1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: The most valuable commandity I know of is information. Wouldn't 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: you agree to. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: One out five dollars? 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: This is a regular level happing a table kite. You're 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Humans need fantasy to be human. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: My goodness, less good, prone, best, relentless, refusing to give up. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn very bless there. What's up y'all? 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I am Samanth Gravidi, 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: a fantasy analyst here at the Action Network. 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She is here today to 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: talk part two of our Rookie Wide Receiver Discussion AFC edition. 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: Hey how are you? 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: I'm a huge Steelers fan, so honored to be discussing 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: rookies for the AFC, specifically. I've got my Steelers T 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: shirt on. I'm ready to talk exclusively about George Pickens. 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: I think that's why I've been contacted for this podcast. Right, 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: We're just talking George Pickens over and over. 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: Yes, And when I said five minutes per that can 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: be on average of course, like we could spend twenty 33 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: five minutes on George Pickens, if that's how you would. 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Like to show. 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: Did you grow up in the greater Pittsburgh area? 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: So I grew up just about like an hour outside 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: of Pittsburgh. I've been a little bit all over the place. 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: I lived in Cleveland, I went to school in Cleveland, 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: stayed there for a couple of years. I've been in Miami, 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: but I lived in Pittsburgh most recently before just moving 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: to Houston. I'm like a globetrotter, is what I'm just 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: realizing now as I speak on this podcast. But I 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 3: lived in Pittsburgh for a number of years pretty recently 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: here love the city, but I did. 45 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: I grew up like halfway. 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Between Cleveland and Pittsburgh, and so growing up it was 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: absolutely fascinating because you know, like you go to stores 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: like department stores and stuff, and I'll have the gear 49 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: for like the local teams. You would literally go to 50 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: these department stores and it's a split fifty to fifty 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: down the middle, like there's a brown section and a 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: Steelers section, which I feel like was the most unique 53 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: experience growing up because there's not a lot of places 54 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: that can have like two teams that close together. 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: So it was it was fun. 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: But I fell on the Steelers side, and I'm I'm 57 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: happier for it for sure. 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: That is so funny. So my boyfriend is an insoftable 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland fan, in softwabl like the worst it's in. You know, 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't actually follow the NFL as closely as me, 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: but like you know who does right between us that 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: like work in the industry. But yeah, he'll just like 63 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: ask me casually, like are the Browns going to win 64 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year? And I'm like, no, they're not. 65 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a lot of Steelers hate here. He 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: actually like I'm like redoing this like backdrop, and he 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: wants to put like a Brown sat on the back 68 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: and I was like. 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't know. 70 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't I don't have anything against the Browns, but 71 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not a Browns. 72 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: Fan, so I'm not going to do that, you know 73 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: what I do think, Like, I mean, again, as somebody 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: who's been like a little bit all over the place, 75 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: love Pittsburgh so much, I love the city of Cleveland too. 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: You've got to hand it to Brown's fans who are 77 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: just the most loyal human beings. When I lived there 78 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: before the Baker Mayfield era and it was like Deshaun 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: Kaiser and just like Cody Kess like, it was just 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: like a bunch of garbage. And to see the fans 81 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: that would show out every single week, it was phenomenal. 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: So like, bhudos to Browns fans because they've been putting 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: up with a lot for a really long time and 84 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: never gave up hope. 85 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: And I mean, we've seen it work out for the Bills. 86 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: Who knows what's in store for the Browns at this point, 87 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: but you. 88 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Got to give it to their fan base. 89 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: Because they are some of the most loyal people you'll 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: ever meet. 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: I get that. And he's got this whole thing against 92 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: fair Weather fans, specifically the Golden the Golden State Warriors 93 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: right now, just because, like you know, it's been so 94 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: hard in Cleveland for so many years, and I get that. 95 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I know their fan base is interesting and 96 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: there are certainly worst fan bases out there, so yeah, 97 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: kudos to them for sticking it out. So, as I 98 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: mentioned in our previous episode, this list of wideouts is 99 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: just so long. It was such an amazing class we 100 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: are gifted for. You know, it is such a gift 101 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: for us as fantasy people. So we had to split 102 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: this into two. So we are tackling these seven AFC 103 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: wide receivers drafted in the first or second round. So 104 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: we're going to kick it off with Garrett Wilson, who 105 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: went to the Jets. Jets. I'm gonna first ask Landing 106 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: spot grade and I want to I want you to 107 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: give me something between an A and F for each 108 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: sort of team slash player accombination. The Jets have had 109 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: a top four pick in four of the last five drafts, 110 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: have not had a winning season since twenty to fifteen. 111 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: Do they get an automatic f for you in terms 112 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: of landing spot. 113 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: No, I actually think I think this is the year 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: that the Jets turn it around. I'm actually a really 115 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: big fan of sort of what they're building, how they've 116 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: put their team together. I think they've done a really 117 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: good job of rebuilding specifically over the last two years. 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: I think they have the right coaching staff. I mean 119 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: TBD on the quarterback situation. I think Zach Wilson definitely 120 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: has a ton of potential if they put the right 121 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: weapons around him. And I think that Garrett Wilson was 122 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: one of the most pro ready prospects among all of 123 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: these wide receivers and was my wide receiver two coming 124 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: in ahead of the draft. 125 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: Still my wide receiver too overall in this class. 126 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: But I think all of the weapons that they've put 127 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: into this Jets offense, between like Bryce Hall and like 128 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: Corey Davis, who's like a you know, an. 129 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: Actual solid wide receiver. 130 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: Three at this point, they've got Elijah Moore, who was 131 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: one of my favorite prospects last year. I'm actually going 132 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: to give this landing spot like a. I'll say like 133 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: a B plus, and it would be an A if 134 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: there weren't so many question marks about Zach Wilson, because 135 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: that's like the biggest I think this whole thing is 136 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: going to ride or die on whether or not he 137 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: can put together a solid sophomore campaign. 138 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: Fair enough, I mean, so at least he didn't look 139 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: as miserable as Jamison Williams going to Detroit. A lot 140 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: of memes were made out of that. But I mean, 141 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm maybe a little less optimistic. I think my time 142 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: at the Bigger Post has made me a little bit 143 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: sour on the jests, but I'm gonna give them a 144 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: C plus. Obviously. You know this. This is mostly tied 145 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: to my uncertainty with Zach Wilson. I think he just 146 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: needs to make a really significant leap to sort of 147 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: unlock the fantasy stardom for any of his past catchers. 148 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: There is a decent amount of competition, like I really 149 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: did like Elijah Moore last year. You mentioned Corey Davis, 150 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: So I mean it's not like there there's like a 151 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: ton of talent there, but it's a lot if you consider, 152 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, Zach Wilson's prowess at this point. So it's 153 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: just more that I'm taking a little bit more of 154 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: a conservative approach with him as of right now, but 155 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: going into sort of like how you view Wilson as 156 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: a prospect, So you did say he was your number two. 157 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: What makes you so hyped about him at number two? 158 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: For him to be the second wide receiver drafted off 159 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: the board, Like between him and Drake London, who was 160 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: my wide receiver one who went to the Atlanta Falcons, 161 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: I just think like it's impossible to go wrong between 162 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: these two. So even if your number one wide out 163 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: here was Drake London like mine was, to get Garrett 164 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: Wilson is at wide receiver two is incredible, not even 165 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: twenty two years old yet and just absolutely dominating an 166 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: offense that had a lot of I think overall talent 167 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: when you look at what him and Chris Olave were 168 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: both able to accomplish within the same offensive system. I 169 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: mean at Ohio State, they've just put out some really 170 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: solid wide receivers over the last couple of years. Really underrated, 171 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: I think in terms of his speed and athleticism. I 172 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: think Chris Alave got all of the love here for 173 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: the forty yard dash, but Garrett Wilson actually came at 174 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: a bit faster four three eight forty yard dash, which 175 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: is just incredible for a guy that I don't think 176 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: anybody really talks about is like this killer athlete's big hands, 177 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: Like this is a guy that I think comes out 178 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: just as a solid overall receiver. I think he's he's 179 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:51,479 Speaker 3: able to make those contested catch plays. I like everything 180 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: that he does, and I think he's got all of 181 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: the traits. So it really just comes down to will 182 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: he continue to grow as a wide receiver. I think 183 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: he will, just based on the weapons that they put 184 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: in the offense. But again, everything keeps coming back to 185 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: Zach Wilson for me, and what is he going to 186 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: do year two? Because he only had two games where 187 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: he put up more than two hundred and fifty passing yards, 188 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 3: not a single game with more than two passing touchdowns 189 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: in his rookie season. 190 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: It was just kind of like a big blue it was, 191 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: and I love that. 192 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: It was like how would I describe Zack Wilson's rookie season, 193 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: Like that's that's a new adjective in my book. And 194 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: like Garrett Wilson, it's just going to come down to 195 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: me whether or not Zack Wilson can make the jump. 196 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: And if he can, I think that Garrett Wilson is. 197 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: Enough profiles enough as like an alpha wide receiver one 198 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: that I mean he can be the next big name 199 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: in your fantasy leagues. And I think he's again pretty 200 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 3: pro ready to make an impact whether you're playing Dynasty, 201 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: whether you're playing redraft. I think he can have an 202 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: impact on the stat sheet, like right off the bat. 203 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, he is a blazing 204 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: fast prospect. He's got that stretch the field type capability. 205 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: He's got some concerns, like I think he should put 206 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: on a little bit of weight at sixty one eighty three, 207 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: he might have a little bit of trouble with press 208 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: coverage and sort of like NFL sized defenders, and like 209 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: there's some been some sort of things that he could 210 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: improve on some route running. I think Chris o'lovin maybe 211 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: had the edge there slightly. But Yeah, he definitely has 212 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: the capability of being the alpha receiver. So I am 213 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: super excited about him. Name a player current or retired 214 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: that comes to mind when you think of Wilson. Now, 215 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you something. Dannerlovski said Wilson could be 216 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: this year's DeVante Adams, and Milkiper said he could bid 217 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: this year's Jumar case, do either of those guys come 218 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: to mind or someone else. 219 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: You know, I think it's really hard to say that 220 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: he's going to step in to make either of those 221 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: like impact roles. I do kind of like the Jamar 222 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: Chase feel though Jamar Chase was walking into like a 223 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: much better situation offensively with Joe Burrow, and you know, 224 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: he had a lot of those weapons. The offensive line, 225 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: you know, was still a problem. But I think Joe Burrow, 226 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: especially as he was able to rehab a bit from 227 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: that acl and get back into the groove of the game, 228 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: he was able to make up for some of those deficiencies. 229 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: So I do kind of like the likening of Jamar Chase. 230 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: I just don't think there's a lot of holes in 231 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: his game that he can't really improve on. But definitely 232 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: I think what you mentioned the size bit is where 233 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 3: where that falls a little a little short for me understood. 234 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I hope that he reaches that. I'm maybe 235 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to give him more of like a Nicol 236 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: Hardman feel. I feel like that could be at least 237 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: where he falls maybe this year. And kind of this 238 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: goes into our next thing about twenty twenty two fantasy potential. 239 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: So I want to hear one prediction about Wilson's year 240 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: one for fantasy that could be upside, floor media, and 241 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: anything you want to say about him. 242 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: I think Garrett Wilson is going to be a really solid, 243 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: like wide receiver three with wide receiver two upside, and 244 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: that's just for this season. So I Garrett Wilson is 245 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 3: a guy that I'm kind of projecting to maybe get 246 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: drafted a little bit earlier than I'm comfortable taking him 247 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: in most situations. But he's a guy that I kind 248 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: of wonder, like, if he gets off to a slow start, 249 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: is he not going to end up on waivers at 250 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 3: some point in the season. You know, sometimes we get 251 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 3: really impatient with these rookies, especially after the immediate boom 252 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: that we had with Jimar Chase justin Jefferson, really hard 253 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: to like get off to any sort of slow start, 254 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: but and for us to hold on to him. So again, 255 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: I think this is a guy that I can project, 256 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: maybe not drafting a ton of, but if he does 257 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: manage to find waivers on you know, at some point 258 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: in the season, I'm gonna stash him wherever I can 259 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: because I do think he's gonna have a really killer 260 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: second half of the season once hopefully we see some 261 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: more rapport with Zach Wilson, they get into the groove 262 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: of the season because I think, I mean, the talent 263 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: is there, it's just got to come together for the team, 264 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: and sometimes that can take a little bit of time, 265 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: especially to start the year. 266 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I meant that, like wide receivers free upside at 267 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: this point, like I said, I'm just a little less 268 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: sold on him, at least for this year. I think 269 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: he's incredibly talented. I just think it's a system, but 270 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: that you know, such is what happens when you get 271 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: drafted early in the first round, right, Like you're not 272 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: going to go to the Chiefs. The Chiefs happen to 273 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: trade up, but like it's you end up on teams 274 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: like the Jets. So yeah, I mean at this point, 275 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: he his ADP for redraft and half PPR according to 276 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: Fantasy Pro's ADP is wide receiver forty eight. I think 277 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: that I would probably buy him there. I assume that 278 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: you would probably do. 279 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's I think that's fair, and I 280 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: you know, again, I don't know how much I'm going 281 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: to actually end up drafting him just with all these concerns, 282 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: but one hundred percent, I think he's He's going to 283 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: have a really interesting season and I think the upside 284 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: is super high. It's probably just a matter of like, 285 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: is he going to have that consistency right off the bat? 286 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: And that's that's my biggest, uh my biggest concern with 287 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: him at this point. But you got to know with 288 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: the prospect himself that the ceiling sky high. 289 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: I agree, all right, let us move on to our 290 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: second prospect, that's maybe Traylon Burks. This is I mean, 291 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: I guess talked about how it's hard for early first 292 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: round receivers to go to good teams, but this is 293 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: an interesting little in draft trade where obviously A. J. 294 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: Brown went to Philadelphia. Does Treylon Brooks get at least 295 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: an A or one of the top landing spot grazing 296 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: this class. 297 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: I think he does again probably B plus for this 298 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: better offense, But the question marks for me lie with 299 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: the offensive system and whether or not he's going to 300 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: be in for that instantaneous target share. 301 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: You know, there's been a lot. 302 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: Of offensive productivity from this offense, but it's come mostly 303 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: from the rush. Each of the seasons that we've seen 304 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: with Mike Rabel as the head coach, hasn't yet surpassed 305 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: ranking twenty fifth among NFL offenses in terms of pass 306 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: attempts for the team, which is kind of crazy because 307 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: you know, we've we've bought into a J. Brown, But 308 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: I think we bought into that with you know, the 309 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: notion that there's some efficiency there as long as Derrick 310 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: Henry's on the field, it's going to open up things 311 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 3: for the past. But the volume, that's the biggest concern 312 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 3: here because I can't imagine them, you know, ranking much 313 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: higher than twenty fifth than pass attempts for the twenty 314 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: twenty two season. That's the biggest question with Trailon Burks. 315 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: But interestingly, my pre draft comp for Traylon Burks was 316 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: AJ Brown. 317 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: So to have these guys. 318 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: Like a one for literally a one for one spop 319 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: essentially was kind of bonkers. You know, I don't think 320 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: he's quite as refined, but I mean Burkes, he just 321 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: plays physical. 322 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: He's such a fun player to watch. 323 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: If you haven't watched on him, any of the listeners 324 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: highly encourage you just go watch some highlights of Traylon Burks. 325 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 3: Even just type him into YouTube and enjoy what you 326 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 3: see on film because he's so physical. He's just a 327 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: kind of a tank, but moves much better than you 328 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: think he would at his given size. So I think, 329 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: like just such an interesting dude. People were a little 330 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 3: bit disappointed somehow based on his combine performance. He put 331 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: up a four five five forty, which I mean, let's 332 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: get this guy credit. 333 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: He's six to two hundred and twenty five pounds. 334 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: Like we were just talking about Garrett Wilson at one 335 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty three pounds. This is Trailon Brooks at 336 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: two twenty five. 337 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 2: Like, this dude's just a tank monster hands like. 338 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 3: He's a guy that I think again could profile as 339 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: that true alpha wide receiver one. 340 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: Now the questions come up. 341 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: We've heard some conjecture about how he's he's shown up 342 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: out of shape, which you feel like we've kind of 343 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: seen that across the board from a lot of people 344 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: this year. Do you have any concerns at all about 345 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: like some of these reports he's out of shape, His 346 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: asthma's bad, He's he's on the sideline using his inhaler 347 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 3: as an asthmatic. 348 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: I totally empathize with Trey Line here, but any of 349 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: those reports concerning in your immediate projections for him. 350 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: No, I just think this is like off season talk, 351 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: like there's not enough to talk about, so people have 352 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: to make Yeah, I mean I get it, I get it. 353 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: I work in media, and I've worked at a place 354 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: where like it was all about clicks, and you have 355 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: like you have to take the tiniest little like I mean, 356 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: I remember having to take tweets about like someone gaining 357 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: like five pounds, or like this little barb that this 358 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: person's wife took in another person's wife and how that 359 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: will affect their cornerback wide receiver matchup and things like Yeah. 360 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: So I mean personally, no, that doesn't really affect me 361 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: that much. I mean, the dude has asthma, Like let 362 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: him take some hailer. I don't know that that's not 363 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: really going to affect me. But yeah, I mean I 364 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: would say this landing spot is pretty ideal. I agree 365 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: with you that it's going to continue to be the 366 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: Derrek Henry Show. But that said, I mean, there's just 367 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: so little competition for targets. It's going to be Robert Woods, 368 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: who's quite a bit older coming off of an injury. 369 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: Nick Westbrookakina and Austin Hooper. Possibly could be someone that 370 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: like sort of sucks up some targets, but you know, 371 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: it just seems like he feels like the team like 372 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: views him very highly, and they vacated a huge spot 373 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: with Brown leaving. So I think that just the targets 374 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: alone will put him into that like fantasy relevance for sure. 375 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: I think that he has an awesome build, like you mentioned, 376 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: six to two twenty five, big hands, and we probably 377 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: make a little bit too much about people's hands. We'll 378 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: get to that about George Pickens, but we maybe make 379 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: a little bit too much about that, and like some 380 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: of the combine stuff, but aj Brown is a really 381 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: good analog. I was also thinking Julio Jones, another Titan guy, 382 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: so forward Titan guy, So I think that that's interesting 383 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: that you know, he ended up on the Titans. Give 384 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: me one prediction about Burke's year one for fantasy. 385 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 3: I'm projecting Burkes to come out and be more of 386 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 3: a volume guy. Then we project like I talked about him, 387 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: profilings like this ALFUA wide receiver. You know, he does 388 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: like his body type everything about trail on Burkes screams 389 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: a dude. That should be playing on the outside, but 390 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: he actually played out of the slot a lot, mostly 391 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: predominantly coming out of Arkansas. 392 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: That was his role was a slot wide receiver. So 393 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: I think if he stays in. 394 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: The slot, and I don't feel like we've heard enough 395 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: about how the Titans are going to use him, whether 396 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: or not Hull, you know, split some SNA apps outside 397 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 3: versus in the slot. But if he plays primarily out 398 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: of the slot, Burks might come out to have. 399 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: Like immediate, really high PPR upside. 400 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: You know. 401 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: I think one of the most interesting things about Trailon 402 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: Burks just overall is watching him after the catch. He 403 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: looks almost like a running back, like when he has 404 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: the ball in his hands and he's you know, making 405 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: contact with defenders down the field. Literally looks like as 406 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: strong as a running back out there. 407 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 2: He's really fun to watch. 408 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: So I do think if he plays out of the slot, 409 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: that could be where he gets his money, and he 410 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 3: could be a PPR gold mine, and that could put 411 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: him at the top of this class maybe in year 412 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: one right off the bat. But again question marks about 413 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: how he's going to be used again, how much, even 414 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: if he gets a high target share with those type 415 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: with the Titans. What does that mean overall for volume, 416 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 3: just because it is a low volume passing offense. But 417 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 3: I think there is a reality where Traylon Burkes finishes 418 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: as this class is wide receiver one in the twenty 419 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: twenty two season. 420 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. I think he had that wide 421 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: receiver two upside. He's got such a high ceiling as 422 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: this like blue chip prospect and a solid system, lack 423 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: of competition. I just I expect him to just make 424 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: that immediate impact. And you know, to your point about 425 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: playing in the slot, it's like about the mismatches that 426 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: he's going to create his size against, like slot corners. 427 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be really awesome. So I 428 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: am buying him at his current ADP of wide receiver 429 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: forty three. What about you? 430 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: I am buying And UH like very interesting because I'm 431 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: not as high on Trailon Burkes in dynasty as I 432 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: am in redraft, which is kind of interesting because I 433 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: feel like usually you get high on play in your 434 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: dynasty leagues for this long term value. But I think 435 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 3: again Treylon Burk's immediate impact, I think it could be instantaneous. 436 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: Though I don't think he's as refined as a guy 437 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: like Garrett Wilson. So right off the bat, I'll buy 438 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: at that ADP. 439 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: Love it, love it. We're going to jump into John 440 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: Mitchi the third. So the Texans eight combined wins over 441 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: the last two seasons, I don't know, so they get 442 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: an automatic f for you or how do you? How 443 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: do you feel about them? Yeah? 444 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 3: Kind of, And I feel like I'm very optimistic. You 445 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: heard my optimism surrounding the Jets, and despite their their 446 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: lack of success in recent seasons, but the Texans are 447 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: a team that I just don't really think has an 448 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: identity just yet. You know, they don't really have a 449 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: solid run game, they don't have a a presumed answer 450 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: at quarterback. They seem to like Davis Mills. I just 451 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: don't really have a direction for this team. And that's 452 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: sort of what bumps them down in my rankings. The 453 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: opportunity is there, but I mean the Texans dead lasting 454 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: yards last year third fewest points scored, only ahead of 455 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: the Giants and the Jaguars, which we were avoiding at 456 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: all costs. And when I asked myself, did enough change 457 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: this past off season? 458 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: I don't think enough changed. 459 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 3: But we're not going to see you know, John Matchi 460 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: and the Texans kind of continue to flounder a little bit. 461 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I'm going to give them 462 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: a baby minus. I mean, they're not a great landing spot. 463 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: I also don't think they have the worst. Like Davis Mills, 464 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: he was actually pretty surprising last year. So probably a guess. 465 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: Rockie quarterback there was, which is crazy. 466 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to give a credit where credit is due here. 467 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he did not enter a good situation. He's 468 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: a third round pick, and you know he ended up 469 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 1: playing thirteen games, eleven starts and did pretty well. I mean, 470 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: the depth chart really just fell off a cliff after 471 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. I mean it's like Nico Collins, Chris Conley. 472 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: It's tough. There's gonna be targets to go around. Though. 473 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: For MITCHU, I think healthy. I mean, he was part 474 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: of that Alabama once you punch aside alongside Williams. He 475 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: definitely could have gone earlier in the draft. Speaking of 476 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: that injury, he did tear his left acl sort of 477 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. How much does that 478 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: impact to your evaluation as mechi as a prospect and 479 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: like just generally what do you think of him? 480 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: I like Metchi a lot, another guy that I think. 481 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 3: Profiles really well as like a slot wide receiver, allow 482 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 3: him to get the ball in his hands, make some 483 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: plays after the catch. But the torn acl is absolutely 484 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: a huge concern I think for specifically Redraft and you know, 485 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: the landing spot location that factor more into my considerations 486 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: for him to than in Dynasty. 487 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: But the torn azl it did happen. 488 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: In the college football playoff semi finals, so like we're 489 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: talking late, what was that like December thirty first, I think, 490 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: like really really late in the season, so that that 491 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: definitely brings a lot of concerns because he's not yet 492 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 3: running routes at full speed that he's running. So that's great, 493 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: but he's missing kind of a lot of these like 494 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: really valuable pure reps that he. 495 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: Could be getting within the offense. 496 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 3: It's great that he's you know, in OTA's MIDI camp, 497 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: like he's doing all the right things, but there's nothing 498 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 3: like actually simulating that play and that physicality and learning 499 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 3: to trust your knee. Like I just don't think he's 500 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: going to be there in time for him to make 501 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: an immediate impact. 502 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: In year one. 503 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: It just sucks for John Metchi because the opportunity here 504 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: with the Texans is totally there. They have the door 505 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: wide open for a wide receiver. 506 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: Two in this offense. 507 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: But I think he's going to be playing catchup a 508 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: lo out of the season once he's finally healthy. 509 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. I mean that is something that fantasy 510 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: managers really do need to take into account, like the 511 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: amount of games that we assume Jamison Williams is going 512 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: to miss, like John Mechi's gonna miss the same amount 513 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: of games. It's the same injury and basically happened at 514 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: the same time, so that's very significant. His size, I mean, 515 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: he profiles basically the same as Garrett Wilson five to 516 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: eleven Woody D seven, So I mean, if he plays 517 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: out of the slot mostly it won't be as detrimental, 518 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: but certainly could be a thing to think about in 519 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: terms of like long term durability with his size. You know, 520 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: I think of another Alabama receiver, Daylan Waddle at five 521 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: ten wody two. I think that he's an interesting sort 522 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: of analog. Anyone else come to mind for you? 523 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: No, I think that's actually a really interesting comp there. 524 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: I kind of like that, especially the size coming out 525 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: of the system. 526 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 527 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: It's so hard, I think for me to evaluate John 528 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: Metchie and what he might be able to accomplish when 529 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 3: I'm just projecting this offense to be so poorly. Like 530 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: I've almost looked at John Metchie and I'm like, does 531 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: John Mitchie really matter? Because I don't think he's a 532 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: good enough wide receiver in terms of his talent to 533 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: necessarily transform this offense. Like Garrett Wilson I think is 534 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: a guy that can transcend quarterback play. John Mitchie I 535 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: don't think has that same talent. But definitely he's just 536 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: such an interesting guy, and I think the range of 537 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: outcomes is very wide for him both. I think on 538 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: the low side in twenty twenty two, but long term, 539 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: the range of outcomes is really anywhere. 540 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: It's pretty incredible. 541 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not even listed as a top one hundred 542 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: and twenty one receiver on Fantasy Fro's ADP as a 543 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: recording this podcast, all right, and moving on to Taekwon 544 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: Thornton Baylor receiver who went to the Patriots. I think 545 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots are overall a below average landing spot for 546 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: most positions as far as Fantasy it's concerned like, obviously 547 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: there were a great franchise in Bill Belichick's amazing, but 548 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: they don't have a particularly stacked receiving corp or anything 549 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: like that, So how do you rate them in terms 550 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: of a landing spot. 551 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: I actually ranked them a bit higher than you might think. 552 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: Mac Jones, I mean, ranked twelfth in passing yards in 553 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: his rookie season. Again, nobody talks about mac Jones enough. 554 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: He's not a rusher, so I feel like, you know, 555 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: we don't care about him for fantasy, but the passing 556 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: production is totally there. And I think when you think 557 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: about the fact that mac Jones had four thousand passing 558 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: yards last year, you have to think when there are 559 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: opportunities to be had here. I think both in terms 560 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: of yardage production and scoring production. 561 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: So I think. 562 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: The the opportunities there. But let's talk about Taekwon Thornton 563 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: the pick, because I feel like there was no pick 564 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: that came more out of left field than Taekwon Thornton 565 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: this year. 566 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: This is just Bill Belichick playing like three dach other 567 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: right or I don't know, like I give him that, 568 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: Like when there's a really weird pick that the Patriots make, 569 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 1: I just assume he can see something that no one 570 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: else can see. But I don't know, like maybe I 571 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't just extend that to him. 572 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: He's got like Bill Bill goggles on. Like I mean, 573 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: Taekwon Thornton ran. 574 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: The fastest forty yard dash at the Combine this year. 575 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: He's like just a speed monster. But every time I 576 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: have one of these really speedy monsters that's you know. 577 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: A flash like that. 578 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: I do worry just overall for fantasy about lack of 579 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: consistency because these are a lot of guys that, you know, 580 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: I think turn out better for the football field sometimes 581 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: than they do for fantasy. They open up, you know, 582 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: everything for the past game because you always have to 583 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: consider them for a deep threat. But Taekwon Thornton didn't 584 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: have him on my, uh even my top ten ahead 585 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: of the draft. The opportunity is there, But I do 586 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: think Thornton has a lot of polishing to do before 587 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to trust him in fantasy lineups in any 588 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: sort of capacity. 589 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean, like in terms of the Patriots, 590 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: like they are a fairly run heavy offense and Belichick's 591 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: just notoriously unpredictable with player usage, so that just and 592 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: it's more of a running back thing obviously, but it 593 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: makes me a little worry of kind of anyone, especially 594 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: considering that they have this like very saturated groove of 595 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: pass catchers, but no one's great. It's like Jacobe Myers, 596 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: who's like never had a touchdown, Nelson Aguiler, Devonte Parker, 597 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: Kendrick Boord, Nikhil Harry, like Hunter Henry and John Owsmith. 598 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: And then you know running back James White who siphens 599 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: away a lot of short yardage type plays. So I 600 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: mean there's like a lot of guys who can keep it, 601 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: but no one like really great. Obviously, Thornton, to your point, 602 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: is going to stand out because he has that kind 603 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: of speed that no one else on that team has. 604 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean Tyreek Hill four point nine forty that was 605 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: an unofficial time when West Alabama's Pro Day, so just 606 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: as fast as him. I don't expect him necessarily to 607 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: make that kind of impact, but I mean he's almost 608 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: six foot three, very athletic. Any players particularly come to 609 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: mind when you think of Thornton. 610 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: Not really, but I do want to say the hands, 611 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: I like we talked about hands Taekwon Thornton eight in 612 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: a quarter inch hands like that's right, and six to. 613 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: Three like that's an interesting combo. 614 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: Right, He's just kind of a question mark. So like, 615 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 3: is he a guy that's going to open things up 616 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 3: for the offense, Yes, But are you going to trust 617 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: mister eight and a quarter in chance with those contested 618 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: catch opportunities? Probably not, So I do I really just 619 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 3: wonder is Taekwon Thornton that speed demon that opens things 620 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: up for the offense but doesn't have the impact for fantasy? 621 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking of Taekwon Thornton at this point. 622 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he's a guy that had about twenty 623 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: two hundred receiving yards and nineteen touchdowns over four seasons 624 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: forty two games for Baylor, So it's not like he 625 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: had crazy college production either, which is partly why. I mean, 626 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: he's a freak athletically, but that's partly why he just 627 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: wasn't that high on most people's draft boards except for 628 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: you know, Bill Belichick. But the one guy that comes 629 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: to mind to me is like I would say, he's 630 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: a taller Will Fuller. Will Fuller was like six six 631 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: to blazing fast speed for three forty so he's kind 632 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: of like the only guy that I could think of 633 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: that maybe profiles similar because like guys that tall don't 634 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: always run that fast, So like those are kind of 635 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: like the only things that I could think of. But 636 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if to like that. 637 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: And I would say, like will Fuller feels like a 638 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 3: really nice vibe, but like a less polished, less refined 639 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: will Fuller. But like will Fuller is the guy that 640 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: hasn't always had perfect hands either, so maybe that's maybe 641 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: that's the perfect pomp. 642 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably his ceiling too. So speaking of that, 643 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: give me something a prediction about Thornton's year one for fantasy. 644 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: It sounds like you're not optimistic about him right now. 645 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: ADP wise, he's also not a guy that's listed on 646 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: the top one twenty one. 647 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: This is going to be, I think, another player that 648 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: maybe puts up a couple of like just really solid 649 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: performances and then we rapid react pick him up off waivers, 650 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: try to plug him into our lineups, and then we 651 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: never see the light of day again because our fantasy 652 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: teams have crumbled. Like Taekwon Thornton, I think he'll have 653 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: at least a good game, maybe two good games, But 654 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 3: I worry about the reliability factor, the consistency there. So 655 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 3: he's definitely like, maybe, if you're in a best Ball league, 656 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: could be a really intriguing, very late round pick. But 657 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: for any league that I'm setting my lineup, I can't 658 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: fathom a situation where he's actually playable on a week 659 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 3: to week basis. 660 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna have that Sammy Watkins game at some 661 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: point where it's like, yes, three touchdowns or something, and 662 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: then we'll never hear from him again. 663 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: That's exactly what it feels like. I think we both 664 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head there. 665 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: All right, well, let us move on to our favorite 666 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: receiver of today's podcast that it's maybe George Pickens. He 667 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually a Georgia fan, so I was actually pretty 668 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: surprised to see how late he slipped in this draft. 669 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: Draft position over under kind of put him right right 670 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: on the first round bubble. He fell kind of to 671 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: the late second partially due to health concerns. Do you 672 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: I mean in terms of landing spot and general player 673 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: about like, do you think that the Steelers got to 674 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: steal for Pickens at number fifty two overall? I do? 675 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know how many of your listeners, 676 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 3: you know, participate in like college football DeBie leagues where 677 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: you know you're drafting like these college prospects way before 678 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 3: they make it to the NFL. But like way back 679 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: in the day, and by back in the day, I 680 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: mean like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, George Pickens was considered 681 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 3: one of the top wide receivers in this class. You know, 682 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: tours ACL, tried to make it comeback, didn't quite look himself, 683 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 3: and I think that that. 684 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 2: That really hurt him. 685 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 3: Like I think he might have actually gotten higher if 686 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 3: we never saw him in the twenty twenty one season, 687 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: which is kind of crazy, but I think the Pittsburgh 688 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,479 Speaker 3: Steelers are really kind of an interesting offense. Like we've 689 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: seen plenty of production from the receiving corps despite like 690 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 3: just really crap offenses out of Pittsburgh in the last 691 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 3: three seasons. So I think the opportunity's definitely there for 692 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 3: him to make a huge impact. 693 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: The question for me, at least. 694 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 3: Comes in twenty twenty two in terms of, you know, 695 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 3: as Pittsburgh navigates this quarterback situation, what does that look 696 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 3: like for George Pickens? What does that look like for 697 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson because I still think it's the Deontay Johnson Show. 698 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: I agree with you there. Yeah, in terms of landing 699 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: spot grate, I'm going to give them like a B 700 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: minus now, and this is for twenty twenty two because, 701 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, there's just that glaring boy at quarterback. 702 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean, is it going to be? You tell me, 703 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: is this going to be some kind of training camp 704 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: battle between Mitch Trubisky, Kenny Bigott, and Mason Rudolph. I'm 705 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: serious to see. 706 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: It really could be, and I think, like if it's me, 707 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 3: I was actually probably more disappointed in the Kenny Pickett 708 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 3: pick than anybody. I'm just not a huge Kenny Pickett fan. 709 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 3: The Steelers, I feel like, are a very emotional team 710 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: and they draft with their heart. Sometimes they make like 711 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 3: decisions with their heart, and sometimes I think that bites 712 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,439 Speaker 3: them in the button. I think Kenny Pickett, the hometown boy, 713 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 3: the hometown hero, the fifth year breakout at pitt who 714 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 3: just brought it all together for them. It was a 715 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 3: nice story, and I think the Steelers are just a 716 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 3: team that is prone to playing into that. But I 717 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 3: genuinely think this will be a quarterback battle. Like Mitch Trubisky. 718 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 3: If I'm the Steelers, I'm wanting to see what he 719 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 3: can do because I do think I mean, we've already 720 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 3: seen him, you know, with a strong defense in tow 721 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 3: bring a team to the playoffs. Like, I think he's 722 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 3: a suitable game manager. He's not gonna go out and 723 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 3: I think win you a lot of weeks, but I 724 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 3: think he can help lead you and your team to 725 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 3: some wins. Of Kenny Pickett's kind of a shot in 726 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 3: the dark for me, but I can absolutely imagine Kenny 727 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: Pickett winning this job. You know, at Mitt Trubisky might 728 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 3: have it in camp, but I do think we see 729 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett year one, And I mean, who knows what 730 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 3: we're going to see out of out of Kenny Pickett 731 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 3: if we're going to see a high powered passing offense 732 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 3: from those tiny hands. 733 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm not so high on George Pickens uh year one. 734 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: We still have to see him really return from that 735 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: torn acl and look fully healthy. But just the overall. 736 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: Weapons in that offense that they have at this point, 737 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 3: I think there's enough there to sustain some fantasy value 738 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 3: across the board. 739 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know there's there's going to be a 740 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: lot of targets vacated with Juju go on and everything 741 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: like that. So even though I think Deantay Johnson's going 742 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: to be a total star, he'll get he'll definitely get 743 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: some targets out there, and you know his positive attributes. 744 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: He's got a great build, six foot three, one ninety five. 745 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 1: He's going to stack up really well against those NFL cornerbacks. 746 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: And his size didn't seem to be a hindrance at 747 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: the combine, I mean four point four to seven forty 748 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: yard dash. His route running seems to be pretty decent. Yeah, 749 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean the health is definitely been an issue. He 750 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: had not that much playing time at Georgia, so he's 751 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: kind of viewed even though he comes from one of 752 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: those great programs is raw talent, which is not something 753 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: that like a lot you know, you hear that alive, 754 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 1: like someone's coming out of North Dakota State or something 755 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: like that, like Christian Watson. But yeah, so, I mean 756 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of unknowns combined that with you know, 757 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation it is. There's there's a decently wide 758 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: number of outcomes here. Who comes to mind when you 759 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: think of Pickens. I'll give you two that came to 760 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 1: mind Julio Jones and Mike Williams. Do you like either 761 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: of those? 762 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 3: I like Julio Jones better than Mike Williams. And I 763 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 3: think the size definitely is a big help. Like I think, potentially, 764 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: even if we don't see him necessarily get a huge 765 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 3: target share, I could picture him coming in Gear one 766 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 3: and scoring touchdowns like kind of like Friarmooth did in 767 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 3: his season to start. I think the size is going 768 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 3: to give him that opportunity and you know, be that 769 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,479 Speaker 3: sort of red zone threat right off the bat. 770 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: I like that for twenty twenty two. Give me a 771 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: prediction about Pickens year one for fantasy and do you 772 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: buy or sell him at his current EDP of wide 773 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: for sixty seven. 774 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 2: I'll actually buy at his current ADP. 775 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 3: Again, I think this is a guy that can come 776 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 3: in and maybe put up like six seven eight touchdowns 777 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 3: right off. 778 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 2: The bat, especially just due to his size. 779 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 3: Due to the fact that, you know, I think this 780 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 3: is a team that develops wide receivers very well. 781 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 2: Just a solid situation to land in. 782 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 3: I think, you know, despite the questions at quarterback, I 783 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 3: do like there's going to be enough offensive production to 784 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 3: sustain some fantasy value there, So I think I would 785 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 3: definitely say he falls as like a fringe wide receiver 786 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,919 Speaker 3: four wide receiver five for me, but definitely a guy 787 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 3: that I think is probably going to win you more 788 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 3: weeks with the touchdowns than he is necessarily the volume 789 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 3: right off the bat. 790 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't I don't have two Rosie 791 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: of an outlook right just for twenty twenty two, I 792 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: think he's a great dynasty pick, but like I feel 793 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: like he would have to leap frog Chase Claypool on 794 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: the depth chart for him to really like reach his 795 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: ceiling for fantasy for this season, which, like, given sort 796 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 1: of the things with the injuries and just him being 797 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: not having as much sort of experience at the college level, 798 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: I think it could be it could take a little longer. 799 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: So for twenty twenty two, I'm probably going to sell 800 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 1: him at his ADP, but I'm excited for him as 801 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: a prospect for you guys. All right, let us move 802 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: on to Alec Pearce from the Colts. So it is 803 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: the the Jonathan Taylor Show in Indianapolis. But with the 804 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: off season upgrades at quarterback, you know, like, how do 805 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: the Colts rank for you? As a landing spot for Pierce. 806 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 3: They actually rank pretty well. I think though it is 807 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 3: The JT Show, it's definitely you know, an offense that 808 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 3: I think is going to benefit from the upgrade at quarterback. 809 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 3: But also, you know, despite the focus on the run, 810 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 3: that does tend to open things up for a more 811 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 3: efficient passing game. 812 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 2: Matt Ryan we can't see. 813 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 3: I think, much lower than we saw him in Atlanta 814 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 3: last season, like barely through twenty touchdowns. Like I think 815 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 3: that feels like a really low ceiling of expectations for 816 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 3: Matt Ryan. I think we see a bounce back just 817 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 3: overall with the nice balance they've struck there. I really 818 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 3: like Michael Pittman, but I think Alec Pierce, you know, 819 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 3: is a super interesting addition because he brings so much 820 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: in terms of his athleticism ranked ninetieth percentile in the 821 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 3: broad jump, ninety third percentile in the vertical jump, like 822 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 3: so explosive, eighty second percentile in the forty yard dash, 823 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 3: Like this is a killer athlete with the potential to 824 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 3: really kind of take the top off of things. Then 825 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 3: you know, just I don't know, play play more athletically 826 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 3: than maybe he would, you know, for his size, specifically six' 827 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 3: three to be that kind of athlete at six three 828 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 3: and have that kind of explosiveness six, three two. Eleven 829 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 3: Like I'm i'm feeling, That i'm liking. 830 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: That, YEAH i just love these big. Receivers in terms 831 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: Of Matt, RYAN i, mean it was an interesting little 832 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: like experiment to see what it's like to give someone 833 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 1: no offensive line and no receivers for an entire. 834 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 3: Season worst experience and worst experiment That Matt ryan has 835 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 3: ever partaken. 836 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 2: In, Forgan, yeah it. 837 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: Was cool to see At Corderill patterson. BREAKOUT i did 838 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: not have that necessarily on my bingo. Card but like you, 839 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: know this has got to be an upgrade For Matt, 840 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: ryan and it's got to be an upgrade for The. 841 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: Colts even at the ripe page of thirty, six he's an. 842 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: Upgrade so, yeah And Michael pittman's going to be his 843 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: main competition for. Targets but it's pretty shallow after. THAT i, 844 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: mean we've Got Zach pascal and T Y hilton who 845 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 1: have just not been. DURABLE i, mean T Y hilton 846 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: is quite old at this, point but like you can't 847 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: imagine that they're going to be playing too too much 848 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: so he seems to be the incumbent number two at this, 849 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: point assuming that you know he. Can he he does 850 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: well at camp and makes that rapport With, ryan and, 851 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: yeah he's just got an exciting sort of athletic and physical. 852 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: Build and in addition to, that he was just really. 853 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: Satile he played inside and outside for the Bear, cats 854 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: which will be really awesome even if he doesn't really 855 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 1: line up, Inside LIKE i just think having that ability 856 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: and having that like route running sort of prowess is 857 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: is really invaluable at this. Level player cop Aj green 858 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: six four two, eleven you know forty that that's The 859 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: that's the person that came to mind for. 860 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 2: Me that's actually an interesting. 861 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 3: ONE i did have a player comp for him THAT 862 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 3: i ACTUALLY i kind of, LIKE i. 863 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: Didn't mean to steal your. 864 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 2: Thunder, no it's, OKAY i actually like that. 865 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 3: One the other one THAT i was gonna roll with 866 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 3: WAS Dj shark okay wide receiver currently with The, lions 867 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 3: but you, know PLAYED i think pretty well for The 868 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 3: Jacksonville jaguars in his second. Season prospect out OF lsu 869 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 3: kind of again came in as one of these like 870 00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 3: bigger athletic guys who you know have that those explosive of, 871 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 3: elements AND i think that that sort of fits What 872 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 3: Alec pierce is going to. Do you, KNOW i kind 873 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 3: of wonder, too like what are we going to see from? 874 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 3: Him just overall in terms of a volume right out 875 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 3: of the, Gate i'm not sure that he's going to 876 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 3: see a ton of. Volume you Have Nim hines, too 877 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 3: WHO i think is going to be a big part 878 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 3: of this offense this. Year Michael pittman who had his big. 879 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 3: Breakout we know they like to utilize the tight, end 880 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 3: though there are plenty of question marks as to you 881 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 3: know what that's going to look. Like we we don't 882 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 3: Have Jack doyle? Anymore is it THE Molei cox? Show 883 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 3: LIKE i Like Alec pierce the, PROSPECT i really like 884 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 3: the landing. SPOT i don't know what it's going to 885 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 3: look like year, One So I'm i'm not as bullish 886 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 3: on him in year one AS i would. Be, again 887 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 3: like A Garrett wilson WHO i think might have some 888 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 3: more more immediate showings in. 889 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: Fantasy, YEAH i, MEAN i think when you're getting to 890 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: those late, rounds like he could be worth adding as 891 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: a very late round flyer or in a deeper league for, 892 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: Sure like he'll go drafted in my sixteen team league for. 893 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: Sure but you, know like it's more of a thing 894 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: like down the, Line LIKE i don't know that he's 895 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna have that wide receiver three or four upside in week, 896 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: one but, maybe you, know like halfway through the season 897 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: he starts to sort of. EMERGE i could see him 898 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: being as like a little bit of a slower. Start 899 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: he's like a guy that if you have a deeper, 900 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: BENCH i would like to. Stash, Yeah i'm not thinking 901 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: even as an immediate, starter sixty six receivers in your 902 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: league are going off the, board like you're you're just 903 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: taking shots at that. 904 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 3: Point, yeah there's there's not a lot of risk baked 905 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 3: into THAT, adp which is very. Nice AND i, think 906 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 3: like again going back to like the quarterback play, specifically 907 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,919 Speaker 3: we've Seen Matt ryan be able to sustain offenses with 908 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 3: plenty Of fantasy relevant assets. Here you, know we saw 909 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 3: him Support Austin hooper Alongside Julio, jones Alongside Calvin. Ridley, 910 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 3: like if they get this this recipe right In, indy 911 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 3: WHICH i think they have the coaching staff to, DO 912 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 3: i think they have. 913 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 2: The general framework to. 914 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 3: DO i think all of the assets that you want 915 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 3: are are, there BUT i just don't Think Alec pearce 916 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 3: is necessarily as polished to make the media impact their. 917 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 1: Enough all, right we are onto our file Receiver skymore 918 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,760 Speaker 1: to The. Chiefs this is a really interesting one BECAUSE 919 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: i actually thought he had he was like right on 920 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: the bubble. TOO i think for like projection, wise to 921 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: go maybe as like a late, first early second and 922 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: he obviously fell to The chiefs late in the second 923 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,760 Speaker 1: round in terms of a landing. Spot obviously With Tyreek 924 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: hill gone catching passes From Patrick, WHANS i, mean does 925 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: it get much better than that for? 926 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 2: You it really. 927 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 3: Doesn't and this is one of these prospects WHO i 928 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 3: think right now is kind of like the hot guy In. 929 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 3: Dynasty i'm not projecting him to have his media in 930 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 3: an impact despite the departure Of Tyreek. Hill you, KNOW 931 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 3: i kind of project Sky moore as like that slot, 932 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 3: receiver AND i do Think Juju Smith schuster is going 933 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,439 Speaker 3: to do a lot of work. There BUT i, mean 934 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 3: like long, term it's you're going to find offensive production 935 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 3: with The Kansas City. Chiefs you're tied to the best 936 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 3: quarterback in THE. Nfl for at least the full length 937 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 3: of your rookie. Contract it is really surprising to see 938 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 3: how far Sky moore slipped because they did think, that you, 939 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 3: know he was possibly a pick for The chiefs at 940 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 3: the end of the first, round so to see them 941 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 3: get him at pick number fifty four was kind of 942 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 3: kind of wild for. Me BUT i do think, that you, 943 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 3: know he's got enough, speed he's just got A i 944 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 3: think he's a really well balanced wide receiver and just 945 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,919 Speaker 3: again one of maybe the more capable guys that fell 946 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 3: in this. Range LIKE i would take Sky moore probably 947 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 3: over let's, see in, redraft Like Alec. Gears i'd take 948 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 3: him Over George. Pickens i'd take him Over Taekwon, thornon 949 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 3: just for that that upside alone of being tied To Patrick. 950 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 3: Mahomes despite the questions of, like where are all these 951 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 3: pieces gonna fit Without Tyreek, Hill that's my biggest question 952 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 3: there for this. 953 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 1: Offense, YEAH i, AGREE i, Mean i'm giving them an a, 954 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: plus and one could argue that he got the best 955 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: landing spot of this. Draft LIKE i the only one 956 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 1: THAT i think you could make an argument for would 957 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: Be Green bay And Christian. WATSON i mean obviously the 958 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 1: upside mostly coming from the. Quarterback Patrick home's astronomical upside 959 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 1: there and to your, point under contract until twenty thirty, 960 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: one so there's a lot of long term value. THERE 961 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 1: i don't know how the targets are going to kind 962 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: of shake. Out, uh he's got ten and a quarter, 963 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:21,280 Speaker 1: inchans which is pretty new seven percentile that's, crazy pretty. 964 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,280 Speaker 1: Impressive or a guy that's small but pretty pretty strong 965 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: showing at the combine overall four point four to one 966 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: forty yard, Gosh so he's got a lot of like the. 967 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: PIECES i just really the upside for me comes from 968 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: the system. Itself what receiver do you think profiles closest 969 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: to More. 970 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 3: To be, clear he's like my comp is Not Tyreek, 971 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 3: Kill BUT i think in terms of what he does 972 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 3: after the catch and his like movement abilities and, SHIFTINESS 973 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 3: i think that kind of reminds me of what The 974 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 3: chiefs want to replace In Tyreek. 975 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 2: Hill, again not my. 976 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 3: Comp he's he's, bigger he is not as, Fast he's, 977 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 3: like he's Not Tyreek. Hill but When i'm watching him 978 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 3: after the catch and his ability to maneuver and get 979 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 3: get around things and just be. Elusive ranked first among 980 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 3: wide receivers in twenty twenty one and miss tackles force 981 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 3: like he's just once you get the ball in his, 982 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,280 Speaker 3: hands similar to A Tyreek. 983 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 2: HILL i think he's really really hard to. 984 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,959 Speaker 3: Beat so that's again my not my comp but sort 985 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,439 Speaker 3: of my comp fish fair. 986 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: ENOUGH i had, sense, no it does? It? Does it definitely. 987 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 1: DOES i struggled with this what ACTUALLY i just MAYBE 988 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: i don't Know more enough as a prospect to really 989 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 1: come up with a good. One BUT i came up 990 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: With Golden tate Or Antonio, brown which neither of those 991 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: are really perfect, analogs but that's pretty much where my brain. 992 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: Is those are kind of like a little bit undersized 993 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: type guys with decent. Speeds So more does line up 994 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 1: sort of both inside and. OUTSIDE i think his size 995 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 1: is maybe going to have him profile more as an inside, 996 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: receiver but we shall see sort of how The chiefs 997 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,240 Speaker 1: end up deploying. 998 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 3: Him, like both of those are guys that you wouldn't 999 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 3: say win because of their, size but it's in the 1000 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,240 Speaker 3: elusiveness of their their play style and like the magic 1001 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 3: once they get the ball in their. Hands SO i, 1002 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 3: think like that's a much better way of saying this 1003 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 3: comp than my nod To Tyreek, hill who like again 1004 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 3: physically does not profile like Sky moore. 1005 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 2: Whatsoever but the whole gist was, there, Right, Like. 1006 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: No that definitely made sense to. Me so all, right 1007 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: so we're obviously excited about him for year. ONE i, 1008 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: think you, know if he catches onto the system really 1009 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: well and makes that connection With Patrick, mahomes he has 1010 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 1: like wide receiver two three. UPSIDE i, mean he's he's 1011 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy that was a fringe first round pick that 1012 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: they nabbed in the lead second THAT i think that 1013 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: like that probably impacts people's opinion of him a little, 1014 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: bit but really. SHOULDN'T i think he just brings lots 1015 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: lots of upside with The mahomes. Connection it'll it'll take 1016 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 1: some time to, develop but you, know wide receiver sixty 1017 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: five in that same range to your point As Alec, 1018 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: pearce As George, pickens, Like i'm definitely buying him. 1019 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 3: There, yeah this is such an interesting draft class, too 1020 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 3: because so many of these wide receivers are being drafted 1021 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 3: right around, that like wide receiver Sixty, mark AND i 1022 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 3: think all of them have some upside here in terms 1023 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 3: of what they can even do year, one just based 1024 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 3: on talent, alone BUT i mean in terms of, situation 1025 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 3: it's really hard to come up with a rookie that 1026 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,919 Speaker 3: landed in a better, spot especially considering The Tyreek hill. 1027 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 2: Trade So i'm all about Sky. 1028 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: Moore all, right that'll do. IT i just want to 1029 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: get before you, LEAVE i want to get your top 1030 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: three of these players For redraft and top three For. 1031 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 3: Dynasty all, Right i'm actually going to go kind of boring, 1032 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 3: here so please bear with. Me i'm gonna go just For, 1033 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 3: Redraft i'll Do Trailon, burks WHICH i think is kind 1034 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 3: of the consensus, Here Garrett, wilson and then For, Upside 1035 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 3: i'm going to go with Sky moore BECAUSE i, think 1036 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 3: again just the, offense the potential with the absence Of Tyreek, 1037 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 3: Hill i'll take him. There For, Dynasty i'll Take Garrett, 1038 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 3: Wilson Traylon, burks and then again Sky. Moore i'm actually 1039 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 3: surprised That George pickens didn't make my top, three neither of. Them, 1040 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 3: so but again the question marks about The. Steelers my, 1041 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 3: gosh Darn steelers forced them down the. Ranks BUT i 1042 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 3: certainly hope that an improvement at maybe the quarterback, position 1043 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 3: hopefully maybe someday. 1044 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 2: We'll Rank George pickens up into the top. Three but 1045 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 2: that's that's my gist for. 1046 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: Now that is exactly HOW i had, It SO i 1047 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: feel really good knowing that you're on the same. Page, 1048 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 1: YEAH i would have just Swapped wilson And burkes for For, 1049 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: dynasty so it's the exact. SAME i think that that's 1050 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: pretty much the consensus so, Overall so, yeah it's it's 1051 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,959 Speaker 1: going to be a super exciting class And i'm really 1052 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: excited overall to start. Drafting i'm sure you've been in 1053 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: lots of drafts. Already i've done. Some i've done a 1054 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 1: few of the eliminator drafts for. Sure but that'll do so. 1055 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Fun that'll Do for today's episode OF Nfc Wide Receiver, Rookies, 1056 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: KAY i cannot thank you enough for taking the time 1057 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: to come on the show. Today please let everyone know 1058 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: where they can find you the soft season and. Beyond. 1059 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely you guys can follow me On twitter at 1060 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 3: ff Ball. Blast put out a weekly, podcast the Ball 1061 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 3: Blast fantasy football. 1062 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 2: Podcast Ball blast. 1063 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 3: Is one, word help you blast the balls of your league. 1064 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Mates in terms of written, CONTENT i post some stuff On, 1065 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 3: twitter but a lot of my stuff you'll find over 1066 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 3: At DraftKings, nation so be sure to check us out over, 1067 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 3: there and we're gonna have a good. Season this is 1068 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 3: going to be a really fun season to. WATCH i 1069 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 3: can't wait to go back to these conversations last year 1070 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 3: and see how these rookies panned, out because just such 1071 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 3: an interesting class we have. 1072 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:48,439 Speaker 2: Here. 1073 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, ABSOLUTELY i think there was a kind of an 1074 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: overall sentiment at the draft that there were so many 1075 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: guys that like they could either go in one round 1076 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: or they could go through rounds. Later like it was 1077 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 1: an interesting sort of like we have no idea where 1078 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: these prospects are going to, go and like even now 1079 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: that they're, drafted there is just so much. Intrigue SO 1080 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: i think that that's what makes it more. Fun like 1081 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 1: some people want a predictable sort of fantasy, season BUT 1082 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: i want the, chaos SO i am all here for. 1083 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: It thank you, Again kate for coming. ON i do 1084 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: not forget to rate and review our podcast for a 1085 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 1: chance to win a free pro, account and we will 1086 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: see you next time on The Fantasy Flac Peak out, 1087 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: y'all