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Speaker 1: Late fifteen ten touched up.

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Speaker 2: What's Up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly. Chris Hayrey here with you, along with the

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Speaker 2: Voice of the Chargers Matt money Smith and Buddy. First,

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Speaker 2: I just want to say that Jesse Mitzer interview last

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Speaker 2: week was awesome. It was good man, next level football

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Speaker 2: conversation and just a really detailed breakdown of this incoming

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Speaker 2: defensive draft class. I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man, Yeah, and a huge thanks to Josh and

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Speaker 1: Ricky and everyone over there for helping out. And that's

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Speaker 1: just the first. You know, we're gonna get coach Roman,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get Coach Ficken, so we'll get all the

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Speaker 1: coordinators in there, and you know, they kind of laid

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Speaker 1: out our schedule with everything kind of ramping up and

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Speaker 1: getting rolling now Phase two and rookie camp and all

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Speaker 1: that that's happening this week. It's exciting we get you know,

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Speaker 1: we have football back. It's back, and you certainly got

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Speaker 1: that cent at the facility and talking to coach and

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Speaker 1: bringing in the draft class and getting excited about getting

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Speaker 1: his hands on these guys and coaching them up. So

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Speaker 1: it certainly feels different. I felt like these last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, Chris, It's it's had a different feel the

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Speaker 1: Chargers weekly, Like, yeah, we're we're kind of back in

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Speaker 1: this thing. Man, it's the off season, but it's not,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's not the off

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Speaker 1: season anymore. Like stuff's happening.

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Speaker 2: Stuff's happening. Especially next week too. We have the schedule

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Speaker 2: release next week, and if I'm not mistaken, I think

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Speaker 2: Joe Ortiz is going to join the program next week too.

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned the coaches, we'll get the GM next

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Speaker 2: week to talk about some of these rookies and undrafted

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Speaker 2: free agents, and you know, obviously I think top of

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Speaker 2: mind this weekend is a rookie mini camp and I

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of questions that we'll go through over

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Speaker 2: the next hour or so. But just kind of your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on rookie mini camp this upcoming weekend and maybe

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Speaker 2: a couple of guys that you're excited to see out

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Speaker 2: there on the grass.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think just starts with the number one pick,

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Speaker 1: you know, with with Amarion and what he looks like,

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Speaker 1: because he's you know, there's guys that you want getting

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Speaker 1: off the bus first, and a Marion is one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. The way he's built, how well he moves

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Speaker 1: at that size, it's going to be fun to see

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Speaker 1: him out there. And you know, we remember we were

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Speaker 1: out on the field last year, Chris at training camp,

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Speaker 1: and it was funny just to see jk and and

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Speaker 1: Gus standing next to each other and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they come in different sizes, and you know, Lamaran's in

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Speaker 1: go with with that kind of size. So that's going

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Speaker 1: to be fun. I think kind of, you know, skill

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Speaker 1: different you can be built and still operate at a

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Speaker 1: high level. You know, Trey Harris and Keandrey Lambert Smith,

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Speaker 1: they're going to look totally different standing next to each other.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, that's you know, just kind

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Speaker 1: of what's the And I'm sure there's questions, so I

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Speaker 1: don't want to jump the gun here, but you know,

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Speaker 1: what's the makeup of that wide receiver room? You know

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Speaker 1: Steve Oclott seeing him get out there, you know, having

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Speaker 2: We have a UDFA question in our mail bag today too,

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Speaker 2: but let's just get right into him first. One is

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Speaker 2: from Noami Money. Georgie said on the Up and Adams

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Speaker 2: Show that they are still looking to add to all

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Speaker 2: position groups. What is one position group that you both

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Speaker 2: think is not obvious to us fans that needs more

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Speaker 2: at tension, more additions rather, who would you like to

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Speaker 1: Well, I think just kind of trying to build out

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say that the Edge group just for

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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking of just like like a veteran in

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Speaker 1: The next couple of mourners out there still right, aren't there?

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Speaker 2: Mentioned that he's surprising to me, Money Sheriff is surprising

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Speaker 2: It reminds me of the I think the points you

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Speaker 2: of like, hey, you know, we can we can get

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Speaker 2: Out, sure it makes a ton of sense. And then

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Speaker 2: So I do think that the team does as much

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Speaker 1: You can get that word out through social media and

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Speaker 1: Like that's not going to happen. These guys have a

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Speaker 2: you think.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be the same, just backed

431
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: in replacing Trey. To me, that's what it is because

432
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: that allows Trey to be that swing, you know, to

433
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 1: go back to tackle if needed. Hopefully he's not, but

434
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: if he's needed like he did last year. You know

435
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 1: when when Slater went down and All went to the

436
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: left side and he popped up, I think he played

437
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: the right tackle that day if I remember right. So

438
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: I think that makes to me, that's just what it

439
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: looks like. That's so why they brought Bradley Boseman back.

440
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 1: They like him. Everybody on the team loves him. We

441
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 1: talk about the makeup of an O line room and

442
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: how important it is to have those guys connected and

443
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: comfortable in chemistry. And while I know the pass protection

444
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: was a bit of a struggle, especially in that Houston

445
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: Texans game, with Jamari there at right guard. I think

446
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: that's just the way it lines up. Even though they

447
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: didn't pick up Zion's fifty year option and they've talked

448
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: about trying him at center. I just he would really

449
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: have the wow coach Devln and Hardwick and Greg Roman

450
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: and Harbaugh to take that center spot, I think away

451
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: from Bozeman because now you're moving two guys. Now you're

452
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: moving Boseman to guard and or maybe you know, maybe

453
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: it's Zion at center and Trey at left guy. I

454
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: just don't like to me, it just makes too much

455
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: sense draft capital wise, how highly they think of Zion

456
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: and they're just like, man, it's just it's so close,

457
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: it's so close. Can we just get it to that

458
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: finish line?

459
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: How close do you think the gap is between Bozeman

460
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: and Andre James, who has sixty starts in the NFL too,

461
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: And you know, over the last three years, actually four years,

462
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: seventeen starts, fifteen starts, sixteen starts, eleven starts in Vegas.

463
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough because you look two years ago and

464
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: I know he graded out a lot better. Last year

465
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: was an abject failure for pretty much the Raiders offense. Period,

466
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard to stick that on somebody.

467
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's not a bad offensive

468
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: line group. And you know, he really struggled last year,

469
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: so I think that's I would be very surprised if

470
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: he were able to beat Bozeman out. I think, you know,

471
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: if you go out and you sign Ryan Kelly for

472
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: ten million bucks, it's like, yeah, he's getting the starting job.

473
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: But I think you look at Andre James and he

474
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: was released by released by the Raiders, and the Chargers

475
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: gave him a very low, veteran minimum level deal. You know,

476
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a you know, it helps to

477
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: look at the money, like how much did they give him?

478
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: And is it like out here, let me pull up

479
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: the OTC right now he is. He is making one

480
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: point one million dollars. Uh. So it's not a deal

481
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: that says, oh yeah, this guy's coming in to compete

482
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: for that job. I mean at one point one, let's

483
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: see what's because Bradley, I think got he got a

484
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: two year deal. So I'm guessing that Bradley got CANSI yeah,

485
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: Bradley's he's at one two, five to five base. But

486
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: so he's at he is at five million dollar cap

487
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: number this year, right, that's his cap number. Andre James

488
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: is one point one. What does that tell you? You

489
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: know that that tells you that competitors welcome. Yeah, that

490
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: that Bradley's probably ahead of the game there for for center,

491
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: and I think Zion is going to play. They've got it.

492
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: They've invested a first round picking him. He's had flashes

493
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: of greatness and he struggled mightily. But because you have

494
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: both ends of that spectrum, they're trying to get him,

495
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, toward that that greatness that we've seen at times.

496
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: So that's just that's what I figure.

497
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: We've We've addressed most of this question, but I'll just

498
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: ask this one. This is from Mario. Does it worry

499
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: you that we haven't fully addressed the interior offensive line,

500
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: which was clearly a major issue last season. Beckton was

501
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: a great signing, but that's one of three needs. Should

502
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: he be out for a game, we're right back to

503
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 2: where we started.

504
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, I certainly think it's fair. Look that

505
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: Beckton signing was fantastic. It's a huge signing. So you

506
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: know you're not talking about and I thought Trey played

507
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: okay last year. Look, Trey could end up if it's

508
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: possible that he wins that guard spot. You know, he

509
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: played okay, you know, he played all right, and that's

510
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: what you needed offensive line. You just can't have bad.

511
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If you have bad, they're going to

512
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: find it and they're going to attack it relentlessly. All

513
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: you need when you have excellence great because now you

514
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: can find a way to help where you don't have excellence.

515
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: So you know, DJ says it all the time, as

516
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: long as you know, and to use a term that

517
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: he has, he's like, as long as you don't have

518
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: a tomato can, you're fine. But if you have one,

519
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: that's when you got a problem. If you can, you

520
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: don't need to be exceptional at all five positions. You

521
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: just got to be good enough. And when you have

522
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: Alton Slater at the edges, you're exceptional there and that

523
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: certainly helps a lot.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a lot to ask, you know,

525
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: Branson Taylor to come in and compete at one of

526
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: those guard spots in year one, and the fact that

527
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: they didn't really address interier offensive line in the draft,

528
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: it makes you look at some of these free agents,

529
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: and we mentioned Brandon Sheriff Shaq Mason, will Hernandez Dalton Reisner.

530
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: You know there's guys out there still, But to your

531
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: point earlier, are they going to come in and actually

532
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: compete and beat out the guys that are currently on

533
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: this roster?

534
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Speaker 1: I just you know, I look at the combined nine

535
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: million bucks between Bozeman and Zion. You know, five million

536
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: for Bozeman is his cap number this year. Four point

537
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: six for Zion is his cap number for this year.

538
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: Like that to me, says, okay, there's your center in

539
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: your guard. You know, Mackay at seven and a half million,

540
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: obviously old seven and a half million, Slater at nineteen million.

541
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: They're sure you know those are the top five offensive

542
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: line salary numbers.

543
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: Just that's what it looks like to me. Yeah, all right,

544
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: let's keep it rolling. This is from Nuthouse. What a

545
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: great name. QJ. Going to be better next year, Gonna

546
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: be putting a role where he's going to excel. I say,

547
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: his stats will suffer because there's more cooks in the kitchen,

548
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: but he will look even better than last year. Raiders

549
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: game was not an outlier. I tend to agree with

550
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: with Nuthouse and the fact that he was I think

551
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 2: relied upon a little bit too much last year. And

552
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: with the additions of Trey Harris and Mike Williams, maybe

553
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: Q can settle into a role where he kind of

554
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: has a specialty role in this offense and isn't look

555
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: to do maybe more than he I guess I just

556
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: feel like this past year money he was asked to

557
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: do maybe a little bit too much.

558
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I've said it, and it's not a slight

559
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: He's just not an X. That's not what Q is.

560
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: You know. Q's a Z. He's a good see, you know,

561
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: and if you can get him, you know, when you

562
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: have Mike, that's who I think you're starting three will be.

563
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: Michael be the X, you know, Mike Williams, that'll be

564
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: your slot. Q will be the Z. And considering you

565
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: know Mike's age, Mike's history, You've got Trey Harris ready

566
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: to take some of those reps and if something should

567
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: happen to step in because Trey's an X, you know.

568
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: Now the interesting one is KeAndre Lambert Smith with that

569
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: four to three speed makes it interesting as a Z.

570
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: Get him outside if he's able to get off press.

571
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: Now you got four to three speed running down the

572
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: field and that helps a lot. I mean, so I

573
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: totally get and I think that's kind of where the

574
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: conversation sort of comes in with how does this wide

575
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: receiver room get built. I don't think there's any question

576
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: with the chemistry and the production that Mike Williams and

577
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert have had in the past, that he's going

578
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: to be your starting X, you know, no question about it.

579
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: And Ladd obviously is going to be your starting slot,

580
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: and Q, I think will be your starting Z. And

581
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: then you look behind him, you know that Darius Davis

582
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: and Trey Trey Harris and and Andre Lambert Smith are

583
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: going to make the team. So they're six. Now how

584
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: many wide receivers are carrying, you know, And that's where

585
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: it gets kind of interesting with and Rice and you know,

586
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson and some of these guys that you know,

587
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: you think about last year with Simmy and and dudes

588
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: that we thought were on the roster bubble that made it,

589
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: and you know, this year, it doesn't feel like that

590
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: at all. It feels like, Okay, it's it's it's it's

591
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: a pretty it's a deep room and it's gonna be

592
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's Jalen Rager. I forgot they resigned Jalen Rager.

593
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: Like that's it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be a

594
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: tough room. It's gonna be a tough room to crack

595
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: and make the fifty three good money.

596
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: I always go back to Herbert's rookie season and you

597
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: know we've we've mentioned the names t Billy and Jalen Guy.

598
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: You wonder how Justin is going to mesh with some

599
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: of these young rookies immediately. Sometimes it clicks really quickly.

600
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: Look at lad last year exactly. Look at that, you

601
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: know with Trey Harris, maybe he gets on the field

602
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 2: sooner than later. You mentioned KeAndre and his speed. Uh

603
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: I love I love the Gats and U pick up.

604
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: You know we didn't get to do that talk about

605
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: day three. Gats another kind of athletic tight end that

606
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 2: you add to the Disley and Conkland room. And I

607
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: just I am fascinated to see how Justin will kind

608
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: of pick up with some of these new guys and

609
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: how quickly that chemistry starts. And you know the fact

610
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: that you that you had a whole season with Q

611
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: in such a feature role last year. I think that

612
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: will help Quentin in year three as well.

613
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other thing too about wide receiver. How

614
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: often were they in thirteen? I mean it's a team

615
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: that was running twelve like crazy, you know, like they

616
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: I should say thirteen. How often were they in eleven?

617
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: Like how often they have three receivers out there? Like

618
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: this is a team that was in twelve? You know

619
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: which is you know, first number backs, second number tight ends.

620
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: I know all of you probably know it, but for

621
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: those that don't, that's what it is. So a lot

622
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: of two tight ends and I mentioned number thirteen, they

623
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: ran a lot of thirteen where you know, you could

624
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: argue that Matt Locke or however you want to classify him,

625
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, or twenty two. You know, if Tucker Fisk

626
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: is playing fullback, Mattlock's playing fullback, they're running twenty two,

627
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: they're running thirteen, They're running twelve like that's just what

628
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: they've run. And with Gadsden, that'll be interesting right where

629
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: it'll feel like thirteen. But the third tight end is

630
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: lined up in the slot and he's a dude that

631
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: can freak and get after it and is an athlete,

632
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: and so that's there's gonna be some real cool combinations

633
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: that Greg Roman's going to have to work with, you know,

634
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: for this, and you think about sort of how he

635
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: did it in Baltimore, you know, with all those tight

636
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: ends and how effective they were, And it's gonna be fun.

637
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: Gadsten's a It's gonna be a fun one, no doubt

638
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: about it. Now. Look, he's probably not gonna get a

639
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: ton of snaps because of the Conklent signing and just

640
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: how good Conklin is, how he's got great hands, and

641
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: he's certainly a great athletic tight end, you know, a

642
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: really good athletic tight end. I think he fits perfectly

643
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: with Fisk and Disley, So he's going to get the

644
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: majority of those snaps, but it'll be fun to kind

645
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: of sprinkle those in there from time to time.

646
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: One of the fun themes of the last couple of

647
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: years with Joe Ortiz, he's identified players with NFL fathers,

648
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: right with Joe alt in Round one last year and

649
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: and gas that I remember him as a dolphin. And

650
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: our next question Mickens. Remember Ray Mickens with the Jets.

651
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: I this is from Kevin Adrian. I think Nickens is

652
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: the clear replacement for a low heat when his contract

653
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: expires this season. I think he's going to get plenty

654
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: of starting snaps his rookie year and might leap Jefferson

655
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: on the depth chart. Thoughts, I think the Chargers only

656
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: roster Ford safeties on their fifty three and twenty four Well, Kevin,

657
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: I think it starts on special teams for mister Mickens.

658
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to kind of earn his way onto

659
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: the field. And you know, I love the confidence and

660
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: im and I think I just hearing Jesse talk about

661
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: him last week, it's it sounds like it's a great

662
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: signing in the sixth round, But I think it's gonna

663
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: take a little time to kind of crack that depth

664
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: chart in the safety room right now.

665
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean you look at Mickens and you know,

666
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: in terms of like a replace meant for a looie,

667
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: I think he's probably better closer to the ball, you know,

668
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: in terms of but he can do it all like

669
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: he's but but you started with the perfect way to

670
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: set the tone is this is this is a Ryan

671
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Ficken pick. You know, get me Bridges, get me Mickens.

672
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: I think Canard in the fourth like these are guys

673
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: that are going to be special teamers, and they're going

674
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: to need to replace all these dudes you know that

675
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: left and they lost. You know when you lose nickname

676
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: and you're talking about one of the best special teams

677
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: players in the league loss, And so like, these are

678
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: the guys that he's going to have to coach up.

679
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: And you know, Dean Leonard's still there, and you still

680
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: have Quiet, you still have some guys, but like Chris

681
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: Rump is gone, and I know he was out all

682
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: last year, but he loves having that athletic d ND

683
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: edge kind of player. That's probably where Canard fits in

684
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: a little bit because of how he's going to be

685
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: used as as sort of a DPR role as as

686
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: opposed to a three down lineman. So I would assume

687
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: he's going to get these They're they're hoping he can

688
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: be a core four guy. So I think that's where

689
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: it starts. In terms of Aloe's contract, I think it's

690
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 1: don't don't underestimate how important he is to this team

691
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: and how much this team loves him, and and you

692
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: know it can't all be sizzle. Aloe's Aloe is is

693
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: I like to say, you know, he's the grout. You

694
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: get your focus on the tile, but you also got

695
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: to have the grout to hold the tile together. And

696
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: that's what Aloe is man. He just he connects, He

697
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: connects things really well. He's a smart player, has a

698
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: nose for the ball as tough as nails. And and

699
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: so I don't think just I don't think you assume

700
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: that he's just going to be gone when his contracts up.

701
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that they I could totally

702
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: see them, you know, unless unless Mackings flashes, you know,

703
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: unless Bridges flashes. Is you know, like that's that's kind

704
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: of how these things work.

705
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: Aloe's one of those rare players too, who who translates

706
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: to another administration.

707
00:34:59,680 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: Right.

708
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: He he was drafted by Tom Telesco, and you would

709
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: have thought that Joe Ortiz and Jim Harball drafted him

710
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: as high as they think of him on the field

711
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: and off the field. So I agree with you in

712
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: terms of a LOHI and his impact in that secondary

713
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: And and Durwin loves him, and Darwin loves playing with

714
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: him because.

715
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm always in the right position. So it's a great

716
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: safety group. I mean, it's it's one of the true

717
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: strengths of this team is Molden Gilman in Durwin. I mean,

718
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: it's it's as good as safety trio as you have

719
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: anywhere in the league. So the idea that you're just

720
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: going to break that up and Mickens is going to

721
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: start earning some snaps, Like you're talking about breaking up

722
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: a group that, if you were to rank them, is

723
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: right up there at the top. It's not something I

724
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: would want to see, no, But I.

725
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: Like Kevin's thinking because he's he's looking at the fifth

726
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: round last year with Cam harton tarhek Still and guys

727
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: who are playing a lot. But uh, and it's a

728
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: great one by Kevin because a Lowie gets hurt. You know.

729
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: Lowe has gotten hurt, you know, and missed a game

730
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: or two every year. So that's that's why it's it's

731
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: certainly a great point to bring up. You've got to

732
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: have some depth there.

733
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I you know, they lost Elijah in the

734
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: Patriots game and that was a big blow in the

735
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: playoff game. So all right, let's keep this rolling. Double

736
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: M three questions. Who are your guys' top three guesses

737
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: of the udfas to make the roster? Who would be

738
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: your surprise cut or trade before the season starts, and

739
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: who is one trade free agent signing you think the

740
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: Bolts should make around this time of time of training camp,

741
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: preseason as far as surprise cut trades, you know, just

742
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: just looking at how a lot of these contracts are

743
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 2: set up. Money, I don't really see unless I'm missing somebody.

744
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 2: I don't see a player that's making like a ton

745
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: of money that that we're going to be like completely

746
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: shocked if they get cut or if they get traded, Like,

747
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't see that player on this roster, do you.

748
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just would prefer not to answer that.

749
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: You're talking about somebody losing their job. We're talking about

750
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: somebody getting fired. So yeah, for me, that's not one

751
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna to jump into. Just not comfortable doing it,

752
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: to be honest. And I don't And I'm with you,

753
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know who who that would be.

754
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: And I just don't see I.

755
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: Don't see it one of those. I don't see one

756
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: of those like camp cut candidates on the on the

757
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: roster right now. The we kind of talked about this

758
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: in terms of a free agent signing that the Bolts

759
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: should make as training camp gets closer, and I think

760
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: a lot of that is kind of contingent on injuries

761
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: and you know what happens in camp and in terms

762
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: of adding somebody. But if you're going coming in with

763
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: the clean slate, you know, I mentioned as you mentioned

764
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: corner before, I don't think that really changes.

765
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just the udfas that he talked about, you know,

766
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: there's always seems like there's always one, you know, or

767
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: two or something along those lines. Last year, you know,

768
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: the bell of the ball was Tremon Morris brash that

769
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: everyone got excited about really flashed. Just kind of going

770
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: through it to me just based on you know, look,

771
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: I think about what are the two positions that we

772
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: talked about, right, Garmin Randolph, who's got a bunch of production,

773
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: COVID guy, six year edge player, all the measurables, you know,

774
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: he could flash. And then you know Nico Reid the

775
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: corner out of Oregon again a ton of experience and

776
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: a ton of production. And I just kind of look

777
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: at that position group that and and the special teams.

778
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, Coach Ficken likes corners and he likes

779
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: those super athletic edge players for special teams as well,

780
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: so I think it's those two. There's a lot of

781
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: people that have been asking about Raheem Sanders the running back,

782
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: and I just I and look, yeah, sure, it's a

783
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: team that likes to run the ball. But then I

784
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: just look what's in front of them, you know. I mean,

785
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about Najie Harris and Amari and Hampton and

786
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: Hassan Haskins. Is you know, their short yardage special teams guy,

787
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: he's he's a lock for the team. And you know,

788
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: whatever what they asked him to do last year he

789
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: was great at So is is Raheem gonna Are they

790
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: gonna carry four backs?

791
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: You know?

792
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: And a fullback like it? So I don't. And then

793
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: there's you know, we've we've talked about him a bunch,

794
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: Steve O. Klatt's you know guy who's played fullback, you know.

795
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: And I know they love Scott Mattlock and they love

796
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: his development and he's certainly turned into a heck of

797
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: a player. But if you have a guy that's been

798
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: a full back for a couple of years now, I mean,

799
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: he's a tight end full back hybrid, but he's a

800
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: dude that likes to mix it up, then that's one

801
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: that I could see get interesting if they're like ooh's.

802
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: So those are probably the three. I think Reed, Randolph

803
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: and Klotts would be the three i'd circle.

804
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: I'll give you one more, Jordan Oladokin a corner from

805
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: Bowling Green, and these are just kind of I know,

806
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: the competition isn't the same as the sec of the

807
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: Big Ten, Big twelve, but one of three quarterbacks in

808
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: college football who allowed zero touchdowns number two and fewest

809
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: allowed receiving yards two hund nineteen and an opposing passer

810
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: rating of eighteen point four plus he took the ball

811
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: away a bunch, So you never know how that competition

812
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: is going to translate to the NFL. But again, I

813
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: just think of that marriage of Jesse Minter and the

814
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: way he's developed quarterbacks. Maybe he's the guy to watch them.

815
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, great point. They love production. Right, If you produce,

816
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: it's clear you know how to play football exactly, all.

817
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: Right, Alex. Do you know if je Ortiz or coach

818
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: Harbaugh ever listened to Chargers weekly. I don't know. I

819
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: think they probably have. They probably have better things to do,

820
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: more important things to do than to listen to us.

821
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: Bunny though.

822
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, my answer to that is, I hope not. I'd

823
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: be it'd be flattering if they did. But I think

824
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. If you asked me,

825
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: would you rather they do or don't, I'd probably answer

826
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: I'd rather they That would be my answer to that one.

827
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: All right, Ferdie June your two questions, what's going on

828
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: with Ezekiel Elliott? But nothing Zeke. I remember seeing Zeke

829
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: in the building the day or two days before the

830
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: Wildcard game, and Zeke was a signing. If they beat

831
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: the Texans, maybe you play him in Kansas City. But

832
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: I just don't know if he has a future on

833
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: the Chargers this year.

834
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: No, definitely.

835
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 2: Should we expect to see Brendan Rice on the roster

836
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: this year? And you kind of went through that, you

837
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: went through all the wide series. I have him as

838
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: like why receiver seven right now behind lad Trey, Mike Quintin, KeAndre,

839
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: Jalen Rieger and Brendon.

840
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: At that point. Yeah, I mean you look at you know,

841
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: they carried six wide receivers last year. That's that's you know,

842
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm going let me see only go to nine nine two? Uh,

843
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: they did carry seven. They had Rice, remember on the

844
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: roster out of camp, so he broke camp, making it.

845
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: So in September they had seven, let's go to October,

846
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: they were down to six November six, December six, January five.

847
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: So there that's you know, you got the two draft

848
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: picks that are making it. You got Q. You know

849
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: what you got Darius. And then the question comes with

850
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: Darius Davis. You know, as we talked about him last year,

851
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: had a couple of election plays on the field. He's

852
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: got blazing speed, He's a great returner. KeAndre Lambert Smith

853
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: has no special teams experience. You don't want Ladd back

854
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: there returning punts and kicks and take an extra punishment already,

855
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: you know beyond what he is. So to me, Darius

856
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: makes it. So there's your six man, you know, Mike

857
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: Trey at the X. You got Darius Davis, Lad McConkie,

858
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: and your two rookies. All right, I already said Trey.

859
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: So you have Trey Harris, Mike Williams, Lad McConkie, Quinton Darius.

860
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: And it's my problem. Why am I so stupid? It's

861
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: like I can't make this easy on myself. Yeah, that's it.

862
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: It's Darius Davis, Lad McConkie, Tray Harris KeAndre Quinton and

863
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: Mike there's I mean.

864
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: I didn't even I'd even I think of Darius as

865
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: like like this offensive weapon. Then I didn't even have it.

866
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, Brenda Rice would be eight.

867
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Well so you're thinking, oh, you're thinking Brendan as because right,

868
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: because then you like the next group is Brendan Rice,

869
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Rager, Jalen Johnson. There's your seven eight nine, right, Yeah,

870
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: you know that's that's your seven eight nine. If you're

871
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: gonna carry seven, those three guys duking it out. I

872
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: just especially with the tight ends they're gonna carry. They're

873
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna carry four tight ends Disley, Conklin, Fisk and Gadsden,

874
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna carry four, you know.

875
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: And then you I was gonna say Brendan was only

876
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: active for three games last season, three offensive snaps, so yeah,

877
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately doesn't really have any time on task

878
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: with Justin in a game.

879
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but look, he can still jump up and win

880
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: a gig, no doubt. I just feel like those those

881
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: two rookies are gonna make it. And when you put

882
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: those two rookies with the other four, you're at six

883
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: and it's just it's it's a numbers issue, and nobody

884
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: plucked him off the practice squad. So you know, if

885
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: that's where he is and you get a call up

886
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: and any flashes, then great, here we go.

887
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, a few more money laser beaming. Now

888
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: that we know a boy Be has put on some weight,

889
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: is there any buzz going around about what the significance

890
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: of his role is going to look like? Seems like

891
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: a great opportunity for him to step up. That was

892
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: one of the key takeaways from the pod last week.

893
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: Is a boy be put on twenty pounds after the

894
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: season and you know what does coach say? Competitors welcome,

895
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: you bring in hand, you bring in Jones, a lot

896
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: of potential opportunity defensive tackle this upcoming year.

897
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's wide open. You know, it's not like

898
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: they signed Milt Williams or anything. You know, these are

899
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: all guys that are going to be competing for that rotation.

900
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: Obviously Caldwell, I would suspect Is and tier Tart are

901
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: are going to be in there. But yeah, can a

902
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: boy be jump ahead at Sean Hann you know Tito

903
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: kind of how does that all line up? Yeah? I

904
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: think it's wide open for him to get in there.

905
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: And you know how much they like to rotate those guys.

906
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, think back to last year, you really just

907
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: kind of had Poona as you're one constant, and then

908
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: after that it was sort of that rotation of Tito,

909
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: of Morgan, of you know, Tuley kicking inside it put

910
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: Joey kicking. It's like they rotated the heck out of

911
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: that group. Tierra ended up. Remember Tier started the season

912
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: just getting a couple of snats here and there, and

913
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: then by the end of the season he was out

914
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: there all the time. So I think a boyd B

915
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: is going to be in that mix for sure. Based

916
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: on what coach said.

917
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: Uh the lago thanks for all the hard work this

918
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: offseason fellas what was your favorite move of the offseason

919
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: thus far, whether it's free agency, draft, et cetera, And

920
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: who has the biggest impact for the team in twenty

921
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: twenty five? What are you thinking to start? I was

922
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: just gonna say, o, Marion Hampton, I think that he's that.

923
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: You know, for for as much as the narrative had

924
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: been like, hey, let's get justin Herbert weapons, I think

925
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: Omarin Hampton is going to be the biggest weapon for

926
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: Justin in terms of the running game, and he reminds

927
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: me of a Saquon Barkley type and that he can

928
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: really carry the load in a game, and you know,

929
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: he's just the total package. So between between him and

930
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: I think getting a guy like Trey Harrison, I just

931
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: I think that his potential the first two rounds in

932
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: the draft really got me excited about the offense.

933
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm gonna and it's just because I was so

934
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: convinced it was gonna happen and I for whatever reason,

935
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why, I couldn't have been more wrong.

936
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: You didn't even get an interview. But I just think

937
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: the fact that jesse Menter's back, Like I was convinced,

938
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy between college and the NFL is

939
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: gonna get interviewed and he's so good in the room

940
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get a job, And for whatever reason,

941
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: it didn't line up. So I think having him back

942
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: for another year after what he did last year man

943
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: is is huge. I just think it is huge for

944
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: this team to have that second year and that goes

945
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: for coach Roman too, like just another year of continuity

946
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: with both coordinators back, but just what Jesse was able

947
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: to do with a number of guys on one year deals,

948
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: Let's drop him in, Like think about all the just

949
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: the one week of Eli Apple, the one week of

950
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: Marcus made the like, how good of a job? And

951
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: that's and it's beyond and I say coach Minner, but

952
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: it's it's everyone right, the fact that that Clink is back,

953
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: that Elston's back, that all of the Navarl Bowman are back,

954
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: like all these guys are back, Chrys O'Leary the safety

955
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: coach has gone, you know, Fuller's in. But like there's

956
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: just continuity, man, And I think that goes a long

957
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: long way.

958
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the defense obviously is so important to have

959
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: that that continuity and that consistency because the turnaround from

960
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: the year before Harball and mintser guide here to what

961
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: they did in their first year was just remarkable and

962
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: really a big reason why they won eleven games this year. Yeah,

963
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 2: we talk about it the Harball, the way that they play,

964
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: It was really the defense because and that's why I

965
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: say Hampton and I would actually kind of plug in

966
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: Naje Harrows and Mackai Beckton and that too, is that

967
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: they are completely trying to remake the running game here,

968
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: and you know, JK had a really good bounce back year,

969
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: but collectively that running game just did not look like

970
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: a Jim Harball running game if you look at his

971
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: history at Michigan and his time in the NFL with

972
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 2: the Niners. I think I mentioned earlier in the podcast,

973
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: PFF gave him a grade of twenty ninth in the

974
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: NFL in the running game. So when you bring in

975
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: Hampton and you bring in Harris, we talked about the

976
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: durability of both of those guys. Beckton a guy who

977
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: was a run greater for Sakuon Barkley. That's going to

978
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: help Justin Herbert. And I think that if you had

979
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 2: something like that going into a playoff game in twenty

980
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: twenty five, maybe that looks a little bit different because

981
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: they're going to play a different way and they're going

982
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: to have two guys in the backfield that just don't

983
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: miss starts. And I think that was that was the

984
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: biggest thing for me, is bringing a guy like Nauji

985
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: who has not missed the game in the NFL, and

986
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: bringing a young guy like Hampton, who, if it wasn't

987
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: for gent, would be the top running back.

988
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: That's a great point. It's a great point, availability man,

989
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: because we saw when guys went down it was a

990
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: real struggle, especially JK. Yeah.

991
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: A couple more This is from Michael. Who do you

992
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: guys think the opponent will be for the Brazil game?

993
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: There was some chatter about Mahomes and Chiefs will want

994
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: to play in it, but I think it's the Texans

995
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: that makes the most sense. I don't know. I mean,

996
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: I think Pro Football Talk had a report that it

997
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: could be the Chiefs potential to the Chiefs, you think

998
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: it's the Chiefs. Yeah, so you so you would lose

999
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: that home game in so far and then play Patrick

1000
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: Mahomes in Brazil? Which one.

1001
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: It's the way it has to be, you know, Chiefs.

1002
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: Chiefs always get the Chargers on a short week. We

1003
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: go there on a Thursday night. They never you know,

1004
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: It's just just the way it is. And we know that.

1005
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: You know Clark hunt as he's all about that, man,

1006
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: He's all about it. And I think if the NFL,

1007
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: you know, here's the Chiefs, say we'll go like great,

1008
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: let's go. You know that's because that's I believe that's

1009
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: a that's a streaming game. I think or it's a

1010
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: peacock game.

1011
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: It's a peacock game, and it's a Friday peacock game

1012
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: that they wanted. They want a big they want a

1013
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: big team next to Herbert and the Chargers for sure.

1014
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's think about what what Goodell's

1015
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: I'll just just look at the look at the read

1016
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 1: the tea leaves. You know, what did Goodell say around

1017
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: the draft? He said, you know, we we expect to

1018
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: have sixteen of these games a year, and it's another

1019
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: revenue source where they can sell these sixteen games you buy,

1020
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: we're selling the international package. You get all the international games.

1021
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: Who wants it, and that's what they're going to do.

1022
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: And so this is a showcase. And to have the

1023
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: first one be justin Herbert Patrick Mahomes, you know, and

1024
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: a standalone in a market that's only four hours you know,

1025
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: it's only one hour ahead of New York time, four

1026
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: hours ahead of LA Like, yeah, we can PLoP this

1027
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: thing in primetime and we're rolling Man on a Friday

1028
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: night and let's go sell this package and make billions

1029
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: and billions of dollars more. I love it.

1030
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would prefer it be the Raiders. I think

1031
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 2: Jim Harball versus Pete Carroll Week one in Brazil, Silver

1032
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: and Black versus the Chargers would be fun.

1033
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, just not. They need that game to cook.

1034
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: Look at last year it was Eagles Packers. You know,

1035
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: it's two playoff teams. It's gonna be too. That's why

1036
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: I thought maybe the Texans would make sense. But there's

1037
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: just not enough sizzle. I mean no, Herbert Mahomes is

1038
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: serious sizzle and that's what they want. You know, before

1039
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: the international games were here, you go, here's here's two

1040
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: bottom feeders whatever. And now it's just totally changed where

1041
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: they want big markets or really good teams with superstars

1042
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: and that's what that's what the international game is now.

1043
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not it's not six am on the West

1044
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: Coast on Sunday either. This is this is the first

1045
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 2: Friday of the NFL season, So you're right, it needs

1046
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: to be star power last one.

1047
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: Where Where are we? Where are we?

1048
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: Where are we? This is from Jason Delgado with the

1049
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: tag on JK. What do you think the chances are

1050
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: that he'll be back? Do you agree? If he does

1051
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: come back, it would be our best backfield? Says LT

1052
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 2: Turner and Sprolls probably would be. But I don't know.

1053
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 2: The Melvin Gordon Austin Eckler year in twenty eighteen was

1054
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: pretty good. But you know, I'm happy for JK if

1055
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: he does come back. I do hope that he gets

1056
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: an opportunity to actually it'd get a little bit more

1057
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: playing time somewhere else, just for me professionally, you.

1058
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: Know, for him, I hope he doesn't come back because

1059
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: it would mean that he's coming back on a one

1060
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: point seven million dollar deal, you know, So I've got

1061
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: to believe someone out there is willing to flip him

1062
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: three or four million bucks or you know, something along

1063
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: those lines, based on what he showed last year. Unless

1064
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: the medicals are just like that, that move, that move

1065
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Speaker 1: is just rolling the dice that you can get a compick.

1066
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Speaker 1: Let's let's see if we can roll the dice and

1067
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: a team, you know, he clears medicals and maybe a

1068
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: team gets an injury early and they need it back

1069
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: and they sign him, you know, and he goes out

1070
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: and performs and now here's a compick for you. Here's

1071
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: a fifth, here's a fourth, here's a sixth, whatever, and

1072
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: that that that's just what that deal screams to me,

1073
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: is there's an opportunity for them because he made it

1074
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: through the first wave to get a compick back. That's

1075
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Speaker 1: all that was, Yep, because he's gonna get out, He's

1076
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Speaker 1: going to get an offer for more money than that.

1077
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Speaker 1: I just I've got to believe he is again.

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Speaker 2: Once you get to training camp, that's when you know,

1079
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Speaker 2: especially these running backs, there's like there's I think Nick

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00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: Chubb is out there. A couple of the guys are

1081
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: out there too right now. So sometimes injuries in mini

1082
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: camp and training camp will will kind of speed up

1083
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: that process. Anything else, money, We got Joe Ortiz next week.

1084
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: Schedule released next week. So to your earlier point at

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Speaker 2: the beginning, Man, it never stops. We'll maybe get a

1086
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: brief lull in June and then back at it for

1087
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: an early training camp.

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Speaker 1: Exactly looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Man, cool, all right? For money, I'm Chris. This has

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Speaker 2: been charges weekly