WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Doctor Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Doc to Doc do give

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<v Speaker 1>it the news edition as we all wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>if Joe Burrow will be able to play on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>Night against the Rams. Coming up, we'll hear from Burrow,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor, and t Higgins on the topic, and also

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<v Speaker 1>here from the guy who will start in Burrow's place

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<v Speaker 1>if he can't play on Monday, Jake Browning. Plus I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go one on one with Nick Scott, who played for

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams for the last four years and shares his

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on Matthew Stafford, Aaron Donald and others. ESPN is

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<v Speaker 1>a week left. The final performance is on Sunday, October First, now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to Joe Burrow. For the final two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half quarters of last Sunday's loss to the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 1>he looked like Joe Burrow empty backfield for Burrow. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens showing pressure. Burrow ready catches the shotgun snap he's

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble, throws off his back foot.

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<v Speaker 2>Higgins makes the catch touchdown Bengals. Burrow retreating to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>the rush and he made a great throw off his

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<v Speaker 2>back foot to T Higgins for the touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>On Cincinnati's final five drives, Joe threw for two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>nine yards and two touchdowns. If not for a red

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<v Speaker 1>zone interception, the Bengals would have scored on four of

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<v Speaker 1>their last five possessions. How did Joe look, to his

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<v Speaker 1>head coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Really good in that last game. Aside from the interception,

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<v Speaker 3>me one bad ball placement, you're not going to so

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<v Speaker 3>he I thought he performed really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, on his next to last snap against the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe tweaked his calf injury, making him questionable for Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night's game against the Rams. When the team held its

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<v Speaker 1>first practice of the week on Thursday, Burrow was present

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<v Speaker 1>but did not take part in any drills.

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<v Speaker 3>Soreness is an issue right now, and so giving him

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<v Speaker 3>some time his best and so this week we're forward

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<v Speaker 3>to nextra day, which is a positive and we'll just

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see how the practice go.

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<v Speaker 1>So does Joe need to practice this week to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to play on Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta practice one day, maybe not full, but you

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<v Speaker 4>got to be out there running around throwing the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>You just got to feel confident in your ability to

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<v Speaker 4>go out and do the job.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know yet.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see, We'll see how we feel the next couple

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<v Speaker 4>of days.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't really have an answer for you there.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, Burrow was only sacked once and rarely pressured.

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<v Speaker 1>But Aaron Donald is coming to town on Monday. In

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of Super Bowl fifty six, the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>had six sacks and eleven pressures. The quarterback will need

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to move.

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<v Speaker 4>You need it in every game. You're not gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>able to just stand back there. And that's part of

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<v Speaker 4>my game is moving around and making plays. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think for the most part last Sunday I was

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<v Speaker 4>I was doing a really good job of that. Like

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<v Speaker 4>you said, the offensive line played great, the pocket was firm,

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<v Speaker 4>but when I had to move.

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<v Speaker 7>I felt good about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have tried to adjust the offense to limit

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<v Speaker 1>burrows movement, with mixed results. I discussed that this week

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<v Speaker 1>with Dave Lapham.

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<v Speaker 6>All I know is you get in a game and

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<v Speaker 6>Joe being competitive, jumping over guys.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it's like, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, you know, you can't you can't say if

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<v Speaker 6>I'm out there playing, I'm gonna play. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be out there and say, oh I can't do this,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't do that. You can't play that way in

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<v Speaker 6>the Nashville foot these guys are too good, they're too fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, the offensive line did an incredible job. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to move that much. Last week. They're facing

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald on Monday night and he might not get sacked,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are not going to go through a game

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<v Speaker 1>without having to move away from Aaron Donald.

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<v Speaker 6>And this rookie, Byron Young has a sack and a half.

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<v Speaker 6>And Aaron Donald is a disruptor. Young Young is on

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<v Speaker 6>the on the edge. He's an edge guy. There's there's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot to digest, a lot to think about. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>do you have them out there at practice and limit

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<v Speaker 6>yourself physically. That's not a good way to practice. That's

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<v Speaker 6>not a good way for the receivers to practice with them.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, you know, we're not gonna throw this run.

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<v Speaker 6>We're not gonna do this. We're not gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>take it easy here. We're gonna that. You're not you're

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<v Speaker 6>not getting get you're not getting reps. You're not getting

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<v Speaker 6>full speed reps. You're not right now. There a problem

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<v Speaker 6>is they're not in any kind of rhythm. They're on

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<v Speaker 6>a sink, you know. And if you are practicing and

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<v Speaker 6>then game planning to medically protect your guy, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 8>It's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very tough. If they were played, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so too, and oh two division wins agree.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know that they can If if the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor says he can play without risk of seriously injuring this,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they can set them.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's the thing with these casts. It's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 6>every injury is different. Every body is different that gets injured.

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<v Speaker 6>Every recovery is different because everybody and every injury is different.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no like cookie Cutter. This is exactly like so

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<v Speaker 6>and so is. You know, everything is a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you can put him in categories. This is like

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<v Speaker 6>this guy had this, like that guy had or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>But you just you just don't know. And the worst

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<v Speaker 6>thing in the world, God forbid, I don't even want

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<v Speaker 6>to say it, but it's like, you don't want it

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<v Speaker 6>to be a right now we're talking strained. You don't

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<v Speaker 6>want it to be anything more than that because you

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<v Speaker 6>try to do too much too soon. Or and again

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<v Speaker 6>because Joe so damn tough. You know, he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 6>say I can't go, I can't He's not gonna. He

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<v Speaker 6>is competitive, he thinks the world of his teammates. He

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<v Speaker 6>wants to do everything he can to be successful for

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<v Speaker 6>his teammates. It's a it's a tough dynamic, it really is, man,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. And then if you do sit him, how

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<v Speaker 6>long will that be? Will it be until the bye week?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean at that point in time, who the hell knows.

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<v Speaker 8>Where they are? And that that that's drastic.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, because I don't think the they're tweaking

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<v Speaker 6>of the calf, you know, merits that kind of time off.

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<v Speaker 6>But if he tweaks it again or again, and and

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<v Speaker 6>I've talked to guys are like, man, I felt like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>my calf feels better than it did before I had

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<v Speaker 6>the problem. And I go out there and halfway through

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<v Speaker 6>the game, you know I'm really feeling good and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>doing my thing.

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<v Speaker 8>It just reaches right up and grabs me, and it's

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<v Speaker 8>like son of a gunman.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm set back to to where I was, or even

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<v Speaker 6>worse than before. And that's the scary part of these

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<v Speaker 6>calf injuries. Man, they are tricky.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are zero and two and Joe desperately wants

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<v Speaker 1>to play.

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<v Speaker 7>It's in my head, for sure, I'm thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But how does he balance getting that first win versus

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<v Speaker 1>giving his calf the time to heal. No matter how

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<v Speaker 1>long it takes.

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<v Speaker 7>That may not be my decision to make. My job

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<v Speaker 7>is to go out and play. That's that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 7>preparing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are not going to jeopardize his long term health,

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<v Speaker 1>so if Burrow can't play on Monday, Jake Browning will

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<v Speaker 1>start in his place. The former University of Washington star

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<v Speaker 1>made his NFL debut at the end of the Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>game in Week one after spending the last four years

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<v Speaker 1>on NFL practice squads.

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<v Speaker 9>I take a lot of pride in I came in

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<v Speaker 9>this league as an undrafted guy, and you know, there's

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<v Speaker 9>not very many handouts that are given there. It took

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<v Speaker 9>me four years and damn your life sentence on practice

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<v Speaker 9>squad to really take four years of doubling down on hey,

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<v Speaker 9>at some point we get an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 7>Whether that's a year or whatever.

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<v Speaker 9>Actually, the best advice I got year one is an

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<v Speaker 9>undrafted rookie was Kirk Cousins said, Hey, you gotta have

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<v Speaker 9>a ten year time horizon and keep whenever that time comes, like,

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<v Speaker 9>at some point you're gonna get your opportunity. And so

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<v Speaker 9>I kind of took that as every off season really

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<v Speaker 9>doubling down and make investing, you know, whether it's money

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<v Speaker 9>or time or whatever into becoming a better player and

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<v Speaker 9>trying to get access to the best information, the best

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<v Speaker 9>you know, off seasons I can have to try and

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<v Speaker 9>put myself in a position to play well, and so

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<v Speaker 9>you know, whether that opportunity is Monday or or next

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<v Speaker 9>year or whenever, you know, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>When Burrow hurt his calf on the second day of

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, Browning spent the next five weeks competing for

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<v Speaker 1>the backup job with Trevor Simeon. They alternated with a

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<v Speaker 1>first string offense, meaning that Browning was working with the

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<v Speaker 1>starting offensive line and throwing to Chase Higgins and Boyd.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think there's many quarterbacks in the NFL. It

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<v Speaker 9>took more reps in the month of August than I did,

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<v Speaker 9>and so you know, I'm at this point the season.

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<v Speaker 9>I've probably played as much.

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<v Speaker 7>Football as everybody else has this year. So obviously there's

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<v Speaker 7>a little the.

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<v Speaker 9>Higher stakes for a regular season game. But I feel

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<v Speaker 9>like I've taken a lot of reps and I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Browning led the Bengals on an eight play eighty yard

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown drive to end their second preseason game, then opened

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<v Speaker 1>their final preseason game with a ten play sixty one

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<v Speaker 1>yard drive that he finished with a touchdown pass to

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<v Speaker 1>andre Yosi Vash. He impressed t Higgins.

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<v Speaker 10>Got Riisling. You know, he's he made good reads. He's

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<v Speaker 10>just he's a baller, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 10>just got that that goes out there and doesn't.

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<v Speaker 7>Job to He developed some trust with you guys over

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<v Speaker 7>that period, or if he was called, I doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 7>like he did, you know what I'm saying. He's way

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<v Speaker 7>more confident in offense.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, you could tell that he's during that time

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<v Speaker 10>he was out there, He's been a vocal leader as

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<v Speaker 10>he should be as he should you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 10>So you know, definitely Bills built built some confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know just the last time the Bengals played

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<v Speaker 1>a Monday night game without their starting quarterback was in

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<v Speaker 1>Burrows rookie year, when Ryan Finley led the team to

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<v Speaker 1>a ten point win over the eleven and two Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>He only completed seven passes in that game, but he

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<v Speaker 1>ran for forty seven yards, including a twenty three yard touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Browning showed he can move in the preseason and if

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<v Speaker 1>he has to start, Zach Taylor will adjust the game

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<v Speaker 1>plan to fit his skill set.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to have great conversation with all quarterbacks. Anytime

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<v Speaker 3>a quarterbacks plan, you got to make sure you connect

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<v Speaker 3>with them and they understand the intent of the plan

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<v Speaker 3>and why we're doing things and what they feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>with backup quarterback you've ever had, whether it's the full

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<v Speaker 3>game plan or a scale down plan, you want to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure they're comfortable. So those conversations always take place.

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<v Speaker 3>We always ask Jake his opinions the night before games

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<v Speaker 3>on these situations, what plays would you want? We're always

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<v Speaker 3>connected that way. And it's on the call sheet, and

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<v Speaker 3>this week is no different.

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<v Speaker 1>But it could turn out to be very different. For Browning, it's.

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<v Speaker 9>My job to be prepared if Joe goes down. And

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<v Speaker 9>so really for me, of the week is no different.

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<v Speaker 9>Even when I was on Pea squad, I knew there

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<v Speaker 9>was zero chance to be playing, but I was fully prepared,

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<v Speaker 9>and you know, I would go through the whole game

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<v Speaker 9>plan like I was gonna be the backup and like

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<v Speaker 9>I had a chance of playing. And so it's kind

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<v Speaker 9>of my job to be ready if Joe goes down.

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<v Speaker 9>And so that's going into my third week of doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an additional twist to the quarterback quandary after

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<v Speaker 1>practice on Thursday, as the Patriots grabbed Will Grier off

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals practice squad and added him to their fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three man roster. The Pats have been cycling through candidates

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<v Speaker 1>back up Mac Jones over the past several weeks. That

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<v Speaker 1>temporarily leaves the Bengals without a third string quarterback, although

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing they'll have one by the time you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this podcast. Bringing back Simeon or Reed Sinnet, who

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<v Speaker 1>were with the team during training camp, seem like the

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<v Speaker 1>most likely options. The Bengals Booth podcast is brought to

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<v Speaker 1>of Super Bowl fifty six, and there's a player with

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<v Speaker 1>a Rams Super Bowl ring in the Bengals locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>safety Neck Scott, who signed with the Bengals in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season after spending his first four NFL seasons in LA.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Nick on Thursday. Nick, you played for

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams as recently as last year, but they've got

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen rookies on the roster. There are four veterans who

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<v Speaker 1>weren't there last year. When you put on the tape,

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<v Speaker 1>do you even recognize these guys?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it looks like a totally new team from you know,

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<v Speaker 11>when I was there.

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously I spent the last four years there.

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<v Speaker 11>There's a lot of turnover in this league, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>see some familiar faces of those guys that have been

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<v Speaker 11>doing good. Thanks for him for a while, and they

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<v Speaker 11>got some new guys that've been showing up on him.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the familiar faces is the quarterback Matt Stafford.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks rejuvenated. He looks younger than me. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's lost some weight or something like that. Does he

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<v Speaker 1>look as good as ever when you watch him?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean anytime he's on the field, you gotta

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<v Speaker 11>respect him and what he's done in this league. And

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<v Speaker 11>he's still got a rocket of an arm and very

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<v Speaker 11>confident in his throat. So that makes it a tremendous

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<v Speaker 11>challenge for any defender. You know, I'm blessed. I've had

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<v Speaker 11>the opportunity to go against him for a couple of

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<v Speaker 11>years now, so it's gonna be a good challenge and

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<v Speaker 11>I'm excited about the matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>We're chatting with Nick Scott. Their offense is off to

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<v Speaker 1>a great start. I think they're first in the league

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<v Speaker 1>in first downs per game, second in yards per game.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching a little of their game last week, there's motion

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<v Speaker 1>on every snap, and it's mass motion, jet motion. What

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the challenges that their offense presents.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, I think a big part of mcveigh's offense

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<v Speaker 11>is just trying to catch the defense with their pants

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<v Speaker 11>down right and getting getting up to the line fast

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<v Speaker 11>snapping it. They got all types of jets, emotions going

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<v Speaker 11>all over the place, So it's really to challenge the

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<v Speaker 11>defense's eyes and get guys reading the wrong keys. But

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<v Speaker 11>we got a veteran group and guys stay sound in

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<v Speaker 11>their keys, and that comes down to trust in one another.

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<v Speaker 11>So I think we should be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Rookie Pooka natuah nakua excuse me, leads the NFL and

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<v Speaker 1>receptions two two at wells in the top ten and

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<v Speaker 1>receiving yards. Describe those two and what you've seen on tape.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I don't know much about this Pooka kid.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, obviously you take your hat off to him

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<v Speaker 11>coming in and being a new guy and having that

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<v Speaker 11>kind of impact already in that offense.

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<v Speaker 7>So credit to him.

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<v Speaker 11>We're going to do whatever we can to challenge him

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<v Speaker 11>and make sure that any ball throwing his way is contested.

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<v Speaker 7>And then two two at well. As a guy just

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<v Speaker 7>being with him, he can always tear the top off

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<v Speaker 7>of the defense.

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<v Speaker 11>So he's a guy that you definitely want to keep

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<v Speaker 11>in front of you because once it becomes a race,

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<v Speaker 11>it can be tough.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, like I.

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<v Speaker 11>Said, I've been over there for a while, seeing a

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<v Speaker 11>lot of those guys, and you know, it's exciting, you

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<v Speaker 11>know as a friend seeing what they're doing. But it's

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<v Speaker 11>my job to make sure that it's a bad day

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<v Speaker 11>for him when they come here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Nick Scott. You spent the last four

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<v Speaker 1>years playing with Aaron Donald on defense. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>future first ballot Hall of Famer. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>favorite Aaron Donald's story or memory, whether it's on the

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<v Speaker 1>field or off.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh Man, just probably every day in the facility. I

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<v Speaker 11>used to bully him and take his lunch money, stuff

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<v Speaker 11>him in lockers and everything like that, you know, because

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<v Speaker 11>that's like my little brother. Nah, he's a good dude.

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<v Speaker 7>We had a good relationship over there.

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<v Speaker 11>We had a lot of fun just joking around. So

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<v Speaker 11>I got a pleathant of memories with him. He's a

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<v Speaker 11>good dude, and you know, obviously he's a big part

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<v Speaker 11>of that team's success.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were stuffing him in lockers, you are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot stronger than here.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he's gonna love that. I said that. He gets

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<v Speaker 7>catches winto that.

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<v Speaker 1>So every NFL loss hits hard. You guys put so

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<v Speaker 1>much into it every week physically and emotionally.

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<v Speaker 7>How do you process a loss?

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<v Speaker 11>I'm big on just you know, moving on after you

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<v Speaker 11>look at your mistakes and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, win, lose, or draw.

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<v Speaker 11>I think you take the same approach in terms of

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<v Speaker 11>trying to get better the next week.

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<v Speaker 7>Just focus on your individual job and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 11>Media and outsiders will get into pointing fingers, but you know,

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think anybody in this locker room is big

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<v Speaker 11>on that. We focus on our mistakes and where we

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<v Speaker 11>can get better and try to improve that next week.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't use the expression must win in week three,

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<v Speaker 1>there's too much of the season left, but obviously at

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<v Speaker 1>zero and two you could really use a win. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the player's approach where that's concerned this week?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's the next week, so for everybody's a must win.

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<v Speaker 11>Like you say, you try not to get in too

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<v Speaker 11>deep of looking at a big picture in terms of.

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<v Speaker 7>The entire season, entire schedule.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, the way I was brought up being with

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<v Speaker 11>coach Franklin at Penn State is every weekend you try

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<v Speaker 11>to go one to oh and that's the only game

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<v Speaker 11>that matters. So we're not looking behind, we're not looking ahead.

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<v Speaker 11>We're looking at the rams and the goals. To come

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<v Speaker 11>out one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>This week. It's Monday Night Football. The jungle is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be rocking. You've played more than seventy NFL games,

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<v Speaker 1>You've played in the Super Bowl. Does your pulse pick

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit for a prime time game at

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<v Speaker 1>this point or is it just another game?

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<v Speaker 11>I think there's definitely a little added aura like excitement

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<v Speaker 11>around the game, and there's just nothing like playing at

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<v Speaker 11>night in a full stadium. Yeah, you could say, and

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<v Speaker 11>some guys, including myself, it turns you up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 11>Being in that atmosphere is super exciting, and it just

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<v Speaker 11>before the game.

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<v Speaker 7>I just usually feel an overwhelming sense of.

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<v Speaker 11>Just being blessed to have this opportunity to be playing

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<v Speaker 11>in such a cool environment and it be something that's

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<v Speaker 11>normal for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your time, good luck against the Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>just like last year, the Bengals are off to an

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<v Speaker 1>zero to two start. What do you and your ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues make of it?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I mean, look, Dan, we specifically me not thrilled

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<v Speaker 12>with it because I picked the Bengals to be in

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<v Speaker 12>the Super Bowl. So I still think it's gonna happ

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<v Speaker 12>and I'm going to stick to that. But they got

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<v Speaker 12>to get things turned around here quick, and maybe Monday

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<v Speaker 12>Night Football is the stage for all that to happen

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<v Speaker 12>on But the one thing I would point out is

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<v Speaker 12>we feel like the first game, because of the rain

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<v Speaker 12>and just bad weather, you almost throw that one out

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<v Speaker 12>last week. I think they played a lot better than

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<v Speaker 12>it looked like and a lot better than maybe the

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<v Speaker 12>box score would show. And I know that sounds sort

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<v Speaker 12>of typical of oh, there's more to it than just

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<v Speaker 12>the box score, but I think specifically when it comes

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<v Speaker 12>to this Bengals team, you're seeing a lot more signs

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<v Speaker 12>of life offensively, and a lot more signs that Joe

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<v Speaker 12>Burrow is getting more comfortable than maybe it appeared based

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<v Speaker 12>on the points. My biggest concern is whether or not

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<v Speaker 12>Burrow is going to play. I know you guys are

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<v Speaker 12>following that closely as well, but I think he needs

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<v Speaker 12>to if it's at all possible. He needs to play

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<v Speaker 12>in this game against the Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>The offense, as you noted, did start to click last week.

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<v Speaker 1>They could have scored on four of their last five

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<v Speaker 1>drives if Joe didn't get picked off in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it look normal to you?

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<v Speaker 12>It did? I think you know what we've seen from

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<v Speaker 12>Joe Burrow, and this has happened these last handful of seasons,

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<v Speaker 12>is that he doesn't get to play a lot during

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<v Speaker 12>the off season for a variety of different reasons right

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<v Speaker 12>every time, certainly the calf this year, but even last

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<v Speaker 12>season coming in they didn't look great early on either

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<v Speaker 12>because he had had to take so much time off,

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<v Speaker 12>and this game is really hard, and I think that

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<v Speaker 12>gets lost sometimes in all of this. I think the

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<v Speaker 12>offensive line is better than what we you know, may

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<v Speaker 12>may think based on, you know, the way that it

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<v Speaker 12>looked like he got hit early on this season. I

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<v Speaker 12>think they're doing better than we thought. And I do

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<v Speaker 12>think that, you know, we're seeing this start to click

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<v Speaker 12>a little bit. You know. The interesting thing to me

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<v Speaker 12>is how can we get Jamar Chase a little bit

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<v Speaker 12>more involved? Because t Higgins has kind of been the

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<v Speaker 12>go to guy here early on, which makes sense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>he's an ultra talented receiver. But when you have Jamar

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<v Speaker 12>on your team and he can do so much, I

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<v Speaker 12>just think there's some more creative ways that he could

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<v Speaker 12>be used. I'll be curious to see if they try

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<v Speaker 12>to do that, because obvious everyone knows they've got to

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<v Speaker 12>cover Jamar Chase, So what can happen to make him

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<v Speaker 12>more open? I think using him and maybe a more

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<v Speaker 12>unexpected less of a Hey, here's our guy who can

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<v Speaker 12>you know, run a deeper route and catch any ball

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<v Speaker 12>that's thrown his way. Let's try to mix him in

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<v Speaker 12>in other ways to get him going and to get

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<v Speaker 12>that rhythm with Burrow and Jamar going a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>We are visiting with Laura Rutledge from ESPN. I am

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<v Speaker 1>admittedly biased, but I feel like the Bengals defense doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get the attention it deserves. Do you agree?

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<v Speaker 12>I do. I will say on NFL Live, we love

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<v Speaker 12>the Bengals defense, and we love lou An Arumo at

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<v Speaker 12>their defensive coordinator. I think he is and the numbers

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<v Speaker 12>back this up. As a defensive coordinator and as a

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<v Speaker 12>defense as a whole, they are one of the absolute

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<v Speaker 12>best when it comes to second half adjustments. And you know,

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<v Speaker 12>I don't know if people realize, but halftimes in the

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<v Speaker 12>NFL are not that long, and they're able to very

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<v Speaker 12>quickly identify things. I mean, this game, you know, you

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<v Speaker 12>see so many offenses able to do things and the

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<v Speaker 12>defense has to adjust and it's kind of the way

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<v Speaker 12>it's going to go. They are able to adjust better

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<v Speaker 12>than any other team, and I just think that's such

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<v Speaker 12>a valuable trait to have as a defense. And it

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<v Speaker 12>all starts with lou aenn Arumo. So I agree. I

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<v Speaker 12>think this defense probably doesn't get enough credit. And you

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 12>know they're gonna be Listen, this Rams offense is playing

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<v Speaker 12>really well. Right now, and Matthew Stafford might be playing

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<v Speaker 12>the best at the quarterback position of anybody so far

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<v Speaker 12>this season, So they're gonna have their work cut out

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<v Speaker 12>for them. But I believe they will give the Rams

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<v Speaker 12>far more difficult game than any of their opponents have

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:34.120
<v Speaker 12>given them thus far this season. And I just think

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<v Speaker 12>most offenses say, we really don't want to face that

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<v Speaker 12>Bengals defense, which is probably the biggest compliment you could

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<v Speaker 12>actually get in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura, we are two weeks into the season. There are

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<v Speaker 1>two undefeated teams left in the AFC, Miami in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. What do you make of the other fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>having at least one loss?

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<v Speaker 12>I tell you what, the AFC is just tough sledding.

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<v Speaker 12>And you know, that's one of the reasons why I

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<v Speaker 12>do think this game this week is so for the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 12>because you just can't be having three losses, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>this early in the season. And there I still believe

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<v Speaker 12>there's such a talented team, there's so much still left

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<v Speaker 12>for them, and so I want them to go ahead

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<v Speaker 12>and start winning here because I think I think they

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<v Speaker 12>have the ability to potentially make it all the way.

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<v Speaker 12>It's just a matter of how do you get past

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<v Speaker 12>some of these ridiculously talented teams. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 12>think what we're seeing is you look over to the

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<v Speaker 12>NFC side and you say, well, yeah, you know, teams

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<v Speaker 12>probably afford a few more losses here and there because

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<v Speaker 12>there's still going to be a shot there down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 12>That's just not the case with this the strength of

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<v Speaker 12>the AFC, and it's going to be fascinating to see

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<v Speaker 12>who comes out on top as the AFC representative in

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<v Speaker 12>the super Bowl. But even when it comes to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, you look around and I don't know by

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<v Speaker 12>that point, you know, I think Miami and I do

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<v Speaker 12>think Baltimore will still be really good. But I don't

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<v Speaker 12>know that we'd be saying like, oh yeah, remember when

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<v Speaker 12>those were the only two teams that didn't have a

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<v Speaker 12>loss in this side of the league. It just seems

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<v Speaker 12>like somebody, so one of these teams, or a few

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<v Speaker 12>of these teams are gonna end up staying healthy long

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<v Speaker 12>enough to where they'll end up being the contenders. Because

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<v Speaker 12>as far as just stacked rosters and talent goes, the

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<v Speaker 12>AFC is a behemoth at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So for people who have not watched the Rams so far.

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<v Speaker 1>They dominated Seattle on the road. In week one, they

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<v Speaker 1>outgained the forty nine ers, but lost by seven in

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<v Speaker 1>week two. Here's the question, who the heck is Pouoka

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<v Speaker 1>Nakua and why can't anybody cover the guy?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I'm glad you asked about Pooka Nakua because I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>what a story man so far this season. He's already

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<v Speaker 12>set in records. You know, he's doing all these things

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<v Speaker 12>that you just don't expect to see out of rookies

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<v Speaker 12>in general. But for a guy that was just so unheralded,

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<v Speaker 12>it's it's fascinating to see. And you know, it's all

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<v Speaker 12>a product of different things, right, So, the fact that

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<v Speaker 12>Cooper Cup hasn't been available, they've had to work their

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<v Speaker 12>offense in different ways, and Van Jefferson, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 12>hasn't been targeted as much. And I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 12>they really trust him, maybe as much as as you

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<v Speaker 12>would think considering how long he's been in that offense.

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<v Speaker 12>But Kuka Nakua, you know, everything you throw at him,

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 12>he catches it, and he figures out a way to

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<v Speaker 12>sort of like barrel forward. He's such a sturdy player

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 12>that may sound weird, but it's just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>he's not gonna vow you size wise or traits wise,

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<v Speaker 12>but he just makes things happen. And I expect more

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<v Speaker 12>of the same out of him. I think lou An

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<v Speaker 12>Aroumo probably have some things cooked up for him. Like

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<v Speaker 12>I said, I do think this Bengals defense gives a

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<v Speaker 12>far more challenging outlook for this Rams offense than the

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<v Speaker 12>two opponents they've already faced. But what a story. I'll

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<v Speaker 12>tell you this really fast is interesting. We were talking

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<v Speaker 12>about him, you know, with Lewis Riddick, who's on the

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<v Speaker 12>broadcast with us, and of course Lewis is heavily involved

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<v Speaker 12>in the NFL Draft, and we were talking about him

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<v Speaker 12>with our producer who also produces the NFL Draft, the

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<v Speaker 12>producer of our Monday Night Football game as an NFL

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<v Speaker 12>Draft producer, and they were talking about Nakua and they

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<v Speaker 12>said that when they got to him, they're not even

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<v Speaker 12>sure that they showed his highlights at the draft because

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<v Speaker 12>they're like, ah, you know, I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 12>like really that compelling. And then look at this guy,

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<v Speaker 12>he's burst on. He's one of the best stories, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>early on in the NFL season, So it's just it's amazing,

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<v Speaker 12>and I think, you know, I think everyone's taking him

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<v Speaker 12>seriously at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So pocus new Aaron Donald is not. He's thirty two.

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<v Speaker 1>He is presumably nearing the end of his Hall of

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Fame career. When it's done. What will football people say

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<v Speaker 1>about Aaron Donald.

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<v Speaker 12>I think he's the standard for that position. And when

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 12>you think about just fearce, tenacious defensive linemen, guys that

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 12>quarterbacks have nightmares about, that would be Aaron Donald. And

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<v Speaker 12>I think if you're somebody in that position, that's exactly

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.400
<v Speaker 12>how you want to be thought of and remembered when

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 12>it's all said and done. And you know, the athleticism

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 12>with which he plays the position is impressive, and the

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 12>skill set is there obviously, the size, all the things,

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<v Speaker 12>But I think it's it's his mentality. It's his laser

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<v Speaker 12>focus on the quarterback that no matter what, he's going

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 12>to get there and no out of the opponent. You know,

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 12>he's been able to do that. He's just such a

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 12>force and it's really been I think fun. It's been

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<v Speaker 12>a pleasure, you know, if you like defense, it's been

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 12>a pleasure to watch him play, and you know, he

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<v Speaker 12>talked about actually hanging it up relatively recently and then

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<v Speaker 12>decided to keep going. And we'll see, if you know,

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 12>he ends up being able to win another championship or

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<v Speaker 12>something before he hangs it up. But I think he's

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<v Speaker 12>already accomplished so incredibly much, you know, in his career,

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<v Speaker 12>and it'll be one that we all look back on

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<v Speaker 12>and say, Okay, that's a name that you associate with

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<v Speaker 12>one of the best at the d line position.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell your producer on Monday night to go easy on

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<v Speaker 1>the video of him getting to Burrow and then pointing

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<v Speaker 1>to the ring finger at the end of the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen that highlight enough here in Cincinnati. So Monday

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<v Speaker 1>Night's going to be special. The Bengals will be wearing

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>their white Bengal uniforms, The Ring of Honor ceremony is

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<v Speaker 1>coming up at halftime. The jungle is going to be rocking.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of the keys to the Bengals and

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<v Speaker 1>Rams on Monday night?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, we can't wait. By the way, I mean, what

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<v Speaker 12>a pleasure to be in that environment, to be able to,

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 12>you know, see some of these Bengals fans in person.

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<v Speaker 12>But I think it's relatively obvious, but specific to this game.

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<v Speaker 12>Got to protect Joe Burrow and I'm hoping he plays right,

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 12>so you got to protect him. You got to limit

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<v Speaker 12>Poka Nakua on the other side and force Matthew Stafford

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<v Speaker 12>in a situation to where they really have to make

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<v Speaker 12>something happen. In the past game, you know he can

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<v Speaker 12>do that, but they they do rely a lot on

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<v Speaker 12>the run game, so you know, try to limit that,

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<v Speaker 12>try to get him feeling some pressure that may not

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<v Speaker 12>even be there, which I think Anna Rumo has a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of things cooked up his sleeve where he should

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<v Speaker 12>be able to do that. And then you know, I

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<v Speaker 12>would just say, I think this one's going to be

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<v Speaker 12>back and forth throughout. I think we're going to see

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of offense, so it may really be like

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<v Speaker 12>who gets the last laugh there, and that's where you've

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 12>just got to score in the red zone. So I

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 12>sound like a football coach because I'm like, okay, so protection,

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 12>limit turnovers, make sure you score in the red zone.

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 12>But truly, in this game, I think those are the keys.

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<v Speaker 1>We are really looking forward to having ESPN in town

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<v Speaker 1>and we appreciate your time today.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Laura.

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<v Speaker 12>Thanks Dan, I appreciate you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Faux segment. Jake Ellenbogan co hosts the Believe In Rams

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on the Believe Podcast Network and joined lappin Me

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bengals Game Plan Show this week. Our first

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<v Speaker 1>topic rookie wide receiver Pouka Niakua, who leads the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>in receptions with twenty five and ranks second in receiving

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>yards behind Justin Jefferson.

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<v Speaker 5>Poka Naka is a fifth round rookie who wasn't even

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<v Speaker 5>drafted with the first pick that the Rams had in

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 5>the fifth round. He was drafted with the fourth they

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 5>had four, and he was drafted with the last one.

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<v Speaker 5>He's somebody that's filling in for Cooper Cup and doing

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<v Speaker 5>a very good job of it, breaking records that seems

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 5>like every which way, while also he was nursing in

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 5>oblique injury. To believe they're not.

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<v Speaker 8>That's quite amazing.

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:15.479
<v Speaker 7>It really is.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of people are not part of the Rams organization,

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 6>recognizable names, No Bobby Wagner, no Leonard Floyd, no Jalen Ramsey,

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 6>but still have a guy named Matthew Stafford offensively and

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 6>Aaron Donald defensively. And people were saying it's not a rebuild,

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 6>it's a remodel, and the way the Rams are playing

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 6>it looks more like a remodel instead of a rebuild.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you surprised at all that they got out of

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<v Speaker 6>the gate as well as they did?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm not surprised except for Puka Naku. I don't

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 5>think anyone who thinks that they saw that coming, And

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 5>I know the Rams talk about it, but you know,

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 5>obviously if you thought that was going to come from

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 5>a receiver, you wouldn't have drafted him with your seventh

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 5>pick out of court. So I wouldn't say the Rams

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 5>have surprised me because I've been pretty high on them

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 5>coming in the season. I've said, pump the brakes on

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 5>Caleb Williams just a sec I don't think they're going

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 5>to be anywhere near that sweet stakes. I have them

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 5>making the playoffs, winning ten games this year. I just

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 5>think The one thing that's really surprised me is how

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 5>well that back end of the secondary has held up

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<v Speaker 5>against the likes of DK Metcalf. You talk about Jackson

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<v Speaker 5>Smith and Jigba, Tyler Lockett, Deebo, Samuel Brandon, Ayuk, I

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<v Speaker 5>would give them credit in that regard. I wasn't expecting

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 5>to look this good. And Kuka Niku, I just I

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 5>was not expecting what we've seen for him so far.

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<v Speaker 1>We are visiting with Jake ellen Bogan. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>co host of the Belief in Rams podcast. You can

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<v Speaker 1>follow him on Twitter at JK Bogan bog e N.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched their game against the forty nine Ers earlier today.

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<v Speaker 1>The offense to me, looked fantastic. There's motion on every play.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford looks as good as ever. They scored on

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>eight consecutive drives between the opener against Seattle and last

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<v Speaker 1>week against San Francisco. What stands out to you, Jake,

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch this offense through two weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think the first single stand out to you

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 5>is that offensive line is not last year's offensive climb.

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 5>They had sixteen different offensive line combinations last year, and

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<v Speaker 5>you're not gonna win football games when you're down to

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<v Speaker 5>your third and fourth string, you're definitely not gonna win

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<v Speaker 5>football games when you're starting a guy at left tackle

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 5>who was on your practice squad in twenty twelve. So

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<v Speaker 5>when you look at what they've done so far, you

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<v Speaker 5>know it's been really good just seeing what they've gotten

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 5>out of udfa Alric Jackson becoming that you know, left

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 5>tackle hopefully in the future for them. And then you

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 5>look at going out and getting Steve Avila in the

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 5>second round. He's been a plug and play Darling Colton, Colton, Shelton,

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 5>excuse me at center has looked really good. Joe Nobum,

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 5>who was supposed to be the left tackle of the

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 5>future they paid big bucks to look really good at

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 5>right guard before going down with an injury, looks like

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 5>he'll be ready to go this week. And Rob Hadnstein

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 5>has really just solidified that right side. But another thing

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 5>you'll notice is, like you said, a lot of motions,

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 5>and you know what we're seeing is to two out well,

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.800
<v Speaker 5>the emergence of at Well, a twenty twenty one second

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 5>rounder who missed that entire season, didn't even get a

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 5>chance to shoot up to that Super Bowl, missed the

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 5>entire season after an injury that you know suffered there.

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 5>He got an opportunity this year.

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 8>To start right out of the gate.

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 5>And while Kukakua has been turning heads, we can't discount

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<v Speaker 5>to to out well. Both of them combined are by

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 5>the way, that duo is leading the league in the

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 5>NFL in receiving, which is pretty crazy when you think

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 5>about it like that. No Cooper cups, no problem, not really,

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 5>but they've looked really good and the motion like you

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 5>brought up with two two out well is creating so

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 5>much space underneath for guys like Chakua, guys like Van

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 5>Jefferson and Tyler Higbee and new starting running back Hyan Williams.

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 5>It's been a breath of fresh air if you're watching

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 5>the Rams offense this year as opposed to last year.

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 5>And a big reason for that is they're adopting a

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 5>lot of what the Miami Dolphins do with Tyreek Hill

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 5>into Chiuatwa.

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 6>Interesting comparison. There a lot of coaching changes on the

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 6>coaching staff, I mean the last couple of years, McVeigh

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 6>has flirted with broadcast opportunities. He told coaches, look if

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 6>you want, if you've got an opportunity to go somewhere else,

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.479
<v Speaker 6>feel free and all that sort of thing. Some guys

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 6>I guess took them up on it. But I mean

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:42.280
<v Speaker 6>there as many as nine new coaches. Of those new coaches,

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 6>which one has impressed you or which coaches have impressed you?

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 8>Or has the entire staff impressed you? And jailed early?

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's a tough question.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 12>You know.

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 5>There are definitely some huge guys, and I'd be crazy

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 5>not to bring up a guy who came in as

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 5>a consultant for the offensive line, Mike Munchak, one of

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:05.280
<v Speaker 5>the best in the business, you know, behind Ryan Wendel,

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 5>who I think has done a really good job former

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 5>offensive linemans in the New England Patriots. But I would

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 5>have to say Michael Floor when he's done in all

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 5>of the fire that he had, you know, thrown his

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 5>way last year with the Jets, and how that thing

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 5>kind of blew up in his space and the whole

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 5>Elijah Moore debacle. I'm really impressed with Michaelaflor. This offense

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 5>just seems night and day different than last year, and

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 5>it's taken on almost like a new type of feel.

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 5>They really rebuilt this offense from the ground up. It

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.280
<v Speaker 5>started with Stafford. He definitely got lighter, he lost some weight,

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 5>he's more mobile. But also you can see more balance

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 5>in the run game. And obviously if you saw last week,

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 5>which you know you said you watched the forty nine

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Ers game, you can see them kind of abandon the run,

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 5>but it was more because of the situation they were

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 5>in against the team that you just have such a

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 5>small window of opportunity to beat and when you're down

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 5>in that game, you're gonna.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 7>Have to pass.

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 5>So but all in all, they've really, you know, they

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 5>haven't abandoned the run like they have in the pass.

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 5>That's been one of Sean mcvain's that Philly Fields is

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 5>trying to manage the run and pass. And I think

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 5>since the floors come in with more of the gaps

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 5>teams that we've seen, the more gaps scheme runs, we've

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 5>definitely seen a better balance.

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>A couple more questions for Rams podcaster Jake ellen Bogan.

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>We just heard the news on a Sports Update before

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you joined us on the show that Cam Akers has

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>been traded to the Minnesota Vikings. He was very good

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>against the Bengals in the Super Bowl. He finished last

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>year with a flourish. He had one hundred yards each

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.959
<v Speaker 1>of the last three games last year. What went wrong

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>between Cam Akers and the Rams.

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, it's unfortunate. Anytime you draft a guy

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 5>in the second round to be your running back, you

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 5>would think you're getting the running back of the future.

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 8>A lot of people thought.

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 5>Most two is good, if not better. I never really thought,

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 5>but when Akers took over, it looked like they had something. Well, unfortunately,

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 5>there's been there's been talent there. There's been Darryl Henderson,

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 5>who who was huge in that Super Bowl. You know,

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 5>There's been Sony Michelle, There's been now Hiram Williams. And

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 5>I think Cam is not somebody that wants to share

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 5>the worklace. He's just not somebody that works in today's

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, committee backfield like NFL that we see. And

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 5>so what we saw at the end of last year

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 5>is Cam forced himself in force Darryl Henderson out the door,

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 5>and we saw that emergence in the backfield. However, they

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 5>have changed their offense since he's not quite a fit

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 5>and since they don't trust him in pass protection, they

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 5>didn't trust him in the receiving game. The way they

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 5>did with Tyra Williams. What you found is that first game,

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 5>it was a rude awakening. He's not gonna be a

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 5>fit for this offense. When he was on the field,

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 5>twenty eight snaps to Tyra Williams fifty three twenty one

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 5>out of those twenty eight. Excuse me, he is running

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 5>the football. Defenses know exactly what's coming with number three's

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 5>in there, and so now with number twenty three in there,

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 5>Hiram Williams, the Rams feel like they have the perfect

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 5>back for their offense.

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 6>Well he's put up some numbers, no question about it.

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 6>They have to feel really good about their draft. Fourteen

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 6>draft choices twelve made the football team, five on offense,

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 6>six on defense, and one on special teams, A punter,

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 6>a couple of offensive rookies Nakua Avila, and then one

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 6>defensive Byron Young, I mean making contributions other guys involved

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 6>in rotation. How pleased are they with the youth of

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 6>their football team?

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 8>Oh, they're very pleased.

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 5>I think when you look first off, Steve Avila looks

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.959
<v Speaker 5>like a potential All Pro down the road.

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 8>I know, you know.

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.919
<v Speaker 5>Brian Baldinger has been raving about his tape and it's

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 5>hard not to when you watch it. Just this guy

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.280
<v Speaker 5>is just so beyond his years. He's a natural center,

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:00.959
<v Speaker 5>and they wanted to play him guard because he played

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 5>that one season, uh, moving over to guard when they

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 5>went to the national title game in TCU. Then you

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 5>look at fire and Young and this guy has an

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 5>incredible story from you know, bagging groceries and you know,

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 5>not getting essentially not even having a season because of COVID.

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 5>So then his practices, which his team was still practicing,

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 5>gets out. There is Juco school and Tennessee's calling, and

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 5>so you know, he ends up killing it at Tennessee.

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 5>And this guy's very athletic and he's starting to really

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 5>turn it on in the first two games. I mean,

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 5>we saw one preseason game and Teums said, all right,

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 5>we don't need to see any more of that. We're

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 5>going to make sure you're ready for week one. And

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 5>then Kobe Turner, who some people saw it was a

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 5>little bit of a reach there, has really, you know,

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 5>done a nice job the third round pick in the

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 5>in the interior, he continues to get better and that's

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 5>not even talking like like you said, Pukkua. And then

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.760
<v Speaker 5>of course you mentioned you know, special teamer Ethan Evans

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 5>is just absolutely bombing punts. It's kind of incredible when

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 5>you think about it, that they the way they found him.

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, Chase Blackburn, the special teams coordinator, went out

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 5>and set to him in Carolina. But yeah, it's been

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 5>a really good draft, as good as to be in

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 5>the first two games. Obviously we know about the long

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 5>haul and you know, obviously we were talking and not

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 5>that long ago how great cam Akers could be. So

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.919
<v Speaker 5>things can definitely change. The Rams act to feel really

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 5>good about their class moving forwards.

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Bred at the Rams for finding good players in the

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>draft despite not having a first round pick for the

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.759
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