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Speaker 1: today paul A Tino and you at home again, the

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Speaker 1: good one. No it wasn't. The Giants have now lost

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Speaker 1: They failed you today on many many fronts. And consequently, now,

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Speaker 1: You know what stinks about this, Russ. The Giants only

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Speaker 1: to ten at worst in this game, right right, And

426
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: here's the problem right now, instead of a twenty to

427
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: ten lead or something even better than that, of course

428
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: you want Ross to make the point, So let's say

429
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: at worst you should have that lead. Instead, you're only

430
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: a bike two and you know you're gonna get the

431
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: ball to start the third quarter. So part of the

432
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: thought process does need to be, well, god bless, we

433
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: got this two point lead, and we're getting the ball

434
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: back in about fifteen minutes after we come out of

435
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: the locker room. Maybe that's a very comfortable feeling as

436
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: opposed to why risk putting anything in harm's way. You

437
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: have to contemplate that as part of the equation, because

438
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys all talked about this in the locker room afterwards,

439
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: that that stretch of time right there, that series and

440
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: them getting the lead at halftime was the entire momentum

441
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: switch and turning factor for them in the game. I

442
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't necessarily buy that, and and that's

443
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: not sticking enough for for them Giants going for it.

444
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: To me, the backbreaker in that first half was the

445
00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: jar win forty two yards touchdown. Right, So if I'm Paul,

446
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like leaning the way I would feel

447
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: when I go in the locker room with what Paul

448
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: wo said, because I'm going in the locker room knowing

449
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: I should have been up to three. That's the that's

450
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: the least seventeen to three. You can't. You can't get

451
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: the first town and start to five and you come

452
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: away with threes after a turnovers. Coach Mark, you heard

453
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: us say it was one for five. You're talking about

454
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: possessions from the two, seven, eight, and ten Okay, yeah,

455
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: that sounds that's that's tough. Those that's tough. You don't

456
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: you're not getting seven in there. But going into the

457
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: locker room, like Paul said, I know I'm getting the

458
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: ball back in the second half. But the problem is

459
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: when my momentum has changed going into the locker room,

460
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm already ticked off because i should have at the

461
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: least fourth on the board and I'm going in the

462
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: locker room after I dominated these guys and I'm losing.

463
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: That's a bad taste. Still, your entire locker room, every

464
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: one of your players has to be feeling that that's

465
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: that's bad, Coach Marvin, that's bad. Yeah, I have to

466
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: regroup and I have to get them back in tune

467
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: to what this game, what's happening in this game. And

468
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: then I got to drive that ball back back down

469
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: Dallas and um and you know what, you know what

470
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: makes it worse, Coach Marvin, because the entire thing about

471
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: deferring the darn kickoff is the concept that you're gonna

472
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: come right out at the start of the third quarter

473
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: and you're gonna drive the ball down and score. And

474
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: what do the Giants do? Not only did they compound

475
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: the problem by getting themselves behind at halftime. They come out,

476
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: they drive in a Dallas territory and they wind up

477
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: getting sacked on third down, taking out of field goal range,

478
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: and they kick it away there by erasing any potential

479
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: advantage they would have had by taking the second half kickoff.

480
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: It was a horrible swing of events. Yeah, it was,

481
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: and that that's what that game was mainly about the

482
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: swing of momentum. And we were in the game, and

483
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: I think we were in the game to the end,

484
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: and it's just the momentum swings was so large towards Dallas.

485
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: It hurt us do that game. And uh, it was

486
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: a shame that it ended up that all right, as always,

487
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: Coach Marv, thank you very much, Marvel, Coach Marvel, all right,

488
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Two zero five one three is

489
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: the number. Let's go up to Syracuse and check in

490
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: with Mike the afternoon. Mike, you're on with Russe and Paul. Hey,

491
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: what's going on, gentlemen, how you doing today? We're all, uh,

492
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: we're all a little frustrated as giants. Stands clearly, um,

493
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: but I completely disagree with the first caller there. I

494
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: think gentlemen, is actually doing a really good job. Um

495
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: if you look at it, like he's nailing on draft

496
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: picks even later in the rounds. You know, we have

497
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: quite a few, uh picks that he's hit. You know,

498
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: even look at Slayton for example, Um, just as one example.

499
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: You know, he's a six round draft pick. I believe

500
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: it was. And you've been a huge factor on his team.

501
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: We have a lot of young players. He was you know,

502
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: he was a five and he was No, you're right,

503
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: it's it's ironic though, and and actually coach mob brought

504
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: it up. Uh. We we've been applauding slat and the

505
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: young man's been terrific. He goes up and gets them.

506
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: Uh you know, he goes up and makes place. The

507
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: last night he happened to not have himself a good game.

508
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: But having said that, listen, Mike, I agree with you.

509
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's frustrated. And you know what, nobody's more frustrated.

510
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure that than the GM and coach, but that

511
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: comes with the territory. But we just want to point

512
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: the finger everywhere. You know, I don't think Sherman has

513
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: been given a very fair chance so far. You know,

514
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: even watching the games. I get frustrated with him because

515
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: he's always got that same look on his face. You know,

516
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: I want a little bit of frustration out there, just

517
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: like the rest of us. But um, as far as

518
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: geentleman goes, though, I just don't know how anybody can

519
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: think he's not doing a good job. All the grief

520
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: that he caught for Daniel Jones, and I think it's

521
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: pretty clear already that he's going to be a franchise quarterback.

522
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: I have a lot of pieces to be happy about,

523
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things to be excited about. It's just

524
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: all we can look at is the bag because we

525
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: keep losing games. Um. But that's that's not even the

526
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: real reason why I called um. What what I'm what

527
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't understand is like, why is it so hard

528
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: for us to get some run blocking? Like what is

529
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: going on with that offensive line? Well, we've all been

530
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: kind of saying that, uh, you know, talking about not

531
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: enough push upfront, in particular, not enough push in the

532
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: middle of the line. It's crazy because, like you know,

533
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: Giants football growing up, because I've been a Giants fan

534
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: in my whole life. I'm thirty two years old. But

535
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: it's always have been It's always been about smash mouth football,

536
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, good block and good defense, and it's just like,

537
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I love take Bon Barkley to death, but

538
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: he can't do any and he gets the ball and

539
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: he's getting hit too yards you know in the backfield.

540
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: It's it's frustrating. I don't know, well, I I would

541
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: also think though Mike, and you know he's not nobody's

542
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: made excuses, but I don't think sae Quan is. You know,

543
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: you know he's not a hundred percent come still still

544
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: still not all the way back. But but you you

545
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: do make a point because some of that was happening before.

546
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: Um Paul and I have have always said it to

547
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: a blue in the face, give me the four yards boom,

548
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know, because he's got the talent. There's

549
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: no push, there's literally no push. And we've invested big

550
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: resources in the offensive line. I mean, even Will hern Andez.

551
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be this big mauler and by all means,

552
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: I love what I saw out of him last night,

553
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, getting scrappy and backing up the quarterback and

554
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: all that. But how can we not just hand the ball,

555
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: especially with Halapio and center He's a big, massive man.

556
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: Who between those two guys, you know what I mean? Like,

557
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't understand how it's so hard to hand the

558
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: ball off knows to push the pile a little bit

559
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: and just get four yards. I can't even see that anymore,

560
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? The half bay, we can't

561
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: even see it go four or five yards anymore. They're

562
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: always getting pushed back. They don't understand. Look, look, Mike,

563
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: you we're talking about four red zone, five red zone appearances.

564
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: You only cash in a touchdown on one of them,

565
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: and and the one came on a one yard touchdown pass,

566
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: not a run. You have an all pro, you have

567
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: an all pro running back, and you're not scoring. Like

568
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: we're not talking about from the twenty on in. We're

569
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: talking from the ten on in. So, Mike, you make

570
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: a very good point. It has to be corrected, my friend,

571
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Thanks very much for the call. Appreciate it. Russ I

572
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: want to make one comment about the forty nine ers.

573
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Uh they rebuilt their team when they brought Shanahan in

574
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: three years ago after Kelly had gone two and fourteen. Uh.

575
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: So Shanahan comes in and basically they're trying to reach

576
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: assitate the franchise. They go six and ten, four and twelve,

577
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: and this year they are eight and oh in phase

578
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: three of their new plan. That's how it's supposed to work.

579
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: And the Giants right now are in phase two of

580
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: a three phase plan. So that particular caller that we

581
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: just talked to, he gets it. He understands the niners

582
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: of the blueprint for what the Giants want to do.

583
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: They want to get a lot younger, which they've done.

584
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: They want to get a much better locker room together,

585
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: which they've done. They want to be able to draft

586
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: a lot of really good players, which they've done, and

587
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: they want to be able to use a lot of

588
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: cap money to bring in some really good veterans, which

589
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: they plan to do this offseason. So he's absolutely right.

590
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman is on the right track. He's got a plan,

591
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: and I still believe that Phase three is gonna be

592
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: really fun. We just got to get there. Well. Right

593
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: now we're in phase to in phase two at two

594
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: and seven with the Giants, with the Jets coming up.

595
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's where you hear the frustration, you know,

596
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: I mean everybody's frustrated. Everybody to zero one one three

597
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: is the number. Let's go down to Virginia check in

598
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: with Brian. Hello, Brian, you're on with the Russ and Paul.

599
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: What's going on? Paul? What's going on? Right? What's up

600
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: you guys? What's up? Brian? Um? You know, I just

601
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: want to I know we can go down a whole

602
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: laundry list of things that are going on with the team,

603
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to take note that something that

604
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: you say all time, Rust is that you know, this

605
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: this season is not about win the loss. This season

606
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: is about finding out what we have, Um and the

607
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: development of these players. These young guys are in here,

608
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: and we can't look at this season in the vacuum

609
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: and say, well, these guys are losing. So it's you know,

610
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: we look like a terrible team. You know, we're a

611
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: progressive team where you know, Dave Gentleman has done a

612
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: great job and turning on turning over the roster and

613
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: select the good draft picks. So we just gotta be

614
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: a little patient. And one thing that I got that

615
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: I heard David Bill said the other day is when

616
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: you're and when when your team is losing, the weights losing,

617
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: you want to find out about the gods down the

618
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: next to you. You want to find out who's the

619
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: dog on this team? He find out who who is

620
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: a real winners on this team. You're you're You're right.

621
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: That's David's favorite line line. He wants to know exactly

622
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: what my guy next to me is doing. I'll be

623
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: damned if I didn't hear, if I didn't see that

624
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: Will Fernandez. It's not one of those guys. I mean,

625
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: the way he fought for us for his quarterback team,

626
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy I want to play next

627
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: to you. And I'm not you know, I don't pretend

628
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: to be a fantasy GM or anything like that. I

629
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: leave that to the football guys. But I do believe

630
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: that we are going in the right direction. And um,

631
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, we just gotta have a little patient. We're

632
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: spoiled by you know, the era winning. You know that

633
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: we have with Eli in the previous series of winning

634
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: that we're so spoiled and they get him. It's not

635
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: trying to build this team like two dollars fIF team

636
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: where we just get a bunch of free agents and

637
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: then the next year it's ross to turn over into disaster.

638
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: We want to build from the ground up and he

639
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: knows the way to do it, and so that's what

640
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: I believe. Well, listen, Brian, let's let's look at the

641
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: last uh, his two drafts. Let's put it this way.

642
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can complain about the draft, but

643
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: let's look at it his three first round draft picks

644
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: UH this past year. I don't think. I don't think

645
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: there's any complaints, paints, and and I want to see

646
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: these young guys are in there going through turmoil. I

647
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: want to see them. Um. I want to see this

648
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: guy's fight and and see a little bit of resiliency,

649
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: you know, just the same thing that they wanted to

650
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: see in Daniel Jones Kenny handle adversity. So we're gonna

651
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: find out in a year two of these guys, you know,

652
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: the draft, the draft class from this year. We're gonna

653
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: find out can these guys regroup and handle adversity and

654
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: play through it. We're gonna find out what we got

655
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: next year. I'll tell you one thing, Brian, and before

656
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: I let you go and let you finish up. But

657
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: in terms of handling adversity, yes, Uh, Daniel Jones has

658
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: to protect the ball. He can't fumble as much gotta

659
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: be careful with the interceptions. But the one thing we've

660
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: learned about Daniel Jones, he is resilient. He takes a

661
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: licking and he he keeps on ticking, he keeps coming.

662
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: You know, he is one guy. You see the look

663
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: on his face. He is playing to the last second.

664
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: So whether you like the results or not, that's a fact.

665
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: So I agree with you, Brian, Thanks very much for

666
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: the call. Thank you all right, buddy, Thank you. To

667
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: zero five one three is the number. Of course, you're

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673
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: oh Io and check in with Adam. Good afternoon, Adam.

674
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: You're on with Russ and Paul. Hey, guys, how you doing.

675
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: How you doing, Adam? Not too bad. I'm actually halfway

676
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: to Columbus. I'm on I ad E West driving home.

677
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: I came in to go to the game last night,

678
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm before I get to the football

679
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: part of it, man, I'm getting real tired. Of making

680
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: this drive frustrated about what I saw. In fairness to

681
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: you number one, God bless you, you know, because we're

682
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: talking about people being frustrated. But I would think coming

683
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: in on a from Monday night game and now driving back,

684
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: that's gotta add your frustration. So good for you, Adam. Yeah,

685
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: and look it compounds it a little bit. I'll tell

686
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: you what else is really leaving a bad taste outside

687
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: the actions and os is I'm getting real tired of

688
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: going in that stadium and hearing the away teams here

689
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: almost as loud as the Giants fans. It's just it's

690
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: just a hard pill to swallow, man, especially when it's

691
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: the Cowboy. It's just nauseated. We week after week, year

692
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: after year. I hear that when I go there, and

693
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm going, what the heck is going on? This is

694
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: something's got to give here. Well, I guess you know

695
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: the thousand fathers and failures and orphans, So maybe that's

696
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: why not everyone's at the game. Well, you know what

697
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: the Adam, when it comes to Cowboys, they got a

698
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: lot of fans and travel and they do travel well,

699
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: and they're all, I mean, all over the place. You're right,

700
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: They do travel very well, so that I mean, it

701
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: wasn't That's not anything new, Adam, you know, Yeah, and

702
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Adam remember one thing too. These things tend to go

703
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: in cycles. You know. There have been four or five

704
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: year stretches where the Giants owned the Eagles, and then

705
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: vice versa, the Eagles on the Giants. Giants owned the

706
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys for several years. Now the Cowboys own the Giants.

707
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: Same thing with the Redskins. These rivalries in the division,

708
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: they will usually go in four or five year stretches

709
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: and then it kind of turns around the other way.

710
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: So you know, that's just part of being a longtime fan. Yeah,

711
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 1: that's that's a fair point. So I'm ready for the flow.

712
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: I've seen enough of that. Okay, Okay, that's fair. So

713
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. I guess I don't share, uh,

714
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: the optimism of the three year plan like the last

715
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: couple of callers. I hope I'm wrong. I hope you

716
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: guys are right. I hope you're seeing something I'm not.

717
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: But it's you know, one area is a concern. I

718
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: think Gettleman is hit in the draft. Can't discute that

719
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: you've done some great things there, but this whole notion

720
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: of you know, hog Molly's old school football, We're gonna bock,

721
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna run. We gotta say we're gonna stop the run.

722
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: It's the exact opposite. It's to me, it's concerning with

723
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: all the resources you're putting the line Soldier Rammers Zeitler,

724
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: you know the d line. Yeah, I liked extra lawrence

725
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: to your point, rush, no one could complain. But I

726
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: still have a little bit of trafic asan about what

727
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: we gave up to get him. Uh. You know, I

728
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: thought the trenches were where we would start winning and

729
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: start seeing significant signs of improvements in It doesn't appear

730
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: to be the case. Hopefully it will. Well listen at him,

731
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think anybody that's again we're talking

732
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: about the word if if the word for the day

733
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: is frustration, we're talking about that. I think that is

734
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: definitely a case in point up front. And you know,

735
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: but you weren't rebuilding the trenches in a year now.

736
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: If you're asking me, are we frustrated about I don't

737
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: see enough push from the offensive line, agreed, And uh, listen,

738
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: I think we saw some spots this year where the

739
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: defensive line played very well. I mean, it's it's gonna

740
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy. What was the thirty one fourteen against

741
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: them against the Patriots. I mean, I mean they the

742
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: defensive line played their butts off in that game, bucks

743
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: off three in it. But we want to see it

744
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, So you're right, but listen, yeah,

745
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: I agree. I happen to agree with the hog Molly's

746
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: That's what's frustrating because you want that and you got

747
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: yourself at all pro running back and you're not getting

748
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: in four four times were they have five times, you

749
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: can not getting in on four other times in the

750
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: red zone from within the ten ye oldline. That's where

751
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: the frustration comes in. So I agree with And there's

752
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: a lot of resources dumped into it. So I guess

753
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: maybe I had an inflated, you know, sense of hope

754
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: about how good it would be. Um, you know, I've

755
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: listened to coach Marvin. I think the big turning point

756
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: in the game was the third and twelve touchdown to

757
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper. I don't know if it was a

758
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: little deflating before half time to lose the lead, but

759
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: you know, I think that I think the atmosphere was good.

760
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: I think the I think the overall dynamic was good.

761
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: I think everybody's spirits were good. But I think when

762
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: Cooper sunk us on that third and twelve, to me,

763
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: that's that's onely, that's when the game turn well. I

764
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: would agree with that to a point. But the reason

765
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: I said, and even though the Giants still had the

766
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: lead at twelve ten okay to me, to me, what

767
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: was frustrating was that that touchdown because it was forty

768
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: two yards uh and what was it again, Adam. It

769
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: was that explosive big play being given up by the

770
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: defense once again. And to me that was demoralizing because

771
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: to me, it was here we go again and Jack

772
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: Rabbit faned on it, you know, as the guy as

773
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: Jarwin was going in. Just remember this, the less second

774
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: field goal at the end of the half was the

775
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: final lead change of the game. And and there's nothing

776
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: like this psychological impact of something like that when you

777
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: head into the locker room for fifteen minutes. That is

778
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: a very very difficult pill to swallow. Well, conversion percentage

779
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: felt like I kept hearing the third down Rocky team

780
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: over and over and we just couldn't get them off.

781
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: Dallas was four of eleven. The Giants were five or sixteen.

782
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: Four of eleven is only is only thirty six percent

783
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, and this is a team that was

784
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: over for the season. So you know, to be honest,

785
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, if you're the Giants, you're coming away feeling

786
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: decent at four of eleven. Yeah, I agree, it actually

787
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: seemed worse than the numbers, so well. Yeah, but but again,

788
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: when you're giving up those huge explosive plays, huge explosive plays,

789
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: is nothing more frustrating than that, Adam, Thanks very much

790
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: for the call, buddy. Hopefully the next trip in is

791
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: a good one, all right, take it easy. Two oh

792
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: one four or five one three is the number. That's

793
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: an interesting number that you just came up with, you know,

794
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: which is why you have to peel back the layers

795
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: of the onion all all the time and say, Okay,

796
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: what really happened here? What was good? What was bad?

797
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: What can be fixed? What aren't you sure about? There's

798
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: good and bad and everything. To be perfectly frank with you,

799
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: very rarely is there a game where everything was miserable

800
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: and you could not gain anything out of it. Those

801
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: are very, very very rare and last night is no exception, Russ.

802
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: There were actually some good things that happened last night.

803
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Cody Lattimer was outstanding on kickoff returns coming

804
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: in and Balentine played by the way he came in,

805
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: and he replaced a Grant Haley as the nickel corner.

806
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Yesterday they benched Haley and said, Balantine, you out of

807
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: concussion protocol. Give it a shot. I thought Corey Ballentine

808
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: actually played pretty well last night. But the one that

809
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned, and that to me again, that just added

810
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: to the frustration. We talked about big explosive plays being

811
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: given up by the defense. You special teams. Cody Lattiman

812
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: gives you two possessions at the fifty yard line for

813
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: not you know. That to me was extremely frustrated because

814
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: the great runs, I mean two of them are really

815
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: really nice runs. So to zero, one, four, five, one,

816
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: three is the number. Let's go to uh, our buddy

817
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: in Columbia, Maryland, who I'm sure is a little frustrated

818
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: himself this morning, our buddy Lenn, and I should also

819
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: jayon before Lenn starts. I thought that Leonard Williams and

820
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: his Giants debut gave them some some very solid snaps too.

821
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: That was another positive. Speaking of Leonards, here's Len from Columbia, Maryland. Hello, Lenn, Hey, guys,

822
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: how you doing to see you last night? Well, hanging

823
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: in there. Let me say real quick, it was I

824
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: spent a little bit of time with paul last night

825
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: before the show started, and Paula was good to see

826
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: you again. I'm glad you were able to come up Land,

827
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: and and I'm glad you're able to see the rest

828
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: of the crew too, because it's get to foot faces

829
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: to the hole to the whole. I caught them all. Uh,

830
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: and I did see John as well. Um, you know

831
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: I want to I want to say something about Adam's comment. Um,

832
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, good good for him, real Giants fan making

833
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: that trip all the way from Ohio. Uh do you

834
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: know to see the Giants. I don't know how many

835
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: times he does it, but I know the feeling because

836
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: I got to climb in my car after a loss

837
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: and Jen drives out for a long time and I'm

838
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: doing it eight times a year. And you were also

839
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: doing it for a lot longer than Adams doing it.

840
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh my goodness, goes back to sixty sixty

841
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: four in the family of Russ. So yeah, there's a

842
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: lot of drives up and down that turnpike and it's

843
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: it's not an easy drive, you know, for anybody for

844
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: a loss. And unfortunately, you know, they're losing a lot

845
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: of game. They're losing a lot of games, and a

846
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: lot of those games are at home. They're losing home games.

847
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Well coming down when when you're two and seven, you're

848
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: losing him at home on the road in the parkroom there,

849
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: and uh, you know you send and uh, you know

850
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people may feel differently, but you know

851
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: you sent your sending your best customers home angry. And

852
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: that's never that's never a good idea, um, you know,

853
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: in any in any business. Um. One of the one

854
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: of the things I wanted to say to Adam. Um.

855
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: And it's kind of interesting. And this may may not

856
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: be the time for the conversation. It may be really

857
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: an offseason conversation. But you know, the stadium is sold out.

858
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: So all those Dallas Cowboys fans are getting their tickets

859
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: from hoopo. Well, I mean they're going through the internet,

860
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: and when who they buying them from to buying them

861
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: from buying them from Giants fans and who have personal

862
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: seat licenses, who or corporations who have those tickets. I mean,

863
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: they're not walking up to the box office, you know what.

864
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: I want to be very careful here because and I'm

865
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: not going to tell these secrets. And Russ you don't

866
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: know the answer to this either. There are a lot

867
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: of corporates who have season ticket packages to the Giants,

868
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: and there are many of people's who are brokers, and

869
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: they'll either do business on the Internet or they'll do

870
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: business through their own services who wind up getting clusters

871
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: and clusters and clusters of tickets from people who are

872
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: not real fans, who have purchased tickets in some cases

873
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: with the idea just to sell them to these folks

874
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: who's on the secondary market. So to be honest, I

875
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: don't know how many out of town fans get their tickets,

876
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: even over the internet from real hometown fans, to be fair,

877
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what that number is, Okay, but you know,

878
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: the tickets originally are coming the tickets are originally coming

879
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: from the Giants to people who have purchased the seat licenses.

880
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: You want to believe, you want to believe that Giants.

881
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: You know it's Giants tickets that are going to I'm

882
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: sure that doesn't make ms amarymst ticianes. But but Len,

883
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: you're right, but and and the b is this. I mean, um,

884
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: there are people who who I know a lot of them,

885
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: who are season ticket holders who have the PSLs, and

886
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: they're making money selling their tickets. So that's just that's

887
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: just the way it is. Listen, Paul and I get

888
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: frustrated because because of all these seats were sitting in

889
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: the press box and we're looking at across and we

890
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: see what was it is it the second level, the

891
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: first level to its coming out at halftime? There's nobody

892
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: there because they're all inside eating you know what I'm saying,

893
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: to pay a lot of money they have that to

894
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: have that privilege. Yeah, I I understand, but but but no, no,

895
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: I know that. But it's a damned if you do

896
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: your damned if you don't. That's what that's what is land. Yeah,

897
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 1: well it's it's um, you know, if we start winning,

898
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: maybe people will hang on to those, you know, we'll

899
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: come to the games instead of trying its own. Let

900
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: me get credit to the Giant. So no, when this

901
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: when the seat license things started out, um. One of

902
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: the things they told people in that first year, look,

903
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: don't get into this if you think it's a money

904
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: making thing. Get into it because you want to see

905
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: the Giants game, not because you're gonna do it like

906
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: you're investing, you know, like you're buying stock and Amazon

907
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: and hoping that it's gonna go up. I mean, they

908
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: were upfront with us, they said, look, don't treat this

909
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: like you know, it's a money making scheme, because it's

910
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: never gonna be a money making scheme. Paul, I don't

911
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: care how you how you cut it. It's just long run.

912
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: It's it's not worth the trouble to try to get

913
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: rid of them the way people are getting rid of them.

914
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: But the sad thing last night is I'm sitting in

915
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: my section. My six folks are there. You know, I

916
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: got two part got six tickets. I got two partners,

917
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: so you know, then they've been with me forever, and

918
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: you know, I look around and it's it's it's people

919
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: I've never seen before. Some Giants fans and I'll land

920
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: a lot of Cowboys fans. But I'm thinking, where the

921
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: heck are all these people that every Sunday? You know,

922
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: I see them every you know, every game last night,

923
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: they last night, they weren't. There a lot of circumstances

924
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: for that. Let me let me say this. You know

925
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: we were in this game, cheez. The Cooper touchdown was

926
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: a backbreaker. Oh my goodness, jeez, you know we were,

927
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: we were. We had chances last night, Russ, Like you say,

928
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, the kickoff returns put us in position early

929
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: on the interception. You know, jeez, we're inside the five

930
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: yard line. We can't score a touchdown, we kick a

931
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: field goal. You know, we were hanging in there pretty

932
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: well towards the end. The Cooper touchdown kind of opened

933
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: it up, and then things things went the wrong way

934
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: from you know, from there, Paul. The one thing that's

935
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: frustrating to me, and I know you, you're you. I

936
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: think you understand to bet your defense better than I

937
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: understand it for sure. You know, to hear Elliot talk about,

938
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: you know, the easiest hundred forty yards I've ever gained

939
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: in my life. That's what he said. You've seen that quote.

940
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: Let let let listen, buddy, don't want to rush off.

941
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, but we've got one. We've got

942
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: a couple of calls we're not going to be able

943
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: to get everybody in. So the people we can't get in,

944
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: we apologize and ask you to call back tomorrow. But

945
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: we'll wrap today. Show up with Sean in Connecticut. Sean,

946
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: how are you doing today? How are you doing good?

947
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: What's going on? Sean? Um? My first time falling? I

948
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: just wanted to say two quick things. Um. One of

949
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: them with Daniel Jones, I love the guy. I think

950
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great quarterback. He's obviously got a

951
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: fumbling problem, Um, Sean mat Sean may we asked you,

952
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: if you're on speaker, could you get off speaker because

953
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: it sounded kind of like muffled or hollow underwater. Almost. Yeah,

954
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: it's better, Yes, yes it is, Sean all right. So

955
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, was fumbling problem? Is he doing anything

956
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: to try and fix it? And one thing that I

957
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: was just trying to think of anything and I see

958
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: a lot more quarterbacks doing this and I wasn't really

959
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: a fan of it at first. The gloves throwing a

960
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver glove is non throwing hand. I I think

961
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: I think, you know, at some point in time, that

962
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: may be an option. Maybe they'll try it with him,

963
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's something a lot of quarterbacks have done,

964
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: saying that it helps them hold onto the ball in

965
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: the pocket better when they get hit. And I'm sure

966
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: at some point that's going to be an option. Maybe

967
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: that's the next option, Maybe we see it this week.

968
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. I do know what.

969
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: He was a duke, and I've quoted the numbers. He

970
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: did not have fumblitis at duke. Sure he had some,

971
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: but it was not an epidemic. This year is a rookie,

972
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: it's been an epidemic. There's also Sean and I would

973
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: agree with you, you know, and then coach Sherman has said,

974
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: got you know, he has to work on that. I

975
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: think it's a couple of things. I said. Number one,

976
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: I think this is just me. I think it's it's

977
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: it's just sliding. It's how he's you know, sliding in

978
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: it or is he protecting the ball. Also, in fairness,

979
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: when you're whacked from behind, well, when you're whacked period

980
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: by a big on rushing defensive lineman is one thing.

981
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: But when you're whacked and you has whacked when you're

982
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: in the process of trying to throw the ball. I mean,

983
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: that's not a question of just holding on. I mean

984
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: your your your hand is getting whacked. I agree with you.

985
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: It's something that has to be corrected. Yeah, the first

986
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: one he had last night, the wall was tucked away. Yeah,

987
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you ever tried those

988
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: things on, but wide receiver's playing for a reason. They worked.

989
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: It looks there have been quarterbacks who have done this

990
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: in recent years. In fact, Eli Uh started sporting the

991
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: glove on his other hand as well, on one of

992
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: his hands. Um, it's it's something we may see at

993
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: some point. I don't think it's a terrible suggestion. It

994
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: could happen. Obviously, everybody's frustrated. And you know something, Sean,

995
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: I don't think, well, you know what, I'm not gonna

996
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: speak for um, I'm not gonna speak for Daniel Jones

997
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: because I don't know that he's frustrated because he just

998
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: keeps on coming. I'm sure he gets annoyed with himself

999
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: because he's the leader. And let me tell you, for

1000
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: a us, your guy, he is definitely the leader. Those

1001
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: guys look to him. So it has to be corrected.

1002
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: But you're right, listen to two and seven something needs

1003
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: to be fixed. But it's not just Daniel Joness fumbles.

1004
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: It's a whole lot of other things like from the

1005
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: red zone and everything else. But listen, Sean, we gotta

1006
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: wrap it up today. So thank you very much for

1007
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: the call. Thank everybody else for the call. My thanks

1008
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: to our buddy who's at the controls Pierson Butler big time.

1009
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: Thanks to Pauli Dots, Paul de Tino, am Russ Saulisburg

1010
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: and has always thank you to fans because without you,

1011
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: we'd have nobody here to be talking to. I will

1012
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow on Big Blue Kickoff Live.