Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe
Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here today with a
Speaker 1: little holiday recap. We have decided to recap Bachelor Winter
Speaker 1: Games that came out back in twenty eighteen. Maybe this
Speaker 1: will correlate a little bit with the new Bachelor Home
Speaker 1: Rental show in a sense, because there's a little bit
Speaker 1: of competition involved.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, I didn't even think about.
Speaker 1: That really was the first thing I thought about.
Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely one of a handful of Baucher spin offs.
Speaker 2: I mean, they had that singing show at one point.
Speaker 2: I think it was called Listen to Your Heart. Oh,
Speaker 2: they did Winter Games.
Speaker 1: I've never seen Listen to your Heart.
Speaker 2: I don't think i've seen it either. It was a
Speaker 2: bunch of like aspiring singers, right, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: I heard it was I heard from.
Speaker 2: Actually I think I did see some of it.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of it, but I remember hearing
Speaker 1: from people that worked on it that they really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure it's fun for people that work on
Speaker 2: the show to switch it up and do something different,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure Winter Games was one of those things,
Speaker 2: Like you know, they're in a house in the winter,
Speaker 2: different location, all star cast people from different countries, Like
Speaker 2: there was a lot to be excited about it. I
Speaker 2: feel like when this launched, and it was the concept
Speaker 2: of Bachelor Winter Games was that it was airing in
Speaker 2: alignment with the Winter Olympics, so it was kind of
Speaker 2: Bachelor's take on a Winter Olympics meets Bachelor competition dating show.
Speaker 1: I remember it because I watched the first episode because
Speaker 1: the day the first episode came out was the day
Speaker 1: I found out that I was cast on beca season
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, I actually like what
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on here? Like really, I gotta
Speaker 1: pay attention. I remember watching I don't think I got
Speaker 1: through the whole thing, but I remember watching it like
Speaker 1: a majority of it, and like, Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm doing now.
Speaker 2: Like this is really what it's crazy is. I actually
Speaker 2: have never seen Winter Games. It was my first time
Speaker 2: watching it. But a lot of the people ended up
Speaker 2: being on your season of Paradise, which is kind of
Speaker 2: crazy because the next season of Paradise, the people that
Speaker 2: ended up single on Winter Games filtered their way onto.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny because Bibiana, Kevin and Eric were
Speaker 1: all original cast in Paradise on my season two, so
Speaker 1: they weren't even like, oh it didn't work, you come down.
Speaker 1: They were all original cast, which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean if you didn't find love on
Speaker 2: Winter Games, it kind of set you up for success
Speaker 2: probably going on Paradise because you were able to make
Speaker 2: it down there earlier than you might have if you
Speaker 2: didn't do Winter Games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. One thing I will say before we recap it,
Speaker 1: which we could start recapping it now, My favorite part
Speaker 1: of this was the house, Like I love that. Also
Speaker 1: that like winter cabin looks, that was my favorite part.
Speaker 2: I like it too because Bachelor is so identified by
Speaker 2: the mansion, this like beautiful Spanish home in La And
Speaker 2: to see these people in a very different aesthetic, I
Speaker 2: think it's fun and it's just giving, like cozy winter
Speaker 2: cabin vibes, Like it's a good it's a good feel.
Speaker 2: It's a different setting. It's not a beach, it's not La.
Speaker 2: I feel like, rarely do we see them in this
Speaker 2: setting for longer than like one episode that they've like
Speaker 2: flown somewhere for definitely.
Speaker 1: Okay, So starting from the beginning of the episode, we
Speaker 1: get some intro packages, which is fine, they carry on
Speaker 1: for the intro of this show was just too too long.
Speaker 1: Really have like a we have like a like an
Speaker 1: Olympic ceremony esque style intro that I'm just like, all right,
Speaker 1: but this isn't the Olympics, so so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely trying to mimic an opening ceremony for
Speaker 2: the Olympics, but doing it Bachelor style. And unique about
Speaker 2: this season is they're pulling contestants from different places in
Speaker 2: the world, so like they pulled someone from Bachelor China,
Speaker 2: from Bachelor New Zealand, Australia, UK, Germany. So it's this
Speaker 2: coming together of the countries, which is really cool concept.
Speaker 2: But they do this parade that dead ass is the
Speaker 2: first thirty minutes of this show. They could have picked
Speaker 2: up the pace. Now I know this is twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: TV moves a lot faster now, I think than it did.
Speaker 2: Just media in general, our attention spans are shorter. Social
Speaker 2: media's you know, playing a role in that, so it
Speaker 2: could just feel updated more than anything. Yeah, but it's slow.
Speaker 2: It's a long intro, but we're introduced to some of
Speaker 2: our bachelination phase. We've got Ben Higgins. We've got Bibiana, Dean,
Speaker 2: Claire Crawley, Ashley Eye, so some really strong people that
Speaker 2: they've cast.
Speaker 1: On this show, and I will say they're at the
Speaker 1: like you're so used to if you're watching a spin
Speaker 1: off of Bachelor, you're used to watching Bachler in Paradise,
Speaker 1: where you know, like the first episode, you know. Ever,
Speaker 1: even if like you've never seen, even if you don't
Speaker 1: remember the person from their current season, you after the
Speaker 1: first episode, you know everyone who's there. At the end
Speaker 1: of this episode, I was like, I haven't seen like
Speaker 1: eight of the eight of these people. When they're doing
Speaker 1: the row ceremony, I'm like, how many There's like thirty
Speaker 1: people in the house.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No. It was wild, wild and kind of
Speaker 2: interesting because obviously the show is about this coming together
Speaker 2: of the countries, but they don't show really any of
Speaker 2: the people from the other countries unless they are forming
Speaker 2: a relationship with one of the American Bachelor faves. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which I guess makes sense because we don't know half
Speaker 2: of this cast, and you're more invested in the people
Speaker 2: that you do know, right, Like you know Ashley, I
Speaker 2: you want to see her, you are It's harder to
Speaker 2: get you in and like all of these people from
Speaker 2: Germany and the UK, et cetera. However, it's like, what's
Speaker 2: the point of having all of these people here? And
Speaker 2: there's also an intense language barrier for some of them not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Yuki Yuki, who was also on my first
Speaker 1: season a Paradise as a bartender, but yeah, she didn't
Speaker 1: speak any English.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is challenging to date when there's people
Speaker 2: in the house that are fluent in your language and
Speaker 2: then there's people in the house that really don't speak
Speaker 2: your language at all. Yeah, So there was a little
Speaker 2: bit of that. They have Tristan Ryan come out with
Speaker 2: the flame of love lantern situation to end off the
Speaker 2: opening ceremonies, which was kind of just like so hilarious
Speaker 2: to me because like, I just still feel like that
Speaker 2: is something they would do today, is called Tristan Ryan
Speaker 2: and be like get back here for like our opening ceremonies,
Speaker 2: like they I.
Speaker 1: Would love to know the number of times Trista has
Speaker 1: appeared on a season of Bachelor Bachan Paradisetan like anything better.
Speaker 2: I had to bet who has not been a contestant
Speaker 2: on the most but who has made a guest appearance
Speaker 2: the most in this franchise, Without a doubt, it has
Speaker 2: to be Trista.
Speaker 1: I mean she has to be I would say, if
Speaker 1: I were to throw out a random number, I would
Speaker 1: say over six, over six or seven yeast Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I would think.
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. She's their first Bacherette. She's
Speaker 2: so beloved, she's so fantastic. But yeah, it was just funny.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I feel like twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: this could be twenty twenty five, like Tristan and Ryan
Speaker 2: coming out for the opener. Yeah, and then they had
Speaker 2: two musical performances, which just truthfully felt really unnecessary. I
Speaker 2: was like, can I just see some people stay? Can
Speaker 2: I see any of these contestants talk to any other
Speaker 2: contestant at this point? Like, I've been watching for thirty minutes,
Speaker 2: I'm about to watch two musical performances not really necessary,
Speaker 2: but necessary to play into like the opening ceremony element.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're both in agreeance. It was too long
Speaker 1: in the beginning, Like the ceremony was unnecessary. I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone's going to be mad at that because this
Speaker 1: show is from twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then we get kind of more into the show element. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they get to the house and we find out that
Speaker 2: there's going to be these competitions. The first one is
Speaker 2: a skiing competition, and whoever wins one guy one girl,
Speaker 2: they get to take someone on a date, which honestly
Speaker 2: could be a fun integration into Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, like,
Speaker 2: maybe we keep these competitions, these games and whoever the
Speaker 2: guy other girl that wins, like you get the date
Speaker 2: card or maybe you introduce that halfway, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, I think this. I think this show had to
Speaker 1: be part of the inspiration of Bachelor in Paradise this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so, because I do think like when we
Speaker 1: had our talk with Andrew and Alex, and Andrew mentioning
Speaker 1: like there and I remember even going back there, we
Speaker 1: we had just like we would do nothing Like there
Speaker 1: was like like majority of the days unless you were
Speaker 1: even if you were involved in like the drama, there's
Speaker 1: just so much downtime, which is is just boring.
Speaker 2: Kind of exhausting, and.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, and it almost like I think I think
Speaker 1: the Winter Games. What I realized from watching this first
Speaker 1: episode is they they did a good job of like
Speaker 1: incorporating the games, but this one really still felt drama
Speaker 1: relationship bachelor aesque heavy, like they didn't stair away from that.
Speaker 1: There you see Ashley I cry five times, yea more
Speaker 1: more seven.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I did feel like as much as I
Speaker 2: think the games on the season of Paradise are a
Speaker 2: little more exciting to watch, it did feel like this
Speaker 2: ski competition. It it wasn't like like they were trying
Speaker 2: to make it a competition show. It's still felt like
Speaker 2: they were focusing on like people falling on the skis,
Speaker 2: the girls waiting to see who wins, like rooting for
Speaker 2: the guy that they want to win because they want
Speaker 2: to go on a date. Like the competition did feel
Speaker 2: still very ingrained in the dating element and like both
Speaker 2: sides had something to gain and something to lose. And
Speaker 2: I thought it was fun watching like Leslie be like
Speaker 2: I like Dean and we hit it off last night
Speaker 2: and I want him to win so he can take
Speaker 2: me on a date. And then yeah, so we see
Speaker 2: Kevin wins for the guys. Yeah, Canadians gain competition naturally?
Speaker 1: Also, did I mention Kevin? Yeah, I said he was
Speaker 1: he was on Paradise.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, ute, Yeah, And then Rebecca wins for the girls.
Speaker 2: Rebecca is from wait, let me check, I can't fully
Speaker 2: remember she's from Sweden. So that was good because honestly,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we would have gotten introduced to
Speaker 2: her had she not won. Yeah, And Kevin is kind
Speaker 2: of in this little love Triangles situation with Bibyana and Ashley.
Speaker 2: I Ashley I is. I don't think he really knows
Speaker 2: it yet though he doesn't know, he doesn't know. He
Speaker 2: thinks he's just hitting it off with Bibyana.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Ashley, as much as she's expressing in her
Speaker 1: interviews that she's into Kevin, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: she's actually opening up to him at this point.
Speaker 2: No, I would agree with that. Yeah, he had definitely
Speaker 2: hit it off with Bibiana already. He ends up taking
Speaker 2: her on a date that's not really a surprise to
Speaker 2: anyone except Ashley, who I think like has kind of
Speaker 2: locked in on Kevin and is like, that's the guy
Speaker 2: I want, which I like. I like that about her
Speaker 2: that she's like, I know who I'm looking for and
Speaker 2: it's him, and I'm all in on this person, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to figure out how to make that work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have that as much nowadays on this.
Speaker 2: And she's shameless about it, Like she's like, I'm devastated
Speaker 2: that he took someone else, even though we haven't really
Speaker 2: talked yet. I want that guy, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: be vocal about him until everyone I'm disappointed. Like she
Speaker 2: really is a wear her heart on her sleeve. Like
Speaker 2: there's no gameplay or strategy to her. The way she moves,
Speaker 2: it's all about her feelings and she.
Speaker 1: Is someone that like yeah, like it makes like she
Speaker 1: it just makes so much sense that she was casted
Speaker 1: on this on.
Speaker 2: This show, she's so good because she really like I.
Speaker 1: Walk and like I know there's like all this, I
Speaker 1: don't love it, but like yeah, like that's there for
Speaker 1: the right reasons and all. Like like I watched whenever
Speaker 1: Ashley's eye is on this show, I'm like that she's
Speaker 1: that she is there to fall in love. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going on the show because I'm gonna fall in
Speaker 1: love on this show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she really wants to. And she's like, I
Speaker 2: that's if there's alternative motives, they don't even come close
Speaker 2: to how important finding love is for her.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I love It's great.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Okay, so she doesn't get ass on
Speaker 2: the date. She's crying. She's crying interviews, crying to Ben,
Speaker 2: She's disappointed. What's interesting to me is watching this first episode,
Speaker 2: it does seem like Kevin and Bibyon are kind of
Speaker 2: hitting it off. It seems like maybe like there could
Speaker 2: be something between Ashley and Kevin. But it's so early.
Speaker 2: But spoiler alert, we obviously know because this came out
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, that Ashley I and Kevin end up
Speaker 2: together after the show, right. I think so they are
Speaker 2: like in a relationship when they leave the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how long it lasts, but I
Speaker 1: think so. And then and then I don't know how
Speaker 1: it ends up playing out, But then Astley and Jarrett
Speaker 1: start dating again. Yeah, and then they get married and
Speaker 1: then they have two kids. So, but Kevin's also married
Speaker 1: and has two kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is so lovely. But I watching the first episode,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't see it going that way necessarily.
Speaker 1: Oh like them and them? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like if you if I just watched that first episode
Speaker 2: not knowing how it ended, and you were like those
Speaker 2: who actually end up together, I'd be like, oh, whoa
Speaker 2: like how does that come to be?
Speaker 1: Really? Oh, I cause him and.
Speaker 2: By beyond it to me, I'm like, oh, that kind
Speaker 2: of makes sense. I can see them going the distance.
Speaker 1: Oh see, I know, but I'm viewing it from a
Speaker 1: different lens because.
Speaker 2: You know these people I know, I only know Ashley.
Speaker 1: And like Kevin and Bibiana both being on my first
Speaker 1: season of Paradise, I never thought that was like Kevin
Speaker 1: and Astrid. I think hooked up pretty soon, but like
Speaker 1: I never thought I was like Bibyana and Kevin. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see that really, Okay, interesting Rebecca takes Luke
Speaker 2: on the date Lucas from JoJo's season of The Boucherette.
Speaker 2: That's pretty nice. Nothing to juicy there. The other two
Speaker 2: couples that we are introduced to are Leslie, who was
Speaker 2: on Sean Low season The Bachelor, and Dean, who we
Speaker 2: now know is Dean and Kaylen.
Speaker 1: I think they actually dated off of that season as
Speaker 1: well for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Oh they do. They have a good thing go and
Speaker 2: in the first episode, yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Both seem to be like chill and like, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: see where this goes type of thing.
Speaker 2: And then we have Claire Crawley, who is just another
Speaker 2: like oh my god, she's just so good on camera,
Speaker 2: Like I just I love watching her.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I only saw her on her latest
Speaker 1: season of when she was the Bachelorette. Yeah, but like
Speaker 1: what but you've seen I've seen clips and then just
Speaker 1: like even watching this first episode, I'm like, oh, it
Speaker 1: makes because like when she was named the Bachelorette, you
Speaker 1: were kind of like, this is a blast from the past. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that isn't this out of left field if you're
Speaker 1: like newly watching the show or even like just like yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, that's a that's an interesting choice, mainly because
Speaker 1: most people they pulled at that time were all from
Speaker 1: like previous seasons, like like the season right before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the first one. I think since like Ari,
Speaker 2: maybe that they dug back into the archives where they
Speaker 2: hadn't just pulled someone off of the previous season who
Speaker 2: had come runner up and was kind of the obvious choice.
Speaker 1: But it makes it makes it makes total sense. Like
Speaker 1: I watch even watching her episode one, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm every time she's on screen, I'm paying attention, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not really scrolling on my phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like she's she makes for good reality she does.
Speaker 2: And you know what is great about her, and there's
Speaker 2: there's a few things, but she is really good at
Speaker 2: creating chemistry and flirting. So these guys you do see
Speaker 2: like they're interested, like they're hooked. And I mean, she's beautiful, obviously,
Speaker 2: but I do like watching people on these shows, and
Speaker 2: I've said this about Victoria Fuller before too, who are
Speaker 2: just kind of smooth and good at flirting, good at
Speaker 2: creating chemistry, good at creating connection, and I do feel
Speaker 2: like she's one of them, like she's skilled in it.
Speaker 1: Well. It's also it's also interesting like listening to her
Speaker 1: then like start flirting with the guy from Germany.
Speaker 2: Who's like, well yeah, because we watch her lock in
Speaker 2: with ben Wa who's from Canada, and then at the
Speaker 2: end of the episode, she starts locking in with this
Speaker 2: guy Christian who's from Germany and Switzerland.
Speaker 1: But he but in his head he's like, well way,
Speaker 1: like if you if you're talking to someone else, like
Speaker 1: I'm already clocked out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she's like, what do you mean, I can
Speaker 2: talk to both of you.
Speaker 1: And she's like this is uh, this is the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: Like this is this is what this show is. And
Speaker 1: he's like, well, that's not like how I do things like.
Speaker 2: And she's like, well, it's about to be how you
Speaker 2: which is which is she's like coursing him into this
Speaker 2: love triangle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think was probably the fun part of
Speaker 1: bringing people from other countries who you know, different cultural
Speaker 1: backgrounds and different you know.
Speaker 2: Well, and clar had done Paradise once or twice prior
Speaker 2: to this, right, I would assume, Yeah, I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to I know she had. I'm trying to remember the timeline.
Speaker 2: So if she had, Paradise is very love triangle friendly
Speaker 2: of like going a date with this person, try this person.
Speaker 2: And if these guys have come on only having been
Speaker 2: the Bachelor, the concept of like talking to multiple people
Speaker 2: is probably a little bit more foreign to them.
Speaker 1: Well, I think she might have did that Bachelor pad
Speaker 1: which was which is pretty similar, which is the origin
Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise and pretty similar to this too.
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, did she do Bachelor Past.
Speaker 1: I think she might have done a season about Well,
Speaker 1: she didn't do the season that we watched a couple
Speaker 1: of episodes of. Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was on that.
Speaker 1: I think so, which makes sense.
Speaker 2: She's a true veteran of this franchise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget how many people like I think the
Speaker 1: beginning of this franchise, like especially when they like you
Speaker 1: forget that like there it was only the Bachelor. Then
Speaker 1: when they I think once they like rolled the Batsorette out,
Speaker 1: they were bringing people back constantly and like different characters,
Speaker 1: and I think people were more willing to come back
Speaker 1: because there wasn't online hate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it must have been a fun time in
Speaker 2: the franchise. Once they were like, Okay, it's not just
Speaker 2: the Bachelor, We're gonna do Bacherette. Now, we're gonna roll
Speaker 2: out Bachelor pat Like they were developing all these new shows,
Speaker 2: and all these opportunities that you didn't have as a
Speaker 2: contestant before started to be put on the table of like, well,
Speaker 2: if it doesn't work out here, yeah, maybe you could
Speaker 2: be the Bacherette. Maybe you could go on Bachelor Pad.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like that would have added a lot of
Speaker 2: motivation to contestants when they were on the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, this is fun. And then it's almost
Speaker 1: like you're part of like this sorority, you know, fraternity
Speaker 1: type gig.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we'll think of it for like ten years.
Speaker 2: It was just a bunch of girlies one dude every season?
Speaker 1: Was it ten years? Was it ten seasons? I don't
Speaker 1: think it was that many way, it was no way anyways,
Speaker 1: So what else anything else big happened in this episode
Speaker 1: before we hit the row ceremony.
Speaker 2: No, that's kind of it. I mean, not a ton
Speaker 2: of drama yet, just I.
Speaker 1: Would say the most, like the biggest cliffhanger. What you're
Speaker 1: waiting to see is Ashley I what's happening with her?
Speaker 1: And also there's Ben Higgins, who at the time was
Speaker 1: you know he was His Bachelor season was massive. He's
Speaker 1: back on this show after his breakup. What's going to
Speaker 1: happen with him?
Speaker 2: Yes, this is kind of his re emergence. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: had a huge season the Bachelor. He got engaged him
Speaker 2: and Lauren I think did like a spinoff show after,
Speaker 2: didn't they?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: And then it obviously didn't work out for them at
Speaker 2: the time. You know, they're both married with kids now,
Speaker 2: which is so fantastic. But that story is definitely playing
Speaker 2: a role into him on the show. There's this talk
Speaker 2: of like is he ready? He doesn't feel fully present,
Speaker 2: and the vibe you're getting from Ben is he doesn't
Speaker 2: know if he's ready or not either, so you're kind
Speaker 2: of waiting to see his journey unfold. And I would
Speaker 2: imagine a lot of people who I mean so many
Speaker 2: who were huge Ben fans were very locked in on
Speaker 2: him in this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we see how they're doing. Chris comes
Speaker 1: out and basically announces like we're doing. I would have
Speaker 1: thought like, yeah, whoever, you give your rose to it.
Speaker 1: The Row ceremony was interesting because people gave out roses,
Speaker 1: but then at the same time, it was like everybody
Speaker 1: went in and voted for the person they didn't want
Speaker 1: in the house, like the.
Speaker 2: Same as the New Paradise. It's like Bachelor cannot end
Speaker 2: episodes without a Row ceremony. But the reality is like
Speaker 2: this was Survivors, the Survivor salary. You all go vote someone.
Speaker 1: Out, yeah, and you see people then like start like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like campaigning for themselves. We see Eric go home,
Speaker 1: which was kind of like out of left field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't even really see him in the entire episode. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, you didn't see half this cast in the
Speaker 2: entire episode. But it was a bummer to see him go.
Speaker 2: Did he end up on your season of Paradise?
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was original cast too, Okay, Eric
Speaker 1: and Kevin, we're all original cast. Ben Wah made uh
Speaker 1: An appearance. Yuki was the bartender.
Speaker 2: Was the bartender with Wells.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were, they were, they were together and she
Speaker 1: was fun and I actually met her. I met up
Speaker 1: with her in Tokyo.
Speaker 2: Did she really Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she took us to like restaurant.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's so funny. Oh my gosh. And then
Speaker 2: so yeah, we see Eric gets voted out. We see
Speaker 2: the girl from the UK get voted out, the girl
Speaker 2: from China get voted out. I need to get these
Speaker 2: people's names, Okay, Zoe from China, Laura from the UK,
Speaker 2: and then Jamie, Eric and Lauren g from the US. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a big elimination, However, too many people. There's so many
Speaker 2: people people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you might as well eliminate fifteen people
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 2: I mean I only saw literally people on my screen
Speaker 2: for most of the episode. So it's fine, you know,
Speaker 2: get get rid of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I think curious to see where they
Speaker 1: take this, but we know like the results. So so
Speaker 1: who did.
Speaker 2: Did Claire end up with that guy, ben Wah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think I think there was. I think like he
Speaker 1: might have got I think they like. I think he
Speaker 1: might have got down on like one knee at like
Speaker 1: the reunion show or something.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he proposed to.
Speaker 1: I think there was something like that, but he was
Speaker 1: definitely it definitely didn't work because he was on my season.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like they got engaged, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: Mean clearly it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Clearly it didn't work.
Speaker 2: I don't did any of the relationships from Bachelor Winter
Speaker 2: Games work out? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it was Leslie and Dean, Claire and Benoit,
Speaker 2: and then Kevin and Ashley. I are the ones that
Speaker 2: I'm aware of, and none of them are still together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The most I mean, the most successful show has
Speaker 1: truly been proven to be Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 2: It is interesting diving back in. Obviously we've recapped a
Speaker 2: little bit of Bachelor Pat on this podcast talking about
Speaker 2: Winter Games. You know, we were on the old version
Speaker 2: of Bachelor in Paradise. We've got the new one, kind
Speaker 2: of seeing how they draw inspiration from all of their
Speaker 2: different spin offs and they build on it every single time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's clearly one winner, Like there's clear like
Speaker 1: clearly whatever it is people on a beach from Bachelor
Speaker 1: and Bachelorette, it's it works.
Speaker 2: Well because watching people on vacation in Bikini's fall in
Speaker 2: love is fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, well, I mean obviously the show work,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it works amongst the contestants, like the most.
Speaker 1: The most engagements come from Paradise.
Speaker 2: Yes, Bachelor Pad didn't even really have that option, and
Speaker 2: I don't think Winter Games was really ending in engagements either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm curious if they keep the competition element
Speaker 1: in it, will it produces many Will it produce as
Speaker 1: many engagements or successful relationships as it has in the past.
Speaker 2: I mean this season of Time it won't. But this
Speaker 2: season did well.
Speaker 1: This season of Paradise with the competition element it did.
Speaker 1: There's still successful couples.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's three. Jeremy and Bailey, Alex and Andrew, and
Speaker 2: Jess and Spencer are all still together. They all seem
Speaker 2: very happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a lot. I mean when you have
Speaker 1: when you have three that are still still going after
Speaker 1: I mean it's been has been hasn't been a year.
Speaker 2: No, it's been about six months, but I mean justin
Speaker 2: Spencer engaged like it's definitely a successful season. But I
Speaker 2: do wonder if the competition money element continues to play
Speaker 2: an active role, if people will go in with a
Speaker 2: competitive mindset and there will be more strategy about how
Speaker 2: to win the money. Because this season, as much as
Speaker 2: the competition played a role, it was told to them
Speaker 2: that they were going for love, so they all came
Speaker 2: in with the mentality of wanting to find a relationship.
Speaker 1: I think it'll I think it will all depend on
Speaker 1: a how much money and b if there's a clear
Speaker 1: path to winning the money. And I think, like even
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's money involved in this Winter Games.
Speaker 1: They didn't really address any money being involved. I think
Speaker 1: it's just competition.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like Winter Games because I like the fact that
Speaker 1: like the competition of it plays out of like is
Speaker 1: this who's this person going to take on a date?
Speaker 1: Because then then the reward is is potential like a
Speaker 1: potential relationship.
Speaker 2: Well, and as you see the relationship start to evolve,
Speaker 2: that competitive spirit is going to escalate because you're going
Speaker 2: to see guys and girls be like I've been with
Speaker 2: this guy for three weeks. We haven't had the chance
Speaker 2: to go on a date yet, get me out of
Speaker 2: this house, like I want to win, and it's all
Speaker 2: going to be these like fun winter Olympic themed activities.
Speaker 2: So I do think it's a fun layout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think that's what In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: think that's where they should where they should pivot. Like
Speaker 1: in Paradise, I think it should be more of like
Speaker 1: the competition is a result of like who gets to stay,
Speaker 1: who gets to go, who gets to take someone on
Speaker 1: a date? Make it more personal like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the reward of these competitions is a date,
Speaker 2: is a relationship activity like and if.
Speaker 1: And if it is money at the end, tell me
Speaker 1: how I get it? And then when I get to
Speaker 1: the end, don't tell me like oh, but then it
Speaker 1: gets split in half. And then this person gets a
Speaker 1: choice and then wait, you didn't. You didn't win the money.
Speaker 1: You picked love, but like, pick out of this card
Speaker 1: and win some money anyways, because this is deal or
Speaker 1: no deal.
Speaker 2: Now, well, I feel like on this past season of Paradise,
Speaker 2: if someone had picked the money, it would have been
Speaker 2: like you don't get any money because you failed because
Speaker 2: it was your final test and the show's about love.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what any mean?
Speaker 2: Woras if you picked love, it was like, oh you
Speaker 2: won and here's some cash. But they need to refine
Speaker 2: it a little bit more. I feel like it needs
Speaker 2: to be clearer next season, and I think it will be.
Speaker 1: But overall thoughts on Winter Games, I thought it was fun.
Speaker 1: Let's chot out the beginning down a little bit and
Speaker 1: it's it's it's good they do. They do a good
Speaker 1: job and they have and they have a strong cast
Speaker 1: of characters for sure.
Speaker 2: I agree. I honestly I wouldn't be mad about seeing
Speaker 2: another season of Winter Games. Yeah, I think it's great.
Speaker 2: I do feel like I would love to see more
Speaker 2: of just like the hanging out, the chatting, like the
Speaker 2: conversations between people. But otherwise I thought it was great.
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