1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,079 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Amy Morris. Here are the 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 3: The drop in futures follows another record close on highs 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 3: for US stocks and a disappointing after the bell forecast 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: from Intel. The shares of the chip maker are plunging 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: twelve percent in early trading. Intel's first quarter projection for 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 3: both sales and profit came in well short of Wall 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: Street estimates. Dan Morgan is a portfolio manager with Sinovis Trust. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 4: The guideance going into the first quarter is disappointing, even 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: if you look at the midpoint of that range at 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 4: the game and revenues, and the came at twelve point 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 4: seven billion. Street was at fourteen point two billion, and 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: then that EPs number was a big mess. 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: Dan Morgan of Sinov's Trust notes the chip maker's personal 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: computer business is recovering, but demand is weakening in the 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: lucrative market for data center. 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: Chips, and we're also seeing shares of Visa fall. In 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: early trading, all of the world's biggest payments network posted 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: profit above estimates. It forecasts low double digit revenue growth 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: and diluted earnings per share to grow in the low 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: teens the stock had closed at a record high before 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: the earnings. 24 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: And Amy earnings are front in center in Europe as well. 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: Let's go to London get the latest with Bloomberg Stephen Carrol, Stephen. 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 5: Good morning, Nathan and Amy. Better than expected sales figures 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 5: from LVMH have champagne corks popping on European markets, investors 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 5: seeing the resilience from the world's largest luxury conglomerate as 29 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 5: a positive sign for the sector. The sentiment driving shares 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 5: higher not only for LVMH, but also rivals kerring Ermez 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 5: and Richemont. Another top performing stock in Europe is drinks 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 5: maker Remi Quantro. That's despite reporting falling sales, investors instead 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 5: focused on cost cutting plans and hopes the Cognac slump 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: may have bottomed out. 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 6: In London. 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 5: Stephen Carrol, Bloomberg Radio. 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: All right, thanks Steven. Back here in the US, we're 38 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: seeing major changes at Apple. The company is embarking on 39 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: an historic overhaul of its iOS Safarian app store offerings 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: in the European Union, Mark German covers Apple for Bloomberg 41 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: in San Francisco, So I would say. 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 7: These changes are historic. For the first time, Apple is 43 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 7: going to allow users and again this is EU specific 44 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 7: to install third party app stores. So you'll be able 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 7: to install maybe an app store from Epic Games, maybe 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 7: from Microsoft met maybe from Meta, replace the app store 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 7: from Apple on the phone, and install applications to get 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 7: those third party programs. So that's the biggest change. 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Mark German says the sweeping changes are coming in 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: March and is a direct response to the new EU 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: New Digital Markets Act, which imposes rigid restrictions on the 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: largest tech firms. 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: Turning to the economy, amy the US has pulled farther 54 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: ahead in the race to be the world's biggest. We 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: get the details from Bloomberg's Jeff Bellinger. 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 8: The US economy is emerging from the pandemic period in 57 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 8: a better place than China's, and you can thank the 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 8: vibrant American consumer. Gross domestic product rows six point three 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 8: percent in nominal terms, that is, unadjusted for inflation last year, 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 8: outpacing China is four point six percent gain. China has 61 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 8: been struggling under the weight of a year's long real 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 8: estate bust and its worst streak of deflation in some 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 8: twenty five years. The economic outperformance is also reflected in 64 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 8: the respective country stock markets. US shares have hit all 65 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 8: time highs this week, while Chinese equities are mired in 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 8: a six trillion dollar plus bear market route. Jeff Bullinger, 67 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Radio. 68 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeff, And speaking of the economy, we will 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: get a report this morning that is closely watched by 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: the FED. The core PCE deflator, the Fed's preferred inflation measure, 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: likely grew at a subdued pace in December. Economists are 72 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: forecasting a gain of two tenths of a percent. 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 9: Well. 74 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is putting out some positive words 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: about inflation, amy saying it is now well under control. 76 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 10: We were through a period in which inflation was high, 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 10: higher than we hid really seen since the late seven 78 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 10: or early eighties, but it has come down quickly. 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: Treasury Secretary Yelling ads Americans are also benefiting from wage 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: growth that now exceeds inflation. 81 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: On Capitol Hill, Senate Republican leaders are trying to salvage 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: a deal on Ukraine aid and border security. GOP negotiators 83 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: are concerned an impasse at the border would deny Ukraine 84 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: the sixty one billion dollars in aid that it's seeking 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 2: in its fight against Russia. Meanwhile, Texas is still putting 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: up razor wire at the border, even after the Supreme 87 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: Court and gave the Biden administration the go ahead to 88 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: cut it down. Texas Governor Greg Abbott, we. 89 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 11: Are going to make it impossible to enter Texas illegally, 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 11: and that includes maintaining the National Garland border, building more 91 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 11: border wall just like what President Trump put up, as 92 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 11: well as extending the razor wire wall in the state 93 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 11: of Texas. 94 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: Governor Greg Abbott tells Bloomberg the state has a constitutional 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: right to defend itself. You can hear more of our 96 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: conversation with the Texas governor on the Bloomberg Talks podcast. 97 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 3: And when it comes to those border togoas Amy, some 98 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 3: senators are concerned Donald Trump is inserting himself into the process. 99 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: Bloomberg zed Baxter has that part of the story. 100 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 12: Mitt Romney says this cannot happen. 101 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 9: Former President Trump is indicated to senators that he does 102 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 9: not want us to sell the pumbit the border. He 103 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 9: wants to lay the play of the border at Biden 104 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 9: and the idea that someone running for president would say, 105 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 9: please hurt the country so I can blame my opponent 106 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 9: and help my politics is a shocking development. 107 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 12: Now with Trump being perceived as the eventual GOP nominee, 108 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 12: of the question is will he insert himself into every 109 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 12: congressional battle Ed Baxter, Bloomberg Radio. 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 8: Thank you, Ed. 111 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: Closing arguments are set to begin later today in the 112 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: defamation case against Donald Trump. They come after the former 113 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: president left a Manhattan courtroom fuming after his three minute 114 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: testimony gave him little time to refute writer's sexual abuse claims. 115 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: Time now for a look at some of the other 116 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: stories making news around the world, and for that we're 117 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. 118 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 6: Good morning John, Good morning Amy. A moratorium this morning 119 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 6: from the White House, the Biden administration has halted the 120 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: approval of new licenses to export liquefied natural gas. This 121 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 6: gives the administration time to scrutinize how the shipments impact 122 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 6: climate change. The administration's pause comes as environmentalists have seized 123 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 6: on the projects as a litmus test to the President's 124 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 6: climate change commitment. Overnight, the state of Alabama executed death 125 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 6: row inmate Kenneth Smith, marking the first time in US 126 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 6: history nitrogen gas was used to carry out capital punishment. 127 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 6: The UN Human Rights Office called on Alabama to stop 128 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 6: the execution, noting there's no scientific evidence to prove that 129 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 6: execution by nitrogen inhalation will not cause grave suffering. General 130 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 6: Motor is blaming poor leadership for mishandling its Cruise Robotaxi crisis. 131 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 6: That story from Bloomberg's Charlie. 132 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 13: It is an admission the company is hoping we'll get 133 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 13: its cars back on the roads. A report by the 134 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 13: law firm Quinn Immanuel, which was paid by Cruise, outlines 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 13: how executives took an adversarial approach with regulators after one 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 13: of its autonomous cars struck and seriously injured a woman. 137 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 13: The incident led Cruise to halt its fleet nationwide, which 138 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 13: undercuts GMCEO Mary Barra's vision to transform the carmaker from 139 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 13: a twentieth century metal bender to a transportation company of 140 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 13: the future. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Radio. 141 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 6: Attorney General Merrick Garland spoke at an event marking the 142 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: start of a new foundation named at supporting mental health 143 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 6: and wellness for law enforcement officers. 144 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 14: Coverage through that program now extends to officers who are 145 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 14: permanently and totally disabled due to certain mental health disorders, 146 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 14: as well as to those who die by suicide as 147 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 14: a result of exposure to traumatic events that they encounter 148 00:07:59,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 14: while on duty. 149 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 6: Howie Lebengood Foundation, named after a Capitol police officer who 150 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 6: defended the building during the January sixth riot and done 151 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 6: by suicide three days later. It flew seventy two times. 152 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 6: It was only expended to fly five. NASA's Ingenuity Space 153 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 6: helicopter was deployed to the surface of Mars in two 154 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 6: thousand and one. NASA's now abounced the four pounds are 155 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 6: of vehicle has flown its last mission. Global news twenty 156 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 6: four hours a day, whenever you want it with Bloomberg 157 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 6: News Now. I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg Amy. 158 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, John, and we bring you news 159 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: throughout the day here on Bloomberg Radio. 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He had won thirty three matches 170 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 15: in a row. He was trounced by the fourth seed, 171 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 15: Jannick Sinner, twenty two year old from Italy, who won 172 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 15: sixty one, six, y two, six, seven, and then six 173 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 15: to three. He's the youngest finalist at the Australian Open 174 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 15: since Djokovic. In two thousand and eight, two NFL teams 175 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 15: named new coaches, the LNF Falcons going with Raheem Morris, 176 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 15: who had. 177 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 8: Been the defensive cordator of the Rams. 178 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 15: He actually was an Atlanta assistant from twenty fifteen to 179 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 15: twenty and the Falcons interim head coach. He was also 180 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 15: the coach of the Tampa Bay Bucks for three years. 181 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 15: Carolina Panthers going with a relative unknown, Dave Kanalis, who 182 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 15: had been coaching the offense at Tampa Bay. 183 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 8: He's only forty two years old. 184 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 15: He's spent thirteen years coaching with the Seahawks NBA blowout 185 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 15: in New York, Nicks All over the defending champion Nuggets 186 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 15: won twenty two to eighty four, far and away the 187 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 15: Nuggets worst loss season Celtics with a blowout win that 188 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 15: was in Miami won forty three to one ten seven 189 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 15: Celtics and double figures. Warriors at home lost by a 190 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 15: point to Sacramento won thirty four one thirty three. The 191 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 15: ex Warrior Harrison Barnes the career high thirty nine points. 192 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 15: Wizards lost at home to Utah once twenty three to 193 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 15: one o eight. The Wizard's making a coaching change, moving 194 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 15: west Untel junior to the front office. Ryan Keith, an 195 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 15: assistant coach, takes over for the rest of the season. 196 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 15: Bruins won in overtime at Ottawa three to two on 197 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 15: a Brad Marshan goal. Edmonton shut out Chicago. The Oilers 198 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 15: have won fifteen in a row. John Stashed. We're Bloomberg Sports. 199 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 16: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 200 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 16: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on sirisxam, the Bloomberg Business 201 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 16: app in Bloomberg dot com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 202 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 8: Good morning. 203 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager. The frenzy around cutting edge technology and 204 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: artificial intelligence may be leaving some big tech names behind. 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: This morning, we're talking about Intel. It is tumbling in 206 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 3: early trading after delivering a sales and profit forecast that 207 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: came in well short of Wall Street expectations. For more 208 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: on these earnings and the text story going forward, we're 209 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: joined by Bloomberg's Pritty Gupta Critty. What's holding Intel back? 210 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 17: A little bit of everything? And you know, this is 211 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 17: so much pressure that Intel and Pad Gelsinger at the 212 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 17: helm of it really has to live up to remember 213 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 17: you for the last i want to say, two or 214 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 17: three years, even in kind of the epitome of that 215 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 17: chip gold that we had in twenty twenty one, where 216 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 17: supply chain issues were really the focus. You had this 217 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 17: major concern that Intel was not pulling its weight in 218 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 17: terms of the chip sector, and Pad Gelsinger at the 219 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 17: helmet it said, look, this is going to be our 220 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 17: turnaround story. We are going to be the comeback kid 221 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 17: of the chip sector. And that's exactly what's not happening. 222 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 17: Let me walking through the numbers here, Nathan, because they're 223 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 17: pretty substantial. It's their first quarter forecast that's really worrying 224 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 17: a lot of people here. The revenue coming in about 225 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 17: twelve point two billion to thirteen point two billion. That's 226 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 17: the forecast for what this first quarter is supposed to 227 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 17: look like for them. But the estimate, the Wall Street estimate, 228 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 17: was fourteen point three billions, so they're almost missing that 229 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 17: by somewhere between one to two billion dollars. That is 230 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 17: a very big margin to be missing from. It also 231 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 17: has to do a lot when it comes to their 232 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 17: actual business model and the when we think of Intel, 233 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 17: we kind of think of them as their old guard 234 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 17: tech and instead they've actually been trying to compete with 235 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 17: likes of Advanced micro Devices AMD or otherwise or Nvidia 236 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 17: for example, that really been going headfirst into the AI sector. 237 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 17: So Intel has been saying, look, traditionally we look at PCs, 238 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 17: maybe we should be focusing and set on the data 239 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 17: centers that are meant to power the AI story. And 240 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 17: that's where they're saying that those that investment the sales 241 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 17: there fell ten percent in the fourth quarter, So not 242 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 17: only are they not growing, they're actually able to keep 243 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,479 Speaker 17: up the momentum that they currently have, they're actually contracting. 244 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 17: So it's kind of a bag of negativity when it 245 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 17: comes to the Intel story. 246 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 3: So does this mean that the names that we've heard 247 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: of elsewhere in Vidia, AMD, these names that have built 248 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 3: so much excitement around the idea of artificial intelligence and 249 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: gotten a lot of investors jazzed up. Are they just 250 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: running away with this and Intel's getting left behind? 251 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 17: Well, they've got a little bit of a different dynamic here. 252 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 17: Vidia think about it as a much larger company that 253 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 17: Intel is the same with advanced micro devices. AMD actually 254 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 17: was one of the early players in terms of really 255 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 17: solidifying that AI presence. Remember they actually partnered with meta 256 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 17: platforms early on when Mark Zuckerberg's that he wanted to 257 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 17: dive in to the metaverse, and AMD kind of glatched 258 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 17: onto that. Story. Pad Gelsinger over at, Intel's dealing with 259 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 17: a little bit of a different issue, and it really 260 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 17: comes down to manufacturing capability. Remember, Intel was one of 261 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 17: the chief names that President Joe Biden has really been 262 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 17: focusing on when it comes to bringing some of the 263 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 17: chip manufacturing capacity back onto US soil. What that does 264 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 17: is make chips a little bit more expensive. It can 265 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 17: also mean losing customers in the process. So what Intel 266 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 17: has done is actually doubled down on their manufacturing operations 267 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 17: really putting tens of billions of dollars into US factories 268 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 17: as well, And that's something that some of their rivals 269 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 17: aren't doing because they are still doing a lot of 270 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 17: that production out of Taiwan, out of South Korea. Intel 271 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 17: kind of changing the game on that front, and by 272 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 17: the way, making investments that really only going to pay 273 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 17: ten twenty years. 274 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: Down the road. 275 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 17: So they're dealing with a different set of issues. But 276 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 17: net Nathan, you're right, they are falling behind. 277 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: So what about that longer term outlook? When you see 278 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: a short term outlook like this that so disappoints Wall Street, 279 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: what does that mean for things when it comes to 280 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: Pad Gelsinger's turnaround plans longer term? 281 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 17: Well, look, he's still trying to enlist a lot of confidence. 282 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 17: If you look at on the commentary that came out 283 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 17: with this earning story, he is saying, look, this is 284 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 17: a first quarter story only if you look at their projections, 285 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 17: they are meant to kind of dip first and then recover. 286 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 17: But the problem is, there is a credibility issue here, 287 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 17: There's a believability issue here because Pat Gelsinger is also 288 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 17: on this kind of campaign to re ensure a lot 289 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 17: of investors and a lot of the folks that are 290 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 17: investing Intel not to mention the American government that they 291 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 17: can't actually pull the off. The problem here is just 292 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 17: that that initial number, the margin is so low, or 293 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 17: actually so large, that the drop in revenue is so 294 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 17: low that you are starting to see real issues when 295 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 17: it comes to Okay, well, not only are you going 296 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 17: to make up the margin you're missing in the first quarter, 297 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 17: but you also have to then grow by a substantial 298 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 17: amount to catch up to your competitors. And that's really 299 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 17: where they're facing a lot of the hurdles. 300 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: So in our last thirty seconds, what could we see 301 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: going forward from Intel, Well, if still. 302 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 17: This campaign about believability, they basically have to prove that 303 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 17: their way is the right way, that this comeback story 304 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 17: is not over yet and they can't actually deliver on 305 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 17: it at a time when the AI story and AI 306 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 17: investment story is moving very very quickly, and it comes 307 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 17: down to the fact of where do you want to 308 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 17: put your weight behind the traditional PC business that has 309 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 17: proved very lucrative or this kind of new fangled AI story. 310 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg day Break today, your morning brief on 311 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,119 Speaker 1: the story's making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 312 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast by six am Eastern 313 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: each morning, on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you get 314 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: your podcasts. 315 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 316 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: am Wall Street time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 317 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine one in Washington, Bloomberg 318 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: one oh six y one in Boston, and Bloomberg ninety 319 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: sixty in San Francisco. 320 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 321 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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