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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: If there's anything I'm sure of, if you're like me

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Speaker 2: and you love college football because you love chaos, today

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Speaker 2: was a great day. And if there's anything else I'm

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Speaker 2: sure of, Clemson is done, stick a fork in it.

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Speaker 2: The season might as well be a wash. The biggest

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Speaker 2: upset of the day leaves one of the most important

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Speaker 2: programs in all of college football shell shocked, trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out what the heck they're gonna do with the

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Speaker 2: rest of their season, because it is not going to

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Speaker 2: be the year that Clemson fans expected. We're hanging out

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Speaker 2: with you on Fox Sports Radio, he Steve Hartman. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz Steve's in for Buck. We're usually bucking fits

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Speaker 2: in this time. So it took one show, Steve, I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you came in pitch hitting boards like this is amazing.

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Speaker 2: It took one week of Buck Rising actually being on

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Speaker 2: How does this work?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: One week into what's supposed to be, you know, a

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Speaker 2: sitting at the Georgia Tennessee game right now. He decided

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Speaker 2: going to the game more important than talking about the game.

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Speaker 2: Takes the second week of a new show off. How

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Speaker 3: Well, Jason, first of all, I've been doing sportsdoc radio

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Speaker 3: since nineteen eighty nine. Okay, so I have been doing

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Speaker 3: this for let's at thirty six years, and the total

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Speaker 3: time that I've taken off would be zero. I do

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Speaker 3: not take any days off from radio. I don't take

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Speaker 3: any days off from my television career. In fact, quick

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Speaker 3: story for you, when I was doing the National raishow

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Speaker 3: Monday through Friday here at Fox Sports Radio with Pat

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Speaker 3: O'Brien and Victor Briock Jacobs, we got the goodbye. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we got the goodbye, and you know this happens in

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Speaker 3: the business. Yeah, as you know, I mean, these things happen, right,

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Speaker 3: And so I get a phone call because I had

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Speaker 3: It was going to be a hard check and it

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Speaker 3: was going to include unused vacation. It didn't sound right

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Speaker 3: to me because you know, I never you know, it

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Speaker 3: I'll take it. I get the check. I had over

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Speaker 3: twenty six thousand dollars in unused vacation. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: maybe I should have taken a day off. So for

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Speaker 3: Buck to be taking days off leaving you hanging with

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Speaker 3: me today, Jason is really unforgivable. I would never let

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Speaker 3: him forget.

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Speaker 2: You are one thousand percent right. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: this is a fun fact. I'm gonna we just love

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Speaker 2: to go wherever we go on this show. I will

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Speaker 2: give everybody an insight. If the people you follow on

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Speaker 2: Twitter say that some sports media personality should be fired

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Speaker 2: for their take, this is a good time to just

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Speaker 2: inform you that contracts don't work that way. Like you

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Speaker 2: can't just fire somebody because you don't like what they say.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, as I learned from somebody that was

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Speaker 2: talent layoffs like, contracts are fully guaranteed. And for anyone

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Speaker 2: you think, I hope this guy gets fired today understand

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Speaker 2: sweet deal in that situation. And you're a thousand percent right.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea, Steve. I'm gonna be honest with

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. And after I got laid off,

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Speaker 3: Jason. I want to get this out of the way

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Speaker 3: I know that, but I've never met Buck. Okay, and

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Speaker 3: the first time that Buck Rising that I heard him

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Speaker 3: I got. Well, Buck Rising put twelve thousand dollars in

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Speaker 2: that mean that we can now levy a twelve thousand

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Speaker 2: Daily that I work on. When we looked at upsets

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Speaker 3: Well, and here's the thing, Jason, and I'm one hundred

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Speaker 2: And that Steve is part of what really bothers me

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Speaker 2: really genuinely believe that. But if I'm going to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I've seen this quarterback with this coach. If I don't

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand when I moved there because I was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Vanderbilt's right here.

431
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Speaker 3: Right there in Commodore. Something's going on.

432
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Speaker 2: So you're going to drive three hours for a team

433
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 2: and there's one. But anyway, I'm walking up and down

434
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Speaker 2: the streets and I see that there's a sports bar

435
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 2: every week at the time that used to be packed

436
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: and people were trying to get in. So I walked

437
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Speaker 2: into a game, and you know, because I love sports,

438
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 2: so I was like, I'm gonna walk into the sports

439
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: bar and just see what's going on. I walked in.

440
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Speaker 2: I was just wearing a red shirt because it was

441
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Speaker 2: a shirt that I had on. I had no idea

442
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: that Tennessee was playing Arkansas that day or that that

443
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Speaker 2: would even have a meaning. I made it one foot

444
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Speaker 2: in the door before I had a beer thrown in

445
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Speaker 2: my face and I was checked from the bar. And

446
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 2: that was my introduction to SEC's football. So for the

447
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 2: longest time, I actually had a bit like, if I'm

448
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 2: being honest, I had a bit of a chip on

449
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Speaker 2: my shoulder against SEC football, against the Balls, because I

450
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 2: just thought they were rude, crazy fans. Then I was

451
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Speaker 2: lucky enough with touring and country music for years to

452
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Speaker 2: tour with some diehard Balls fans, and you see how

453
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Speaker 2: much it means. I think that's the great thing. The

454
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Speaker 2: reason I love college football, to your point, is that

455
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter whether we're talking about Michigan, Ohio State, Texas,

456
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Speaker 2: Alabama who rolled today. Obviously, this Tennessee Georgia game, like

457
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Speaker 2: there is a beauty. And this is always the way

458
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Speaker 2: I test people on it. If you're just sitting around

459
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Speaker 2: and you're going to turn on a game on Saturday

460
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Speaker 2: that you have no interest in, but you know it's

461
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Speaker 2: a big game, so you turn on the TV and

462
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Speaker 2: you've got Georgia Tennessee. You don't have a dog in

463
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Speaker 2: the fight and you watch the environment, I think the

464
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Speaker 2: environment is captivating. If you have no dog in the

465
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Speaker 2: fight and you don't really care on Sunday and you

466
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Speaker 2: turn on an NFL game, I don't think it resonates

467
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Speaker 2: the same way for people that have absolutely no rooting

468
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Speaker 2: interest one way or the other. There's something about the

469
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Speaker 2: pageantry in the one hundred thousand and the fans and

470
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Speaker 2: the way they dress up the fact that Neiland is

471
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Speaker 2: checkerboarded inside, not because their seats are orange and white,

472
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Speaker 2: but because the fans know which section they're sitting in,

473
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Speaker 2: so they know whether or not to wear an orange

474
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Speaker 2: shirt or a white shirt. To create the entire visual

475
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Speaker 2: that we're seeing. Like, there's just something about the generational

476
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Speaker 2: sort of I don't know, generational connection that comes with

477
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Speaker 2: these teams that's beautiful. We'll keep getting updated on the scores. Namely,

478
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Speaker 2: we do have a twenty eight sweat and twenty seven

479
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Speaker 2: game right now going into the fourth quart of Martin.

480
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Speaker 2: We'll get Martin White to help us get all the

481
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Speaker 2: scores and get you updated on what's going across the landscape.

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Speaker 6: Right now, brother, you're right now Georgia with the ball

483
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Speaker 6: now twenty eight to twenty seven, So Georgia trailing did

484
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Speaker 6: started the fourth quarter as they just got.

485
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Speaker 4: A first down there. It's been a back and forth

486
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Speaker 4: game thus far.

487
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Speaker 6: Really the game of the day so far, because outside

488
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Speaker 6: of one other one. We'll get to that in just

489
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Speaker 6: a moment. Penn State with a thirty eight to nothing

490
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Speaker 6: lead over Villanova with just under eleven minutes left in

491
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Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. Oregon State in Texas Tech finally getting

492
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Speaker 6: started the twenty first rint Red Raiders with a seven

493
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Speaker 6: to nothing lead just under nine minutes left in the

494
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Speaker 6: first quarter. That was in a rain delay for a

495
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Speaker 6: very long time. I was stayed in Arkansas State seventeen

496
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Speaker 6: to thirteen, the fourteenth winning Cyclones in the lead with

497
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Speaker 6: six minutes and six minutes left in the third quarter.

498
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Speaker 6: Texas pulling away a little bit from UTEP seventeen to

499
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Speaker 6: three as they just kicked a field goal eight minutes

500
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Speaker 6: left in the third quarter there.

501
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Speaker 4: And Miami South Florida still in her rain delay. Excuse me.

502
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Speaker 6: Oregon beat Northwestern thirty four to fourteen. Earlier today we

503
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Speaker 6: saw Oklahoma with a big win over Temple. Alabama blew

504
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Speaker 6: out Wisconsin. Michigan blew out Central Michigan. Auburn thirty one

505
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Speaker 6: to fifteen over South Alabama Missouri fifty two to ten

506
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 6: over Louisiana Georgia Tech with a fifty five yard field

507
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Speaker 6: goal as the clock hit zero to beat Clemson. That's

508
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Speaker 6: Clemson's second loss on the year. They were twelfth after

509
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Speaker 6: losing already. They started out fourth in the polls. Now

510
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 6: they they were twelfth today they will fall pretty precipitously,

511
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Speaker 6: I imagine after this loss here and again Tennessee Georgia

512
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Speaker 6: the game of the day thus far, the fifteenth ranth

513
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Speaker 6: Volunteers with a twenty eight to twenty seven lead over

514
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Speaker 6: the six ringed Bulldogs, who just got into the red

515
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Speaker 6: zone on a pass completion on second and five.

516
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Speaker 4: Fitz, Steve back to you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you mentioned how even this game has been. They

518
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Speaker 2: entered the fourth quarter each team with three hundred and

519
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: fifty six yards of total offense. It's about as even

520
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: as you can get in this game. It's crazy, Steve,

521
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: when you've got this sort of back and forth game,

522
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: like we will mask all of the warts at college football,

523
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: and that's the craziest part of the game. We will

524
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Speaker 2: mask all of the warts, even the other games today

525
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: that have just been trash, We'll mask all of it

526
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Speaker 2: by having one epic finish in an SEC rivalry match up.

527
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Speaker 3: I have to break in for a moment here on

528
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Speaker 3: the Arch Manning situation, if it's okay with you, Jason,

529
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Speaker 3: And the reason being is is that we have been conned. Well,

530
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Speaker 3: this is the thing about nil money, right, So Arch

531
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Speaker 3: Manning who played high school football in a league that

532
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: was a lower level league. It was one of those

533
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Speaker 3: leagues where you can pile up good numbers and he

534
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: had the Manning name on top of that, and then

535
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: there was always the suspicion of this, if this guy's

536
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Speaker 3: going to be a future number one overall pick in

537
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Speaker 3: the NFL draft, how is it that he's sitting for

538
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Speaker 3: two years behind Quinn Yewers, who ended up being a

539
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: seventh round pick in the NFL. And now we know

540
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Speaker 3: first half today against UTEP five of sixteen passing sixty

541
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Speaker 3: nine yards, no touchdowns, in a pick five of sixteen

542
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Speaker 3: sixty nine yards, notchte touchdowns and a pick at home

543
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Speaker 3: against the UTEP Miners. This is one of the greatest

544
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Speaker 3: frauds ever perpetrated in the history of college football, arch

545
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 3: man and forget the numbers, just the eyeball test. You know,

546
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm a stats guy, big time stats guy,

547
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: but I will depend on the eyeball test. They go

548
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: back to that opening game against Ohio State and they

549
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: were reviewing film of that game. He had receivers open

550
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: down field. He just refused to pull the trigger. Check down,

551
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: check down, checkdown. And now Texas has come out in

552
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: the second half. Think about this. They're halfway through the

553
00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: third quarter, He's thrown one pass for eight yards. They're

554
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: running the ball on every down. This is one of

555
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: the greatest frauds in the history of college football. Arch

556
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: Manning should transfer to an FCS school right now, because

557
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: that's where he belongs. He is not a major college talent,

558
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 3: much less a potential number one overall pick in the

559
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: NFL draft. We have been fooled. We are talking about

560
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: Clemson Uller. We are fooled by that. But this one

561
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: is next level. Jason arch Manning. I'm telling I'm watching.

562
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of quarterbacks in my lifetime. He

563
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: doesn't have it. He's not even close to being a

564
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: Division one elite quarterback. Are you kidding. He's barely passable

565
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: six of seventeen passing at home against UTIP today.

566
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Speaker 2: Even last week, when you look back, I know people say, well,

567
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: four touchdowns in this game, and I heard people at

568
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: the time saying, oh Arch cleaned it up. I argued

569
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: that that wasn't true. If you watched the first quarter

570
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 2: on that he had two overthrows that should have been

571
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: picked And I mean, if you're overthrowing your guys and

572
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: should be picked against, I don't know, San Jose State,

573
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: you got a problem. And now they're taking to your

574
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: point that it's UTEP. It's not like they've got The

575
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: one nice thing for Texas is they've got a little

576
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: bit before they're actually challenged in this game or in

577
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: this season. But the other angle on this that I think,

578
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: or the other important point that I think needs to

579
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: be made, is look back at last year. You mentioned

580
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Speaker 2: Quinn Ewers being a seventh round pick. I'll double down

581
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 2: on that and say late in the season, Quinn Eewers

582
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: was hobbled and needed help and he was just injured

583
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: and you could see that. And what did Texas need

584
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: in that moment. Texas needed a mobile quarterback that could

585
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: run around and buy him a little bit of time

586
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: to make some extra plays. That's exactly what Art is

587
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: supposed to do. But they never got that opportunity. They

588
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: never put him in the game, and that has to

589
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: say so, Like I'm looking around saying, do we suddenly

590
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: believe that Sark is an incompetent coach? Because if we

591
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: don't believe that, then why wouldn't you go to the

592
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: quarterback that can help you with what you need when

593
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: your starter is obviously a shell of himself. They didn't

594
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: do that, So I think your point's are valid one.

595
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's part of why it's really dangerous,

596
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: even for NFL fans listening. It is so dangerous. I've

597
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: been lucky enough to cover the NFL Draft every single

598
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: year of my career, first for ESPN, now for Yahoo Sports.

599
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: I've covered it every year of my career. And one

600
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: of the dumbest things we do when we're covering a

601
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: draft is we say, well, next.

602
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: Year's quarterback class looks.

603
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: Like it's going to be elite, ye based on what Like,

604
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: we didn't know Jayden Daniels was going to be Jaden No,

605
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: we had no idea. So like where we sit today, Burrow.

606
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: Anybody think Joe Burrow is going to be that quarterback

607
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: going into senior at LSU.

608
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent, you're one hundred percent. And I

609
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: keep looking at all this saying it takes. There are

610
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: so many variables that when we go into the season

611
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: that if your answer is a fan is well, we'll

612
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: address quarterback next year. Will you are we really sure

613
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: that next year's quarterback lass is going to be better?

614
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: Or are you really sure that this one's going to suck?

615
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: Like I just I think there's too much forward looking

616
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: right now in college football, and Arch is the great

617
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: example of that. There are Saints fans there that had

618
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: been that became comfortable with the concept of we're going

619
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: to suck this year, so we gave the first overall

620
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: pick to get Arch and then lost their minds when

621
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Speaker 2: you know, it looked like Arch might not want to

622
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Speaker 2: come out. And now we're watching an Arch that certainly

623
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: isn't going to be ready to come out, like Arch

624
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: needs more time in college football. That's alarming to me, Steve,

625
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure that when cam word was an

627
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: incarnate word, you said, well, that guy's gonna be the

628
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: first pick in the draft. I mean, look at this guy.

629
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Speaker 3: No one said that. I mean, there is a development

630
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Speaker 3: in these quarterbacks. Right now, I am done. Texas just

631
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: intercepted a pass at midfield and they are running the

632
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Speaker 3: ball on every play. We are now at the below

633
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Speaker 3: the six minute mark of the third quarter and arch

634
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: Manning has thrown one pass in this half. They're running

635
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: it on every play against you tap, I mean they're hiding.

636
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 3: Arch Manning at this point six of seventeen passing for

637
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Speaker 3: seventy seven yards, no touchdowns and a pick. Unbelievable.

638
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: But there's so even another level to what you just

639
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: said that I think is important. By the way, you

640
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Speaker 2: listening to Steve Hartman and Jason Fitz. We're hanging out

641
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642
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Speaker 2: iHeart app, so we'll always pop up the top of

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Speaker 2: your screen. And you mentioned Texas and where they are

650
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Speaker 2: right now, Well they're taking on youtub. Look, you're gonna

651
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Speaker 2: win this football game. You should win this football game.

652
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Speaker 2: You're up seventeen to three. You're running the football every play.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the wrong strategy here. Even if Art sucks,

654
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Speaker 2: he needs these reps, y you need like you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be able to beat Utep one way or the other.

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Speaker 2: So start putting the ball in his hands and figure

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Speaker 2: it out. Like, figure it out if you've even got

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Speaker 2: your starting quarterback that can make you an elite team

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Speaker 2: in the SEC. Because if the answer to that is

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Speaker 2: you don't. I don't care how much nil money he's made,

661
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Speaker 2: and I don't care how much fans want him in there,

662
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Speaker 2: and I don't care if the local Buddy Garrity of

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Speaker 2: the Texas football team wants him in there. Also, you

664
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Speaker 2: got to figure out what quarterback can actually win the

665
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Speaker 2: SEC for you, because right now it ain't Arch No.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have the Sea. This was the team

667
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Speaker 3: that was ragged number one in the country going into

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Speaker 3: the season. Number one. Texas had never been a preseason

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Speaker 3: number one team. Look, next week they have Sam Houston

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Speaker 3: and then they get right into the meat of it.

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Speaker 3: You got a desperate FLOORIDA team on the road Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: whose quarterback actually looks good then you know road games.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I mean this is unreal. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I had no idea. The mystery has been really exposed

675
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Speaker 3: of why why this guy with all the high would

676
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Speaker 3: sit for two years, two years behind a guy that

677
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Speaker 3: eventually became a seventh round pick in the NFL. And

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Speaker 3: that's because he doesn't have the talent. He just doesn't

679
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Speaker 3: have the talent. He played in high school. He ran

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Speaker 3: up numbers against overmatch high school teams. That's what he did.

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Speaker 3: It was complete fraud at I mean, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to just be labor this point, but I mean this

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Speaker 3: game that we're watching right now is stunning. This is

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Speaker 3: the kind of game that you've seen these other quarterbacks

685
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Speaker 3: put up huge numbers Jays, you know, like the eighteen

686
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Speaker 3: of twenty one, two hundred and sixty yards, five touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Take a seat, you know at halftime. That's what this

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Speaker 3: game is supposed to be. It's seventeen to three, Texas

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Speaker 3: a preseason number one is up by two scores against

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Speaker 3: UTEP in the third quarter at home. Come on, so

691
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Speaker 3: there's another school you can dismiss because they don't have

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. Erase Texas, they will not be a factor

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Speaker 3: at all this season in terms of any playoff or

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Speaker 3: national championship. They just don't have it. I mean, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you this though, they do have a running game,

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Speaker 3: and so at least I'll say this for Sark, he

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Speaker 3: realizes his best talent is not his quarterback, it's his

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Speaker 3: running game. And that's the direction he's going right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're running against UTEP and you're not wrong,

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Speaker 2: by the way, but you're running again TEP. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's like playing a dodgeball with the fat kid in

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Speaker 2: fifth grade. Like I was the fat kid, So I

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Speaker 2: get this, But like there is some element of your

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Speaker 2: running the football against a team that you should be

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Speaker 2: able to run the football against it. And your point

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Speaker 2: is a really important one about what it means for

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Speaker 2: Texas to season, because I think we have to understand

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Speaker 2: that success is differently defined for different programs. So if

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Speaker 2: your idea for success is Texas, for Texas is can

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Speaker 2: they get into the college football Playoff? Well, given their

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Speaker 2: schedule and their preseason expectations and the fact that they

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Speaker 2: can run the football, probably can't get into it. But

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Speaker 2: can they win a national championship? I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: And that's why, like I said as we started the show,

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Speaker 2: can can Clemson find their way into the college football Playoff?

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Speaker 2: Maybe they can win a bad ACC I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But does that make them a national championship contender?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Hell no it doesn't. By the way, a busted coverage

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Speaker 2: in the back for Georgia who had taken a lead.

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Speaker 2: They just another long touchdown. We always keep talking, we

722
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Speaker 2: keep talking about Kirby can take down Hypel every time

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Speaker 2: these two go at it.

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Speaker 3: How often does Georgia give up this many points?

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Speaker 2: Georgia gave up more plays of more than fifteen yards

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Speaker 2: in the first half than they'd given up all season combined.

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Speaker 2: So wow, Tennessee is gashing them with big plays. It

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Speaker 2: is thirty four to thirty pending the extra point. We'll

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Speaker 2: keep getting updated on the college football scores. You need

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Speaker 2: to know. Plus, the level of chaos we're about to

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Speaker 2: see tomorrow could absolutely blow your mind in Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it next on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. He's Steve Hartman,

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Fitz We're hanging out with you on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. On a Fox Sports Saturday, Tennessee has put

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Speaker 2: up four hundred and thirty one yards of total offense

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Speaker 2: on Georgia. They're ahead thirty five to thirty with nine

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Speaker 2: and a half minutes to go. Georgia with the ball,

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Speaker 2: and what essentially at this point is video game football team.

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Speaker 2: It's no longer like this is we are watching EA Sports,

741
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: you know, college football video game in frontals. There's no defense,

742
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Speaker 2: there's nobody stopping anybody. The both teams are just march

743
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Speaker 2: up and down the field as they see fit.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, again, this is not what we've seen

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Speaker 3: from Georgia recently obviously. I mean they have, you know,

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago there, like their entire defense

747
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Speaker 3: was drafted, you know, so they're for whatever reason, Georgia

748
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: just does not have the defensive personnel that we've seen

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Speaker 3: over the last couple of years, and Tennessee has taken

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Speaker 3: advantage and get back to Joey Agilar twenty one to

751
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: twenty nine, three hundred and fifty one yards, four touchdowns.

752
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: Did have a couple of picks in this game, but

753
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: this is a kid that was signed, sealed and delivered

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Speaker 3: to come to UCLA, and then Nico decided to leave

755
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Speaker 3: Tennessee to come to Ucla. By the way, I heard,

756
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: they've been brutal, brutal on Ia Malayava and his departure

757
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: from Tennessee and all over his ass. Now that he

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Speaker 3: is sitting on a UCLA team that is.

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Speaker 2: Zero and three, Oh yeah, I mean, you know, Klay

760
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: Travis doesn't miss a single opportunity on Twitter x to

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Speaker 2: make sure that the world knows that Nico made a decision.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting to me because you mentioned the landscape of

763
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Speaker 2: college football earlier, and I think it's just going to

764
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: be part of the conversation around the balls every single time.

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Speaker 2: Oh we have a bubble. Oh yeah, you're I think

766
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Speaker 2: you're ahead of me. You must be at I'm a

767
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: little ahead of you.

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Speaker 3: But it looks like Georgia does fumbled and Tennessee has recovered.

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Speaker 2: Again another Unfortunately, this game has had its fair share

770
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Speaker 2: of turnovers. So it's interesting that I mentioned neither team

771
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: playing any defense. This feels like one of those games

772
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 2: where both teams are going to pick up a bunch

773
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Speaker 2: of yards, but it's gonna be who can make the

774
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Speaker 2: other team make a mistake here or there, and man,

775
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: with this timing left, now we have two turnovers on

776
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Speaker 2: each side for each team. I should say, boy, this

777
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: becomes all the way back to what I've been saying

778
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: for the whole season. Like Gunner stocked in the quarterback

779
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 2: for Georgia drops back, doesn't feel the pressure coming. Gunners

780
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: had some really good moments, but man, it makes me nervous.

781
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: It makes me nervous. These games are decided in the margins,

782
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: and quarterback play is everything in the modern college football landscape.

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Speaker 3: Well, but because of the change with the playoff, the

784
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Speaker 3: expansion to twelve schools, and we saw it last year

785
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Speaker 3: obviously with Ohio State, I mean, one of the ugliest

786
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: losses in Buckeye history, losing that game to Michigan that

787
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: would have been in right, Oh, you're right, And they

788
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 3: still sneak in as an eight seed and they end

789
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: up getting on a run they win the national championship.

790
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: So you know, we're sitting here, we're watching because we

791
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: were talking about Alabama how bad they looked against Florida State.

792
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: Well they looked obviously much better today. So you know,

793
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, are you in favor of even expanding

794
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 3: the playoff beyond twelve. I here's what I hate about

795
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: this one, Jason, is the bye I predicted last year,

796
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: one of a few few times I actually said something

797
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: that was right, where the teams that had the buys

798
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: were all in trouble, deep trouble, and all four of

799
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Speaker 3: them lost.

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Speaker 2: All of them.

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Speaker 3: Buys don't work on the college game. They barely work

802
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 3: at the professional level. So I would either have eight

803
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: teams or sixteen. Everyone should have the same number of

804
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 3: games in the playoffs. But the idea of saying, well,

805
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: we need more SEC schools and more Big ten schools

806
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: in the playoff. This is my frustration right now, Jason,

807
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 3: with where we're going right now in the college game.

808
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: No one seems to really have a sense what directions

809
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: should we should go. But right now we have a

810
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: completely discombobulated menu that I look at right now for

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Speaker 3: college football, and it's driving me nuts.

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00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: That's because everybody's worried about what they want, and nobody's

813
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: worried about what's best for the game long term. And

814
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 2: that's the craziest part about this is the Big ten's

815
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 2: worried about the Big Ten, the SEC is worried about

816
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: the SEC, and the other conferences are worried that the

817
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: Big ten and the SEC will simply walk away and

818
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: take their ball with them and leave the playground if

819
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: they're not happy. So for me, I actually I think

820
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: playoff expansion to sixteen is inevitable. So you know, to me,

821
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Speaker 2: it's just rip off the band aid. I'm very logic

822
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Speaker 2: driven in everything that I do, So if the logic

823
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Speaker 2: tells me we're going to go to sixteen anyway, then

824
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Speaker 2: let's just go to sixteen and get there. There is

825
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: this point where, you know, so often they talk about

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Speaker 2: diminishing returns. Don't think that there's diminishing returns on football.

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Speaker 2: It's just the ratings are always through the roof on

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Speaker 2: these things compared to what anything else would ever give us.

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Speaker 2: So even if the argument is the ratings are down,

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Speaker 2: I've said this for years with college basketball because I

831
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Speaker 2: love college basketball, and you'll hear people say, oh, well,

832
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Speaker 2: you know, the ratings of college basketball are bad for

833
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Speaker 2: this or that. My question is, Okay, what are the

834
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Speaker 2: ratings for a college basketball game that nobody's talking about

835
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Speaker 2: in January versus whatever else the network would be playing

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Speaker 2: that day. And the answer is they're better. So as

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Speaker 2: long as the ratings for college football expansion are better

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Speaker 2: than they would be for whatever else the network would

839
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Speaker 2: be asking us to watch in that moment, then we're

840
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: gonna get it. And it's just the way it's gonna be.

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00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: So the only way that if you're a college football

842
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: die hard, the only way that you can really affect

843
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: change would be to stop watching what you don't like.

844
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Speaker 2: But the fact is, nobody that loves the sport of

845
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Speaker 2: college football is gonna stop watching college football. Huge kick,

846
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: by the way, forty eight yard field goal Tennessee takes

847
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Speaker 2: a thirty eight to thirty leaves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's They're looking awfully right now. And obviously the

849
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: fans and Kneeland are very happy. You know, a lot

850
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: of people are frustrated right now. You know, Ohio State, well,

851
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Speaker 3: they had no business winning a national championship. They lost

852
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: two games. They lost to Michigan. I'm like, welcome to

853
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: professional sports. Yeah, the best team doesn't always win the championship.

854
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 3: Does anyone believe that that Giants team that defeated the

855
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: Patriots when their undefeated season was a better team, Well

856
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Speaker 3: they were that day. They could play ten times, they

857
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: would beat them once, but it was that day. This

858
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Speaker 3: is the way it is in professional sports all the time.

859
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 3: The best team doesn't always win. It's the right place,

860
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: right time. You know, there's a lot that goes into

861
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: winning a championship in a playoff format, and that's where

862
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: we are right now in college football.

863
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: You're one thousand percent right. We'll keep breaking on this

864
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: result and everything else from the college football Saturday when

865
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: we come back. He's Steve Hartman. I'm Jason Fitt, hanging

866
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: out with you on Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to

867
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Radio. The game of the day is

868
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: down to the wire to drying me. The finish of

869
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: the year so far, and we're here for every single

870
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: second of it. Got you covered on Fox Sports Radios. Tennessee,

871
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: Georgia is giving us an electric finish at neland Stadium.

872
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: He's Steve Hartman. I'm Jason Fitz. I have a question

873
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: by Steve. All right, as we watched this game go

874
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: down to the wire right now in Tennessee, as you

875
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: just heard from, Martin Weiss is up thirty eight thirty

876
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: with three forty five to go. It was a big

877
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: touchdown earlier and I'm looking at Twitter X right now,

878
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: a big touchdown pass by Tennessee big touchdown catch, Georgia

879
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: fans absolutely losing their minds about the fact that they

880
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: thought there should have been an offensive pass interferance on it.

881
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: And it's one of the things that absolutely drives me crazy.

882
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: So you know, peak me on the curtain here to

883
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: when I'm not watching sports, I am currently obsessed with.

884
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: I'll admit it, like it's weird. I'm currently obsessed with

885
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: on YouTube like sovereign citizen, traffic stops and court drama.

886
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: I've decided I like my version of law and order,

887
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: like we're Everybody's like, no, the laws don't apply to me,

888
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: and then they go to court and they're like, the

889
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: laws don't apply to me. And the craziest part about

890
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 2: that when we get to court is that so often

891
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: the judge will rule on something and explain very clearly

892
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: why they're ruling on what they're ruling, and you'll hear

893
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: the sovereign citizen argument say well, I object. And I

894
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: was watching one the other day where the judge kept saying,

895
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: you can't object to this. I've ruled. So you may

896
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: not like my ruling. You can appeal my ruling, but

897
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: you can't object and the guy just kept screaming. I object.

898
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: What I think is funny is that the broadcast did

899
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: a beautiful job of explaining why the play in question

900
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: was not offensive past interference. The rules expert came in

901
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: and did a beautiful job. I've got close captioning on

902
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: the studio during the break I watched it. At the

903
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: time I watched it, I thought, that's a really good breakdown.

904
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: So I did the wrong thing. I looked at Twitter

905
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: X and I see everybody losing their minds like this.

906
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what everybody wants. Just because somebody puts

907
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: their hands on somebody doesn't mean it's necessarily offensive or

908
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: defensive pass interference. So it's crazy to me that we

909
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: watch these games and even when people offer expertise, fans

910
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: cheer not to listen, Like it's like talking to a

911
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist. You can you can convince a conspiracy theorist

912
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: of another conspiracy theorist, you just can't convince them of

913
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: a fact ever. And I feel like that's what's become

914
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: a football consumption in general. Everybody's convinced that their team

915
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: is going to get a call that absolutely screws them.

916
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: And I think The truth is, if you put truth

917
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: seeram in all of our ages, your favorite team's going

918
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 2: to get some calls. They're not going to get some calls,

919
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: And over the course of the year, they're probably going

920
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: to win a game they shouldn't and they're probably going

921
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: to lose the game they shouldn't. And if you just

922
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: accept that the human portion of this is just going

923
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: to make that happen, you'd have a much better watching experience.

924
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how to keep fans happy.

925
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 3: Well, you remember with the NFL and that infamous Saints

926
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: game where they had the non call on the pass interference.

927
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: So the NFL decided that offseason, fine, we'll do review

928
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: of pass interference. Of course that was a non call.

929
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: Can you review a non call that they didn't have that?

930
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: It was a disaster, Jason. I mean, that's why after

931
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: one year they killed it. Look, it's it's hard. It's

932
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: hard now to look back before replay on both the

933
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 3: collegiate level and the pro level, of how many games,

934
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: some of the most famous games of all time, could

935
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: have had an alternate ending had they had replay. That

936
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: happens all the time you look back. I mean, the

937
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 3: history of sports if replay had always been there would

938
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: have a very different look because there have been a

939
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: lot of phantom touchdowns. Or you remember, obviously the Galarraga

940
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: perfect game where the first May's umpire blows it.

941
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: The guy through a perfect.

942
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: Game doesn't go on the record books because the Empire said, no,

943
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: he's safe at first. So I mean, this is what

944
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: we're faced with. Plus with social media, Jason, you know,

945
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: they replay these scenes over and over and again. We

946
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: see this not out justin sports. It's everyone has got

947
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: their own set of rules right now, and because of

948
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: social media, you find somebody that actually believes what you believe.

949
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: Oh I'm not the only one that thought that was

950
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: a bad call. And then it's just a pylon situation.

951
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: So unfortunately, this is where we're at. You know, there

952
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: was frustration back in the day. And again I'm old school,

953
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: and this is you know, there was a time when

954
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 3: there were blown calls.

955
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: All the time that you look back like.

956
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. I remember usc Charles White, Heisman

957
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: Trophy winner scored a winning touchdown against Michigan and the

958
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: Rose Bowl he clearly fumbled in mid air.

959
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: Was even close.

960
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: You watch the replays two yards short of the goal

961
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: I touchdown, USC wins and it's in the record books.

962
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: Replay would have reversed it.

963
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: So I know where won a national championship. Down down,

964
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: what are we doing? By the way, quickly, Georgia just

965
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown on a fourth and six, a twenty

966
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: eight yard touchdown pass. They are going for two.

967
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: Week predict he's gonna make it.

968
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: Ahead. You might be ahead of me, Yeah, you might

969
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: be ahead of me. This is the joy of streaming

970
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: because we all are in today's world. You're right, two

971
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: pointed version's good.

972
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: We have a tie game between Turty all two and

973
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: a half minutes ago. All right, so let's see what

974
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: Joey Agilar does here. Look, if you're Tennessee, if you're

975
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: a hyper right now, you want to you want to

976
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 3: eat up clock right, I mean, you don't want to

977
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 3: give Georgia an opportunity match. It's not like Tennessee hasn't

978
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 3: been moving the ball all game long. They have three

979
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty one yards through the air, they have

980
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: four hundred and forty total yards. So this is the

981
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: perfect opportunity for Tennessee. Huge game matchup to beat Georgia,

982
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: even at home, would be huge for Tennessee. But yeah,

983
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: you just want to grind it out, use up clock,

984
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: and somehow come down to, you know, a last second

985
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 3: field goal attempt, chip shot to win the game. That's

986
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: what the balls are hoping to do.

987
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also believe that life gets easier in overtime

988
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: in college football than it does with what you're facing

989
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: now with two thirty two to go. With two thirty two,

990
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: you're going to have to go down the entire field.

991
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to hope nobody makes a mistake. You

992
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: want to be aggressive, but not too aggressive. To your point,

993
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: if you don't do it quickly. If you do it

994
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: too quickly, you leave time. If you're three and out

995
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: quickly because you're trying to be aggressive, you leave them opportunity.

996
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: There is a fine line here, But the way college

997
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: football is particularly set up for overtime gives your offense

998
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: such an opportunity to just keep the game going and

999
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: score because of the proximity worth with where you start.

1000
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like with two thirty two, there's just

1001
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: a both teams have a full count of timeouts right now,

1002
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: thirty eight thirty eight to two thirty two to go,

1003
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: Georgia kicking off to Tennessee at Newland Stadium in the

1004
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: game of the day. Also, I will say this, Steve,

1005
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: both of these teams look like playoff caliber football teams.

1006
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: Like no matter who loses this football game Tennessee, I

1007
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: think is proven that they belong in the college football

1008
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: playoff conversation throughout the course of this season.

1009
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: Well, again, you got twelve schools, So are we gonna

1010
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: just decide we're gonna get four schools out of the

1011
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: Big ten, four schools out of the SEC, and then

1012
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: the ACC Big twelve, and then you're, you know, group

1013
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: of five get to divide up the other four spots.

1014
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: Is that it is? That pretty much the format now

1015
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 3: for college football playoff?

1016
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: I mean, hopefully the committee doesn't. It isn't to beholden

1017
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: to where it comes from. Look, I'm a believer if

1018
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: I was the tzar of college football, and unfortunately nobody

1019
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: yet has given me that title, even though I think

1020
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: I'm very deserving. If I were with the czar, I

1021
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: would simply decide on the twelve best. I don't care

1022
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: where they come from. Unfortunately, that's not the world we

1023
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: live in. So you're right, by the time we get

1024
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: the four Power four champions and the highest rank group

1025
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: of five, you've got five teams that will go in,

1026
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: and that leaves you seven at largest. How those seven

1027
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: at largs are split out becomes the heated debate. But

1028
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 2: there's just not much in the big Look. The top

1029
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: of the Big ten is absolutely elite. The middle of

1030
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: the Big ten it looks more like the bottom of

1031
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Look at what Alabama did and I

1032
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: don't think Alabama's a great football team this year, but

1033
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: look at what they did to Wisconsin. I don't think

1034
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: Wisconsin is a great football team, but they just got

1035
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: run out of that building. So you know, I wonder

1036
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: how many SEC teams make it. But if you're Tennessee

1037
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: currently ranked number fifteen, I don't think you did anything

1038
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: today that doesn't continue to bolster your resume when you're

1039
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: taking on the number sixteam in Georgia that by the

1040
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 2: end of the year could be even higher.

1041
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 3: See I've been saying this for years, Jason. I'm going

1042
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: to go back at least twenty five years ago that

1043
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 3: I suggested on the air that eventually Division One football

1044
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: as it was then known not FBS, would end up

1045
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: with sixty four schools equally divided in four conferences, sixteen

1046
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: schools in each conference, and then you divide each conference

1047
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 3: into two divisions of eight. You play seven games against

1048
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 3: every team in your own division, and then you play

1049
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: either the top half or the other half of the

1050
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: division within your conference all eleven games within the conference,

1051
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 3: and then the two division winners playing a conference championship game,

1052
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 3: creating a unique Final four where none of the schools

1053
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: possibly could have faced each other there at any point

1054
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: during that season. Now, that was a far fetched idea

1055
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 3: twenty five years ago. We're getting close to that. But

1056
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: they're just there is no reason I would agree with

1057
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: you this about the twelve best schools. One hundred percent

1058
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 3: agree with that, because there's really no room. I'm sorry

1059
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 3: for the group of five. They should be their own division.

1060
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they should have their own championship. Let's take

1061
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 3: you know again, maybe sixty four schools. Maybe even that's

1062
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: too many. Well, let's stay sixty four instead of one

1063
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty. Let's get it down to sixty four

1064
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 3: schools competing on what would be a much even level.

1065
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: And you know, I just joke, like this New Mexico

1066
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: game at the Rose Bowl yesterday. You see, LA paid

1067
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: New Mexico one point two million dollars to play in

1068
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: that game and then get their ass beat. And I

1069
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: guarantee you they didn't cover that one point two million

1070
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 3: with less than thirty thousand fans at the Rose Bowl.

1071
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: So again, this is all weird. I mean, what are

1072
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: we talking about. Why are some of these games being played?

1073
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: By the way, have you ever heard of Houston Christian?

1074
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: No?

1075
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: No, they lost to it. I was like, I have

1076
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: never heard of that school Houston Christian played today.

1077
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: I think there's just this weird element for me because

1078
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 2: you know, I grew up in Vegas as a kid

1079
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: and UNLV football. I have a UNLV football behind me.

1080
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: Am I gonna say that? Like what, am I the

1081
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 2: one guy on national media that's a diehard UNLV football fan.

1082
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that. I like I watched UNLV football.

1083
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: I grew up a UNLV basketball fan because I went

1084
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: to those games with Stacy Augman and Larry Johnson and

1085
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: all of that as a kid. I think there's an

1086
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: element for me though. As much as I love the

1087
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: fact that if we're being honest, UNLV I think has

1088
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: a better path to the college football Playoff most years

1089
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: than the middle of the Big Ten, the middle of

1090
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: the SEC like the Wisconsin You got a better shot

1091
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: if you're Dan Mullen, the head coach UNLV football, you

1092
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: got a better shot at making the college football playoff

1093
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: as UNLV's head coach then you do, you know, is

1094
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: if you're a Wisconsin's head coach at this point one

1095
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: hundred percent to me, because the group of five allows

1096
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: that opportunity?

1097
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 4: Should it?

1098
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean, do I really believe most of years? So

1099
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: everybody says, well, you know this way, everybody has a chance,

1100
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: do they. I mean, yeah, you have a chance to

1101
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: get some of that money and then go in and

1102
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: get your ass absolutely handed to you by a team

1103
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: that's bigger, stronger, better, faster, deeper. Like, sure, you might

1104
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: be able to win a playoff game if you have

1105
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 2: Ashton gent As you're running back one year and you're like, hey,

1106
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: look at what we can do. But do we really

1107
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 2: believe that a group of five is going to ever

1108
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: make a run that puts them consistently in that chance

1109
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: for a national championship? Answers No. So it's just to me,

1110
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: it's a condescending way to get another team in where

1111
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: you say everybody has a chance, but you don't really

1112
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: Steve have a.

1113
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: Chance, Jason. I see Martin just waving his hand at

1114
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 3: me right now. Yes, Martin, you want to interject something

1115
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: I do.

1116
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 6: Houston Christian University, Yes, is a recently renamed version of

1117
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 6: Houston Baptist Universe that.

1118
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 4: Makes sense, which you may have heard of.

1119
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 6: Notable alumni include Bailey's Happy Yes, I remember Houston Baptist.

1120
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: I thought this Houston Christian came out of nowhere.

1121
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 4: Tayln's hunt on the Eagles diva divine Houston Christian.

1122
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: Thank you. I was curious I saw Houston Christian. I'm like,

1123
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 3: where did this school come from?

1124
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: I still live in a world where I think a

1125
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: University of North Texas is being a great jazz band program,

1126
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: not a football team. I'm just gonna be honest, man, like,

1127
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: this is so to your point, that's just it's weird.

1128
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: It is right, all right. We got under two minutes

1129
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: to go right now. Tennessee is sitting there. They got

1130
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: a first down right now at their own thirty nine

1131
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: yard line. So they're doing what I was hoping they

1132
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: would do. If you're a Tennessee fan trying to grind

1133
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: it out the running the ball right now. In fact,

1134
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 3: they just cross midfield, so use up the clock for

1135
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 3: both teams have three timeouts, so we'll see how this

1136
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: plays out. But Tennessee on the move tied thirty eight

1137
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 3: all with Georgia.

1138
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: Now, the surprising part of it this is you've got

1139
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: a head coach known for defense at Georgia and a

1140
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 2: head coach known for offense at Tennessee, and that head

1141
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: coach at that Kirby Smart, absolutely kicked typos butt for

1142
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: the most part, and in this game it's going the

1143
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: other way. We'll get you updated on how this all

1144
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: plays out. Coming up next to Steve Hartman, I'm Jason fitz.

1145
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: We're getting it caught up on everything you need to

1146
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: know in college football, hanging out with you on a

1147
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. We'll get the

1148
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: end of the game coming next. For the first time

1149
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: in his entire career, Max Gilbert, sophomore for the Tennessee Volunteers,

1150
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 2: is about to attempt what would be a game winning

1151
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: or game tying and he's never done either in his career.

1152
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 2: Field goal seven seconds to go in the matchup between

1153
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 2: fifteenth rank Tennessee and sixth rank Georgia. The game tied

1154
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: at thirty eight each seven seconds to go. Gilbert the

1155
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: sophomore about to come out and try and win the game.

1156
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: I can't imagine he's Steve Hartman. I'm Jason Fitz. We're

1157
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: hanging out with the on Fox Sports Radio. I cannot

1158
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: imagine the adrenaline for the best pregame show. By the way,

1159
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Speaker 2: speaking of adrenaline, every weekend, be sure to tune into

1160
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1164
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1166
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1167
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: You can just see the angst on the faces of

1168
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: everybody at Nland Steve as they are getting ready to

1169
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: attempt what would be the game winning kick, and I

1170
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: just I know it's his kicker. It's a kicker's job.

1171
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: I just always think about the fact that you know,

1172
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: for these kids, you don't know like in his career

1173
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: he's never attempted a game tying or game winning field goal,

1174
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: and now in front of one hundred thousand people, I

1175
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: just can't tell if like you're in your mind, are

1176
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: you thinking, hell, yes, I've dreamed about this moment since

1177
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: I was a kid, or in your mind you feel

1178
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: a little puckered up. I will find out, but I

1179
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

1180
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: Well. I mean, it's a very makeable field goal, so

1181
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: if he misses, it's a choke job. Let's let's call

1182
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: it for what it is. This actually played out exactly

1183
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 3: like I thought I was going to play out here, Jason,

1184
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 3: where Tennessee very methodically burn clock. I was a little

1185
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 3: surprised that Kirby Smart didn't call some timeouts earlier. Finally

1186
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: he burned through all his timeouts to get some time left.

1187
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: They're gonna actually run another play. So they're running another

1188
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: play to even get it down further, although they only

1189
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: one second came off the clock, and there's a flag

1190
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 3: on the play on top of all that, and it's

1191
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: an illegal proceede Are you kidding me? What did Tennessee

1192
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: just do? So now they have to move this back

1193
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: five yards, So they decided to actually run another play.

1194
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: Clearly the left guard move quick, and so instead of

1195
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: a thirty seven yard field goal, now the guy's liking

1196
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: at a forty two yard field goal. Hey, thanks a lot,

1197
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: great call, Josh Hipel, What are you doing? That is

1198
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: unbelievable what Tennessee just did for a kicker that you

1199
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: mentioned has never had an opportunity to attempt a field

1200
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: goal like this. Let's move it back another five yards.

1201
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: Thank god, it wasn't holding. That'd be even worse. Hypel

1202
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: called a great two minute drive.

1203
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: Though.

1204
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: I mean, there were a couple of times where I

1205
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: thought for sure they were just gonna run it, and

1206
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: they threw it in a couple of times that I thought,

1207
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: well and got it like. It felt like they were

1208
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: one step ahead of Kirby Smart every single time.

1209
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: Kid looks so young, Jason, Oh oh.

1210
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: That's why I looked him up like he looks like

1211
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: he's wow.

1212
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: It just like for me, there was moment I got

1213
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: news for you.

1214
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: You're ahead of me. So tell the world what happens.

1215
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: Missed chokedad he choked three seconds left. It wasn't even close.

1216
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: Oi, Oh my god, Now that.

1217
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: Was a push way to the right. He choked it

1218
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: and we will be heading to overtime. The craziest part

1219
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: of me, that's a good thing. They moved him back

1220
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: five yards. That was a brilliant move. Brilliant move.

1221
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: The hardest part about this is now, if you're that kid,

1222
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: if you're Max Gilbert, the kicker for Tennessee, you got

1223
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: to get that out of your mind quick because you're

1224
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: going into overtime and the way the game is structured

1225
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: in overtime, you are going to need to make kick

1226
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: after kick after kick possibly, so you got to get

1227
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: it down. When you see the replay, the kick was,

1228
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: the snap was good, the hold was good. He just

1229
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: pushed it. It wasn't even close hard like it's and

1230
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: he looks stunned on his face. But it's just one

1231
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: of those moments where everything about it looked right except

1232
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: for the kick. And that is now, if you're Tennessee,

1233
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: you got to recalibrate quick.

1234
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: Why did they run that extra play? I have no

1235
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: idea what they did.

1236
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: The fans look absolutely still.

1237
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: Well, they should be stunned because it wasn't just the kick,

1238
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: it was the call before the kick. We had seven

1239
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: seconds left, you know, we're focusing on the kicker and

1240
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 3: they reline it for another play. The guard pulls up early,

1241
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 3: move the ball back another five yards. That couldn't have

1242
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: done well for the psyche of the kicker, and now

1243
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: they're heading to overtime. I'll put it this way right now,

1244
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: I would not bet Tennessee in real time.

1245
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 2: In this overtime now, I mean, it's just looking at

1246
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: Hypel's face and thinking about what I just said, and

1247
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: just getting your entire team to reset. You were in

1248
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: a game that you were up twenty one to seven.

1249
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 2: You're in a game that you were up eight with

1250
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: four minutes to go, you were in a game where

1251
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: you had the opportunity to win it with the game

1252
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 2: winning kick, and you each of those times you melt

1253
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: it down like this is one of those moments where

1254
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: they got to quickly figure out how to put all

1255
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: of that mess behind him and say, hey, if we'd

1256
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: started the day saying we're going to overtime with Georgia,

1257
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: we'd feel pretty good about it. Steve, I mean, that's

1258
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: asking a lot of that. He's gonna have to get

1259
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: that sideline normalized quickly.

1260
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: Jason I got to interject. So apparently what happened here

1261
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: was the reason they ran the extra play was to

1262
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: center the ball. In other words, so he was like

1263
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: on the left hash. Well, if he had remained on

1264
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 3: the left hash, he would have made the field goal

1265
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: because by moving it into the center, it went right.

1266
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: If he had stayed on the left hash, they would

1267
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 3: have made the field goal.

1268
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: Wow.

1269
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean you probably are talking to your kicker

1270
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: like where do you want the ball? Oh?

1271
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 4: The middle?

1272
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: Okay, well we're going to get it into the middle.

1273
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: It's so hard to for that kick because it's just

1274
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: you're right, And now if they lose this game, this

1275
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: is where your point earlier comes back into focus of

1276
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: the fact that this is essentially professional football now right

1277
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: like it is. The grace was the grace was barely

1278
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: there for generations of college football fans anyway, But now

1279
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: just the concept of everybody involved is, well, you're you're

1280
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: paid professional, Like, go, I'll make that kick, and I

1281
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: just the hardest part of leaving it at the foot

1282
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: of the kicker is that, again, when you've got a

1283
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: kicker that's never had to attempt a game tying or

1284
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: game winning field goal, like you just have no idea

1285
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: how he's going to control adrenaline and I don't say

1286
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: that like controlling adrenaline is an easy thing. Not everybody

1287
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: can do it. But one of the toughest things, particularly

1288
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: about college kickers, is if you go all the way

1289
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: back to high school. I don't give a damn what

1290
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: they did in high school. You're talking about one hundred

1291
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: thousand people in front of you. How somebody will handle

1292
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: I'll go back to my music. You never knew the

1293
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: biggest crowd ever played in front of was one hundred

1294
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: and ten thousand. You have no idea how you were

1295
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: going to handle the adrenaline of one hundred and ten

1296
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: thousand until you've had to do it, and just looking

1297
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: at a kid that's kicking and saying, hey, you got

1298
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: to go through everything in your process, and you got

1299
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: to do it exactly the right way, and you've got

1300
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: to calm down, and you've got to get your heart

1301
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: break down. You've got to do all of these things.

1302
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: It's a lot of variables.

1303
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 3: At the end of the game, Yeah, well, obviously did

1304
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: not work out right, But I imagine we'll get the

1305
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,959
Speaker 3: full story in exactly why they ran that last play.

1306
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 3: Whose decision was to get it in the middle of

1307
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: the field. Did you confer with your kicker. If he

1308
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 3: said staffs where he wanted in future times, he'll want

1309
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 3: it on the left ash because he pushes it right.

1310
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 3: That was unbelievable. So wow, that is And again, if

1311
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: Tennessee ends up losing this game in overtime, this is

1312
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: one of those you know, like you said, tough for

1313
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: the kid, but hey, you know what, this is the

1314
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: big time? Can you handle it? He couldn't on that kick,

1315
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 3: So maybe you need to find it an other line

1316
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 3: of work. You know, really focus on your studies. You're

1317
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: getting a college education.

1318
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: Well let's get I want you to hear how I

1319
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: went down. But first let's let's go to Martin Weiss.

1320
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: Let's get an update on what's going on, and then

1321
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: we'll get you caught back up on what that sounded like.

1322
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 6: I mean, Steve, he wasn't gonna make the field goal

1323
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 6: five yards closer, our ten yards closer.

1324
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: But if he had been on the left hash, he

1325
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 3: had a chance, and he was pushing it right.

1326
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 6: He didn't have a chance at all. This guy, Look,

1327
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 6: I'm not even trying to knock the kicker, and I

1328
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 6: get it. You can't have an illegal four. If we

1329
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 6: canna have any type of penalty in that moment, but

1330
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 6: knowing the way he missed it, I don't have a

1331
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 6: problem with them trying to center the ball at the

1332
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 6: end of the game because it looks like it was.

1333
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 4: A fifty to fifty proposition at best. That thing was

1334
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 4: going in.

1335
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: I got news for him. He probably doesn't know his

1336
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 3: own kicking. Next time, if you have a choice, go left.

1337
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: Hash All right, that's what I'm going to work.

1338
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 6: Well, we'll see if it comes up again, because we

1339
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 6: will have at least one overtime period here between Georgia

1340
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 6: and Tennessee thirty eight, all Tennessee missing a potential game

1341
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 6: winning field goal as time expired. It's been a back

1342
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 6: and forth game thus far. Joey Aguilar with four touchdown passes.

1343
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 6: Texas Tech has a twenty one to notzhing lead over

1344
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 6: Oregon State with about two minutes nineteen seconds left in

1345
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 6: the second quarter. Fourth quarter, with just under two minutes left,

1346
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 6: Iowa State leading Arkansas State twenty four to sixteen, U

1347
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 6: kept trying to get on the touchdown on the board.

1348
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 6: As a trail Texas to the seventh three team in

1349
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 6: the nation twenty seven to three South Florida and Miami

1350
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 6: in a top twenty five ranked matchup fifth ranked Hurricanes

1351
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 6: with a twenty one to six lead over the eighteenth

1352
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 6: lank South Florida Bulls, three eighteen left in the first half.

1353
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 4: There that one was under a rain delay for quite

1354
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 4: some time.

1355
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 6: Miami knocking on the door of the end zone right

1356
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 6: now Ohio State with a field goal. With knocking on

1357
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 6: the door, well, Carson Beck got in there two yards

1358
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 6: rushing touchdown twenty eight to six Miami over South Florida.

1359
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 6: Ohio State with a fueld goal. There's under two minutes

1360
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 6: left in the first quarter against Ohio Illinois with a

1361
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 6: three point lead over one Western Michigan with three minutes

1362
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 6: and eighteen seconds left to catch that one on FS

1363
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 6: one and Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss seventeenth Rainey team

1364
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 6: in the nation with a seven and nothing lead over Arkansas.

1365
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 6: Earlier today we saw Villain Penn State fifty two to six,

1366
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 6: with Villanova with that six points killing a lot the

1367
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 6: under and Penn State minus forty whatever they had because

1368
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 6: Villanova end up covering that game. Oregon thirty four, Northwestern

1369
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 6: fourteen Georgia Tech up Jets Clemson twenty four to twenty

1370
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 6: one on a fifty five yard.

1371
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: Fuel goal as time expired. Oklahoma with a big win

1372
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 4: over Temple.

1373
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 6: Same for Alabama over Wisconsin, Same for Michigan over Central Michigan,

1374
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 6: and Auburn and Missouri also winners today. To round out

1375
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 6: the top twenty five. Third down now for the volunteers.

1376
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 6: Third and nine is an attempt to convert this first

1377
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 6: down in the first overtime between Georgia and Tennessee.

1378
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 4: Back to you guys, all.

1379
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: Right, we want you to hear how it went down

1380
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: just moments ago as we were coming to an end

1381
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: in regulation. This is what it sounded like when Tennessee

1382
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: tried to beat Georgia at the end of the football game.

1383
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 4: Kicking to the right, Gilbert.

1384
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: You try to put Tennessee ahead, the kick is away

1385
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: and the kick is.

1386
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 5: Good.

1387
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: He missed it. Oh my goodness, What the heck happened there?

1388
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: What the heck happened there? I love that call. Obviously,

1389
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 3: that was Georgia.

1390
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: That's got Howard from Learfield, by the way, on that call.

1391
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: And like I said, Tennessee would have to put it

1392
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: all behind him and get right back out there for overtime. Well,

1393
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: they had the ball first in overtime and that led

1394
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: to three incomplete passages.

1395
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: All right, well he's attempting another field goal here, Jason

1396
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 3: in the first overtime, so he can ill afford a miss,

1397
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: and this one is right down the middle, so boom,

1398
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 3: the kid rebounds and he makes the field goal to

1399
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: at Tennessee up three in the first overtime.

1400
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 2: By the way, this one from the hash instead of

1401
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 2: from the middle.

1402
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, hash, amazing, how that worked.

1403
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: What do you know? So we ended up we end

1404
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: up with three points for Tennessee. Now they're gonna need

1405
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: a defensive stop in a game that I say defensive

1406
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 2: stop and then I laugh out loud. This game is

1407
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: forty one to thirty eight, and as I said earlier,

1408
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: it's really been defined by not the ability to actually

1409
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: stop anybody, but by some big plays on defense, right

1410
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 2: like that, that's been sort of the calling card. So

1411
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: let's see. Now Georgia's had at this point several minutes

1412
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: where they've been just in football minutes, even where they've

1413
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: been sitting around with their defense on the field and

1414
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, you know, how to get their

1415
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: offense back out there. The last time we saw the

1416
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: Georgia offense they marched down the field, they converted with

1417
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: a touchdown pass on fourth and long, and then they

1418
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: got the two point conversion. So if you're Georgia right now,

1419
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: you know what you need. You need three to tie

1420
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: and keep this game going. A touchdown wins it for

1421
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: the Dogs in a game that, again, if you're just

1422
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: tuning in, Tennessee was up twenty one to seven at

1423
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: one point, Tennessee was up with by eight with four

1424
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: minutes to go, and Tennessee had a chance to win

1425
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: this thing at the end of regulation. Yet here we

1426
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 2: sit Georgia's ball in overtime, and this is Steve.

1427
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh big run all the way down to about the

1428
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 3: two yard line. This game looks like it's gonna be

1429
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 3: over and Tennessee's gonna lose.

1430
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: Ah, he's Steve Hartman, I'm Jason fitz It's this is wild.

1431
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: It is why. I don't know. I just don't know

1432
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: what to make of this. For Tennessee, I don't know

1433
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 2: how you melt down this way. I don't know how

1434
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 2: you let it get to this point.

1435
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 3: I mean twenty one to seven first quarter, Jason, I

1436
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: mean Aguilar in the first quarter had two touchdown passes

1437
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: and a rushing touchdown. I'm one of the fortune ones

1438
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: that have had a Heisman vote for many years, and

1439
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: you know, he was definitely on the radar for me

1440
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 3: after that first quarter. But you know, games like this

1441
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 3: get away from you and it's tough. By the way,

1442
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 3: one guy that will not win the Heisman this year

1443
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 3: is arch Manning. His game is pretty much done. Eleven

1444
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 3: of twenty five, one hundred and fourteen yards, a touchdown

1445
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 3: and a pick for Texas. Eleven of twenty five against UTEP.

1446
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: That is shocking.

1447
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 3: Eleven of twenty five and by the way, the UTEP

1448
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 3: quarterback was twenty four or thirty six against Texas. Arch

1449
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 3: Manny against UTEP eleven of twenty five, one hundred and

1450
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 3: fourteen yards, touchdown in a pick.

1451
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: Look, Texas was going to win this football game anyway,

1452
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: and we talked about it earlier. The fact is they

1453
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: could just run their way to a win.

1454
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: But that.

1455
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: Is a narrative altering stat line for Arch that I

1456
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: think we need to really as a college football community,

1457
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 2: we all need to take a deep breath, look in

1458
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: a mirror and learn from this. My biggest issue with

1459
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: the way that we praised Arch coming in and I

1460
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 2: don't mean we, as in you and I the way

1461
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: that the collective college football community seemed to want to

1462
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 2: praise arch and even I will blame some of the

1463
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: NFL draft people that were just insistent that he was

1464
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: going to be the first pick in the draft next year.

1465
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: When you stack all of that together, shame on all

1466
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: of us for just presuming somebody that had played basically

1467
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: no college football would walk in and truly just have

1468
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 2: it figured out from day one. I am stunned to

1469
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: see this meltdown, But also like we got to learn

1470
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: from this, right, Like Steve, there's a point where we

1471
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: all got to look around and say, we cannot arch

1472
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 2: manning the next kid that we decided to Like, we

1473
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 2: didn't even arch manning Bryce Underwood, who is the ighest

1474
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: paid freshman according to multiple nil reports and we've ever

1475
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: seen at the quarterback position. We didn't arch manning him.

1476
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: We didn't decide he was going to be the Heisman

1477
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: winner from day one. In fact, I think there's been

1478
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 2: a little bit of grace for Michigan's quarterback on how

1479
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: he's going to grow into the role. So I think

1480
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: it's pretty alarming to turn around and just do this

1481
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: to Arch and then also put ourselves in this situation

1482
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: where now Arch is an epic disappointment because we decided,

1483
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: the community decided he was going to be a superstar.

1484
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 3: Well, by the way, mister sec Paul Finbaum called him

1485
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 3: a generational talent. Generational talent. He wasn't just he wasn't

1486
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 3: just good. I mean, this is a generational talent. By

1487
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 3: the way, Arch Manning did run for fifty one yards

1488
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 3: and a couple of scores, a couple of sh touchdown runs.

1489
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: Georgia is really knocking on the door. Not quite in yet,

1490
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 3: but they're getting awfully close.

1491
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still a chance here for Tennessee to try

1492
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 2: and figure out what they're gonna do. Like we we'll

1493
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: see how that one plays out. I really thought on

1494
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 2: second and goal that they got the touchdown, but it

1495
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 2: looks like they're calling them short. So we go to

1496
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Speaker 2: third and goal. Here we here we go third and

1497
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 2: goal from what feels like about the one inch line.

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01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 3: At this point, I thought I was with you. I

1499
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 3: thought he actually got to the line right.

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01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes it clear.

1501
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: So he's life not even close, he's well over well.

1502
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: Over the Georgia should have just won the football game.

1503
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: And and it was not called a touchdown. So really interesting.

1504
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 2: Knee clearly not down, clearly extends over the line, clearly

1505
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: breaks the plane, like that is clearly a touchdown.

1506
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 3: Some of these officials the gout. The side judge is

1507
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 3: looking directly into the line. How and it wasn't like

1508
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: he was that concealed because we're watching a replay. Oh,

1509
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: come on, I mean this is yeah.

1510
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: I mean that's the hard part. Nuts to your point,

1511
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: it's not even what the view we're seeing is what

1512
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: the side judge saw, and it's so abundantly clear on

1513
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 2: that view that this is just one of those one

1514
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: of those how the hell did that?

1515
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 3: They are reviewing the play. Okay, so we are going

1516
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: to get a review of the play. The review will

1517
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 3: show if the guy that's doing the review actually has

1518
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 3: two ey's, that the surge he crossed the and that's it. Yes,

1519
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:35,839
Speaker 3: it has been overturned. Georgia has defeated Tennessee. Brutal loss.

1520
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 3: Jason for the volunteers.

1521
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is the sort of loss that

1522
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: the entire season, the entire season, Tennessee players are going

1523
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 2: to think back to this game and it is just

1524
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 2: this one will take the win out of their sales.

1525
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,799
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, like I said, I think I think Tennessee

1526
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 2: has every opportunity to be a college football playoff team.

1527
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: They're going to have to look in them. And I'm

1528
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 2: not just talking about the Miskick. I'm talking about, as

1529
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: I've referenced a couple of times, the number of meltdowns

1530
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: that it took to get to this point. This is

1531
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: absolutely a staggering loss for the Balls because they know

1532
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: that they blew multiple opportunities to just put this game

1533
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: away and it wasn't. To be very clear, this was

1534
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: not Georgia's finest hower. I think Georgia has a lot

1535
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: to look back on this one and say, yeah, my bad,

1536
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: this was not Georgia's finest hour. But they get a

1537
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,520
Speaker 2: win on the road against a team that just absolutely

1538
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: exploded offensively. I think, Steve, this is this is a

1539
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 2: statement win and a statement loss all in one.

1540
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 3: Well, and again for Georgia, they've dominated this series. I mean,

1541
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 3: they came in with eight straight wins against the Balls,

1542
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 3: So this was one where Tennessee so desperately wanted it.

1543
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 3: You're up twenty one to seven at the end of

1544
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 3: the first quarter, your quarterback is playing out of his

1545
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 3: mind and then you know, then you then you all

1546
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 3: of a sudden go sideways with your offense for a

1547
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: couple of quarters. It came to life in the fourth quarter.

1548
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 3: But you know, as much as we don't want to

1549
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 3: blame one guy, yeah, the kicker was given every opportunity,

1550
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 3: you know, and the kid just wasn't up for the moment. Unfashionate.

1551
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 4: That's the that's man.

1552
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: That's a fine line on all of it because it

1553
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: never comes down to one play, but it also sort

1554
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: of comes down to one play at I.

1555
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 3: Mean, this is the thing with coaches always say, especially

1556
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 3: at the college level, imagine your fate as a coach

1557
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 3: is put in the hands of an eighteen, nineteen twenty

1558
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 3: year old. I mean, I don't know what your mindset

1559
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 3: was at age twenty, Jason. I'm sure it was into

1560
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 3: your music whatever it might have been at the time,

1561
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 3: but I mean still, I mean, this is.

1562
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 2: Tough, tough, Yeah, I think that there's the hard part

1563
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 2: about this is certainly when I was nineteen or twenty, yes,

1564
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 2: I was definitely very focused on my ability to do

1565
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: what I needed to do for.

1566
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 4: My job, There's no doubt about that.

1567
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: But not every It's just not every nineteen year old

1568
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: kick can handle that moment, and the fact that it

1569
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 2: came down to that variable is absolutely suffocating for each

1570
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: member of that team. But also, man, that's just gonna

1571
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: be hard for, you know, for the entire team to

1572
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: just put behind them, especially on a day where Aguilar

1573
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: did have a massive I mean, Agilar was twenty four

1574
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: to thirty six, four touchdowns, but he also had a.

1575
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 4: Couple of picks.

1576
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 2: I think this team is going to look back at

1577
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: a couple of plays and say, how do we not

1578
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 2: do that? Including Max Gilbert. We'll get you caught up

1579
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: on all of the shocking and I do mean shocking

1580
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: results from college football over the course of the day.

1581
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: We'll get you caught up on him.

1582
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 4: Next.

1583
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 2: He's Steve Hartman. I'm Jason Fits. We're hanging out with

1584
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: you on Fox Sports Radio. It has been a stunning

1585
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: day in college football, from individual performances that are forgettable

1586
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 2: to a massive upset and now a meltdown, and we've

1587
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: covered all of it for you. He's Steve Hartman, I'm

1588
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: Jason Pitts. We're hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio.

1589
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,160
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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: the air. Steve, what's the most shocking team? I'm gonna

1597
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 2: give you the three options. The absolutely disgustingly bad performance

1598
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: of arch Manning, the Clemson loss to Georgia State that

1599
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: essentially eliminates him from playoff contention, or the Tennessee meltdown

1600
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: against Georgia blowing a twenty one seven lead, blowing an

1601
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: eight point lead late in the fourth quarter, and then

1602
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: blowing a game winning field goal only to lose in overtime.

1603
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: Which of those do you find the most shocking today? Oh?

1604
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: I say arch Manning Again. The thought was after the

1605
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 3: opening loss to Ohio State. He has this run of

1606
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 3: three straight creampuffs where we've seen these scores, right, seventy

1607
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,520
Speaker 3: three nothing, sixty six nothing. Teams are rolling up stats

1608
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 3: in these overmatched opponents, and he goes eleven of twenty

1609
01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 3: five for one hundred and fourteen yards passing against uteh

1610
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 3: at home. That is just stunning based on the hype.

1611
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,879
Speaker 3: By the way, I actually had this game on here, Jason,

1612
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 3: and I'll put it this way, there were more arch

1613
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 3: Manning commercials than completions in this game. So there were

1614
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 3: more arch Manning with his dad or you know, his uncles.

1615
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: It was just one arch Manning commercial after another, raking

1616
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: in millions and millions and millions of nil money. And

1617
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 3: then you watch the kid on the field and you're like,

1618
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 3: he ain't that, He's not even close to that. So

1619
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 3: that to me is absolutely unreal to me. I mean again,

1620
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 3: it's not like the kid at Michigan, where you know,

1621
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 3: he's a true freshman who literally just turned eight. Team

1622
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 3: you could understand some little inconsistencies from the kid. We're

1623
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 3: talking about arch Manning, who's been in this system, the

1624
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 3: Sark system.

1625
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 2: For three years. Three years.

1626
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 3: It's not like some new coach showed up. He's been

1627
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 3: in this system for three years. He's blessed with as

1628
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 3: good a running back core as there is in the nation.

1629
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 3: So it's not like teams could sit back, you know,

1630
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 3: and they have to take account for the run. So

1631
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 3: you have everything necessary to create some balance so you

1632
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 3: get opportunities. He is afraid to throw the ball down

1633
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 3: the field. He is, and that does not play in

1634
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: the NFL. If you're fearful going against utap of making

1635
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 3: a mistake, I got news for your arch ain't gonna

1636
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 3: work in the NFL. I don't know if another year

1637
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 3: is going to do it. Either you got it or

1638
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 3: you don't have it. And arch Man, he doesn't have it. Period.

1639
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 2: Important context to your point there is that so often

1640
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 2: we talk about coaches in college and what they're great

1641
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: at and what they're known for and how that plays

1642
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: into development. Arch is playing for a coach that is

1643
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: considered somebody that does a great job with offenses, right Like,

1644
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: I think that's a fair statement to me. And he

1645
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 2: has not bounced from team to team to team. If

1646
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 2: you told me that he had transferred from offense to

1647
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: offense to offense or he was dealing with this, you know,

1648
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: third coordinator in three years and he was struggling to

1649
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 2: get his mind wrapped around what the offense looked like.

1650
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 2: I can't understand that I could have some grace to that.

1651
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: I think I try to give some grace to the

1652
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: process of development for quarterbacks. But to look at this

1653
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 2: to your point, the fact is he's been sitting there

1654
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for his opportunity.

1655
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 2: And there were some people that said, oh, my god,

1656
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 2: why didn't he transfer? He should have gone somewhere else.

1657
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 2: And now we're looking at and saying, my god, even

1658
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: in this system, like I get his last name, and

1659
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: I get that, we're told that he has this tremendous

1660
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 2: level of athleticism, which is what we do like this,

1661
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: this is the telephone game, right, Steve, Like at some point,

1662
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 2: this is a telephone game. Most of us didn't watch

1663
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 2: Arch in high school. So what we rely on is

1664
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 2: what people tell us about Arch and high school. And

1665
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 2: then the fact that de manning conversation for the last

1666
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: several years has been well, he's way more athletic than

1667
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: you know either either of his uncles are. Right, So

1668
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 2: now we put all that together and say, well, he's

1669
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: a Manning. This is going to be absolutely spectacular. I

1670
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,520
Speaker 2: just I think we base that on a lot of conjecture.

1671
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 2: We just we based all of that on the if

1672
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: this then that, and that's just a dangerous way to

1673
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 2: decide to analyze the quarterback, Like, if we want to

1674
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 2: be fair to Arch, the only thing we can analyze

1675
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: is what we've seen from Arch this year. And if

1676
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: we're being fair to that, Arch Manning is not a

1677
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: very good college football quarterback. Like yeah, And that's the

1678
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 2: simple statement, Jason.

1679
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 3: The bottom line is, if you're going to be an

1680
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 3: elite quarterback at the NFL level, which is the ultimate goal,

1681
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 3: especially if you're going to draft a kid high, two

1682
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: things have to be in place. One is the ability

1683
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 3: to throw the ball accurately. Okay, that has to be there,

1684
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 3: and the other is decision making. Right now, he's got

1685
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 3: an f in both. Even last week with the fourteen

1686
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 3: he was what seventeen to thirty thirteen incomplete passes against

1687
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 3: San Jose State. So and by the way, this is

1688
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 3: an offense where Quinn Ewers, who was a seventh round

1689
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 3: pick in the NFL this year, over the last two years,

1690
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 3: combined sixty seven percent passing with fifty three touchdowns and

1691
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 3: eighteen picks. Dominant numbers for a guy that was a

1692
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 3: seventh round pick in the NFL. He's not even He's

1693
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 3: not even close to Quinn. Youwrs not even close. So

1694
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 3: I mean I I we saw Shador Sanders dropping the draft.

1695
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 3: Look out, I mean we can see Arch Manning fall

1696
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 3: all the way out of the draft the way he's

1697
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 3: playing right now.

1698
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Arch is going to be in this

1699
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: year and all next year because he needs that time.

1700
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 2: And then, by the way, to your point, like this

1701
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: has been a couple of soft weeks in a row,

1702
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 2: and a couple of soft weeks in a row, he

1703
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: didn't look good enough. They have Sam Houston next. We'll

1704
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: see if at some point this can normalize for Arch,

1705
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 2: but so far Arch just doesn't look as good as advertised.

1706
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