WEBVTT - Cryptids and Curses: Spooky Week #1 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:17.240 Oh God is dead. I'm Robert Evans, Welcome to the podcast. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.639 Were first episode of Spooky Week try to figure out 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:24.520 who murdered God and come to the conclusion that it 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.880 was almost certainly will Weep. I'm pointing my finger at 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:32.120 someone else. Actually, Robert, I'm fingering Bigfoot. And wow, you're 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.239 definitely okay. Now now, Daniel, Daniel, I'm gonna need you 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.080 to just cut that audioline out of the episode so 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.440 that everyone on the team can play it as a 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:47.080 drop whenever we need to. James admitting to fingering Bigfoot. Um, alright, 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.320 that's gonna be an episode everybody of a good week. 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:54.720 God bless you. This is it could happen here. This 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:59.480 is Spooky Week, right, we're recording our first spook crazed 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.040 b two God, Um, all right, what do we what 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.280 do we have for the ladies and not not the gentleman. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.039 This one's just for the ladies. I'm gonna say that 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:17.120 right now, says hers and slurs. It's it's yeah, we 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.679 where we got today? What we got today? Robert Garrison 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.360 is some stories about cryptids. So I want to start 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.600 in the autumn of Garrison was not alive and Robert. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.880 Now we're much younger, and I want to start in 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:34.400 northern California, where one night, three men set out to 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.199 execute a pretty routine We trade right, dropsyself, get some money, 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.840 come home. And it's not exactly a secret that at 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.320 that time and in that place there was a lot 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:49.240 of illegal girl operations and it's not exactly a secret. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.160 have you heard about this? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.920 I mean, like it's number one once you hit about 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.720 anywhere in like the coastal northern caliph Fornia from like 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:04.160 and a cruise on up. Uh, bigfoot is like a 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.840 topic not even not even really of discussion. But there's 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.959 just big foot ship all over the goddamn place. Um, 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.959 from ARCADEA to like Grants Pass is probably the biggest 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.000 density of bigfoot ship. But it's all throughout or again, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.239 all throughout Washington. You get a decent amount in Idaho, 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:23.919 I think too. Um, but yeah, people make a lot 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.720 of money of big foot. It's even a bigfoot highway 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.920 up there. But yeah, I was listening to a dogship 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.720 podcast recently. It's not very good. It's called wild Thing 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:38.280 and it's by some former NPR reporter the Squatches podcast. Right, Yeah, 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.280 she's doing like a Bigfoot thing. It's just not very good. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.000 Like there's bits in there where she'll like quote one 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.800 guy who's like, there's a lot, there's so much evidence 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.119 for Bigfoot. If you type big foot into Google, there's 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:54.560 like a eleven million results, and that an actual scientist 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.760 will be like, there's no evidence for Bigfoot, and she 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:02.400 just as like, what are we to think? What? Both sides? 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.680 Both sides? Yeah, yeah, I did not find it very edifying. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.280 I was listening to it while I was alone on 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.359 the mountain this weekend. There are two sides to a 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.640 Bigfoot story, Robert. It doesn't matter if one of them 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:17.160 is wrong. No, um, it's very fun. But yeah, because 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.360 I also, the parts of the West Coast that are 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.360 Bigfoot country are also the parts of the West Coast 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:28.200 that grow like more pot than anywhere else on planet Earth. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.840 which is interesting, isn't it, Because these two things may 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.800 or may not overlap. Yeah, I think they do. But 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:40.920 please continue. Yes, so Hulu made I will use to 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.760 loosely use the word documentary here. Yeah, loose is is 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.160 good for this, So I again to use a few 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.000 words loosely here. So, according to David Holt house journalist, 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.160 which is again a word I'm using maybe loosely. He 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:59.080 does a pretty good job in what he's fine hold house. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.560 So the interesting thing about him and what I do 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.480 kind of like about him, is he's like he worked 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.400 as a trimmer. Like so the pot industry. The there's 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.520 the people who moved the marijuana around the country, including 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.560 smuggle it into places where it's still fully illegal. There's 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.919 the people who sell it, either illegally or at dispensaries. Um. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.200 There's the people who grow it. And then the largest 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.680 by number chunk of the weed trade, or the trimmers. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.320 And those are the people every season, usually in the fall, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.599 come down for three or four months, northern California's southern 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:37.080 Oregon mostly and they take raw marijuana that's been like 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.200 bucked and cut off of the plant and they trim 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.240 it into the kind of buds that you buy. UM. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.520 And this guy was doing that back in the nineties, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.800 and he ran into these stories about a big foot 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.480 murdering two or three Mexican guys. Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah, 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.839 so I think he actually has a really good job 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.880 in this documentary. Yeah. I I actually didn't think it 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.120 was was bad. No, I was ready for it to 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.440 be bad, but I always quite impressed with So what 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.520 happened is, Yeah, like Crobert says said, they are these 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.520 probably migrant probably undocumented workers, right who come well, a 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.799 lot of them, there's a good chunk of them, probably, 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.840 I don't know by my estimates. Maybe are like mostly 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.560 white kids from various parts of the country. A lot 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:23.520 of them are folks who are either kind of seasonally unhoused. 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.000 Many of them like live in camp basically in places 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.120 like Arcada a big chunk of the year and then 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.920 we'll live on farms while they trim. Um. There are 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.200 a decent chunk who are undocumented. A lot are mong um, 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.920 Like a lot of are like first, like particularly older 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:42.520 among people who like came here after Vietnam and started 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.960 businesses and then like their kids and grandkids got into 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.440 the pot trade. And we're like, well, my you know, 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.640 grandma and my aunts retired, and they like they living 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.240 in the woods and are good at trimming, Like we 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.719 can make a bunch of extra money this way. Um, 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.560 it's all sorts up there. Yeah, it's kind of fascinating. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.000 So these guys set out to do this deal, right 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.400 that they're three of the people who fall into the 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:08.760 undocumented labor category, and they never come back, and a 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.560 whole house is sitting in one of these farmhouses or 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.920 in a trailer or something, when when gouvern guys come 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.800 in and say, hey, those those dudes never came back 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.920 and they've been killed, right, they seem to have been 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.600 sort of pretty brutally murdered, but the we that they 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.120 were carrying was still there, so it wasn't like somebody 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.960 shook them down and stole the weed. Right. And yeah, you, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.800 by the way, if it was a weed industry thing, 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:37.320 you probably wouldn't because everyone's got a lot of fucking weed. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.000 I mean, people do steal weed, but if you're out 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.560 there doing a murder, it's probably because somebody's fucking with 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.479 your business in a bigger way than whatever they happen 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.760 to have on the fucking farm. Like, I wouldn't be 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.599 surprised if a pot murder would not result in whatever 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.880 ship they had in their trailer actually getting jacked. Okay, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.600 right then, yeah, because the weeds the thing that everyone has, 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.839 so at the time, their deaths are largely, if not entirely, 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:05.440 factually attributed to bigfoot, right, it's put out there that 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.680 these people were murdered by Bigfoot. Now they are not 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.400 the only people whose deaths have been blamed on bigfoot. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:16.880 Earlier this year, duly Seminole County Sheriff's Office reported the 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.720 murder of Mr Jimmy Knighton and the press release they said, 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.680 Larry Sanders has reported killing Mr Jimmy Knighton by the 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.520 South Canadian River. Sanders and Knighton had been noodling in 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:32.400 the river on July. Okay, now, yeah, so give it 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.000 to me, Robert, you're you're you're from this part of 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.160 the world. It's when you stroke a catfish you don't 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.040 stroke well, yes, basically, it's when you use kind of 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.440 your fingers as bait and you catch a catfish by 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:48.040 the mouth. Right, we call it what a country? Yes, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.280 I mean James C. Robert to the kids these days, 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.400 catch a catch a catch a catfish by the north 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.840 being something very different. So does noodling, Yeah, or as 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:05.440 the Mormons call it, soaking. Sure, there's a great story. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.880 This is off topic, but there was just an outbreak 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:14.280 in South Lake City of armpit crabs because so many 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:19.920 Mormon kids are having having armpit sex and protection it's awesome. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:25.200 It's so funny. Really, it's not. That's just wow, we're 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.720 still doing this. We're still doing this, Gere. We're gonna 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.200 be doing this the rest of your natural life. Yeah, 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.800 never getting past this ship. This is what the future 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:39.800 halls feed decades of arm fucking. So, uh, sand Is 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.840 a knighting with They were old school noodling. They weren't online, 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.120 of course. Yeah, that's that's the best kind of noodling 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.280 in my opinion. That's what I've heard. So they're at 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:52.680 they're at. At some point, Mr sand Is becomes convinced 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:57.480 that Knighton has summoned Bigfoot to kill him. Now, that's interesting. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.600 You don't hear that a lot. You don't because I 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.959 didn't Bigfoot was summonable. That wasn't on the table of 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.520 things that I thought one could do to a Bigfoot. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.000 I mean, I've always thought Bigfoot was summonable, but not 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.480 for murder. For sex, sure, Okay, yeah, that's why his 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.200 armpits are so crabby. Well, that's what everyone says about Bigfoot, 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.679 so you can identify him in a crowd. So at 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.080 some point Sounders becomes convinced that Bigfoot is on his 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.400 way and he's going to kill him, and so he 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:31.600 unfortunately strangles his noodling partner to death. Well that's tragic, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.880 and then noodling partly tragic. Well, guess gonna leave it. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:41.560 We're it's gonna leave it. We're just gonna move straight on. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.280 So yeah, it does sound rather tragic. It does sound 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:49.400 rather sad. But he seems to have reported pretty openly 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.120 that he believed that Bigfoot was on its way and 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.839 if he didn't stop this ritual, that Bigfoot will kill him. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.720 And a lot of as it turns out, things that 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:02.760 people can't really expla rain. Often the times when people 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.280 are in human to other humans tend to be explained 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.439 as the actions of monsters. Right, And I want I 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:14.320 want to quote from the documentarian, the director Joshua Rope, 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:18.640 who made that film. He says, the thing that people 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.800 should be afraid of is not the boogeyman in the woods. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.920 It's our next door neighbors who will usually commit acts 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.520 of violence that will then terrify, you know, everybody on 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.680 the block or in the neighborhood. Said that working in 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.679 northern California was very scary. We did enter a sort 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.479 of underworld. You know, for lack of a better term, 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.560 and you know, we were really mindful to try and 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:42.079 not overstay our welcome there. So I want to get 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.199 into cryptichs a little bit, and I want to get 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.319 into some some of the more famous ones as well 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.920 as a curse. I've got a curse here. Yeah. The 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.680 curse is great because it's invented by the California Park Service. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.240 But I want to explain kind of the social functions 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.760 that they sometimes serve as well as just having some 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.280 fun talking about cryptids. So the one that I thought 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.800 might serve a social function, and probably the most famous 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:10.839 cryptid aside from Bigfoot, is our friend the chupacabra, right 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:15.600 and yeah yeah In English, that translate to goat soccer, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:22.000 which is okay, yeah, yeah, we're staying we're staying on 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.040 this bit. I see, yeah, yeah, we're on themes. Not 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:31.000 a bit garrison. Its culture, yeah, corporate, not a costume. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.440 I'll say this. I'm reading a great book right now 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.280 about the goat soccer. No it's it's called The Last 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.120 Emperor of Mexico, and it's about that Habsburg who tried 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.959 to become the Yeah yeah, and they hung his assid 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:48.600 in like three weeks. It's very funny. Um yeah, good stuff. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.160 Huge respect to the people of Mexico. So actually that 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.600 chupacabra doesn't come from Mexico, comes from Puerto Rico. But 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.480 oh I didn't know that. Actually, yeah, we get a 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.720 little bit about the chubercabra. The perhaps the best source 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.360 for this, as far as I can find, is this 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.920 guy Benjamin Redford, who has written a book about the 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.360 tuber carbre and he shows that nearly all of the 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:18.440 eyewitness accounts can be traced back to this one, the 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:22.040 first account, which was this woman called Madeline Tolentino in 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.599 the ninety nineties in uh in Puerto rican Right. So 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:28.920 it's also much more recent than I thought. Like, the 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.360 tuber Cabra is twenty seven years old. It is said 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.400 it's younger than me, which is quite remarkable given how 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:39.120 much cultural impact has had. Yeah, I thought I thought 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.240 it was much older. Yeah, be too. I thought it 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.040 was this like an old tiny border legend, and you're 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:48.160 a forty nine James, that's correct. Yeah, yeah, okay, just 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.600 making it No, Yeah, I'm just I'm just kicking here 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.720 for a couple more years before I can claim that sweet. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.600 I heeart media Hitchen, get that air p go to 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.240 the be able to go to the fucking the Sizzler 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.719 and get five percent off. That's it, man. I'm got 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.640 to be issued in my nineteen eleven, which you get 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.040 when you're sixty years old. You get a you get 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.720 a nineteen eleven and you get a Loui's Gift card 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.480 and you get to evoke the Second World War whenever 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.440 anyone is rude to you, even if you weren't in it, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.000 and you're you're allowed to drive your car into a 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.680 farmer's market in the state of California up to twice. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.520 You have to try. After that, you have to move 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:26.080 to Oregon. M that's right. So yeah, I'm until my retirement. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:27.520 They I want to talk a little bit about this 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:33.240 is tuper copter. So uh, they're fascinating because like with Bigfoot, 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.480 right there are, as you have mentioned, eleven million Google results, 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.640 but no actual bigfoots right now, no one's ever found 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.080 a big foot. No one can present to biggs feet 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.920 a big big feet? Is that? Yeah? It takes an eye, right, 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.920 So it's it's from the Italian big feet. That's ready. 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:54.960 That's right. Yeah, Okay, so there are a big feete. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.439 But there are tuper carputers um. And the reason there 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:04.840 are tuperbras is that what people a chapter right, the 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.120 name goat sucker. And this this will shock you, Garrison, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.480 especially that the way that they are sucking goats is 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:14.240 perhaps not the way you would expect. Interesting. Yeah, they're 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.480 very innovative in this regard. What is happening is people 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.040 are finding their goats, their chickens, their live stock, with 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.040 their throat ripped out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so it 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.840 is the way you would most animals need throats, right, 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.479 it's one of the parts that yeah, they're not interchangeable, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.200 they're not. Yeah, they're really it's good to know. This 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:35.360 is all really important information. Yeah, so throat free goats, cattle, 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.080 cheap chickens tend not to survive very long. So a 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:39.360 lot of a lot of times people come out in 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:45.720 the morning find their animals throatless and dead. Yeah, you could. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.520 You could call it a deep throating. That's where they 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.960 get it right deep in the throat. So they these 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:57.000 animals are dead, and the people claim that they're drained 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.560 of blood, which isn't quite true. But of course there's 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:04.120 there's only there's only two possible explanations, one obviously being 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:09.480 vampires um, the other being this being this cript creature. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.400 Well only possible things that could be that Subercabra is 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.800 a vampire. It's okay, okay, okay, so yeah, that's where 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.320 the ven diagram overlaps. It's this kind of it's it's 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.600 got goat like legs actually, but then it's bipedal. It 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.880 has kind of a human torso and a sort of 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.160 lizard meets wolf face. It's okay, so we're we're virgin 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:33.920 and like Jersey devil vampire terror. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.400 but it prefers warmer climate. It doesn't like Jersey and frankly, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.240 I mean me neither. So ye who doesn't think? Yeah, look, 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.400 I don't go east to New Mexico, and I don't 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.160 think anyone else should either. No, it doesn't. It doesn't 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.480 care for Bruce Springsteen, and it doesn't want to live 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.880 in New Jersey, so it stays out west. But it's 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:56.360 been reported all over the world. Actually. Now, the couple 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.360 of interesting things about these supercabra is one is that 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.520 people have found them, especially in Texas. Right, are you 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:07.400 familiar Robert with Texas blue dogs? No? Okay, I'll go 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.760 tell Robert something about Texas. So this lady, I don't 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:12.880 have her name right down here, she was a Texas nutritionist. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.800 And but we do by the way, I will say, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.000 when it comes to like cryptids people taught me about 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.760 in Texas, it was the chopercabra. Oh well yeah, we we. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.520 I mean we're basically Mexico like yeah, yeah, not Ted Cruz, 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:29.200 who is the other famous Texas cripted Yeah, but unlike 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.640 Ted Cruz, this this tuper cabra had actually been to 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.520 a farm and it had been ripping out the throats 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.880 of these animals, right, And this lady had a problem 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.120 with with the animal's throats being ripped out. And then 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.200 one day she finds a corps of which she presumes 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.920 to be a chuper cabra. It is hairless, it looks 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.360 kind of like a dog, but it has pronounced glands 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.280 on its bumps, on its back, I guess, and it 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.840 has thick blue skin. Sorry, what why would you do, 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.280 Robert if you, if you were living in Texas you 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.920 come across a dead chuper cabra, I mean, fry it 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:05.199 up a little, you know. I hadn't even even some 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.040 green chili throw that ship on there and just kind 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:11.040 of friar. I haven't even makes sense that one didn't 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.600 even hit me, but yeah, having yeah, I know, there 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.640 was a couple of taco spots we went to in Texas, 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.920 which that might have been what was going on. Yeah, 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.440 you just get whatever can of me done man or 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.360 meets meat. Yep, so that's not what the study did. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.000 She was a nutrition it is, perhaps so she was 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.960 a little little worried about nutritional content. She had it 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.760 stuffed and it's in her living room today. Okay, okay, 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.159 it's just like a coyote, like what like what what 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.159 is it? Well, that's an interesting question, isn't it. Garrison 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.440 is an interesting questions? Yes, what the what the blue 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.280 dog seems to be. It's some kind of hybrid of 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.680 a Mexican wolf and a coyote that has some kind 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:51.119 of mange which has made all its fall off. Nearly 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.800 all of the chupa cabras are are some sort of 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.119 canine with mange, because mange makes it look like a 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:01.800 fucking monster. Yeah, so like if you saw a giant 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:06.760 sphinx cat, you would also think that's the criptace. Yes, yeah, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.320 and especially if they've been ripping the throats. Are you animals? Right? 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:13.879 Because these poor coyotes and feral dogs and search is 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.560 so weakened by the main so they can't prey on 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.680 wild animals, and so they tend to come. Okay, right, 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.600 it's pretty easy to catch chickens. You can get into 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.480 the coop, right, because they've got nowhere to go or 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:30.280 to catch goats. And so unfortunately, what's happening is that 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:34.520 these dogs, these various canids are getting mange and they 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.040 are unfortunately too weak to hunt, and so they're killing 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.480 things like captive goats and chickens. And that is where 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:44.400 the tupercarbra miss comes from. Going back to the bipedal 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.600 tupercarbra though, it's very interesting. That sounds a little bit 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.560 more fun. Yeah. So, in the year before the tuper 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.760 Carbra was seen, there was a film made in Puerto 0:18:53.880 --> 0:19:00.439 Rico and it was called Species Oh man, Yeah, okay, okay. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.600 So unfortunately, the the original eyewitness reports which began the 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.880 year after that film was released, Yeah, this I've heard, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:12.200 they all perfectly described the creature. It's got the spines 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.280 on its back. Radford. Radford is a person doing right 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:19.600 in the book Radford said, the resemblance between the creature, 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:21.960 which is called Sill in the film, and the tuper 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:26.440 cabra is really impressive. So yeah, the the old quadrupedal 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.119 tuper cabra, it's a dog with Maine. The bipedal tuper 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:35.800 cabra seems to be exclusively explained by this this movie 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:41.040 and people's feelings about United States colonialism in Puerto Rico, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:45.040 specifically the number of defense facilities and labs in the 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.800 un k Rainforest, and their feelings that maybe something like 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.560 this ship could come out of one of these US labs, 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.520 because if the US was developing a terrible creature that 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.879 sucked the blood of people, it would absolutely do it 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.760 in one of its colonial properties. Right, Yes, that entirely 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.479 makes sense. So there's there's in a sense, to chupa carbra, 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:07.800 according to Radford's theory, gives a physical manifestation of this 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:11.680 feeling of disgust with the the United States. And I 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:13.920 got a couple of other cryptids. I was going to 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:18.159 talk very briefly about the Beast of Procter Valley, and 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.399 then I want to talk about the Curse of Body, 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.480 which is a curse, not a cryptid, but First, Robert, 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.840 do you know which what will not ambush your lifetock 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:29.159 and rip its throat out? Um? I mean like a 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.159 like a good sheep dog wouldn't do that. That's right, 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.240 and that's why this episode is presented by border colleagues. Wow, 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.760 finally we finally got the big deal with the border collie. Yeah, 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:45.600 that's as real complex. That's good. Yep. Just use promo code, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.199 Robert Evans when you're buying your border collie attempt and off. 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.040 Just walk up to a border collie and shout my 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:55.280 name in its face. Try to grab its food away 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.080 from it rapidly too. That's a good way to get 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:01.560 their attention and see what happens. Ye used to be herded. Yeah, 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:13.080 so see if it likes that. All right, we're back. 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.080 I hope you've all got your border collies because this 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.320 this next, this next crypted is it's a little local one. Okay, 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.600 So they're a crypted a bit like the Trouper carbro 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:24.359 all across the country. But the one that we have 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:27.320 closest to San Diego is called the Proctor Valley Beast. 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.359 And now to understand the Proctor Valley Beast, I think 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.800 you've got to understand Proctor Valley. Proctor Valley is exactly 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:35.720 the sort of dirt road that you go down when 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.040 you're sixteen years old when you want to go somewhere 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.960 with your date, pound a few beers and get away 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:44.320 from your parents. Right, these kind of exist all over 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.199 the country, all over the world probably, and there a 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.480 little closer. They're close enough to know about, but far 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:55.440 enough away to seem weird and distant. Right, And Proctor 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.160 Valley is a gravel road and you can drive down 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.760 at a regular carb. It's pretty washboarded. There's no lights, 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.800 there's no street lights, nothing like that. Right, these days, 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.480 your greatest danger when you're driving, riding a bike, or 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:09.760 walking or driving down Prompt Valdy Road is the Border 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:14.320 Patrol absolutely hauling ass in one of their Ford Raptors, 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:17.400 which they seem to have obtained. And I will never 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.840 understand their love for the Ford Raptor. Yeah it is. 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.000 I don't know how much those costs, but it is 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.560 an obscene amount of money to spend on a pickup truck. Well, 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:27.760 it's also like, look, if I'm going to be out 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.120 in the in the middle of nowhere and trusting an 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.639 off roading vehicle, my first pick is not going to 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:34.600 be the Ford goddamn rap. Well you've got to buy 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.080 American robot. Yeah. But the Border Patrol, of course they're 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:40.879 driving for it's unbelievable. Yeah. Well they always have a 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.760 predator drowne hanging out. It can come rescue him. Yeah. Yeah, 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:48.480 the Border Patrol and steroid abusers in my old neighborhood 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:52.560 in West l A. Shaking hands over the Ford Raptors. Yea, 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.680 Ford Raptors with illegal things. Yeah, Ford Raptors. The car 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.679 you can only drive if you have adult onset acne 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.800 caused as a result of actually hormones into your fucking 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.919