1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here today with a 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: little holiday recap. We have decided to recap Bachelor Winter 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Games that came out back in twenty eighteen. Maybe this 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: will correlate a little bit with the new Bachelor Home 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Rental show in a sense, because there's a little bit 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: of competition involved. 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, I didn't even think about. 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: That really was the first thing I thought about. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely one of a handful of Baucher spin offs. 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: I mean, they had that singing show at one point. 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: I think it was called Listen to Your Heart. Oh, 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: they did Winter Games. 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: I've never seen Listen to your Heart. 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: I don't think i've seen it either. It was a 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: bunch of like aspiring singers, right, yeah, yeah, but. 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: I heard it was I heard from. 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: Actually I think I did see some of it. 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of it, but I remember hearing 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: from people that worked on it that they really enjoyed it. 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure it's fun for people that work on 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: the show to switch it up and do something different, 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: and I'm sure Winter Games was one of those things, 24 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 2: Like you know, they're in a house in the winter, 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: different location, all star cast people from different countries, Like 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: there was a lot to be excited about it. I 27 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: feel like when this launched, and it was the concept 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: of Bachelor Winter Games was that it was airing in 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: alignment with the Winter Olympics, so it was kind of 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: Bachelor's take on a Winter Olympics meets Bachelor competition dating show. 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: I remember it because I watched the first episode because 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: the day the first episode came out was the day 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: I found out that I was cast on beca season 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, I actually like what 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: the fuck is going on here? Like really, I gotta 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: pay attention. I remember watching I don't think I got 37 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: through the whole thing, but I remember watching it like 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: a majority of it, and like, Okay, I don't know 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: what I'm doing now. 40 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: Like this is really what it's crazy is. I actually 41 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: have never seen Winter Games. It was my first time 42 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: watching it. But a lot of the people ended up 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: being on your season of Paradise, which is kind of 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: crazy because the next season of Paradise, the people that 45 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: ended up single on Winter Games filtered their way onto. 46 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny because Bibiana, Kevin and Eric were 47 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: all original cast in Paradise on my season two, so 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: they weren't even like, oh it didn't work, you come down. 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: They were all original cast, which is kind of crazy. 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean if you didn't find love on 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: Winter Games, it kind of set you up for success 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: probably going on Paradise because you were able to make 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: it down there earlier than you might have if you 54 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: didn't do Winter Games. 55 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. One thing I will say before we recap it, 56 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: which we could start recapping it now, My favorite part 57 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: of this was the house, Like I love that. Also 58 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: that like winter cabin looks, that was my favorite part. 59 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: I like it too because Bachelor is so identified by 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: the mansion, this like beautiful Spanish home in La And 61 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: to see these people in a very different aesthetic, I 62 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: think it's fun and it's just giving, like cozy winter 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: cabin vibes, Like it's a good it's a good feel. 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: It's a different setting. It's not a beach, it's not La. 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: I feel like, rarely do we see them in this 66 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: setting for longer than like one episode that they've like 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: flown somewhere for definitely. 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So starting from the beginning of the episode, we 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: get some intro packages, which is fine, they carry on 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: for the intro of this show was just too too long. 71 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: Really have like a we have like a like an 72 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: Olympic ceremony esque style intro that I'm just like, all right, 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: but this isn't the Olympics, so so. 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely trying to mimic an opening ceremony for 75 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: the Olympics, but doing it Bachelor style. And unique about 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: this season is they're pulling contestants from different places in 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: the world, so like they pulled someone from Bachelor China, 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: from Bachelor New Zealand, Australia, UK, Germany. So it's this 79 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: coming together of the countries, which is really cool concept. 80 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: But they do this parade that dead ass is the 81 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: first thirty minutes of this show. They could have picked 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: up the pace. Now I know this is twenty eighteen. 83 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: TV moves a lot faster now, I think than it did. 84 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: Just media in general, our attention spans are shorter. Social 85 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: media's you know, playing a role in that, so it 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: could just feel updated more than anything. Yeah, but it's slow. 87 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: It's a long intro, but we're introduced to some of 88 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: our bachelination phase. We've got Ben Higgins. We've got Bibiana, Dean, 89 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: Claire Crawley, Ashley Eye, so some really strong people that 90 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: they've cast. 91 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: On this show, and I will say they're at the 92 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: like you're so used to if you're watching a spin 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: off of Bachelor, you're used to watching Bachler in Paradise, 94 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: where you know, like the first episode, you know. Ever, 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: even if like you've never seen, even if you don't 96 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: remember the person from their current season, you after the 97 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: first episode, you know everyone who's there. At the end 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: of this episode, I was like, I haven't seen like 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: eight of the eight of these people. When they're doing 100 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: the row ceremony, I'm like, how many There's like thirty 101 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: people in the house. 102 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No. It was wild, wild and kind of 103 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: interesting because obviously the show is about this coming together 104 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: of the countries, but they don't show really any of 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: the people from the other countries unless they are forming 106 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: a relationship with one of the American Bachelor faves. Yeah, 107 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: which I guess makes sense because we don't know half 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: of this cast, and you're more invested in the people 109 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: that you do know, right, Like you know Ashley, I 110 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: you want to see her, you are It's harder to 111 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: get you in and like all of these people from 112 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: Germany and the UK, et cetera. However, it's like, what's 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: the point of having all of these people here? And 114 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: there's also an intense language barrier for some of them not. 115 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, like Yuki Yuki, who was also on my first 116 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: season a Paradise as a bartender, but yeah, she didn't 117 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: speak any English. 118 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is challenging to date when there's people 119 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: in the house that are fluent in your language and 120 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: then there's people in the house that really don't speak 121 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: your language at all. Yeah, So there was a little 122 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: bit of that. They have Tristan Ryan come out with 123 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: the flame of love lantern situation to end off the 124 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: opening ceremonies, which was kind of just like so hilarious 125 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: to me because like, I just still feel like that 126 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: is something they would do today, is called Tristan Ryan 127 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: and be like get back here for like our opening ceremonies, 128 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: like they I. 129 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Would love to know the number of times Trista has 130 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: appeared on a season of Bachelor Bachan Paradisetan like anything better. 131 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 2: I had to bet who has not been a contestant 132 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: on the most but who has made a guest appearance 133 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: the most in this franchise, Without a doubt, it has 134 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: to be Trista. 135 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean she has to be I would say, if 136 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: I were to throw out a random number, I would 137 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: say over six, over six or seven yeast Yeah, right, 138 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I would think. 139 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. She's their first Bacherette. She's 140 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: so beloved, she's so fantastic. But yeah, it was just funny. 141 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I feel like twenty eighteen, 142 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: this could be twenty twenty five, like Tristan and Ryan 143 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: coming out for the opener. Yeah, and then they had 144 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: two musical performances, which just truthfully felt really unnecessary. I 145 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: was like, can I just see some people stay? Can 146 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: I see any of these contestants talk to any other 147 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: contestant at this point? Like, I've been watching for thirty minutes, 148 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: I'm about to watch two musical performances not really necessary, 149 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: but necessary to play into like the opening ceremony element. 150 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we're both in agreeance. It was too long 151 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: in the beginning, Like the ceremony was unnecessary. I don't 152 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: think anyone's going to be mad at that because this 153 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: show is from twenty eighteen. 154 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, then we get kind of more into the show element. Yeah, 155 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: they get to the house and we find out that 156 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: there's going to be these competitions. The first one is 157 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: a skiing competition, and whoever wins one guy one girl, 158 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: they get to take someone on a date, which honestly 159 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: could be a fun integration into Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, like, 160 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: maybe we keep these competitions, these games and whoever the 161 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: guy other girl that wins, like you get the date 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: card or maybe you introduce that halfway, you know what 163 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: I mean. 164 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think this. I think this show had to 165 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: be part of the inspiration of Bachelor in Paradise this year. Yeah, 166 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: I think so, because I do think like when we 167 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: had our talk with Andrew and Alex, and Andrew mentioning 168 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: like there and I remember even going back there, we 169 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: we had just like we would do nothing Like there 170 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: was like like majority of the days unless you were 171 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: even if you were involved in like the drama, there's 172 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: just so much downtime, which is is just boring. 173 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: Kind of exhausting, and. 174 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: It's yeah, and it almost like I think I think 175 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: the Winter Games. What I realized from watching this first 176 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: episode is they they did a good job of like 177 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: incorporating the games, but this one really still felt drama 178 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: relationship bachelor aesque heavy, like they didn't stair away from that. 179 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: There you see Ashley I cry five times, yea more 180 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: more seven. 181 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, I did feel like as much as I 182 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: think the games on the season of Paradise are a 183 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: little more exciting to watch, it did feel like this 184 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: ski competition. It it wasn't like like they were trying 185 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: to make it a competition show. It's still felt like 186 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: they were focusing on like people falling on the skis, 187 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: the girls waiting to see who wins, like rooting for 188 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: the guy that they want to win because they want 189 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: to go on a date. Like the competition did feel 190 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: still very ingrained in the dating element and like both 191 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: sides had something to gain and something to lose. And 192 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: I thought it was fun watching like Leslie be like 193 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: I like Dean and we hit it off last night 194 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: and I want him to win so he can take 195 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: me on a date. And then yeah, so we see 196 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: Kevin wins for the guys. Yeah, Canadians gain competition naturally? 197 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Also, did I mention Kevin? Yeah, I said he was 198 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: he was on Paradise. 199 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, ute, Yeah, And then Rebecca wins for the girls. 200 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: Rebecca is from wait, let me check, I can't fully 201 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: remember she's from Sweden. So that was good because honestly, 202 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if we would have gotten introduced to 203 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: her had she not won. Yeah, And Kevin is kind 204 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: of in this little love Triangles situation with Bibyana and Ashley. 205 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: I Ashley I is. I don't think he really knows 206 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: it yet though he doesn't know, he doesn't know. He 207 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: thinks he's just hitting it off with Bibyana. 208 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Ashley, as much as she's expressing in her 209 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: interviews that she's into Kevin, I don't know how much 210 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: she's actually opening up to him at this point. 211 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: No, I would agree with that. Yeah, he had definitely 212 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: hit it off with Bibiana already. He ends up taking 213 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: her on a date that's not really a surprise to 214 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: anyone except Ashley, who I think like has kind of 215 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: locked in on Kevin and is like, that's the guy 216 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: I want, which I like. I like that about her 217 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: that she's like, I know who I'm looking for and 218 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: it's him, and I'm all in on this person, and 219 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to figure out how to make that work. 220 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have that as much nowadays on this. 221 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: And she's shameless about it, Like she's like, I'm devastated 222 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: that he took someone else, even though we haven't really 223 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: talked yet. I want that guy, and I'm going to 224 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: be vocal about him until everyone I'm disappointed. Like she 225 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: really is a wear her heart on her sleeve. Like 226 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: there's no gameplay or strategy to her. The way she moves, 227 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 2: it's all about her feelings and she. 228 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: Is someone that like yeah, like it makes like she 229 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: it just makes so much sense that she was casted 230 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: on this on. 231 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: This show, she's so good because she really like I. 232 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: Walk and like I know there's like all this, I 233 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: don't love it, but like yeah, like that's there for 234 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: the right reasons and all. Like like I watched whenever 235 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: Ashley's eye is on this show, I'm like that she's 236 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: that she is there to fall in love. Oh yeah, 237 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm going on the show because I'm gonna fall in 238 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: love on this show. 239 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she really wants to. And she's like, I 240 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: that's if there's alternative motives, they don't even come close 241 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: to how important finding love is for her. 242 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: Yes, and I love It's great. 243 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Okay, so she doesn't get ass on 244 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: the date. She's crying. She's crying interviews, crying to Ben, 245 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: She's disappointed. What's interesting to me is watching this first episode, 246 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: it does seem like Kevin and Bibyon are kind of 247 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: hitting it off. It seems like maybe like there could 248 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: be something between Ashley and Kevin. But it's so early. 249 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: But spoiler alert, we obviously know because this came out 250 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, that Ashley I and Kevin end up 251 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: together after the show, right. I think so they are 252 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: like in a relationship when they leave the show. 253 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how long it lasts, but I 254 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: think so. And then and then I don't know how 255 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: it ends up playing out, But then Astley and Jarrett 256 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: start dating again. Yeah, and then they get married and 257 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: then they have two kids. So, but Kevin's also married 258 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: and has two kids. 259 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is so lovely. But I watching the first episode, 260 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: you wouldn't see it going that way necessarily. 261 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: Oh like them and them? Yeah? 262 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: Like if you if I just watched that first episode 263 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: not knowing how it ended, and you were like those 264 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 2: who actually end up together, I'd be like, oh, whoa 265 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: like how does that come to be? 266 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: Really? Oh, I cause him and. 267 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: By beyond it to me, I'm like, oh, that kind 268 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: of makes sense. I can see them going the distance. 269 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: Oh see, I know, but I'm viewing it from a 270 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: different lens because. 271 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: You know these people I know, I only know Ashley. 272 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: And like Kevin and Bibiana both being on my first 273 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: season of Paradise, I never thought that was like Kevin 274 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: and Astrid. I think hooked up pretty soon, but like 275 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: I never thought I was like Bibyana and Kevin. I don't. 276 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: I don't see that really, Okay, interesting Rebecca takes Luke 277 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: on the date Lucas from JoJo's season of The Boucherette. 278 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: That's pretty nice. Nothing to juicy there. The other two 279 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: couples that we are introduced to are Leslie, who was 280 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: on Sean Low season The Bachelor, and Dean, who we 281 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: now know is Dean and Kaylen. 282 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: I think they actually dated off of that season as 283 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: well for a little bit. 284 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: Oh they do. They have a good thing go and 285 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: in the first episode, yeah, they. 286 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: Both seem to be like chill and like, Okay, let's 287 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: see where this goes type of thing. 288 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: And then we have Claire Crawley, who is just another 289 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: like oh my god, she's just so good on camera, 290 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: Like I just I love watching her. 291 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I only saw her on her latest 292 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: season of when she was the Bachelorette. Yeah, but like 293 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: what but you've seen I've seen clips and then just 294 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: like even watching this first episode, I'm like, oh, it 295 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: makes because like when she was named the Bachelorette, you 296 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: were kind of like, this is a blast from the past. Yeah, 297 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: like that isn't this out of left field if you're 298 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: like newly watching the show or even like just like yeah, 299 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: you're like, that's a that's an interesting choice, mainly because 300 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: most people they pulled at that time were all from 301 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: like previous seasons, like like the season right before. 302 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the first one. I think since like Ari, 303 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: maybe that they dug back into the archives where they 304 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: hadn't just pulled someone off of the previous season who 305 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: had come runner up and was kind of the obvious choice. 306 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: But it makes it makes it makes total sense. Like 307 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: I watch even watching her episode one, I'm like, oh, 308 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm every time she's on screen, I'm paying attention, you know, 309 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm not really scrolling on my phone. 310 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because like she's she makes for good reality she does. 311 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: And you know what is great about her, and there's 312 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: there's a few things, but she is really good at 313 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: creating chemistry and flirting. So these guys you do see 314 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: like they're interested, like they're hooked. And I mean, she's beautiful, obviously, 315 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: but I do like watching people on these shows, and 316 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: I've said this about Victoria Fuller before too, who are 317 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: just kind of smooth and good at flirting, good at 318 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: creating chemistry, good at creating connection, and I do feel 319 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: like she's one of them, like she's skilled in it. 320 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Well. It's also it's also interesting like listening to her 321 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: then like start flirting with the guy from Germany. 322 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: Who's like, well yeah, because we watch her lock in 323 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: with ben Wa who's from Canada, and then at the 324 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: end of the episode, she starts locking in with this 325 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: guy Christian who's from Germany and Switzerland. 326 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: But he but in his head he's like, well way, 327 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: like if you if you're talking to someone else, like 328 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm already clocked out. 329 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, And she's like, what do you mean, I can 330 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: talk to both of you. 331 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: And she's like this is uh, this is the Bachelor, 332 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: Like this is this is what this show is. And 333 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: he's like, well, that's not like how I do things like. 334 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: And she's like, well, it's about to be how you 335 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: which is which is she's like coursing him into this 336 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: love triangle. 337 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think was probably the fun part of 338 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: bringing people from other countries who you know, different cultural 339 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: backgrounds and different you know. 340 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: Well, and clar had done Paradise once or twice prior 341 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: to this, right, I would assume, Yeah, I'm just trying 342 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: to I know she had. I'm trying to remember the timeline. 343 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: So if she had, Paradise is very love triangle friendly 344 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: of like going a date with this person, try this person. 345 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: And if these guys have come on only having been 346 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: the Bachelor, the concept of like talking to multiple people 347 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: is probably a little bit more foreign to them. 348 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: Well, I think she might have did that Bachelor pad 349 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: which was which is pretty similar, which is the origin 350 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise and pretty similar to this too. 351 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, did she do Bachelor Past. 352 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I think she might have done a season about Well, 353 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: she didn't do the season that we watched a couple 354 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: of episodes of. Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was on that. 355 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: I think so, which makes sense. 356 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: She's a true veteran of this franchise. 357 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget how many people like I think the 358 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: beginning of this franchise, like especially when they like you 359 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: forget that like there it was only the Bachelor. Then 360 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: when they I think once they like rolled the Batsorette out, 361 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: they were bringing people back constantly and like different characters, 362 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: and I think people were more willing to come back 363 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: because there wasn't online hate. 364 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it must have been a fun time in 365 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: the franchise. Once they were like, Okay, it's not just 366 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: the Bachelor, We're gonna do Bacherette. Now, we're gonna roll 367 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: out Bachelor pat Like they were developing all these new shows, 368 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: and all these opportunities that you didn't have as a 369 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: contestant before started to be put on the table of like, well, 370 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: if it doesn't work out here, yeah, maybe you could 371 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: be the Bacherette. Maybe you could go on Bachelor Pad. 372 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 373 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: I feel like that would have added a lot of 374 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: motivation to contestants when they were on the show. 375 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, this is fun. And then it's almost 376 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: like you're part of like this sorority, you know, fraternity 377 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: type gig. 378 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we'll think of it for like ten years. 379 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: It was just a bunch of girlies one dude every season? 380 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Was it ten years? Was it ten seasons? I don't 381 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: think it was that many way, it was no way anyways, 382 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: So what else anything else big happened in this episode 383 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: before we hit the row ceremony. 384 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: No, that's kind of it. I mean, not a ton 385 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: of drama yet, just I. 386 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Would say the most, like the biggest cliffhanger. What you're 387 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: waiting to see is Ashley I what's happening with her? 388 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: And also there's Ben Higgins, who at the time was 389 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: you know he was His Bachelor season was massive. He's 390 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: back on this show after his breakup. What's going to 391 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: happen with him? 392 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: Yes, this is kind of his re emergence. Yeah, he 393 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: had a huge season the Bachelor. He got engaged him 394 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: and Lauren I think did like a spinoff show after, 395 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: didn't they? 396 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I think so. 397 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: And then it obviously didn't work out for them at 398 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: the time. You know, they're both married with kids now, 399 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: which is so fantastic. But that story is definitely playing 400 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: a role into him on the show. There's this talk 401 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: of like is he ready? He doesn't feel fully present, 402 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: and the vibe you're getting from Ben is he doesn't 403 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: know if he's ready or not either, so you're kind 404 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: of waiting to see his journey unfold. And I would 405 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: imagine a lot of people who I mean so many 406 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: who were huge Ben fans were very locked in on 407 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: him in this season. 408 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we see how they're doing. Chris comes 409 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: out and basically announces like we're doing. I would have 410 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: thought like, yeah, whoever, you give your rose to it. 411 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: The Row ceremony was interesting because people gave out roses, 412 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: but then at the same time, it was like everybody 413 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: went in and voted for the person they didn't want 414 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: in the house, like the. 415 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: Same as the New Paradise. It's like Bachelor cannot end 416 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: episodes without a Row ceremony. But the reality is like 417 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: this was Survivors, the Survivor salary. You all go vote someone. 418 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: Out, yeah, and you see people then like start like, uh, 419 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: you know, like campaigning for themselves. We see Eric go home, 420 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: which was kind of like out of left field. 421 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't even really see him in the entire episode. So, 422 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you didn't see half this cast in the 423 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: entire episode. But it was a bummer to see him go. 424 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: Did he end up on your season of Paradise? 425 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was original cast too, Okay, Eric 426 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: and Kevin, we're all original cast. Ben Wah made uh 427 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: An appearance. Yuki was the bartender. 428 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: Was the bartender with Wells. 429 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were, they were, they were together and she 430 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: was fun and I actually met her. I met up 431 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: with her in Tokyo. 432 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: Did she really Yeah? 433 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, she took us to like restaurant. 434 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's so funny. Oh my gosh. And then 435 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: so yeah, we see Eric gets voted out. We see 436 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: the girl from the UK get voted out, the girl 437 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 2: from China get voted out. I need to get these 438 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 2: people's names, Okay, Zoe from China, Laura from the UK, 439 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: and then Jamie, Eric and Lauren g from the US. Yeah, 440 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: a big elimination, However, too many people. There's so many 441 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: people people. 442 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you might as well eliminate fifteen people 443 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: at this point. 444 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: I mean I only saw literally people on my screen 445 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: for most of the episode. So it's fine, you know, 446 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: get get rid of them. 447 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I think curious to see where they 448 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: take this, but we know like the results. So so 449 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: who did. 450 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: Did Claire end up with that guy, ben Wah, I don't. 451 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: I think I think there was. I think like he 452 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: might have got I think they like. I think he 453 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: might have got down on like one knee at like 454 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: the reunion show or something. 455 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, he proposed to. 456 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: I think there was something like that, but he was 457 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: definitely it definitely didn't work because he was on my season. 458 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 459 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like they got engaged, but I don't think 460 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: it was. 461 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: Mean clearly it didn't work out. 462 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: Clearly it didn't work. 463 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: I don't did any of the relationships from Bachelor Winter 464 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 2: Games work out? I don't think so. 465 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't think so. 466 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: It sounds like it was Leslie and Dean, Claire and Benoit, 467 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: and then Kevin and Ashley. I are the ones that 468 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: I'm aware of, and none of them are still together. 469 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. The most I mean, the most successful show has 470 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: truly been proven to be Bachelor in Paradise. 471 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: It is interesting diving back in. Obviously we've recapped a 472 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: little bit of Bachelor Pat on this podcast talking about 473 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: Winter Games. You know, we were on the old version 474 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: of Bachelor in Paradise. We've got the new one, kind 475 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: of seeing how they draw inspiration from all of their 476 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: different spin offs and they build on it every single time. 477 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's clearly one winner, Like there's clear like 478 00:23:53,320 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: clearly whatever it is people on a beach from Bachelor 479 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: and Bachelorette, it's it works. 480 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: Well because watching people on vacation in Bikini's fall in 481 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 2: love is fun. 482 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, well, I mean obviously the show work, 483 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: but I'm saying it works amongst the contestants, like the most. 484 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: The most engagements come from Paradise. 485 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: Yes, Bachelor Pad didn't even really have that option, and 486 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: I don't think Winter Games was really ending in engagements either. 487 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm curious if they keep the competition element 488 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: in it, will it produces many Will it produce as 489 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: many engagements or successful relationships as it has in the past. 490 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: I mean this season of Time it won't. But this 491 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: season did well. 492 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: This season of Paradise with the competition element it did. 493 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: There's still successful couples. 494 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's three. Jeremy and Bailey, Alex and Andrew, and 495 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: Jess and Spencer are all still together. They all seem 496 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: very happy. 497 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a lot. I mean when you have 498 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: when you have three that are still still going after 499 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's been has been hasn't been a year. 500 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: No, it's been about six months, but I mean justin 501 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: Spencer engaged like it's definitely a successful season. But I 502 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: do wonder if the competition money element continues to play 503 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: an active role, if people will go in with a 504 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: competitive mindset and there will be more strategy about how 505 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: to win the money. Because this season, as much as 506 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: the competition played a role, it was told to them 507 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 2: that they were going for love, so they all came 508 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 2: in with the mentality of wanting to find a relationship. 509 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: I think it'll I think it will all depend on 510 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: a how much money and b if there's a clear 511 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: path to winning the money. And I think, like even 512 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's money involved in this Winter Games. 513 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: They didn't really address any money being involved. I think 514 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: it's just competition. 515 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 516 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: I like Winter Games because I like the fact that 517 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: like the competition of it plays out of like is 518 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: this who's this person going to take on a date? 519 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: Because then then the reward is is potential like a 520 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: potential relationship. 521 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: Well, and as you see the relationship start to evolve, 522 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: that competitive spirit is going to escalate because you're going 523 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: to see guys and girls be like I've been with 524 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: this guy for three weeks. We haven't had the chance 525 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: to go on a date yet, get me out of 526 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: this house, like I want to win, and it's all 527 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: going to be these like fun winter Olympic themed activities. 528 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: So I do think it's a fun layout. 529 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think that's what In my opinion, I 530 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: think that's where they should where they should pivot. Like 531 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: in Paradise, I think it should be more of like 532 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: the competition is a result of like who gets to stay, 533 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: who gets to go, who gets to take someone on 534 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: a date? Make it more personal like that. 535 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the reward of these competitions is a date, 536 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: is a relationship activity like and if. 537 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: And if it is money at the end, tell me 538 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: how I get it? And then when I get to 539 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: the end, don't tell me like oh, but then it 540 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: gets split in half. And then this person gets a 541 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: choice and then wait, you didn't. You didn't win the money. 542 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: You picked love, but like, pick out of this card 543 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: and win some money anyways, because this is deal or 544 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: no deal. 545 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: Now, well, I feel like on this past season of Paradise, 546 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 2: if someone had picked the money, it would have been 547 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: like you don't get any money because you failed because 548 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: it was your final test and the show's about love. 549 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what any mean? 550 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: Woras if you picked love, it was like, oh you 551 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: won and here's some cash. But they need to refine 552 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: it a little bit more. I feel like it needs 553 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: to be clearer next season, and I think it will be. 554 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: But overall thoughts on Winter Games, I thought it was fun. 555 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: Let's chot out the beginning down a little bit and 556 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's good they do. They do a good 557 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: job and they have and they have a strong cast 558 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: of characters for sure. 559 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: I agree. I honestly I wouldn't be mad about seeing 560 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: another season of Winter Games. Yeah, I think it's great. 561 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: I do feel like I would love to see more 562 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: of just like the hanging out, the chatting, like the 563 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: conversations between people. But otherwise I thought it was great. 564 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that is an episode. Thank you guys so 565 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 1: much for tuning in and listening to our recap. Make 566 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: sure you download and subscribe to Best Reappy Hour. 567 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: We will have new ausive interviews for you every single week. 568 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. I