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Speaker 1: Ah gotta know Fox Sports Radio. iHeartRadio. App Welcome, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. Here's what I want to do. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this pod. One, it's gonna be good,

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Speaker 1: don't worry. Two, we can do a little something different

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Speaker 1: than being on the radio. And I do want to

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Speaker 1: talk about Mike Gundy as the Cowboys go into Eugene

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Speaker 1: and they get their fucking asses kicked. Right, There's just

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Speaker 1: there's no description you can use other than like all

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Speaker 1: of them have curse words. They did like they'll be

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Speaker 1: dudes that like they got their dicks rubbed in the dirt,

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Speaker 1: which I don't really know why that's a negative thing,

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Speaker 1: but it is an expression in parts of the South

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Speaker 1: that I'm aware of. Anyway, sixty nine to three is

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Speaker 1: a fucking ass kicking, and it wasn't that close. So

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of factors. First thing in terrible fucking scheduling. Now,

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Speaker 1: it was made a long time ago, back when Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: State was among College Football League and Oregon was a

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Speaker 1: little bit lost in some coaching turnover. Now Oregon under

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Speaker 1: Dan Lanning is elite, elite, but they've also been able

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Speaker 1: to separate themselves financially right, which is what Mike Gundy

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Speaker 1: pointed out. And look, I think Oklahoma State, I was told,

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Speaker 1: probably spent thirteen fourteen million dollars on their roster, and

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that at minimum, at minimum Oregan spent twenty

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Speaker 1: to twenty five on their roster. So there's a disparity.

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Speaker 1: But the bigger disparity is not just in the talent.

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Speaker 1: It's when you go from not having money and you

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Speaker 1: change staffs. Here's the FETI complete. That's the fatal flaw.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's what feeda complete means. The fatal flaw

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Speaker 1: is you're just going out hodgepodge recruiting, trying to find

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Speaker 1: players and trying to get the right value. Ooh, I

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Speaker 1: like him. He's pretty good. How much does he cost? Well,

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Speaker 1: he costs one hundred and fifty thousand. We need guys

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Speaker 1: at one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. If you go

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Speaker 1: after it that way in the portal and you put

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Speaker 1: together a whole new staff and you recruit to that

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Speaker 1: whole new staff, you have no identity. Right, Dan Lanning

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Speaker 1: knows how he wants to play on defense, He is

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Speaker 1: an no outstanding offensive coordinator and they know what they're

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Speaker 1: looking for, so they're not just spending money. They're spending

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Speaker 1: money on guys that fit who they want and what

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Speaker 1: they want. So they're ahead in how much they're spending,

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Speaker 1: so they have a better level of athlete. They're ahead

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Speaker 1: in they've been doing it this way for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years, so they have a better feel for the

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Speaker 1: market and they have an identity that they're able to

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Speaker 1: recruit too. And then Oklahoma State's not good enough at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but their starting quarterback is hurt. It's the first true

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Speaker 1: road game, is way too hard, a game you should

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Speaker 1: never fucking play in your schedule. And they got their ask.

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Speaker 1: And then the last part is why aren't guys like fighting,

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Speaker 1: like fighting fighting, Well, if you just showed up at

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Speaker 1: a school a month and a half ago, and you

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Speaker 1: only showed up for a check, you don't have the

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Speaker 1: built in equity in a program where you're like, I

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Speaker 1: ain't fucking losing sixty nine to three. So I do

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Speaker 1: think that Oklahoma State has a window to succeed under

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Speaker 1: Gundhy in this city because they're also recruiting all the

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Speaker 1: high level State of Oklahoma players and you'll keep those

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Speaker 1: guys and they'll cost you less. You can build, but

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Speaker 1: it takes time. And I also think he has time

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Speaker 1: just because it costs too much money to buy him

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Speaker 1: you do, you're gonna set Oklahoma State back two or

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Speaker 1: three years anyway, because now you don't have any money

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Speaker 1: for any players or a new staff. But the big

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Speaker 1: mistake is when you go in for the first time ever,

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Speaker 1: you spend money in the portal. You got to do

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Speaker 1: so with a theme in mind, with a style in mind,

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Speaker 1: not just a Hodgepodge way. I don't think that works.

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Speaker 2: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 1: Ll Let's get to the Fox as and now every day

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Speaker 1: at this time in the Bonus Podcast, would play for

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Speaker 1: you a portion of a previous show Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports One. Okay, we call it. What does the

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Speaker 1: Fox say? This is earlier today? Dan Byer? Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: this is yesterday, Dan Byer. Kerry Rhodes had this reaction

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Speaker 1: to the Steelers win late in New Jersey over the Jets.

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Speaker 3: The biggest surprise for me. The biggest takeaway is that

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Speaker 3: Steelers Jets games. Obviously I'm not I'm not a Homer here.

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Speaker 3: I'm just in the way that both teams operated offensively.

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Speaker 3: But both offenses came out and put up points. And

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Speaker 4: Right when I thought the Steelers were maybe now too

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Speaker 4: got some miles on him. Jalen Ramsey makes the play

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Speaker 4: of Garrett Wilson that could have helped the Jets. So

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Speaker 4: Steelers want to know Aaron Rodgers for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, look, it was a huge win.

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Speaker 1: And I thought when you watch Aaron Rodgers, almost all

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Speaker 1: of his success came on rollouts. Rollouts when he's in

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Speaker 1: was great to beat anybody associated with the Jets, right.

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Speaker 1: I would love for him to expound upon that, maybe

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Speaker 1: but it felt to the outsider, like to us, like

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Speaker 1: what's he mad about? With the Jets? They bent over

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Speaker 1: backwards to try and make a work for him. Last year.

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen, they put the cape on him. Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 5: part of a great roster, a super Bowl winning coach.

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Speaker 5: I never feel like the organization lets him down, and

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Speaker 5: he has sputtered in big playoff spots. Josh Allen's passer

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Speaker 5: rating is better in the playoffs than the regular season,

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Speaker 5: and he was the MVP. He's always at his best

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Speaker 5: when the best is required. He doesn't need to prove

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Speaker 5: anything to anybody. His coach has often let him down.

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Speaker 5: He had more passing yards in the fourth quarter last

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Speaker 5: night than half the league had this weekend, sixteen unanswered

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Speaker 5: points against a better roster in Baltimore, Montana, Brady and

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Speaker 5: Mahomes have more hardware and maybe Owa's will. I have

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Speaker 5: never seen, including Patrick Mahomes, a quarterback with this much velocity,

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Speaker 5: this much power. His again, his playoff passer rating higher

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I didn't know we needed to,

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Speaker 1: the clutch. And I understand that last night. The game

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Speaker 1: But if you go back to the thirteen second or

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Speaker 1: they he never touched the ball. He played a perfect game.

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Speaker 1: They lost in Kansas City. To several of their other

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Speaker 1: playoff losses, not all of them, there have been a

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Speaker 1: it's not Super Bowl pressure, there's still an unbelievable amount

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Speaker 1: a way. I think there's a world there where he's

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Speaker 1: good discussion there to be had whether or not that's accurate.

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Speaker 1: And you know, did it you know, does it prove

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Speaker 1: it in a Week one comeback win when it was

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Speaker 1: helped by a fumble at a miracle catch, like all

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Speaker 1: of those things are part of the discussion. But I've

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Speaker 1: always thought this and this is the same with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: game maybe hadn't measured up in terms of NSC championship game.

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Speaker 1: Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Lions lost to the Packers.

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Speaker 6: The Lions are an interesting team. And you lose your coordinators,

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Speaker 6: you lose Ben Johnson, you lose Aaron Glenn and that

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Speaker 6: didn't come without some pain. Yesterday at Lambeau. This is

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Speaker 6: the highest scoring offense last year managed just thirteen points,

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Speaker 6: gave up twenty seven points. Some chunk plays as well. Now,

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Speaker 6: the talent is still there with Detroit. You know, golf

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Speaker 6: is still good. I'm on Ross Saint Brown Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 6: But when you replace your coordinators, if you go back

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Speaker 6: Now they had basically the same roster coming back. The

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Speaker 6: doesn't mean Detroit is doomed, but expectations may be tempered

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Speaker 6: a little bit here. Green Bay might be a little

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Speaker 6: end coordinators, you know, both became head coaches, and it

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think there's any question that as of

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Speaker 1: we saw last year. Now, remember guys don't play in

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Speaker 1: But again, as of now, as of right now, the

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Speaker 1: Lions have taken a rather serious step back, and the

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Speaker 1: Packers have taken a good step forward as of right now.

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Speaker 1: That's what the Fox said, saved.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Let's find out Who's annoying Jason Stewart and now.

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Speaker 2: It's your annoying.

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Speaker 1: A Doug.

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Speaker 7: The Chiefs lost on Friday to the Chargers in Brazil.

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Speaker 7: Chargers played well, thought that was a good game. One

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Speaker 7: place stock out Patrick Mahomes was running out of bounds,

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Speaker 7: had seemingly conceded that he was running out of bounds

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Speaker 7: when he turned to make a big hit on defensive

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Speaker 7: expecting it, and if it's anyone but Patrick Mahomes, he's

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Speaker 7: probably penalwised in that moment. I thought it was a

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Speaker 7: cheap shot. I thought it was bush league and a

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Speaker 7: bullshit play. I also think that Mahomes gets a little

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Speaker 7: cute around the out of bounds territory. Remember last year

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Speaker 7: we talked about how he'll act like he goes out

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Speaker 7: of bounds and then he'll just run up the sidewine

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Speaker 7: when the defense lets up. You're asking to be hurt

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Speaker 7: if you want all the defenses in the National Football

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Speaker 7: League and their scout teams to be like, oh wait,

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Speaker 7: he does cute things when he when he's near out

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Speaker 7: of bounds. That means that you and the NFL's most

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Speaker 7: prized possession is going to get a fucking lick on

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Speaker 7: the sidewines and it might hurt you for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Uh. I don't know if it's bush league, but I

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Speaker 1: get ident it's definitely something that you need to It's

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. Okay, It's like there was it

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Speaker 1: it was a hold there? Okay, a hold has to

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Speaker 1: be a grab and a tug, you know, or a tackle.

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Speaker 1: You got to get your hands out, you know, outside

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Speaker 1: of your shoulder pads. None of that happened. It was

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Speaker 1: more of a redirect. But Chiefs fans are are feeling

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Speaker 1: the wrath of everybody feeling like can City gets calls? Right,

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Speaker 1: so does the NFL. Now do you process this that

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Speaker 1: he leveled a guy going out of bounds. Next time

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Speaker 1: he gets bumped going out of bounds and then flops

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Speaker 1: and falls down, right, that's the big thing. Big thing is, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. Look at I have no problem with a

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Speaker 1: gonna knock anybody can cost to whatever. What everybody has

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Speaker 1: next time. That's what's gonna happen. What else?

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Speaker 7: Drew Feltwell. Drew Feltwell is a father of a ten

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Speaker 7: Marlins Park. Drew Feltwell had taken his ten year old

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Speaker 7: to the Phillies game on his tenth birthday. There was

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Speaker 7: a home run by his Phillies Harrison Bader into the

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Speaker 7: Kara Swisher what's her name on MSNBC anyhow, comes over

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Speaker 7: lost her job. I don't think that happened, but Drew

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Speaker 7: and his son did an interview after this whole thing happened.

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Speaker 8: I had already turned around and headed towards him, and

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Speaker 8: I got the ball, put it in his glove, and

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Speaker 8: I'm like like, wow, let's you know, why are you here?

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Speaker 8: Who are you?

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Speaker 1: That's my ball?

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Speaker 8: You got that from my seat, that's our seats, that's

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Speaker 7: Now, his son ended up getting a one on one

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Speaker 7: Rachel Maddow, Kara Swisher and Elizabeth Warren's love child. The

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Speaker 7: forty year old single woman who went over and brated

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Speaker 1: She's incredibly annoying. She's been plenty shamed by the internet,

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Speaker 1: so I don't need to hop on. But again, there

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Speaker 1: I was at the Cubs game and Sammy threw me

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Speaker 1: it is she didn't catch the ball on the fly.

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Speaker 1: You don't catch the ball on the fly. It is

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Speaker 1: It's hurt his ball, his ball. Play on Jay Stu.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think it's close. Right, we can shut

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Speaker 1: this one down, Phillies fan, your local Karen. Right. The

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Speaker 1: just multitude of layers to it. The basics of it are, Hey,

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Speaker 1: why the entire thing flipping people the bird because they're

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Speaker 1: booing her? Right, the whole thing hearing from the block.

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