1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Monday, October sixth, twenty twenty five. Welcome 2 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Show, where some of us 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: are still in denial. It's me and your man named 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: G Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones. 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Oh, so, how was the weekend? Anything? Anything interesting happening 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: over the weekend? 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: My favorite team lost. Do you see the cockiness and 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: arrogance of this guy? I get shot at in the 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: intro What I know what you're doing. I know what 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: you're doing. 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 4: Say you'll be fair. There was a lot of big 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 4: talk last week on this show. 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean so in case you missed everything last week. 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Previously on the Fantasy Football Show, Rams played on Thursday nights, 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: and Lakwan and I made a friendly wager that the 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: person who whose team lost that game would have to 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: write a poem honoring and celebrating the winning side of things. 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: And so that's going to happen later on the show. 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: We have time slay it out for it at the 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: end of the show, where Lakwan is going to have 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: to read a little bit of poetry that I'm sure 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: he spent a lot of time aka no time at all. 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: Right over the weekend. 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, and we will get 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: to that at the end of the show. I did 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: have a few thoughts about what happened on Thursday night, 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: and off the top, I just want to say, Lakwan. 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: That I didn't do this to you. You did this 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: to you. 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: And this is going to hurt you a hell of 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot more than it hurts me, because you see, 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: all last week you were walking around the building supporting 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: the Eric Dickerson collection, you know, wearing You're gonna Letterer's 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: jackets and your starter jackets and carrying around your little 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: plastic three D printed hammer, which that you try I 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: had to break side note is blasphemous because if Thor 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: followed the NFL, why would he be a Rams fan 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: when the Vikings are right there. 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: That aside, interesting, I really shouldn't be happy. 40 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: About the Niners beating a bad team because I don't 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: really know what I'll say about the Rams, because because 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: the Rams lost to the Eagles, who I was told 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: are a bad team, and then on Thursday, despite of 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: what my T shirt might say, the Rams lost to 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: the San Francisco thirty nine ers, and I'm calling them 46 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: that because they went into the game without their best 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: pass rusher, losing a couple of defensive linemen, and missing 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: half of their starting offense. Kyle Shanahan didn't have his 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, starting tight end, starting left guard, and his 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: three top receivers. 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: And then what ended up happening. 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: Your defense got dog walked up and down the field 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: by a guy who showed up a Sofi stadium dressed 54 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: like a Batman. 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: Villain of the. 56 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: Week, say yes, seven, I mean, look, it's it's all 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: jokes until Mac Jones poisons Gotham's water supply. Right, speaking 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: of water, Quinton Lake, I'm gonna start calling him Quentin 59 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Drake the way he got beat by Kendrick. 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: It was so. 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 5: That after that final fourth down play, my wife was 62 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 5: in the kitchen shouting. 63 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: Turn the Stevie off, turn a Stevie off. All everyone 64 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: was for Mexico National being rational. Give them what they want. 65 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 5: It's not enough. Puka with ten catches, but it's not enough. 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 5: Staffed with three tunnies, but it's not enough. Kyn Williams 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 5: with a goalie fumble brother that seem is tough, Butteres 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 5: saying I get it. This was a big moment for 69 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 5: you guys, Island game national television against a long time 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 5: division rival with a chance to take over soul possession 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 5: of first place. Instead, what do you get? 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Who's house? Max House? 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: So look, I'm gonna leave it to former Niners defensive 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: tackle and resident philosopher Dana Stubblefield, who many many years 75 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: ago said, same old, Sorry, rams, we got. 76 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: Some news headlines after the weekend, We're gonna start. 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 4: I care respond. 78 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: That is so crazy. 79 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 4: I can't respond to that. I'm gonna let you cook. 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: You got that off. You got that off. 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: There, So I just had my chest. I had to 82 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: get that off my chest. Yeah, we do have some 83 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of stuff to do today. 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna go obviously got the Rookie Report. We'll do 85 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of WTF is going on? We have 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: waiver wire picks, all that kind of stuff. Start with 87 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: some news headlines. One that popped up later in the afternoon. 88 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: And if you were watching the Commanders and Charges, you 89 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: probably you know, I mean, were following along a little bit. 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: But after the game, Omari and Hampton was spotted leaving 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: the stadium in a walking boot. I was telling you 92 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: guys before the show, I've I kind of had that 93 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: game on, was doing some other things getting ready for today, 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: and looked up and I saw Kimani Vadal getting all 95 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: these carries and I was like, well, is he just 96 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: is he just getting a series? 97 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 5: Like what's happening? But they got near the goal line, 98 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: it was still Vidal, So I. 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: Was sort of confused. 100 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I guess for the Commani Vadal hive, 101 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: if any of you still exist. 102 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: I'm kind of happy for y'all. 103 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you this, though we don't know 104 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: yet as of you know, doing this show on Monday morning, 105 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: what Hampton's situation is going to be. But you know, 106 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: knowing what little we know, is it Kimani Vidal season? 107 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I got to be honest, I 108 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: really don't know if it's Kamani Videll season because I 109 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: don't know if they fully trust him to take this 110 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: workload as the RB one. This is a guy that's 111 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: coming off the practice squad just before the season started. 112 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: So I'm looking at this backfields like there has to 113 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: be a mixture of Haskins back there as well to 114 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: where this may be an offense to just switched that 115 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 3: gear into being a heavy pass offense now, like they're 116 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: going to have to switch gears. The drop off from 117 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: Hampton to the I mean, the gap has come on, guys, 118 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: Let's be honest with ourselves. So, like, I get there 119 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: may be volume coming of a Doll's way, but how 120 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: valuable will this volume be? You know, because I don't 121 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: know if he can pick up and put his feet 122 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: in Hampton shoes and have that same outcome, you know, 123 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: Like we just haven't seen that. So I guess a 124 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: waiver wire pickup is something that I will be interested in. 125 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: But I'm not going and dropping like guys that have 126 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: valuable spots on my rosters for a doll when we 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: really don't have the updated news on Hampton just yet. 128 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: This could be precautionary, this could be something that we're 129 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: overseeing or overlooking or whatever the case may be. It's 130 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: just one of those situations that I'm not going to 131 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: react just yet. 132 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably fair. 133 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: I know we'll hopefully get some more news as the 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: week goes along quickly. Look, you guys know the way 135 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: this show works and our luck, you know, the moment 136 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: that we finished recording and post it. You know, he 137 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: something bad could really happen. Who knows, because that's just 138 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: we just have terrible luck like that. 139 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: But for now. 140 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: You've been on this, I'm about to say it's happened 141 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: to us like. 142 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: You you know how this works. So for now, I 143 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: think v Donal will get away rewire later. But Vadal 144 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: is sort of a cautionary ad, hopefully for Hampton's sake, 145 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: for the Charger's sake, for fantasy manager's sake. 146 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: Whatever this is is not serious, and. 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, it's a precautionary thing. But we shall 148 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: find out a little bit later. On other bit of news, 149 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: and this actually was posted before the Eagles played yesterday 150 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: morning against the Broncos. The Eagles say they had no 151 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: plans to trade AJ Brown. We talked last week about 152 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, him doing the whole the enemy speaks kindly 153 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,559 Speaker 1: and holds a knife thing, just posting quotes on social media, 154 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: what have you. I'm obviously not happy with the way 155 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: things are going. 156 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: He did not have a great. 157 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Game on Sunday, DeVonta Smith did all the big plays 158 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: through the air. Devanta was over one hundred yards that 159 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: you think Aj was what five for forty three I. 160 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: Believe was his line on Sunday. 161 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: So the Eagles have no plans to trade AJ Brown, 162 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: so they say Florio for fantasy managers, is it times 163 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: to trade four or trade away AJ Brown? 164 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: I might differ from some others, but I still think 165 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: it's the time to trade four because perception is reality 166 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: in fantasy sports, and the perception right now is that 167 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: AJ Brown's value is down, maybe at the lowest it's 168 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: been since he's became an Eagle. So a big thing 169 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: that I do in fantasy is I try to acquire 170 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: very talented players when their value is at a low. 171 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: And I know this is like three weeks in a 172 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: row of this being the case for AJ Brown, but 173 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: he's still getting big volume and like yesterday, Patrick's ortan 174 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: was on and for over ninety percent of his routes, 175 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 4: he caught four or five targets for forty yards. That's 176 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: a good day against the corner in football. And it 177 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 4: could have been way better because the Eagles lost because 178 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts air maled a wide open AJ Brown for 179 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: what would have been a fifty plus yard touchdown, Like 180 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: he had two to three steps on the nearest defender, 181 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: so he did his job. And I keep saying it, 182 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 4: and I know it's frustrating, and I also think it 183 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: very much So depends on your situation. If you're one 184 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 4: in four, you probably gotta trade AJ Brown. If you're 185 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: four and one, I think that is a good opportunity 186 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: to try to add the talent onto your team, if 187 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: it depends on what your situation is. But I'm gonna 188 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: keep saying it, like we've seen this Hurts and AJ 189 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: Brown combination go off for huge games and huge seasons 190 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: before I know, right now and we could finally talk 191 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: about it. I think that the Eagles offense is broken 192 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: right Like it hasn't been good. They're not winning every 193 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: single game. They probably should be three and two or 194 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: two and three right now. I think you you can argue, 195 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: but yeah, as long as he is getting this sort 196 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: of volume, if you're having a winning record right now, 197 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: I would recommend going and trying to acquire I mean, like. 198 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: Look, I'm sure you're itching to get in here because 199 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: I know you have been sort of on this the 200 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: Eagles stink train for a few weeks. 201 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: I Don'm not good. 202 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't fully agree with your take, but I do 203 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: think there's worth having a conversation, especially fantasy wise, about 204 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: this offense, because yeah, Davonta Smith had a big game 205 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: yesterday and that was great. But I don't know if 206 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: it feels like I'm at a point where beyond Jalen 207 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: Hurts and Saquon there's nobody else I feel confident about it. 208 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: I guess maybe I. 209 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: Can tell myself a story about Dallas Goddard, but that's 210 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: more about the state of tied end versus Goddard individually. 211 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when it comes to Smith and Brown, like 212 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: I like Devonte Smith more than rostering AJ Brown right now, 213 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 3: because it's like I'm not forcing Smith into my lineups, 214 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: Like Smith went into my lineups this weekend because of byes, 215 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: and like, I feel like he is a guy that 216 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: you could really I owned to be a feeling as 217 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: a flex now AJ Brown that cost the price everything 218 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: that we drafted on him, and he's on an offense 219 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: where he's clearly frustrated. I mean, if he crashes out enough, 220 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 3: he might end up in Miami. 221 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 222 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, but it's just not good right now. 223 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: Like I'm going to be strapped to AJ Brown for 224 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks, because after a while, you're 225 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: just gonna chalk it up because I don't see any 226 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 3: fancy rosters out there right now that have good records 227 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: with AJ Brown as their wide receiver one. And I 228 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: feel like a victim is one of the folks out 229 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: there in one of the leagues where I can't trade 230 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 3: him if I wanted to, Like Florio's saying, Tobai Lo, 231 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: I wish I was in that situation where I can 232 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: help out somebody else, like, hey, get AJ Brown off 233 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 3: your roster. 234 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: Man. 235 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: I feel like he's a good player. He can end 236 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: up being my wide receiver three or four. But that 237 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: is not the case. Like some of the folks who 238 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: are stuck with AJ Brown don't even know what the 239 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: correct trade value is. I feel like you're gonna lose 240 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: on that end right now, unless you're getting a Lad 241 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: McConkie back. Like that's literally where I see the levels 242 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: right now for AJ Brown in La McConkie. 243 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned obviously. 244 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: We started this whole conversation with the story that the 245 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: Eagles say they don't plan to trade AJ Brown, which 246 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: I fully like, why would they? 247 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: You know? 248 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: At some point he's going to be crucial to their 249 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: success if they want to have another deep run. But 250 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: you threw out the idea of him going to Miami 251 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: and man with no Tyreek Hill. With Tyreek Hill likely 252 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: maybe have played his final down in Miami, I'm pairing 253 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: him there in that offense would be fantastic. 254 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 4: Miami is going to blow it up themselves. 255 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: That's the problem is that they're They're not They're not 256 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: going to go and give up assets to acquire somebody 257 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: like AJ Brown when this Dolphins team I think is 258 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: going to look drastically different next year. 259 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: Interesting, that is the dream fit from a fantasy perspective. 260 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: It is not for a Bills fan. Hell yeah, why 261 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 4: would I not want the one of the best wide receivers? 262 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: Want another Diva? 263 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: You want another? 264 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: Yes, the Bills have no one who can win downfield 265 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: right now? Your old Dava just put belt to bite 266 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 4: last year, which which Diggs played brake, he played phenomenal. 267 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: I don't get why it's being spun as if like 268 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: Diggs is getting better, Like he's the one who wanted 269 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: to leave, Like why is it getting spun Like he 270 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: got his revenge? Look to the victor goes to spoil 271 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: but I just don't get why that is the way. 272 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: It's being framed, because because we're simplistic and we just 273 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: like the revenge game narrative, like hey, you're playing your 274 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: old team. 275 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: Like he was dancing, going crazy and it's like, dude, 276 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: you want it out. If you wanted to say, you'd 277 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: be in the other locker room right now. 278 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I will say this, And I don't think we planned 279 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: to really talk much about that game. 280 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: Drake May did a lot of Josh Allen's stuff last night. 281 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: Dude, Drake May is so good and I'm so happy 282 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: the world is start and see it. 283 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like. 284 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: That that play late in the game where he's like 285 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: getting change dragged down and just somehow gets it to 286 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs for a first down. 287 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: That was some pure jobs. 288 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: I was at a bar with a bunch of Bills 289 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: fans and he gets wrapped up and we started cheering 290 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: and then he breaks out of it and somehow hits 291 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 4: digs and I was like, that is what I have 292 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 4: been saying for a year now. That makes his kids 293 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: so special. He's balling. 294 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: He is balling. 295 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: I also think, I mean he's been playing well. I 296 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: also think him getting Stephan Diggs more involved, has accelerated 297 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: his rise. 298 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: Yes downfield, that's what that's the difference from what was 299 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: happening in the first couple of weeks. Like keep having 300 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: that boy going down field, man, and you will get 301 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: the product that you got yesterday. 302 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: It's one thing to survive on Hunter Henry and Pop 303 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: Douglas and Kashawan body. It's another thing when you can 304 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: get Stephan Diggs involved in that offense. 305 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: Last point on this game, the Patriots, they must love. 306 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 6: Bad running backs because no matter how many times the 307 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 6: top two guys go out there and fumble and run 308 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 6: into their own lineman and everything, Travion had one snap. 309 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: I want to say, with like a minute left in 310 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: the second half, first half, I'm like, what are we 311 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 4: doing here? Like it just doesn't you can't. You can't 312 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: start him right now because they don't want to use him. 313 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: You know, I've got it with Florida on this one man. 314 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: Like I was watching that games just thinking Mike Rabel 315 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: must have been in some really toxic relationships in the 316 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: past because he can't quit somebody who's doing him wrong 317 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: right now. 318 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: Roder Steven Madreic fumbles every chance he gets. 319 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: Like him and Iron are having a drop off, like seriously, except. 320 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: Tyr's giving him production, right, He's doing things. So yeah, 321 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: it's it's wild because after that fumbleized like, well, this 322 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: has to be Trevion Anderson, right, and then it was 323 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson. 324 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: Of course, I've chalked it up. I'm done. 325 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: I already turned the page, like I already see Mike 326 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: Rabel just likes to be hurt, I mean used in 327 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: the dator whatever, that's your relationship status. Cool, you go 328 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: ahead and do that, because that doesn't make sense. Thank god, 329 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: they wont I mean sorry. 330 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, if Steven you're getting carries and they lose, that's 331 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough fire. 332 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: Everybody get him out. 333 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: That's a tough question to answer for sure. 334 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: So we don't know wtf is going on there. There 335 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: are a few other situations where we're still not sure 336 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: exactly what is happening. We're go take a quick break, 337 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: come back with a little bit of that and a 338 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: rookie report. It's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy 339 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: Football Show. 340 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: So here we are most of the way through Week five. 341 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: We still got the Monday night game between the Chiefs 342 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars, which is surprisingly interesting all. 343 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: Of a sudden. 344 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody anticipated that before the season started, 345 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: but that'll be one. 346 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: To watch for sure. 347 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: But some other things through Week five that have us 348 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: a little bit sideways, making my brain itch a little bit. 349 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: The first one is Florio. 350 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: Derek Henry has now gone four straight games with fifty 351 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: or fewer rushing yards, this time in a game where 352 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: there was no Lamar Jackson and you thought just maybe 353 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: they would lean on Henry a little bit. I mean, 354 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: UCF is going on with Derek Henry in that Ravens 355 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: run game. 356 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: I think it's a number of things, and I spent 357 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: a lot of time yesterday looking into this because I'll 358 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: the curtain back I'm going bowld this week and saying 359 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: to sit Derreck Henry if Lamar Jackson is out, because one, 360 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: he gets game scripted out almost before he steps on 361 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: the field, Like the Ravens are just getting blown out 362 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: by two touchdowns in the middle of the first quarter. 363 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: And I think the Rams, a team that Lakwan knows 364 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 4: very well and maybe Marcus does a little bit, UH 365 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: could put up come on ooints very quickly. And that 366 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 4: is something I worry about their O line is very 367 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 4: banged up right now. So looking at the numbers yesterday, 368 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: it was in his games as a Raven the it 369 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 4: was bottom four in yards before contact, so he's getting 370 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: hit right away yards per carry. Teams are no longer 371 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: giving Henry light boxes like when Lamar's out there, they're 372 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 4: they're loading up front, making life Henry on him, which 373 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 4: which makes sense right Like you're if you're playing the 374 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: Ravens without Lamar twenty two, is the player that you're 375 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: focusing in on. So I think it's a number of things. 376 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: One I also think like, let's remember what Henry was 377 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 4: two years ago in his final year with Tennessee. We 378 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: were starting to write the obituary right and be like, okay, 379 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 4: like he had a fantastic career. He's not that guy anymore. 380 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: So I think Henry is still an excellent running back. 381 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: But I think at thirty two years old, asking him 382 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 4: to carry a team that is missing a ton of 383 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: pieces and banged up O line and can't really run 384 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: block for him, it's just not it's putting too much 385 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: on his plate at this age, I think. Plus I 386 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 4: also think when they fall behind, it's justice Hill that's 387 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: going to come in and get a lot of the snaps, 388 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: So that has me. Plus we saw a little bit 389 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 4: of Keith Mitchell mixed in, so like that scares me 390 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: as well. So it's a lot going wrong for Henry 391 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: right now. And really it's one good game and four 392 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: duds in a row now. 393 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: So we talked about this with AJ Brown. I'll ask 394 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: you about Derek Henry trade four, trade away. 395 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: I'm a little bit more skeptical, only because of all 396 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: the injury the Ravens have. But I think it's very 397 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 4: similar to AJ Brown. If you're sitting there at two 398 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 4: and three or one and four and you feel like 399 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 4: your your season is starting to get away from you, 400 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: I think you do have to probably try to sell 401 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 4: him now. But if you're sitting at like four and 402 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: one and you're or five and oh something like that, 403 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: and you're feeling really good about your team, I always 404 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 4: think then it's worth trying to roll the dice on 405 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: a very talented player like this when when the value 406 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 4: is at the low and it's his value is at 407 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 4: the lowest it's been since he's signed with the Ravens. 408 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has been rough, absolutely, and I think your 409 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: point about James script coming in there is a big 410 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: one just because they're they're getting rolled. And I think 411 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: even when Lamar comes back, because that defense is so 412 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: beat up, they're still going to give up points and 413 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: that they against the. 414 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: Texans like the Rams are gonna be skyt. 415 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: I do think there's value in his name, like there's 416 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: not actual value of what he has done. So like 417 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: if I can trade Derrick Henry, as crazy as it sounds, 418 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: for a Quinn Shawn Jenkins or even a camp scat Boo, 419 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: I would do it right now. Kind of get ahead 420 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 3: of it, because those are both running backs that are 421 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 3: on the train. They're on the arrow that is pointing up, 422 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: and we've seen them ball out the last three games. 423 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't know what is looking ahead 424 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: for Derrick Henry with a banged up Lamar, because I 425 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: do think this alters the entire season for this team 426 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: because the defense ain't gonna get no better. Even with 427 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: the trade deadline, that's not going to help. I don't 428 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: care if they trade for Sauce Gardner. This team overall 429 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 3: is beat up and bad, So like I would rather get. 430 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 4: Away Dawson Game cooked two. 431 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, hey, everybody getting cooked right now, I 432 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: mean injuries and everybody. 433 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: I yeah, and I'm also wondering. I mean, look, there's 434 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: a they're one in four right now. There's certainly, if 435 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: Lamar doesn't play next week, a very real chance. I mean, look, 436 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: even if Lamart does play next week, there's a chance 437 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: that they could be one in five after that. And 438 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: you start to wonder what does that mean for your 439 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: personnel and your usage? 440 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: You know, are you really going to go loading up. 441 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: Derek Henry with touches at one in five when the 442 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: playoffs are maybe not mathematically gone. 443 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 4: But I think win this division. 444 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: Geeesh, that's hard because I think the Browns are the 445 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: scrappiest team of the division, and then you have the 446 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: Steelers who are always going to make the playoffs, and 447 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: then the Bengals are the Bengals. 448 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 4: But it's like, after this Rams game, the Ravens schedule 449 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: does open up. 450 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: It was really the Bears out of the Buy. They 451 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: get the Bears out of the Bay, so that's a 452 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 3: beat up game. 453 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 4: Then they get the Bengals twice, they get the Dolphins, 454 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: they the Jets. Some good running matchups as well. If 455 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: you're looking to acquire Derrick Henry. 456 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 457 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think in terms of winning the division, 458 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: if you are the Ravens, you got to figure out 459 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: you gotta figure out how to win I think ten games, right, 460 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: you know the Steelers with Mike Tom that are going 461 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: to win at least nine. 462 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: You have to beat Pittsburgh twice. You gotta beat him twice. 463 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: You know that Mike Tom is gonna win at least 464 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: nine games because that's just what he does. 465 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: So you got to figure out do you. 466 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: Have nine wins left on the schedule somewhere along the way. 467 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 4: Maybe if they beat Pittsburgh twice, they would only then 468 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: need to make up one more game on the Steelers, 469 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 4: and I think they can do that, so we'll see. 470 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: But definitely not the start anybody had imagined. No for 471 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: the Rams at this point, steaking of running backs who 472 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: aren't doing anything lacan Tyler Baday is now playing more 473 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: snaps than RJ. Harvey at least he did yesterday. You 474 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: said you've turned the page on Travon Henderson. How are 475 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: you feeling about r J Harvey right now? 476 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: The entire book is in the trash can in flames 477 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 3: like as just at this point, because look when I 478 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: see things like this, I like to go back. I'm like, 479 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: all right, what was happening in the game now? But 480 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: they only had one touch but Harvey only had seven. 481 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: And I think Sean Payton was out there trying to 482 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: get things designed for him, trying to get him going, 483 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: trying to get him to be one of the most 484 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 3: dangerous players on the team. But the Eagles, they're just 485 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: a great team on the defensive side. When it comes 486 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: to the trenches and linebackers, these guys were sidelined and 487 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: sideline everything. 488 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 4: For RJ. Harvey. 489 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 3: They always kept a man on him. Even when he's 490 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: running out for routes. It's like, oh my god, bo 491 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: hit him, and then it's like you can't because he's 492 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: so Therefore, it's like he kind of got just pushed 493 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 3: out of the way of the whole entire game, Like 494 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: he got completely just pushed to the side, and the 495 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: ball is handed to JK. Dobbins because that was the 496 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: only thing working for that run game. So Tyler Bday 497 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: getting more snaps than RJ. Harvey doesn't bother me because 498 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: they're all on third down, which again, they kind of 499 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: took Harvey out of the game before the third quarter. 500 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: So it's like nothing that they could do to get 501 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: the run game going with him either because bouncing outside 502 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: wasn't happening because Eagles linebackers like one of the things 503 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 3: that I do like about Sean Payton that is trying 504 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: to get RJ. Harvey involved as much as he can, 505 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: but if it's not going to work, then he's just 506 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: going to pivot the JK and hand him the ball 507 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: like twenty times like he did yesterday. 508 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is undoubtedly JK. Dobbins backfield. Yeah, yeah, 509 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: it's not even a question right now. It's who's fighting 510 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: for those second opportunities, and I guess to. 511 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: Your point, Harvey is kind of getting them. 512 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: But it's still a little bit disconcerting to see that 513 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: Bedet is playing more snaps. 514 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 4: I think gamescript dependent because last week when they had 515 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: a huge lead, it was RJ. Harvey getting a ton 516 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 4: and I know that was a blowout and stuff like that, 517 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: But then this week they're in ketchup mode the whole time, 518 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: and Hayton clearly trust Baby in pass protection more than 519 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: he does Harvey, So I think that had a lot 520 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: to do with it. And I don't know who they 521 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: get next week. Offhand, but like, I don't see the 522 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: Broncos being down two plus scores more weeks than not. 523 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 4: I'm not saying trust RJ. Harvey, but I'm still holding 524 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 4: him on some benches because also if JK, like I know, 525 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 4: we don't wish for injuries, but if something happens to JK, 526 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: it's r. J. Harvey that is going to become the 527 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 4: lead back. 528 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: You gotta think so, you gotta think so. By the way, 529 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: the Broncos are in London next week. They're playing the Jets, 530 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: so that's another early start. 531 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's gonna be an RJ. Harvey game because 532 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: they're gonna have like a three score lead. Did you 533 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: say the gets like Jackson? Like you said the gets, 534 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: I was. 535 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: Like, wow, Ugh Man, Okay, last one for WTF Florio 536 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. 537 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 538 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. That's the tweet. 539 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: Like like he came in, he threw a pass, he 540 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 4: had some carries, he only ran one route. But you 541 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: Juwan Johnson managers be ready because he is going to 542 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: like it. It's so wild to me because like Taysom 543 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: Hills started out as a thing that was like okay, 544 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 4: Sean Payton's trying to force Taysom Hill on us, and 545 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: then he gave him that contract, and the City of 546 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 4: New Orleans was like, we don't care who the coaches, 547 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 4: we need to get Taysom Hill. Like this is his 548 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: third or fourth play caller, still designing touches for Taysom. 549 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 4: I don't think Taysum is going to see enough work 550 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: to be fantasy relevant. I just think he's going to 551 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: wreak havoc on everyone else's fantasy days. 552 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 553 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's gonna be some time when they're 554 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: like inside the five yard line and you started Alvin 555 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: Kamara or Juwan Johnson or somebody like that, and it's 556 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: gonna be a little you know, a rex snap to 557 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: tay some Hill and he's gonna run it in and 558 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: then you're gonna be saying naughty words at your television 559 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: Like that's what's going to happen. 560 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: Speaking of players, I'd be trying to trade based on name. 561 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara, come on down, like I am worried about him. 562 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just it's almost like Spencer Ratler's is not 563 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: aware that he can throw the ball to Alvin Kamara, 564 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: Like he doesn't want to that is a legal play, 565 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: Like you can actually do that, Spencer. It's not a 566 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: big deal. 567 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: But Spence is playing good without doing that. Like I'm 568 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 3: looking at Spence go out there and kind of have 569 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: the confidence that we all know he holds. But like 570 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: he's playing okay football. He is making the Saints, as 571 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: I said before, with the Browns one of the most 572 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: scrappiest teams in the NFL, Like you do not want 573 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 3: to get in a bar fight with this team because 574 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: they're going to be scrappy and they're going to keep fighting. 575 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 3: So I like Spence man. 576 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking up Spencer rattlers numbers before the 577 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: game last week. 578 00:26:53,920 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 4: They're not good. They're better than what it's expected. Sure, sure, 579 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 4: I'll give you that. 580 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: That's that was what I landed on. They are says 581 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: he is in most categories. He's slightly below league average 582 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: and everything. But I think because our expectations for the Saints. 583 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: Were below the floor, you're like, oh, all right, he's 584 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: playing okay. 585 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 4: But like he's not helping any Like I know Rashicha 586 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 4: Heat had a big game this past week, but like 587 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 4: Chris Olave is getting a ton of targets, but he's 588 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: outside the top forty in yards, like he's he's not 589 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 4: really helping us for fantasy, which is what I care about, 590 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: because I don't care about the Saints. Even Jawan Johnson 591 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 4: hasn't been useful the last two weeks. He's been banked 592 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 4: up and that's fine, and some of the matchups are 593 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: hard obviously for a bad Saints offense, but Spence is 594 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 4: keeping them afloat. When Juwan Johnson was like playing well 595 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 4: those first three weeks, the only player that had as 596 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: many targets in fewer yards was chrys Olave Like it's 597 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 4: it's a it's a pure catch thing in a PPR world. 598 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: That's that's what Juwan Johnson and is given us. He 599 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: gets the yeah, he guess. The red zone looks tight end. 600 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: The bar is low for what we expect out of 601 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: a top twelve, top fifteen tight end, and Jawan Johnson 602 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: for the most part, has met that so far this year. 603 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk some rookies here, looking at some of the 604 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: notable rookies from Week five and starting with Dylan Gabriel. 605 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: In that game in London, I've. 606 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: The Browns lose a close one fantasy wise. Gabriel one 607 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety passing yards, two touchdowns, five rushing yards, 608 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: sixteen point one fantasy points. I went back and watched it. 609 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't terrible. It wasn't great. Look the thing the 610 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: thing I did like about Dylan Gabriels he is not 611 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: afraid of a tight window throw like he will he 612 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: will try to fit it in there. If there's a 613 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: defender draped on a guy, he does not care. And 614 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: so like that part is sort of fun interesting. It 615 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: also means that a three interception game is coming. 616 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 4: He's got the arm for that, you know what, He's got. 617 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: The mine for it. 618 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: But right that is that is sort of the thing 619 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: is that like I think in his head it's like 620 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: I can do this and it you know, it's it's 621 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna sort of turn out like like you know, the 622 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: Carlson gift with even like you know, throwing the basketball 623 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: up and like pumping his fist like it's gonna. 624 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: There's gonna be some of those als. 625 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: The other thing I learned abou Dylan Gabriel is that 626 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: he is we He's a wee little man. I noticed 627 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: I saw him after the game. If you saw he 628 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: did like a handshake with Carson Wentz and like Carson 629 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: went to six five, so he's a tall dude, but 630 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: it looked like big brother, little brother sort of thing 631 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: in the hilarious Yeah, he's listed at five to eleven. 632 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: He is not a tall man bying to stretch of 633 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: the imagination. 634 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: But that's either here nor there. The point I was 635 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: really trying to get to is Lakwan. Last week we 636 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: saw Jackson Dark do things and we're like, hey, man, 637 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: you got to go pick him up. After seeing Gillan 638 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel do thing Gilan Gabriel, Dylan Gabriel do things, 639 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: is he worth an ad for fantasy managers. 640 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: Listen, if you have to hit the wire for a 641 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: quarterback at this point, you're not half be about the 642 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: decisions you've have made at quarterback previously, or you're just 643 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: dealing with injuries like everybody else. But like, I don't 644 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: see him having a safe floor. The schedule looks nasty 645 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: in the next three games. I do feel like thirty 646 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: nine percent of his pass is going to the tight 647 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: end unit. Doesn't help our wide receivers. I mean, Isaiah 648 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: Bond looks to be great. I mean he's leading them 649 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: the wide receivers and receiving yards in the last three games. 650 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: So it's like guys are suffering. He is going to 651 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: be dependent on a great run game with Quinn Shawn Jenkins, 652 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: who was bawling out of his mind right. 653 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: Now, and the tight end position. 654 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: Looks great, man, he goes he looks great. 655 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the tight end position seems to be 656 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: his crutch of what he's going to be leaning on. 657 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: Like I said it last week, guys, I think davidn 658 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: Djoku might be back, and here we are. I think 659 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: Harrow fan and Junior still plays a part in that 660 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: creativity that they want on offense, so he remains a factor. 661 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: Thirty nine percent was the target share for that tight 662 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: end unit yesterday, I mean last week. So it's like 663 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: one of those things of like that's going to be 664 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: his crutch and then they're just going to hand the 665 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: ball off twenty times a game to quin Shawn Jenkins. 666 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: So I don't see him having like a high end 667 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: QB two range or anywhere near a QB one that 668 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: you have in starting lineups. But if you're picking them up, 669 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: what do you have to lose? So your record probably 670 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: reflects your decision making right now, that's probably. 671 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 4: Fair for sure. 672 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: Side notes of this Jerry Judy is he's we decide 673 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: he's just a guy, right, Like, we're not trying to 674 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: make Jerry Judy a thing anymore. 675 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: That Winston Dorsey stretch was really fun, but it was 676 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: very manufactured. 677 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, Jameis Winston throwing yolo balls. 678 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: You had the Browns really with no other legitimate pass 679 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: it was. It was Jerry Judy and David and Joku. 680 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: That was it. 681 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: Since then they're kind of forcing Isaiah Bond on us 682 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: too in the way, but he's not catching anything, like 683 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: he's not doing like anything, but he's getting the volume. 684 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 4: So it's like, what are we doing. I think better 685 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: days are ahead for him. I liked him as a prospect. 686 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's I think it's limited. 687 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the floor is low. I think 688 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't think the ceiling is particularly high either, And 689 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: that I mostly a function of the Browns offense more 690 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: than anything else. Jackson Dart, one week after his surprise 691 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: win over the LA Chargers, comes back the next week 692 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: against the Saints. Two hundred and two passing yards, two touchdowns, 693 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: two picks, fifty five rushing yards yay fumbled boo, fifteen 694 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: point five eight fantasy points. You I think, of all 695 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: of us Florida, maybe the biggest Jackson dart stand after 696 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: the first week. 697 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: How are you feeling after Week two? Very good. 698 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 4: I know the turnovers weren't ideal at all, but there's 699 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: gonna be growing pains. I don't think you should bank 700 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: on three turnovers becoming the norm. And the one of 701 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 4: the interceptions was rough, but that could be coached out. 702 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 4: And it's a young player. Stuff like that. What I 703 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 4: care about. He's running another fifty or more rushing yards 704 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 4: for a second consecutive game in the Super Bowl era. 705 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 4: He is the fourth quarterback to run for fifty or 706 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 4: more yards in his first two starts. The other three 707 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: are Randall Cunningham, Lamar Jackson, and Jalen Hurts. I don't 708 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 4: care how it looks on the field if it gets 709 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: fantasy points. It's what I keep saying about justin Fields. Yeah, 710 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 4: it's good, Like, don't watch justin fields if you have 711 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 4: an uneasy stomach. It's going to look bad. But at 712 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 4: the end of the day, he is going to give 713 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 4: you fantasy points. He is the only Him and Lamar 714 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 4: are the only ones with twenty five plus. Now, I 715 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 4: know this is a Jackson Dart thing, but he can run, 716 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 4: and he is on a team that more often than 717 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 4: not is going to be trailing, so I expect him 718 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 4: to have to throw the ball a lot more. Obviously, 719 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 4: wish Milik Nighbors was still out there to have that 720 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 4: number one option, but I still think Dart, if he's 721 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 4: out there on your waivers, I don't think there's another 722 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: quarterback out there who has more upside because for most quarterbacks, 723 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: a three turnover game is single digit fantasy points. For him, 724 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: it was sixteen fantasy points. Like, that's showing you that 725 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 4: the floor is pretty safe. And I think if he 726 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 4: didn't have those turnovers, you're talking about him a seating twenty. 727 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: Again. 728 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: I know we can't just take them away, but like, 729 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: the rushing is going to give him enough upside where 730 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 4: he is going to be fantasy relevant moving forward. 731 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: When you listed off the three other quarterbacks with fifty 732 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: plus rushing yeards, I thought for sure Cam Newton was 733 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: going to be one of those guys. 734 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised he wasn't. Although I will say that 735 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 4: this about Dart, I'm sitting him this week in a 736 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 4: short week against the Eagles. 737 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think that makes sense for sure. 738 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: Again, but if you were in the position that you 739 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: have to start Dylan Gabriel or Jackson Dark, just chalk 740 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 4: it up. 741 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: Your season's over. You're just having fun. You're just having 742 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 3: fun at this point. But I do feel like Dart 743 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 3: will have those spike weeks of course, but I'm still 744 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 3: not happy about what he's doing as a passer, like 745 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: that will give him the edge for me to be like, 746 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 3: oh yeah, I could start this guy, and like if 747 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 3: I have, like Daniel Jones is starting to be Danie 748 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: Jones and have that streak of where he's doing like 749 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: low ing QB two numbers, then I could swap in Dart. 750 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: But no, not right now. I just feel real nasty 751 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: about the whole Dart situation because the wide receivers are suffering. 752 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 3: But shout out Dan Bellinger and Theo Johnson go pick 753 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 3: them up off the waivers because it may be their 754 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: season for the rest of the season. 755 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, THEO Johnson, Like, do we do we get 756 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: any word? Is he bringing donuts for Jackson darr They 757 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: having breakfast and breakfast together. 758 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 3: Apparently they've been making best friends like bracelets and stuff like, 759 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: I don't. 760 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: Know, cool. 761 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 3: Man, he's got that like that, New York will love him, 762 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 3: like as bad as he probably will be. 763 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 4: I think New York will still accept him because he 764 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: comes with orange swag. Why is he gonna be bad 765 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 4: because you get a bad game. But like, I mean, 766 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 4: the first half he hit a bad half. The first 767 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 4: half he was electric, Like I can't wait to see 768 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 4: Jackson darr in his second team, Like I can't wait 769 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 4: to see what he does. 770 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: Already, we've we've already moved him on to another roster. No, 771 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm just being honest. I mean honestly, Look you, I 772 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: mean Sam darn get Sam. 773 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: Donald vibes out of him? Is that what we're doing 774 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: right now? Sam Donald? 775 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 3: Look, man, Robbie Anderson, I mean chosen. Anderson left New 776 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: York and put up a thousand yards in Carolina. I 777 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: mean it's possible. It's one bad half. 778 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: Wait, we're how did Robbie Chosen make it to the 779 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: show today? What is that? 780 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 4: Because when you leave New York you do great things. 781 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, there's there's a lot of Robbie Chose's 782 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: best days are in New York. 783 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot of aura on this team. 784 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: Between between Jackson Dart and Cam Scattaboo, there's a lot 785 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: of aura on this team. 786 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 4: I don't know if camp Scattaboo will last long enough 787 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 4: to be there when the Giants get good, because my god, 788 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 4: does he seek out as much contact as possible every time. 789 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go on social media and you just 790 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: do a search for camp Scataboo runs like you'll get 791 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: a lot of really funny posts popping up, so that 792 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: that'll be interesting. 793 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 2: I'll speaking of rookie running backs, what he marks? We 794 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: were all excited about him. 795 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: He was getting all this opportunity in Houston. Then he 796 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: had twenty four rushing yards. Now he did play the 797 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: most snaps of anybody in that backfield, but didn't really 798 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: get a lot to show for it. So one did 799 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: we did we jump the gun? Or can we tell 800 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: ourselves this is like a game script thing and they 801 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: were saving him. I mean, I don't know, how do 802 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: you feel now we jumped the gun. We can't trust 803 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: this backfield. We can't trust the Texans. Look how they 804 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: handled the Joe Mixon situation. 805 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: What are we doing here? 806 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 3: How do you go from twenty one touches to seven 807 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 3: and your last touch is in the third quarter when 808 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: you guys are blowing them out, Like, I don't understand. 809 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 3: If you want to get the rooky reps and take 810 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 3: over the Joe Mixon rule to be the RB one, 811 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: you should be playing him as much as possible so 812 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: he can get these reps even on a bad defense. 813 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 3: So to me, this was just a spit in our face, like, oh, 814 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: you must have heard the fancy Street Turby about Woody 815 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 3: Marx and how much we love him to mark demiico, 816 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 3: Like what are we doing? Like at the end of 817 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 3: the day, how I look at this. I only started 818 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 3: Woody Marks because I had Swift on By, I had Bijean, 819 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: you know, I had Josh Jacobs, Like I had to 820 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 3: make these moves moving forward, Like I don't know if 821 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 3: I can trust this backfield, like I do feel like 822 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 3: his best days are probably gonna happen on my bench 823 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 3: because I can't bully somebody into my lineup. When again, 824 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: we're not looking for Woody marks on the ground, we're 825 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: looking for the passing options that he I mean, the 826 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 3: PPR upside that he brings, like on the ground, this 827 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: old line of Swiss cheese. 828 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 4: I mean c J. 829 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: Stroud, he's playing a little bit better against batter defenses, 830 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: but that old line is still trash at the end 831 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 3: of the day. So like for me to see what 832 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: he Mark's coming out for Nick Chubb and then Damian 833 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 3: Pierce getting burt, what are we doing? That's real disgusting 834 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 3: for a rookie to do. So, yeah, this was just 835 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 3: a spit in the face in the fantasy streets. Thanks 836 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 3: do we go right? Please don't don't go to the 837 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 3: dark side. 838 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: Don't don't go down the Sean Payton uh you know, 839 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: Mike Rabel, Mike Shift, don't go down. 840 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 4: Just don't do it. 841 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: Don't do it. 842 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 4: Come on, bro, you're supposed to be Come on, man. 843 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: Come on. We appreciate you, Dimiko. Please don't don't do 844 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: this to us. 845 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 4: There's also no rhyme or reason right because like I was, 846 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: like Week four, they were they it was a blowout 847 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 4: and we got a lot of Woody marks. Week five 848 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 4: blowout and it's all Nick Chubb like it. It doesn't 849 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 4: make it like what And like we as fantasy analysts, 850 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 4: we went out there and followed the tea leaves like okay, 851 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 4: game where he gets over fifty percent literally split with Chubb. 852 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 4: The following game he explodes as the RB one, and 853 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 4: then this week it's like, nah, he's a practice squad guy, 854 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 4: and I don't worry about it, like. 855 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 2: You'll be doing so weird, no idea. One last one. 856 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: Mason Taylor for the Jets nine catches sixty seven yards, 857 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: had a two point conversion, seventeen point seven Fantasy points floya. 858 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: I came into the season with Mason Taylor's kind of 859 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: a deep sleeper, you know, end of draft, kind of 860 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: dart throw guy with upside. Because the Jets, certainly in 861 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: my lifetime, have never really had a relevant fantasy tight end. 862 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: Is it time that we maybe start showing Mason Taylor 863 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of love? 864 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 4: One thousand percent. I don't even think it's just like, oh, 865 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 4: pick him up. I think it's picked him up and 866 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 4: starting because I was, Look, I know, not many people 867 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 4: were locked into that Jets game yesterday. I was very 868 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,919 Speaker 4: locked into that even throughout the fourth quarter. As someone 869 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: who has justin fields on so many fantasy teams. Everything 870 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 4: like it was just constant Mason Taylor underneath, Mason Taylor underneath, 871 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 4: And I know it's easy. People are like, oh, well, 872 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: it happens in garbage time. The Jets are going to 873 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: be in garbage time more often than not, like it does. 874 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: If it's a close game, we've seen fields produced. If 875 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 4: it's a garbage time game, we've seen him produce. And 876 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 4: what that usually means is a lot of just throwing. 877 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 4: And they have one option who could win downfield. It's 878 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson, and defenses know that, so they overload him 879 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 4: and then you just get Mason Taylor running free underneath. 880 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 4: And he's doing exactly what I thought he would do 881 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 4: when I watched him as a prospect. It's like he 882 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 4: will take what the defense gives him and gets you 883 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 4: nothing more. And that's exactly what he's doing. But it's 884 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 4: moving the chains and people on the curtain. I have 885 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 4: him as a start and start him, sit him this week. 886 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I mean, look, I thought there was 887 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: something there. Look, we know rookie tight ends aside from 888 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: a handful, right, it does take them a little bit 889 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: of time to sort of get involved and be productive. 890 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: Not everybody's gonna be Rock Bowers or Sam Laporta or 891 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: anything like that, but Mason Taylor seems like he has 892 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity, especially on a team that beyond Garrett Wilson, 893 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: there are no other real pass catches. I know they 894 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: get it's to Breeze Hall, but they don't have any 895 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: other guys really to throw the football too besides Garrett 896 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: Wilson right now, Rynolds Tyler Johnson, like I have a 897 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: ton of Mason Taylor in basketball leagues. 898 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 3: Like over summer, I was the smash mass matches my 899 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 3: tight end too, So I'm. 900 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 4: Happy about that. 901 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: But I knew it'll take like some type of ramp 902 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 3: up here, like it'll have to be patient because again 903 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 3: justin fields. 904 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see, but there's definitely been signed, especially the 905 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I think back to back weeks 906 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: with double digit PPR points for Mason Taylor, so very 907 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: much in the conversation. 908 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 2: Well, we are not done. 909 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some waiver wire picks when we come back, 910 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: and the. 911 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 2: Quan has a special poetry moment coming up. Stick around 912 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 2: for more of the NFL Fantasy Football Show. 913 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: So as we get ready to dive into Week six, 914 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna put Week five behind us at this point, 915 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: so I'm looking ahead two week six. 916 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: We're obviously talking about. 917 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: Injuries, guys, who underperformed, which means another trip to the 918 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: waiver wires of Florida. You put together list who should 919 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: folks be keeping an eye out for. 920 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 4: I think Jackson Dart, We spoke about him. He's in place. 921 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 2: C J. 922 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 4: Stroud, I knows on Bay this week, but coming off 923 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 4: of his two best games and over a year, Sam 924 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 4: Darnold looking more and more comfortable and just putting up 925 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 4: numbers right now with Seattle, Rico'dowdell. I know Chuba Hubbard 926 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 4: could be back, but how could you ignore Rico with 927 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 4: what he did. I think he might see some work 928 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 4: even when Cuba returns. Kamani Videll got a monitor that 929 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 4: Hampton situation, Michael Carter and de Mercado. I'd even add 930 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 4: Beam Knight into that, like it's gross, but they're getting touches. 931 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 4: Michael Carter obviously being the top dog there, Candre Miller, 932 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: Keaton Mitchell just because if anything happens to Derrick Henry, 933 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 4: I think Keaton Mitchell has like RB one upside if 934 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is there. And then Taj Spears returned this week. 935 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 4: Not a great week at wide receiver, but Josh Downs 936 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 4: had eight targets. Isaiah Bond was the number two target 937 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 4: for the Browns. Rashid Shahid we know what he is, 938 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 4: but he does bring upside. Christian Kirk had a long 939 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 4: catch and starting to get more involved there, Kendrick Bourne 940 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 4: just because how can we ignore what he did? And 941 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 4: then Ryan Floorinoyd like this could be a one week thing, 942 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 4: but he had nine targets and then at tight End 943 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 4: already spoke about Taylor. Aj Barner had a huge day 944 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 4: this week. Theo Johnson had two touchdowns and Daln Schultz 945 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 4: don't look now, but he's he is low key becoming 946 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 4: a safe floor not much upside tight End. 947 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: Ops, you mentioned Rico Dowdell and you know, I don't 948 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: know if you saw his comment to the Cowboys after 949 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: the game yesterday. 950 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: He told the Cowboys to buckle up. 951 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah he talking Spike you. 952 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 2: I mean, you're right. 953 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: You run for two bills in a game and you 954 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: see what that Cowboy defense looks like. And this really 955 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: is a revenge game because the Cowboys decided to move 956 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: on from him and he ends up in Carolina. So yeah, 957 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see what what he does. 958 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: But he's he's. 959 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 4: Fired up him and Shavante got the same contract, so 960 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 4: like it's not like they went cheaper or anything. They 961 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 4: just chose someone else. 962 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 963 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Javonte's bawling now he is. He's playing great. 964 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, anyway, more waiverwire stuff. 965 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,919 Speaker 1: You always go to NFL dot com slash waiver wire 966 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: to get some more information on things about that. So 967 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: it is time and man, look the wager was made. 968 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers were victorious on Thursday night, and 969 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: so I'm very curious about your look man, you were 970 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: you were a rapper once upon a time. You know, 971 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: they're still apparently YouTube videos of floating around of you 972 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: out there, you know, dropping bars. So I'm very curious 973 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: about your your ode to the San Francisco forty nine ers. 974 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: Why I give you the floor. 975 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 3: Don't smile doing this at all, Like I don't want 976 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 3: you to find no joy in this. And like I 977 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 3: will say, I wrote this very fresh after the game, 978 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 3: like Amazon was still doing their posting it and like 979 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 3: I'm just in my notes just having a lot of 980 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: anger and passion going into this. But I think I 981 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 3: came out with something good. 982 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: This is before you you made that Emo TikTok video 983 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: of you stand out so far, Yes, five o'clock in 984 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: the morning or whatever it was, right, it was before that, 985 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: It was before that. 986 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 3: I really don't want to do this, Like I hope 987 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 3: this isn't good, Like. 988 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 2: I was, like, I need to read a poem on 989 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 2: the show. 990 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 3: But it's the context that I have to say something 991 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 3: about y'all, like I do not like y'all at all, 992 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 3: Like it is what it is. 993 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 4: But I am a man of my word. I will 994 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 4: do it. So let's get started, all right. 995 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 3: In the clash of rival foes, beneath the glaring light, 996 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 3: a warrior rose, fierce, igniting hope. In the fight, mister Jones, 997 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 3: the steadfast guy, through chaos, endless night, stoic, mass in place, emotionless. 998 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 3: In the post game, in the veins that wildfire surgis, 999 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 3: mister Jones, unbound, untamed, conquering the shadows and random pages. 1000 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 3: The rest is earned from blows that thunder fierce. In 1001 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 3: the wake, the core stands uncracked. These scars will fade 1002 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 3: victory say his name. 1003 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: I thought that was well done. That was well done, 1004 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: very poetic, Very don't a lot of good imagery there, 1005 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: thought I thought it was. I thought it was a 1006 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: well written poem. 1007 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1008 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,919 Speaker 4: That was draft number three. 1009 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 3: The first two were not appropriate. 1010 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 4: It was a lot of anger. 1011 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: That's for the end of the pay per view show. 1012 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 4: I really thought it was just gonna be all Kiren 1013 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 4: bashing and then like. 1014 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm proud of you. That was well done. 1015 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 4: That was homage to mister mac Jones. 1016 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 2: Joe. He earned it. He earned it for sure, So 1017 00:46:59,560 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 2: thank you. 1018 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 4: Some would say. 1019 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 3: That poem maybe inspired and could be just talking about 1020 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 3: myself the entire time, but I would just let that go. 1021 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'm think anybody's buying that one. So anyway, 1022 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 2: here's the now. I mean, I know they play one more. 1023 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: Time and in a few more weeks up in the 1024 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: Santa Clara Week ten. 1025 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 2: I'm like, obviously I want the Niners to win. 1026 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: But the fact that you know they already that they 1027 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: came to Levi's South and. 1028 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: Gotta win, that that already warms my heart. 1029 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 7: So you're gonna say that to you know what, Thank 1030 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 7: you forty nine Ers frans showing up to a ram stadium, 1031 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 7: paying the bills and keeping us running because our stadium 1032 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 7: looked ten times better than what the heck you guys 1033 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 7: got up there, which is not in San Francisco. 1034 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: It's funny. You just you just you basically just made 1035 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: yourself the Chargers. 1036 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 3: Loo, we don't even acknowledge them. The Chargers are like 1037 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 3: the Bobcats of the NFL. 1038 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 2: You were just amazing. 1039 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: You're like, hey, thanks for You're like, thanks for coming 1040 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: to our stadium and filling it up, because otherwise, you know, 1041 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if we'd have filled all the sea 1042 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: were you just made yourself the Chargers. So congrats on that. 1043 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 3: Who wants to go to SOFI to watch the game 1044 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 3: with forty nine Ers fans? Like it's not an enjoyable experience? 1045 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 3: Like have you been to the one of those games? 1046 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 3: Like it's not great? I have actually and I had 1047 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 3: a great time. 1048 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course because you were part of the toxic party. 1049 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 2: I just came back and won a week seventeen game. 1050 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: You know, at the end, it was it was a 1051 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: really great experience, and I was able to share it. 1052 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 2: About some people wearing red and gold. It was it 1053 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: was a wonderful day. 1054 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 3: This is how I know you guys aren't great fans 1055 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 3: because the first thing you guys say, oh you you 1056 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 3: when you lost to a practice squad, you lost to JVS, 1057 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 3: Like that's the product that you think went out there, 1058 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 3: Like there is no credit given to your coach, Kyle Shanahan, 1059 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 3: Like we have to give him his flowers for him 1060 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 3: to even get guys off the street, off the couch, 1061 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 3: guys that have been on practice squads everywhere else in 1062 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:47,720 Speaker 3: the league. 1063 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 4: You told me, you told. 1064 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: Me before the game that if they were losing a halftime, 1065 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: Sean McVay should be fired. 1066 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, who should they hire as their 1067 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 4: new coach? 1068 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 2: Who's on the short list for Stan Cronkey right now? 1069 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 3: No comment anyway, moving on, Give it's to Kyle Shanahan, man, 1070 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 3: because for. 1071 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 7: To be able to take his system and for guys 1072 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 7: to play it at the highest. 1073 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: Level, you got to give them credit. And that's my 1074 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,280 Speaker 3: birthday twin, you know, Like I always respect Kyle Shannon. 1075 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 4: I just don't. 1076 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 8: Respect Shanahan and his nightmare. No, listen, I have my 1077 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 8: own anger. It's not even at forty nine ers this week. 1078 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 8: It's not even at them. It's just we're on to 1079 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 8: the next All my anger is pinned in house. I 1080 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 8: have my issues with McVeigh and obviously my issues with Kiren, 1081 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 8: but I will save that for off air conversations because 1082 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 8: you're not appropriate. 1083 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 2: That feels like a good way for us to butt 1084 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 2: this episode. It's been it's been a fun episode. 1085 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: Honestly, I want to say since Thursday night, I've kind 1086 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: of been looking forward to this episode today. 1087 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, twisted the knife, buddy, it was. 1088 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 2: It was every chob. I'm done now right. You know 1089 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 2: we're on. 1090 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: We're on to the next you know, it's onto a 1091 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: really tough matchup this week in Tampa. 1092 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 2: It's that's not gonna be easy. So I've moved on. 1093 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: I got what I needed out of this exchange. I 1094 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: am fulfilled, my soul is at peace, and I move 1095 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 1: on to week six. 1096 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 2: So there we go. 1097 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: I anyway, meantime, I'll do it for this edition of the 1098 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy for both podcasts. 1099 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: Stay happy, Saved, Helvy, do good, and live well. 1100 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 1: Enjoy poetry, everybody, and we will talk to you again 1101 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. 1102 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 5: Wow.