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Speaker 2: uh we're gonna start here today with a little what

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Speaker 4: What's you got?

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Speaker 2: First, one pretty obvious better game winner from Monday night

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Speaker 4: Not even a question? It's Nima be Elitza of the

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Speaker 4: the Rockets thought they won. Russ Westbrook was celebrating like

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Speaker 2: It was just like the catch, perfect amount of time

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Speaker 4: Derrick Rose against True Holiday and he's got a little

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Speaker 4: mid range. It's it. It's over over, Detroit Christians. What

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Speaker 2: At the end of the game, you could hear his heartbreak.

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Speaker 2: That's it. He's over, oh man. But and look Rose

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Speaker 3: Pelicans had lost nine straight. Yeah, I think that's why

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Speaker 2: It the game big time, big time. But Trey said

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Speaker 2: mark to the Rose game winner because he did it

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Speaker 2: against Drew Holiday, one of the best defenders in the league.

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Speaker 2: Some people arguing got away with a push off, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Holiday said this, he has everything. I think it

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Speaker 2: The shot that he made was a tough shot. There

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Speaker 2: I don't think he extended the arm by any means.

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Speaker 2: It was a little bumper, Yeah, a little bump, but.

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Speaker 3: It was that's creating spice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a beautiful footwork by Derek Rosse. That

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Speaker 4: was a beautiful spin and the move was prettier than

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Speaker 4: be Alitza's. Yeah, yeah, because it was just a set

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Speaker 4: putting his stamp down in fourth quarters for the Detroit

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Speaker 4: Pistons because they need him. We could easily, as the

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Speaker 4: media be saying, if the Pistons lost this game, hope

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Speaker 4: Blake Griffin had five points, he was one of nine

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Speaker 4: Pistons aren't gonna win when Blake does that. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter seventeen to twenty one. As we've said, you

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Speaker 4: Andre Trumman still want to get his legs. Reggie Jackson,

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Speaker 2: game winner be Alitza Rose made it a poll sixty

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Speaker 2: eight percent, sixty eight point two percent. Exactly right now

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Speaker 2: as I look at this same be Alitza, people love

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Speaker 3: That's right, Cools three point game win. Yeah, the Roses

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Speaker 2: Both great shots, both former Wolves players. That's right. Everybody's happy,

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Speaker 4: Here, everybody's even James.

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Speaker 2: Borbat all right, next one. More impressive in their return

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Speaker 2: and I'm not sure there's a wrong answer, but more

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Speaker 3: Well, Gordon Hayward really just had a glorified practice run.

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Speaker 3: he's so springy. It feels like every time he jumps up,

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, please his land safely.

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Speaker 1: It's like Wastbrook was like that when he was young.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Moran twenty six points, seven assists, twenty nine minutes,

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Speaker 2: totally you know, quieted the Chase Center crowd. He is

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Speaker 2: he makes another team in the league, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: like the borderline must watch. I know the Grizes only

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Speaker 2: I'll watch them. I'll tell you what. I am watching.

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Speaker 3: Grizzlies games and he's not playing office show.

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Speaker 4: Gordon Hayward looked like Gordon Hayward. He had the patent,

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Speaker 4: years ago. But John Morant just steals the show. My god.

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Speaker 4: You know you can watch that ball fake behind the

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Speaker 4: They both move and the cameraman, I mean, all three

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Speaker 4: that one. He's doing some special stuff. He had that

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Speaker 4: But you can just chill Lee man, He'll be okay.

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Speaker 4: He's a tough kid. He can't pronounce his name.

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Speaker 3: I get my kids' names confused exactly.

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Speaker 2: watching them punk the Calves, who are going to be

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Speaker 2: the all stars on this team because Kemba's a lock.

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Speaker 4: Which I think is in play, they'll get a second.

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Speaker 2: hell is it? Because Hayward was balling out obviously before

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Speaker 2: the injury. Now he's back, that's good, but he missed

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Speaker 2: a month of time.

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Speaker 4: I can't beat Gordon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's still got time though he might.

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Speaker 4: Have time missed a month Versus other guys though on

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Speaker 4: that team, like Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown have to

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right. So Tatum averaging you know, twenty one

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Speaker 1: Would probably relead Jalen as well. And if you were

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Speaker 1: He's been better from the field, better from three. He

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Speaker 1: are they going to get two?

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Speaker 3: It's funny because the Bucks probably don't get to themselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Middleton is not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've led, so I don't think he's he's getting

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Speaker 4: It's hard not to give them a second one. But

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Speaker 3: No, the Celtics could end up with three just looking

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Speaker 4: Ten Bam bam could make it from the heat.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Celtics are making three. Rats.

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Speaker 3: How many of the Raptors getting just one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one Indiana zero zero to one.

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Speaker 2: That's right, we're getting up there. Fun question, let's hear

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Speaker 2: no dunk sink. I mean, if how many Celtics are

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Speaker 2: mean we always joked. I think it was a Ben

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Speaker 2: I Jaylen Brown makes before him, but I think he's

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Speaker 2: playing unbelievable bast wall right now for them all right,

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Speaker 2: next one here, guys, Booker Uber, Junior Rubio. They helped

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Speaker 2: oh nine, despite car Anthony Town scoring thirty three, grabbing fifteen,

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Speaker 2: another early season, So start guys more likely to turn

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Speaker 3: Sticking with the Jazz. I have a little more faith

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Speaker 2: Ever make your trip to Wiggins Island? Did you come

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Speaker 1: Heading There was a lot of optimism around the Timberwolves.

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Speaker 4: They lost a lot of heartbreakers. I just think it

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Speaker 4: I mean, have somebody who gives him the ball more

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00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,160
Speaker 4: often than Jeff Tigue just seems to be I mean,

434
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,159
Speaker 4: he has good games scoring the ball, but they're just

435
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 4: not on the same page the way. On the other

436
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 4: side of the floor, the Rubio Devin Booker, Aaron Bains

437
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 4: little trifecta Is and Kelly Eubrey as well. I mean,

438
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 4: they're they're just on the same page, and this Wolves

439
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 4: team just can't fight through. Yeah. I was optimistic last

440
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 4: month too, but I'm leaning the other directions. Just it's

441
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 4: time to to get a more cohesive unit out there.

442
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 2: Which interesting about this question is they played tomorrow night,

443
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 2: the Jazz and the Wolves in Minnesota. We're gonna find

444
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 2: out right away. Who was ready to turn this thing around.

445
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, all the stuff you guys are staying about

446
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: the Wolves, I sort of agree with it. You do

447
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 2: look at them and go, where is how is it

448
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 2: going to get better without making some maybe some drastic changes,

449
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 2: you know, moving on from fatigue. I mean I'm sure

450
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: maybe they're still even trying to move on from Wigans

451
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 2: just switching it up, hoping a guy like Culver or

452
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 2: Josh like sort of explodes here suddenly, which you know,

453
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 2: pretty unlikely I think, being so early in their careers.

454
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 2: But Jazz too, man, this was this was like one

455
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 2: I was tweeting about it last night, Like I was like,

456
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,199
Speaker 2: I got caught up in all these game winners going on,

457
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: and this one started a little bit later the OKAC

458
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 2: Jazz game and I was like, oh my god, okay

459
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 2: see is punking them? Like they were up like fifteen

460
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 2: twenty points. Obviously went on to the big win. The

461
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 2: fourteen point win wasn't really even that close. Jazz shot

462
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 2: forty percent from the field again, and the third quarter

463
00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: was brutal. Couldn't buy a bucket struder. That bench dominated

464
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 2: the Jazz reserves. We keep saying like they're a deep team.

465
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 2: They got a lot of pieces. Yeah, no commonly, but

466
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 2: like forty five to twenty three for okay see and

467
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: okay see, he's getting to going here. I mean, I

468
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: know we haven't talked about them a lot. I think

469
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: they're doing what a lot a lot of people, a

470
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: lot of pundits definitely in the presems like I don't

471
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,959
Speaker 2: know if this team's gonna be that bad. You got

472
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: Chris Paul yet, Collin? Are you got Adams? They might

473
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: be good. I mean they might not be like you know,

474
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: playing a for for lottery ping pong balls here, which

475
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: is turning out to what it is. They're like just

476
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 2: a solid, solid team. So yeah, the Jazz got've done

477
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: it before. They can do it again, but it's got

478
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 2: to start happening. Siting it rather than later. Luckily for them.

479
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: It's this weird Western Conference this year where it's like,

480
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: you know, they're just this bunch of teams, Okay, see Phoenix, Minnesota, Utah, Portland,

481
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: San Antonio. They're all in the same club. Like no

482
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 2: one's pulling away. It's not like a Sacramento, like no

483
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: one's out of it, you know. So it's that's good

484
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: for obviously the Blazers and the Jazz and your Spurs

485
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 2: and even all those other teams, Like you're right there.

486
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Speaker 4: And they're still than the Western Conference. There's still a

487
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: couple of games up on that bunch of teams that

488
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 4: you just mentioned their skeets.

489
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: Right, But we thought they might be at the top

490
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: of the Western.

491
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there was definitely more expectations on that end.

492
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 4: But they're really they're behind the Clippers, Denver, Houston, and

493
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 4: Dallas the surprise team of that bunch. But yeah, they're

494
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: only a couple of games back. But you don't expect

495
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 4: them to lose like the way they lost, Yes straight

496
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 4: that was the first loss where they stunk on the

497
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Speaker 4: offensive end. They stunk on the defensive end, like very

498
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: very badly in the same game. You know, they lost

499
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Speaker 4: to the Lakers. That's respectable. I mean that that was

500
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: a quote unquote bad loss. They lost to the Raptors.

501
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 4: They lost. You know, they had bad road games, but

502
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: you know at home, this was this was a This

503
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: was way way bigger discrepancy than the fourteen points would indicate.

504
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: Final What you got is a fun one, yeah, honess.

505
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: Thirty two points fifteen boards led the Bucks to their

506
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Speaker 2: fifteenth straight victory, one ten one to one over the

507
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: Magic fifteen game winning streak, longest from Milwaukee since a

508
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: sixteen game run that spanned two seasons in seventy three.

509
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Speaker 3: I hate doesn't count, does it?

510
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 2: Gotta hate that?

511
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: One streak one season?

512
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: One streak one season?

513
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: Thank you got something caught my throat? Here? Free the pickle?

514
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 4: Where the pickles at?

515
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: You got a pickle stuck in my throat?

516
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: Right?

517
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: That was a classic of the starter's bit. One streak

518
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: one season. We're trying to trying to advocate for that

519
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 4: when there are all these stats were going around that

520
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 4: you can have a winning streak over two seasons. Then

521
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: a pickle showed up on our set. That's why we're

522
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 4: talking picking weird.

523
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Speaker 3: Uh.

524
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Speaker 2: The question I had for you guys, with the Bucks

525
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 2: winning fifteen straight. The Bucks winning streak still going by Christmas?

526
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 2: Whoa or not a chance? What you got that thing's

527
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: still going by Christmas? Or not a chance? You got

528
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: to pick one?

529
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Speaker 3: That would be twenty two straight if they get to Christmas.

530
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: There's seven games full of them between now and then.

531
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Speaker 3: Two of them are tough. They gonna win the other five.

532
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so let me take it through it. Yeah,

533
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: they host the Pelicans on Wednesday. That then they're in

534
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: Memphis on Friday. Then it's a back to back situation.

535
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: They got to go back home to host.

536
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: The Calves by b ye.

537
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: So that's a win. Then it gets tough Monday home

538
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: to the Mavericks and then Thursday home to the Lakers.

539
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: So both at home.

540
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 4: Let's circle that, baby. Yeah, they got to get through Dallas,

541
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: that's a that's tough one. But Lakers Thursday night next

542
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: Thursday on TNT. Yeah, that's number twenty for them, These

543
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 4: two teams that are tied at twenty one and three,

544
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 4: the top of the NBA period. Yeah, that's let's let's

545
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: get a little excited for that before Christmas. We make

546
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: a daily show here. Let's yeah, I do's not look

547
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 4: forward to Christmas.

548
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: If they make it through those, they would finish with

549
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: a weekend back to back in MSG versus the Knicks

550
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: and then at home to the Pacers, and then they

551
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: have that December twenty fifth game against Hey, come on,

552
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: it'd be pretty cool come Christmas if the Bucks, especially

553
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: oh God, talking to Dwayner, if the Bucks were still

554
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: had the story going come Christmas to go into Philly,

555
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: who would maybe potentially still have their home winning streat going.

556
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: Without looking at their schedule, I don't know who they

557
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: got coming into their barn, but man, that'd be pretty badass.

558
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: But are they are rolling? Like this was another one?

559
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: Like it's a nine point finish, you know, lead win.

560
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: Excuse me that they got over the magic. It wasn't

561
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: that close. It was. It was a classic punking a team.

562
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: They make a late fourth quarter run and then you're fine.

563
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: You just do enough to get the way and says

564
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna take this game out of your hands and.

565
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: Just go and Middleton got going. It is cool. I

566
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: saw in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. It's got to be

567
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: pretty awesome, pretty surreal, I guess, winning fifteenth straight games

568
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: for guys like Middleton, Giannis and il Yasova, even because

569
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 2: they were on the Bucks when they went fifteen and

570
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: sixty seven in the thirteen fourteenth season. So that team

571
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: won their fifteenth game on April eleventh of that year,

572
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: and here they are winning fifteenth straight and in pretty

573
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: dominant fashion.

574
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: I think that I dropped to the Lakers.

575
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: You think they do? Yeah, okay, I would probably say

576
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: not a chance that it's still going by Christmas. Yeah,

577
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: they could even lose one of those to you know,

578
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: the nobody's I mean that happens.

579
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: Well, Pacers December twenty second, that could be a tough one.

580
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: They're coming home. They just they beat the Knicks by

581
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: fifty points and they're like, oh, this will be easy.

582
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: We're just playing the Pacers. They just sleep through it.

583
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm neither.

584
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm neither. The odds are it'll be broken. I imagine

585
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: Lebron will get up for a game saying, hey, I'm

586
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: gonna stop you from getting a twenty game winning streak.

587
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: I've had a twenty seven game winning streak that was

588
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: broken on TNT. Oh yeah, the polls right, Yeah, exactly right.

589
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: But so I can see him taking pride in that game.

590
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: But it's also good for the Bucks that their hardest

591
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: games are going to be at home. So yeah, you

592
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: would think it's going to be broken, but there's a

593
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: chance it's still going till Christmas.

594
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: So give me the Bucks.

595
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 4: Why not.

596
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: I love a winning streak.

597
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're going into Philly on Christmas Day, as he said, Skeets,

598
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: who are unbeaten this season to this point at home,

599
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: twelfth straight at home. If you extend it to last season,

600
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 4: they've won thirteen straight at home and the last team

601
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: that they lost to at home the Milwaukee Bucks last

602
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 4: April the fourth.

603
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to Embi and Simmons versus Jannis on

604
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: Christmas Day. That'll be great because they had a pretty.

605
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: Good one of the earlier starts thirty.

606
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: When he when he he dunked on Ben Simmons last

607
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: year and he's just a boy or something. He said

608
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: like that, that's what you want on Christmas Day?

609
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: The boy.

610
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, the boy. Let's that quote said said Simmons by

611
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 4: something like you know you're just a boy. Yeah, let's

612
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 4: see what he says. He said, and baby.

613
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 3: Baby, baby boy, baby baby boy.

614
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Shout out to Tyrese. One thing is for sure Cream

615
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: Team is better than the Dream Team Bucks or four

616
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: and oh in the Cream City jerseys. They ain't lost yet. Wow,

617
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: keep it creamy. They ain't softies as Michael Lee says

618
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: they are. They're straight blasting guys.

619
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: It's a real bangaroo.

620
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: That's amazing. It's amazing, you know.

621
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry to take it away from It's.

622
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: Never been about the jerseys.

623
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter cream and teams in the Cream Cities.

624
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: Cream Team better than the Dream Team, Man better than

625
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: the Meme team.

626
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: Keep going.

627
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 2: That's all I got. All right, that's a fun what

628
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: you got. Let's hear from you guys on Twitter. Chime

629
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: in with your answers. Got some news though, here guys.

630
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: The NBA announced yesterday that Commissioner Adam Silver denied the

631
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: Rockets protest of their one thirty five one thirty three

632
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: loss to the Spurs on December third, the money quote.

633
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: While agreeing that the referees misapplied the rules, Commissioner Silver

634
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: determined that the Rockets had sufficient time to overcome the

635
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: year during the remainder of the fourth quarter and two

636
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: subsequent overtime periods. I will add, in addition to the

637
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: league announced that it disciplined all three referees from the

638
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: game for misapplying the coaches challenge. Remember we were talking

639
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: about that when this happened. But anyway, what's your what

640
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on how the NBA handled this mess,

641
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: which is what it was, and maybe even off off

642
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: of that sort of what is the best action to

643
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: make sure there's something like this doesn't happen a yet.

644
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: I think they did the right thing. I think Adam

645
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: Silva took the right approach here because no one realistically

646
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: thought they were going to replay the game. They certainly

647
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: weren't going to hand the Rockets the victory. And he

648
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: worded it right.

649
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: He would He basically said, you blew it.

650
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: He basically said lol. But he couldn't really send that

651
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: to the Rockets instead. Listen, you guys had plenty of

652
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: chances it was a miscall. We acknowledge that we've disciplined

653
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 3: the referees. Bad luck is essentially, and that's the right approach,

654
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: that's the right result and the right That is.

655
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: The discipline for the referees.

656
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what is it?

657
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: Fine?

658
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: Fine?

659
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: Probably suspension, Yeah, maybe you're given like a seven day

660
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: break or something like that. You don't get the raffle

661
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: playoff game, I mean other things.

662
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: His comments about the referees being disciplined, Hey had, like,

663
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: I mean, pretty classy thing to say. He was like,

664
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: he felt bad for them, might in a weird way

665
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: of getting disciplined. He's like, I don't know, they didn't.

666
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: Didn't feel bad.

667
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: No, it's what he said, and that's what he said.

668
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: He's just trying to get the calls for the next game.

669
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is the right this is the

670
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: right decision, Kay of the NBA. I would have liked

671
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: them to replay it, but that's just because I'm never

672
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: going to side with the referee. The best action to

673
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: make sure this doesn't happen again. When a ball goes

674
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: through the hoop count at its points, no matter if

675
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: you have to go back and review it or not.

676
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: It shouldn't go through the hoop. It counts.

677
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: It shouldn't require a coach's chess. I mean, we talked

678
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: about it when it happened. To me. It's very similar

679
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: to during a stoppage when we go back and look

680
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: at a guy who was near the three point line

681
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: and we try and determined was he on the three

682
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: point line? Was it a two or three? And then

683
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: we just determine it and then you know, a minute

684
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: or two later, it's corrected if it needs to be.

685
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: There's no reason this couldn't have happened in this instance

686
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: to me. To me, it's very very similar, same logic,

687
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: and just do that.

688
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: You have to call it. If you're going to get

689
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: it reviewed within the rules, you have to call it goaltending, right,

690
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: I mean, that's how you review a call like that.

691
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: If you remember Kendrick Perkins in twenty twelve, he went

692
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: through the hoop and goaltended a ball, but they didn't

693
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: call it anything. And then they basically changed the rule

694
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: to Okay, if we call it goaltending, then we can

695
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: go look at it. So that's what they had to do.

696
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: If you're gonna play this rules game and then you

697
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: can go look at it, just whistle it and say, okay,

698
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: it's goaltending, just so we can go look at it.

699
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: They learned, they learned from that Kendrick Perkins situation that

700
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: was a playoff game. If you do remember in his

701
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: okay see days, Oh.

702
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: You imagine this had happened in the playoffs, Oh my god,

703
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: Like you know, a good thing. It was in an

704
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: early December game. I know it still sucks for Rockets

705
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: fans and they're still upset because they're like, oh, we

706
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: would have won blah blah blah, but yeah, oh thank

707
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: god it wasn't then, or or I mean, I look,

708
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: it could still of course, as we talked about, it

709
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: could determine where the Rockets fall, you know, theoretically and

710
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: in the in the playoff standings, and whether they have

711
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: home court advantage or not. So it means something. Don't

712
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: get me wrong, but I think the NBA handled as

713
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: well as they could. But again, I just don't get

714
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: just add to the rules. Hey, there was confusion. We

715
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: didn't know what was going on. James Harden's chasing after

716
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: the ball, the mop guy barely got out of the way.

717
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: Everything's gone happening, everything's happening, and just go well we scored, Like, okay,

718
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: there's going the other way. It's not it's Spurs ball. Well,

719
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: they can be like, we scored that basket, look at that.

720
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: Why not?

721
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: Okay, now the Caucuses, But where do you draw the line.

722
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: I draw the line when they go we put the

723
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: ball in the basket.

724
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 4: Okay, So hold on, hold on, it's there's four minutes

725
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: left in the second quarter or something happens. Oh, got

726
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: you gotta look at that. You gotta look at that.

727
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 4: You gotta look at that.

728
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, But every instance, I'm not saying stop playing.

729
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: Go up to look at everything. Yes, I mean other

730
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: things to do.

731
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't, he does.

732
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: He has nothing else to do. He's not doing anything

733
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: there except standing double teapot looking at monitors. This is

734
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: his job. So just go let's go to New Jersey

735
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: during the next time out and we'll just determine whether

736
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: it was a basket or not.

737
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: That Does I do that often on baskets at the

738
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: end of the quarter or yes, they do it all

739
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: the time.

740
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: If it went in and no one's upset by that,

741
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: it's like, keeps the game going, and you correct the

742
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 2: very what should be a pretty obvious call. And if

743
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: some times it's a weird one, like it was with

744
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: that thing flipping out, I don't know what's wrong with.

745
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 4: That, And I think you got a dray line somewhere.

746
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: That's right.

747
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: You can't look at everything.

748
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I'm not saying look at everything, but

749
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: this is not happening often I guess my.

750
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: Point through the hoop, but you can you can essentially say, uh,

751
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, there's something wild happens at the end

752
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: of the game, two minutes left. You're just gonna have

753
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: everybody up in arms.

754
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: At The big one from last season was when Kevin

755
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: Durant was like two feet out of bounds and he

756
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: scooped the ball in and the Warriors scored. But the

757
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: Rockets actually went on to win that game because James

758
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: Harden hit that crazy three, but Durant was like both

759
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: both feed out and the Warriors scored on that play.

760
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: So in that instance, I mean again, the referees were

761
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: right there as well. That was basically just ignored, like

762
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: the right Warriors didn't protest that loss, even though of

763
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: course they scored off the plate, you know what I mean.

764
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: But but but that that, I think that's what you're

765
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: sort of talking about.

766
00:33:59,720 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: Though.

767
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: You don't want that everything to be challenged like that

768
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: if it doesn't get cold.

769
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: I just don't want every single person sitting on their

770
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: couch basically essentially saying, God, why aren't they looking at that?

771
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 4: Why aren't they looking at that? Why aren't they looking

772
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: at that? Caucus? They gotta look at that. Everybody's got

773
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: to look at that. And then you got ten players

774
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: and fifteen coaches with their hands up in the air.

775
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: You gotta look at that.

776
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 4: Look Seecucas, you gotta look at that. And that's all

777
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: we're talking about. Just let it go. Just just let

778
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: the referees do their job. Unfortunately, they're gonna make big booboos.

779
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I was why I was against

780
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: the coach's challenge from day one. Is so stupid. I

781
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: hope it doesn't stay. I really does that. They might.

782
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 2: They might try and like, hey, hey we're learning, we're tweaking.

783
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: I might keep it. It's possible now I thought it was.

784
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: I was joking, like put it in memoriam right away.

785
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: Now I'm not convinced. They're like, they might try and

786
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: give it another year.

787
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: It's conversations, No doubt it's doing that.

788
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

789
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: So are untucked jerseys more untucked jerseys talk? Last night?

790
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: I saw Pascal Siakam go to the line with his

791
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: jersey untalked against the balls. Where are yet with that one?

792
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: Chris Paul like to have you around. Hey, hey, that

793
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: guy's trying to show this jersey untucked about to get

794
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: the ball to the ball.

795
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: Why don't they just why don't we just make like

796
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: crop top jerseys so it can never be untucked?

797
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: Crop tops?

798
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: Oh, just making onesies?

799
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, one or the other.

800
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: Don't give him the option. Who's tucked in? Today? You

801
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: guys talked?

802
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: Uh, No, I and I sometimes will. I'm wearing a sweater.

803
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: I'll sometimes do the T shirt underneath a I'll sometimes

804
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: do a tuck. But it was pretty warm out today.

805
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: It's balmy here in Ala, even though it's rainy. Made

806
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: that breeze, Yeah, exactly, exactly all right. Next one, guys,

807
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard is going to be presented with his championship

808
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: ring in a special pregame ceremony on Wednesday night. That

809
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: is happening tomorrow, guys. The Raptors are asking fans to

810
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: be in their seats by six forty five pm Eastern time.

811
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: All right, so grab your pizza, pizza, grab your Timmy hose,

812
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: and get to your seat by six forty five.

813
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: I got tim Hortons and yeah, they I've had it.

814
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they did. They did it least when I

815
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: was there. How I got a couple questions with this,

816
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: I'd mean, first off, how do you expec Kawhi to

817
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: be received on Wednesday night before the game? I am

818
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: assuming everybody thinks he's gonna get quite the standing ovation. Yeah, yeah,

819
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah.

820
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna cheer them and then they should

821
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: boo him as soon as the game starts, but they

822
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: should celebrate the championship, wallet's championship celebration time and then

823
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: remember that he left your team and boom like crazy

824
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: once they start playing against each other.

825
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

826
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're doing this pre game. Yeah, I assume

827
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: the Fairweather fans enter the arena seven seven thirty even so,

828
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: I think by doing this, by pushing it forward, it's

829
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: just gonna be more hardcore fans than not hardcore fans.

830
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: And the hardcore fans have been through the you know,

831
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: in general, the Chris Childs slash Vince Carter trading for

832
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 4: the Williams brothers who aren't brothers, the Andrea Barniani situation.

833
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 4: You know, like the real fans that appreciate a championship

834
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: banner going up beside Tim Horton's banner up in Scotia

835
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: Bank Arena. So yeah, they're gonna be cheering. I think

836
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: by pushing it forward, you're gonna get more cheering than

837
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 4: you would have if if there would have been some

838
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: weirdos at seven thirty seven forty five eight o'clock, if

839
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 4: they did it mid game. That being said, I think

840
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: they've eliminated the possibility of a video tribute in the game.

841
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 4: I think all you're getting is pregame and that's it.

842
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: And I think they've also that that's a good thing

843
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: to to dance around as well. They didn't want to

844
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: give Kawhi Leonard a video tribute. I don't think in

845
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 4: game just I mean, they appreciate the guy obviously, but

846
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 4: this is a nice way to get around that.

847
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: But you think there will be one in the presearch, Yeah, Yeah,

848
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some awesome you know montage.

849
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: You're seeing it.

850
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're seeing the balance, You're seeing him going crazy.

851
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: And the hardcore are gonna cheer that. I don't. I

852
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: think there may be, you know, one weirdo who gets

853
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: shushed because he's booing, but not not too many.

854
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: It's said the Williams brothers aren't brothers. Will the Setting

855
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: brothers be there. They are brothers, they're hardcorees. They'll be

856
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: there six forty five.

857
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: They're hardcore nine oh five ers. Though they don't want

858
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: they don't want to come into the big city. You know,

859
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: they'll probably be a big, big setting will probably be there.

860
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: Not that he's big, Uh, he's more muscular too, great. Yeah,

861
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: he's got a virtual trainer.

862
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a peloton like a peloton guy.

863
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not for biking. But a guy he sees

864
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: on his computer and they talk.

865
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: I think I think that's he's disciplined too, because I

866
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: went out from Uh, I went out for lunch with

867
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: him when I was up there, when I was exiled

868
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: in Canada. That guy wouldn't even have a beer with

869
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: me at lunch, you know, committed to to his health.

870
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: Maybe a solid what Maybe he just doesn't want to

871
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: have a bee with you.

872
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: Considerable possibilities yea, I went out of my way, thank

873
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 2: you very much. I went up Tolington to see that guy.

874
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, I A, I don't want to have

875
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: one with you.

876
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: No one's asking you, well you drink, but the actually

877
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: well Kawhi addressed the crowd.

878
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: I think you will, but very brief.

879
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: See, I thought I was asking this on Twitter last

880
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: night and some people, I think maybe wisely, were like

881
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: they're not going to give him a mic. He's an

882
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: opposing place, which I was like, I was like, yeah,

883
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: that's fair.

884
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 3: I mean, that's pretty yeah. But but under the circumstances

885
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: of this whole presentation, I think that he would be

886
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 3: given the mic to see you and it'll literally be

887
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: Toronto Thanks. Yeah, because because he you know, he said

888
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: he wants to just wave.

889
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: He just waved for all you like a piece wave.

890
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think Kawhi has sort of said, you know,

891
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: he's there to win the game for the Clippers. He

892
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: will acknowledge what happened, and I think that's him. I

893
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: can't imagine he's going to go up for us.

894
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: So if he takes the mic, what's the over? Under?

895
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: On words spoken? What do you want to say? Let's

896
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: make a bet eight you would have a beer with

897
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: me if I were all right, all right, and you

898
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: have a beer with me if I lose. Okay, let's

899
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: say that eight and a half.

900
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: Okay, eight and a half, eight and a half words, Okay,

901
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: I'll take the over.

902
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: Ok you got the under, oh way under.

903
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: He's going to say six words exactly, Okay, what did do?

904
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: Baby?

905
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: Crowd's going crazy? That's four words? Thank you six peace wives?

906
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: Do they do? They ask him pregame, Hey, do you

907
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 4: want to talk? Like do the before the whole ceremony?

908
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: Do you want the mic? Probably who gives them?

909
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: I guess Massai will give him the ring, right? Probably don't?

910
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

911
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: Because uh, or like we'll all like, look, will all

912
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: the raptors come out?

913
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

914
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 2: I mean they could.

915
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll get a nakel find one of those nasemens.

916
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 4: Jack whoever?

917
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: I want to be like when, Ah, when a baseball

918
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: player hits the home run and he comes to the

919
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: dug out and they jump over him like that, they

920
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: sort of act cool and then all of a sudden

921
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: they got crazy. I think they'll do that too.

922
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: Cool.

923
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: Well, I think the raps might come out while he

924
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: gets it to to think them. Yeah, who knows, can't wait.

925
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: That's on Wednesday night. You guys want to talk coaches?

926
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: Do you want me to save this?

927
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: Save it?

928
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just save it. Let's save it, well, save

929
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: it for beach Step and we'll get it in tomorrow.

930
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of games on tonight. Actually, let's

931
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: get to tweet of the night.

932
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 4: Tweet of the night. Wow, I've got two all.

933
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: Right, first one, pretty simple. The Sacramento Kings after the

934
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: abelitza game winner protest. That hashtag Kings FTW, that's good, Gaddy,

935
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: that's good. It was a rough day for the Rockets,

936
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: obviously getting denied on the protests and then giving up

937
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: the game winning three. That's good, it's good tweet Kings.

938
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: One of the best Twitter accounts NBA Twitter accounts in

939
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: the game. No doubt they're droppings.

940
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: I know we have likes on Twitter, but I wish

941
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: there was a GT button that just meant good tweet.

942
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Get that a GT good.

943
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: Tweet, good tweet. So I had to show that a

944
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: little bit of love. But I had something sort of

945
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: in the chamber a little earlier in the night that

946
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: I liked that I wanted to hear you guys thoughts

947
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: about Kevin Pelton the machine. At k Pelton, he shared

948
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: a pick of some murals going up in the Seattle area.

949
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: I guess Mariner's legend Edgar Martinez and was getting a mural.

950
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: And then there was Sonic's legend Jack Sikma going up.

951
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: It looked really cool. Shared this photo well at JH

952
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: at jay Ayh JH. He tweeted to Pelton love to

953
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: see Debt Left shrimp up there as well, as he

954
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: should be a Hall of Famer by now, so Pelton

955
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: wrote back, I hadn't really thought about that for whatever reason.

956
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: Definitely a better NBA player than many of the international

957
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: players who have made the Hall, but I guess the

958
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: lack of major impact in international playworks against him. Well,

959
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: J made his case. I thought this was interesting. Debt

960
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: Left should definitely be in, wrote Jay. Arguably the first

961
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: euro to have major impact in the NBA. He predated

962
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 2: the first wave of the euro invasion by five years.

963
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: He almost gets forgotten or penalized for going to college

964
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: in the US. I think he's on PR with Kukoach

965
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: same PR in the NBA as Tony. He went on

966
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: to say, if Debt Left stayed over in Europe until

967
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: his mid twenties, I'm sure he would have been one

968
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: of the premier players in Europe, maybe won a few

969
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: Euro titles like Tony did. Tony did a crew more

970
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: national team medals in Debt Left, but he also had

971
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: a much better team, better teammates.

972
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: Tony's not in the Hall of Fame though he is

973
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen.

974
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: I thought he went in cou Coach. Yeah, he didn't know.

975
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he went in as an international.

976
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: One hundred percent thought he went in twenty seventeen as

977
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: an international player. Could be wrong.

978
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: Somebody was in the FOBA Hall of Fame. Ooh, that's

979
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: what I'm misteaking, which honestly, maybe put Debt left Shrimp

980
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: in there, even though you're saying he doesn't have the

981
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: the FOBA bona fides. But I mean the comparison between

982
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: cou Coach and Shremp is pretty much perfect. They're both

983
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: six men, they both made some All Star teams. Obviously

984
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Kuk Coach has the titles. Yeah, I mean, surely you

985
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: can make a case for Debt Left Shremp.

986
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so, and just to confirm there, Tony in the

987
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: FOBA basketball, I guess that's not different.

988
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: Thing is, yeah, but he's not in the Naismith.

989
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 4: No, Tremp definitely is penalized in terms of getting into

990
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame because he played college in the US.

991
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, like if you look at he played

992
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: over eleven hundred games in the NBA fourteen six and three. Okay, solid,

993
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: definitely solid shooting splits though amazing forty nine thirty eight

994
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: and eighty over his career. That's incredible. He made an

995
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: All NBA team, three All Star selections, two times, six

996
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Man of the Year. I yeah, I just think it

997
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: was a fun tweet.

998
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: I guess Germany never really did anything crazy on the

999
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: international scene.

1000
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: And that's why I like because Tony was playing for

1001
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: Yugoslavia and then Croatia. Is that right to have that, right? Yeah? Right, Yeah,

1002
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: obviously had much more success, which is what Jay said.

1003
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: Interesting thought experiment there. I love dealt Left Trump.

1004
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's maybe like a pre stretch for kind

1005
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: of guy, you know. Yeah, thirty years basically big time.

1006
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: George carl with those with those Seattle SuperSonics teams, those

1007
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: were awesome.

1008
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd be hitting twenty eight twenty nine foot bombs

1009
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: game winners if dellt Left was playing.

1010
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: To his game.

1011
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him, he ended up on like the second

1012
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: best team kind of every single place he ended up on,

1013
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, like he played on the Pacers when they

1014
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: were going up against the balls. He played on the

1015
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: Sonics and they ended up having to go against the balls.

1016
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: He was on the Blazers when they ran into the Lakers.

1017
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: He was just always on a very good team. Who

1018
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: wasn't the greatest team.

1019
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, if those teams won two three of those teams

1020
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: he was on, you know, get over the hump, maybe

1021
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: win a title, then I think he's remembered a little

1022
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: differently probably, So Yeah.

1023
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: It's interesting. I'm just looking at Sarunas marshallonas who is

1024
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: in the Naysmith Hall of Fame and a shorter NBA

1025
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: career because he spent most of his time over there

1026
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: in Europe. But certainly debtlifts numbers and accolades in the

1027
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: NBA out weigh what Marshall Oonnists did but Marshal Arns did.

1028
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: He did a lot in Europe. But interesting little comparison there.

1029
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: Great tweet from j H and Pelton. Let's get to

1030
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: pick them results.

1031
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Speaker 2: I tried to convince you, he said, swerve. Nana said,

1055
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: just swerve on everybody you're rolling in December. But nope, nope,

1056
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: you took the apps. We all took their apps to cover.

1057
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: They won. The game doesn't matter Classic Bulls.

1058
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: If you can get the Bulls that take a lead

1059
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: on you in the fourth quarner, you're taking home that win. Yeah,

1060
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: it seems counterintuitive, but it works every time.

1061
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: Marcusolv coming up a huge down the stretch defensively and

1062
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: the Raps. Yeah, got the win, but definitely didn't cover.

1063
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: They had to win by six. So Bulls get the

1064
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: money win, the pick them win. So that's a loss

1065
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: for everybody. I think it's the first time this season

1066
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: all four of us incorrectly guess the game, guess the line,

1067
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: because I don't think we've had this situation yet.

1068
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: We really have the full man anyway.

1069
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had it, maybe one or two wins as

1070
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 2: a four man. But yeah, yeah, first time we all lost.

1071
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: So Lea's four and two, tray three and three tasks

1072
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: and myself two and four here tonight's game.

1073
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: Not a lot on No, we may have another four

1074
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 4: man tonight. There's a four game schedule. The best one

1075
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: definitely the Nuggets at the Sixers, two heavyweights West meeting

1076
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 4: East Eastern Conference. Unbeaten record for the Philadelphia seven six

1077
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: a home record, I should say on the line here

1078
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Speaker 4: they're twelve and zero at home. Denver comes to visit

1079
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Speaker 4: and the Sixers are favored by four and a half points.

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Speaker 4: So who this baby on TNT.

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Speaker 2: So this is the Nuggets fourth game right on the

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Speaker 2: road of their road trip. I think it was their

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Speaker 2: final game on this little road trip or not little.

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Speaker 3: Yeah to New York Boston, Damn damp, damn.

1085
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Speaker 4: I got they lost to in a row. They lost

1086
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Speaker 4: to in a row. But I'm taking Philly anyway.

1087
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm taking Philly at home Denver not impressive, lightly, Trey.

1088
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Speaker 4: I'm with the boys. Give me the Sixers.

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Speaker 1: They've been doing good at home. I would love to

1090
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Speaker 1: see Nicola jokicch and a crop top though.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you that elsewre just so we don't

1092
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: all have the same team again. I'll take the Nugs.

1093
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Speaker 2: You know they can lose it. I mean, look, they

1094
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: lost to the Nets by same thing. Could have happen

1095
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Speaker 2: here Philly, man, Yeah, we just saw it happen with

1096
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: the Bulls were crying out loud.

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Speaker 4: It's like we're at MGM Resorts right now making our picks.

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Speaker 2: All right, So the three of you guys have Philly

1099
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Speaker 2: to win by five or more and I've got the

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Speaker 2: Nuggets to cover, all right. That's it for Today's Tuesday show,

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