WEBVTT - Dog the Bounty Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Crime. Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Real Time Crime. I'm your host Leo Lamar, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have with me my favorite sometimes Dmitri Dmitri. That started

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<v Speaker 1>off as like a roller coaster. It was like I

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<v Speaker 1>could feel it was ticking up and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be such a nice introduction, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it flatlined. Well, the thing is that the second I

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<v Speaker 1>said my favorite, I knew you were just going to

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<v Speaker 1>have our remark about that, and I just wasn't prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for it. No, to be honest, that I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to let that go because it's like you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>a cat comes near you, you you don't want to scare

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<v Speaker 1>it off because it won't come back. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>called me favorite, I wasn't going to mention it because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, she won't do it again if I

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<v Speaker 1>make a big deal out of it. And here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like when I never told my sister, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm the favorite because you just make a huge

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<v Speaker 1>deal about it, you know, right, I didn't know you

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<v Speaker 1>had a sister. Well, like I said, anyway, moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll be talking about a lot of in Doble.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh let me rephrase that incredibly insane stories today. The

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<v Speaker 1>first hot topic we'll be talking about is a home

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<v Speaker 1>invasion suspect busted after leaving school assignment in car. The

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<v Speaker 1>next is USPS stopping delivering to a specific neighborhood in

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<v Speaker 1>California after repeated attacks, and then an Only Fans star

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<v Speaker 1>killing her boyfriend allegedly, and then the death of Conrad Roy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you guys have heard about this case. It

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<v Speaker 1>is about the texting suicide case. And lastly, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a very special guest with us today, Dog the Bounty

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<v Speaker 1>Hunters found us even I'm very excited about this, especially

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not sure if you guys remember this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell this dog when he gets here. When

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<v Speaker 1>we started the podcast, it was all about Gabby Petito

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian Laundry, and Dog was a huge part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog We brought Dog in and by we, I mean America.

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<v Speaker 1>He was called in um to come and try to

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<v Speaker 1>track down Brian and so we talked about him early, early,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the maybe the first two or three episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast. So I'm excited to see what he's

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<v Speaker 1>up to. Now we all know that he did just

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<v Speaker 1>get kicked off the Math Singer, So we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>really gentle. Yeah, that's that. That'll that'll rattle anybody. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean truly. I loved his costume, the armadillo so cool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But but when when we talked about Dog early on,

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<v Speaker 1>when he said about the Gabby Petito stuff that was

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<v Speaker 1>he was like to me, he was like somebody. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew he was real, but I never thought, Hey, Dog's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna join us one day and today's that day. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>that day. Look at us, baby, look at us. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we made it all right. So let's jump into our

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<v Speaker 1>hot topics today. First of all, we've got a home

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<v Speaker 1>invasion suspect busted after leaving school assignment in car. It

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<v Speaker 1>just reads like an onion article. A teenager wanted over

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<v Speaker 1>a deadly Las Vegas home invasion was busted after leaving

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<v Speaker 1>his homework in the getaway car. Math homework featuring Camari

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver's name was found in the backpack inside the car

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<v Speaker 1>in March after the suspects crashed into a while outside

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<v Speaker 1>the victim's home and fled on foot. Inside the backpack

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<v Speaker 1>was a school chromebook along with a notebook of schoolwork,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically math work, and in the top right corner of

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<v Speaker 1>the schoolwork, the name Camari Oliver and fifth period were written.

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<v Speaker 1>Cops arrested the eighteen year old at Las Vegas Valley

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<v Speaker 1>High School last week after realizing he had an unexplained

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<v Speaker 1>absence for the last two periods on the day of

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<v Speaker 1>the deadly home invasion. Okay, so, Dmitri, do we think

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually him? Do we think it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a coincidence that his backpack was in the car? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the first first thing is first is it's so stupid

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<v Speaker 1>that it makes you think someone had to have taken

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<v Speaker 1>that to frame them. But it doesn't. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like that. It seems like it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>stupid move. He didn't even say my backpack I've stolen,

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<v Speaker 1>so that eliminates the framing part. That's number one. Number two,

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<v Speaker 1>so he doesn't have any prior criminal history, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if they're going to try him as an adult

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<v Speaker 1>or a juvenile. But the thing is that they're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>will he get away with it? He he allegedly or

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<v Speaker 1>someone in his crew murdered a twenty four year old woman, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so someone needs to go to jail. Right, You don't

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<v Speaker 1>get to just murder, someone burglarized them and then walk

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<v Speaker 1>away scott free. You're eighteen years old. Sounds like you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're not being tried as a juvenile in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. And it's bizarre though, because like the guy

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<v Speaker 1>had his home, like clearly he's not just like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he had his homework, he had it written on top,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had it with him, so clearly he must

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<v Speaker 1>do homework and stuff like that. So it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a cross as to what type of character

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<v Speaker 1>this guy really is. Did he get caught up in something.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it back to the future too, when they came

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like Marty Jr. Come do this thing

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<v Speaker 1>with us, and he just did it and it ruined

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his life or I don't know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to see how what I'm saying. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>been charge with murder, robbery, burglary, and kidnapping. And in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to the backpop backpack cops that they found five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in the getaway car. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>whether he just got wrangled into going with his friends

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, in the car also crashed. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>they caught him. Well, and then got the backpack as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're saying that his attorney is saying that the

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<v Speaker 1>team wasn't involved in the murder, and the evidence is

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<v Speaker 1>going to show that he never went inside the house,

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<v Speaker 1>so he still knew what was going on even if

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<v Speaker 1>he never went into the house. And the girl's boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>was known for selling high end jewelry on Instagram, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that they thought that they would find a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of jewelry. They didn't mean to kill anyone, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there was some sort of gunfire, and now we

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<v Speaker 1>are where we are, and and lives are changed forever

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<v Speaker 1>and and unfortunately ended as well, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and not that hopefully no one that's listening is thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about doing a crime. But it's like, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>you really got to think through what you're doing. Oh listen,

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<v Speaker 1>let's skip two periods. We'll go get some some jewelry

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<v Speaker 1>from this house. We'll have some money. Ship. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know how things are going to play out.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I also like that. It's like, oh, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was his first murder, so does he have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to jail. It's like, yeah, you go, you go

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<v Speaker 1>to jail in the first murder. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>it's the only murder you know, This wasn't It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't even really know these people, did you? You

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<v Speaker 1>just not that that makes it better. It makes it

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<v Speaker 1>worse in my opinion. Actually, actually now it's all bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all really bad. I think he's a I think

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they find the rest of the guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if what will happen is they end up getting

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<v Speaker 1>him to say the rest of the names and then

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<v Speaker 1>giving him a lesser jail sentence. I mean, I usually

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<v Speaker 1>what they what they do, and so I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>what you're eighteen years old? I mean, what's the point

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna you canna hold on to those names? No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna cough him up because as you want, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you hire life in jail, especially if you're your

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<v Speaker 1>thing is that, oh, he didn't know what was happening,

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<v Speaker 1>He never went into the place. If you really think

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<v Speaker 1>you're that innocent, then cough up those names. Yep? Who

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Who are you? Who are you laying down for? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Dmitri, I agree, let's move on to our

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<v Speaker 1>next hot topic. Speaking of who are you laying down for?

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<v Speaker 1>The USPS has laid down there delivery of the mail

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<v Speaker 1>and is stopping service to a certain neighborhood in Santa

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<v Speaker 1>Monica because of repeated tax on mail carrier since January.

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<v Speaker 1>The first incident happened on January nine, when a resident

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<v Speaker 1>living near the intersection of fourteen and Arizona Avenue allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>swung a broomstick at one carrier delivering mail in the

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<v Speaker 1>early evening hours. The carrier was not injured in the

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<v Speaker 1>tech apparently, and then months later, residents recently received notices

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<v Speaker 1>from the USPS informing them that the reservice has hereby

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<v Speaker 1>been suspended to all addresses located in the block of

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen Street. The notice explained that multiple carriers have been

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<v Speaker 1>subjected to assault and threats of assault from an individual

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<v Speaker 1>who has not been located or apprehended. Is this a

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<v Speaker 1>little drastic, It's it's drastic, it's dramatic. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? Right, You're walking to school right as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid? A bully picks on you. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>do you find someone to go with you? The first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you find a broomstick and swinging at swinging

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<v Speaker 1>at him? Right, No, but they should be sending an

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<v Speaker 1>armed police officer on the route, Like, you don't just

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<v Speaker 1>stop delivering to everybody because someone's swinging a broomstick. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, did you that person's wife? Mean no, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you mean got it? Oh because the stopping by the

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<v Speaker 1>house all the time. Sure, yeah, exactly. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening there. You know, maybe maybe you would want

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<v Speaker 1>to swing the broomstick. You know, maybe this has nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with someone not wanting their mail. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why are we swinging the broomstick? That's the first question

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta ask. And by the way, it's there's people everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>like a little office stuff. That's not a terrible neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen in Arizona and Santa Monica. No, it seems too random.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, you should stop serving mail in Venice

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<v Speaker 1>where there are people just out in the streets going crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're talking about a legitimate resident who has an issue,

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<v Speaker 1>so clearly they know which house it is. Right, change

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<v Speaker 1>up the routes, give somebody else that route. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>a personal thing, right, just send an officer, like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't just stop. That's your job. Your job is to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver the mail. And I'm talking about the whole USPS.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't just be like, hey, guys, listen, it

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy windy, so we're not in that in that alley,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're not going to deliver it there anymore. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just come up with something that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>this Obviously I don't want the person to get hurt

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, but this is a little benign. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to identify them. Then identify them, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean their job is to deliver promotional materials. Will

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<v Speaker 1>never open and my tax turns and that's it, which

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<v Speaker 1>I mean someone else will. I won't. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's move on to this next case that

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<v Speaker 1>this is absolutely insane and only van star Corney Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>confronted at a hotel bar over killing her boyfriend. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say, if you have not watched the

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<v Speaker 1>TMZ footage, there are two different videos, one of her

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<v Speaker 1>getting a confronted at this hotel bar, which is confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>her by the way, she's with her dad and this

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<v Speaker 1>other woman is filming her and saying, yeah, you should

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<v Speaker 1>go because you just killed your boyfriend. Yeah you did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so wild. And then the other footage is very shocking,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's wearing a tankini braw let and white pants

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<v Speaker 1>and she's soaked in blood, sitting on the floor and handcuffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually this feels a little Logan Polly to me,

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm just like, why are we posting this on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet? But then I guess, you know, we see

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<v Speaker 1>crazy stuff on the news all the time, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Courtney Clenny, she is years old and she's known

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<v Speaker 1>on social media as Courtney Taylor, was taken to a

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<v Speaker 1>mental institution after Christian Opum Sally was stabbed to death.

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<v Speaker 1>That's allegedly her boyfriend, the cops said. A video has

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<v Speaker 1>now emerged on Instagram showing someone filming a blonde woman

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<v Speaker 1>in the barb of Miami's Grand Beach Hotel Friday night.

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<v Speaker 1>As I told you, she was with her dad and

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<v Speaker 1>they get up and leave after this altercation. The investigation

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<v Speaker 1>into the death is ongoing and she hasn't been arrested

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<v Speaker 1>or charged with a crime. The new footage comes days

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<v Speaker 1>just after Clenny was pictured handcuffed and drenched and blood

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<v Speaker 1>moments after he was stabbed to death. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the footage is on TMC and she's wearing bag basically

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<v Speaker 1>like a crop top, white pants covered in blood. Her

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<v Speaker 1>arm appears to be held back, like she's being handcuffed,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is I'm just this is I'm baffled by

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<v Speaker 1>human beings. Yeah, well, a lot of questions. So was

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<v Speaker 1>she handcuffed? Was that like the police had arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>the scene and she was handcuffed and being detained because

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<v Speaker 1>she was freaking out? I mean did she and how

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<v Speaker 1>did this person like for this person to approach and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, you should go. You just it all

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<v Speaker 1>seems a little right, like why hasn't she been charged yet? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think, well, she'll end up getting charged. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they'll just send her to the mental institutions?

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<v Speaker 1>Say it was insanity. I mean the other thing is

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<v Speaker 1>when you read reports about this, apparently they had violent

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<v Speaker 1>interactions in the past. Some people were even saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that he was trying to take her into some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like human trafficking ring. I mean, it's very confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's always two sides to every story.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish we were talking about Johnny deppany and for

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<v Speaker 1>her today speaking of two sides to every story, where

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't really know who to believe. But in

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<v Speaker 1>a situation like this, it's clear that there were previous arguments,

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<v Speaker 1>previous fights, previous violence which was agreed upon by their friends,

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I think no, I just think it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear that she took matters into her own hands killed

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<v Speaker 1>him and allegedly and whether or not this was a

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<v Speaker 1>moment of temporary insanity or she was she was defending herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people are saying it's self defense. We won't know

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<v Speaker 1>until we get more details. There's a lot that can

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<v Speaker 1>be read into behavior after an event. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>had a problem with Will Smith dancing at his at

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<v Speaker 1>his party, at the Oscar party, in the post Oscar party.

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<v Speaker 1>But this thing if whether you did this or not,

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<v Speaker 1>he was indeed he wasn't fact your boyfriend, right? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is the is she with her dad in like a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel bar, like just fucking laylow for a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you did it or not, I don't get. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get the whatever it is in their brains that says, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay for me to go on and just do

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<v Speaker 1>life normally. Like there's a disconnect there, And to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the scariest thing. I completely agree, you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>we are gonna go to a quick break because our

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<v Speaker 1>guest has arrived and we got to bring him in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. Don't touch that dial. We'll be right back. Friends,

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<v Speaker 1>don't commit a crime while we're waiting for Dog in

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<v Speaker 1>the zoom lobby. I was trying to find a rhyming word,

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't come O k brbeah and we're back, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited to introduce our guests for today.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an honor that he's here. Duane Lee Chapman,

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<v Speaker 1>also known his Dog the Bounty Hunter. You guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>already know him and love him. He's an American television personality,

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<v Speaker 1>a bounty hunter and former bail bondsman. He came to

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<v Speaker 1>international notice as a bounty hunter for his successful capture

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<v Speaker 1>of Max Factor Air Andrew Luster in Mexico in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand three, and the following year was given his own series,

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<v Speaker 1>Dog the Bounty Hunter on A and E. After Dog

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<v Speaker 1>the Bounty Hunter ended, Chapman appeared in A Dog and

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<v Speaker 1>Beth on the Hunt, a similarly format a TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>alongside his wife and business partner, The Late Best Chapman.

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<v Speaker 1>On CMT his series Dogs Most Wanted debut on w

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<v Speaker 1>G in America in late and most recently, he was

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<v Speaker 1>Armadillo on season seven of The Masked Singer Dog. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for coming on the podcast. Hello Dog, you look fabulous? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dog, who are we wearing today? Oh kindness Francia,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh alright, well, let's just hop right to it because

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<v Speaker 1>we and we know we've got a limited amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time with you, and we're so excited you're here today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me. Oh, Dog is a pleasure. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we know we want to get into the crime stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but we really got to talk about the masks singer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Oh you were so great as the Armadilloh,

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<v Speaker 1>we just loved you. How do you feel after coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the show. We know it was probably so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to sing in that costume, right, well, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to walk all your all your senses but smell are

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<v Speaker 1>cut off. You cannot see. That's why the men in

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<v Speaker 1>black lead everyone, not just me. You got boots glued

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<v Speaker 1>into boots. It's my My costume was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>light ones. Was to two hundred thirty sub pounds. Wore

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<v Speaker 1>layers of clothing in case you fall. We are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about that four layers of clothing. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and ten degrees in there. And then they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the mic, and I'm like, well, am I gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pan of mine? Or you've got somebody humming in the background,

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<v Speaker 1>James Brown or something. Oh no, no, no, no, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sing into that microphone, take a deep breath, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's on, Dog Eaton, Like what and of all the

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<v Speaker 1>times in your life when you thought someday, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>dress up as an armadillo and I'm just gonna sing

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<v Speaker 1>in front of an audience, he thought it would be

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<v Speaker 1>more glamorous than this. I bet yes. And every as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned armadillo, every we tried, because we've been guests before,

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<v Speaker 1>Dog Valley Enter, every clue, every shotka, every question was

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<v Speaker 1>a clue. The clue hunter was now the clue giver.

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<v Speaker 1>Adello were armor like I do, bulletroo vest as they're young,

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<v Speaker 1>they're called a puppy. There were a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>The songs, you know, the questions Nick asked me, the

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<v Speaker 1>panel we tried to hint our way to Heaven. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it's a credible show, so you enjoy it

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<v Speaker 1>oh so much. Yes, it's one of the you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's having fun my job, and usually my shows are

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<v Speaker 1>very dangerous. Well this was dangerous too, you could you know?

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<v Speaker 1>One guy said stop right now, you're gonna step off

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<v Speaker 1>the stage. So uh yeah, whoa, it was something And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been a day since, you know, it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's starting to sink in now, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. You're like when the FBI get someone to

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<v Speaker 1>tell on a murder or something, you know how they

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<v Speaker 1>bring in in the mask and you from the gate

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<v Speaker 1>from the hotel route to the studio inside the studio,

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<v Speaker 1>gloves separate to your chin, mask on you. They have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. I'm pretty good at the investigation. Behind the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the valet guys wouldn't tell me. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to find out who am I competing with? You? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>you have no idea. Last night was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw who was there because I'm watching as

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else's, so it is a big deal. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a secret agent man show. It's incredible. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>surprised by some of the people. Oh, yes, I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mean that have been on? Oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted Shaka Khan was. I mean there's some pro singers there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and everyone had a great time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>heard him saying that, what a great time, And I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize, you know, how great of a time it

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<v Speaker 1>really was. Is it bitter sweet to not realize it

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<v Speaker 1>until you're gone? No, it builds up as you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Each time you succeed and get by the next round,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you call it. You get more confidence and

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<v Speaker 1>more encouragement from the staff, and you know, Francis there,

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<v Speaker 1>go baby, go show dog. You get out there. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're just like whoa? You feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>always on the one yard line. I mean it's like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>what a rush? Do you think it's crazy? People thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were Rudy Giuliani? Oh did they? Oh? Did they?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that? Just the internet? Oh who's Rudy? What's his

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<v Speaker 1>Name's a politician in New York? Not important, it's not important.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you feel like you know you might know

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<v Speaker 1>who the last few people are? Oh? No, you hear him?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, they like, oh do you hear him?

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<v Speaker 1>They give me goose bumps. M Oh, I was like, oh, no, wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they are incredible. There are top singers in

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<v Speaker 1>America and in London on this show. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>can they she's saying that. Last night I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>dear Lord, I mean, there there's some good I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see who I bet it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a tie, you think? So? Yes, I guarantee none of

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<v Speaker 1>them can hunt down a criminal like you, though, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to go back to that. Is everyone to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking career change? Are you going back to that? No,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna stick with what I've done for forty some years,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's crab fighting and evolving. And yes, sir, good

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<v Speaker 1>do you think you'll be able to reuse the armadillo

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<v Speaker 1>costume trying to find someone just camouflage in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of something. It's armadillo, also known as the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be amazing. I love. I love that dog

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<v Speaker 1>is intentional because it's God spelled backwards. Yes, years when

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<v Speaker 1>I was fourteen years old, I was named that and

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<v Speaker 1>I got since you bring him up, think you have Easter?

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<v Speaker 1>I got to sing a Christians song and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so. I was in the spirit world system.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there. I never went so stoned in my

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<v Speaker 1>life I was there. It was Oh. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, without a hangover. I was so let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, it was incredible. It was amazing, goose

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<v Speaker 1>bumps floating. I'm like, oh my god, mother, behold I suh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so happy. I was like, what a great thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody could watch and you don't got to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the kids out right, you can't watch tight your head right.

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I love this side of you. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're you're so I mean, you've obviously got

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<v Speaker 1>a great personality, but you're so business when you're rightfully

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<v Speaker 1>so when you're hunting down criminals and people on the run,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that But you were like, you know, you're like

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<v Speaker 1>a kid on on Christmas morning here talking about this Diggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to know one brother, I can already tell you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something that I once I opened my mouth

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<v Speaker 1>and stuck in my pootos I sometimes do with not

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<v Speaker 1>using now with Francy, I said I'll do it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I chose yes, right, So I knew that I was

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<v Speaker 1>obligating again, especially when you get out there and they

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<v Speaker 1>shoved you and say go, what do you do? Go?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it? No, you can't do that. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was it's really really a fun show. My celebrity friends,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a few have been called me this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>going dog, How do you get on the job? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I get a convention? Everybody's like whoa man? And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't say now stop. You gotta see you gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>able to perform. You gotta walk around this rim and

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<v Speaker 1>pound suit. This is a tough stuff. You're isolated you.

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<v Speaker 1>They isolated us. Even the delivery guy couldn't see us.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, you're not existent, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really uh tight tight bit. Did you feel nervous

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<v Speaker 1>when you would go on stage? I just assumed someone

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<v Speaker 1>like you who's trying to hunt down convicted felons and

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<v Speaker 1>murderers and all these terrible people. You're also just going

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<v Speaker 1>on stage in front of, you know, thousands of people,

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<v Speaker 1>singing in a costume. But did that make you more

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<v Speaker 1>nervous than going and finding criminals? Oh so much more?

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<v Speaker 1>When you're when I'm feeling my show, you can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>the guy I missed the shot? Can we tell you again?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's real? But you can you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>stick your finger in your nose or something, or your

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<v Speaker 1>ear you can would you please cut that? You can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that right and because the lawyers, we can't cut much.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is no cutting. This is if you got it,

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<v Speaker 1>flaw on it, if you don't get out. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, no, this is I would never do

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<v Speaker 1>this again. It was so uh, non customary to me

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<v Speaker 1>to dance around. I've got a lot of kids and

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<v Speaker 1>invited dance and say that'd be like they head, please stop.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just incredible. So now that you're back

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<v Speaker 1>to so you're going back to your regular career, right,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you do? You? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>already picked? Like what are you off to now? Or

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<v Speaker 1>does something? Do they come to you or do you

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<v Speaker 1>just say you know? This seems similar to the Brian

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<v Speaker 1>laundry case where you were like people were like we

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<v Speaker 1>need dog and you were like dogs on it? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there something that you just like seeing You're like that

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<v Speaker 1>they need me on that? Or do they come to you?

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<v Speaker 1>How does that work? I'm glad you're asking me. So

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<v Speaker 1>for about three years because Betson happened. Now this is

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the third year and Francis former husband and having four

0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>years we took off. I couldn't work. I had to

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>be right there all the time. Uh, we're back. We

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>grieved so hard. We're back. Okay, so we're right now.

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>We're doing a show called Dog, the Bounty Hunter and

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the Essentials, and that is for those are guys and

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>girls that have either retired like they the Fens retired

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you in your early fifties. The Bible says you don't

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>get wisdom and knowledge till in the fifties and gaining

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>These guys are incredible. A couple of my kids are

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>in it. And we're going after people that pedophiles. We're

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>going after wanted guys that killed girls. Remember we just

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 1>found two bodies. We got down there with Brian Laundry.

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>We brought all that media that case. Believe me, also,

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>as you know, is not over. But uh, we gotta

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>make a difference now. So we got I did. I'm

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>doing an n f T. I just joined the sand Box.

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>We're doing uh Simon and Schuster. We're doing a new

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>book that uh this Dog has nine lives and still counting.

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, things are happening out because we're back to work.

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>My Franchie is very spiritual and so am I, and

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 1>she's supervising me and I just it's just incredible. So

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 1>as long as I stay busy like that and things

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>going on, you know, then I'm happy. Because I worked

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>hard on some of the mounties. You've got to go

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty four thirty six hours without drugs and barely coffee.

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>You gotta, you know, So to work hard like that

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and to get a good reward at the end of

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that work is worth it. That's what I do it for.

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>And I used to box, right, and I didn't like

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>hitting that much kind of but I didn't like to

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>get hit. But the cheer of the crowd and I

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>walked in and I got done. Yeah, dog done. Oh

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 1>that's what I love. I don't know what that's called,

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>but and the mass singer they were cheering me go,

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 1>dog you go. When you bring a fugitive and the

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>mother that's his mother or the grandma or the thank

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 1>you dog, I live for that. I don't know. There

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.919
<v Speaker 1>must be some kind of something about it, but I

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>just live for for that. Yeah, I relate to that.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm a stand up comedian and so anytime the audience

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>laughs or applaudse, I just feel like I've done a

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>service or I've done my job. And it feels so

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>good to be of service to other people. I just

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>wanted to quickly go back to your n f T

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>because I'm super into the crypto web three space. Are

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you doing a full collection? And when is it? When

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>do you plan to drop? Yes, they're dropping soon. And

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the sad box too. This is amazing. Okay,

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and there and they're your age. Is that impolite to

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>say to you? With each generation biblically and we see

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>get smarter. So then you guys are incredible that some

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff you're doing. So we're jumping in there

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>in Francis. It's great. We love it because you get

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>your message out and people have fun. You know, people

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>can stand at the line and the bank and and

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>play it. We're doing a video game now where kind

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of like Jimunji, where you push the button you see

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>what the things are, what the criminals weakness, sar is

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you know how not to be a victim? You know,

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>park across street from a bank, don't park across the

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>street from you know, a different liquor store. I mean,

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>there's so many things. Watch it when you pull up

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to a when you got your little sticker for a

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Handicap signed because that's the first car the criminals hit.

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a lot of things that will be

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>able to do with with the new the metaverse and

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and the video game and f t S and all that. Well,

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, Snoop Dogg loves Sandbox. I feel like you

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>two should do a collaboration, Snoop dog the bounty Hunter.

0:29:54.480 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Listen ideas you have, uh, you have discernment, sister. We're

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>working on that right now. Why people with Snoop people?

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>We he wanted to go on a bounty with me

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and we were going to do the celebrity right along

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and Snoop said to me, I double dog Darren to run. Yeah,

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you two on a show together. Is already an instant hit. Yes,

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>absolutely instant hit. Wow. I can't believe that I called this.

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Rolling up to a crime scene in his his Laker mobile,

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I could see that that's who you're getting out, like

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Starsky and Hutch he's smoking a joint. Yeah, and you

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>imagine the guys, you know, doing something whatever like Stallone

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>lost his son. I mean there's a lot of things,

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>uh that that different celebrities. You put them in the

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>back seat, ride with the fugitive. You need to change

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>your life right now, you know, Charlie Sheen, I did

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Look where it lad snoop DOGG do it?

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Or you've got a problem. I mean they're you know

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that right there is very compelling and I like to

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you know all, I like to do that. Well, going

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 1>back to something you said, by the way, because I

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>have been obsessed with the Gabby Petito Brian laundry case.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>That's actually why we started this podcast, and so we

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>referenced you some point episodes one through three because we

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>were so excited that you got on the case. We

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>were like dogs going to solve this. You know, this

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>case had America by the heartstrings. We were all just

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>waiting every day for new information. So I don't know

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>what you can tell us, but I've never felt settled

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>about this case. Well, we're amazing to say that we

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>should have my people get with your people because we're

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>doing a dog cast. When La launching and we hooked

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>up together, I got footage in the Brian laundry hunt

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:56.959
<v Speaker 1>that no one else has got. So and I started

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>out by saying, this is not what dog says, this

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>is what the camera says. Okay, So we well, I

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>know there's something there, but you know, there's so many

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>diff Now he's suicide. He was right handed, shot himself

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to the left hand. There are so many things that

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>don't look good. So we're gonna, you know, put that

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>on one of the wedding and then that the Brian

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>laundry thing. How sad because you know, I lost a

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>daughter at the same age as Gabby were Francy and

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I went to her honeymoon. I was a hundred miles away,

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know it. Francis from Florida. So we went

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>back there to be in the beach. She's like, you

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>promised me the beach in the sand, not the swamp

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and the gators. So I mean she she stopped the

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>honeymoon to go down there. It was god Land as

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>soon as we hit there. The media game things. You know,

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of fans, I love a lot

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of people, and we needed that. We needed you know,

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the brother here is His sister said, oh, I haven't

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>seen him, and Franzie and I ran a real simple

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>thing and found out that he'd been in the park.

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It's his picture in the back of the truck when

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>they come in, and you know, a lot of those

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>things were never really developed because there's something going on there. Okay,

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>so uh yeah we're and that's the cases we're getting

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>into right now. Is those kind of and I've always

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>been big brother, you've better watching. Can't talk about about

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the cops, but the truth, they are so busy. One

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>gets on the case with you on the phone, you

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>start brainstorming. He gets a call domestic violence. I'll be

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>back an hour, dog two hours. It takes. He's coming

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>a kid missing at school, He's got to go there.

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>They are so understaffed and so busy. Even when they

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>got enough staff that to do something that's already been there,

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>done that, they can't do it. So that's why it

0:33:54.680 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>takes citizens with criminal justice experts behind them and lawyers

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>and know what they're doing to help them out. Okay,

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Sometimes I have found the perp called

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the competence that he's in the house guinea to let

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>them have the glory the ero walk. Right, I only

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>catch a bad guy and if I get to share

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>with the cop the glory the ero walk, I love

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 1>that because the and that's the thing, it's it's like

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>what you said is, yes, they're busy and they have

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>all this other stuff going on. That's why when people

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>were like stop whatever, you know, what do you how

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about like TikTok people, they were like, oh,

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>stop with your theory, stop with it. I think the

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>more evidence that people can throw out there, and the

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>more theories that people can throw out there, have someone

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that weeds through it. I'm not saying that that I

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>don't the cops don't look it and say, well, it's

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta be this, Like they're all scatter brained, they know

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing, but they're overwhelmed. So I think the

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>more people that can dig stuff up or throw theories

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>out there or you know, people are fantastic now on

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>TikTok and on the Internet where they can zoom in

0:34:55.360 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>on something. Granted that flowerbed thing probably nothing but fascinating. Well,

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, the fans don't have and I

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is a bad word, Internet sloops

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>don't does. And we got today last night we were

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>talking to Katie. We have fifty five hundred leads every

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>three days, another one every day, three leads come in

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:23.280
<v Speaker 1>again about Brian laundry. We left that so the fans

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>can afford that they don't have someone to man the phone.

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 1>You call the FETs, try to leave a message. You know,

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to give me. They're so security number.

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>We pay cash on delivery for the information. We don't

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>gotta call crime stoppers. You know. There's a lot of

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>things that we do that their hands are bound that

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they can't do. They can't boot a door if they

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>know he's in there, we can't, you know. So there's

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that uh and now in again

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>forty some two or three years in the beginning, you know,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 1>they were like my foe right which ones that fell

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and out? They both are Now I'm brother Dog, and

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 1>that makes me feel good because I have proven to

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 1>them that I'm a good guy with a black cat,

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So it's it's incredible, and

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>this is why we are team Dog. Yeah, team Dog

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>for life. We love you. I mean, I wish we

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>had more time with you. I mean, I just I

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>guess I have one final question, is you know you've

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 1>seen and heard everything. I mean, if there's anyone on

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the planet that has seen and heard it all to you,

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>has there been anything in your many seasons of successful

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>television and all of the hunts you had off camera.

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you've seen that is the wildest moment

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that you felt that you actually witnessed. I didn't witness it,

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>but to arrest the guy that did a very bad

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>thing to a seven month old baby. Now, I don't

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>want to get to spiritual, but there's evil and then

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>there's demonic possession. You gotta be full of something, demons

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I call it. You walk into king supers and open

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>up and see women and men dying and screaming for

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>God and their mother, and laugh and shoot again. Those

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>are the guys were going after. That's what I have

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>seen more than I ever have ever is you know,

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you're very young, but you were probably around when the

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>first McDonald's shooting happened. That was the first one ever.

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Now what is it? One a day in a shopping

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>center or something, you know what I mean? So the

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>demonic spread of evil and it's not us. The demonic

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>spread of evil is around. But and to be right

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>with God on the flip side of that, you normal,

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>non spiritual way, there's got to be a power of

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>God just as strong. And that's why I call it's

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>supernatural it's really there. I've seen a lot of that

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.799
<v Speaker 1>where I haven't seen before. I've seen a lot of

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>pastors now and supernatural believers that getting these combinations from

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>God how to get things done. I've never you know, uh,

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that. It's incredible, what God, it's it's

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I don't want to sound like

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>a preacher, because I'm not. But we are truly living

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>in the last days. And but we can, you know,

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>we can triumph it. Just you know, we got to

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>keep COVID all this stuff. Oh dear Lord, imagine we

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>were a Urico dog. We love you. You're incredible. Thank

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 1>you for doing the Lord's work. You We we need

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>more people like you. And if you ever want a

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>uny Jewish woman to come along for a right along,

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>please invite me. I'm dying to come. Thank you. Yeah,

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy your enjoy your Armadillo moments in life. But

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>don't stop doing what you're doing because it's it's impressive

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and needed. And listen after Armadillo and the best here.

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:19.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, forty years bro, I've arrest in eight thousand,

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I've probably bragged the number one crime guy in America

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 1>out of solvement. How to stop it? Yeah, educate, don't

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and Carson rat. I mean, there's so many things that

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I've seen work and things that I haven't. Please remember

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>my my people and call me if you need me.

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.919
<v Speaker 1>I'll be right there. Be careful what you wish for. Yeah,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I will, and I will be purchasing your n f

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.800
<v Speaker 1>T and looking out for you in sandbox. Thank you, Helloa,

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:53.720
<v Speaker 1>thank you, God bless thank you, thank you. I feel

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>like I need like go to a spot that was wild,

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>that was so are you guys not shook? Yeah, a

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit, it was. It's quite a roller coaster, quite

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>an event. I mean, I'm I'm very interested to hear

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 1>what he knows about Brian laundry that we don't know.

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I know he did he I saw your eyes light

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>up when he said that's not over and and he

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>could just mean that there's the suing going on, but

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like and he said, we have stuff footage

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that people don't have of you. He knows something and

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll be interested to hear what it is. And he

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.359
<v Speaker 1>said that they keep getting tips every day. I mean,

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I really do think that people are, you know, not

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 1>over the fact that he might have run away or

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 1>he's he's not really dead or and you know that

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 1>used to be my theory, but obviously I'm over that one.

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But I do think when he said, you know he

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>can he was right handed and he was shot in

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the left temple. I I think about that constantly. I'm like,

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>who killed Brian Laundry? Was it one of the parents?

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Was a like a assistant suicide? Was it? You know?

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's so many aspects and play that

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>we really just don't have enough information about. Agreed, And

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's so difficult to shoot a gun that

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to do that with your non dominant hand and have

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it be without a reaction, have it be where you

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.320
<v Speaker 1>needed to be. There's Yeah, it seems interesting. It's a

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>little suspect. So this guy that I was dating, it's

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a weird go on. I'm here. Maybe he loves guns.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'll come with you to go get one.

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a cooling off period after you try

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>to get a gun, or they make you wait ten

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>days before you can go back and get it. I

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you know that the same thing with

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>dating for you, and yeah, wait ten days and then

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I always go back I know that don't learn anything,

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>so and he was trying to show me how to

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>put a bullet into the gun, to load the gun,

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was physically so difficult to actually put the

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>bullets into the gun. I mean, there's everything having to

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>do with guns. I think people don't realize how complicated

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>they are and how difficult it is. So then to

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>do everything with your non dominant hand right is very confusing.

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion. That's the problem is that guns are

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 1>so difficult to operate this and yet somehow these so

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 1>many morons and ship heads find a way to get

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>them and operate them. And welcome back to real time crime.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.439
<v Speaker 1>You just heard us with Dog, And then of course

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Dmitri and I had to give our two cents about

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.240
<v Speaker 1>guns and brand laundry because that's who we are inside.

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's time for us to talk about

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>our main case of the day. Demitri A you ready,

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. I mean, it's gonna be tough, pretty tough

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to dissect this thing without Dog. But now I feel

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>like I wish you seen another level. I mean, no offense,

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I do wish we got his opinion on literally everything

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:03.959
<v Speaker 1>from today and all ways in every episode. I wish

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>he was on the podcast. He wouldn't be sometimes dog,

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>he would be all the time. Dog. Yeah. I don't

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 1>think i'd get to speak, and I'd be okay with that.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you love how much he called me young constantly?

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I know you did. I don't know what clips will

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>be on social media, but if there's a clip of

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you smiling when he calls you young, I think people

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>will get it. Because I was like, here, we get

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>he said it a couple of times. It's like, Okay,

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>come on, dog, You're really going to hurt us in

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.399
<v Speaker 1>the long run. She doesn't. I know that when people

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.240
<v Speaker 1>look at me, they think I'm eighteen, but I'm actually

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. M okay. So I just want to say

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>trigger warning suicide. I mean, honestly, this whole episode is

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>a trigger warning. But this case, specifically, it's the death

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>of Conrad Roy. I'm sure you've been hearing about it

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.760
<v Speaker 1>because there are multiple TV shows about it now. There's

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>ABC and Who Lose the Girl for Plainville, and they're

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>both about the same case. So Conrad Henry Roy the

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>third was an American teenager who died by suicide at

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the age of eighteen and fourteen, his girlfriend, then seventeen

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 1>year old Michelle Carter, encouraged him in text messages to

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>kill himself. The case was the subject of a notable

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>investigation and involuntary manslaughter trial in Massachusetts, colloquial known as

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the texting suicide case. Michelle Carter made headlines in fifteen

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>when a mass Chusets judge ruled that her words through

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>texting and phone calls coerced eighteen year old Roy into

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>dying by suicide. She was sentenced to fifteen months in prison,

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>which she sure served from February twenty nineteen to January

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty She got released three months early due to good conduct,

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 1>so Michelle Carter twenty five has been seen for the

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:52.800
<v Speaker 1>first time since being released from jail January. Her story

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 1>has been dramatized in the Hulu series The Girl from

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Plain Bill with l Fanning playing Carter, Colton Ryan playing

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Conrad Roy, and Chloe seven A how do you say

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>your last name? Is that? How you say it? I thought,

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>A seven, I think that's very fancy. This is We're

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>going to get the bomb of this crime playing Lennroy,

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Conrad's mother. In addition to the Girl From playing Bill,

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Carter and Roy story has also been covered inbo documentary

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I Love You Now Die The Commonwealth Verse Michelle Carter,

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>woof Last week ABC revisited the texting suicide trial. So

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure a lot of people have already heard about

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:43.320
<v Speaker 1>this case. And this boy was very beloved. He was

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>an all around good kids, smart, family oriented, surrounded by friends.

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Was even mentioned how he got his captain license to

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>go out on their family boat with his dad and grandfather.

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 1>He never wanted to failed anything, but apart from having

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>a seemingly good life, he appeared and he had a

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>battle with his mental health, and he had attempted suicide before.

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>He did have issues, and he got help for it

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and he came out the other side. And when they

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.439
<v Speaker 1>found out that he took his own life, they didn't

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>believe it's because he wanted to die, but rather it

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>was a cry for help. And this is such a

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:25.879
<v Speaker 1>tragic story. I think. I think some people think that

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 1>she should be a free woman Michelle um and and

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>some people say they were surprised she even got eleven months,

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>which is crazy to me. I think emotionally, you want

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>her because it was decided and with your own eyes

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>and ears, it seems like she certainly didn't play the

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 1>role that he needed in this right she put and

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 1>part of it was, didn't they say that she she

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted the attention of being like the grieving girlfriend that

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>was kind of allegedly what what kind of what she

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>was doing is for for attention and stuff like that. Clearly,

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>if he's battling with mental mental health and and he

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>had kind of been righting himself and trying to deal

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>with it and she comes in and not the person

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>he needed in his life. Um, but yeah, you could

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>see that. I guess in one way, it is lucky

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that she did any time at all because she didn't

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>commit the crime, But so there was a lot of

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.840
<v Speaker 1>gray area in there. So I think that's the big question.

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Was Michelle in any way responsible for Conrad taking his

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>own life? Because I guess at the end of the day,

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>it was still his decision, is what people are saying.

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>And online bullying is so prevalent now. I'm just grateful

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't grow up with you know, Instagram when I

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>was in middle school, because I probably would have lost

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 1>my mind over all the online bullying and the fake

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:47.879
<v Speaker 1>accounts and people can say anything, but when you read

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the chain of transmission between them and their texts. She's

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>she's saying do it, do it, or do it or

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll get you help. It's like, just get him help.

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Why are you She's like, oh baby, you can't live

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>like this? Oh what? Yeah, that's that's not the words

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of someone that that truly cares about somebody that's going

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 1>through some problem. Maybe she would claim that she was

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to, like, you know, give him an ultimating, but

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not the the area that you play

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>around with that. No, she even said last night, was it.

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.360
<v Speaker 1>You keep pushing it off and you say you'll do it,

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 1>but you never do. It's always going to be that

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>way if you don't take action, you're just gonna make

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>it harder on yourself by pushing it off. You just

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 1>have to do it. Do you want to do it now? Yeah?

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Like and and these are I mean, it goes on

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 1>and on and on and on, and you can read.

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I suggest that you look it up and make a

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>decision for yourself how you feel whether you think that

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:51.479
<v Speaker 1>she's responsible, partially responsible, fully responsible, I mean the text

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 1>or bizarre. She's like, I love you, Are you gonna

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>do it now, like what, It's so bizarre because clearly

0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 1>not the words of someone that truly loves, that loves

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 1>him and is concerned about him. So well, like I said,

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a shame, it's terrible all around. But

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he needed help and this is someone

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that was close to him, that he thought probably did

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>love him or did care about him, and these are

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the words that he's getting them from the most from

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:18.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, his family as a as a father, myself,

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>like his family afterward, knowing that someone was doing this

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to him, probably I don't know what the relationship was

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:26.359
<v Speaker 1>with her and the family, but they probably thought, oh,

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it's his girlfriend. She's there, she's another level of support.

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about the family or that connection,

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>but to look back on that now has got to

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>be just like it was right there in front of you.

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.319
<v Speaker 1>That's why people say, do you look at your kids

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:41.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff and you know, you know, read their text or

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>And granted he's eighteen, so it's a different it was

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a different story. But it's so interesting

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>when you said that, it triggered me because I remember

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking I had no privacy as a kid, and I

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 1>was such a good kid, and my mom was looking

0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.839
<v Speaker 1>or I felt like I was looking for problems, or

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was her way of getting closer to me,

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>or but there was never any reason for concern mhm.

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>And that still is something that I constantly feel frustrated by,

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, do I have my privacy? Is anyone

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 1>looking through my stuff? But it's then you go into

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 1>situations like this where I'm sure if his parents saw

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.919
<v Speaker 1>these text messages, they would have taken him and gone

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.840
<v Speaker 1>him help immediately, you know. And you can see in

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:29.359
<v Speaker 1>the text messages he's talking about how you know, he's

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 1>out with his family getting ice cream, or he's out

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>he's doing something with his family, and she's like, well,

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you got to do it when you're done, and you know,

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:40.360
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I don't, I don't know. I'm getting nervous

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>because I just I don't know what's going to happen

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to my family, Like he loved his family, and she's like,

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I told you, I'll take care of them. It'll be fine.

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the the amount of evil that you have

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:57.280
<v Speaker 1>to have to to even whatever whatever reason, alleged reason,

0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason she was doing it for, there's no there's

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>no excuse for it. It's it's not when you know

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 1>someone struggling, that's not the approach you take. And I

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>do believe, and I remember hearing that. I do believe

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 1>it was more about attention. Oh, she's going to play

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the role of the grieving girlfriend, clearly not loving herself more,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly loving herself more than him or anything else. I mean. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, I believe she was a factor in

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<v Speaker 1>his death, you know, because there was no if you

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<v Speaker 1>break up with me, I'll kill myself. Because it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like she wanted him to kill himself so she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be with him. She could have just broken

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<v Speaker 1>up with him, you know, there's like and then the

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<v Speaker 1>blame would have been on her. Then she wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been able to play that role she wanted to play either.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she just think no one was going to see

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the messages? He even says like did you delete these?

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're talking about deleting the messages? You know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just so upsetting. And I mean, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that when a case like this gets made into

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show that it glorifies it or does it

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<v Speaker 1>bring it awareness or both? I think as long as

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<v Speaker 1>things are done a certain way, I don't think. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not as alarmed by glorifying stuff. I think, obviously you

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 1>can glorify something and make it look like especially for

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 1>younger minds and and uh and influencing people. But I'm

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's better to be aware. But that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read things. I'll read news stories that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to read, but I read them because you can

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<v Speaker 1>take something from them, and you can learn something. The

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<v Speaker 1>more you are aware you are of things, the more

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<v Speaker 1>you can be, the more you can prevent them. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So stuff like you said about privacy, you were a

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<v Speaker 1>good kid, you didn't really do anything. But you know what,

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:37.839
<v Speaker 1>sometimes kids, especially getting this moment and they think, oh,

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 1>this is this is this is only happening to me

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:42.799
<v Speaker 1>and this is only my life, and things get so

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>put under a microscope and they don't realize that a

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of people go through bullying a lot and there's

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:50.280
<v Speaker 1>people out there that go through the same things and people.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think support groups and knowing stuff is an

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<v Speaker 1>easier way to help people. So I'm not concerned with

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the TV shows, and I assume that they're not taking

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a glorifying stance to it. No. I mean the other

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 1>thing about television shows is it does bring more awareness

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to it in my opinion, you know, and then it

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 1>helps other people in the future. That's That's what a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of entertainment is is bringing awareness so that people

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, oh, that happened to someone else. Well, now

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel so alone, or this isn't so uncommon,

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:26.279
<v Speaker 1>or this is the way, or this is something I

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 1>should be looking out for. There are a multitude of

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>ways that it's actually extremely beneficial. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they did it with the Anadelte case, they did

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<v Speaker 1>it with a tender swindler. It's like, if you don't

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 1>put that information out there, of course, the tender swindlers now,

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like signed with a SiGe and or whatever.

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:45.319
<v Speaker 1>That's different, of course. But now people are aware that

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 1>this sort of thing can happen and they should be

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:49.000
<v Speaker 1>on the lookout, you know. And it's like if a

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<v Speaker 1>if a guy started asking me for twenty dollars or

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:53.919
<v Speaker 1>open credit, I would be like, m you have seen

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<v Speaker 1>this before and it's going to be a no for me. Dog,

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.240
<v Speaker 1>But not I would never say no. Dog. The bounty

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 1>hunter obviously obviously thousand times yes to him that how

0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 1>many times can I say yes? You know? And wow,

0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:14.279
<v Speaker 1>this has been a wild episode today. Yeah, but there's

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of and to be honest, it's funny. I

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 1>almost feel bad putting that thing in here because you

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>look at all these other things and you're like, get

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.359
<v Speaker 1>your ask back out there and deliver the mail or

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:25.839
<v Speaker 1>figure it out post office. You don't stop delivering mail

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 1>because of one thing that irritated me, Like all this

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>other ship going on, it's like whoa, someone swung a broomstick.

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Figure it out. You don't just stop doing what you're doing.

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Imagine if dog was like, WHOA, this is dangerous, I'm

0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:37.000
<v Speaker 1>not going to do go do this, he said, He's

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 1>what arrested like eight thousand people or help bring them in. Yeah,

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 1>the littlest hardship. It's like, I'm sorry that there was

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>one witch in Santa Monica who needed to take off

0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to get to their next destination and you were in

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<v Speaker 1>the way. Get over it, right, Get over it anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. If you've been listening to the podcast and

0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you love us, make sure to leave us a review

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:03.240
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0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:07.719
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0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:11.480
<v Speaker 1>if you think there's a case that we're missening that

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you'd like us to look into. Let me know if

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you think that Michelle Carter was involved or not involved

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:21.359
<v Speaker 1>in the death of Conrad Roy and you know that,

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you can leave us a voicemail. You know you can

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 1>write at you could, you could. You could tell us

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:34.280
<v Speaker 1>things like, oh, hey, did you check out the black Dahlia?

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Of course you know I did, but you know, give

0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:39.720
<v Speaker 1>me a case I haven't heard of. Or you could say, hey, listen,

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I know a case personally, what do you think about this?

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Or a tip hotline, you know, whatever you want phill

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<v Speaker 1>us in. Just don't ask me on a date. I'm

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 1>just I'm not I'm not ready, okay, But you could

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 1>leave a voicemail asking her our day too. We'll play

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it and have a little fun. Not fun, you're expensive,

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 1>but just fun. Expensive at eight six crime that's eight

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<v Speaker 1>six six twent anyone come eight six six to anyone time?

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.799
<v Speaker 1>That's eight six six two and two seven four six three?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Leo, will you go out with me? Oh? Dear lord,

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 1>it'll make you so uncomfortable. Leave those messages will be

0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 1>so happy. I'll be like, yeah, someone loves me. Okay,

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 1>that's very sad. That's so sad, Dmitri. We can't do

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<v Speaker 1>podcast this early again, all right. You can find me

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:30.960
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and Twitter at Leo Lamar with two RS

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and show dates at Leo Lamar dot com and my

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.400
<v Speaker 1>TikTok's Lee Lamar with five RS, although it does have

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<v Speaker 1>another content violation, so who knows how long I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok. You, guys, stay safe out there in those streets. Dmitri,

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<v Speaker 1>where can we find you on the internet at Dmitri

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 1>pappas d E M E t R I p A

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<v Speaker 1>P p A S or just look for the tag

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<v Speaker 1>in the real time Crime account account. I love that

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Okay, guys, stay safe, stay warm wherever you

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 1>are in the world, and don't commit any crimes. Be

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<v Speaker 1>you next time. I love your bye. It's real time ground.

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:13.359
<v Speaker 1>It's real time ground. I mean, is it actually real

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<v Speaker 1>time crime or I'm solving anything or is that just

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing we say? It's a thing we say, got it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>see you next week for more real time crime only

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<v Speaker 1>on I Horror Radio.