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Speaker 4: It's February and I'm at a beach on the island
Speaker 4: of Kodiak in the southwestern part of Alaska. The island
Speaker 4: is only accessible by small plane or boats. It's the
Speaker 4: afternoon and thirty degrees fahrenheit Chile, but tolerable because the
Speaker 4: sun is out and I feel the warmth of the
Speaker 4: sunlight on me. The sand is black and behind me
Speaker 4: are dark green spruce trees. There's some light snow sprinkled
Speaker 4: by the shore. Standing next to me is Pedro Gruz.
Speaker 4: He's a fish from El Salvador. Pedro brought me here,
Speaker 4: about an hour away from the city of Kodiak, where
Speaker 4: he lives, because he says this is one of his
Speaker 4: favorite places on the entire.
Speaker 5: Island in who stands but campar.
Speaker 4: He enjoys spending time here with his wife and sons.
Speaker 4: They camp here during the summer when school is out,
Speaker 4: and they fish for salmon at a nearby Riverplente.
Speaker 3: Campo. Yes, the.
Speaker 4: Fedro loves being in nature to feel connected to it.
Speaker 4: He didn't grow up in a big city, but he
Speaker 4: and his family might have to leave Kodiak because the
Speaker 4: industry that has long sustained and rooted them here on
Speaker 4: the island is now uncertain. Late last year, the snow
Speaker 4: crab fishing season in the Bearing Sea, which is about
Speaker 4: several hundred miles from here, was canceled, and the snow
Speaker 4: crab cancelation has never happened before. Catching snow crab is
Speaker 4: a main source of income for Pedro and others in
Speaker 4: and outside of Kodiak. It's been reliable for decades, but
Speaker 4: recently snow crab out in the Bearing Sea disappeared due
Speaker 4: to warming waters, scientists say a consequence of climate.
Speaker 5: Changemente Favrero Primo and Baked the baked eca Aki in Casa.
Speaker 4: Federo says it's the first time in more than two
Speaker 4: decades of his fishing career that he's here on land
Speaker 4: in February. It's a weird, bittersweet feeling because he's able
Speaker 4: to spend time with his family, but it makes them uneasy.
Speaker 4: As we stand here, the waves crash onto shore and
Speaker 4: we stare out into the endless blue water. We both
Speaker 4: quietly ask ourselves will the snowcrab come back? And if
Speaker 4: they don't, how will the fishermen and the communities that
Speaker 4: rely on them survive?
Speaker 2: From Futuromedia and PRX, It's Latino USA. I'm Maria in Josa.
Speaker 2: Today we visit Kodiak, Alaska. We see how a fishing
Speaker 2: community is trying to stay afloat as climate change disrupts
Speaker 2: their industry. On this episode, Latino USA producer Renaldo Leanos
Speaker 2: Junior has the story for you.
Speaker 4: Alaska has often been called a ground zero of the
Speaker 4: climate crisis. That's because the people living here are already
Speaker 4: experiencing profound changes in their way of life.
Speaker 6: Well, the impact of climate change is already very real
Speaker 6: for villages on an island in northern Alaska. They're being
Speaker 6: forced out of their homes because of rising sea levels.
Speaker 4: Anchorage, Alaska hit a record ninety degrees on the holiday.
Speaker 2: Glaciers in the state melting at record rates, and climate
Speaker 2: scientists say this.
Speaker 7: Is bad news for all of us, not just Alaska.
Speaker 4: Alaska is the biggest seafood producer in the country, and
Speaker 4: fishing is a pillar for communities. In twenty nineteen, more
Speaker 4: than sixty thousand people worked in Alaska's seafood industry, and
Speaker 4: more than thirty one thousand fishermen were employeed through commercial fishing.
Speaker 4: Alaska's main export is seafood. This the state's seafood was
Speaker 4: sold in more than one hundred countries around the world
Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen, and it makes up more than half
Speaker 4: of the state's annual export value, which averages a little
Speaker 4: over three billion dollars annually. The state exports things like cod, salmon, crab, pollock,
Speaker 4: items that you can probably find at your local grocery store.
Speaker 4: And because of this thriving industry, over the years, Alaska
Speaker 4: has drawn in workers from around the world to take
Speaker 4: up fishing or work at fish processing plants also known
Speaker 4: as canneries. Others have lived and worked in Alaska in
Speaker 4: these jobs for generations, but one group that has followed
Speaker 4: the work to the state are Latinos and Latinas. A
Speaker 4: decade ago, about forty thousand Latinos called Alaska home. Today,
Speaker 4: that number is close to fifty six thousand, or about
Speaker 4: eight percent of the state's population, and about a thousand
Speaker 4: of them live in Kodiak. It's a tight knit community
Speaker 4: They and everyone else working in these industries are already
Speaker 4: starting to see disruptions to their livelihoods because of climate change.
Speaker 4: Research shows that Latinos and Latinas, and communities of color
Speaker 4: in general, tend to be disproportionately impacted by climate change.
Speaker 4: Fishermen in Alaska have witnessed the collapse of salmon and
Speaker 4: cod in recent years. Those are slowly recovering, but last year,
Speaker 4: the most recent fishery to crumble was a snow crab,
Speaker 4: in a.
Speaker 1: Major blow to America's seafood industry.
Speaker 8: Alaska's Department of Fish and Game has canceled the winter
Speaker 8: snow crab season and the Bearing Sea due to falling numbers.
Speaker 4: It's estimated that about ten billion snow crab vanished in
Speaker 4: the Bearing Sea, the cause, scientists say warming waters. In
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, the snow crab from the Bearing Sea
Speaker 4: was an industry with an estimated worth of two hundred
Speaker 4: million dollars. Scientists have kept an eye on the snow
Speaker 4: crab for years. In twenty eighteen, they saw many young crab,
Speaker 4: a sign the population was healthy. Then in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: one those numbers began to drop. Yet no one imagined
Speaker 4: a complete closure of the season just a year later.
Speaker 4: This has left fishermen like Bethal wondering what might collapse
Speaker 4: next and how will they get by. In the meantime,
Speaker 4: I really wanted to know what exactly happened to the
Speaker 4: snow crab near Kodiak, and what the fishermen and the
Speaker 4: communities that depend on the money that this crab brings
Speaker 4: in are doing to adapt. So in February, I traveled
Speaker 4: from New York to Kodiak, Alaska to find out. When
Speaker 4: I first arrived in the city of Kodiak, it's already dark.
Speaker 4: It's eight PM, and I can barely see the outline
Speaker 4: of the mountains and their jagged peaks that's around the city.
Speaker 4: The city has a population of about five thousand people.
Speaker 4: It's the island's main port, with two harbors where hundreds
Speaker 4: of fishing boats tie up, both large and small. The
Speaker 4: temperature is in the low thirties, which is pretty cold
Speaker 4: for me since I'm from South Texas by the US
Speaker 4: Mexico border. The wind is strong. I feel the cold
Speaker 4: chill pulsate through my body and through my three layers
Speaker 4: of clothing. I'm on a wooden dock in front of
Speaker 4: The Arctic Lady, a boat that Federal who we heard
Speaker 4: from earlier, works on. It's about one hundred and forty
Speaker 4: feet long and weighs two hundred tons. It's massive. You're
Speaker 4: going down ladder a triple boat the way you're going
Speaker 4: down ladder here, I think, so we'll find out.
Speaker 7: Just take your small tail.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: That's Chad Lowenberg. He's the Arctic Lady's captain. He's Fedro's boss.
Speaker 4: Running the Arctic Lady is a family business. The boat
Speaker 4: has been around for more than forty years. I'm here
Speaker 4: today because Chad wants me to see firsthand how the
Speaker 4: collapse of the snow crab season is directly impacting his
Speaker 4: life and the men he employs. Chad says when he
Speaker 4: first heard the news, it was like someone knocked the
Speaker 4: wind out of him. It was tough to break it
Speaker 4: to his crew, but he promised them that he would
Speaker 4: do his best to keep them busy with work through
Speaker 4: the wind and rain. Illuminated by the boat's strong beams
Speaker 4: of light, I see the ladder that Chad is talking about.
Speaker 4: It's made of steel and it looks a little rusted. Underneath,
Speaker 4: there's nothing but ocean, nothing to catch you if you slip.
Speaker 4: And even more terrifying to me is that I don't
Speaker 4: know how to swim. But I just flew thirty five
Speaker 4: hundred miles to get here, so I'm telling myself that
Speaker 4: there's no way I'm not getting on that boat. I
Speaker 4: hold on tight to my backpack, which has all of
Speaker 4: my audio equipment, and get ready to go down.
Speaker 3: Red. Oh, I look it up.
Speaker 4: I slowly start to inch my way down step by step.
Speaker 4: Chad shouts at me from above and says, I'll see
Speaker 4: a rope when I reached the last step. The rope
Speaker 4: will help stabilize me so that I don't fall when
Speaker 4: I move from the ladder to the boat one leg
Speaker 4: at a time, a more step, Chad can see that
Speaker 4: I'm struggling feedro His crewmate steps in to help me
Speaker 4: from the boat. Okay, Feather, who's forty eight, has been
Speaker 4: working on the boat for twenty three years. He tells
Speaker 4: me not to be afraid. He tells me to extend
Speaker 4: my leg towards the boat. But I'm short, my legs
Speaker 4: can't reach, and the gap between the boat and the
Speaker 4: ladder is too wide.
Speaker 7: Bed Ro, do you have a board you can put
Speaker 7: across here a board.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Featheral brings a makeshift plank and I slowly walk
Speaker 4: across it.
Speaker 6: Heads.
Speaker 4: Oh, say say I made it on board. And when
Speaker 4: I look around there's so much going on. A few
Speaker 4: men are walking up and down the boat and will
Speaker 4: look like orange rubber wet suits to protect themselves from
Speaker 4: the water. A machine like a crane is moving a
Speaker 4: massive steel bucket from the boat's deck onto the dock.
Speaker 4: Above us, there are hundreds of tanner crab, not snow crab,
Speaker 4: which tend to be a little smaller. Inside of the bucket.
Speaker 4: These tanner crab are each about a foot wide, and
Speaker 4: they have this brown and orange tint to them. I
Speaker 4: can see their legs moving slowly. This is what Chad
Speaker 4: wanted me to see. Bethro explains that they're doing something
Speaker 4: called tenderine.
Speaker 3: Parola Presta.
Speaker 4: Pedro says, tenderine is when a boat transports a smaller
Speaker 4: boat's catch to shore. In this case, because the Arctic
Speaker 4: Lady is so big, it is able to fill up
Speaker 4: with tanner crab and get it to the prossessing plans
Speaker 4: on shore. Tonight, Pedro and the men are transferring two
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand pounds of tanner crab from large
Speaker 4: tanks in the boat to a massive steel bucket. Then
Speaker 4: that is moved onto the dock above us. It's a
Speaker 4: side gig for Chad's crew, who is used to being
Speaker 4: out at sea during this time of year, but they
Speaker 4: took on the job for some income to help make
Speaker 4: up for the canceled snow crab season.
Speaker 3: Okay Okaki bucket.
Speaker 4: Look, there's so much tanner crab on the boat that
Speaker 4: it'll take Betherro and the men several day and night
Speaker 4: shifts to finish unloading. Bethro arrived in Kodiak in the
Speaker 4: early nineties, and he wasn't the only one. Two of
Speaker 4: his uncles got here before him. They're the ones who
Speaker 4: told Pedro about work at the local fish processing plant here,
Speaker 4: and that seems to be common. Workers arrived by word
Speaker 4: of mouth, some arriving in the late seventies and early eighties.
Speaker 4: Back then, many of them were Mexican or Filipino. They
Speaker 4: followed the work to the island. I can see now
Speaker 4: how all of that migration transformed Kodiak, Like when Pedro
Speaker 4: takes me to King's Diner right in town with his
Speaker 4: friend jose Aldred Rodriguez, who's also from Esla Valdor, and
Speaker 4: we used to work at a cannery. It's a quick breakfast.
Speaker 4: I get some scrambled egg and black coffee, feather orders
Speaker 4: pancakes and reindeer sausage and eggs. The diner is buzzing.
Speaker 4: Every table was full, and I can pick up some
Speaker 4: Spanish around me. The waitress comes by and she knows Pedro.
Speaker 4: She speaks Spanish with him, olaf y. Just being here
Speaker 4: at the diner for a couple of minutes, I can
Speaker 4: instantly see how Latinos have made Kodiak their home. The
Speaker 4: next day, I stopped by the Arctic Lady again to
Speaker 4: see how the crew is doing. As they continue to
Speaker 4: trans for all the tanner crab to the local cannery.
Speaker 4: I spot feathered on the deck standing by one of
Speaker 4: the four tanks that are holding the crab Feedro is
Speaker 4: wearing a thick blue jacket and he has gloves on.
Speaker 4: In some ways, Bethro reminds me of my dad. They
Speaker 4: had the same shade of brown skin from working outside
Speaker 4: most of their lives. And he's also a little reserved,
Speaker 4: but once you start to get to know him more,
Speaker 4: he opens up Bethro looks down into one of the tanks.
Speaker 4: There's a large ladder jetting out of it. At the
Speaker 4: bottom of the tank, two men quickly fill a bucket
Speaker 4: with crabs. Then the men climb out. I asked Pedro
Speaker 4: if they've finished.
Speaker 3: As breaking.
Speaker 9: Rita.
Speaker 4: Pedro says he and the men are now on break
Speaker 4: because a cannery needs time to finish processing the crab
Speaker 4: that's already there. After that they can start receiving more.
Speaker 4: And as Pedro talks to me, I see a large
Speaker 4: hose next to him spewing a steady stream of water
Speaker 4: down to the crab below in the tanks. During this
Speaker 4: waiting period, they need to keep the crabs hydrated. If not,
Speaker 4: they'll die, and if they die, that would mean less
Speaker 4: money for them. At Pedro says this, I can tell
Speaker 4: he's tired today. I hear it in his voice, and
Speaker 4: I can see dark circles under his eyes. He hasn't
Speaker 4: slept much away, he says, he only got two hours
Speaker 4: of sleep. And even though they're not out catching snow
Speaker 4: crab at sea, this physical work is still tough.
Speaker 9: Baramos as Sonamoss Cocincras this wife.
Speaker 3: Lisa.
Speaker 4: They usually start at around seven a m. And end
Speaker 4: their day at midnight. They have dinner, then they sleep
Speaker 4: five hours and do it all over again today with
Speaker 4: Bethro on the deck. There are just a few men working.
Speaker 4: Two of them are Latino and the other is Filipino.
Speaker 4: The rest of its crew is made up of workers
Speaker 4: from the local fish processing plant. Pedro says he and
Speaker 4: the men expect to work another long night because they
Speaker 4: still have two more.
Speaker 3: Tanks to go, So whya pa la caza.
Speaker 4: He hopes the current shift can finish one of these
Speaker 4: tanks by six p m. So that the night shift
Speaker 4: can get started on the last one.
Speaker 3: Lo lajenda almost single's ideas.
Speaker 4: No, he never imagined he'd have to tender or catch
Speaker 4: any other species of crab or fish during snow crap season.
Speaker 4: That was always a full time, permanent job. It's something
Speaker 4: he thinks about a lot, but he's grateful for the
Speaker 4: work because otherwise he'd be sitting at home. Pedro has
Speaker 4: three kids, the youngest thirteen and the oldest twenty six.
Speaker 4: He also has a wife who works part time taking
Speaker 4: care of children, and his mother in law lives with
Speaker 4: them too. They need his income to make ends meet.
Speaker 4: For his family, and on his mind is his family's future.
Speaker 4: Because the work he's doing right now is temporary. Once
Speaker 4: this gig is over, he doesn't know what comes next.
Speaker 4: He's even toying with the idea of finding work outside
Speaker 4: of the industry, outside of Alaska.
Speaker 2: Coming up on Latino USA, we learn about the science
Speaker 2: of what happened to the snow crab, and hear about
Speaker 2: the lives both Pedro and Chad have created for themselves
Speaker 2: and what it would mean if the snow crab were
Speaker 2: never to return. Stay with uses.
Speaker 4: Ola, I've thought.
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Speaker 2: Say hey, we're back. Before the break, we met Pedro
Speaker 2: Gruz and Chad Loewenberg. They've been looking for side gigs,
Speaker 2: temporary work to help them get by after the cancelation
Speaker 2: of the snow crab season. Pedro and Chad have created
Speaker 2: lives in Kodiak and this cancelation is having a direct
Speaker 2: economic hit on both of them. But before we get
Speaker 2: to that, we're going to learn about what scientists believe
Speaker 2: happened to the snow crab. Right, let's get back to
Speaker 2: the story. Here's Latino USA producer Rinaldo Leanos Junior once again.
Speaker 4: And right now, as I'm walking on the sidewalk, there's,
Speaker 4: you know, reminents of just a little bit of snow here.
Speaker 4: It's early in the morning and I just left my
Speaker 4: hotel room. I'm making my way to a NOAH facility
Speaker 4: on the island. NOAH stands for the National Oceanic and
Speaker 4: Atmospheric Administry. It's a federal agency focused on understanding and
Speaker 4: predicting changes to the Earth's climate, weather, and oceans. It's
Speaker 4: pretty cold out today. I have my thick jacket on,
Speaker 4: a long sleeved shirt, an undershirt and long underwear. I
Speaker 4: can still feel the cold and see my breath. I'm
Speaker 4: heading there because I have the same questions people like Feedo,
Speaker 4: Chad and others in the community have, like when is
Speaker 4: the snow crab season expected to start again? The SNOWAH
Speaker 4: facility is about a twenty minute walk, but I wanted
Speaker 4: to see some more of Kodiak. As I'm making my
Speaker 4: way across the bridge, I see about a dozen huge
Speaker 4: bald eagles flying around, and I spot one sitting on
Speaker 4: top of the lamp posts above me. As I walk by,
Speaker 4: the view around me is breath taking. I look over
Speaker 4: to my right and I see wind turned lines, And
Speaker 4: as I look more directly to my left, that's where
Speaker 4: I see this big, be beautiful mountains, you know, with
Speaker 4: so many different peaks there, and those mountains are covered
Speaker 4: with snow, and you know, it just really keeps forth.
Speaker 4: After a couple of minutes of walking, I get to
Speaker 4: the Noah building and meet Mike Litzo.
Speaker 10: My name is Mike Litzo. I'm the lab director for
Speaker 10: the Kodiak Lab for the Alaska Fisheries Science Center.
Speaker 4: Mike is not originally from Alaska. He grew up in
Speaker 4: Ohio and he was born in Australia.
Speaker 10: Classic story where my wife got a job out in
Speaker 10: Kodiak working for Noah Fisheries, and I followed her. So.
Speaker 4: Mike is considered a crab expert. He's been studying snow
Speaker 4: crab for almost twenty years and he's the director of
Speaker 4: the Kodiak laboratory here. Okay, so we're entering another room now.
Speaker 4: He takes me downstairs to a saltwater research lab to
Speaker 4: show me some of the work they're doing. He shows
Speaker 4: me some crabs swimming in large tanks. They're actually snow crab,
Speaker 4: and it's the first time I see one alive while
Speaker 4: here in Kodiak.
Speaker 3: So this is the actual wet lab.
Speaker 10: So we're seeing sort of acres of large seawater tanks
Speaker 10: going off into the distance where where we maintain our crab.
Speaker 10: So we're able to experimentally mimic the conditions either that
Speaker 10: exist now or that we expect will exist in the future,
Speaker 10: and then look at the response of these different animals.
Speaker 4: Mix is the reason they're doing this is to see
Speaker 4: if the snow crab have the potential to adapt to
Speaker 4: warmer waters. Carbon dioxide released by burning fossil fuels like
Speaker 4: coal and oil cause seawaters to get warmer. Snow crab
Speaker 4: are not just found in the Bearing Sea, but also
Speaker 4: in waters near Japan and Greenland, and scientists are also
Speaker 4: keeping an eye on those regions. It's estimated that each year,
Speaker 4: thirty seven billion metric tons of carbon dioxide is released
Speaker 4: into the Earth's atmosphere, and the US and China are
Speaker 4: the biggest polluters in the entire world. Global temperatures this
Speaker 4: year hit historic highs, and the temperature of the world's
Speaker 4: oceans also hit record highs. In Florida, for example, waters
Speaker 4: in the Gulf of Mexico got as hot as a
Speaker 4: hot tub.
Speaker 10: I mean, we can try there's no sound that comes
Speaker 10: off of a crowd, you know, we can pick one out.
Speaker 10: I don't know, what is that worth doing?
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's do that, and then you can't like splashing
Speaker 7: sounds of them. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Mike says he was part of a team that went
Speaker 4: to Dutch Harbor, also in Alaska, in twenty twenty two
Speaker 4: to conduct a survey of the snow crap population that's
Speaker 4: southwest of Kodiak, and the work is a collaboration between
Speaker 4: his office and the State of Alaska. That's when they
Speaker 4: notice a significant drop in the snow crap population.
Speaker 10: What we do is we charted two commercial fishing boats,
Speaker 10: and we put six scientists onto each of those boats
Speaker 10: and go out and do four hundred and fifty odd
Speaker 10: toes all the way across the Eastern Barren Sea on
Speaker 10: a grid patterns.
Speaker 4: A toe is when they cast a net and try
Speaker 4: to see what comes up in that net.
Speaker 10: So we've got these stations that we've been going back
Speaker 10: to you every year since the mid nineteen seventies, and
Speaker 10: we go out, we toe for half an hour, bring
Speaker 10: up the net, and then count and measure every fish,
Speaker 10: every crab that comes up.
Speaker 4: Mike says that back in twenty eighteen, the situation looked promising.
Speaker 4: They were seeing young snow crab that were almost big
Speaker 4: enough to be caught. But then things began to change.
Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen, scientists toed in about half the number
Speaker 4: of crabs, and they didn't do a survey in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty because of COVID. Then in twenty twenty one and
Speaker 4: again in twenty twenty two, their nets picked up very little.
Speaker 4: Mike says, without a doubt, everything points to the effect
Speaker 4: of warming waters caused by climate change.
Speaker 10: You know, snow crab are an Arctic animal. They only
Speaker 10: live in areas that are covered by ice in the winter.
Speaker 10: They only are found in abundance in this very cold
Speaker 10: bottom temperatures, and that ice in those cold bottom temperatures,
Speaker 10: which is absent in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: Particular the Arctic region is warming at four times faster
Speaker 4: than the global average. At first, scientists thought one possibility
Speaker 4: was that the snow crab had gone off to colder waters,
Speaker 4: but then they didn't find any of those snow crab
Speaker 4: in those colder regions. Mike says another possibility it may
Speaker 4: have been that these warmer waters brought in predatory fish
Speaker 4: that ate the crab. He also believes it could have
Speaker 4: been that.
Speaker 10: Warm temperatures made diseases more prevalent. It might be that
Speaker 10: warm temperatures raised the metabolic rates to the crab to
Speaker 10: the point where they couldn't feed themselves and starved.
Speaker 4: But whatever the specific reason, scientists now say that they
Speaker 4: believed that there was in fact a mass die off
Speaker 4: of the snow crab in the Bearing Sea, and the
Speaker 4: specificity behind that mass die off is still a little unclear,
Speaker 4: but it's tied to warming waters. Now, scientists estimate that
Speaker 4: the snow crab season won't come back for another three
Speaker 4: to five years, that is, until the young snowcrab mature
Speaker 4: in large amounts and are ready to be caught again.
Speaker 4: The timeline for the snow crab's return has put a
Speaker 4: strain on the lives of people who rely on them,
Speaker 4: people like Betherol. I met up with him at his home. Okay.
Speaker 4: Betherro's house is not too far from where the Arctic
Speaker 4: Lady is docked. It's a two story aqua colored home
Speaker 4: with a dark brown wooden staircase leading up to the
Speaker 4: front door. The family has lived in this house for
Speaker 4: about sixteen years now. So cute, yes, and ye. Fedro's
Speaker 4: wife is about half a foot shorter than he is
Speaker 4: and such a warm person. Her smile makes me feel
Speaker 4: right at home. And she, like Betherol, is originally from Zlata.
Speaker 8: Yea yea Quia Kodia consa.
Speaker 4: Sen Jesenja also fled during Es sal Valdor's civil war
Speaker 4: in the nineteen eighties. Pedro says he vividly remembers that time.
Speaker 5: I said, yo ya mirado amigostos delo combatis.
Speaker 4: Several of his friends went to fight, and many of
Speaker 4: them did not return.
Speaker 5: Alivedomos ala militarento a rapido those press and mannamento.
Speaker 3: Alaa and says.
Speaker 4: The Pedro's dad said he did not want him to
Speaker 4: serve in the military because men were being sent out
Speaker 4: to fight without proper training. So Pedro decided to leave
Speaker 4: Es Salvador and moved to California to join two of
Speaker 4: his uncles there. Then those uncles moved to Kodiak after
Speaker 4: hearing about work in a fish processing plants. Betro followed
Speaker 4: two when Sena left El Sad. She also spent some
Speaker 4: time in California, and then she heard about work in Kodiak,
Speaker 4: where she got a job at a canary She fled
Speaker 4: fish Yeahara palo verda y. Senja arrived in Kodiak in
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two, but after a few years of working
Speaker 4: at the Canary, the plant closed down. She said it
Speaker 4: was good money while it lasted.
Speaker 8: Young California Nava elmes Ii Para the sa Mana Grand.
Speaker 3: Chick was me.
Speaker 8: Pescalome Gustava Yo and the de la la man A.
Speaker 3: Solo.
Speaker 4: In California she would make about two hundred dollars a month,
Speaker 4: but in Kodiak she would get a paycheck for six
Speaker 4: hundred dollars every two weeks, triple the amount.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: Senya says she liked putting in long hours, as many
Speaker 4: as eighteen per day. When Pedro first got to Kodiak,
Speaker 4: he also worked at a fish processing plant and as
Speaker 4: they would have it. Pedro Senja eventually crossed paths bv
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Speaker 4: Then, hey, they didn't know they lived across the street
Speaker 4: from each other. Yes, Pedro at a nearby park playing
Speaker 4: soccer one day, She says, she liked what she saw.
Speaker 4: She want him over, she says, and then the rest
Speaker 4: is history. As I'm listening to their story as to
Speaker 4: how they arrived in Kodiak, I can't help but to
Speaker 4: think how Pedro and Yesenya were both essentially displaced by
Speaker 4: the civil war in Salvador, and how now climate change
Speaker 4: might also force them and their sons to leave their
Speaker 4: home in Kodiak too. The family has made a life
Speaker 4: here and created memories. Pedro especially recalls when someone asked
Speaker 4: him if he wanted a job fishing on a boat,
Speaker 4: that boat would be the Arctic Lady, the one Chad
Speaker 4: now owns. He's worked on the Arctic Lady most of
Speaker 4: his life since his early twenties.
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Speaker 4: Pedro was nervous about saying yes to the job because
Speaker 4: his English wasn't that good, but he took the risk than.
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Speaker 4: Now he's been fishing on the Arctic Lady for about
Speaker 4: twenty three years. He says he loves it, but being
Speaker 4: out at sea isn't always easy because the weather can
Speaker 4: be unpredictable. The sunsets can be beautiful.
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Speaker 4: Pedro says there are days when he's on the boat
Speaker 4: hundreds of miles from shore and the sea is unbelievably still,
Speaker 4: and it feels like he's at home on land. But
Speaker 4: that stillness can change in an instant, though, and the
Speaker 4: cold is unlike anything he's ever felt before.
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Speaker 4: When the temperatures drop, ice forms over the entire boat.
Speaker 4: Bether on the crew spend up to three hours breaking
Speaker 4: that I he says, the cold hurts so much he
Speaker 4: feels it in his heart. As we're talking, detro sons
Speaker 4: listen closely. They've probably heard a lot of these stories
Speaker 4: growing up. They know how tough it is out at sea.
Speaker 4: So I was surprised when the middle son, Mois Says,
Speaker 4: who's twenty one, chimes in about wanting to fish too, says,
Speaker 4: actually just came back from a fishing trip on a boat,
Speaker 4: but he and the crew didn't catch much.
Speaker 11: As an upcoming new generation fisherman, it's pretty hard, you know,
Speaker 11: trying to get into this industry. You know, it's pretty
Speaker 11: rough out here, especially when you have no experience.
Speaker 4: I mean, your dad has sent me like videos before,
Speaker 4: you know, of him, like being out at sea, and
Speaker 4: I've seen like the huge waves like crashing onto the
Speaker 4: boat and even just spending the last few days with him,
Speaker 4: it looks like long hours, you know. So what made
Speaker 4: you want to go into you know, into fishing. My
Speaker 4: dad's big role model, I mean, the man he is,
Speaker 4: that's how I want to be one.
Speaker 11: I'm his age.
Speaker 4: I asked Pethero what he thinks about what his son
Speaker 4: has just said, you know this, Pedro says he is
Speaker 4: grateful and proud, but he's insistent that he wishes his
Speaker 4: son would not go down the same path. But Moises
Speaker 4: is adamanant.
Speaker 11: My dad has talked to me about, you know, really
Speaker 11: thinking about this, and uh, you know, I simply was
Speaker 11: just like born and raised, you know, being with my
Speaker 11: dad every time my dad was here. You know, I
Speaker 11: always wanted to go with my dad to the boat
Speaker 11: all the time, just him and his boys at the crew.
Speaker 4: I feel like this has been an ongoing contentious issue
Speaker 4: for Bethero and his son. Yet I also get a
Speaker 4: sense that Moises realizes how the industry will probably never
Speaker 4: be the same due to climate change. He even says
Speaker 4: he remembers being a little kid and seeing several feet
Speaker 4: of snow when he opened the door, but now there
Speaker 4: isn't as much. Jobs are also uncertain, and that might
Speaker 4: keep young people like him away from fishing.
Speaker 11: He says, Yeah, I'm pretty worried about it. You know,
Speaker 11: I did read an article a while ago saying, like
Speaker 11: the average fisherman is over fifty years old and at
Speaker 11: disdirection it's going to be harder for younger guys. Gen
Speaker 11: z fishermen get in disindustry and then really just see
Speaker 11: a future. And I mean, if it continues like this,
Speaker 11: I highly doubt there's going to be new generation fishermen.
Speaker 4: How does that make you feel you have aspirations to
Speaker 4: want to possibly follow in your dad's footsteps.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it kind of. Yeah, it does bump
Speaker 11: me out. I mean, man, I do see people my
Speaker 11: age still going out, still going strong. Hopefully this is
Speaker 11: just the down moment. In a year or two, it
Speaker 11: can get back to normal and it's gonna be worth it.
Speaker 4: Moistas's optimism is something I heard from many others in Kodiak.
Speaker 4: It's a hope that things will swing back in their
Speaker 4: direction because being out at sea is in their DNA
Speaker 4: and it often spans generations. But many scientists predict that
Speaker 4: the reality is that climate change is only expected to
Speaker 4: get worse. Still, Chad Lowenberg, Bethro's boss and the Arctic
Speaker 4: Lady's captain, holds onto this optimism. The future of this
Speaker 4: industry is part of his family's legacy.
Speaker 12: So this is our lounge, This is where we hang out,
Speaker 12: We watch TV, relax its kind of like the guys
Speaker 12: hang out.
Speaker 7: They lay down on the couch and whatever watch TV.
Speaker 4: Chad shows me around the Arctic Lady, and I can
Speaker 4: tell the sense of pride that he has for the boat.
Speaker 4: Every inch of it has a story. It's been out
Speaker 4: to sea for forty years, starting with his dad. Being
Speaker 4: on the boat brings up a lot of feelings and
Speaker 4: memories for Chad. Catching snow crab on the Arctic Lady.
Speaker 4: It's a family business.
Speaker 7: So when my dad was twenty one in nineteen seventy nine, he.
Speaker 12: Went out on a limb, got alone, and he had
Speaker 12: this boat built at twenty one years old and brought
Speaker 12: it up to Kodiak here to fish crab and that
Speaker 12: was its main purpose.
Speaker 7: It was to come up here and be a crab
Speaker 7: fishing boat. He was successful with it. He did a
Speaker 7: great job.
Speaker 4: Chad, who is now forty five, was born in Kodiak. Today,
Speaker 4: Chad is wearing a black baseball cap and a black
Speaker 4: longsleeved shirt. When he talks. I sense the nostalgia that
Speaker 4: he has for his childhood growing up. Most of his
Speaker 4: memories are of his dad and fishing.
Speaker 7: I can remember when I was a young kid five
Speaker 7: six seven years old.
Speaker 12: My dad would come in with this boat and delivering kodiak,
Speaker 12: and my mom would bring us down to the boat,
Speaker 12: and my brother and I we would run around the boat,
Speaker 12: raid the candy cupboard and well dad was delivering.
Speaker 4: Even though they were apart a lot. The moments Chat
Speaker 4: and his dad spent together on the boat inspired Chad
Speaker 4: to get into the fishing industry, just as Moissetts wants
Speaker 4: to do because of his dad, Bedrol.
Speaker 12: When I grew up a little bit and I was
Speaker 12: ten eleven twelve, then we were allowed to go out
Speaker 12: and go on the boat, and Dad would pull me
Speaker 12: out of school and we.
Speaker 7: Enjoyed being around his crew.
Speaker 12: The guys, you know, they'd play tricks on us and
Speaker 12: now they'd tape us to the rail, or they'd tie
Speaker 12: us to the crane and dip us in the water.
Speaker 4: Chat's father retired from fishing early at thirty four. He
Speaker 4: had other people manage the Arctic Lady until Chad and
Speaker 4: his brother could take over. Chad takes me up two
Speaker 4: flights of stairs on the boat.
Speaker 7: So we're in the wheelhouse. This is where I drive
Speaker 7: the boat.
Speaker 4: From the wheelhouse, you can see the deck of the
Speaker 4: ship right below. The crew is hard at work trying
Speaker 4: to finish offloading the tanner crab. It's now day three.
Speaker 4: It's an exhausting job, and Chad can't help but to
Speaker 4: think that it's still a huge pay cut for them
Speaker 4: all from what they're normally used to making. He says
Speaker 4: about half of his annual income comes from catching snow crab.
Speaker 7: It's like making pennies versus making one hundred dollars bill.
Speaker 4: Besides this recent temporary tendering gig, Chad and his crew
Speaker 4: also finished another job. They tried fishing for cod, but
Speaker 4: they quickly ran into a problem at sea.
Speaker 12: This cod season was very very short, and the reason
Speaker 12: was is because there's no crab, So what does everybody do.
Speaker 12: Everybody's doing cod now, whereas before not everybody would do
Speaker 12: it because they would concentrate on catching their crab.
Speaker 4: Chad says, even if they had caught some cod, there's
Speaker 4: a huge price difference between that and the snow crab
Speaker 4: they usually fish.
Speaker 7: For cod.
Speaker 12: We get forty six cents a pound is what we
Speaker 12: were paid, so quite a bit less. We're talking three
Speaker 12: fifty pounds for crab, and we're talking forty six cents
Speaker 12: for cod. So if you can put that into perspective.
Speaker 4: Chad also makes it a point to say it's not
Speaker 4: always easy to fish for something different. He was able
Speaker 4: to and it was still quite expensive, but most might
Speaker 4: not have that luxury. If you're used to fishing for
Speaker 4: crab and then try to fish for cod or salmon,
Speaker 4: Chad says it usually requires buying special gear for that
Speaker 4: specific species, things like specialized traps, and it also costs money. Also,
Speaker 4: eats fishery has different regulations and seasons.
Speaker 12: You got to take money out of your pocket and
Speaker 12: try to get your gear ready for another fishery when
Speaker 12: you didn't have the income from the other to do it.
Speaker 7: So, if you know what I mean, it's tough.
Speaker 4: And he stresses that there are ripple effects, I mean
Speaker 4: it's huge.
Speaker 7: It goes all the way down to Oh, it's just
Speaker 7: like the food chain.
Speaker 12: It's uh, you know, crab boats aren't bringing crab in,
Speaker 12: uh delivering the city's not making the.
Speaker 7: Tax off of them.
Speaker 4: Several small towns in Alaska rely on this extra cash,
Speaker 4: and when that money isn't flowing into the city, budgets
Speaker 4: have to be slashed in order to accommodate the deficit.
Speaker 4: Take for example, the small community of Saint Paul, a
Speaker 4: town with a majority of Indigenous residents. It's west of Kodiak,
Speaker 4: about seven hundred miles away, and it's not the first
Speaker 4: time Saint Paul has experienced loss. In twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: the red King crab season was canceled. That with the
Speaker 4: most recent snow crab closure resulted in a loss of
Speaker 4: three point twenty five million dollars in tax revenue. But
Speaker 4: Chad says it goes beyond three budgets.
Speaker 12: The crew don't have money in their pockets to go
Speaker 12: to the restaurants there were not spending money on maintenance.
Speaker 7: At the hardware store is huge. It takes a dramatic
Speaker 7: toll on the commune unity.
Speaker 12: People aren't, you know, pulling their boats out of the
Speaker 12: water and doing work unless they absolutely have to. So
Speaker 12: the shipyards are feeling it. It's huge. It's all across
Speaker 12: the board, it's everywhere.
Speaker 2: Coming up on Latino USA, we learn about the impact
Speaker 2: climate change is having beyond the snow crab and later
Speaker 2: chat and't bether away in on their futures in Kodiak.
Speaker 2: Stay with us, not stay by. Yes, hey, we're back.
Speaker 2: When we left off, we learned about the financial struggles
Speaker 2: some fishermen in Kodiak, Alaska are facing. That's due to
Speaker 2: the snow crab season being canceled. Earlier, we also met
Speaker 2: Mike Litso, a scientist looking at how snow crab, the
Speaker 2: fishing industry, and those working in it can survive in
Speaker 2: a warming planet. Right, let's get back to our story.
Speaker 2: Here's producer Renaldo Junior once again with the rest.
Speaker 4: Of the story. So this is where I mean, like
Speaker 4: you said, a lot of the experiments are going to
Speaker 4: be taking place and stuff.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we've got an experiment running back.
Speaker 4: At Mike Litzo's office. He says that the snow crab
Speaker 4: aren't the only species to recently have had their fishing
Speaker 4: seasons canceled. Mike also points out that the number of
Speaker 4: red king crab have declined in recent years, so.
Speaker 10: Snow crab is a sudden collapse. King crab, the population
Speaker 10: has been stable, but the problem there is that they're
Speaker 10: not producing young For some reason. Young crab are not
Speaker 10: appearing in the population to replace older crab. So without
Speaker 10: those young coming in, the population's gradually been declining over
Speaker 10: the last decade or so.
Speaker 4: But what are some of the hypothesis behind that, is
Speaker 4: it related to climate as well or is it more complex.
Speaker 4: So in terms of the causes of.
Speaker 10: The red king crab decline and why they're not producing
Speaker 10: young crab, we have a lot less data, So without data,
Speaker 10: it's hard to make any sort of firm, hard conclusion
Speaker 10: about what's going on. One hypothesis that's definitely on our
Speaker 10: radar is acidification.
Speaker 4: That acidification is primarily coming from the carbon dioxide released
Speaker 4: in the burning of fossil fuels like coal, natural gas,
Speaker 4: and oil. The oceans absorb that carbon dioxide, lowering the
Speaker 4: pH levels of the water, and as a result, it's
Speaker 4: harder for marine animals to adapt. Mike says juvenile red
Speaker 4: king crabs are especially sensitive to acidification. All of these observations,
Speaker 4: when put together, paint a troubling picture.
Speaker 10: You know, we've known that the Barren Sea's going to
Speaker 10: warm for decades, and I've been involved in the Alaska
Speaker 10: marine science community for that time, and we've gotten a
Speaker 10: really clear story from the oceanographers over that time that
Speaker 10: the Northern Barren Sea would always keep its winter sea
Speaker 10: ice cover just because there's no sunlight in the winter
Speaker 10: up there and it gets so cold.
Speaker 4: But things suddenly shifted twenty eighteen, twenty.
Speaker 10: Nineteen, we lost it. You know, we saw the Barren
Speaker 10: Sea largely ice free and mark you know, all the
Speaker 10: way up to Bearing Straight and so that was something
Speaker 10: that not only had we never seen before, but we
Speaker 10: the best science suggested that we would never expect to
Speaker 10: see so soon.
Speaker 4: This really struck a chord with me, and it made
Speaker 4: me wonder and ask, Mike, is what's happening to the
Speaker 4: snow crab and red king crab in the Bearing Sea?
Speaker 4: A sign of what's to come in other regions?
Speaker 10: I mean, we are starting to see a lot of
Speaker 10: volatility in some fisheries in Alaska PACIFICA in the Gulf
Speaker 10: of Alaska collapsed in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, we saw
Speaker 10: a failure in the pink salmon run in the Gulf
Speaker 10: of Alaska in twenty sixteen. Salmon in the Yukon cosca
Speaker 10: Quin rivers that supported a lot of Native communities in
Speaker 10: western Alaska have experienced this persistent failure that's been super,
Speaker 10: super disruptive and produced a lot of hardship for those communities.
Speaker 4: All of this, Mike says, the overall fishery system in
Speaker 4: Alaska remains healthy and robust. That means some of these
Speaker 4: fisheries have started recovering and others remain at normal population numbers,
Speaker 4: but this stability may not be permanent. The alarming trend
Speaker 4: is that these drops in numbers are happening more broadly
Speaker 4: and also more often.
Speaker 10: Looking forward, we know that even if we halted all
Speaker 10: carbon emissions today, we've still got a lot of warming
Speaker 10: baked into the system. Carbon dioxide's a long lived, well
Speaker 10: mixed gas, and we should expect to see the barriancy
Speaker 10: warming up beyond what we've seen so far.
Speaker 4: Mike's as the recent snow crap collapse should make us
Speaker 4: all think about climate change differently.
Speaker 10: These changes are coming in exactly when is impossible to predict.
Speaker 10: They're going to continue to be surprising in a sense,
Speaker 10: and so it's really is time for us to start
Speaker 10: thinking about how communities, communities involved with actual resources in particular,
Speaker 10: are going to adapt to the changes as they come.
Speaker 4: And are you hopeful? How do you feel? You know?
Speaker 10: I think the magnitude of the challenges that we face
Speaker 10: are something we have to really look at clearly, and
Speaker 10: there are some big challenges coming. I like to remain
Speaker 10: optimistic for my kids, you know, And I tell them
Speaker 10: that the world's going to need some solutions and it's
Speaker 10: going to be up to them in their generation, and
Speaker 10: that there will be solutions and so so I guess
Speaker 10: that's how I land on that I like to be
Speaker 10: optimistic on their behalf.
Speaker 4: I walked out of the Noah facility feeling overwhelmed because
Speaker 4: the issue of climate change is so complex. I wanted
Speaker 4: to feel like optimism, but I just couldn't in that moment.
Speaker 4: Chad and many other fishermen in Kodiak get guidance from
Speaker 4: the Alaska Bearing Sea Crabbers, a nonprofit group. They have
Speaker 4: told their members the importance of diversifying their source of income.
Speaker 4: The group acknowledges that the climate crisis is here and
Speaker 4: that things are constantly in flux. Scientists are predicting climate
Speaker 4: change is only going to get worse, so that means
Speaker 4: there will be more disruptions in the near future and
Speaker 4: they need to be ready. In March, the United Nations
Speaker 4: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, or IPCC, released a report.
Speaker 4: The IPCC is one of the leading scientific authorities on
Speaker 4: all things related to climate change.
Speaker 13: This report tells us that our collective failure to cut
Speaker 13: greenhouse gas emissions leaves us on track to exceed one
Speaker 13: point five degree cells use of global warming, and that
Speaker 13: continuing to march down this track will bring further intensification
Speaker 13: of extreme weather, of ecosystem degradation, and of damage to
Speaker 13: lives and livelihoods, so we must turn down the heat.
Speaker 4: Experts met to discuss these findings. They said that humanity
Speaker 4: is on thin ice. One environmentalist Inger Anderson that she
Speaker 4: believes the world has the technology and then know how
Speaker 4: to get the job done. The key is restoration and sustainability.
Speaker 13: Renewable energy instead of fossil fuels, energy efficiency, green transport,
Speaker 13: green urban infrastructure, halting deforestation, ecosystem restoration, sustainable food systems
Speaker 13: including reduced food loss and waste. Investing in these areas
Speaker 13: and more besides will help to stabilize our climate, but.
Speaker 4: It might not be easy to get governments or industry
Speaker 4: leaders on board to make these chain or to look
Speaker 4: at sustainability right away. The report also says that climate
Speaker 4: change has impacted humans, animals, and all of our environments
Speaker 4: across the world, with those who have generally least contributed
Speaker 4: to climate change being the most vulnerable and disproportionately affected.
Speaker 4: The men on the Arctic Lady are finishing up transferring
Speaker 4: the last of Tanner crab. That means this temporary gig
Speaker 4: for Chad bed and the rest of his crew is
Speaker 4: about to end, and it's time to look for the next.
Speaker 12: I'm going to keep doing everything I can to keep
Speaker 12: the boat busy, the guy's busy, and move forward.
Speaker 7: I'm going to keep looking for jobs to do, and
Speaker 7: that's all I can do until it rebounds.
Speaker 4: Chad knows that he isn't the only one in this situation,
Speaker 4: and he knows that the snow crab fishing season probably
Speaker 4: won't be back up and running as it used to.
Speaker 7: Well, I thank god that I saved for a rainy day, and.
Speaker 12: I was fortunate enough to be taught by my dad to,
Speaker 12: you know, save your money because you never know when
Speaker 12: the rainy day is gonna come. And it's here, and
Speaker 12: we did save and we're fortunate to be one of
Speaker 12: the boats that may be able to weather the storm.
Speaker 7: It's not going to be easy. We're not going to
Speaker 7: be living the high life. Definitely gonna have some cuts
Speaker 7: coming here and a new way of life. But I
Speaker 7: hope in three to five years, we're back at it.
Speaker 4: And the reality though, is right that some boats that
Speaker 4: probably will not make it right through these next couple
Speaker 4: of years.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say two thirds of the fleet will not
Speaker 7: make it. You just can't do it. You can't have
Speaker 7: an operation like this and not do anything and park
Speaker 7: it at the docks.
Speaker 12: It's not gonna work. So there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 12: of guys that don't make it. You know, the community
Speaker 12: is going to be hurt. People are going to have
Speaker 12: to find other things to do. I don't know, you
Speaker 12: know what else to say, other than it's going to
Speaker 12: affect it. It's gonna be tough times.
Speaker 4: Fethero's and Chad's lives are at a crossroads as they
Speaker 4: continue to live with the effects of climate change. They
Speaker 4: also each represent two perspectives of this crisis. Chad, as
Speaker 4: captain of the Arctic Lady, has found ways to keep
Speaker 4: his business running, while Fed is someone who works on
Speaker 4: that boat, a fisherman. And it seems like right now
Speaker 4: there are two visible paths. The first, stay in an
Speaker 4: industry that you've been in for generations and remain hopeful,
Speaker 4: or the second make a shift and try to get
Speaker 4: out of the industry before it's too late. Both are
Speaker 4: difficult options.
Speaker 3: This is temp.
Speaker 4: Back on Bethero's favorite beach, an hour away from the city.
Speaker 4: Bethero says he and his family have talked about making
Speaker 4: the move away from Alaska, maybe to California. He's considering
Speaker 4: looking for a job in construction or as a truck driver.
Speaker 4: Six months after my visit to Kodiak, Bethero tells me
Speaker 4: he's still out fishing and doing temporary jobs. It's August
Speaker 4: and it's salmon fishing season, but as expected, he and
Speaker 4: the other fishermen are not making as much money, and
Speaker 4: not many things have changed. He's still worried about his
Speaker 4: family's future. Moving away from Kodiak is still in his plans,
Speaker 4: but for now he's waiting to hear of the snow
Speaker 4: crab season. We'll come back this year. There are inklings
Speaker 4: of hope that it might, but he and so many
Speaker 4: others are on edge. The announcement will come sometime in
Speaker 4: the fall. As for Moisas Betherro's son, he's actually also
Speaker 4: fishing for salmon, right next to his father on the
Speaker 4: same fishing boat.
Speaker 2: This episode was produced by Renaldo Lanos Junior and edited
Speaker 2: by Daisy Gontredras. It was mixed by Julio Caruso and
Speaker 2: jj Carubin.
Speaker 7: Fact checking for.
Speaker 2: This episode by Elizabeth Lenthal Torres. Special thanks to Kirsten
Speaker 2: doe Brath, former news director of kmx T, the local
Speaker 2: public radio station in Kodiak, Alaska. The Latino USA team
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