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Speaker 2: like we're headed to an eighteen game schedule NFL. Also,
Speaker 2: the kickoff probably modified so we can have something foreign
Speaker 2: to most of you kickoff returns. Didn't have a kickoff
Speaker 2: return in the Super Bowl. Excuse me, Yeah, might have
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Speaker 2: It's Monday, as we always do every Monday, Best and
Speaker 2: worst of the weekend. Once you saw that you liked
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Speaker 2: Those chatting on chat Row, we say good morning to
Speaker 2: you as well. Also, looking at the quarterbacking situation, source
Speaker 2: who was at the combine said the top three quarterbacks
Speaker 2: there's not much separation between those three in his opinion,
Speaker 2: they're interchangeable. But then you have a little bit of
Speaker 2: a drop off there when you get to Bownicks, Michael Pennix,
Speaker 2: and JJ McCarthy. Although JJ McCarthy feels like he might
Speaker 2: be the flavor of the week, he was there, he
Speaker 2: was working out. Somehow that influences people like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: he's working out. Well, he's a quarterback. He's supposed to,
Speaker 2: but he had to, I think because the other three
Speaker 2: firmly entrenched at the top of the draft. But as
Speaker 2: far as trying to assess JJ McCarthy, Bo Nix, Michael
Speaker 2: Pennix feels like they're kind of lumped together. But it
Speaker 2: feels like there's a little bit of separation now with
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. And it seems like all these mock drafts
Speaker 2: having going to Denver, there's I haven't seen any other teams.
Speaker 2: Maybe Minnesota if they lose Kirk Cousins. Baker Mayfield. With
Speaker 2: Mike Evans now re signing with Tampa, Baker Mayfield would
Speaker 2: like to stay in Tampa. I think that maybe his
Speaker 2: representatives are using some leverage here to say, well, there's
Speaker 2: always Atlanta they need a quarterback, or maybe New England. Oh,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't do that to Baker Mayfield. Go to New England.
Speaker 2: Atlanta that'd be fun, but feels like he'll be headed
Speaker 2: back to Tampa. Here's the other thing with Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2: If you're looking at your team and you go, you
Speaker 2: know what, if we just had a quality quarterback, a
Speaker 2: guy that we knew was going to throw for you know,
Speaker 2: close to thirty touchdowns, Okay, Kirk Cousins. I'm fine with that,
Speaker 2: except for he had achilles surgery. He's what thirty five
Speaker 2: maybe thirty six. You're going to pay him forty five
Speaker 2: million dollars. He's probably not going to be ready to
Speaker 2: start the season. So that's your option. If you're Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: and you go, you know what, Kirk Cousins, that would
Speaker 2: be the difference. Okay, he might be because then you
Speaker 2: would have a quarterback who was sort of on the
Speaker 2: same level as the other quarterbacks in your own division there.
Speaker 2: But I got to wait for him to come back
Speaker 2: from achilles surgery, and at his age and his price,
Speaker 2: I'm not signing up for that. Feels like the Raiders
Speaker 2: are being sneaky now being in the conversation of moving up,
Speaker 2: and they might be in the market for Justin Fields.
Speaker 2: It feels like there he could stay in Chicago Atlanta
Speaker 2: looks like the Raiders will be in that equation. Maybe
Speaker 2: another team in there still feels like it's Atlanta, depending
Speaker 2: on what they're going to get. But that just sort
Speaker 2: of some of the news that was coming out of
Speaker 2: the combine, whether it was from my source or just
Speaker 2: things that you've probably read on your own. All Right,
Speaker 2: Seaton Poll question for hour two is going to be
Speaker 2: what Dan we got up there for hour one? Women's
Speaker 2: college basketball is having a moment or a movement?
Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think the answers.
Speaker 2: Are sixty four percent a movement? Right now?
Speaker 3: We have sixty five percent having a moment. Oh, okay,
Speaker 3: misjudging the onions.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Okay, let's see.
Speaker 3: I think Paul's got a couple of suggestions for this
Speaker 3: hour if I'm not, and I'm happy to take those
Speaker 3: for you. Paul, If you'd like the athlete that doesn't
Speaker 3: feel much like they were a real person, that's fun, Babe, Ruth,
Speaker 3: Pete Maravich, Wilt Chamberlain, other neither neither.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the basis of this is there's some athletes in
Speaker 5: American history that don't feel real. It's like they're their
Speaker 5: own entity. When I was a kid, I used to
Speaker 5: read stuff about Babe Ruth and I thought it was
Speaker 5: kind of a made up character in magazines or stories,
Speaker 5: and then I realized I would see videos like, oh,
Speaker 5: that's a real person. I thought, you know, there's movies
Speaker 5: and there's stuff. Will Chamberlain he's never in the same
Speaker 5: category as the greatest players of all time and scores.
Speaker 5: It's like he's this goliath that came about in the
Speaker 5: fifties and sixties and seventy.
Speaker 2: He's his own entity.
Speaker 5: There's so many stories about him, and Maravich is kind
Speaker 5: of in that neck of the woods that I've heard
Speaker 5: so much about his college career, but you can't find
Speaker 5: video of it, not a lot, and so it feels
Speaker 5: like to me, it didn't really happen. You saw it,
Speaker 5: so you got to almost remove yourself from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say Wilt Chamberlain because we don't credit
Speaker 2: Wilt for what he did and when he did it,
Speaker 2: but we do credit Babe Ruth for what he did
Speaker 2: and when he did it. And then you'll get this, Well,
Speaker 2: Wilt was going against a bunch of white centers who
Speaker 2: were probably plumbers and electricians in the off season. Well,
Speaker 2: Babe was playing against mostly white players. Pete Maravich, his
Speaker 2: entire college career was in the SEC. It was segregated,
Speaker 2: and he was playing against white players. I don't know
Speaker 2: why we don't acknowledge Wilt with what he did and
Speaker 2: when he did it. He averaged fifty a game in
Speaker 2: the NBA, and he did face Bill Russell quite a
Speaker 2: few times every season. He didn't win big games. If
Speaker 2: Wil Di had won six or seven titles, we would
Speaker 2: look at Wilt Chamberlain differently, I think, or history would.
Speaker 2: But he was, well, he just puts up in great numbers,
Speaker 2: but he's not going to win you the big one.
Speaker 2: And that's true. I mean, you can make that argument
Speaker 2: that talent won what two titles, and one was when
Speaker 2: he was basically a defensive minded player, blocking shots and
Speaker 2: rebounding for the you know, the Lakers. But Wilt feels mythological.
Speaker 2: You're like, even the one hundred point game it was
Speaker 2: in Hershey, Pennsylvania, there's no video. There's just a picture
Speaker 2: of him holding up a sign that says one hundred
Speaker 2: on it. Okay, I mean that's like the moon Landing
Speaker 2: of sports. Where you go, I guess it happened. I
Speaker 2: think it happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paulie, I always wonder at the time because I
Speaker 5: wasn't alive. Was Wilt Chamberin looked at as if like
Speaker 5: he was a freak and almost like a bully, and
Speaker 5: it was what he was doing was not fair because
Speaker 5: I'm looking he had a season, he's twenty seven years old.
Speaker 5: He averaged thirty I'm sorry, he averaged forty four points
Speaker 5: and twenty four rebounds. He finished seventh in the MVP voting. Now,
Speaker 5: I can't imagine there's six other players with better stat
Speaker 5: lines than that was was he looked on like he
Speaker 5: had his unfair advantage and he was not a normal
Speaker 5: basketball player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Bill Russell was probably six ' eight, maybe
Speaker 2: six ' nine, probably six ' eight, and Will was
Speaker 2: a legitimate seven footer, and he was an athletic seven footer.
Speaker 2: He when he left college, I think he went to
Speaker 2: the Harlem Globetrotters, you know, so, I think he spent
Speaker 2: a year with them, but he it was just different
Speaker 2: back then, and uh, I think he probably thought he
Speaker 2: could make more money with the Harlem Globetrotters, but he
Speaker 2: was He didn't have finesse the way Kareem had. He
Speaker 2: was just the biggest guy. He was seven one two
Speaker 2: seventy five, and he was able to do whatever he
Speaker 2: wanted to. When he got the ball down low, you
Speaker 2: weren't going to stop.
Speaker 6: But he was.
Speaker 2: A great track and field guy, high jumper, volleyball as
Speaker 2: well a great athlete. I just think we don't give
Speaker 2: him credit just because you look at those numbers. He
Speaker 2: have hammhage fifty a game in the NBA, Yes, yes, Marv.
Speaker 7: Did the media think so too, because in nineteen sixty
Speaker 7: two when he averaged the fifty.
Speaker 2: Points, Yeah, didn't win the MVP.
Speaker 7: He was first team All NBA and Bill Russell was
Speaker 7: second team All NBA and he won the MVP award.
Speaker 5: Right like almost like he's looked at differently as a kid.
Speaker 5: There's guys like Red Grange and I was like, is
Speaker 5: that a person or a story? Bayruth to me, didn't
Speaker 5: feel like a person. He feel like this anomaly.
Speaker 2: Russell won championships, and I think the media probably back
Speaker 2: then they valued that you were winning the championship even
Speaker 2: though you're seeing something, you know, this statistical anomaly of
Speaker 2: what he would do. Bill Russell would win titles, and
Speaker 2: they put value in winning those titles. It's like Ted Williams,
Speaker 2: Joe Demagio, Ted Williams. I don't think he won the
Speaker 2: MVP when he batted four oh six in nineteen forty one.
Speaker 2: I think it was Demagio. But they knew Demagio was
Speaker 2: going to be winning World Series and Ted Williams was not.
Speaker 2: And Ted wasn't well liked even in his own town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost sounds like Wilt is the uh like
Speaker 3: living like birth or something of the phrase you can't
Speaker 3: teach height. It almost sounds like that's the way he
Speaker 3: was treated because there have been a million seven footers
Speaker 3: that have come through, and not so much these days
Speaker 3: because the game has changed. But I remember there were
Speaker 3: all kinds of dudes that were tall, and it's like, well, hey,
Speaker 3: you can't teach heights, so that's why we're taking it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, poem like Victor Wabanyama's not facing that today. He's
Speaker 5: I think he's seven to four and athletic. He is
Speaker 5: the ultimate big man who could do everything, but he's
Speaker 5: not being looked at like he's a freak show or
Speaker 5: a has some unfair advantage, even though he does.
Speaker 2: Victor won Bayama had thirty one twelve, six assists in
Speaker 2: six blocks last night against the Pacers. I did watch.
Speaker 2: I was watching. You know, here was another thing that
Speaker 2: Wilt was terrible. Form the free throw line terrible, and
Speaker 2: I think that factored in as well, Like how skilled
Speaker 2: is he can't even shoot a free throw? He even
Speaker 2: shot at the top of the key at one point
Speaker 2: in his career. His free throws not from the free
Speaker 2: throw line, from the top of the key. I was
Speaker 2: watching Golden State and Boston yesterday, and you know, sometimes
Speaker 2: when you tune into a game and you look at
Speaker 2: the score and you think, God, I think that says
Speaker 2: sixty points. I think they're down by fifty, and I go, wait.
Speaker 2: I actually got up, walked over to the TV and
Speaker 2: I go, I'll be damn, they got sixty points. I
Speaker 2: texted the Danauts, I said, Celtics by fifty over the
Speaker 2: Warriors third quarter. I don't know what those games mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure it's Steve Kurz and it's just
Speaker 2: a game. The Celtics had won eleven in a row.
Speaker 2: They're the first team at end history to have three
Speaker 2: wins by fifty or more in a season.
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Speaker 2: We did it last year, you guys took advantage of it,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna do it again this year. Caitlin Clark
Speaker 2: the all times scoring leader in college basketball history, and
Speaker 2: she did it at the free throw line. You know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of hard. You know, Gus Johnson wants to
Speaker 2: have that dramatic call and it just couldn't be that dramatic.
Speaker 2: She missed the three, then there was a technical and
Speaker 2: she went to the line and it sounded like this for.
Speaker 6: College basketball history. She does have a Pasha.
Speaker 9: Katelyn's hut because the all time leading skill in major
Speaker 9: college basketball history, passing pistol peep. There that's a record
Speaker 9: that's lasted for.
Speaker 2: Fifty four years. All right, So gus trying to ratchet
Speaker 2: up the excitement level for a free throw. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're doing play by play, you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a logo three or you know
Speaker 2: something where a steel and a layup, you know, anything
Speaker 2: that's got a little excitement. It's at the free throw
Speaker 2: line and fast to become the all time leading scorer, wish,
Speaker 2: and then that's it. I don't know if Caitlyn Clark knew.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. At halftimes she didn't know. If
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like you're stopping the game. She's like,
Speaker 2: let's play. It's like, I don't know, less than a
Speaker 2: second left in the first half when she did it.
Speaker 2: All right, So we have a new poll question here
Speaker 2: and NFL Combine wraps up. We'll go to the combine
Speaker 2: coming up because I want to find out the actual
Speaker 2: validity or possibility of having an eighteen game, Like when
Speaker 2: does that happen? When would the players? Do you have
Speaker 2: to have a collective bargaining agreement where you're going to
Speaker 2: you know, cause you're going to negotiate this, Hey, eighteen games?
Speaker 2: What are we going to get? So we'll talk to
Speaker 2: Field Yates of the Mothership. He'll be joining us from there.
Speaker 2: Chuck in Dallas joins us right now. Hi, Chuck, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind?
Speaker 10: Hey?
Speaker 11: I just wanted to comment on your comment about the
Speaker 11: eighteen game season and players getting an extra paycheck. Technically
Speaker 11: that's true, but it wouldn't actually be any extra money
Speaker 11: as far as I understand, And I'm a former player,
Speaker 11: and let's say that you're on a four year deal
Speaker 11: and you're making ten million dollars a year at ten
Speaker 11: million's pro rated over seventeen games in the regular season.
Speaker 11: So if they decide to add an extra game, technically
Speaker 11: it'd be an extra paycheck, but it wouldn't be any
Speaker 11: extra money, unless, of course, if what you said you
Speaker 11: know comes true. Of course it could be negotiated.
Speaker 2: Well, you have the cap, Chuck, and there's going to
Speaker 2: be more revenue, and this would have to be collectively bargained. Therefore,
Speaker 2: you know technically right that it's not a paycheck per se.
Speaker 2: But if they're not going to get more money, then
Speaker 2: they're not going to be approving an eighteen game schedule.
Speaker 2: They're going to get their money. The question is how
Speaker 2: they get their money. Let's see Mike in Pennsylvania. Hi, Mike,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 6: Dan?
Speaker 4: Mike, first time, longtime, five to nine kind of McGregor
Speaker 4: one fifty five.
Speaker 10: Hey Dan, real quick, you were.
Speaker 2: Talking will this stilt Chamberlain?
Speaker 11: Can you tell us.
Speaker 2: Where he scored the one hundred point game at Hershey, Pennsylvania. Mike, Well,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, Mike. Not that deep of a
Speaker 2: cut for you. No, it's not, no, yes, especially when
Speaker 2: you just said it five minutes. That's true. Donald and
Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Hey, Donald, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12: Hey, good morning guys. So you had a call that
Speaker 12: said that Duke would never know about storming the court
Speaker 12: because they're elitists and all that. Well, I was actually
Speaker 12: in a court storming at Duke against Carolina. And you
Speaker 12: would think it was a season where Duke was maybe
Speaker 12: down and you know, and Carolina was highly ranked. No,
Speaker 12: Duke was number one, Carolina was number three. It was
Speaker 12: nineteen ninety eight, and me getting in with the student
Speaker 12: was a whole different story. But man, we stormed the
Speaker 12: court after the game. It was such a good game.
Speaker 12: You guys should look it up because he gave storm
Speaker 12: the court after the game and Duke was number one.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Donald. Look, you can storm the
Speaker 2: court if universities want to continue to do that. Fine.
Speaker 2: You have to protect the opposing team, that's all. If
Speaker 2: you don't care about the student body at risk running
Speaker 2: down on the floor. You know people colliding your basketball team,
Speaker 2: where people are running down with good intentions, Just make
Speaker 2: sure you get the opposing team off the floor.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 2: You want to have students run down there, somebody gets hurt. Hey,
Speaker 2: you guys wanted to do court storming.
Speaker 5: Yeah, poem that court storm he referenced. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 5: is that Jason Caple half court buzzer beater to force
Speaker 5: it to double overtime and then the Duke fans at
Speaker 5: the end of double overtime.
Speaker 2: Right Jason or Jeff Caple?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Jeff Capel Caple Jeff Caple, nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see, how about we take a break. We'll
Speaker 2: go out to the combined field. Yates of the Mothership
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Speaker 2: More of your phone calls coming up, best and worst
Speaker 2: of the weekend. We'll give you hours coming up here
Speaker 2: in a little bit. Field Yates, ESPN NFL Insider is
Speaker 2: at the Combine over the weekend. Also, you can check
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Speaker 2: Field's updated prospect rankings will be released this Wednesday on
Speaker 2: ESPN dot com. Field, good to talk to you again.
Speaker 2: Help me understand the JJ McCarthy love.
Speaker 11: Well.
Speaker 9: First of all, good to be on with you again, Dan,
Speaker 9: And I think that we all know that quarterbacks are
Speaker 9: going to be inflated in the pre draft process because
Speaker 9: of the fact that it's the hardest position that I
Speaker 9: would argue in all of sports to find a capable
Speaker 9: option at. But this offseason is particularly right for a
Speaker 9: quarterback like JJ McCarthy to move up the board because
Speaker 9: of the fact that you've got a handful of teams
Speaker 9: that are all fishing in a very very small pond
Speaker 9: right now. If you look at the teams beyond the
Speaker 9: top three in the current NFL draft order, Chicago, Washington,
Speaker 9: and New England, you then get to teams starting as
Speaker 9: soon as I would argue pick six, the New York Giants,
Speaker 9: who might in the quarterback market this offseason. You've got
Speaker 9: the Giants, You've got the Falcons, You've got the Vikings
Speaker 9: to pick eleven. You've got the Broncos at twelve, You've
Speaker 9: got the Raiders at thirteen, You've got the Steelers at
Speaker 9: number twenty. Then you have other teams like exam for
Speaker 9: an example of the Los Angeles Rams, who not for
Speaker 9: this year but might be eyeing the future So the
Speaker 9: point is that you've got a lot of teams hunting
Speaker 9: for a quarterback, and there's only one team for Baker
Speaker 9: Mayfield and there's only one team for Kirk Cousins, regardless
Speaker 9: of where those teams are, which is going to lead
Speaker 9: teams to turn towards the draft. And JJ, I think
Speaker 9: probably has put himself in position to be the fourth
Speaker 9: quarterback off the board relative to where I will have
Speaker 9: him ranked on Wednesday. I won't spoil it all, but
Speaker 9: I have him at twenty seventh on my overall prospect rankings,
Speaker 9: so that will be incongruent with where I think he
Speaker 9: winds up going in the draft. But this is the
Speaker 9: quarterback tax that very much impacts in a positive way
Speaker 9: guys like JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Now, but I wonder about this that he gets credit
Speaker 2: for going to the combine, Well, okay, should you get
Speaker 2: credit for going to the combine? The other quarterbacks had
Speaker 2: nothing to gain by working out the top three. And
Speaker 2: if McCarthy wants to kind of close that gap between
Speaker 2: the top three quarterbacks and then the fourth quarterback, then
Speaker 2: I understand him going there. But I don't know. Once again,
Speaker 2: I don't get the love. I don't understand it because
Speaker 2: I watch and I didn't think he was the best
Speaker 2: player on his you know, his own team or offense.
Speaker 2: But it feels like Denver loves him. Maybe Minnesota loves him.
Speaker 11: I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, in a while does does he deserve credit
Speaker 2: for working out at the Combine?
Speaker 9: Well, So here's what I would say is, first of all,
Speaker 9: however you and I feel about him might be le
Speaker 9: you know, it's gonna end up being irrelevant because I
Speaker 9: think the NFL is gonna end up liking him a
Speaker 9: whole lot more than maybe we are talking about him
Speaker 9: in this vein. And there are certainly some traits to
Speaker 9: really like about JJ McCarthy. He's a very good athlete.
Speaker 9: He has excellent ball placements, and he's able to move
Speaker 9: and row on the run, things that are important traits
Speaker 9: that can travel because the offensive line toll likely play
Speaker 9: behind in the NFL is not the one that he
Speaker 9: played behind at Michigan this year, which had six offensive
Speaker 9: linemen at the Combine. So guys who aren't even starters
Speaker 9: for Michigan are at the Combine as one of the
Speaker 9: three hundred and twenty or so best prospects. Melkiper Jr.
Speaker 9: Reminded me of something early on in the process this year,
Speaker 9: and he is going to hammer it home with me
Speaker 9: anybody else who's involved in the draft, which is that
Speaker 9: sometimes your first scout on the player, your first instinct
Speaker 9: on the player, your first evaluation on the player, is
Speaker 9: going to end up being the most accurate relatives where
Speaker 9: or what he becomes in the NFL, because events like
Speaker 9: the combine are certainly important pieces of the puzzle. Whatever
Speaker 9: these past five or six days, we've seen players who
Speaker 9: all of a sudden their stock is going way, way,
Speaker 9: way up without doing anything that actually involved playing a
Speaker 9: football game. I'm not saying a four yard dash is
Speaker 9: not important, or you know, the bench press or the
Speaker 9: three cone drill or anything that they did over these
Speaker 9: past five or six days. But I've always felt like
Speaker 9: maybe the most important part of the combine is actually
Speaker 9: the medical evaluation, because that's the kind of stuff that
Speaker 9: us on the outside don't have great information on, and
Speaker 9: even teams themselves are gonna learn more about because you know,
Speaker 9: you can't figure out on film whether a guy has,
Speaker 9: you know, a bulky knee that needs further examination and
Speaker 9: the potential for you know, a second surgery or something
Speaker 9: of that nature. So all, I think the Combine has
Speaker 9: become the signature event of the NFL off season, and
Speaker 9: I certainly love being there. I do think there is
Speaker 9: a very delicate balance that we must maintain, which is,
Speaker 9: we just spent five months watching these guys on the field,
Speaker 9: and in the case of some of these players, four
Speaker 9: full seasons prior to that. That should be the most
Speaker 9: important part of the evaluation. But it's very tempting to
Speaker 9: latch onto record setting forty times or guys who can
Speaker 9: bench press two hundred and twenty five for thirty five
Speaker 9: plus reps.
Speaker 2: Talking to Field Yates ESPN NFL Insider after he was
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis for the Combine trade market for Justin Fields,
Speaker 2: what you.
Speaker 9: Know, I thought going in, I thought going into the
Speaker 9: Combine dand that this might end up being one of
Speaker 9: those where Chicago is it's like a real estate offer,
Speaker 9: like they're managing multiple parties involved, And you know, felt
Speaker 9: a little bit softer coming out of Indianapolis than I
Speaker 9: had initially anticipated. That being said, even if right now
Speaker 9: a deal isn't done, and I thought that their general manager,
Speaker 9: Ryan Poles, was very transparent, actually admirably so, because this
Speaker 9: is a human situation on top of it being a
Speaker 9: football situation about how he wants to make sure that
Speaker 9: this has done in an expedient manner to not drag
Speaker 9: things along for Justin Field if they end up trading him.
Speaker 9: But once the domino start to fall, and we could
Speaker 9: have a domino fall as soon as tomorrow at being
Speaker 9: faker Mayfield and the possibility of a franchise tag, teams
Speaker 9: right now have a Plan A or maybe even a
Speaker 9: Plan B will have to pivot to other options. So
Speaker 9: when I began talking about JJ McCarthy and referencing how
Speaker 9: more buyers and there are options, I think that does
Speaker 9: impact the Fields market, the Justin Fields market, as I
Speaker 9: do think Chicago will end up finding something that they
Speaker 9: can get done. And I've found the most relevant data
Speaker 9: point as far as trade compensation is concerned to be
Speaker 9: the Sam Donald deal a few years ago. You have
Speaker 9: to not look at the results of the trade to Carolina,
Speaker 9: but rather the fact that Sam was a third overall
Speaker 9: pick coming into his fourth NFL season, like Justin is
Speaker 9: obviously not all good, but also there are some traits
Speaker 9: that you know, teams continue to be interested in Sam Donald.
Speaker 9: That's why San Francisco signed him last off season, so
Speaker 9: enough there that an acquiring team could compel itself to
Speaker 9: make the package that Carolina did, So I think a
Speaker 9: second round pick and maybe a little more about what
Speaker 9: ends up taking to get done to acquire.
Speaker 2: Justin fields eighteen game schedule. Not a question of if,
Speaker 2: but when you know.
Speaker 9: I've seen the various tidbits of reporting on it, and
Speaker 9: I felt when we moved from sixteen to seventeen that
Speaker 9: the idea of going to eighteen was just an eventuality.
Speaker 9: I didn't have a sense of the timeline. But I
Speaker 9: think that we have seen while there was initially some
Speaker 9: pushback on the idea of going from sixteen to seventeen games,
Speaker 9: that you know, when the NFL consistently turns out forty
Speaker 9: eight or forty nine of the top live programming events
Speaker 9: of the calendar year on TV, that you know there's
Speaker 9: just that much money available, and the money goes into
Speaker 9: the pockets of the owners, of course, but it also
Speaker 9: goes in part in the pockets of the NFL players.
Speaker 9: And when we just saw a week ago that the
Speaker 9: NFL salary cap for twenty twenty four spikes by thirty
Speaker 9: million dollars, a previously unprecedented mark. It only further I
Speaker 9: think emboldens the powers the be to consider that eighteen
Speaker 9: game schedule, because if that thirty million dollars spike can
Speaker 9: be something that can happen more than once, ever, it
Speaker 9: ends up impacting everybody in a very positive manner.
Speaker 2: Great stuff, Field, thanks for joining us. We appreciate your time.
Speaker 9: Right back to you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: That's field Y cespn NFL Insider and the weekly podcast,
Speaker 2: the First Draft Podcast with mel kiper Junior and coming
Speaker 2: up Wednesday, he will have his updated prospect rankings on
Speaker 2: ESPN dot com. All right, let's go around the room.
Speaker 2: Best and worst of the weekend, Todd, I'm going to
Speaker 2: start with you.
Speaker 8: Lead us on best of the weekend in a span
Speaker 8: of under nine minutes. Islanders center Kyle Paul Mary. That's right,
Speaker 8: I'm going Hockey gets the natural hat trick first period
Speaker 8: at home against the Bruins, five to one win keeps
Speaker 8: their Stanley Cup playoff hopes alive. Worst Arkansas, Kentucky and
Speaker 8: Lexington Saturday. Two hundred and thirteen points scored, no overtimes.
Speaker 8: How about a little defense.
Speaker 2: One eleven one oh two Wildcats Watt seat O'Connor.
Speaker 3: My worst of the weekend with Seaton Hall absolutely getting
Speaker 3: destroyed by Yukon. That was humiliations galore. Yes, yeah, that
Speaker 3: was unfortunately my best of the weekend. This is going
Speaker 3: to take me a minute to explain, okay, so I
Speaker 3: apologize in advance for that. There's a team called Wimbledon FC,
Speaker 3: all right, and they played soccer in England. They were
Speaker 3: what some people would say is stolen, but they were
Speaker 3: bought and moved to another town. That team then became
Speaker 3: what's called m K Dons. So Wimbledon FC no longer exists.
Speaker 3: M K Dons is now a new team, right. The
Speaker 3: fan group in Wimbledon started a new team called AFC Wimbledon.
Speaker 3: They started at the very bottom of the English soccer pyramid.
Speaker 3: They've waited years and years and years and years and
Speaker 3: years to getting promoted from going up I think nine
Speaker 3: tiers of soccer and they've played this MK Dons team
Speaker 3: a handful of times and I think it's been a
Speaker 3: two two draw. But just this past weekend AFC Wimbledon
Speaker 3: beat m K Dons while both of them are in
Speaker 3: a promotion race, and the place just absolutely went ballistic.
Speaker 3: They to to get back your rivals like that, the
Speaker 3: team that you believe was stolen from you by these owners,
Speaker 3: and then have to wait all of these years to win,
Speaker 3: year after year, to get promoted, to get promoted, to
Speaker 3: get only to then pull promotion away from them, or
Speaker 3: at least take a massive shot away from them. And
Speaker 3: now you are going to go above where you think that.
Speaker 3: It's it's an unbelievable story. That's a delicious irony. It
Speaker 3: really is. It's it's something that's very unique to the sport,
Speaker 3: and it is it is delicious is exactly the right word.
Speaker 3: Because to finally get revenge, or at least what appears
Speaker 3: to be revenge, it's not done yet. It's it's an
Speaker 3: unbelievable story. I highly suggest people look into it. It's
Speaker 3: it's fantastic, Marvin best and worst of the weekend, all.
Speaker 7: Right, I don't know what to call it, either the
Speaker 7: best or the worst of the weekend. But Matt remy
Speaker 7: Rempy from the Rangers, from the Rangers. Yeah, he's played
Speaker 7: about six games, and half of them he's gotten into fights.
Speaker 2: I think it's more than that. I mean, yeah, now
Speaker 2: it's become that he's a fan favorite every time he's
Speaker 2: on the ice, people expect him to fight.
Speaker 7: I mean as soon as the pug drops take the
Speaker 7: gloves off.
Speaker 2: And he's like six ' eight.
Speaker 7: He's six ' eight, but he's got to work on
Speaker 7: his technique.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got roughed up his last time. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And these are dudes probably like my hype, maybe a
Speaker 7: little bit taller, and they're like, yeah, all right, that's
Speaker 7: six eight. Don't mean nothing because they were just having
Speaker 7: their way with this young man yep, yep, and I
Speaker 7: mean kudos. I mean, I guess he's tough, I mean
Speaker 7: or stupid.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't think there was fighting anymore in hockey. And
Speaker 2: I still don't get like, hey, my guy's gonna fight
Speaker 2: your guy. What does that mean? That sets the tone
Speaker 2: for now? You used to have players who would protect
Speaker 2: your stars, you know they Gretzky had that. I think
Speaker 2: it was Dave Simenko that if you mess with Gretzy,
Speaker 2: you had to mess with this guy. But I I
Speaker 2: don't know, like fighting is like, Okay, what do you
Speaker 2: just accomplished? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I love the etiquette of the refs. As long as
Speaker 5: they're both on their skates, they let them fight, and
Speaker 5: then they see there's like a lull in the action.
Speaker 5: Then they decided to go in. But once they hit
Speaker 5: the deck because they don't want anyone catching a skate
Speaker 5: in it, so they.
Speaker 7: Let them fight. Yes, what else do you have? Marvin other?
Speaker 7: Best our girl? Juju Watkins twenty six points, twelve rebounds.
Speaker 7: USC beat Arizona State. They're ranked seventh in the country.
Speaker 7: Hopefully they play Iowa at AAA tournament.
Speaker 2: That'd be fun. I watched USC against Washington, the men's team,
Speaker 2: and if you tuned in, I said, hey, Lebron's son
Speaker 2: plays for USC, and you saw Isaiah Collier and you
Speaker 2: you would have thought, oh my god, Lebron's son is awesome.
Speaker 2: Well it's Isaiah Collier, freshman out of Georgia. He was
Speaker 2: spectacular in this game against Washington and Bronni didn't play much.
Speaker 2: And he's got to come back next year and hopefully
Speaker 2: healthy off season given what happened, you know, prior to
Speaker 2: the start of the season, and then see if he
Speaker 2: can be a featured guy. He's just he's a kid
Speaker 2: who's playing college basketball. There's nothing special right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody has some special trades. You don't get that far
Speaker 2: without having something. So when somebody says, well, he sees
Speaker 2: the court. Well, okay, hey, he plays tough defense. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, okay, that's not star power. So
Speaker 2: just watching him, there were quite a few players better
Speaker 2: than him on the floor. Yes, PAULI bestinworst, the only.
Speaker 5: Worst of the weekend. In the Iowa Ohio state game,
Speaker 5: this good senior guard Molly Davis hurt her knee. It
Speaker 5: was really tough play for them. She's a tough player.
Speaker 5: Doesn't get a lot of credit. Best of the weekend.
Speaker 5: I guess this is a good one with a knee injury.
Speaker 5: The New York Knicks are having a good season, their
Speaker 5: fans are rolling, they're playing good ball. Jalen Brunts and
Speaker 5: their star guard hurt his knee. It appears it's a
Speaker 5: knee Brews and nothing more than that. And there was
Speaker 5: a big relief in you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I saw him as he was going around
Speaker 2: another player and he just bumped knees. That's happened to
Speaker 2: me before. It just hurts, you know, it might swell,
Speaker 2: have to drain it. But he did have a brace
Speaker 2: or a sleeve on that knee. But I don't know
Speaker 2: what you know, if there was previous injury there damage there,
Speaker 2: but you know they all wear those basically body sleeves
Speaker 2: now where it's on your arms and your legs. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that was that was a big long I was looking
Speaker 2: forward to watching him, but then Donovan Mitchell wasn't playing
Speaker 2: in the game either. Yeah, Paul, what happened the.
Speaker 5: Days of people in in the NBA and college basketball
Speaker 5: wearing knee pads? I think I know for sure in
Speaker 5: the NBA, kream Adul Jabbar wore knee pads in the
Speaker 5: late seventies. Patrick Ewing loved the white knee pulling. You
Speaker 5: don't see pure knee pads anymore in the NBA.
Speaker 2: No, You see these sleeves now, I mean the knee
Speaker 2: pads look kind of corny. Wilt used to have knee
Speaker 2: pads that were on his shins. He wore his knee
Speaker 2: pads on his shins. I'm not quite sure why, but
Speaker 2: it was kind of weird to see that.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marv, that's the Alan Iverson effect. He wore a
Speaker 7: shooting sleeve because he had an injury, and now everybody
Speaker 7: wears it for a fashion statement.
Speaker 2: Well, I would wear one on my left arm if
Speaker 2: I could not my right arm. Like my sleeve would
Speaker 2: be on my left.
Speaker 3: Yes, It's funny how these kinds of things like they
Speaker 3: permeate all sports, like baseball has their own versions. I know,
Speaker 3: like for my son's soccer team, every single kid either
Speaker 3: has their wrist taped or their whole hand is now
Speaker 3: taped because like Carim Benzema tapes his whole hand. So
Speaker 3: it's like that's what ballers do. They have their whole
Speaker 3: left hand taped. There's like no reason for it other
Speaker 3: than just looks cool style points yeah, point, yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm finding out old Wilt Chamberlain pictures and they're pure
Speaker 5: knee pads. They're pretty long, but he wears them well
Speaker 5: below his knee and they're just above the sock. It
Speaker 5: makes his look like his sock is almost to his knee.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he got kicked in the shins
Speaker 2: or something, but he didn't wear his knee pads on
Speaker 2: his knees.
Speaker 6: I go back.
Speaker 5: I've got pictures of him at Kansas way way back
Speaker 5: when well running. He's running track doing high jumping, and
Speaker 5: he's wearing they look like shin guards.
Speaker 8: Yes, time and putting on stuff to look tough. How
Speaker 8: much eye black is required, especially when they put all
Speaker 8: over their cheeks. They look like they're in kiss or
Speaker 8: something like that to block the glare of the sun
Speaker 8: or the lights of the stadium.
Speaker 2: Well, they're not using it for that anymore. Justin Fields
Speaker 2: would just have this black glob that would be down
Speaker 2: one side of his face. There it does in feels.
Speaker 2: And then Brady used to have a Roethlisberger just had
Speaker 2: like a little a little bit there under his eyes.
Speaker 2: Brady would have just a little bit under his eyes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, I think the forefather of EyeBlack too much
Speaker 5: EyeBlack would be John Randall, their defensive tackle for the Vikings,
Speaker 5: his stream down his foe.
Speaker 2: I think Ray Bentley, Colts checking. I think a linebacker
Speaker 2: had a little bit of that. All right, let me
Speaker 2: take a break. We'll come back. We'll get phone call
Speaker 2: back after this.
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Speaker 2: Seton Would you update the poll results this hour?
Speaker 3: Yep, I'd be happy to. Okay, I actually got a
Speaker 3: few of them going on alrighty, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: love yeah, here's what I threw up there without asking you,
Speaker 3: and actually we can change whenever you want. Biggest winner
Speaker 3: from the Combine this weekend Xavier Worthy from Texas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: had a monster showing a four after running a four
Speaker 3: two five. That dude was flying.
Speaker 2: He also had a forty one inch vertical that well,
Speaker 2: both of those are crazy elite, but forty one inch vertical.
Speaker 3: He's really interesting too, because you're like, how does he
Speaker 3: fit into the NFL right now?
Speaker 2: Well, well, he had a pretty good season as a freshman.
Speaker 2: He didn't have a thousand yards receiving, but it felt
Speaker 2: like their receiving corps was underrated. Now they're going to
Speaker 2: have two guys who are going to be drafted. But
Speaker 2: who is it? Mitchell? Mitchell is the other kid with
Speaker 2: the Texas. He was really good as well, But I
Speaker 2: don't I think Worthy said that he would be on
Speaker 2: special teams. So could you imagine him as the gunner
Speaker 2: out there one of the sides there trying to go
Speaker 2: down on the punt return. Maybe he could return some
Speaker 2: punts as well, but with that speed, you got to
Speaker 2: find someplace for him. What else do you fc?
Speaker 3: Let's say, so, Biggest winner from the Combine this weekend
Speaker 3: Worthy from Texas, Caleb Williams seemed to win the Combine
Speaker 3: without really doing much. Yeah, or JJ McCarthy from Michigan.
Speaker 2: Feels like JJ McCarthy one because given credit, he showed
Speaker 2: up at the gumbine, all right.
Speaker 3: I mean he put himself out there when other people didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did he run in the forty yard dash? I
Speaker 2: didn't think he did, But then Sam Hartman, Notre Dame quarterback,
Speaker 2: did run. Do we give him credit for showing up
Speaker 2: at the combine and running? We're giving you credit for
Speaker 2: things that players used to do all the time.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin now not those two no offense, but they
Speaker 7: had to go. Caleb Williams didn't have.
Speaker 2: To show up. No, Well, he did show up. He
Speaker 2: didn't do anything other than I think he just did interviews.
Speaker 2: He didn't even do medical So but you know, once again,
Speaker 2: my source who was out there for the weekend said
Speaker 2: that separation between one, two, and three those quarterbacks is
Speaker 2: very very minimal. That he could they're sort of interchangeable.
Speaker 2: He thinks Caleb Williams is going one, and Jade and
Speaker 2: Daniels two, and then Drake May three. Yeah.
Speaker 5: PAULM it's interesting that Field Yates said he as JJ
Speaker 5: McCarthy as like this twenty seventh overall prospect, prospect, but
Speaker 5: possibly the sixth pick of the draft. And it almost
Speaker 5: feels like groundhogs they remember. And this is not a cop,
Speaker 5: but years ago when a guy like Christian Ponder, who
Speaker 5: was considered a second tier quarterback, all of a sudden
Speaker 5: was picked me. I don't know, maybe eleventh or twelfth
Speaker 5: by the Vikings. You've always said it could be dangerous
Speaker 5: to reach and fall in love.
Speaker 2: Don't get a quarterback, get your quarterback. And then that
Speaker 2: draft that felt like everybody had to have a quarterback,
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, Jake Locker like, we got
Speaker 2: to get a quarterback. And I like Jake Locker but
Speaker 2: didn't think of his first round pick. But that's what happens.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're like, uh, there's a run on quarterbacks. Let's
Speaker 2: go get one. Get the one who suits you, fits you.
Speaker 2: But Baker and Bozeman, Hey Baker, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Happy money, Danny, every money, gentlemen. You know, everyone's talking.
Speaker 10: It seems as though everyone's talking about the fact that
Speaker 10: Caitlyn Clark breaking pistol Peat's record at the pre throw
Speaker 10: line was anti climatic, and to me, it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 10: To me was because in doing so, she was both
Speaker 10: metaphorically and literally because this was it wasn't just a
Speaker 10: free throw, it was a technical foul free throw. So
Speaker 10: she was both metaphorically and literally. She stands alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she she was out there by herself. I get it.
Speaker 2: She had the moment. I think if you asked her,
Speaker 2: she would like a logo three instead of a free throw.
Speaker 4: But Charity did that though she did ch already hit
Speaker 4: the logo three. Yeah, all right, how about a nice lamp,
Speaker 4: you know, something like that. Maybe maybe a nice you know,
Speaker 4: Chris fifteen foot jump shot something like that.
Speaker 7: Yes, Mart, And I think all of Caitlin Clark's business
Speaker 7: partners did everything right. They had the big, big mural
Speaker 7: or the big poster. No Nike, Yeah, Nike. Jake from
Speaker 7: State Farm who Okay, he needs a lifetime contract because
Speaker 7: he'll never get it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm wondering about this. Now there's Jake from State Farm.
Speaker 2: Will Jake from State Farm ever do anything else? Acting wise? Oh? So,
Speaker 2: first paragraph of the obit? Yeah, how about the guy
Speaker 2: from Liberty Mutual who's there with the ostrich, the liberty liberty?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the young looking No no, no, not the
Speaker 2: young no no, the guy who has the mustache.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Doug does he gets a character?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The woman from AT and T.
Speaker 5: Okay, they don't give her name, do they? No, Flow
Speaker 5: from Progressive, Flow from Progressive, run man, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5: I think Flow is talented.
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 2: I think she's really talented. I don't know if Flow
Speaker 2: does anything else. What's the woman's name from AT and T?
Speaker 2: She's a comedian or an actress? Seatan oh?
Speaker 3: Uh oh yeah, the Lily. What's your name is?
Speaker 2: Like, uh, Lily?
Speaker 3: Her character name Melania. But what's her troll or something?
Speaker 3: What's her character's name is Lily from AT and T? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: anybody else that comes to mind? Yeah, poem.
Speaker 5: The Flow from Progressive is an actress named Stephanie Courtney.
Speaker 5: She's an actress and she tried to be in TV
Speaker 5: show and she did a lot of like small appearances
Speaker 5: of movies and TV shows throughout the two thousands.
Speaker 2: She's good, she's funny, crushing. I don't know if she's
Speaker 2: going to get another job. Jake from State Farm, I
Speaker 2: don't think so. He had a lifetime contract, you gotta
Speaker 2: sign it. I think so. I think they should give
Speaker 2: him a lifetime contract. Two hours in the books on
Speaker 2: this Monday. More phone calls coming up. Mike Florio will
Speaker 2: join us final hour on the way