WEBVTT - When Alaska's Snow Crab Went Missing

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<v Speaker 4>It's February and I'm at a beach on the island

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<v Speaker 4>of Kodiak in the southwestern part of Alaska. The island

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<v Speaker 4>is only accessible by small plane or boats. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>afternoon and thirty degrees fahrenheit Chile, but tolerable because the

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<v Speaker 4>sun is out and I feel the warmth of the

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<v Speaker 4>sunlight on me. The sand is black and behind me

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<v Speaker 4>are dark green spruce trees. There's some light snow sprinkled

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<v Speaker 4>by the shore. Standing next to me is Pedro Gruz.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a fish from El Salvador. Pedro brought me here,

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<v Speaker 4>about an hour away from the city of Kodiak, where

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<v Speaker 4>he lives, because he says this is one of his

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<v Speaker 4>favorite places on the entire.

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<v Speaker 5>Island in who stands but campar.

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<v Speaker 4>He enjoys spending time here with his wife and sons.

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<v Speaker 4>They camp here during the summer when school is out,

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<v Speaker 4>and they fish for salmon at a nearby Riverplente.

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<v Speaker 3>Campo. Yes, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Fedro loves being in nature to feel connected to it.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't grow up in a big city, but he

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<v Speaker 4>and his family might have to leave Kodiak because the

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<v Speaker 4>industry that has long sustained and rooted them here on

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<v Speaker 4>the island is now uncertain. Late last year, the snow

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<v Speaker 4>crab fishing season in the Bearing Sea, which is about

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<v Speaker 4>several hundred miles from here, was canceled, and the snow

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<v Speaker 4>crab cancelation has never happened before. Catching snow crab is

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<v Speaker 4>a main source of income for Pedro and others in

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<v Speaker 4>and outside of Kodiak. It's been reliable for decades, but

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<v Speaker 4>recently snow crab out in the Bearing Sea disappeared due

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<v Speaker 4>to warming waters, scientists say a consequence of climate.

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<v Speaker 5>Changemente Favrero Primo and Baked the baked eca Aki in Casa.

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<v Speaker 4>Federo says it's the first time in more than two

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<v Speaker 4>decades of his fishing career that he's here on land

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<v Speaker 4>in February. It's a weird, bittersweet feeling because he's able

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<v Speaker 4>to spend time with his family, but it makes them uneasy.

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<v Speaker 4>As we stand here, the waves crash onto shore and

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<v Speaker 4>we stare out into the endless blue water. We both

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<v Speaker 4>quietly ask ourselves will the snowcrab come back? And if

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<v Speaker 4>they don't, how will the fishermen and the communities that

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<v Speaker 4>rely on them survive?

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<v Speaker 2>From Futuromedia and PRX, It's Latino USA. I'm Maria in Josa.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we visit Kodiak, Alaska. We see how a fishing

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<v Speaker 2>community is trying to stay afloat as climate change disrupts

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<v Speaker 2>their industry. On this episode, Latino USA producer Renaldo Leanos

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<v Speaker 2>Junior has the story for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Alaska has often been called a ground zero of the

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<v Speaker 4>climate crisis. That's because the people living here are already

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<v Speaker 4>experiencing profound changes in their way of life.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the impact of climate change is already very real

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<v Speaker 6>for villages on an island in northern Alaska. They're being

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<v Speaker 6>forced out of their homes because of rising sea levels.

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<v Speaker 4>Anchorage, Alaska hit a record ninety degrees on the holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>Glaciers in the state melting at record rates, and climate

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<v Speaker 2>scientists say this.

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<v Speaker 7>Is bad news for all of us, not just Alaska.

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<v Speaker 4>Alaska is the biggest seafood producer in the country, and

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<v Speaker 4>fishing is a pillar for communities. In twenty nineteen, more

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<v Speaker 4>than sixty thousand people worked in Alaska's seafood industry, and

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<v Speaker 4>more than thirty one thousand fishermen were employeed through commercial fishing.

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<v Speaker 4>Alaska's main export is seafood. This the state's seafood was

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<v Speaker 4>sold in more than one hundred countries around the world

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty nineteen, and it makes up more than half

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<v Speaker 4>of the state's annual export value, which averages a little

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<v Speaker 4>over three billion dollars annually. The state exports things like cod, salmon, crab, pollock,

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<v Speaker 4>items that you can probably find at your local grocery store.

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<v Speaker 4>And because of this thriving industry, over the years, Alaska

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<v Speaker 4>has drawn in workers from around the world to take

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<v Speaker 4>up fishing or work at fish processing plants also known

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<v Speaker 4>as canneries. Others have lived and worked in Alaska in

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<v Speaker 4>these jobs for generations, but one group that has followed

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<v Speaker 4>the work to the state are Latinos and Latinas. A

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<v Speaker 4>decade ago, about forty thousand Latinos called Alaska home. Today,

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<v Speaker 4>that number is close to fifty six thousand, or about

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<v Speaker 4>eight percent of the state's population, and about a thousand

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<v Speaker 4>of them live in Kodiak. It's a tight knit community

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<v Speaker 4>They and everyone else working in these industries are already

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<v Speaker 4>starting to see disruptions to their livelihoods because of climate change.

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<v Speaker 4>Research shows that Latinos and Latinas, and communities of color

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<v Speaker 4>in general, tend to be disproportionately impacted by climate change.

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<v Speaker 4>Fishermen in Alaska have witnessed the collapse of salmon and

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<v Speaker 4>cod in recent years. Those are slowly recovering, but last year,

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<v Speaker 4>the most recent fishery to crumble was a snow crab,

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<v Speaker 4>in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Major blow to America's seafood industry.

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<v Speaker 8>Alaska's Department of Fish and Game has canceled the winter

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<v Speaker 8>snow crab season and the Bearing Sea due to falling numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>It's estimated that about ten billion snow crab vanished in

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<v Speaker 4>the Bearing Sea, the cause, scientists say warming waters. In

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one, the snow crab from the Bearing Sea

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<v Speaker 4>was an industry with an estimated worth of two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars. Scientists have kept an eye on the snow

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<v Speaker 4>crab for years. In twenty eighteen, they saw many young crab,

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<v Speaker 4>a sign the population was healthy. Then in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one those numbers began to drop. Yet no one imagined

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<v Speaker 4>a complete closure of the season just a year later.

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<v Speaker 4>This has left fishermen like Bethal wondering what might collapse

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<v Speaker 4>next and how will they get by. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 4>I really wanted to know what exactly happened to the

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<v Speaker 4>snow crab near Kodiak, and what the fishermen and the

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<v Speaker 4>communities that depend on the money that this crab brings

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<v Speaker 4>in are doing to adapt. So in February, I traveled

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<v Speaker 4>from New York to Kodiak, Alaska to find out. When

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<v Speaker 4>I first arrived in the city of Kodiak, it's already dark.

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<v Speaker 4>It's eight PM, and I can barely see the outline

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<v Speaker 4>of the mountains and their jagged peaks that's around the city.

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<v Speaker 4>The city has a population of about five thousand people.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the island's main port, with two harbors where hundreds

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<v Speaker 4>of fishing boats tie up, both large and small. The

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<v Speaker 4>temperature is in the low thirties, which is pretty cold

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<v Speaker 4>for me since I'm from South Texas by the US

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<v Speaker 4>Mexico border. The wind is strong. I feel the cold

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<v Speaker 4>chill pulsate through my body and through my three layers

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<v Speaker 4>of clothing. I'm on a wooden dock in front of

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<v Speaker 4>The Arctic Lady, a boat that Federal who we heard

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<v Speaker 4>from earlier, works on. It's about one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 4>feet long and weighs two hundred tons. It's massive. You're

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<v Speaker 4>going down ladder a triple boat the way you're going

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<v Speaker 4>down ladder here, I think, so we'll find out.

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<v Speaker 7>Just take your small tail.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Chad Lowenberg. He's the Arctic Lady's captain. He's Fedro's boss.

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<v Speaker 4>Running the Arctic Lady is a family business. The boat

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<v Speaker 4>has been around for more than forty years. I'm here

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<v Speaker 4>today because Chad wants me to see firsthand how the

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<v Speaker 4>collapse of the snow crab season is directly impacting his

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<v Speaker 4>life and the men he employs. Chad says when he

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<v Speaker 4>first heard the news, it was like someone knocked the

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<v Speaker 4>wind out of him. It was tough to break it

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<v Speaker 4>to his crew, but he promised them that he would

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<v Speaker 4>do his best to keep them busy with work through

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<v Speaker 4>the wind and rain. Illuminated by the boat's strong beams

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<v Speaker 4>of light, I see the ladder that Chad is talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>It's made of steel and it looks a little rusted. Underneath,

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<v Speaker 4>there's nothing but ocean, nothing to catch you if you slip.

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<v Speaker 4>And even more terrifying to me is that I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how to swim. But I just flew thirty five

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<v Speaker 4>hundred miles to get here, so I'm telling myself that

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<v Speaker 4>there's no way I'm not getting on that boat. I

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<v Speaker 4>hold on tight to my backpack, which has all of

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<v Speaker 4>my audio equipment, and get ready to go down.

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<v Speaker 3>Red. Oh, I look it up.

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<v Speaker 4>I slowly start to inch my way down step by step.

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<v Speaker 4>Chad shouts at me from above and says, I'll see

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<v Speaker 4>a rope when I reached the last step. The rope

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<v Speaker 4>will help stabilize me so that I don't fall when

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<v Speaker 4>I move from the ladder to the boat one leg

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<v Speaker 4>at a time, a more step, Chad can see that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm struggling feedro His crewmate steps in to help me

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<v Speaker 4>from the boat. Okay, Feather, who's forty eight, has been

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<v Speaker 4>working on the boat for twenty three years. He tells

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<v Speaker 4>me not to be afraid. He tells me to extend

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<v Speaker 4>my leg towards the boat. But I'm short, my legs

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<v Speaker 4>can't reach, and the gap between the boat and the

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<v Speaker 4>ladder is too wide.

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<v Speaker 7>Bed Ro, do you have a board you can put

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<v Speaker 7>across here a board.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Featheral brings a makeshift plank and I slowly walk

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<v Speaker 4>across it.

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<v Speaker 6>Heads.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, say say I made it on board. And when

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<v Speaker 4>I look around there's so much going on. A few

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<v Speaker 4>men are walking up and down the boat and will

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<v Speaker 4>look like orange rubber wet suits to protect themselves from

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<v Speaker 4>the water. A machine like a crane is moving a

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<v Speaker 4>massive steel bucket from the boat's deck onto the dock.

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<v Speaker 4>Above us, there are hundreds of tanner crab, not snow crab,

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<v Speaker 4>which tend to be a little smaller. Inside of the bucket.

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<v Speaker 4>These tanner crab are each about a foot wide, and

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<v Speaker 4>they have this brown and orange tint to them. I

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<v Speaker 4>can see their legs moving slowly. This is what Chad

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<v Speaker 4>wanted me to see. Bethro explains that they're doing something

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<v Speaker 4>called tenderine.

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<v Speaker 3>Parola Presta.

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<v Speaker 4>Pedro says, tenderine is when a boat transports a smaller

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<v Speaker 4>boat's catch to shore. In this case, because the Arctic

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<v Speaker 4>Lady is so big, it is able to fill up

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<v Speaker 4>with tanner crab and get it to the prossessing plans

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<v Speaker 4>on shore. Tonight, Pedro and the men are transferring two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty thousand pounds of tanner crab from large

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<v Speaker 4>tanks in the boat to a massive steel bucket. Then

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<v Speaker 4>that is moved onto the dock above us. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>side gig for Chad's crew, who is used to being

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<v Speaker 4>out at sea during this time of year, but they

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<v Speaker 4>took on the job for some income to help make

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<v Speaker 4>up for the canceled snow crab season.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay Okaki bucket.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, there's so much tanner crab on the boat that

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<v Speaker 4>it'll take Betherro and the men several day and night

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<v Speaker 4>shifts to finish unloading. Bethro arrived in Kodiak in the

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<v Speaker 4>early nineties, and he wasn't the only one. Two of

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<v Speaker 4>his uncles got here before him. They're the ones who

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<v Speaker 4>told Pedro about work at the local fish processing plant here,

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<v Speaker 4>and that seems to be common. Workers arrived by word

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<v Speaker 4>of mouth, some arriving in the late seventies and early eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>Back then, many of them were Mexican or Filipino. They

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<v Speaker 4>followed the work to the island. I can see now

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<v Speaker 4>how all of that migration transformed Kodiak, Like when Pedro

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<v Speaker 4>takes me to King's Diner right in town with his

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<v Speaker 4>friend jose Aldred Rodriguez, who's also from Esla Valdor, and

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<v Speaker 4>we used to work at a cannery. It's a quick breakfast.

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<v Speaker 4>I get some scrambled egg and black coffee, feather orders

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<v Speaker 4>pancakes and reindeer sausage and eggs. The diner is buzzing.

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<v Speaker 4>Every table was full, and I can pick up some

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<v Speaker 4>Spanish around me. The waitress comes by and she knows Pedro.

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<v Speaker 4>She speaks Spanish with him, olaf y. Just being here

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<v Speaker 4>at the diner for a couple of minutes, I can

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<v Speaker 4>instantly see how Latinos have made Kodiak their home. The

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<v Speaker 4>next day, I stopped by the Arctic Lady again to

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<v Speaker 4>see how the crew is doing. As they continue to

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<v Speaker 4>trans for all the tanner crab to the local cannery.

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<v Speaker 4>I spot feathered on the deck standing by one of

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<v Speaker 4>the four tanks that are holding the crab Feedro is

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<v Speaker 4>wearing a thick blue jacket and he has gloves on.

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<v Speaker 4>In some ways, Bethro reminds me of my dad. They

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<v Speaker 4>had the same shade of brown skin from working outside

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<v Speaker 4>most of their lives. And he's also a little reserved,

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<v Speaker 4>but once you start to get to know him more,

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<v Speaker 4>he opens up Bethro looks down into one of the tanks.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a large ladder jetting out of it. At the

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<v Speaker 4>bottom of the tank, two men quickly fill a bucket

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<v Speaker 4>with crabs. Then the men climb out. I asked Pedro

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<v Speaker 4>if they've finished.

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<v Speaker 3>As breaking.

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<v Speaker 9>Rita.

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<v Speaker 4>Pedro says he and the men are now on break

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<v Speaker 4>because a cannery needs time to finish processing the crab

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<v Speaker 4>that's already there. After that they can start receiving more.

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<v Speaker 4>And as Pedro talks to me, I see a large

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<v Speaker 4>hose next to him spewing a steady stream of water

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<v Speaker 4>down to the crab below in the tanks. During this

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<v Speaker 4>waiting period, they need to keep the crabs hydrated. If not,

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<v Speaker 4>they'll die, and if they die, that would mean less

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<v Speaker 4>money for them. At Pedro says this, I can tell

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<v Speaker 4>he's tired today. I hear it in his voice, and

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<v Speaker 4>I can see dark circles under his eyes. He hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>slept much away, he says, he only got two hours

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<v Speaker 4>of sleep. And even though they're not out catching snow

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<v Speaker 4>crab at sea, this physical work is still tough.

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<v Speaker 9>Baramos as Sonamoss Cocincras this wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Lisa.

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<v Speaker 4>They usually start at around seven a m. And end

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<v Speaker 4>their day at midnight. They have dinner, then they sleep

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<v Speaker 4>five hours and do it all over again today with

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<v Speaker 4>Bethro on the deck. There are just a few men working.

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<v Speaker 4>Two of them are Latino and the other is Filipino.

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<v Speaker 4>The rest of its crew is made up of workers

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<v Speaker 4>from the local fish processing plant. Pedro says he and

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<v Speaker 4>the men expect to work another long night because they

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<v Speaker 4>still have two more.

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<v Speaker 3>Tanks to go, So whya pa la caza.

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<v Speaker 4>He hopes the current shift can finish one of these

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<v Speaker 4>tanks by six p m. So that the night shift

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<v Speaker 4>can get started on the last one.

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<v Speaker 3>Lo lajenda almost single's ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he never imagined he'd have to tender or catch

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<v Speaker 4>any other species of crab or fish during snow crap season.

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<v Speaker 4>That was always a full time, permanent job. It's something

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<v Speaker 4>he thinks about a lot, but he's grateful for the

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<v Speaker 4>work because otherwise he'd be sitting at home. Pedro has

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<v Speaker 4>three kids, the youngest thirteen and the oldest twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>He also has a wife who works part time taking

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<v Speaker 4>care of children, and his mother in law lives with

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<v Speaker 4>them too. They need his income to make ends meet.

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<v Speaker 4>For his family, and on his mind is his family's future.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the work he's doing right now is temporary. Once

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<v Speaker 4>this gig is over, he doesn't know what comes next.

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<v Speaker 4>He's even toying with the idea of finding work outside

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<v Speaker 4>of the industry, outside of Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up on Latino USA, we learn about the science

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<v Speaker 2>of what happened to the snow crab, and hear about

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<v Speaker 2>the lives both Pedro and Chad have created for themselves

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<v Speaker 2>and what it would mean if the snow crab were

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<v Speaker 2>never to return. Stay with uses.

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<v Speaker 4>Ola, I've thought.

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<v Speaker 6>A lifelong educator and the proud recipient of the Presidential

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<v Speaker 6>Medal of Freedom. Today, it's my great honor to wish

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<v Speaker 6>Latino USA a very happy thirtieth anniversary. Wuchisi Matgraskiez for

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<v Speaker 6>thirty years of informing, challenging and inspiring us. That you

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<v Speaker 6>see that is to all at Latino US.

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<v Speaker 2>Say hey, we're back. Before the break, we met Pedro

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<v Speaker 2>Gruz and Chad Loewenberg. They've been looking for side gigs,

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<v Speaker 2>temporary work to help them get by after the cancelation

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<v Speaker 2>of the snow crab season. Pedro and Chad have created

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<v Speaker 2>lives in Kodiak and this cancelation is having a direct

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<v Speaker 2>economic hit on both of them. But before we get

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<v Speaker 2>to that, we're going to learn about what scientists believe

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<v Speaker 2>happened to the snow crab. Right, let's get back to

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<v Speaker 2>the story. Here's Latino USA producer Rinaldo Leanos Junior once again.

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<v Speaker 4>And right now, as I'm walking on the sidewalk, there's,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, reminents of just a little bit of snow here.

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<v Speaker 4>It's early in the morning and I just left my

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<v Speaker 4>hotel room. I'm making my way to a NOAH facility

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<v Speaker 4>on the island. NOAH stands for the National Oceanic and

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<v Speaker 4>Atmospheric Administry. It's a federal agency focused on understanding and

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<v Speaker 4>predicting changes to the Earth's climate, weather, and oceans. It's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty cold out today. I have my thick jacket on,

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<v Speaker 4>a long sleeved shirt, an undershirt and long underwear. I

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<v Speaker 4>can still feel the cold and see my breath. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>heading there because I have the same questions people like Feedo,

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<v Speaker 4>Chad and others in the community have, like when is

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<v Speaker 4>the snow crab season expected to start again? The SNOWAH

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<v Speaker 4>facility is about a twenty minute walk, but I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to see some more of Kodiak. As I'm making my

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<v Speaker 4>way across the bridge, I see about a dozen huge

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<v Speaker 4>bald eagles flying around, and I spot one sitting on

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<v Speaker 4>top of the lamp posts above me. As I walk by,

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<v Speaker 4>the view around me is breath taking. I look over

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<v Speaker 4>to my right and I see wind turned lines, And

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<v Speaker 4>as I look more directly to my left, that's where

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<v Speaker 4>I see this big, be beautiful mountains, you know, with

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<v Speaker 4>so many different peaks there, and those mountains are covered

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<v Speaker 4>with snow, and you know, it just really keeps forth.

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<v Speaker 4>After a couple of minutes of walking, I get to

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<v Speaker 4>the Noah building and meet Mike Litzo.

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<v Speaker 10>My name is Mike Litzo. I'm the lab director for

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<v Speaker 10>the Kodiak Lab for the Alaska Fisheries Science Center.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike is not originally from Alaska. He grew up in

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<v Speaker 4>Ohio and he was born in Australia.

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<v Speaker 10>Classic story where my wife got a job out in

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<v Speaker 10>Kodiak working for Noah Fisheries, and I followed her. So.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike is considered a crab expert. He's been studying snow

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<v Speaker 4>crab for almost twenty years and he's the director of

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<v Speaker 4>the Kodiak laboratory here. Okay, so we're entering another room now.

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<v Speaker 4>He takes me downstairs to a saltwater research lab to

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<v Speaker 4>show me some of the work they're doing. He shows

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<v Speaker 4>me some crabs swimming in large tanks. They're actually snow crab,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's the first time I see one alive while

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<v Speaker 4>here in Kodiak.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the actual wet lab.

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<v Speaker 10>So we're seeing sort of acres of large seawater tanks

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<v Speaker 10>going off into the distance where where we maintain our crab.

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<v Speaker 10>So we're able to experimentally mimic the conditions either that

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<v Speaker 10>exist now or that we expect will exist in the future,

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<v Speaker 10>and then look at the response of these different animals.

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<v Speaker 4>Mix is the reason they're doing this is to see

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<v Speaker 4>if the snow crab have the potential to adapt to

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<v Speaker 4>warmer waters. Carbon dioxide released by burning fossil fuels like

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<v Speaker 4>coal and oil cause seawaters to get warmer. Snow crab

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<v Speaker 4>are not just found in the Bearing Sea, but also

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<v Speaker 4>in waters near Japan and Greenland, and scientists are also

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<v Speaker 4>keeping an eye on those regions. It's estimated that each year,

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<v Speaker 4>thirty seven billion metric tons of carbon dioxide is released

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<v Speaker 4>into the Earth's atmosphere, and the US and China are

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest polluters in the entire world. Global temperatures this

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<v Speaker 4>year hit historic highs, and the temperature of the world's

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<v Speaker 4>oceans also hit record highs. In Florida, for example, waters

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<v Speaker 4>in the Gulf of Mexico got as hot as a

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<v Speaker 4>hot tub.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, we can try there's no sound that comes

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<v Speaker 10>off of a crowd, you know, we can pick one out.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know, what is that worth doing?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, let's do that, and then you can't like splashing

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<v Speaker 7>sounds of them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike says he was part of a team that went

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<v Speaker 4>to Dutch Harbor, also in Alaska, in twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 4>to conduct a survey of the snow crap population that's

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<v Speaker 4>southwest of Kodiak, and the work is a collaboration between

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<v Speaker 4>his office and the State of Alaska. That's when they

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<v Speaker 4>notice a significant drop in the snow crap population.

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<v Speaker 10>What we do is we charted two commercial fishing boats,

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<v Speaker 10>and we put six scientists onto each of those boats

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<v Speaker 10>and go out and do four hundred and fifty odd

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<v Speaker 10>toes all the way across the Eastern Barren Sea on

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<v Speaker 10>a grid patterns.

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<v Speaker 4>A toe is when they cast a net and try

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<v Speaker 4>to see what comes up in that net.

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<v Speaker 10>So we've got these stations that we've been going back

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<v Speaker 10>to you every year since the mid nineteen seventies, and

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<v Speaker 10>we go out, we toe for half an hour, bring

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<v Speaker 10>up the net, and then count and measure every fish,

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<v Speaker 10>every crab that comes up.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike says that back in twenty eighteen, the situation looked promising.

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<v Speaker 4>They were seeing young snow crab that were almost big

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<v Speaker 4>enough to be caught. But then things began to change.

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<v Speaker 4>In twenty nineteen, scientists toed in about half the number

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<v Speaker 4>of crabs, and they didn't do a survey in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty because of COVID. Then in twenty twenty one and

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<v Speaker 4>again in twenty twenty two, their nets picked up very little.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike says, without a doubt, everything points to the effect

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<v Speaker 4>of warming waters caused by climate change.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, snow crab are an Arctic animal. They only

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<v Speaker 10>live in areas that are covered by ice in the winter.

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<v Speaker 10>They only are found in abundance in this very cold

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<v Speaker 10>bottom temperatures, and that ice in those cold bottom temperatures,

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<v Speaker 10>which is absent in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Particular the Arctic region is warming at four times faster

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<v Speaker 4>than the global average. At first, scientists thought one possibility

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<v Speaker 4>was that the snow crab had gone off to colder waters,

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<v Speaker 4>but then they didn't find any of those snow crab

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<v Speaker 4>in those colder regions. Mike says another possibility it may

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<v Speaker 4>have been that these warmer waters brought in predatory fish

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<v Speaker 4>that ate the crab. He also believes it could have

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<v Speaker 4>been that.

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<v Speaker 10>Warm temperatures made diseases more prevalent. It might be that

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<v Speaker 10>warm temperatures raised the metabolic rates to the crab to

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<v Speaker 10>the point where they couldn't feed themselves and starved.

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<v Speaker 4>But whatever the specific reason, scientists now say that they

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<v Speaker 4>believed that there was in fact a mass die off

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<v Speaker 4>of the snow crab in the Bearing Sea, and the

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<v Speaker 4>specificity behind that mass die off is still a little unclear,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's tied to warming waters. Now, scientists estimate that

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<v Speaker 4>the snow crab season won't come back for another three

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<v Speaker 4>to five years, that is, until the young snowcrab mature

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<v Speaker 4>in large amounts and are ready to be caught again.

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<v Speaker 4>The timeline for the snow crab's return has put a

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<v Speaker 4>strain on the lives of people who rely on them,

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<v Speaker 4>people like Betherol. I met up with him at his home. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Betherro's house is not too far from where the Arctic

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<v Speaker 4>Lady is docked. It's a two story aqua colored home

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<v Speaker 4>with a dark brown wooden staircase leading up to the

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<v Speaker 4>front door. The family has lived in this house for

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<v Speaker 4>about sixteen years now. So cute, yes, and ye. Fedro's

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<v Speaker 4>wife is about half a foot shorter than he is

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<v Speaker 4>and such a warm person. Her smile makes me feel

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<v Speaker 4>right at home. And she, like Betherol, is originally from Zlata.

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<v Speaker 8>Yea yea Quia Kodia consa.

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<v Speaker 4>Sen Jesenja also fled during Es sal Valdor's civil war

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<v Speaker 4>in the nineteen eighties. Pedro says he vividly remembers that time.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, yo ya mirado amigostos delo combatis.

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<v Speaker 4>Several of his friends went to fight, and many of

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<v Speaker 4>them did not return.

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<v Speaker 5>Alivedomos ala militarento a rapido those press and mannamento.

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<v Speaker 3>Alaa and says.

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<v Speaker 4>The Pedro's dad said he did not want him to

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<v Speaker 4>serve in the military because men were being sent out

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<v Speaker 4>to fight without proper training. So Pedro decided to leave

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<v Speaker 4>Es Salvador and moved to California to join two of

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<v Speaker 4>his uncles there. Then those uncles moved to Kodiak after

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<v Speaker 4>hearing about work in a fish processing plants. Betro followed

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<v Speaker 4>two when Sena left El Sad. She also spent some

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<v Speaker 4>time in California, and then she heard about work in Kodiak,

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<v Speaker 4>where she got a job at a canary She fled

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<v Speaker 4>fish Yeahara palo verda y. Senja arrived in Kodiak in

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety two, but after a few years of working

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 4>at the Canary, the plant closed down. She said it

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 4>was good money while it lasted.

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<v Speaker 8>Young California Nava elmes Ii Para the sa Mana Grand.

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<v Speaker 3>Chick was me.

0:29:52.560 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 8>Pescalome Gustava Yo and the de la la man A.

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<v Speaker 3>Solo.

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<v Speaker 4>In California she would make about two hundred dollars a month,

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 4>but in Kodiak she would get a paycheck for six

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 4>hundred dollars every two weeks, triple the amount.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Senya says she liked putting in long hours, as many

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 4>as eighteen per day. When Pedro first got to Kodiak,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 4>he also worked at a fish processing plant and as

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 4>they would have it. Pedro Senja eventually crossed paths bv

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Mo and Frentel de p.

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<v Speaker 8>He and Frentia Villa and Parque the Huar football soccer. Yes,

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 8>the yelokoinop was Megul meg Megusta.

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<v Speaker 4>Then, hey, they didn't know they lived across the street

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 4>from each other. Yes, Pedro at a nearby park playing

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 4>soccer one day, She says, she liked what she saw.

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 4>She want him over, she says, and then the rest

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 4>is history. As I'm listening to their story as to

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 4>how they arrived in Kodiak, I can't help but to

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 4>think how Pedro and Yesenya were both essentially displaced by

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 4>the civil war in Salvador, and how now climate change

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 4>might also force them and their sons to leave their

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 4>home in Kodiak too. The family has made a life

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 4>here and created memories. Pedro especially recalls when someone asked

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 4>him if he wanted a job fishing on a boat,

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 4>that boat would be the Arctic Lady, the one Chad

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 4>now owns. He's worked on the Arctic Lady most of

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 4>his life since his early twenties.

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 3>And Albarco g.

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<v Speaker 5>Medic Are you not challenge, Sayhira Scarmegoo sing and glass

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 5>Ellen Glazara and glass Bueno is the Miavente.

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 4>Pedro was nervous about saying yes to the job because

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 4>his English wasn't that good, but he took the risk than.

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 5>Yallos prendido bajo prendido mahing glasante.

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 4>Now he's been fishing on the Arctic Lady for about

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 4>twenty three years. He says he loves it, but being

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 4>out at sea isn't always easy because the weather can

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 4>be unpredictable. The sunsets can be beautiful.

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 5>Though, ideas Togara to telefono its almost photos in not

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 5>start as danger mos okay gundel se wo, Yeah, there's

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 5>a parado.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Rojo.

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 5>I was just la Maresta being Tranquila, being Tranquila motoessa.

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 4>Pedro says there are days when he's on the boat

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 4>hundreds of miles from shore and the sea is unbelievably still,

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 4>and it feels like he's at home on land. But

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 4>that stillness can change in an instant, though, and the

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 4>cold is unlike anything he's ever felt before.

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:45.479
<v Speaker 5>Guando id s k frisa los yellow in pierrel barco

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 5>semi you know, okay jel song.

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 4>When the temperatures drop, ice forms over the entire boat.

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Bether on the crew spend up to three hours breaking

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 4>that I he says, the cold hurts so much he

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 4>feels it in his heart. As we're talking, detro sons

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 4>listen closely. They've probably heard a lot of these stories

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 4>growing up. They know how tough it is out at sea.

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.439
<v Speaker 4>So I was surprised when the middle son, Mois Says,

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 4>who's twenty one, chimes in about wanting to fish too, says,

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 4>actually just came back from a fishing trip on a boat,

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 4>but he and the crew didn't catch much.

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 11>As an upcoming new generation fisherman, it's pretty hard, you know,

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.760
<v Speaker 11>trying to get into this industry. You know, it's pretty

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 11>rough out here, especially when you have no experience.

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean, your dad has sent me like videos before,

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, of him, like being out at sea, and

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 4>I've seen like the huge waves like crashing onto the

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 4>boat and even just spending the last few days with him,

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 4>it looks like long hours, you know. So what made

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 4>you want to go into you know, into fishing. My

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 4>dad's big role model, I mean, the man he is,

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 4>that's how I want to be one.

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 11>I'm his age.

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 4>I asked Pethero what he thinks about what his son

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 4>has just said, you know this, Pedro says he is

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 4>grateful and proud, but he's insistent that he wishes his

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 4>son would not go down the same path. But Moises

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 4>is adamanant.

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 11>My dad has talked to me about, you know, really

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 11>thinking about this, and uh, you know, I simply was

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 11>just like born and raised, you know, being with my

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 11>dad every time my dad was here. You know, I

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 11>always wanted to go with my dad to the boat

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 11>all the time, just him and his boys at the crew.

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 4>I feel like this has been an ongoing contentious issue

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 4>for Bethero and his son. Yet I also get a

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 4>sense that Moises realizes how the industry will probably never

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.959
<v Speaker 4>be the same due to climate change. He even says

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 4>he remembers being a little kid and seeing several feet

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 4>of snow when he opened the door, but now there

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 4>isn't as much. Jobs are also uncertain, and that might

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 4>keep young people like him away from fishing.

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 11>He says, Yeah, I'm pretty worried about it. You know,

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 11>I did read an article a while ago saying, like

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 11>the average fisherman is over fifty years old and at

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 11>disdirection it's going to be harder for younger guys. Gen

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:36.959
<v Speaker 11>z fishermen get in disindustry and then really just see

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 11>a future. And I mean, if it continues like this,

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 11>I highly doubt there's going to be new generation fishermen.

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 4>How does that make you feel you have aspirations to

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 4>want to possibly follow in your dad's footsteps.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean it kind of. Yeah, it does bump

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 11>me out. I mean, man, I do see people my

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 11>age still going out, still going strong. Hopefully this is

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 11>just the down moment. In a year or two, it

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 11>can get back to normal and it's gonna be worth it.

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 4>Moistas's optimism is something I heard from many others in Kodiak.

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 4>It's a hope that things will swing back in their

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 4>direction because being out at sea is in their DNA

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 4>and it often spans generations. But many scientists predict that

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 4>the reality is that climate change is only expected to

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 4>get worse. Still, Chad Lowenberg, Bethro's boss and the Arctic

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Lady's captain, holds onto this optimism. The future of this

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 4>industry is part of his family's legacy.

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 12>So this is our lounge, This is where we hang out,

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 12>We watch TV, relax its kind of like the guys

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 12>hang out.

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 7>They lay down on the couch and whatever watch TV.

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 4>Chad shows me around the Arctic Lady, and I can

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 4>tell the sense of pride that he has for the boat.

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Every inch of it has a story. It's been out

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 4>to sea for forty years, starting with his dad. Being

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 4>on the boat brings up a lot of feelings and

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:16.879
<v Speaker 4>memories for Chad. Catching snow crab on the Arctic Lady.

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 4>It's a family business.

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 7>So when my dad was twenty one in nineteen seventy nine, he.

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 12>Went out on a limb, got alone, and he had

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 12>this boat built at twenty one years old and brought

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 12>it up to Kodiak here to fish crab and that

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 12>was its main purpose.

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:34.879
<v Speaker 7>It was to come up here and be a crab

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 7>fishing boat. He was successful with it. He did a

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 7>great job.

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 4>Chad, who is now forty five, was born in Kodiak. Today,

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 4>Chad is wearing a black baseball cap and a black

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 4>longsleeved shirt. When he talks. I sense the nostalgia that

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 4>he has for his childhood growing up. Most of his

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 4>memories are of his dad and fishing.

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 7>I can remember when I was a young kid five

0:38:58.080 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 7>six seven years old.

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 12>My dad would come in with this boat and delivering kodiak,

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.479
<v Speaker 12>and my mom would bring us down to the boat,

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 12>and my brother and I we would run around the boat,

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 12>raid the candy cupboard and well dad was delivering.

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 4>Even though they were apart a lot. The moments Chat

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 4>and his dad spent together on the boat inspired Chad

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 4>to get into the fishing industry, just as Moissetts wants

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 4>to do because of his dad, Bedrol.

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 12>When I grew up a little bit and I was

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.480
<v Speaker 12>ten eleven twelve, then we were allowed to go out

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 12>and go on the boat, and Dad would pull me

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 12>out of school and we.

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:34.839
<v Speaker 7>Enjoyed being around his crew.

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 12>The guys, you know, they'd play tricks on us and

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.879
<v Speaker 12>now they'd tape us to the rail, or they'd tie

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 12>us to the crane and dip us in the water.

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 4>Chat's father retired from fishing early at thirty four. He

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 4>had other people manage the Arctic Lady until Chad and

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 4>his brother could take over. Chad takes me up two

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 4>flights of stairs on the boat.

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 7>So we're in the wheelhouse. This is where I drive

0:39:58.320 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 7>the boat.

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 4>From the wheelhouse, you can see the deck of the

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 4>ship right below. The crew is hard at work trying

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 4>to finish offloading the tanner crab. It's now day three.

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 4>It's an exhausting job, and Chad can't help but to

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 4>think that it's still a huge pay cut for them

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 4>all from what they're normally used to making. He says

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 4>about half of his annual income comes from catching snow crab.

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 7>It's like making pennies versus making one hundred dollars bill.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 4>Besides this recent temporary tendering gig, Chad and his crew

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 4>also finished another job. They tried fishing for cod, but

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 4>they quickly ran into a problem at sea.

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 12>This cod season was very very short, and the reason

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 12>was is because there's no crab, So what does everybody do.

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 12>Everybody's doing cod now, whereas before not everybody would do

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 12>it because they would concentrate on catching their crab.

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 4>Chad says, even if they had caught some cod, there's

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 4>a huge price difference between that and the snow crab

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 4>they usually fish.

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 7>For cod.

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 12>We get forty six cents a pound is what we

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 12>were paid, so quite a bit less. We're talking three

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.839
<v Speaker 12>fifty pounds for crab, and we're talking forty six cents

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 12>for cod. So if you can put that into perspective.

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Chad also makes it a point to say it's not

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 4>always easy to fish for something different. He was able

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 4>to and it was still quite expensive, but most might

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 4>not have that luxury. If you're used to fishing for

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 4>crab and then try to fish for cod or salmon,

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Chad says it usually requires buying special gear for that

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 4>specific species, things like specialized traps, and it also costs money. Also,

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 4>eats fishery has different regulations and seasons.

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 12>You got to take money out of your pocket and

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 12>try to get your gear ready for another fishery when

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 12>you didn't have the income from the other to do it.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 7>So, if you know what I mean, it's tough.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 4>And he stresses that there are ripple effects, I mean

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 4>it's huge.

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 7>It goes all the way down to Oh, it's just

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 7>like the food chain.

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 12>It's uh, you know, crab boats aren't bringing crab in,

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 12>uh delivering the city's not making the.

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 7>Tax off of them.

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Several small towns in Alaska rely on this extra cash,

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 4>and when that money isn't flowing into the city, budgets

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 4>have to be slashed in order to accommodate the deficit.

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 4>Take for example, the small community of Saint Paul, a

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 4>town with a majority of Indigenous residents. It's west of Kodiak,

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 4>about seven hundred miles away, and it's not the first

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 4>time Saint Paul has experienced loss. In twenty twenty one,

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 4>the red King crab season was canceled. That with the

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 4>most recent snow crab closure resulted in a loss of

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 4>three point twenty five million dollars in tax revenue. But

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 4>Chad says it goes beyond three budgets.

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 12>The crew don't have money in their pockets to go

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 12>to the restaurants there were not spending money on maintenance.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 7>At the hardware store is huge. It takes a dramatic

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 7>toll on the commune unity.

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 12>People aren't, you know, pulling their boats out of the

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 12>water and doing work unless they absolutely have to. So

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 12>the shipyards are feeling it. It's huge. It's all across

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 12>the board, it's everywhere.

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Coming up on Latino USA, we learn about the impact

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<v Speaker 2>climate change is having beyond the snow crab and later

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<v Speaker 2>chat and't bether away in on their futures in Kodiak.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us, not stay by. Yes, hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>When we left off, we learned about the financial struggles

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<v Speaker 2>some fishermen in Kodiak, Alaska are facing. That's due to

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<v Speaker 2>the snow crab season being canceled. Earlier, we also met

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Litso, a scientist looking at how snow crab, the

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<v Speaker 2>fishing industry, and those working in it can survive in

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<v Speaker 2>a warming planet. Right, let's get back to our story.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's producer Renaldo Junior once again with the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the story. So this is where I mean, like

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<v Speaker 4>you said, a lot of the experiments are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be taking place and stuff.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we've got an experiment running back.

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<v Speaker 4>At Mike Litzo's office. He says that the snow crab

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<v Speaker 4>aren't the only species to recently have had their fishing

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<v Speaker 4>seasons canceled. Mike also points out that the number of

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<v Speaker 4>red king crab have declined in recent years, so.

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<v Speaker 10>Snow crab is a sudden collapse. King crab, the population

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<v Speaker 10>has been stable, but the problem there is that they're

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<v Speaker 10>not producing young For some reason. Young crab are not

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<v Speaker 10>appearing in the population to replace older crab. So without

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<v Speaker 10>those young coming in, the population's gradually been declining over

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<v Speaker 10>the last decade or so.

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<v Speaker 4>But what are some of the hypothesis behind that, is

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<v Speaker 4>it related to climate as well or is it more complex.

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<v Speaker 4>So in terms of the causes of.

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<v Speaker 10>The red king crab decline and why they're not producing

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<v Speaker 10>young crab, we have a lot less data, So without data,

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<v Speaker 10>it's hard to make any sort of firm, hard conclusion

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<v Speaker 10>about what's going on. One hypothesis that's definitely on our

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<v Speaker 10>radar is acidification.

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<v Speaker 4>That acidification is primarily coming from the carbon dioxide released

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<v Speaker 4>in the burning of fossil fuels like coal, natural gas,

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<v Speaker 4>and oil. The oceans absorb that carbon dioxide, lowering the

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<v Speaker 4>pH levels of the water, and as a result, it's

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<v Speaker 4>harder for marine animals to adapt. Mike says juvenile red

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<v Speaker 4>king crabs are especially sensitive to acidification. All of these observations,

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<v Speaker 4>when put together, paint a troubling picture.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, we've known that the Barren Sea's going to

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<v Speaker 10>warm for decades, and I've been involved in the Alaska

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<v Speaker 10>marine science community for that time, and we've gotten a

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<v Speaker 10>really clear story from the oceanographers over that time that

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<v Speaker 10>the Northern Barren Sea would always keep its winter sea

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<v Speaker 10>ice cover just because there's no sunlight in the winter

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<v Speaker 10>up there and it gets so cold.

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<v Speaker 4>But things suddenly shifted twenty eighteen, twenty.

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<v Speaker 10>Nineteen, we lost it. You know, we saw the Barren

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<v Speaker 10>Sea largely ice free and mark you know, all the

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<v Speaker 10>way up to Bearing Straight and so that was something

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<v Speaker 10>that not only had we never seen before, but we

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<v Speaker 10>the best science suggested that we would never expect to

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<v Speaker 10>see so soon.

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<v Speaker 4>This really struck a chord with me, and it made

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<v Speaker 4>me wonder and ask, Mike, is what's happening to the

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<v Speaker 4>snow crab and red king crab in the Bearing Sea?

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<v Speaker 4>A sign of what's to come in other regions?

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, we are starting to see a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>volatility in some fisheries in Alaska PACIFICA in the Gulf

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<v Speaker 10>of Alaska collapsed in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, we saw

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<v Speaker 10>a failure in the pink salmon run in the Gulf

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<v Speaker 10>of Alaska in twenty sixteen. Salmon in the Yukon cosca

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<v Speaker 10>Quin rivers that supported a lot of Native communities in

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<v Speaker 10>western Alaska have experienced this persistent failure that's been super,

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<v Speaker 10>super disruptive and produced a lot of hardship for those communities.

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<v Speaker 4>All of this, Mike says, the overall fishery system in

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<v Speaker 4>Alaska remains healthy and robust. That means some of these

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<v Speaker 4>fisheries have started recovering and others remain at normal population numbers,

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<v Speaker 4>but this stability may not be permanent. The alarming trend

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<v Speaker 4>is that these drops in numbers are happening more broadly

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<v Speaker 4>and also more often.

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<v Speaker 10>Looking forward, we know that even if we halted all

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<v Speaker 10>carbon emissions today, we've still got a lot of warming

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<v Speaker 10>baked into the system. Carbon dioxide's a long lived, well

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<v Speaker 10>mixed gas, and we should expect to see the barriancy

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<v Speaker 10>warming up beyond what we've seen so far.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike's as the recent snow crap collapse should make us

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<v Speaker 4>all think about climate change differently.

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<v Speaker 10>These changes are coming in exactly when is impossible to predict.

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<v Speaker 10>They're going to continue to be surprising in a sense,

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<v Speaker 10>and so it's really is time for us to start

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<v Speaker 10>thinking about how communities, communities involved with actual resources in particular,

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<v Speaker 10>are going to adapt to the changes as they come.

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<v Speaker 4>And are you hopeful? How do you feel? You know?

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<v Speaker 10>I think the magnitude of the challenges that we face

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<v Speaker 10>are something we have to really look at clearly, and

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<v Speaker 10>there are some big challenges coming. I like to remain

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<v Speaker 10>optimistic for my kids, you know, And I tell them

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<v Speaker 10>that the world's going to need some solutions and it's

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<v Speaker 10>going to be up to them in their generation, and

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<v Speaker 10>that there will be solutions and so so I guess

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<v Speaker 10>that's how I land on that I like to be

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<v Speaker 10>optimistic on their behalf.

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<v Speaker 4>I walked out of the Noah facility feeling overwhelmed because

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<v Speaker 4>the issue of climate change is so complex. I wanted

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 4>to feel like optimism, but I just couldn't in that moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Chad and many other fishermen in Kodiak get guidance from

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<v Speaker 4>the Alaska Bearing Sea Crabbers, a nonprofit group. They have

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<v Speaker 4>told their members the importance of diversifying their source of income.

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<v Speaker 4>The group acknowledges that the climate crisis is here and

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<v Speaker 4>that things are constantly in flux. Scientists are predicting climate

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<v Speaker 4>change is only going to get worse, so that means

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<v Speaker 4>there will be more disruptions in the near future and

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<v Speaker 4>they need to be ready. In March, the United Nations

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<v Speaker 4>Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, or IPCC, released a report.

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<v Speaker 4>The IPCC is one of the leading scientific authorities on

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<v Speaker 4>all things related to climate change.

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<v Speaker 13>This report tells us that our collective failure to cut

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<v Speaker 13>greenhouse gas emissions leaves us on track to exceed one

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<v Speaker 13>point five degree cells use of global warming, and that

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<v Speaker 13>continuing to march down this track will bring further intensification

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<v Speaker 13>of extreme weather, of ecosystem degradation, and of damage to

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<v Speaker 13>lives and livelihoods, so we must turn down the heat.

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<v Speaker 4>Experts met to discuss these findings. They said that humanity

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<v Speaker 4>is on thin ice. One environmentalist Inger Anderson that she

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<v Speaker 4>believes the world has the technology and then know how

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<v Speaker 4>to get the job done. The key is restoration and sustainability.

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<v Speaker 13>Renewable energy instead of fossil fuels, energy efficiency, green transport,

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<v Speaker 13>green urban infrastructure, halting deforestation, ecosystem restoration, sustainable food systems

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<v Speaker 13>including reduced food loss and waste. Investing in these areas

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<v Speaker 13>and more besides will help to stabilize our climate, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It might not be easy to get governments or industry

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<v Speaker 4>leaders on board to make these chain or to look

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<v Speaker 4>at sustainability right away. The report also says that climate

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<v Speaker 4>change has impacted humans, animals, and all of our environments

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<v Speaker 4>across the world, with those who have generally least contributed

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<v Speaker 4>to climate change being the most vulnerable and disproportionately affected.

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<v Speaker 4>The men on the Arctic Lady are finishing up transferring

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<v Speaker 4>the last of Tanner crab. That means this temporary gig

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<v Speaker 4>for Chad bed and the rest of his crew is

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<v Speaker 4>about to end, and it's time to look for the next.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm going to keep doing everything I can to keep

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<v Speaker 12>the boat busy, the guy's busy, and move forward.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to keep looking for jobs to do, and

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<v Speaker 7>that's all I can do until it rebounds.

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<v Speaker 4>Chad knows that he isn't the only one in this situation,

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<v Speaker 4>and he knows that the snow crab fishing season probably

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<v Speaker 4>won't be back up and running as it used to.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I thank god that I saved for a rainy day, and.

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<v Speaker 12>I was fortunate enough to be taught by my dad to,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, save your money because you never know when

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<v Speaker 12>the rainy day is gonna come. And it's here, and

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<v Speaker 12>we did save and we're fortunate to be one of

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<v Speaker 12>the boats that may be able to weather the storm.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not going to be easy. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 7>be living the high life. Definitely gonna have some cuts

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<v Speaker 7>coming here and a new way of life. But I

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<v Speaker 7>hope in three to five years, we're back at it.

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<v Speaker 4>And the reality though, is right that some boats that

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<v Speaker 4>probably will not make it right through these next couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna say two thirds of the fleet will not

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<v Speaker 7>make it. You just can't do it. You can't have

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<v Speaker 7>an operation like this and not do anything and park

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<v Speaker 7>it at the docks.

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<v Speaker 12>It's not gonna work. So there's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of guys that don't make it. You know, the community

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<v Speaker 12>is going to be hurt. People are going to have

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<v Speaker 12>to find other things to do. I don't know, you

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<v Speaker 12>know what else to say, other than it's going to

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<v Speaker 12>affect it. It's gonna be tough times.

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<v Speaker 4>Fethero's and Chad's lives are at a crossroads as they

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<v Speaker 4>continue to live with the effects of climate change. They

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<v Speaker 4>also each represent two perspectives of this crisis. Chad, as

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<v Speaker 4>captain of the Arctic Lady, has found ways to keep

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<v Speaker 4>his business running, while Fed is someone who works on

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<v Speaker 4>that boat, a fisherman. And it seems like right now

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<v Speaker 4>there are two visible paths. The first, stay in an

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<v Speaker 4>industry that you've been in for generations and remain hopeful,

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<v Speaker 4>or the second make a shift and try to get

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<v Speaker 4>out of the industry before it's too late. Both are

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<v Speaker 4>difficult options.

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<v Speaker 3>This is temp.

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<v Speaker 4>Back on Bethero's favorite beach, an hour away from the city.

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<v Speaker 4>Bethero says he and his family have talked about making

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<v Speaker 4>the move away from Alaska, maybe to California. He's considering

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<v Speaker 4>looking for a job in construction or as a truck driver.

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<v Speaker 4>Six months after my visit to Kodiak, Bethero tells me

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<v Speaker 4>he's still out fishing and doing temporary jobs. It's August

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<v Speaker 4>and it's salmon fishing season, but as expected, he and

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<v Speaker 4>the other fishermen are not making as much money, and

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<v Speaker 4>not many things have changed. He's still worried about his

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<v Speaker 4>family's future. Moving away from Kodiak is still in his plans,

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<v Speaker 4>but for now he's waiting to hear of the snow

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<v Speaker 4>crab season. We'll come back this year. There are inklings

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<v Speaker 4>of hope that it might, but he and so many

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<v Speaker 4>others are on edge. The announcement will come sometime in

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<v Speaker 4>the fall. As for Moisas Betherro's son, he's actually also

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<v Speaker 4>fishing for salmon, right next to his father on the

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 4>same fishing boat.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode was produced by Renaldo Lanos Junior and edited

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<v Speaker 2>by Daisy Gontredras. It was mixed by Julio Caruso and

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<v Speaker 2>jj Carubin.

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<v Speaker 7>Fact checking for.

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