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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here with another recap.

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Speaker 1: We're getting down to the wire. It moves pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: I know it always does. It's always shocking once we

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Speaker 2: get to hometowns. But I feel like this is the

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Speaker 2: last kind of like fun episode. Not that the next

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Speaker 2: part isn't fun, but things tend to take a more

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Speaker 2: serious turn going into hometown Yeah, because.

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Speaker 3: Now these are the women that he actually has feelings for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has serious connections with all the women now

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Speaker 2: versus like you know, three weeks ago. There's definitely still

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Speaker 2: a range of his connections.

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Speaker 1: The good thing is we have Joey coming on the

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Speaker 1: podcast this week, So make sure you said that episode

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Speaker 1: because we were going to ask him all the questions

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Speaker 1: and how he's feeling before going into the towel all

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Speaker 1: and hometowns and everything.

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Speaker 2: Last time we interviewed him was at Charity's Far he

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Speaker 2: got announced as the bachelor.

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Speaker 3: He's a changed man.

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Speaker 2: He's got even started filming. When we interviewed him, No, he.

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Speaker 3: I mean he he was pretty.

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Speaker 1: He seemed pretty self aware and going into the sea,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm curious to see how he seemed very relaxed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm curious to see how he feels now.

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Speaker 2: I'm probably less relaxed. I wish i'd actually gone back

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Speaker 2: and listened to our interview with him, our last interview

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Speaker 2: with him, to compare to where we are now. I

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Speaker 2: know that's okay, but this episode Jasper Alberta.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever been there?

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Speaker 2: I haven't. I actually looked it up. It's like a

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Speaker 2: five and a half hour drive from Bamp, Alberta, which

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Speaker 2: I really want to go to.

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Speaker 3: We would have to fly there from Toronto.

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Speaker 2: Correct, definitely. I mean you could drive, but we wouldn't drive.

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Speaker 2: It would be far. But it's so beautiful. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's giving like quintessential Canada. It's like all the trees

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Speaker 2: and the water, the cabins, it's just like very beautiful

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Speaker 2: and they're super submerged in nature.

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Speaker 3: We should go, We should.

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Speaker 2: I really want to go to Bamp. Honestly, it's like

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Speaker 2: it's on my list.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised you you've never been. We've been to the

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Speaker 1: one in Whistler.

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Speaker 2: We've been to the one. No, we were, we stayed

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Speaker 2: at the Four Seasons in Whistler. But it's not uncommon

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Speaker 2: for like Canadian kids after they like graduate university to

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Speaker 2: go like work at one of them because they're like

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Speaker 2: popular year round. You can work as a server. There's

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Speaker 2: like a bunch of different jobs. Like I know people

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Speaker 2: who like graduated from school and like went and like

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Speaker 2: worked at one of them for like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: two years.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say that before we get into it.

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Speaker 3: The four seasons in Whistler, it was like one of

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Speaker 3: my favorite hotels.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful, really, it's so sunny. There's so much of Canadacy.

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Speaker 2: Guys venture out there. Check it out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Date Card.

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Speaker 2: Not shocked at all. This I think is the first

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Speaker 2: time ever. I mean, I'm sure it's happened before. I

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Speaker 2: just can't remember the last time it happened where all

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Speaker 2: six girls left have already had a one on one

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Speaker 2: date the week before going into hometown, so no matter

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Speaker 2: who gets the one on one, it's their second one

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Speaker 2: on one. Like my season there this week there was

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Speaker 2: two girls who hadn't got one on ones yet, because

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Speaker 2: you usually expected to go to the two people that

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Speaker 2: haven't had one on ones, and I find usually like

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Speaker 2: one gets it. One dozen kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like, if if you haven't had

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Speaker 1: a one on one at this point and then you

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Speaker 1: don't get it, you're definitely going home.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's game over for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You see Jen's upset. She seems a little shocked that

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Speaker 1: Daisy got in cheap did it in?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think Daisy was the most obvious choice because she

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Speaker 2: was the very first one on one of the season,

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Speaker 2: so she has gone the longest without a one on one.

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Speaker 1: I agree, but but but Jen was not obvious to them.

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Speaker 1: You know. It seems like Jen like mix out with

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Speaker 1: him a lot, Yeah, and has like some like nice

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think that Jen's attitude in this episode. At first,

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Speaker 2: going into this week, I was like, I literally don't

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Speaker 2: I feel like he has really good anections with every

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Speaker 2: single one of these women. We've seen the relationships progress

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Speaker 2: like it could be any Jen was definitely in a

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Speaker 2: might have been like pulling back a little bit because then, like,

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Speaker 2: compared to like a Rachel Rachel's so confident, yeah, and comfortable,

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Speaker 2: and she didn't seem very nervous.

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Speaker 1: Well, and we see Jen's like last effort to like

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Speaker 3: The group date. We'll go to that later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this episode, what do you think about the jacuzzie

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Speaker 1: kind of stand there, Daisy and Joey and the dacouzie.

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Speaker 3: They seem to like each other. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did the horseback riding date, which was super cute.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Daisy has had some really good dates.

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Speaker 2: She had, like the country concept.

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Speaker 3: You just like crazy because I skipped a horse fan.

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Speaker 2: Well, you just you'll do crazy, like I'm like, they drove.

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Speaker 2: I have things to say about the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think about the horseback riding? That's fine, No, no, no, please.

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Speaker 2: I don't have much to say about it. I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to acknowledge that happened. I thought it was cute,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like it was a really like scenic,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like this. I like the horseback riding.

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Speaker 2: I had the horseback riding date and I was obsessed

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Speaker 2: with it. I was like, this day is sick, Like

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Speaker 2: it's so pretty. You guys are just talking. It's chill. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: great day activity.

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Speaker 1: Can we go now, Jacuzzi, we can go to jaw

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Speaker 1: Any any thoughts in the Jacuzie seemed they really they

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Speaker 1: seem to really be into each other. Like I'm watching

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Speaker 1: this thinking like Joey's not Joey's going to.

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Speaker 3: Give her a rose after this date one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred one hundred percent. I mean, they have a really

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Speaker 2: I said this at the beginning, and I still feel

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Speaker 2: was never really doubting if she was going to go

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Speaker 2: to hometowns or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, cut to Kelsey gets a one on one.

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Speaker 1: Date's not over, but that's what happened in the episode.

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Speaker 1: In the episode they cut two in the house, Kelsey

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Speaker 1: gets a one on one, and then we go back.

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Speaker 2: That's not what happened. Cut to the group date card.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, if you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Go out of order, please do it right, do it right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so what happened?

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Speaker 2: They cut to the group day card. We learned kelsey

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Speaker 2: A gets the one on one yes, Jen, and the

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Speaker 2: rest of girls do not. Jen has like a little moment.

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Speaker 2: She's definitely struggling. She thought it was gonna be her.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought it was going to be her too.

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Speaker 3: Oh I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I just really thought it was it was between Jen

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Speaker 2: really think Jen's going home this week, but understand why

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Speaker 2: I was in her shoes too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you're you're you're so close, but still.

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Speaker 2: You're just like yeah, you're like, you know, one day

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Speaker 2: one one on one could do a lot.

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Speaker 3: Also, like a few weeks ago, there were so many

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Speaker 3: more women there, and Jen's connection was one of the strongest.

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Speaker 2: It was clearly one of the strongest.

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Speaker 1: One of the strongest, and now she's probably looking like

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Speaker 1: I no longer feel that way totally.

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Speaker 2: And she had the second week one on one I think,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we go to the night portion of Daisy's date,

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Speaker 1: and this is when things get a little interesting because

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Speaker 1: up and says, I'm I don't think I'm there yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, she does interesting, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, She basically says, I like you will, and I

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Speaker 2: Like I haven't fallen in love with you. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I respect it because right now, like most women won't

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Speaker 1: And if you say that, there's a good chance.

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Speaker 3: That he cuts you.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, But I mean, like she's like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to just tell him I'm falling for him

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Speaker 2: I'll lead him into this hometown date, like with false words. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it was an interesting conversation because I feel like

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Speaker 2: And I feel like the way they went into it,

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Speaker 2: Like it was a blunt conversation of like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Like I don't feel that way.

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Speaker 1: Daisy is the type of person that is going to

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Speaker 1: have a very tough time in this environment really falling

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Speaker 2: Yeah I knew.

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Speaker 3: I knew that because you said it.

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Speaker 2: Why I don't know, I think, I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: just really speculating, But she is someone that's been through

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Speaker 2: a lot in life, and I would imagine like not

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Speaker 2: having to live life together in like a normal environment

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Speaker 2: Think about it this way. I thought about this before

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: With you, you would have said that.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what I did. I just I feel

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Speaker 2: It's a good question. I actually don't know how it

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Speaker 2: sure he did, you know what I mean, Like he's coming,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if I was in his shoes and

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is the Maria Show. She talks to Joey.

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Speaker 3: I get that it's different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still getting to know you, you're getting to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you could tell she starts spiraling and then

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Speaker 2: Do you think any part of her, like even if

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Speaker 2: Second, yeah, like I'm not one of six anymore.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, I think she I think she went I

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Speaker 2: She was being like you need to put off this show.

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Speaker 2: And then she took a minute and then was kind

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Speaker 1: I try to put myself in these situations, and I

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Speaker 2: I'd be like I could totally see you doing Oh I.

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Speaker 1: Would, I'd be like, get rid of these other guys

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Speaker 1: I definitely yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And especially because she just came off a one

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Speaker 2: Well he doesn't give out the group date row.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Joey doesn't give out the group date rolls, which.

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Speaker 2: think he was going to give it out.

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Speaker 1: I seem like all the girls were surprised, which I

442
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Speaker 1: think was a good move. Leaves a little suspense at

443
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Speaker 1: the end of the show. I mean, if he gave

444
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: it out, there'll only be one one.

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00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like at this point, Daisy and Kelsey,

446
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: it looks like are his strongest two connections. So leaving

447
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: the four of them, I was like, it could be

448
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 2: any of these four, Like two out of the four,

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00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: I could any of them going to hometowns next week.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, left like it's for the cocktail party in

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Speaker 2: the row ceremony.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now let's go to the biggest bullshit I've

453
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: ever seen on this show, which.

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Speaker 2: You got a problem with. This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'll let them just go hang out at a bar

456
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 1: like I would love to have done that. We had

457
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Speaker 1: to wrestle, We had to put on costumes and wrestle

458
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Speaker 1: in a ring.

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Speaker 3: These two are.

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Speaker 2: Hey, just locked around. They got some hot cocoa. They

461
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 2: went to a bar. They're literally playing pool with randoms

462
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: and drinking beer. I was like, this is not about like,

463
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 2: this is just like it was like they were like

464
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: you and Kelsey can just like do whatever you want today,

465
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: and he was like sick. I was like, this is

466
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Speaker 2: the best day ever. They look like so cute together,

467
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: unbelievably cute. But I will say the Polar Bear plunge

468
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: part was definitely that was so fun too.

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Speaker 3: This was the best date ever.

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Speaker 2: Literally, this is like our dream, Like this is like

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Speaker 2: how we spend our days on a usual Saturday. Yeah,

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00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: this is our Saturday. You're literally watching what Joe and

473
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: I do on a Saturday. It's very obvious that Kelsey

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00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: does cold plunges I feel like, and Joey does not

475
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: because she's like, yeah, like this is what it looks

476
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 2: like when Joe and I do a cold plunge, Like

477
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Speaker 2: Joe is Kelsey and I am Joe Like.

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Speaker 1: You should if you would saw me yesterday. The one I

479
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 1: went in was thirty three degrees. It was really cold,

480
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: like I only stayed in for two minutes, which.

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Speaker 2: Is not Yeah, thirty three degrees is insanity. I'm not

482
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: even dipping a toe in that water. But like them

483
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: running in, like the adrenaline hides so fun you can

484
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: see Joey's instantly ready to run out. Kelsey's like I'm

485
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: doing my breathing. She's like holding his hands like you

486
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: do with me when I'm trying to like goes like

487
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 2: this is so funny.

488
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 3: And then they what do they do?

489
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Speaker 2: They just had dinner talks about her mom, which naturally

490
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: then I start crying. Like when that girl cries, I cry.

491
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but talks about her dad,

492
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: how much he means to her, how he stepped up

493
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 2: with all of the kids when her mom passed, and

494
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: just kind of talks about how excited she is for

495
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: Joy to meet him and her family, And honestly, they

496
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: have the strongest connection in my opinion at this point,

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00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: Like after this date, if it's not her and him

498
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: at the end, I'll be really surprised. Like, I just

499
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: really think they have an amazing connection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it makes sense she got the last date,

501
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: the last one on one before hometowns, Like it all.

502
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: Checks out totally, and they just had a normal Saturday date,

503
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: Like they didn't even have to do anything. They just

504
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: let them hang out of the bar. I just feel

505
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: like they have really amazing conversation. They seem like they

506
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Speaker 2: have a lot of fun together, and I feel like

507
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: the like sexual romantic chemistry is also there.

508
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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more.

509
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: And she's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: She gets a hometown rose. So now we cut to

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Speaker 1: Jesse Palmer walks in cancels the cocktail party. Yeah, everyone's upset,

512
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: but kind of figure that was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: I figured they were going to cancel the cocktail party.

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00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: But when he pulled Maria if I was there, like

515
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: Rachel was like I thought we weren't getting time with

516
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 2: him tonight. What the fuck? I would have been so mad.

517
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: It's not even funny. I would have to I know,

518
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: I know you did tell me that, but like does

519
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: it matter, Like in my head when I was on

520
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: the show, like everything, I deserved everything anymore. I would

521
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: have been so pissed off. They don't really need that time. Okay,

522
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: there's four of us here, and you could have spent

523
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: thirty minutes extra giving each of us time to chat.

524
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Speaker 2: It's like his decision has been made, like his mind's

525
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: made up. We all want to go to bed. Nothing

526
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: you can say or do is gonna change his mind.

527
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,239
Speaker 2: Then it's like okay, like I get it, whatever, but

528
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: like his mind's not made up and he just wants

529
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: to talk to Maria. I would be like, so if

530
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: she's getting the chance to change her mind in this moment,

531
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: you can't give me like five ten minutes. And also

532
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: like if I'm Rachel, I'm like, I'm not going into

533
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: hometowns like I would have love to chat with you,

534
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: Like this is a two way street, Like I know

535
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: you have full control over when we have time together.

536
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: How much time we have together, but like, at least

537
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: humor me and like make me feel like I got

538
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: a little power in this situation.

539
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize you felt so passionately about this.

540
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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm triggered this happened to me on my season.

541
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Speaker 3: I will I will say, I think his.

542
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 2: Mine was made and why are you talking to Maria?

543
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: Because his mind was made up on Maria And I

544
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: just think there was a chance that Maria can't fully

545
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: commit in this in this environment, and he needed to

546
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: make sure before taking her. But I think as May

547
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: was set up on Rachel.

548
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: And no, I think I was. I think Rachel was

549
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Speaker 2: one going home.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there was a need to talk to

551
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: the other Kelsey Jen. Yeah, and he needed to talk

552
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: to Maria, and I guess.

553
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: If she was like I don't know if I could

554
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: do this, she might have gone home and then Kelsey

555
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: and general, I.

556
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: Think he would have still sent Kelsey in Gen home,

557
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: And I think he would have in the whole times

558
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: with three. That's why he needed that that extra time,

559
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: and he just didn't need it with everyone else because

560
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: his mind was already made up. Yeah, No, you're right,

561
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: I get it from like the woman's standpoint, because they're

562
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, maybe I could change his mind,

563
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: like because you you don't know, but like I feel

564
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: like his mind was already.

565
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what The final rose goes to Maria.

566
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: So Maria, Rachel, Kelsey A, and Daisy are Joey's final

567
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: four women.

568
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: And we'll see, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everyone, thank you make sure to tune in later

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Speaker 1: this week because we will be having Joey the Bachelor,

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Speaker 1: And thank you again for listening.

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Speaker 2: And don't forget to subscribe. Bye,