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Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday. Welcome in. There is a lot

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Speaker 1: You know we're getting into injury reports now. Jmac are

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Speaker 1: very crucial for quarterbacks and perspective because people are going

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Speaker 1: crazy on stuff. I think we would both agree the

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a game by game. The two best

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks I've ever seen here Andrew Luck who won

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Speaker 1: didn't never write GM, didn't never write a line, didn't

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Speaker 1: never write anything. And then Jayden Daniels last year, who

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Speaker 1: you know, ends up at the NFC Championship. I mean,

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Speaker 1: those guys looked just unbelievable. Bo Nicks was good. Jayden Daniels,

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Speaker 1: you know there were times here like he's the third

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Speaker 1: fourth best quarterback in the league. So sometimes we lack perspective.

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Speaker 1: And yesterday Mike Sando, who will be joining us in

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Speaker 1: a couple hours, he came out with his annual survey

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Speaker 1: of fifty NFL executives. It's called quarterback Tiers, And it

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Speaker 1: should be noted that Jade and Daniels, the rookie got

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Speaker 1: But it is interesting. Here's where it's different from Andrew

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Speaker 1: Lucky Daniels got some breaks. Number one, he didn't go

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Speaker 1: And he wasn't the number one pick. He was the

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Speaker 1: Here's who did Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, Justin Herbert, Trevor

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Speaker 1: I mean a great example is Bo Nicks. Half the

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Speaker 1: many breaks he got I mean the owner sharp, the

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Speaker 1: So two things can be true. I think he's just

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Speaker 1: the real life. It brought. Perty's career reminds me a

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Speaker 1: And that's the stage I believe we're going to be

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Speaker 1: at by mid to late October arguing about Brock. Perty.

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Speaker 1: What do you do? This is a challenge.

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Speaker 3: I meant, there's possibilities later not are guaranteed, but you know,

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Speaker 3: and there's lots of things that tied to that. Who's available,

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Speaker 1: Year and by the way, over the next several years.

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Speaker 1: Brock now makes more money, so you just can't go shopping,

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Speaker 1: So all this stuff matters. Jaden Daniels my theme to

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Speaker 1: it was early. A lot of people beat Joe Burrow early. Right,

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Speaker 1: So when he played Jalen and Baker and Lamar and

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Speaker 1: a whole different ballgame. And brock Purty was overvalued early.

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Speaker 1: Hudson's story, it's got some youth that's got Belichick. But

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Speaker 1: Dion made his hay in the NFL as a player.

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Speaker 1: Belichick made his hay in the NFL as a coach.

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Speaker 1: On Sundays and they both opened with TCU. Dion blew

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Speaker 1: them out. Belichick's an underdog. So is that TCU Carolina

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Speaker 1: I think Dion and Belichick, you'd think they're totally different,

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Speaker 9: Chidure Sanders and Cleveland radio host Tony Grosi in the Tunnel,

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Speaker 9: filmed by Schidour's younger brother.

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Speaker 6: Grocey told his side of the story yesterday on the radio.

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Speaker 11: He left the podium to walk into the locker room,

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Speaker 11: and I called his name to ask him another question,

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Speaker 11: and that's when we discussed what was on his mind.

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Speaker 11: It was fine. I was a little bit surprised that

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Speaker 11: on his big night, and it's a big night for him,

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Speaker 11: considering all the circumstances that he would raise this. I

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Speaker 11: thought that's why I thought he was joking. You know,

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Speaker 11: it shouldn't have been that big a deal on his

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Speaker 11: mind after his big night.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. It's your first preseason game. That should

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Speaker 1: not be what you're thinking about. That's the judgment and maturity.

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Speaker 1: He's got to get better at the speeding tickets, the

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Speaker 1: legendary draft room, like like like that should not that's

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Speaker 1: not what you should be thinking about. Like, get over

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Speaker 1: local radio guy, even if he's popular.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the guy's like, what is he twenty three,

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Speaker 9: twenty four?

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Speaker 6: He's a young dude.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, back in your young ra hey day

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Speaker 9: in the radio career.

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Speaker 6: Now, I got slighted by someone. You would probably let

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Speaker 6: him know.

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Speaker 1: To Colin, No, by the way, when you're young, doctor

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Speaker 1: at twenty five slices and artery, are you gonna be

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Speaker 1: okay with him saying Hey, j Mac, I'm you young.

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Speaker 1: I was at a Sennor Froggy's last night half in

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Speaker 1: the time of my life, a third Morgarita quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying there are professions pilot, surgeon, quarterback where unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: you have to be uniquely mature at twenty four to

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Speaker 1: twenty five years old. This is not I didn't have

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Speaker 1: to be. I'm reading sports scores. Nobody cares. That's fair?

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Speaker 9: Uh, I mean, I mean, I Colin, I agree with you,

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Speaker 9: not a great look.

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Speaker 6: But I also remember what I was like as a

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Speaker 6: young more.

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Speaker 1: You weren't a quarterback. I know you were a blogger.

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Speaker 1: I think there is even a lower standard than what

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 9: Probably, yes, especially in two thousand and eight or whatever.

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Speaker 9: But again, remember, young people do dumb things. We've got

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Speaker 9: to get them a little bit of leeway. Now, the

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Speaker 9: multiple speeding tickets I think is much worse than this

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Speaker 9: encounter in the tunnel, right, I mean to one hundred

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Speaker 9: miles an hour fun, that's not oh.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're endangering other people's lives. Yes, but on a

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Speaker 1: scale they're all silly'd be serious again, twenty five year

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Speaker 1: old men are not serious, except I want them to

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Speaker 1: be as a pilot, as a quarterback, and as surgeon.

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Speaker 1: You've got to be more safe if you're not. By

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Speaker 1: the way, same with stockbroker. I don't want a twenty

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Speaker 1: four year old handling my money, even if you're I

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Speaker 1: just don't. I want somebody who's been through two or

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Speaker 1: three recessions, doesn't freak out, has dealt with you know,

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Speaker 1: has dealt with the market for twenty or thirty years.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's why my broker's not twenty four years old.

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Speaker 1: Like I just don't trust in most critical situations a

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Speaker 1: twenty four year old male.

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Speaker 6: I think that's a good call.

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Speaker 9: Unfortunately, owners in the NFL don't have that luxury. You

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Speaker 9: got to find the next superstar in I'm just more

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Speaker 9: shocked that he's still fourth on the depth chart, but

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Speaker 9: that's another time.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna we're gonna address that. I think that's

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Speaker 1: very legitimate. J Mack with the News, Well, that's the news,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've been I've been arguing that singular top. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it was so funny. So this morning I looked up.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you the place, but there's

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Speaker 1: a it's a country club, but it's a nine hole course,

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Speaker 1: and it's just a lot of times I don't have

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Speaker 1: time to play eighteen, I want to play nine. And

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Speaker 1: I was looking it up and it's a nine hole

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Speaker 1: course somewhere in the country. It's very, very nice, but

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Speaker 1: it's not too fancy. But I looked at their requirements

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Speaker 1: and one of their requirements at the very top was

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Speaker 1: hats or visors have to be worn forward. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: can keep telling me, Hey, I was over at my

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Speaker 1: uncle Teddy's knocking down some Bruski's at the barbecue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you wear your hat on backwards.

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Speaker 1: But at a nine whole golf course, advisors got to

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Speaker 1: be front, hats got to be front. And so yes,

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Speaker 1: there are some environments in which we were asking you

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Speaker 1: no Jeanes hat on forward, no profanity, no and quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, ninety percent of you get this.

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Speaker 1: Like the ten percent that don't are the ones on

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Speaker 1: X also big bitcoin investors and bigfoot hunters, So I

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Speaker 1: mean most of us all get this stuff. But you know,

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Speaker 1: there are just certain things in life where dress matters.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not a guy that's in you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a six country club guy. It's not my scene.

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Speaker 1: I respect people who are, but there are environments where

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Speaker 1: we needed to be like a little bit more mature

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Speaker 6: It's a battle in the.

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Speaker 9: NL East as the Braves take on Juan Soto, Francisco

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Speaker 9: Lindor and the rival Mets at.

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Speaker 6: Seven BM Eastern on FS.

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Speaker 1: One we have very interesting discussions during the breaks. I

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Speaker 1: have like a rule with my family. I had to

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Speaker 1: tell my daughter the other day as a family, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is elitist. We do not fly

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Speaker 1: any airline that's the same color as a highlighter. We

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Speaker 1: do not fly bright yellow airlines. And it's my theory

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Speaker 1: is any boardroom that decides that's a great looking color

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Speaker 1: in the sky the same as lightning, I'm not flying it.

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Speaker 1: So we do Delta an American and British and Air

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Speaker 1: Canada and Swiss and Luftanza and KLM and Singapore and Emirates.

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Speaker 1: I've never flown, but it's supposed to be boushie. But

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Speaker 1: if you're bright yellow, we're not flying you. And that's

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Speaker 1: just my theory is if you're the same color as lightning,

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Speaker 1: we're not flying you. That management team has made bad decisions. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I thought it was a little weird. The Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Brown's second day chart of the summer came out. Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 1: Kenny pick Att, Dylan Gabriel and Schnor Sanders is fourth,

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Speaker 1: the guy who played Friday and was really good. So

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Speaker 1: and it reminded me of something. Is that I used to.

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Speaker 1: Right out of college, I got a job with a

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Speaker 1: minor league baseball team, And if you were a twentieth

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Speaker 1: round draft pick and hit three p seventy in the

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Speaker 1: spring and from a center field position, you still wouldn't

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Speaker 1: make the major forty man roster. But if you were

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Speaker 1: a first round pick who hit two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: at the same position, you probably would. There's politics, there

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Speaker 1: is pick equity, there's validation of choices by general managers.

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Speaker 1: And I noticed this a lot, the politics of it

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Speaker 1: when I worked in minor league baseball. Guys would have

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Speaker 1: great springs and not make the forty man roster. My guy,

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Speaker 1: he's a twenty seventh round pick, and like Schnur's a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick, and the team, the GM and the

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Speaker 1: coach put the third round pick. You know, that's the

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Speaker 1: one they were trying to sell.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think Dylan Gabriel's an NFL quarterback, maybe

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Speaker 1: a backup. He's just too small. But you've got to

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Speaker 1: give Shadoor Sanders credit. A lot of pressure on him

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Speaker 1: Friday and it's pretty good, Okay, arm movement and can

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Speaker 1: we stop with he's not athletic enough. I'm watching again

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Speaker 1: this morning. He's athletic enough. There's one play against Carolina.

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Speaker 1: He's spinning around and this is more athletic than half

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the NFL. Flush to the left, spins,

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Speaker 1: spins again, and then in a front rate that is

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Speaker 1: more athletic than all but about ten guys in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's a very athletic quarterback. And we know he's accurate.

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Speaker 1: So and by the way, Shadour is their only healthy

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Speaker 1: quarterback right now. Is that not a skill? Was that

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Speaker 1: not a skill for Eli Manning and Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: Brett Farv He's healthy, Little Dylan Gabriel's dot, Kenny Piketts

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Speaker 1: banged up, Deshaun Watson can't get his act together or

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. Now. Joe Flacco's fine, He's going to be

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Speaker 1: the starter. But my point is is he's healthy. You

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Speaker 1: deserve credit for that. He was good Friday, You deserve credit.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at his throws downfield. You can dink

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Speaker 1: and dunk your way to a really nice sixty nine

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Speaker 1: percent completion percentage on throws ten plus yards downfield, had

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty nine passer rating. Those are the

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Speaker 1: throws that matter. Again, not with a very good receiving corps.

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Speaker 1: I mean they are one of the weaker receiving cores

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Speaker 1: in the league. So I do think it's a little odd.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's rooting against him, but it is

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Speaker 1: a little odd that you'd put out the second depth

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Speaker 1: chart and he's fourth. He's available, he's healthy with is

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Speaker 1: this gil? He played and he played well, So I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like me trying to read the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown sensibility on quarterbacks is like trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out J Loo's boyfriends. I don't know what he's looking

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Speaker 1: for at this point, young, old, funny academic. I can't

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Speaker 1: I can't follow J. J Low's boyfriends. I can't follow Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: They loved didn't just like they love Manzell's cockiness. They

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Speaker 1: loved Baker's hutspa. They overlooked Deshaun Watson's weirdness. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Chador's not serious enough for my taste yet. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: grows into it, but I I think sometimes he has

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Speaker 1: to grow up. Some don't overlook the obvious. He's accurate,

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Speaker 1: he moves well. Deon Sanders gave him some, you know, advantages.

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Speaker 1: His dad was a coach. He also by the way

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Speaker 1: in college had forty one total starts that matters, Like

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson at Florida had thirteen looks raw at different

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Speaker 1: levels of football, should have had forty one college starts.

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Speaker 1: Dad's an all time legend. That's a football family best

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Speaker 1: friends with Travis Hunter. So now he's not legendary like

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Speaker 1: his draft room said. But I think we have to

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Speaker 1: be fair here. He's not serious enough for my taste

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Speaker 1: at this point in his life. But you can't watch

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Speaker 1: Friday and tell me you know he's kind. He's just

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Speaker 1: a pocket guy. No he's not. No, he's not. That's

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Speaker 1: not fair. He's not just a pocket guy. Here is

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Speaker 1: a Kevin Stefanski yesterday on the Browns sort of odd

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Speaker 1: quarterback room.

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Speaker 5: Dylan can do some eleven on eleven. Obviously, we're still

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Speaker 5: mindful of his tightness in the hamstring. Kenny not just

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Speaker 5: yet eleven on eleven, But both guys progressing well.

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Speaker 2: Do you expect shug Or to start Saturday.

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Speaker 5: I'm not there on the game itself. Ill by Wednesday Thursday,

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Speaker 5: I have a better feel for the game and how

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Speaker 5: we're gonna handle that.

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Speaker 1: Now. I pushed back greatly when an announcer for the

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Speaker 1: other networks that he is being sabotaged. That's nonsense. They

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Speaker 1: want him to flourish. But now that he has flourished

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Speaker 1: and is healthy, it seems to me there you would

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Speaker 1: reward him. Now there is the possibility of this famous dad,

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Speaker 1: legendary draft room. They are tempering the hype. Their take is, listen,

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Speaker 1: we're giving him easy stuff. But if you're giving him

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Speaker 1: easy stuff and he's throwing to a week receiving room

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Speaker 1: and as one hundred and forty nine quarterback rating on

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Speaker 1: throws of ten yards down the field, then he's probably

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Speaker 1: better than you think. And we also players drop in

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Speaker 1: the draft for a lot of reasons. A lot maturity

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Speaker 1: I think really hurt him. But let's also be fair.

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Speaker 1: People that we respect, I mean Jmack and I. There

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Speaker 1: are certain people we both bring on our shows or podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah is somebody that I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: respect for. Daniel Jeremiah had a first round grade, so

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Speaker 1: it's not like I get the legendary stuff. He butchered

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants interview. I have now had that

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Speaker 1: validated by two people with very close contacts to the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants. It was awful. It was worse than

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Speaker 1: what was reported. It was because the Giants don't want

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Speaker 1: to make him look bad. It was bad and legendary

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Speaker 1: speeding tickets. But the speeding tickets were pre drafts, so

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Speaker 1: he was underdrafted. Obviously, brock Perty was underdrafted. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: was underdrafted because Brady did have some success at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: But here's Matt Hasselback yesterday on Shador in the entire saga.

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Speaker 7: Will the Cleveland Browns have the courage to keep four quarterbacks?

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Speaker 7: And courage is the word I'm using because it's like

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Speaker 7: no one else does that. It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 7: This is a team that has gone without a quarterback

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Speaker 7: for so long that they might just say, hey, and

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Speaker 7: it's that important of a position. We like what we

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Speaker 7: have here, the traits that he's showing, let's hold on

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Speaker 7: to him and develop him on the field. He doesn't

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Speaker 7: give me pause at all. He doesn't worry me at all.

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Speaker 1: The other thing about availability, because Dylan Gabriel's hurt, is that,

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Speaker 1: I know it sounds weird to say availability is a skill,

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Speaker 1: but I think anything you practice is a skill. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady practiced getting sacked. Lamar Jackson practiced being a better

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Speaker 1: slider when he ran. He wanted to slide better. Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson and Kyler Murray had baseball backgrounds day one. They

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Speaker 1: were great at avoiding big contact. Not getting hit is

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Speaker 1: a skill, and when you're practicing not getting sacked. So

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Speaker 1: Shadur Sanders for all the misgivings I have with his

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Speaker 1: speeding tickets, He's not getting hurt. And there now, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you bang your left hand on a helmet. Again. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady before the AFC Championship game had a gash on

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Speaker 1: his throwing hand, like he had to wear a glove.

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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember seeing a picture of it. It

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Speaker 1: was ghastly. It was awful, and he ended up winning

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Speaker 1: the game. So accidents do happen. But I would give

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Speaker 1: I if everybody was I know this, If I was

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Speaker 1: a coach and everybody was hurt and that kid was healthy,

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Speaker 1: I would maybe unfairly view him. I would move him

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Speaker 1: up the roster. I'm like, well, the kid's healthy, he's

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Speaker 1: ready to play. Because in the NFL, everybody's hurt, even quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's banged up football. You know, we've all if even

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Speaker 1: in high school level. Football practice is physical. Basketball practice

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Speaker 1: is fun. Ground ball's baseball practice, lacrosse practice, those are fun.

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Speaker 1: Football practice is not that fun. It's really not that fun,

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Speaker 1: even if you play quarterback. All right, j mac nick

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Speaker 1: Wright's going to be joining us next hour, at the

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Speaker 1: very top of the hour. So tomorrow, Now, later in

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Speaker 1: the show, Mike Sando, who did the quarterback tiers, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to ask him about what people said, because what's

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Speaker 1: fascinating he had fifty different people, six gms, six assistant gms,

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Speaker 1: six former gms, and those quotes are anonymous. So a

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Speaker 1: couple of coaches came out and hammered Kayleb Williams processing.

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Speaker 1: But I'm also interested. I'm going to ask him about

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Speaker 1: what a lot of the people said off the record

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Speaker 1: on Bo Nicks, Jordan Love, JJ McCarthy, Althothough we don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot on him and Kayleb Williams. So it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a very interesting interview. The other thing

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Speaker 1: to think about tomorrow, I have two more opportunities to

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Speaker 1: change my NFL standing picks. So last year we got

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Speaker 1: the AFC division winners. All right, I'm going to make

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Speaker 1: one two major moves, so I do think preseason matters.

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Speaker 1: You look at injuries. I am making one major AFC

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Speaker 1: move and one substantial NFC move, both with playoff teams.

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Speaker 1: So I think you. I do think I do think

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Speaker 1: preseason matters. I'll just tell you right now, losing Rashawn

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Speaker 1: Slater at left tackle for the Chargers is a real problem.

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Speaker 1: That is a real Thank god Harbaugh drafted Joe Ault.

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Speaker 1: If they'd have gone receiver, they would be in that division.

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Speaker 1: With Denver's pass rush in Kansas City's pass rush, they

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Speaker 1: would be in big trouble. Oh yeah, our one in

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Speaker 1: the books, Nick Wright, Mike Sando, it's the hurt