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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Ninety one days. That's what

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Speaker 1: they were saying, at least Clay on morning Joe, as

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Speaker 1: I was drinking my Crocket coffee because I do have

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Speaker 1: my Crocket here this morning, they were telling me that,

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Speaker 1: and they were doing everything they could to puff up

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Speaker 1: the sense of historic conquest that they are telling the

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Speaker 1: Democrats they're going to have here with this victory insight

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, Tim Walls not to be confused with Waltz.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to our Minnesota listeners. We realize Walls and

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Speaker 1: we're living in an alternate universe now, but that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that we could ignore the people who have created

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Speaker 1: this alternate universe. We have to defeat the madness. We'll

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Speaker 1: break this down. I think that the overwhelming sense on

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Speaker 1: the conservative side of things right now is what we

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Speaker 1: were saying yesterday. I mean, I really, Clay, you know

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Speaker 1: all morning it's prepped for our show, and then sometimes

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Speaker 1: I can see what some of the sentiments are from

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Speaker 1: some of our friends and colleagues on the right afterwards,

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Speaker 1: and I did not see a single person still who

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Speaker 1: thinks that This is a smart pick, but I want

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Speaker 1: to break it down. I want us today to get

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Speaker 1: into the policy differences, the record and make sure that

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Speaker 1: we all have clarity on exactly who, not just Tim

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Speaker 1: Walls is, but also what this Kamala Harris Walls ticket

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Speaker 1: is really all about. I mean, this is the most

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Speaker 1: left wing and it is not an exaggeration. It is

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Speaker 1: not some you know, talk radio talking point. It is

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Speaker 1: the truth that this is the most left wing Democrat

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Speaker 1: ticket certainly in our lifetime. And I think you'd have

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Speaker 1: to go back to what Eugene Debs running as a

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Speaker 1: straight up socialist maybe, and even back then the socialists

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Speaker 1: were a little bit less crazy than the than the

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Speaker 1: left wing Democrats are now. But here we go. Let's

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Speaker 1: give you some examples of what we're talking about here

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Speaker 1: with Walls, they are presenting him Clay as a cuddly

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Speaker 1: coach and veteran who wears you know, lumberjack shirts and

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Speaker 1: goes hunting, and he's a different kind of Democrat, And

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Speaker 1: we're here to just remind every it's all afront, all

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Speaker 1: a facade, what he looks like, how he dresses, if

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Speaker 1: he chooses to go hunting on the weekends, or not

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Speaker 1: does not matter. What matters is what does this guy

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Speaker 1: stand for? What does he do with the power that

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Speaker 1: he has been given by the people of Minnesota in

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Speaker 1: previous elections. The answer is he is a pro trans lunacy,

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Speaker 1: far left wing pro BLM, burning down neighborhoods in the

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Speaker 1: biggest city in his state. Radical. That's what he actually

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Speaker 1: stands for. He is the guy who set up a

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Speaker 1: COVID snitch hotline. Oh, somebody got out of their house

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Speaker 1: to go play basketball. They're a risk. Let's lock them up,

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Speaker 1: or let's give them a fine. Call your police officers.

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Speaker 1: It was nuts here he is Clay. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: so much here to go after. Here he is saying

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Speaker 1: that this is where he's doing the whole folks. See

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Speaker 1: the folks, see dance for everybody. Oh, I'm just such

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Speaker 1: a good old guy. You can trust me. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Midwestern guy just like you. Oh, come on, this is

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Speaker 1: cut four. Listen to this. Some of us are old

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Speaker 1: enough to remember.

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Speaker 2: When it was Republicans who were talking about freedom. It

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Speaker 2: turns out now what they meant was the government should

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Speaker 2: be free to invade your doctor's office.

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Speaker 1: In Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: We respect our neighbors and their personal choices that they make,

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Speaker 3: even if we wouldn't make the same choice for our

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Speaker 3: there's a golden rule.

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Speaker 4: Mind your own damn business.

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Speaker 1: That's not the golden rule. But put that aside for

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Speaker 1: a second. The guy who set up the COVID snitch

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Speaker 1: hot line for people who wanted fresh air is presenting

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Speaker 1: himself as the for choice and for freedom guy Clay.

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Speaker 1: It's just all a lie. It's all a facade.

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Speaker 4: It's a total lie.

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Speaker 5: And again, I think that is really important that he's

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Speaker 5: trying to pretend that he's for freedom while he's supporting

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Speaker 5: a candidate that wanted to mandate that everyone have to

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Speaker 5: get the COVID shot, even though we know the COVID

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Speaker 5: shot is effectively worthless. Right, I think even left wingers

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Speaker 5: now are who got five and six and seven and

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Speaker 5: eight of those COVID shots are like, yeah, it's basically

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Speaker 5: and it hasn't really altered the trajectory.

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Speaker 4: Of the virus at all.

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Speaker 5: And meanwhile, these companies have gotten fabulously well healthy. But

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Speaker 5: to me, what it is buck in many ways is

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Speaker 5: clarifying about Kamala Kamala is a chameleon. She is trying

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Speaker 5: to be all things to all people. Right now, we

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Speaker 5: are sitting at what day seventeen since she became the

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Speaker 5: nominee effectively, and she still hasn't done an interview, She

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Speaker 5: hasn't come off a teleprompter, She hasn't even done an

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Speaker 5: unscripted interaction with real voters in any of these jurisdictions.

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Speaker 5: They are trying to hide Kamala because they know that

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Speaker 5: she is a gaff prone machine that is actually pretty

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Speaker 5: unlikable when she is off the prompter. What is intriguing

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Speaker 5: to me is it's working so far, and this is

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Speaker 5: why I get nervous about this process. Thirty days from now,

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Speaker 5: vote start. So whatever the universe is in Trump VI. Kamala,

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Speaker 5: the snapshot of that universe is continuing every day. And

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying there is we don't have an election

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Speaker 5: day anymore. We have an election season. So if you're

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Speaker 5: popular after Labor Day, that gets locked in, that snapshot

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Speaker 5: all throughout the next ninety days. And so my concern is,

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Speaker 5: you gotta knock Kamala off that prompter. And I don't

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Speaker 5: think there's anybody in media that's actually going to argue

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Speaker 5: that she needs to do it, and they're going to

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Speaker 5: try to hide her. That's the entire campaign.

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Speaker 1: Now, will she debate or not is certainly a question

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Speaker 1: in all this. I can see Democrats. Remember I thought

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Speaker 1: Biden wouldn't debate, and let me be clear, he shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have debated. Had he not debated, he would be the

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Speaker 1: nominee and I would be picking out an overpriced piece

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Speaker 1: of meat that Clay would be buying for me at

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Speaker 1: a fancy establishment instead of the other way around. Joe

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Speaker 1: should not have debated. That was a huge obvious error.

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Speaker 1: Now should Kamala debate? I think it's different for her Clay,

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Speaker 1: because first of all, she's been calling out Trump for

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Speaker 1: not debating her right, so it will look bad to

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Speaker 1: there's what's right and there's what perception will be. It's

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Speaker 1: clearly absurd for her to call Trump out and then

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Speaker 1: that this is where what's right and perception line up.

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Speaker 1: People would say, come on, that's wimpy. You don't get

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Speaker 1: to play this game where you call out somebody and

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Speaker 1: say I want to debate you and then they say okay,

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Speaker 1: so I think she would run a risk there. I

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Speaker 1: do know that they're going to do everything possible to

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Speaker 1: they can. You know, they've got David Pluff, who is

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Speaker 1: for the Kamala campaign. Some of the Obama you know,

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Speaker 1: top echelon have all jumped in now to get involved

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Speaker 1: with So they're they're throwing a lot of heavyweight behind this.

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Speaker 1: She's raised more money in one month than I think

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Speaker 1: any person ever. But it's not really a fair comparison

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Speaker 1: because it's like she started a new campaign with two

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Speaker 1: months to go. Like, you're gonna have to condense all

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Speaker 1: that money. Everyone knows that, right, I mean, you're you're

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Speaker 1: just condensing, you know, Isn't it like like Nascar is

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Speaker 1: fair to compare one to one on the ratings. See

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Speaker 1: I just did sports now, Klay's proud, You're you're concerned

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Speaker 1: here's why I'm less concerned, or or I would even

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Speaker 1: say I'm I'm not concerned. I think Trump's gonna win.

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Speaker 1: Here's why. I think Kamala is at her absolute peak

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Speaker 1: margin of error for a Democrat candidate who has the

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Speaker 1: whole machine behind her. I don't think it's gonna cut it.

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Speaker 1: That's my that's my rosie sine. But that's what I believe.

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Speaker 5: I think that they're going to do one debate. I

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Speaker 5: think that it'll be a fairly standard presidential debate, by

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Speaker 5: which I mean both sides come out saying our side one.

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Speaker 5: It's like a boxing match where both guys raise their

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Speaker 5: you know, the judges at MSNBC are going to talk

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Speaker 5: about how amazing Kamala was, the judges at Fox News

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Speaker 5: are going to talk about how good Trump was. And

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Speaker 5: it's in that sixty forty realm where it's hard to

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Speaker 5: really argue that you got to knock out or that

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Speaker 4: The direction of the race. One way or the other.

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Speaker 5: That's my expectation on what a debate between the two

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Speaker 5: go back to claiming victory putting Kamala on a teleprompter.

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Speaker 5: My concern, this is my big concern structurally for the race.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 5: Trump is doing media everywhere. He called into Fox and

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Speaker 5: people on Fox and Friends asking him questions, which, by

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Speaker 5: the way, he's asked about doing on this show before,

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Speaker 5: his feet responding to real voter questions. The problem is,

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Speaker 5: from people saying, oh, look, Trump is a malignant dictator

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Speaker 5: all over again. Meanwhile, Kamala just reads off a teleprompter,

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Speaker 5: And my concern is that the Kamala hider in the

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Speaker 5: basement campaign that they perfected using COVID as an excuse

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Speaker 5: for Fetterman in twenty twenty two is the road map,

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Speaker 5: and that might be enough to get her across the

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Speaker 1: Here's here's my what what keeps me from falling down

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Speaker 1: into the pit of Clay's despair? Over here? Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: what I've Here's what I've got in the back of

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Speaker 1: my mind. Joe Biden for all of his faults, all

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Speaker 1: of his flaws, all his shortcomings, which we discussed in

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Speaker 1: detail on this show, for every year and every day

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Speaker 1: of his presidency, apart from the sanility issue entirely we

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Speaker 1: and there's all these things he says anything and fine.

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Speaker 1: He's the he's really the prototypical politician. When you think

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Speaker 1: like if you think of an ambulance chasing lawyer, you

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Speaker 1: next in court. Biden's like the quintessential slimy politician. However,

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Speaker 1: his whole story of being Scranton Joe, riding the chu

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Speaker 1: some parts of Pennsylvania, some parts of Michigan, some parts

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Speaker 1: to us who maybe went Trump, then Biden and now

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Speaker 8: What bothers me about Tim Waltz is the stolen valor garbage.

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Speaker 1: I know people who got blown up by mortars walking

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Speaker 1: to the bathroom on these bases in a rock like

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Speaker 1: that would happen. So it's not oh, you weren't a

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Speaker 1: door kicker. You're not a seal, you're not Delta, or

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Speaker 1: you're not an army ranger or you know whatever, you're

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Speaker 1: not a marine. You know, so you didn't serve. That's

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Speaker 1: not true. You know, it's part of there. It's one team,

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Speaker 1: one fight there. And again I'm speaking through the prison

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to Sean here a minute of somebody

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Speaker 1: who talked to a lot of veterans in the war

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Speaker 1: zones about this. But this was the attitude that I

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Speaker 1: that I would I would hear from them, which is

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Speaker 1: if we're willing to show up and help, you know,

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Speaker 1: logistics matter, like thank you for making sure the ammunition

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Speaker 1: and the food is getting to the soldiers on the

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Speaker 1: front lines, if you're at one of the big bases.

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Speaker 1: Like so you're playing a role, you're playing a part.

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Speaker 1: And then there's combat. Combat is people trying to kill you.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to kill them all right, like they did.

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Speaker 1: But like those are the tiers walls did the did

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Speaker 1: you know it was tier one? It was you know,

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Speaker 1: he he was helpful to the machinery of the military

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Speaker 1: for a period of time. But the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: not that he didn't serve and he just missed it.

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Speaker 1: Like I know people that you know, they say, that's

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Speaker 1: what I was going to point out, like you don't

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Speaker 1: control when you might get shipped up, exact could have

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Speaker 1: finished his entire tenure, and that just never happened for him, right,

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Speaker 1: But then push came to show that he actually was

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Speaker 1: potentially going to face real danger. He decided that he

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Speaker 1: wasn't willing to go. And then you brag about your service.

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Speaker 1: But that is out there that seems significant to me.

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Speaker 1: And also there's something else that really really has been

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Speaker 1: bothering me. And I guess it's because, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: have a dad who came from a very humble background

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Speaker 1: and had to just totally bootstrap it and you know,

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Speaker 1: no affirmative action for him. Nobody uh you know, had

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Speaker 1: to get was on scholarship in high school, was on scholarship,

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Speaker 1: you know, Clay, I know you got a scholarship in college.

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Speaker 1: My dad, I got a scholarship to high school. That's

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Speaker 1: whole other thing. He was on a full scholarship in

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Speaker 1: high school. We got a scholarship to go to college,

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Speaker 1: had to you know, was waiting tables on his fellow

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Speaker 1: students to try to make money and all this sort

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Speaker 1: of stuff. And I feel like we used to really

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Speaker 1: respect that in this country, and now we don't respect it.

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Speaker 1: If it's a white guy, that's what's really happened. If

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Speaker 1: you're a white guy who works his way up and

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Speaker 1: gets to an Ivy League school, somehow you're like part

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Speaker 1: of the elites and you're part of the problem. Well,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second, why is this not the great

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Speaker 1: American story? By the way, I believe that it's a

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Speaker 1: great story, you know, for anybody who earns it and

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Speaker 1: works hard and goes to an a lead institution. Now,

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Speaker 1: I do have problems with people who are legacies, people

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Speaker 1: who wouldn't have gotten in if they didn't have a

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Speaker 1: certain skin color. I do think that's wrong.

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Speaker 5: Or if you weren't super rich, that's the reason you

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Speaker 5: got in legacy admissions or affirmative action, I think they're But.

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Speaker 4: What you're hitting is that.

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Speaker 5: Vance, Yes, the meritocracy should be embraced across all of America.

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Speaker 5: That is, if you lift yourself up from a stature

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Speaker 5: with which you did not begin. It used to be

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Speaker 5: something that we all as Americans would embrace.

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Speaker 4: The idea that you would attack JD.

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Speaker 5: Vance, who went to Ohio State on the gi Bill

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Speaker 5: who grew up in levels of poverty frankly that most

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Speaker 5: Americans do not, and that he was able to elevate

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Speaker 5: himself and go to Yell Law School is to me

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Speaker 5: a tremendous accomplishment of his. And by the way, I

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Speaker 5: would say the same thing. Ron de Santis went to

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Speaker 5: I believe, Harvard Law School, right, Yes, very middle class

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Speaker 5: beginnings in Florida.

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Speaker 4: I went to Vanderbilt Law School.

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Speaker 5: Nobody in my grandfather had an eighth grade education, Like

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Speaker 5: I feel incredibly fortunate that I was able to do that.

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Speaker 5: That should but we want everybody, right, if you're listening

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Speaker 5: to us right now, and you have kids, and you

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Speaker 5: worked in a factory as my family did, and your

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Speaker 5: kid or your grandkid gets an opportunity to achieve something

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Speaker 5: that you didn't have the opportunity for, that is the

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Speaker 5: foundation of the American dream. We all want our kids

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Speaker 5: to be better off than we were.

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Speaker 1: I think that you know the difference between the the

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Speaker 1: in the in rough outline between Walls's story and Jade

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Speaker 1: Vance's story is Jadie Vance is more academically gifted and

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Speaker 1: was able to go to more elite institutions as a

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Speaker 1: result of his hard work. But that's it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no he didn't have some advantage. In fact, he

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Speaker 1: probably had a more disadvantaged upbringing. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: a bigger thing, a broader thing, and we really have

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Speaker 1: to put an end to this of Oh, if you're

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Speaker 1: some poor white kid from anywhere in the country, but

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Speaker 1: you know, particularly like a roughs belt state, you know, Kentucky, Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: anywhere in Appalachia, a rough part of Ohio, or a

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Speaker 1: poor town in Michigan or Wisconsin, whatever, if you're from

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Speaker 1: any of these places, you're a white kid, and you

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Speaker 1: just bust your ass and.

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Speaker 4: You do you know, you do well. You know you

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Speaker 4: do it the way you want to do it. You

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Speaker 4: do well whatever that means.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it means, you know, you start your own contracting

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Speaker 1: business and you know you have a happy one. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it means you go to a ye law school. That

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Speaker 1: that's not impressive. Yeah, is a slap in the face

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Speaker 1: that that somehow isn't something to be celebrated. Is you

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Speaker 1: know why because of all of your white privilege. I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you if you looked at a lot of the

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Speaker 1: white guys who grew up around JD. Vance in similar circumstances.

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Speaker 1: None of them went to yea law school. They certainly

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Speaker 1: aren't vice you know, vice presidential contender right now?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: You had to know a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 5: those A lot of those kids are dead because I

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Speaker 5: mean sadly because of the amount of drugs and alcohol

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Speaker 5: that have have filed into that area. Look, the Republicans

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Speaker 5: have to always be the party of meritocracy. And if

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Speaker 5: you are the best at what you do, you should

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Speaker 5: be able to make as much money as possible. You

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Speaker 5: should be able to found a business.

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Speaker 4: You should.

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Speaker 5: I just the idea that you would attack jav Vance

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Speaker 5: because you don't think he's accomplished enough is just bonker

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Speaker 5: Land crazy to me.

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Speaker 4: He's forty and.

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Speaker 5: He's got three kids, seems to have a good marriage,

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Speaker 5: graduated from an elite law school, has had success in business,

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Speaker 5: and now is potentially going to be the next vice

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Speaker 5: president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: If he's not a success, who is wrote probably the

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Speaker 1: best selling American.

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Speaker 4: Men, Ore of It.

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Speaker 5: Not even mentioned a matter yet so far they made

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Speaker 5: a movie about his life. I mean, if that's not

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Speaker 5: the meritocracy in the American dream.

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Speaker 1: What is a guy who wrote writes an autobiography called

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Speaker 1: Hillbilly Elegy, which is a runaway bestseller because of its authenticity.

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Speaker 1: Is being attacked by Democrats for being a fancy elite.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, was Abraham Lincoln a fan?

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Speaker 8: And see a lead?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying Jade Vance's Abraham Lincoln, but

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Speaker 1: you know he became president. Brilliant guy, very humble beginnings.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, do you.

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Speaker 1: See what I'm saying that us missed to be?

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Speaker 5: The American dream was Andrew Jackson, Like you could rise

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Speaker 5: from nothing to become the president. Look, I mean that's

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Speaker 5: the story of Barack Obama.

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Speaker 4: That's a story of Bill Clinton. Democrats used to embrace it.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this, if Kamala Harris was impressive given

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Speaker 1: her demographic profile academically or intellectually, she would have gone

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Speaker 1: to better schools full stop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the truth.

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Speaker 1: It's the truth. I mean people can think it, Oh,

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Speaker 1: how dare you? Where'd you go to law school? She's

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Speaker 1: a black female. If you look at the actual data

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Speaker 1: on what it would take for her to get in

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Speaker 1: DL law school versus jad Vance. By the way, this

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Speaker 1: is now public record. This is the Supreme Court. They

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Speaker 1: have weighed in on this. There's no more like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're not allowed to talk about that. These are facts.

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Speaker 1: She's not impressive.

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Speaker 9: She failed.

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Speaker 1: Impressive about her.

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Speaker 4: She took it. Buck.

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Speaker 10: he should win in a canta. But yeah, you know

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Speaker 10: it's going to come down again to those battleground states

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Speaker 10: that are controlled by Democrats, and we know that they

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Speaker 10: are implacably opposed to having election security election.

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Speaker 7: You know, any voter.

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Speaker 10: ID, why is that? Why are they registering illegal aliens?

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Speaker 10: There's all sorts of dirty tricks.

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Speaker 1: Branda. It's it seems like there's been a move from JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance to finally respond and turn the tables a bit

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Speaker 1: on all the critics that he has, including and I

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Speaker 1: know you've noted this publicly the way that he's pointing

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Speaker 1: out Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: On the one hand, JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance is being attacked by the media from every which direction,

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Speaker 1: including I don't want to repeat it, but everyone knows

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. This Absolutely, there's just a fabrication,

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Speaker 1: a lie that even Tim Waltz made reference to last

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Speaker 1: night that it's like it's like a mean joke that

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Speaker 1: somebody put on the Internet that they now try to

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Speaker 1: slam under Jady Vans with. It's bizarre, but they're desperate. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: JD is pointing out to Kamala Harris isn't even really

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Speaker 1: running a campaign. She's just been picked and they're just

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Speaker 1: telling you vote for Kamala. The rest of the media

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Speaker 1: is carrying all the water, doing all the work.

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Speaker 10: Yes, and look today, as JD Vance keeps on pointing out,

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Speaker 10: will be the eighteenth day since Kamala Harris was installed

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Speaker 10: in place of Joe Biden, and she has not given

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Speaker 10: a single press conference or kind of unscripted remarks outside

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Speaker 10: the teleprompter, apart from that ridiculous word salad that she

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Speaker 10: gave on the tarmac the other day when.

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Speaker 7: The hostages came home.

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Speaker 10: No wonder they don't let her out from behind a teleprompter.

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Speaker 10: And you know, her poll numbers, her popularity has gone up.

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Speaker 10: She's now beating Trump for doing absolutely nothing but just

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Speaker 10: a very clever kind of TikTok online campaign to make

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Speaker 10: her look cool and joyful and vigorous. And they're so relieved,

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Speaker 10: the Democrats, that they haven't got a walking Kidava in

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Speaker 10: an office that I guess that they're full of the

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Speaker 10: irrational exuberance which I assume will pease her out after

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Speaker 10: their convention.

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Speaker 4: Miranda, here's my concern.

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Speaker 5: I thought when Joe Biden got elected in twenty and

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Speaker 5: they basically buried him in the basement, that they would

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Speaker 5: have to acknowledge that COVID wasn't that COVID was the

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Speaker 5: reason they could do that. But there doesn't seem to

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Speaker 5: be any mechanism that is going to require Kamala to

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Speaker 5: ever come off the teleprompter at all. Maybe one debate,

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Speaker 5: which my concern is both sides will raise their gloves

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Speaker 5: after the debate like a boxing match, and go back

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Speaker 5: to their corners and say that they won. I think

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard for Trump to knock Kamala out

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Speaker 5: like he knocked Biden out, because she's not a corpse

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Speaker 5: basically right, So what mechanism is there to require? And

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Speaker 5: we know it's a compliant press, but Lester Holt, for

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Speaker 5: God's sakes, devoured Kamala is such an extent that she

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Speaker 5: didn't do a sit down interview for another year. I

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Speaker 5: just think Democrats are gonna say, hey, we're too busy,

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Speaker 5: we're campaigning. She's reading off the teleprompter. I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: they're ever going to require her to do anything. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: Trump is out there doing every media outlet under the sun,

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Speaker 5: pro and con. And yet every time he says something

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Speaker 5: that's a little bit outside the color lines, they grab

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Speaker 5: him and try to drag him around. And there's no

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Speaker 5: same standard being applied to Kamala at all. This seems

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Speaker 5: like the new rig job that's in effect. This is

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Speaker 5: what I see.

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Speaker 4: Am I missing it? Or do you see it too?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Look I see it that way too. You know, when

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Speaker 10: the Democrats control all the kind of narratives forming institutions

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Speaker 10: in the country, and that's you know, the media they're

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Speaker 10: almost fully in control of, including social media pup from

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Speaker 10: the one bright spot of x thanks to wing on Musku,

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Speaker 10: they're trying to destroy and you know Hollywood academia. There's

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Speaker 10: a documentary I was just told about that Kevin Morris

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Speaker 10: Hunter Biden's Sugar Brothers created that's coming out just before

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Speaker 10: the election at the Toronto Film Festival, which is eulogizing

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Speaker 10: Adam Kingsinger as the valiant, noble last Republican. So that's

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Speaker 10: the kind of sort of narrative machine that the Republicans

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Speaker 10: and Trump are up against. Now. The thing that's good

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Speaker 10: about Trump is that he's such a showman that he

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Speaker 10: does manage to sort of get around that mythmaking machine

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Speaker 10: because he is his own myth and people are fascinated

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Speaker 10: by him, and you know, he's doing some unorthodox things

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Speaker 10: going on big sort of use live streams and getting

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Speaker 10: a lot of cued offs for that. And I think

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Speaker 10: that as the sort of dinosaur media lose their power

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Speaker 10: and influence because they've been so dishonest that they're sort

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Speaker 10: of attacks on Trump and they're eulogizing of Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 10: I think does have a limit.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Miranda Devine of The New York Post and

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Speaker 1: also the author of the excellent Laptop from Hell. So

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Speaker 1: now that we know Miranda switching a little bit of

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Speaker 1: gears here. Now that we know that Joe Biden is

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Speaker 1: not going to be the guy, very very sad for

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Speaker 1: those of us who thought he'd make it all the

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Speaker 1: way through. When do you think the pardon that he

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Speaker 1: said would never happen for Hunter happens. Do you have

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Speaker 1: a take on when Joe's I would not pardon my son,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually going to pardon my son.

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Speaker 10: I think it will be at the very last minute,

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Speaker 10: so that they can just ring every last drop of

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Speaker 10: you know, freebes and trips on Air Force one and

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Speaker 10: holidays in Camp David, et cetera out.

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Speaker 7: Of the presidency.

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Speaker 10: And remember Hunter has next months, he's quite important. It'll

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Speaker 10: be long tax trial in California. And that was the

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Speaker 10: trial that was going to be a big problem for

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Speaker 10: Joe Biden because it brings in.

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Speaker 7: All the Barisma money, Ukraine, China, etc.

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Speaker 10: And so I think the Democrats dodged a bullet in

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Speaker 10: that case. And perhaps that's factor into their thinking because

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Speaker 10: Hunter is in no mood to take a plea, and

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Speaker 10: it looks like the prosecutors are quite keen to bring

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Speaker 10: in thorough violations, so that would be very interesting. And

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Speaker 10: I think they'll just wait and see if he gets.

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Speaker 7: A conviction and then pardon him at the end of it.

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Speaker 7: But you know he's going to get a pardon.

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Speaker 10: He was so sanguine about the guilty verdict from the

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Speaker 10: jury in Delaware over his gun felony that well, everyone

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Speaker 10: around him was very upset. He was just very calm,

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Speaker 10: cool and collected about it.

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Speaker 7: Because he knows that there are no consequences for him,

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Speaker 7: like they never have been.

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Speaker 5: Miranda, you meant since we went to Biden, I love

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Speaker 5: that you will share the president's schedule on a regular basis.

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Speaker 5: I think you just shared that he's taking another four week,

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Speaker 5: four day weekend headed back to the beach house. What

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Speaker 5: is actually going on here? Because we may have an

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Speaker 5: attack coming at any moment from Hesbola and from Iran.

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm not in Israel right now because they

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Speaker 5: canceled our flights. Seems like kind of an important time

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Speaker 5: for the president to be near the situation room. I

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Speaker 5: know they had him briefing in the situation room recently.

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Speaker 5: But is this sort of a quiet quitting element of

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Speaker 5: Biden where it's like he's just pouting over being left

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Speaker 5: behind and he's not doing anything. I mean, I haven't

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Speaker 5: even barely seen him. It's like we don't have a

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Speaker 5: president right now.

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Speaker 10: It really is a joke day auf Today the White

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Speaker 10: House puts out his schedule and it's like the other day.

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Speaker 10: One thing on his schedule was that he gets the

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Speaker 10: daily brief.

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Speaker 7: Normally that goes to a president in the morning, so

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Speaker 7: he knows what's going on to the day.

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Speaker 10: He was getting it at two fifteen pm. So I mean,

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Speaker 10: is he getting out of bed at noon that he's

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Speaker 10: doing nothing? And KJP was buttonholed about that yesterday and

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Speaker 10: her briefing, and she said, oh, no, you know you're

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Speaker 10: seeing the president. No, we're not, we're not seeing the president.

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Speaker 10: He's not anywhere. He's as you say, quiet quitting. And

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Speaker 10: then going on these four day holidays on the weekend

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Speaker 10: and he's on holiday the whole time. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 10: he is pouting. Maybe he's been instructed by the Democrats

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Speaker 10: to just keep a low profile so he doesn't get

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Speaker 10: in the way of Kamela's wonderful debut on the international stage.

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Speaker 7: But it's you.

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Speaker 10: Know, he should he should not be being paid. He

809
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Speaker 10: should quit entirely. If he's not capable of running for office,

810
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Speaker 10: then he's got to step down because this is very

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Speaker 10: dangerous and the American people deserve to know who is

812
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Speaker 10: making these mammoth decisions. Who decided to send a destroyer

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Speaker 10: to Israel?

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Speaker 7: What is going on?

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Speaker 5: Those are very valid questions. What is going on? Who's

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Speaker 5: in charge? We don't have any idea, Miranda Divine. I'm

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Speaker 5: glad that you guys are continuing to fight the good

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Speaker 5: battles at the New York Post. Encourage everybody to follow

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Speaker 5: reading your columns as we do regularly on this program. Miranda,

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Speaker 5: we appreciate the time.

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Speaker 10: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 4: Fight it in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on.

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Speaker 1: Our Friend Sean Parnell joins. He's a combat veteran New

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Speaker 1: York Times bestselling author of Outlaw Platoon. He also hosts

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Speaker 1: Battleground Live on the Clay and Buck podcast Network. He's

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Speaker 1: a fantastic host. Check out that show, subscribe to Clay

874
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Speaker 1: and Buck podcast Network, and then listen to the Sean

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Speaker 1: Parnell Show. Sean, great to have you, my friend. Good

876
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Speaker 1: to talk to you again. As always, Buck, it.

877
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Speaker 4: Is great to be here.

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Speaker 9: Thank you and Clay for having me as well.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with the big item today, Sean, that

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Speaker 1: I think you could really shed some light on. There's

881
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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism and it's coming to me as

882
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Speaker 1: well as a lot of other people, but coming to

883
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Speaker 1: me from veterans specifically, who are saying this guy Walls

884
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Speaker 1: wants to tell us all that you know, he served

885
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Speaker 1: and we should all kind of bow down to his

886
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: veteran status. And it's all great and it's amazing, But

887
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Speaker 1: when it came time, after many years being a sergeant

888
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: major to go to a rock, he chose not to go.

889
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Speaker 1: Can you break this down for us as somebody who

890
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Speaker 1: was over there, was in combat and served his country

891
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: at that level, what do you make of what we

892
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: know about Governor Walls and his service At this point, Bucks,

893
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: it's cowardice, plain and simple, and let me give you

894
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Speaker 1: a sense of how eighteen year old privates, which, by

895
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Speaker 1: the way, very.

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Speaker 9: Very different from a command sergeant major. Command sergeant major

897
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Speaker 9: is the highest enlisted rank in the United States Military.

898
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Speaker 9: Command Sergeants major are the heart and soul of any unit.

899
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Speaker 9: They're the door kickers. They teach, they coach, they mentor

900
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 9: they train units. And Walls probably had eight hundred plus

901
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 9: soldiers a minimum beneath him. But my soldiers, my privates

902
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 9: in combat. And again, I was in combat for four

903
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 9: hundred and eighty five days in Afghanistan. Let an infantry

904
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Speaker 9: platoon at the height of the hunt for Bin Laden.

905
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Speaker 9: I watched my soldiers do extraordinary things in combat because

906
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Speaker 9: they were afraid of letting each other down. I watched

907
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Speaker 9: my medic, his name is Doc Pantoha, get shot in

908
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Speaker 9: the face and then treat twelve casualties without ever once

909
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Speaker 9: taking care of himself, three of which would have died

910
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Speaker 9: without his help. I watched a kid in my platoon

911
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Speaker 9: named Canton Winn gets shot in the head. He was

912
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Speaker 9: ebac to Germany developed the blood clot When the docs

913
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Speaker 9: tried to send him home, he said, no, keep me

914
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Speaker 9: here in Germany because when I heal up, I want

915
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Speaker 9: to get back to my soldiers. All of that buck

916
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Speaker 9: was because they didn't want to let their brothers down

917
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Speaker 9: next to them in the trenches. And keep in mind,

918
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Speaker 9: the job that most of these kids had before joining

919
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 9: the United States Military was high school short stop, and

920
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Speaker 9: so everything that we do in the military is geared

921
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Speaker 9: towards not letting your brothers and sisters down. And that

922
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Speaker 9: obligation is far greater if you're a leader, whether you're

923
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Speaker 9: a non commissioned officer and enlisted leader in the United

924
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Speaker 9: States Military or an officer. You know, when I was

925
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Speaker 9: in ranger school, like probably the most difficult school at

926
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Speaker 9: the United States leadership school that the Army has to offer.

927
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Speaker 9: I mean, it was constantly about starving you, keeping you awake,

928
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Speaker 9: you know, marching twenty miles a day, putting you in

929
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Speaker 9: very very high pressure leadership situations where they turn to

930
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Speaker 9: you and say, make a decision, you know, make a decision,

931
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Speaker 9: ranger lead, what are you going to do? And I'll

932
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Speaker 9: never forget in combat, trapped in a kill zone with

933
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Speaker 9: my radio telephone operator looking at me these big bright

934
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Speaker 9: blue eyes and he's you know, we're got surrounded, outmanned,

935
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Speaker 9: out gunned, shot shooting at us from all different directions.

936
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Speaker 9: He's looking at me and reverberating on my mind or

937
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Speaker 9: make a decision, lead right, And so Walls has an

938
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Speaker 9: obligation as a command sergeant major, the senior enlisted member

939
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Speaker 9: in his battalion, in his unit, to when they get

940
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Speaker 9: orders to go to combat, to go to Iraq. It's

941
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Speaker 9: his job to lead. It's his job to lead from

942
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Speaker 9: the front, to set the example. Run to the sound

943
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Speaker 9: of gunfire, not away. But in those critical moments when

944
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Speaker 9: all of his soldiers eight hundred plus at a minimum,

945
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Speaker 9: by the way, Buck eight hundred plus looking at him,

946
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 9: bright eyed, bushy tailed, and probably a little bit afraid

947
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Speaker 9: that they're going into the fray, he tucked tails and

948
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Speaker 9: he runs at that critical moment. I mean what like

949
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Speaker 9: it basically says to these kids who are going into

950
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Speaker 9: Iraq and don't know whether or not they're going to

951
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Speaker 9: come home alive. Hey, good luck, hope you survive. I'm

952
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 9: out of here. I'm retiring. It's just it's just gutting Buck.

953
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 9: It's it's hard to describe the level of cowardice that

954
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Speaker 9: it takes for a leader in the United States military,

955
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Speaker 9: especially one that served for twenty four years. They tried

956
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 9: out this twenty four years thing, like it's something about, oh,

957
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 9: look how long he's served, he should know better after

958
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 9: two years, twenty four years, it's just dereliction of duty

959
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 9: of the highest order, of the highest order.

960
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Speaker 5: Sean I Buck and I talked about this because I

961
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Speaker 5: saw you tweeting about it as soon as this story started,

962
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Speaker 5: and I said, I want to bring on Sean because

963
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 5: I don't even feel that comfortable analyzing it because frankly,

964
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Speaker 5: I never served, so a lot of people I think

965
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 5: out there here, oh twenty four years, and they automatically think, hey,

966
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Speaker 5: this is a valorous guy. But I think your perspective

967
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 5: is so important. How many people do you think that

968
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 5: have served in combat zones when they hear this about

969
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 5: Tim Walls have the exact same reaction that you do.

970
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 5: In other words, how commonplace do you think your opinion

971
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 5: is among those who have actually put their lives on

972
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 5: the line overseas or elsewhere.

973
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Speaker 9: Everyone, Clay, every single person that served overseas, probably looks

974
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 9: at this decision with disdain because the reality is is

975
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 9: that when you get orders to go to combat, to

976
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 9: go to war regardless of where it is. You sacrifice

977
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 9: a lot to do that, and you know you sacrifice

978
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 9: time with your family. If you have kids, you sacrifice

979
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 9: time with your children. The truth is, nobody wants to go,

980
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 9: but you sattle up and you go anyway because it's

981
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 9: your duty. And you have a duty, an obligation to

982
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 9: the to the man and woman in the trenches next

983
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 9: to you. And if you have if you're a leader,

984
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 9: that obligation is even greater because you know you have

985
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 9: an obligation to lead from the front, to go to

986
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Speaker 9: where the fire is heaviest, right to where you can

987
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 9: have the biggest impact on the battlefield. And not only that,

988
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 9: you know that every decision that you make could forever

989
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 9: alter the trajectory of your soldiers, and God forbid, if

990
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 9: you make a bad one, one of them goes home in.

991
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Speaker 4: A body bag.

992
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 9: And by the way, what I'm talking about I'm not

993
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 9: the exception to this, I'm the rule. This is the

994
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 9: situation that America's sons and daughters in find themselves in,

995
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 9: whether they're an enlisted leader or an officer, when they

996
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 9: raise their right hand and volunteer to serve in the military.

997
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 9: Clay so anyone that has shouldered that awesome responsibility of

998
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 9: leading America's sons and daughters. Nobody wants to go to combat,

999
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 9: but you saddle up and you go anyway because it's

1000
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 9: your duty. And for him to talk tail and run

1001
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 9: and then try to make the case that he should

1002
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 9: be the vice president of the United States a heartbeat

1003
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 9: away from the presidency while simultaneously calling Donald Trump and

1004
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 9: jd Vance weird, it's just beyond It's just beyond comprehension.

1005
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: Sean really appreciate that that perspective. We needed to hear

1006
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: that a lot. You know, we have so many veterans,

1007
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: we have so many active duty that listen to this show,

1008
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 1: and so to bring in somebody who who has really

1009
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: been out there and understands these decisions, I think it's

1010
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: just necess perspective. I also want to bring in your

1011
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: perspective as a native son of Pennsylvania, a Pittsburgh area

1012
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: guy who has run for Congress and knows the political battlefield,

1013
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: not you're talking about the battlefield of Afghanistan or Rocky,

1014
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: but now in the political battlefield quite a bit different.

1015
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: They didn't go with the governor of your state, Shapiro,

1016
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: how do you now assess Trump the Kamala in Pennsylvania.

1017
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, let me just say, as someone

1018
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 9: who's run for office twice in Pennsylvania, i gotta tell you,

1019
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 9: Clay Buck, I'm very glad that they did not pick

1020
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 9: Josh Shapiro because Josh Shapiro fakes a good game, he

1021
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 9: fakes being a moderate, and of course we all understand

1022
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 9: there's no such thing as a moderate Democrat. But he's

1023
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 9: in the most important swing state in the nation. I

1024
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 9: contend that Pennsylvania is the swing state because if you

1025
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 9: win Pennsylvania Democrat or Republican, it's far more likely that

1026
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 9: you win Michigan. It's are more likely that you win Wisconsin.

1027
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 9: And so to not pick Josh Shapiro because of the

1028
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 9: pro Hamas base pro Hamas base of their party, when

1029
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 9: Shapiro has sixty percent favorability and just won an election

1030
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 9: here in Pennsylvania just a couple of years ago, I'm

1031
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 9: telling you it's a mind blowingly stupid decision. Because vice

1032
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 9: presidential candidates, while they don't always carry their home state

1033
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 9: and a presidential cycle, oftentimes this is empirically validated. Over time,

1034
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 9: they're good for a one point eight percent bump in

1035
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 9: their home state, and guess what one point eight percent

1036
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 9: in Pennsylvania could make all the difference. So I am

1037
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Speaker 9: glad that Kamala picked Walls because right now, between Harris

1038
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 9: and Walls, we have what I believe to be the

1039
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 9: most radical top of the ticket in the history of

1040
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 9: our country. And I don't think that's hyperbole, and that's

1041
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 9: not going to play well in Pennsylvania, where you have

1042
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 9: over one point two million independents that are trying to

1043
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 9: assess where they want to go with their lives. And

1044
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 9: I think when they go into that election booth clay

1045
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 9: Buck and they pull that lever, it's going to be

1046
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 9: a very simple calculation for them. What life was like

1047
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 9: under Trump, you know, food gas affordable four oh one

1048
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 9: k going up, and what life is like under Biden,

1049
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 9: and who Kamala Harris is connected to life is a

1050
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 9: heck of a lot harder now. And when you're trying

1051
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 9: to make the case to independence, you know Blue staters

1052
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 9: like somebody from Minnesota like Walls, somebody from California like Harris,

1053
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 9: they struggle mightily to talk to those centrists that are

1054
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 9: critically important to win. So I think it bodes well

1055
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 9: for Trump and JD in Pennsylvania that they've got this

1056
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 9: crazy radical Walls on the ticket.

1057
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 5: Okay, you're a you're a Philly, you're a Pittsburgh guy.

1058
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 5: I got an important question for you to close out

1059
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 5: everything you covered. You covered what you seemed to be

1060
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 5: Tim Wallas's cowardice. You just broke down how Pennsylvania is

1061
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 5: gonna go uh in the election. This is the question

1062
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 5: that people in Pittsburgh care about the most. Who's going

1063
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 5: to be the quarterback this year? And how's he gonna do?

1064
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 9: You know, I look this, I'll tell you what Russell

1065
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 9: Wilson hurting his calf. I mean, there's always a quarterback

1066
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 9: controversy in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. But I would tell you this

1067
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 9: like I would be remiss to weigh in on that

1068
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 9: topic now, because.

1069
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Speaker 4: Way, hold on, hold on, this is this is amazing.

1070
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Speaker 9: You'll give you'll give an opinion on Tim.

1071
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 5: Walls's service record, on Kamala Harris's choice of vice president.

1072
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 5: Not even blink, just fire, full speed. I ask you

1073
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 5: to break down the Steelers quarterback situation. You are a

1074
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 5: die hard Steelers fan and you're like, I just.

1075
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: I don't know that I can weigh in on. This

1076
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: is amazing.

1077
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Speaker 9: I don't listen, Pittsburgh.

1078
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 5: You combat four and fifty days taking bullets from meers

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Speaker 5: trying to kill you for over a year year, and

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Speaker 5: you won't tell me who the quarterback is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 9: Look, Steelers fans are vicious. Okay, they're passionate. They're the

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Speaker 9: best traveling fans in football. I'll tell you this. Justin

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Speaker 9: Field's throwing dimes in training camp. I've been watching very

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Speaker 9: optimistic about that. He's got some longevity, He's got legs

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Speaker 9: underneath him, which is good for the Pittsburgh offense. But hey,

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Speaker 9: Russell Wilson, veteran quarterback, is good under pressure in those

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Speaker 9: critical moments, especially if you make it to the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: And I'm hoping fingers crossed that the Steelers make it

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Speaker 9: to the playoffs, and so you know, we'll see where the.

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Speaker 5: Car is.

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Speaker 4: The most pressing questions in the world.

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Speaker 5: Put him on the spot for who's going to be

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Speaker 5: Steelers quarterback, and he gets.

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Speaker 4: Right on the fence. This is amazing.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, the network trying to ambush him for

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Speaker 1: eighteen months, Like yeah, but what's the depth chart of

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers Clay. I don't want to get myself

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Speaker 1: into too much stress and trouble here.

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Speaker 5: So, by the way, Sean, as we go to break,

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Speaker 5: I told you, I told Buck we got to meet

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Speaker 5: in person at the event we just did last week.

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Speaker 4: You and your wife fantastic.

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Speaker 5: We're happy to have you as a part of the

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Speaker 5: podcast network despite your cowardice on picking a Steelers quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I would encourage everybody out there to go listen to

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Speaker 5: Sean Parnell's podcast.

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you're gonna love it. And we appreciate your

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Speaker 4: time today.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. Thanks Buck, Take care guys. Yeah, great to see you, man.

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Speaker 4: That is fabulous. Buck.

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Speaker 5: There you go, guys, fearless answering every question under the sun.

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Speaker 5: You ask him who the quarterback of his favorite team

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Speaker 5: is going to be, and he turns tail. It's a

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Speaker 5: story as old as time. Let me tell you the

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Speaker 5: Israeli defense forces on high alert, bracing for an attack

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Speaker 5: any moment I was going to be in Israel, and

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Speaker 5: so they canceled our flights because they were concerned about

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Speaker 5: when Iran was going to attack, when Hesbola was going

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Speaker 5: to attack, And that is going on every minute as

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Speaker 5: we speak. At any moment in time, an attack may

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Speaker 5: be coming from Israel's enemies. In the event of that attack,

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Speaker 5: they're going to be forcing almost everyone into bomb shelters.

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Speaker 5: The shelters keep Israeli safe, but they also need to

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Speaker 5: be equipped with essentials, including food, water, to prepare people

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Speaker 5: to live in them for extended peer periods of time.

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Speaker 5: This is where the International Federation of Christians and Jews

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Speaker 5: comes in. The Fellowship has launched a project to immediately

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Speaker 5: equip bomb shelters with emergency food boxes for Israelis who

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Speaker 5: have to remain there in case of attack. Ten thousand

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Speaker 5: of these food boxes have been delivered and they're preparing

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Speaker 5: to deliver thousands more. If you can support the Federation's efforts,

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Speaker 5: now is the time donate forty five dollars to help

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Speaker 5: provide an emergency food box that includes items like food, water,

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Speaker 5: baby formula, and other critical essentials for vulnerable Israelis trapped

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Speaker 5: in bomb shelters. Website is this SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That

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Speaker 5: support IFCJ dot org.

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Speaker 6: Patriots Radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis

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Speaker 6: and sext To find them on the free iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcasts,