speaker 5: give it one day grace period next day in there
Speaker 5: if I'm yeah, I don't play, man, what about you?
Speaker 5: I don't play.
Speaker 6: I gotta get to that point. Like dental like anything
Speaker 6: that's like I can go in and get you. I'm
Speaker 6: going like, I don't play around with the dental stuff,
Speaker 6: but physical I would I wait a.
Speaker 4: Little bit too long, feel like you can fight through it.
Speaker 4: I always do, like I just.
Speaker 3: Is it a macho thing? Like my immune system is
Speaker 3: tough than that. It's gonna it's gonna defeat this germ.
Speaker 3: That's the way I am. I got a great immune system.
Speaker 3: And they be like, yeah, take this every four to
Speaker 3: six hours. I'm like taking it every twenty minutes, like
Speaker 3: another dose, smell another dose, another dose.
Speaker 5: Everybody else? Really, yeah, take this every song, Gentuary? How
Speaker 5: may can I take it a day?
Speaker 6: Because let's be honest, in our football days, there was
Speaker 6: no every four to eight hours, ten hours and twelve hours.
Speaker 4: We take as much as we want they'll give us.
Speaker 8: I mean one day I came in with ah with
Speaker 8: upset stomach, and uh, they say, take this one pill
Speaker 8: every three.
Speaker 5: Hours, mister Brown, So you behind three hours, take two
Speaker 5: to Kurt.
Speaker 3: Kurt has a great question one of the few times
Speaker 3: actually has a great question on the rundown.
Speaker 5: Is he gonna ask you?
Speaker 9: Are you I'm not sure which the very first one?
Speaker 4: Do you have the rundown in front of you?
Speaker 5: That's a great question. Okay, ask away Kurt. Kurt's corner
Speaker 5: right out, you know.
Speaker 8: Yah?
Speaker 9: All right. So as fans, you know, we're saying, oh guy,
Speaker 9: we're facing the forty nine ers again. They've been kicking
Speaker 9: their butts last three four years. We don't have a
Speaker 9: chance this and that with players, there's so much turnover
Speaker 9: on a ros street here does that kind of stuff
Speaker 9: carry over for them too.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, I would say the first half pay right,
Speaker 6: the first half of that statement.
Speaker 4: We say the part about like we don't have a chance.
Speaker 6: I don't think we say that now, we're not saying
Speaker 6: that part like that part, but we gotta fake these Yeah,
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 9: So there's a mental hurdle to get over for sure.
Speaker 4: Like for the guys who've been here part of it.
Speaker 6: For the guys who've been here, your Dak's, Micah's, your
Speaker 6: ce these, your tanks, digs, there's a there's a Travis
Speaker 6: Fredericks I mean sorry, yeah, Travis front Martin, Zach Mars,
Speaker 6: Travis Frederick I'm talking about is Zach Martin's. Like, there's
Speaker 6: a number of guys who've been here, who've who've felt
Speaker 6: that defeat from them a couple of years in a row.
Speaker 4: That's like, dang man, gotta play because again, man, we
Speaker 4: gotta we gotta get one, we gotta get.
Speaker 9: One, gotta change. So later, do you guys have teams
Speaker 9: like that you faced?
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it was earlier in our career. Boy, it
Speaker 5: was a whole n C. The whole Washington Hang them
Speaker 5: the Giants Only field was the Cognals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it might have.
Speaker 6: Been Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. You know, you think
Speaker 6: about those teams, you're like joke, you just know, like
Speaker 6: did yo again? Like that guy Philly maybe, But like,
Speaker 6: I don't know if there was anyone in our time,
Speaker 6: in my time frame that like dominated us, like.
Speaker 9: There was quite that same.
Speaker 4: We weren't getting bet we.
Speaker 3: Got off now and again, those teams were all the
Speaker 3: AFC at that time, your Juggernauts, I guess, the Patriots,
Speaker 3: the else was over there at that time.
Speaker 5: That was it. That was really the only thing. And
Speaker 5: we never played the coch Yeah huh.
Speaker 3: So as beat up as they are, they're gonna be
Speaker 3: without looks like without Ayuk, without Debo, without you think he's.
Speaker 5: Gonna make it.
Speaker 4: Think you think he's gonna I think lungs And for
Speaker 4: this game, they got some good drugs.
Speaker 8: So when they're trying to get fluids off the loan,
Speaker 8: is that appeal.
Speaker 5: You know, take flew us off or do they stab
Speaker 5: a needle in?
Speaker 4: You ain't never had my lungs.
Speaker 8: Un we're getting fluid off the loans, so we can
Speaker 8: make sure that's not available.
Speaker 4: There's the doctor in.
Speaker 3: The house yeah, call call Britt, Chris Britt, give us
Speaker 3: a call. How y'all do that? But they're gonna be
Speaker 3: without au Debo. We'll see Kittles banged up. McCaffrey is
Speaker 3: not gonna be back until the week after. It looks
Speaker 3: like so if there's ever a time to play them,
Speaker 3: it's now, because you never you never look back at
Speaker 3: the schedule and go, yeah, you won that game, but
Speaker 3: they were really banged up. Now you you finally beat them? Right?
Speaker 5: And do they have do they have a shot?
Speaker 3: Contrary to what Kurt says, we don't have a chance.
Speaker 3: Do you do you think there's a legitimate change at home?
Speaker 8: If we didn't have the same problems had yeah, I
Speaker 8: would think we had a shot. But we had the
Speaker 8: same problems and sometimes worse.
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 3: Are their injuries in more key positions than our injuries?
Speaker 3: And it's weird that Mica is still saying he's up
Speaker 3: in the air and do Ron blad we don't know
Speaker 3: about right?
Speaker 6: He said it, and Michael Mike Mike Michael from Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: said it, so who knows, who knows if he'll play?
Speaker 4: Who knows what it's the man?
Speaker 3: Michael from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael, Michael from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7: Okay, yes, sir, do you guys really want to know
Speaker 7: this hurts all?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 7: It's called thorosyentesis.
Speaker 4: Okay, like photosynthesis, yes, but thorough th h o R.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 7: A medical professional inserts a needle between the ribs into
Speaker 7: the pearl space and the drain the fluid. This procedure
Speaker 7: can be received chest pressure and test the fluid for infection.
Speaker 5: They usually do this while you are awake.
Speaker 4: So okay, I'll just suck it off and.
Speaker 5: Get right out there in place.
Speaker 6: God, that's why to get the fluid out?
Speaker 5: Why do not fall?
Speaker 7: Okay, Jesse, Jesse, remember this at eleven minutes in?
Speaker 5: That is what I called myself, which is worst.
Speaker 3: The worst never gets you yourself.
Speaker 5: Just keep going what just came out.
Speaker 6: So I've never had this procedure done to me, but
Speaker 6: I did have broken ribs, and the sound of that
Speaker 6: reminded me how they took care of my broken ribs.
Speaker 4: So what they basically did was.
Speaker 6: They you get up on the table and they kind
Speaker 6: of lay on your side like in the feetle, and
Speaker 6: they take an ultrasound. Right, they literally took an ultrasound
Speaker 6: where I can look up on the screen and see
Speaker 6: the vision of my rib and where the crack is
Speaker 6: at my rib.
Speaker 4: They numb the area.
Speaker 6: They numbed the area like they numbered the topical topical
Speaker 6: part of it.
Speaker 4: They numb it.
Speaker 6: And they took this big old needle because it had
Speaker 6: to get down into the areas of where you needed
Speaker 6: to And I'm watching, I'm watching them do it on
Speaker 6: this screen.
Speaker 3: They got to do that because they didn't want to
Speaker 3: punture you lung right right, That's why they're doing.
Speaker 6: That's what they should have done with in Buffalo before
Speaker 6: the punctured Tyrod Taylor Loves or Seattle, wherever it was.
Speaker 4: They should have actually had this machine and big old needle,
Speaker 4: big old needle.
Speaker 6: And went down in there and injected it in those
Speaker 6: spots up near my rib.
Speaker 4: And off I went, and you were good.
Speaker 5: Off I went till after the game.
Speaker 4: Till half time, got another shot at half time.
Speaker 5: They did the same thing at halftimes and a half times.
Speaker 4: It's still numb.
Speaker 5: When they did it the second time, it was going away.
Speaker 4: Then they gave me some they gave me some drugs.
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, was like we can't
Speaker 6: give another needle, take some of these drugs and go home.
Speaker 5: And that's what.
Speaker 6: So that sounds painful, Yeah, it's like it's but again,
Speaker 6: these are the things that people sometimes don't know that
Speaker 6: athletes go through. And this is not a you know,
Speaker 6: feel sympathy from from the fans, but if there is
Speaker 6: a a medical chance that he could go, and all
Speaker 6: it is that we have to remove some of this
Speaker 6: off your lungs, and because of ammonia, you can. You
Speaker 6: can take some antibiotics and do what you gotta do
Speaker 6: on that in the fluid part, they'll remove it and
Speaker 6: we'll figure it there on to by next week. So
Speaker 6: they're like, listen, how can I get I said this
Speaker 6: many times.
Speaker 4: Before I get through this game? How can I get
Speaker 4: to Sunday?
Speaker 6: If I can get to Sunday and I'm able to go,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go. We'll figure the rest out later. First
Speaker 6: people to by looking in their face after this week.
Speaker 3: So as well as you can't do more damage by
Speaker 3: getting out there.
Speaker 4: And they gonna kill you, moss.
Speaker 7: That you can also have antibiotics to help it out.
Speaker 6: So they don't they trust me, They're gonna give him
Speaker 6: there he's and there's always tears. Okay, there's always tears
Speaker 6: to this if it's a quarterback, if you're just starting quarterback.
Speaker 6: I remember when Tony had the punctured lungs and broken ribs.
Speaker 6: I forgot who the I forgot who the the training
Speaker 6: ga was.
Speaker 4: You're going home with him.
Speaker 6: Whatever treatment he needs around the clock, you will administer
Speaker 6: it like you. Then there's the next tier of Hey,
Speaker 6: he gets priority service here, you know, all day long,
Speaker 6: and then there's down here, and then there's me, and
Speaker 6: then there's like, hey, take these pills and get out
Speaker 6: of here. So call me if you call me, if
Speaker 6: you call me if you're coughing up blood. But until that,
Speaker 6: you can go home with these pills. I look at
Speaker 6: de boys, one of those guys who are kind of
Speaker 6: up there in the in the tears. So whatever treatment
Speaker 6: that he's gonna need, whether that means these days at
Speaker 6: the hospital or it's administer at home, there's gonna be
Speaker 6: at around the clock treatment.
Speaker 4: Wow for a god like debo.
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Speaker 5: Who we got Chris.
Speaker 4: We've got Bobby.
Speaker 7: He's in Longview, Texas.
Speaker 5: Bobby and love you. Tell us? How you fee today?
Speaker 10: I fail? Yes, sir, Well, I've been won'ting to ask
Speaker 10: this question for a long time. I've been a cowboy.
Speaker 14: How you fee?
Speaker 5: First?
Speaker 10: I think? Then get you about the Cowboys?
Speaker 5: Sure, wherever you want to take.
Speaker 4: You, wherever you want to go? Baby, your world we're
Speaker 4: just living in it.
Speaker 10: Well, well, I can say I love the Cowboys, but
Speaker 10: I don't like the way they're playing, as most people don't.
Speaker 10: But my main concern here is how may any Has
Speaker 10: anybody got any stats on how many balls the defense
Speaker 10: is knocked down up up around the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 10: You could count? I bet you could count all those
Speaker 10: on five hands instead of have two fingers left.
Speaker 6: Five hand, give you twenty five, give you twenty five choices,
Speaker 6: I mean one hand five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're saying our.
Speaker 5: Defensive line up.
Speaker 10: Maybe I got the number wrong, but you have five
Speaker 10: out of five thingers you'd have, you'd have fingers left over.
Speaker 10: Don't how many balls they've knocked down up around the
Speaker 10: line of scrimmage?
Speaker 5: Under five?
Speaker 10: I think it would be.
Speaker 3: Yes, I.
Speaker 10: Hadn't noticed any.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're not getting their hands up.
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 4: It's hard to get your hands up when you're on
Speaker 4: your back.
Speaker 10: Look to try anyway. Yeah, I hear you back.
Speaker 4: We'll let him know, body, Bobby, We're gonna let him know, brother.
Speaker 4: We appreciate your calling.
Speaker 14: Man.
Speaker 6: Uh, Kurt's gonna look that start up for us right now.
Speaker 6: And when we get those numbers, man, keep listening in
Speaker 6: and we will get that number to you. Bobby, appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening.
Speaker 10: All right, bye bye.
Speaker 3: That's my people over there long view. That's mye towards
Speaker 3: my neck. Yeah, he got that, Louisiana math.
Speaker 9: I think he was talking like one guy with five hands.
Speaker 9: He was talking about the line as a whole. You
Speaker 9: have all these arms up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said, you can.
Speaker 6: You can count the number on five hands.
Speaker 4: We knew it, Bobby was we got you, Bobby, we
Speaker 4: got you. Tried, Bobby, were working with your brother.
Speaker 5: I definitely knew what he was saying.
Speaker 6: You got that. That's that's my people. If you don't
Speaker 6: understand your people.
Speaker 5: Then who will so question before we get back to
Speaker 5: that ball zero.
Speaker 3: Well, well, Bobby was right, all five Look by no hands,
Speaker 3: you could just do a closed fist and you got it,
Speaker 3: like the power. Coach McCarthy is twelve and five in
Speaker 3: the first game after the bye all time, including three
Speaker 3: and one with Dallas.
Speaker 5: Is there something to that? Are there some coaches that
Speaker 5: are good at that?
Speaker 3: Does that mean he's a better adjuster or is that
Speaker 3: just a stat that doesn't hollow staff? That doesn't really
Speaker 3: mean anything. There's some coaches that are better at spending
Speaker 3: that time wisely or what are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 4: Nate, I'm still five head there up until this year.
Speaker 6: You guys know how I felt about Michael from Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: And it's a it's a it's one of those it's
Speaker 6: one of those questions that has multiple layers to it.
Speaker 6: There is the one is who are they playing after
Speaker 6: the bye? That matters, right? What teams? What team did
Speaker 6: he have because this is a bad team, right, But
Speaker 6: prior to Mike has had some pretty good teams, Like
Speaker 6: you don't get the twelve and five by not having
Speaker 6: some pretty good teams. And his time in Green Bay
Speaker 6: you had arguably, if not the best, second, third, best
Speaker 6: order back in all of football.
Speaker 4: So that matters.
Speaker 6: And then you'd like to believe, and I want to believe,
Speaker 6: but I'm on the negative side of Michael from Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: right now. That there was some adjustment that happened. That's
Speaker 6: there was some things that he went back into the
Speaker 6: lab and they had to cross the hall meetings, and
Speaker 6: he went back and looked his self in the mirror
Speaker 6: and had the self evaluation, and that he looked at
Speaker 6: things and was willing to.
Speaker 4: Change those I will be.
Speaker 6: I will be tuned into this game. We talked about
Speaker 6: it as we were leaving at the studio yesterday. What
Speaker 6: do I have to see that makes me feel different?
Speaker 6: How long will it take me? These first the first fifteen,
Speaker 6: that first, that first possession, maybe the first second.
Speaker 3: You need to see if anything's been changed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that first fifteen is gonna tell me. That first
Speaker 6: fifteen is gonna.
Speaker 4: Let me know.
Speaker 5: So the first series or two.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna know.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna know that there's a change to your approach
Speaker 6: in this And that's a great number two over and five.
Speaker 6: You you want and they need to win bad, they
Speaker 6: need to win real bad. So hopefully that there is
Speaker 6: some sort of mojo moment that he has coming out
Speaker 6: of this by with this particular football team, because they
Speaker 6: are they're really man. This is a this is a
Speaker 6: when you look at their overall stats, when you look
Speaker 6: at the fact that they're bottom third in the league
Speaker 6: and red zone scoring their bottom third in the league
Speaker 6: and giving up red zone touchdowns their bottom third in
Speaker 6: the league.
Speaker 3: And takeaways take away away, He's.
Speaker 6: Like, they're not supposed to be Like, they're not supposed
Speaker 6: to be three and three, right, it should be more
Speaker 6: one in five, two and.
Speaker 3: Four could be very easily won in five.
Speaker 6: So that lends to believe that there's something in there
Speaker 6: that's good enough to get things done. So hopefully that
Speaker 6: Michael from Pittsburgh is able to get this team going in.
Speaker 5: The right direction. Chris, well, have you more calls?
Speaker 7: We do, but before we get to call, like, I
Speaker 7: had a text message that's from Jason in Pennsylvania. He says,
Speaker 7: didn't Micah have a batted ball that Kendrick intercepted in
Speaker 7: the first game of the season.
Speaker 4: I believe he did? Is that right? Wasn't the line
Speaker 4: of scrimmage?
Speaker 5: Was it? I mean.
Speaker 7: Pretty sure tip ball, wasn't it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think tipping bat at are different.
Speaker 5: No, maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I guess it's.
Speaker 3: Maybe all these stats Kurt's been given us over the
Speaker 3: years are faulty.
Speaker 4: Well maybe there's not.
Speaker 5: So there's not a place on the show for you.
Speaker 5: That was a question.
Speaker 9: I just read a quote recently. There's three kinds of stats.
Speaker 9: There's three kinds of lies, regular lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Speaker 7: All right, all right, so our next guy up would
Speaker 7: be Fernando.
Speaker 3: He's calling from Miami.
Speaker 5: Oh right, Fernando and Miami. How do you feel?
Speaker 14: I feel good. I feel good, guys, guys, this cause
Speaker 14: for Jesse. Jesse. I saw on television that Cowboy forty
Speaker 14: nine er game that you played in, and I remember thinking,
Speaker 14: this guy is the guy that won that competition for
Speaker 14: Michael Urban and I remember thinking, this dude might be
Speaker 14: one of the best receivers on our team. Right now.
Speaker 14: I remember you had energy. I mean the receivers on
Speaker 14: that team. I think it was Stephen Williams and I
Speaker 14: think Marles Aufman. But I remember the way you played
Speaker 14: and the energy you had, and I was thinking, dude,
Speaker 14: this guy could play. And then after that game and
Speaker 14: those times, we didn't have the NFL ticket, So I
Speaker 14: remember the follow with time that they showed the Cowboys
Speaker 14: all TV. Now I got the NFL ticket, I was like,
Speaker 14: where's the sky at what happened after that forty nine
Speaker 14: er game. I don't even remember seeing you in the
Speaker 14: offense after that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jason realized that he had fifty three just like me,
Speaker 6: and the one that he had he didn't want to know. Fernando,
Speaker 6: I have the same question as you, brother. Laron Robinson
Speaker 6: came back from injury, came back from injury, and.
Speaker 4: They I just wasn't in the cars. I just I
Speaker 4: wasn't what they looked for in that offense.
Speaker 6: Jason Garrett had other plans for the offense, and my
Speaker 6: role was to be a special teams guy and a
Speaker 6: fourth fifth wide receiver. And so in this league, sometimes
Speaker 6: you get into a situation that benefits you. Sometimes you
Speaker 6: get in a situation that does it. Sometimes you get
Speaker 6: in when you fit in.
Speaker 14: And you know, that was a stuble that game. Let
Speaker 14: me tell you. I was so happy when you guys
Speaker 14: won that game, and I was like, who is this guy?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It took a lot of guy to get hurt to
Speaker 4: get to me. Remember that game.
Speaker 14: That game could play.
Speaker 6: Miles got hurt in that game, and uh, what was
Speaker 6: seventeen's name?
Speaker 4: Harris? Dwayne Harris could line up properly. That's how he
Speaker 4: got Dwayne.
Speaker 14: What's around in those in those times?
Speaker 4: He was a rookie.
Speaker 14: Wow, yeah, yeah, and you were tall. I think you
Speaker 14: won six to two or something, six to three something
Speaker 14: TUESDAIX three. I was taking too. This guy is just
Speaker 14: as good as any anybody out there. Then all of
Speaker 14: a sudden, it bam, that was it. I was like,
Speaker 14: where did he go?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Last year, I don't even remember if we had it.
Speaker 14: Good year.
Speaker 6: Send me your address. I'm gonna send a check in
Speaker 6: the mail for these comments. I appreciate you. You make
Speaker 6: me feel good today.
Speaker 5: Thank you now.
Speaker 14: Dude, you kicked as that day. Seriously, you made me
Speaker 14: so happy when they won that game. I mean I
Speaker 14: was like, this, dude, can play. They hit it with
Speaker 14: this guy, but then plunked. That was that you were?
Speaker 14: You vanished?
Speaker 4: I didn't quite vanished. I was still there. I was
Speaker 4: still there.
Speaker 3: I know what, I know what Fernando, this might be
Speaker 3: the most complimentary destructive call to Jesse z e Go
Speaker 3: no ever got because you built it up and then
Speaker 3: you just keep telling him yeah, but you just disappeared.
Speaker 4: Where did you go?
Speaker 3: What happened was still that you were great, You were awesome,
Speaker 3: but yeah, you just I never saw you anymore.
Speaker 5: Just what happened now?
Speaker 4: Jason had that, I was.
Speaker 14: Like I didn't see him on the field. I mean
Speaker 14: I wouldn't get.
Speaker 5: Thank you for the call. Man, man, what could have been?
Speaker 5: You ever wonder that? Like what could have been? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That had just given you another a little a few
Speaker 3: more opportunities.
Speaker 6: Yep, four year, thirty two million dollar contract in Jacksonville
Speaker 6: could have been.
Speaker 3: Was that thing your Laurent had like eleven touchdowns and
Speaker 3: didn't do anything really before or after, not gonna say anything.
Speaker 6: He didn't do anything after to Jacksonville had signed his contract.
Speaker 5: Or two touchdowns and that was he played half to year? Yeah,
Speaker 5: was that it?
Speaker 4: And then retired? Wow concussions?
Speaker 11: Wow?
Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty two thirty two million. I think it's like
Speaker 6: seventeen million guaranteed he.
Speaker 9: Didn't The most touchdowns he had before that was too.
Speaker 3: And all of that because he was able to on
Speaker 3: broken plays seven times triak across the back of the seven.
Speaker 4: Times and just in seven times. That was that was
Speaker 4: his deal.
Speaker 6: It was about three or four that was really posted.
Speaker 6: He was in the progression.
Speaker 4: The other seven just all hell broke loose, and he
Speaker 4: just being Tony Romo right place, only doing this and
Speaker 4: that and point dudes, and oh there's the run seven
Speaker 4: eight times. Man, I'm like, god done.
Speaker 5: Were you fast enough to do that? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean nobody can't guard me for six seconds
Speaker 6: Tony's doing that.
Speaker 5: And catch im running straight.
Speaker 6: But when he's I'm doing all that shoot oh man,
Speaker 6: good times.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: Shout out to La run.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out to Fernando for.
Speaker 3: That great terrible phone call.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean thank you. All these years still
Speaker 4: remember me?
Speaker 10: Do you?
Speaker 3: Does the same frame game every year? Hold a little
Speaker 3: to bring back memories? Or is it just like another game?
Speaker 6: It still keeps me alive. Brother, They can forget it
Speaker 6: in life. You're easily forgettable. I know at least one
Speaker 6: time of year that people are.
Speaker 4: Going to remember me.
Speaker 5: That's a good point. He was a game.
Speaker 6: September eighteenth will always be the Jesse Hollyday, the Jesse
Speaker 6: Holly game.
Speaker 4: So I'll take that.
Speaker 6: Listen, you don't get a lot of chances in life
Speaker 6: to be remembered positively. I take that, and I'm going
Speaker 6: to until I'm gone. I want that to remember. I
Speaker 6: never want that to go away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you.
Speaker 3: Think of it that way, you have one of the
Speaker 3: most memorable plays in Cowboys history.
Speaker 4: Not according to Nick keep me no, I'm playing. I'm
Speaker 4: sorry taking a.
Speaker 3: Shot that you're counting, But I mean, seriously not when
Speaker 3: you think about those plays though, it's it's it's in
Speaker 3: the conversation of the Marion Barber play that Tony Romo
Speaker 3: scrambled for fifty yards and get you know five that
Speaker 3: he needed for the first down, like those you know
Speaker 3: him spinning out of that JJ Watt tackle. Like it's
Speaker 3: when people think, you know, Hail Mary obviously is d played.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's you know, it's it's especially for the
Speaker 3: new cowboy fans that you know aren't older that remember
Speaker 3: a lot of those older the ninety nine yard Tony
Speaker 3: dor Set touchdown run. But as far as like the
Speaker 3: new you know, the new era of plays, that's that
Speaker 3: one's up there, man, and you you were it.
Speaker 5: You were the play, but you know and the story
Speaker 5: behind this.
Speaker 6: If there's anything about that moment about that day that
Speaker 6: I sometimes like, man, Like I get the seventy seven
Speaker 6: yard it was pretty cool. But if you go back
Speaker 6: and watch, I had two really difficult catches on third down,
Speaker 6: key third down slants that threw the hurt. Then I
Speaker 6: went down there and got all hands like, I'm like, dang,
Speaker 6: nobody remember the slants and those you don't get the
Speaker 6: seventy seven yard er if you don't get the other
Speaker 6: two slants that kept the drive alive. Those are two
Speaker 6: really good catches, man. I was like, I even went
Speaker 6: back to the huddle. I was like, hey, Tony, man,
Speaker 6: those guys are playing me off and outside.
Speaker 4: He's like, okay, boone. He came right back to me.
Speaker 6: Slam right the shoot, tip right up, shoot tips first.
Speaker 4: Down, Bang another one. Bang, You're welcome the second.
Speaker 3: Welcome Dan Bailey, I mean, bam down at the one.
Speaker 5: You know the one. Got there.
Speaker 4: I can get you to the one.
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Speaker 4: Now, you're gonna participate the day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, yeah, I'm on hand. He's still trying to
Speaker 5: make it that up.
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Speaker 3: and O Hi, Michael and O Hi.
Speaker 5: How do you be today?
Speaker 15: I'll feel a lot better in my class day is done.
Speaker 15: I'm a teacher, so I'm sneaking this phone call during
Speaker 15: my lunch break.
Speaker 4: Okay, what great? What elements? High school?
Speaker 15: High school? I teach a bunch of aps and whatnot.
Speaker 15: It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: God love you man.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 15: Uh, It's it's all good because they let me coach
Speaker 15: even though I'm definitely underqualified. So but uh, one of
Speaker 15: the same things. For taking the call. Although I've I've
Speaker 15: tried calling him before, never got in. The only person
Speaker 15: I've I've had the privilege, or it seems, according to
Speaker 15: to Jesse today, the misfortune of speaking to his nick Eatman.
Speaker 15: And uh, the last time I spoke to him, I
Speaker 15: was nineteen and he chewed me out for asking about
Speaker 15: pulled hamstrings. But uh that was back in the miles
Speaker 15: Austin days, Jesse Hollidays and all them. Uh but uh, Jesse,
Speaker 15: I I I do remember the slants, just so you know.
Speaker 15: And uh uh yeah, and uh, I got to say,
Speaker 15: it's a real privilege to be even on the line.
Speaker 15: If Nate doesn't want to talk, I get it. I
Speaker 15: appreciate it, and and uh curtain and WI all good,
Speaker 15: appreciate it. Just to cut my rambling here, I was,
Speaker 15: I was, you know, trying not to be like everybody
Speaker 15: else and freaking out about three and three, And I
Speaker 15: think Jesse and they you both made great points yesterday
Speaker 15: talking about the combination of injuries and just lack of talent.
Speaker 15: But what I was really kind of looking at is
Speaker 15: as I've gotten older, having more perspective, so I stopped
Speaker 15: riding the.
Speaker 5: Highs and lows.
Speaker 15: And when you look at what Mike McCarthy's been doing, like,
Speaker 15: do we feel like last year there was like a
Speaker 15: breath of fresh air because I think a lot of people,
Speaker 15: myself included, we're waiting for the the Hellen Moore days
Speaker 15: to move on. So getting Mike getting the play calls
Speaker 15: and having the offense click looked great, and we had
Speaker 15: a defensive coordinator who can handle it. And now I
Speaker 15: feel like we're starting to see the drop off I
Speaker 15: think in just overall, like you mentioned yesterday, quality and
Speaker 15: focus and how do you I mean, I don't think
Speaker 15: Mike's record is enough to say I don't want him back,
Speaker 15: but it's not trending in a way that says extend him.
Speaker 15: And Jason Garrett was given the privilege to walk off
Speaker 15: instead of getting fired, is like, what what would it
Speaker 15: take in your perspective for Mike to get those bona
Speaker 15: fides back for you all, and I'll hang up and
Speaker 15: listen all one.
Speaker 5: Thank you for the call.
Speaker 3: Thank you for your contribution to society and being a teacher.
Speaker 8: Freak for freaky, for freaking Mike, job, for freaking Mike.
Speaker 5: To keep his Michael from Pittsburgh, he's got to be
Speaker 5: one game above five hundred for me.
Speaker 8: What yeah, one game before, but above five hundred.
Speaker 4: I think that's at the end of the year.
Speaker 5: At the end of the year, it's seventeen games.
Speaker 8: So if Mike is nine and eight eight, he's good
Speaker 8: enough for me because of what this team has been through,
Speaker 8: what this team is going to go through, a team
Speaker 8: that's trying to build. You've changed, No, I'm not changed.
Speaker 3: What about do they have to make the playoffs?
Speaker 5: No they don't. No, they don't know.
Speaker 4: He's trolling.
Speaker 8: I think everything ex go to Jesse. I already said straight.
Speaker 4: Now your trolley.
Speaker 8: Now you're trolling. Noah, No, brother, I'm really serious. I
Speaker 8: said this at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 5: No, you did not. I'm all about Mike.
Speaker 6: One game over five hundred and no playoffs and he
Speaker 6: keeps his job.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, trolling, Yes, sir, you.
Speaker 6: Almost got me to you almost got me to jump
Speaker 6: off side, Sir, you al you almost got me, almost
Speaker 6: got me.
Speaker 5: They knew.
Speaker 8: I have done a survey and it's almost this whole
Speaker 8: building of accent.
Speaker 5: Have I not asked you? Do you like Mike? Give
Speaker 5: me your honest opinion? Do you like Mike?
Speaker 8: Give me I've asked everybody that and I've always said
Speaker 8: before you answered, I like Mike. I want Mike, I've
Speaker 8: always said, And now I'm I'm gonna jump off the train.
Speaker 5: No, Sir, I like Mike. I ain't gonna be like
Speaker 5: Mike because my job. I like, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 3: All right, Jesse, what about you? To get the moniker
Speaker 3: a freaky mic back in him?
Speaker 5: Stay? What what would he have to do this year.
Speaker 4: To super Bowl?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So no NFC Championship game for you? He's still gone, Huh.
Speaker 4: I need super Bowl?
Speaker 5: Really yeah? I need.
Speaker 4: I need to be in the big game.
Speaker 2: Kurt.
Speaker 9: I wouldn't go to super Bowl, but I think he's
Speaker 9: got to win a playoff game for sure. Well to
Speaker 9: get through this. The injuries and you almost lack of talent.
Speaker 6: I want to take that away. I always want to
Speaker 6: not be boys no more. I don't won the playoff game.
Speaker 6: You've changed, But I'm just trying to won the playoff game.
Speaker 9: He's done that, yeah, but not with this lack of
Speaker 9: talent and injuries. So it makes me wonder. And the schedule.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the lack of talent, he's not gonna get there.
Speaker 5: The lack of talent.
Speaker 4: How did we get here?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 6: No, how do we get hit, Kurt? How did we
Speaker 6: get how did we get here?
Speaker 9: Well? I said at the beginning here, I think NFC
Speaker 9: Championship game?
Speaker 4: So how do we get to one? Stick with that?
Speaker 9: But I don't think he's I don't think it's I
Speaker 9: think he's a dead man walking.
Speaker 6: So did y'all happen to hear his boss today? Did
Speaker 6: y'all hear the beeps of that?
Speaker 4: Before?
Speaker 5: I answer that?
Speaker 3: Coach McCarthy is the play caller right in the offensive
Speaker 3: sap opdator right? Okay, So when mister Jones said that
Speaker 3: they weren't what.
Speaker 6: They had words, bad schemes, bad play designs.
Speaker 9: We're designing bad plays or we're designing bad concepts.
Speaker 3: Okay, I just want to make sure I knew the
Speaker 3: roles here before I stepped in.
Speaker 7: It, don't I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to buy saying about me.
Speaker 3: That's not a resounding endorsement for your top employee.
Speaker 4: That playoff, oh YouTube become I don't know who y'all are.
Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I'm being honest with you.
Speaker 5: That's what I feel. I cannot wait till after the
Speaker 5: show and we have real talk.
Speaker 4: And let me be very clear, any change.
Speaker 6: I am not advocating, pushing for, or any of that.
Speaker 4: For a man to lose his job me, Mike will
Speaker 4: be fine.
Speaker 6: Like whether they fire him now or he walks at
Speaker 6: the end of the year. He's made twenty million dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he ain't hurting.
Speaker 3: For them by a nice barn for twenty minutes.
Speaker 5: Because he's not working.
Speaker 8: He's not doing what he's what he's been called to do,
Speaker 8: and that's to be a head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4: No, he hasn't been called to be the head Yes.
Speaker 5: Yes, because what is he doing right now? What is
Speaker 5: he doing right now? He's the head coach at the
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys. So he's been called I will tell you this,
Speaker 5: here's my here's my feelings.
Speaker 3: Even though y'all didn't ask stroll.
Speaker 5: As the camera people can see you doing that.
Speaker 8: He's I don't want Jesse. You know, Jesse, Jesse, don't cuss.
Speaker 8: But after the show, I get a fitted I'm gonna,
Speaker 8: oh my god.
Speaker 4: You get a stern message for me.
Speaker 3: I think as bad as it is right now, and
Speaker 3: as bad as the vibes are about this team, and
Speaker 3: as bad as everything the whole aura of what's going
Speaker 3: on around here from from ownership on down, if he
Speaker 3: turned this thing around and you wound up being eleven
Speaker 3: and six at the end of the season and you
Speaker 3: won one, maybe I think it's gonna take two playoff games,
Speaker 3: two playoff wins. But if you turn that around, I
Speaker 3: don't think you could let him go. I don't think
Speaker 3: the fan base. I think the fan base would.
Speaker 9: I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: I think the fan base.
Speaker 6: I think I think eleven and six and two play
Speaker 6: and two playoff wins foils the plan that the person
Speaker 6: in charge had in place, and that also.
Speaker 4: Gets you fired.
Speaker 5: That's a good point.
Speaker 6: That's just my that's just my thought process. Yeah, because
Speaker 6: now we've we've lost our draft status.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we we we we.
Speaker 6: We've you may have filled the players of the guy
Speaker 6: in charge eleven and six and two plans.
Speaker 5: Against there all. Let's take one more call before we
Speaker 5: get out of here. Who we got Chris?
Speaker 3: We got Chuck D and briggs Bridge City, Texas? Be quick,
Speaker 3: Chuck D.
Speaker 5: How do you feel today to the broadcast?
Speaker 16: Feeling great?
Speaker 5: How you feel like?
Speaker 10: I got heard you talk?
Speaker 5: You're talking slow?
Speaker 16: Well, Nate, This is for you man, Yes, sir, the
Speaker 16: ninety two championship game is my favorite game. I used
Speaker 16: to watch the DVD.
Speaker 5: Which game is that?
Speaker 16: That's the ninety two against the forty nine ers?
Speaker 5: Yes, sirsure, super Bowl run, Thank you sir?
Speaker 16: How did that feel? I mean, did y'all honestly think
Speaker 16: y'are gonna win that game? Or did y'all y'all kind
Speaker 16: of was like, man, we don't know about this.
Speaker 5: No, bro, No we we we win in that thing. No,
Speaker 5: we've gonna be big body banging.
Speaker 8: We were theb We brought the thunder, We set the pace, baby,
Speaker 8: we did all of the all of the crazy plays.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Charles Haley told us we was coming to get
Speaker 8: them boys. He opened it up with a sack on
Speaker 8: his old teammates. Yeah, we knew we was coming to
Speaker 8: get that. Only people that didn't know that was what's
Speaker 8: my man Chris Berman? Because he picked the.
Speaker 5: Forty nine ers and we wrecked his world. Yes, sir,
Speaker 5: he ain't been since.
Speaker 16: That's awesome.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you, thank you for the call, man, appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Thank you for calling Divorce of Reason. Oh and was
Speaker 5: really going on, we will love you. What we doing Cowboys?
Speaker 4: Is Mike on one of your shows this week?
Speaker 5: Who that.
Speaker 7: Is?
Speaker 5: I don't think Shannon will be sure. We uh what
Speaker 5: we do a Cowboys office tomorrow?
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Speaker 6: don't bring.
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