1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: We have Alex Stone. He's in Idaho because today was 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: the day that Brian Coberger officially got sentenced and friends 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: and family were able to issue their victim impact statements 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: and some of the family members really went at Coburger. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: If you remember, he's stabbed to death. Three University of 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: Idaho women, Madison Mogan, Kaylei Gonkalva's Zana Canoodle and a 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: boyfriend Ethan Chapin. Let's get let's get to Alex Stone 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: and talk about what he saw had heard today at 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: the hearing. Alex, how are you hey? 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: They're John doing well? 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: So yeah. 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: Really, there were two kind of different moods among the 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: family members. There were those who were more retrospective and 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: looking at the emotional side of it and looking back 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: at the victims and what the families went through. One 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: of the surviving roommates, Dylan Mortenson, as she spoke and 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: talked about that, she said, he shattered me in ways 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: that I didn't know I could break. That She slept 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: in her mom's bedroom after this because she was afraid 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: to close her eyes, that she would wake up and 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: open her eyes and there would be a killer there. 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: She is one of the two roommates. She's the one 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: who saw the killer that night, described him as tall 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: and skinny. She just saw a figure in the darkness, 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: shadowy eyes, deep in set eyes, big bushy eyebrows. Up 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: until now until is guilty plea. His team has claimed 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: that that was not a reliable witness, that what she 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: described him, that that wasn't him. That's almost him to 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: a t, how she described him, what she saw that night. 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: But she told just a devastating account of how her 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: life has changed since these murders, and that she can't sleep, 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: she can't live her life. The other side, like the 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: Gonzalez family, they were angry. They don't like this deal. 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: They wanted this to go to trial. They wanted him 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: to get the death penalty, which here in Idaho come 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: next year, will be the firing squad as the main 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 3: method for the death penalty here. They wanted him to 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: have to go through all the testimony and everything else. 41 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: So they're mad. And Steve Gonzaldez, he turned the podium, 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: the lectern right to Coburger and spoke trying to make 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: eye contact with him, just directly going after him. And 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: then Kaylee Cancelvans, his sister, got up and I mean 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: just said all kinds of things going into him, saying 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: that you are You're not good at anything you do, 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: You're a coward, you're pathetic, you're a loser, your average, 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: You're basic. I see right through you. Then her mom 49 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: got up and essentially said, I'm looking forward to seeing 50 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: what the other inmates do to you in prison. So 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: as you had some more very emotional and sad and 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: then the Consulvans family and some other family members one 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 3: other and uncle talked about I would like to take 54 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: you out in the woods. He said, I wouldn't kill you, 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: God would do that, but I want to take you 56 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 3: out into the woods. And so a lot of anger 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: among the family members. 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: What did I think? I know the answer? What did 59 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: Culberger dud? You're in all this? 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: He didn't do anything. He was described to me by 61 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: somebody in the courtroom with us that this was the creepiest, 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: eeriest they had ever seen him. He sat looking straight 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: ahead the entire time. There was one little smirk at 64 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: one point when one of the family members made a 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: comment against him. Saying that he's no good and isn't 66 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: worth anything. But you know, the one thing they wanted 67 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: was a motive. And President Trump had gone on social 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: media saying, you know, judge, make him give you a motive. 69 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: That don't let him get away without telling it. The 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: judge did not have the legal ability to do that. 71 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: This was not part of the plea deal that was made. 72 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: That he was going to have to beyond admitting to 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: the crime, explaining the crime, and explaining why he did it. 74 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: And police and prosecutors they said they'll probably never know. 75 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: They still don't know. You know, I thought maybe they 76 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: knew behind the scenes with a gag order in place, 77 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: they don't know. But the judge said it doesn't matter. 78 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: Whatever Coberger says is going to be a lie. That 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: there's no way he can justify killing four college students, 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: that there is nothing that he can say that matters. 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: And the judge said, legally he can't compel him to 82 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: do it, and it wouldn't matter anyway. 83 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: Can you can't? Can you put that in a plea 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: agreement to force someone to speak? 85 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: They could have made it a plea in the agreement. Yeah, 86 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: And the Conservants family wanted that in the deal, but 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: the deal was already done and prosecutors did not put 88 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: it in there, and they also thought it would probably 89 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: derail the deal. 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, often you're dealing with a psychopath with 91 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: a weird obsession or compulsion. There is no why. He's 92 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: just mentally very it very sick. I mean, there is 93 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: there is no rational reason for this he's got. 94 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: That's exactly what the judge said today, that that he 95 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: knows that there are people who are demanding that he 96 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: get up and explain why he did it, where the 97 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: murder weapon is, all of those things that they want 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: to know. But the judge said, it doesn't matter that 99 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: everything coming out of his narcissistic mouth would be a lie, 100 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: and it wouldn't matter. 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not driven by reason. I find it 102 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: fascinating about human nature. People demand reasons. I understand why, 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: but that's not the way the human brain always works. 104 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: People can have obsessions and compulsions that make zero sense, 105 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: and it drives them to do, you know, ghastly things. 106 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's the root of a lot 107 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: of these cases. And unless you have that. 108 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: I mean, essentially, I mean that's what we saw today 109 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: and then the judge said, that's why it doesn't matter 110 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: if you know, if he were to speak or not, 111 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: and and Coberger had the legal right he could have spoken. 112 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: But the only words he said in court today was 113 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: I respectfully declined when he was asked if he was 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: going to speak. 115 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: So's there's no dangling issues here. There's no appeals, There's 116 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: there's no nothing. 117 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 3: I mean, technically he's given up his right to appeal, 118 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: but under the Supreme Court he still has forty two 119 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: days to file some appeals if he wants to. But 120 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: as part of the plea deal, he promised he would 121 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: not appeal a lot of documents. The gag order is 122 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: being lifted. We're gonna learn a lot about the crime now, 123 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: but he's going to go to prison. That door is 124 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: going to shut on him after today. 125 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: Alex Stone, ABC News, thank you. 126 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: You got thanks up. 127 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: In Idaho covering the Brian Coberg Coburger sentencing. Yes, it's 128 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: just an obsession of compulsion. They they they you know, 129 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: they build up anger and resentment inside them and they're 130 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: just born that way. They have done studies of people 131 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: who are are psychopaths, and their brains are constructed differently. 132 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: There's I think it's the amygdalah in in psychopaths, it's 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: it's much smaller, and that's where your conscience is. That's 134 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 2: where you're capable of guilt and remorse. They don't feel 135 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: guilt and remorse. That's why he's smirking while he's getting insulted. 136 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: It's almost pointless to be shouting at him. It bounces 137 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: right off. You're not damaging his ego. He's not capable 138 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: of feeling things. Whenever you have somebody in your life 139 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: who doesn't seem I mean a lot of executives are psychopaths. 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: That's why they can go into a company and fire 141 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: like five thousand people, and then they go home and 142 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: they go to bed, and people are wailing at home. 143 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: How could he do this? That doesn't care. There's a 144 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: lot of people who don't care. 145 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: I think at least four percent of the populations are sociopathic. 146 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 5: I can't wrap my head around that. You know, when 147 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 5: people don't care for whatever reason, it just it really 148 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 5: is upsetting. I've encountered people like that in my life, 149 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 5: and I just, I guess so frustrated because I'm so different. 150 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: I'm very emotional and I have a lot of empathy 151 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 5: and sympathy and so rives me insane. 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, now it really is banging your head against the 153 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: brick wall. There's nothing you can do that breaks them. 154 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: They don't They're not wired that way. 155 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 5: There, tough one, tough one man or woman. 156 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, when we come back. 157 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: Now we have a homeless guy stabbed to death and 158 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: Brent Wood in front of a Whole Foods, which is 159 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: a sacred place. 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 5: That's where John goes to pick up flowers and delicious food. 161 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: That's right, my pets, my Whole Foods, dead homeless guy. 162 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: Last night, helicopters. So the all bit. 163 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 164 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 6: six forty. 165 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting on my couch last night, minding my 166 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: own business. I was alone. 167 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: My wife had gone out with a couple of girlfriends 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: somebody's birthday. So I had a peaceful little night at 169 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: home and just watching old TV shows, which is what 170 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 2: I do. 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: And I hear it. 172 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: Of the helicopter, and I didn't want to know, And 173 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: I did not turn on the news. I did not 174 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: check any crime apps, didn't look at any news sites. 175 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: Nothing I knew something bad pretty close to us. In fact, 176 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: probably an air distance a half mile. I could see 177 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: the helicopters, those idiot TV helicopters. 178 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: My wife comes home, she hears the thump, thump. 179 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: All the shades get pulled down, pull the shades down, 180 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: all the shades in our den, all the shades in 181 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: the kitchen, all the shades in the front, the back, 182 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: besides flays in a nursing home. And then look at 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: the crime apps. She's got five of them. All this 184 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: showed up on all of them. Guy gets stabbed, abbed 185 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: by a homeless man, or a homeless man gets stabbed 186 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: by another homeless man. Nobody, nobody knew the exact details, 187 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: do we. I'm assuming the both these guys are homeless. 188 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: Right now, we know that the homeless guy was stabbed. 189 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 5: The guy on the run, we don't know if he's homeless. 190 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: And it happened in front of a Whole Foods, the 191 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: Whole Foods that I am said to against my will 192 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: so very often in life, to buy bizarre products that 193 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: I don't understand for my wife, foods that I would 194 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: never eat on my own. And uh, well, I do 195 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: buy flowers there. They have a good flower section. 196 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: That's very nice. 197 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: Of you. 198 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: It is, it is. It is very nice. They have 199 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: good steak too, they do. 200 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: My son has convinced me that their their meat is 201 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: very good and so I've made burgers with their meat, 202 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: and yeah, the steaks are good there. So it's not 203 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: a complete loss. 204 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 5: And they have some good vegan desserts there I buy sometimes. 205 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: I'll take your word for that you've had them before, 206 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: because you tell me what they were then. You never said, oh, 207 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 2: here's a vegan dessert from all foods. I'd remember that. 208 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 2: I'm not coming near you anymore. We've you got food, 209 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: all right. But here's the thing. I so, anyway, when 210 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: one guy stabs another guy, they got into some stupid argument, 211 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: and you know, he's left for dead on the sidewalk. 212 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: I think they took him to the hospital, but he 213 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: died there. And it's like, oh my god, we just 214 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: can't go anywhere. I mean, you know, it happened at 215 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: nine o'clock at night. I've gone there at nine o'clock 216 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: at night, or go to the drug store which is 217 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: a few doors down, but has you know some suspicious 218 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: client tell in the parking lot. At times, it's like, 219 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: why is it like this? I did well I bought 220 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: an ice house. I'm in a good neighborhood. Why do 221 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: I have to deal with this because we have an 222 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: idiot who's a mayor, a bunch of crooks at LASA, 223 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: all the freaking tax money. If I told you how 224 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: much tax money have paid in my life, the city 225 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: council people, I just just livid, absolutely livid. 226 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Why do they want this and why can't? 227 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: And the thing is, you know, I'm sure all the 228 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: all the the the pale, skinny Whole Foods women, because 229 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: when I go in that store, there's just there's acres 230 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: of pale, skinny Whole Foods women and they're all lined 231 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: up with their little vegan delicacies. 232 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 5: And they are they're not always they have. 233 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: No blood in their bodies. They're all pale. They're practically transparent. 234 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not pale. I'm not transparent and I'm not 235 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 5: that skinny. And I go to Whole Foods on occasion. 236 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Did I say you? 237 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 5: Okay, but you're basically saying every one of them that 238 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 5: goes to Whole Foods, it looks like. 239 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: That they're pale stick figures. They are, and I know 240 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: who they vote for. I know every single one of 241 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: them voted for Karen Bass, everyone of them. I know 242 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: who they vote for, and I'm sure they're all terrified. 243 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 2: But will any of them wake up this morning and say, 244 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: maybe we should vote differently, maybe there's another way to live. 245 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: I mean, because the women are scared more than men. 246 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: That's just natural. You know, you got you go, you're more, 247 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: you have less defenses on you. I just I don't understand. 248 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: I don't understand the people who vote the way they do, 249 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: believe in the politics they do, in the philosophy you do. 250 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: And now you have. 251 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: People getting stabbed to death in front of a Whole Foods. 252 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: That's like being stabbed to death in front of a 253 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: church that's sacred. 254 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 5: Then I bet you if you ask some of those 255 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 5: people to go to Whole Foods, if they would vote 256 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 5: the way they've been voting in the past, they probably. 257 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: Would change their mind. 258 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's the same thing, right the people 259 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 5: that lost their homes in the Palace days. I'm sure 260 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 5: a lot of those people voted for Karen Bass, and 261 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 5: I don't know if they're going to be voting for 262 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 5: her again. 263 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: I think they flipped. 264 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping the Whole Foods crowd flipped. 265 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: Apparently that's what's ha to happen. 266 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: People have to die on the sidewalk in front of 267 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,359 Speaker 2: Whole Foods before some of these thin pail the transparent 268 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: people say Wow, maybe I was wrong, Maybe this is 269 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: not a good way to go. 270 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: We come back. 271 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: Carl de Myles coming on because Gavin Newsome, he's realized 272 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: so many. 273 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: People have fled the state. 274 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: You know, we might lose five congressional seats, five electoral votes, 275 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: which is bad for Newsome. He's running for president and 276 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: he wants he wants to like, he wants to redraw 277 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: the congressional districts and CARLAMI is gonna explain this. 278 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: Coming up. 279 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 280 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 6: six forty. 281 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: Moistline for Friday's eight seven seven Moist eighty six eight 282 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: seven seven Moist eighty six of the iHeart Radio app. 283 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk with the Carl a mile because Gavin 284 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: Newsom wants to redraw the congressional districts here in California, 285 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: and we're going to get to that in just a minute. 286 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: But Carl, I don't know if you heard, because this 287 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: news just broke a few minutes ago. But Newsom is 288 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: trying to find a buyer for one of the refineries 289 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: that's shutting down soon, the Valero refinery in Benetia. 290 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: Good luck with that, I mean, you know, buyer beware. 291 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: With all the costly mandates and regulations, the fact that 292 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: California has implemented the costly, greedy news steal or what 293 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: they call the Green New Deal, I don't know who 294 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: in the hell would want to buy any sort of 295 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: business in California, much less a refinery. And so Newsom 296 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: is an idiot. He's an idiot, and we're paying the 297 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: price for his mismanagement. 298 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Well that was that was and sweet, thank you. I 299 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: agree with you. 300 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't take much, It doesn't take much 301 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: analysis to kind of state made. 302 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: No, that was the first thing I thought of. Who's 303 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: going to buy it? Even if Gavin Newsom calls up? 304 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how how he thinks he's going to 305 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: influence anyone to buy and operate an oil refinery in 306 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: California with all the crushing regulation and taxes here. 307 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: But all right, you have to wonder again what sort 308 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: of thought process he's untethered from reality? Okay, he thinks 309 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: that this is such a great place. But he doesn't 310 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: have to deal with the crime because he's got a 311 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: you know, armed security detail. He you know, obviously has 312 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: a bunch of money, so he doesn't have to worry 313 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: about the price of gas or the price of milk 314 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: or eggs. He's completely untethered from reality. He doesn't understand 315 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: how bad things are in his in his state. 316 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: I understand when people live in a wealthy bubble that 317 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: they're not aware of what it's like, you know, down 318 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 2: below at the bottom of the hill. I have a 319 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: couple of acquaintances who are like that, and I talked 320 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: to them about what's going on, and they just stare 321 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: at me. They literally have no idea. I don't understand him, though. 322 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: I mean, he gets crap every day for the way 323 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: California is. He's constantly out there defending it. He's constantly 324 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: debating it. How can he be out of touch? Does 325 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: he think everyone who's complaining about all the obvious things 326 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: that we're all insane? 327 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: I think he is not out of touch. But he's 328 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: also a very capable liar. This is someone who's very ambitious. 329 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 4: He's always been handed things in his life. He's been 330 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: anointed by very rich special interests and never earned it. 331 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: It's always been granted to him, given to him, gifted 332 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 4: to him, and he, you know, is just a very 333 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 4: The one thing he does very well is he's a 334 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: very capable liar, so he knows what he's saying is untrue. 335 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: But he's seeking higher office and you know, the media 336 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 4: has let him get away with it for the most part. 337 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 4: And you know, I think that he's gonna have a 338 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: problem when he goes to the national stage running for 339 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: isn't it, Because while most of the California media is 340 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 4: in the tank for him, it hasn't held him accountable. 341 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: That's not going to be the case nationally, and his 342 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 4: record is about to be very much exposed, and I 343 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: think it's long overdue, all right. 344 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: Going to the other issue, he wants to redraw the 345 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: congressional districts because in Texas, the Governor Greg Abbott is 346 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: redrawing the districts there in order to get more Republican 347 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: leaning districts ahead of the twenty twenty six mid term elections. 348 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: So Newsom wants to gin up the Democratic leaning districts 349 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: here in California. 350 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: Can he do this. 351 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: Well? First and foremost, it shouldn't be done in Texas. 352 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: It shouldn't be done in California or anywhere, because I 353 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: don't believe politicians should be choosing the voters. And that's 354 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 4: what jerrymandering is. That's what this redistricting scheme is. It's 355 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: drawing lines and manipulating lines of congressional districts so that 356 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 4: the politicians are protected and that they get to select 357 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 4: what voters they get to face, versus the voters deciding 358 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: in fair drawn districts who they want to represent them. 359 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: And remember, districts should not be about which party wins. 360 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: And again I'm criticizing Texas for this, as well as 361 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 4: Gavinussom for jerry mandering. I think it's repugnant, it's corrupt, 362 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 4: it's illegitimate. It's not how our democracy should work. Lines 363 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 4: for districts should reflect natural boundaries, communities of interest, they 364 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 4: should really reflect common ties. That's not what jerry mandering is. 365 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: It's all designed to favor one political party over another. 366 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: We have an independent redistricting process in California. It's not 367 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: perfect and didn't particularly like how the last one was manipulated, 368 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: but it is designed to put this issue in the 369 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: hands of independent citizens. And what Nwsom is proposing to 370 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: do is to violate our state constant. He probably is 371 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 4: getting legal advice that it is going to violate our 372 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 4: state constitution, and he will be sued by Reform California 373 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: and ME or a multitude of other factions. And so 374 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 4: I believe what he's going to do is order up 375 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 4: a you know, eleven million dollars special elections statewide. Actually 376 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: it's going to be more than that, you know. The 377 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: idea is that it would be more than a neighborhood 378 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 4: of forty to fifty million dollars to put his redistricting 379 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: scam on the ballot. And he'll say it's about fair districts, 380 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: when in fact it's not, and he's going to try 381 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 4: to bamboozle the public. I don't think he's going to 382 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 4: win that election. Actually, I believe that Californians can smell 383 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: a rat and even though they're Democrat leaning voters in California, 384 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 4: they know that politicians like the jerry mander and they 385 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 4: don't like jerrymandering. They want to make sure that these 386 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 4: districts are fair. So if Newsom wants to square off 387 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 4: on the on the you know, the playing field at 388 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: the ballot box. I say, bring it on here, Joe. 389 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 4: We will absolutely, you know, make the case that Jerrymander 390 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: districts you should never come back to California. 391 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 392 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: They draw the districts and they're really odd shaped. There's 393 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: a lot of swiggling lines as they strain to try 394 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: to draw in more Democrat votes or Republican votes, and 395 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: you end up with these sprawling, weirdly shaped carve outs 396 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 2: that don't really make any sense. There's nothing that binds 397 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: a lot of these people that they should be want 398 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: one voting block. 399 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. I saw one map where they drew a line 400 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: all the way and had Maxine Waters representing Pacific Palisades. 401 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: Isn't that wonderful? 402 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: You know? 403 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: I guess they're never representing an insane asylum, you know, 404 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 4: not not a congressional district, but Pacific Palisades. Please. 405 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: Oh well, all right, Carl, very good. 406 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: You get squat there and become a resident who knows. 407 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: All right, Carl, we'll talk again soon. Thank you for 408 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: coming on. 409 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 410 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: Carl. 411 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: Demayah, well we come back more on Newsome. I told 412 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: you he's screwed, he's cornered. The refineries are closing, the 413 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: gas prices can shoot up over eight bucks. He wants 414 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 2: to run for president. Now he wants to find a 415 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: buyer for one of the refineries. 416 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: Why doesn't he buy it? 417 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: You know, I wonder what the refinery would go for. 418 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: I mean, there's not much profit in oil in California. 419 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: It's very expensive. That's why they're closing it. They're losing money. 420 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: He can afford a nine million dollar house. He can 421 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: afford his own oil refinery. 422 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 423 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 6: six forty. 424 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: John coblt We're on one to four and then after 425 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: four o'clock the podcast John cobelt Show on demand and 426 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: whatever you missed today you can hear. 427 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: Then. 428 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: We just had Carl Demile on and right before he 429 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: came on the air, we got the news and we've 430 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: been warning you about this. I'm telling you all the 431 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: gas warnings, gas price warnings we've been giving you. They're 432 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: all going to come to pass. And you look at 433 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom's behavior. He knows trouble is coming. When was 434 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: the last time you heard about a governor wanting to 435 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: buy an oil refinery. Gavin Newsom has successful, successfully crushed 436 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: the oil business in California. Every day that he has 437 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: served in government. He totally sold out to the climate 438 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: change fanatics. And the oil companies have to work under 439 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of very expensive regulations. And there's very 440 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: expensive taxes that we pay that they pay and then 441 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: they pass along to us. So it's all taxes that 442 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: we pay. It's about at least a dollar fifty a 443 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: gallon over what we pay over what other states pay. 444 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: And there's two more fineries closing, one in Valera. One 445 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: is Valero in Benetia. The other is Phillip sixty six 446 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: down in Los Angeles West, which is the town that 447 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: the that the Phillip sixty six is well, it's down 448 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: in the South Bay area, Wilmington, that's right, Wilmington. Okay, 449 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 2: So one in Wilmington, one in Benetia. And now Newsom 450 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: is stepping in. He's trying to broker a deal to 451 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: find a buyer urgently, find a buyer for the Venetia refinery. 452 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: It's going to close in April of twenty twenty six. 453 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: They're talking to Sinclair, they're talking to a European energy 454 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: firm because if they lose the refining capacity in Benetia 455 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: and in Wilmington, then the gasoline production is going to 456 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 2: dropped by seventeen percent, maybe as much as twenty percent. So, 457 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: in desperation, the California Energy Commission is trying to broker 458 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: a deal with support from the Governor's office. Otherwise the 459 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: oil and gas market is going to be severely disrupted 460 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: steep price hikes. State modeling suggests that removing Benetia from 461 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: the refining system could pump prices towards eight dollars a gallon. Well, 462 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: that's what Michael mcche was saying. Michael mcchee was saying this, 463 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: and you know what Gavin Newsom did his He had 464 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: his nerdy little goons on social media try to spere 465 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: smear mache as some kind of tool of the saudis 466 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 2: total lie. Carla Meyo talked about how easy it is 467 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: for Gavin Newsom to lie. He not only lies easily, 468 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: he gets the people who work for him to lie 469 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: easily and smear because he can't take any criticism because 470 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: nearly all the criticism is true. This is such incredible incompetence. 471 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: The lifeblood of modern civilization is oil and gas. We 472 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: don't exist without it. And he has bled the oil 473 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: companies dry with excessive taxes and excessive regulation. 474 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: He's bled us dry too. 475 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: And now that this whole story reached its logical end, 476 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: you create a situation where it's impossible for oil companies 477 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: to make profits, what do you think they're going to do. 478 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: They're going to go out of business. 479 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: This is simple. A plus B equal C. 480 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: A is too much regulation, B is too many too 481 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: many taxes equals C. Oil refinery goes out of business. 482 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: They close. 483 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: And now he's looking at two closing in Wilmington and Benetia, 484 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: and he's going, oh, oh, we're going to lose seventeen 485 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: percent of the capacity. 486 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: Gas is going to be eight dollars a gallon. 487 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: Uh oh, what a schmuck, What a stupid little child. 488 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: Why would you if you had even the slightest bit 489 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: of understanding of business and economics in the oil industry, 490 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: you would allow the oil industry to make whatever profit 491 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: they can because they will compete for customers to keep 492 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: prices at a reasonable level. Competition keeps prices reasonable and affordable. 493 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: And it works in the other forty nine states back east, 494 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 2: their states selling gas for two dollars and seventy cents, 495 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: and the oil companies are making profits at two seventy. 496 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: Here it's four point fifty and they can't make a profit. 497 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: What does that tell you? 498 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose if they talked this in the schools, 499 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: right from the beginning, the whole everybody in the public 500 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 2: would understand and not get caught up in all these 501 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: weird cults companies, price gougers, all climate change is gonna 502 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: kill us. 503 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: It's all nonsense. It's bs it nonsense, it's garbage. 504 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: And you follow these these these stupid cults hatred of 505 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 2: oil companies, worshiping climate change. 506 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: What do you get? 507 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: Well, fine, here, you got it your way. You don't 508 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: want us to burn oil and gas? Fine, oil companies 509 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: will close? Oh wait, where you can't close? It's gonna 510 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: be eight bucks agoing? Oh wait, wait wait, who's gonna 511 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: vote for me? Yeah, I'm Gavin Newsome. I'm from California. 512 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: In my state, we pay eight dollars a gallon for gas. Yeah, 513 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: that's gonna rack up a lot of votes. Who in 514 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: the other forty nine states is going to vote for 515 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: eight dollar gas? I mean maybe here that's we're gonna 516 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: do a lot on this Tomorrow we're gonna have my 517 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: mache on from USC to talk about all this. This 518 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: is the logical end of the road, all right. Conway's 519 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: up next. We got Crozer with the news live in 520 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 521 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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