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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. It is a beautiful yet somewhat

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Speaker 2: chilly day here. Yeah, it's where it's a fall type

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Speaker 2: day here. And well, I'm here with Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly and lots of stuff to get to

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Speaker 2: from the Mike Tomlin press conference today, Matt as he

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Speaker 2: went down a laundry list of injuries. But before we

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Speaker 2: get to the injuries, let's talk quarterback situation. I guess

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Speaker 2: that's kind of an injury as well. Go. I suppose

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's saying today that Russell Wilson will be a

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Speaker 2: full participant in tomorrow's practice. That will be the first

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Speaker 2: one of the week for the Steelers. Not going to

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Speaker 2: make any commitments at all to Russell Wilson at this

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Speaker 2: point until he sees how he feels on Thursday, and then,

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Speaker 2: as he said, well, the week be our guide. The plan, however,

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Speaker 2: is to get justin fields ready to start this week

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Speaker 2: because again, you don't know how Russell Wilson is going

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Speaker 2: to respond. Yeah, get them full full day of practice

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Speaker 2: and maybe the you know, get through this whole week

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Speaker 2: of full practices. Maybe Russell Wilson's your two on Sunday

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas and then from there.

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Speaker 3: You know, so he could be the one, he could

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Speaker 3: be the two, he could be the three. It sounds

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Speaker 3: like it is.

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Speaker 2: And if he's the two in Las Vegas, there's also

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Speaker 2: a chance that he plays interesting.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to really respond to that. I

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Speaker 3: think we've seen it coming. It'll be interesting what he

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Speaker 3: does and who he does it with.

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Speaker 2: Tom already said that he's going to work with the

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Speaker 2: twos because again, you have to get justin fields ready.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday is game plan install. You start installing your game

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Speaker 2: plan for the following week, so you can't split the

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Speaker 2: snaps between those two guys.

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Speaker 3: So, folks, if you put fields with the twos and

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Speaker 3: then Wilson can't go on Sunday, then the field didn't

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Speaker 3: get the proper work.

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Speaker 2: The same thing happened in week one where Wilson's the starter,

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Speaker 2: takes all the snaps on Wednesday. As the starter, yeah,

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Speaker 2: comes in Thursday, gets in the practice and the you know,

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Speaker 2: the aggravates, it aggravates the calf injury or aggravated itself.

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Speaker 2: And when he showed up on Thursday, well, now you've

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Speaker 2: wasted a day of prep on a guy who's not

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Speaker 3: Field doesn't throw into the top guys and isn't with

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Speaker 2: And again the game prep for NFL teams, they have

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Speaker 2: essentially six hours to implement this stuff. It's very very little.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're not counting the film time and the

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Speaker 2: off the field stuff, but on field training they've got

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Speaker 2: six hours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean behind the scenes, everyone's doing the same stuff.

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Speaker 3: All the quarterbacks are watching the same tape. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they can do stuff on their own, but the teachers

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Speaker 3: up at the blackboard and they're in class basically, you know.

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Speaker 3: And on the field it's very limited, very very limited,

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Speaker 3: I mean. And speaking of limited, if a player is limited,

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Speaker 3: they might get three hours and not six or you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. So so it's all Wilson gets everything,

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Speaker 2: So Thursday actually will be the big day for Russell

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Speaker 2: Wright because he'll do everything tomorrow. Yeah, they want to

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Speaker 2: see how it responds and from there we'll see how

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Speaker 3: It's not always sounds like calves are tricky, Like you

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Speaker 3: take three steps forward. Oh, he's fine. Then the he

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Speaker 3: aggravates it, you know, like before this opening day.

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Speaker 2: In the time leading up to that, from the time

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Speaker 2: There was nothing there for him to report in terms

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Speaker 2: and so now you're like, okay, this is something wrong. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so this time around, they went they've gone five weeks.

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Speaker 2: I heard people talk talking about and seeing stuff on

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Speaker 2: social media. Well, you know last week when he was limited,

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Speaker 2: Well he's still not running around or doing anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because that's what they're telling They don't want him doing

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Speaker 2: it to heal. Yeah, never be an issue ever again,

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Speaker 2: they do want to get him some time throwing the

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Speaker 3: Full go, yeah, you know, it's not. He will do

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Speaker 3: every drill like everybody else. He'll run his you know,

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Speaker 3: his normal.

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Speaker 2: Thing rollouts and playoffs season quarterback.

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Speaker 3: No one's going to hit them, and you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: but he's going to act as though for the first

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Speaker 2: With stepping up in the pocket doing all the stuff

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Speaker 3: And it's not like a broken bone where okay, we

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Speaker 3: said it, it's the old go yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's different. It's a soft tissue injury, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes they take they're just a little more tricky, both

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Speaker 2: broken bones. You know, when it's heeled exactly right on

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Speaker 2: six weeks, take an X ray, it's fine. Go It's

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Speaker 2: really not that much different than a concussion. As I

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Speaker 2: always say about concussions when people talk about why has

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Speaker 2: he out so long with the concussion. It's not like

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Speaker 2: you can crack his head open, pull and pull the

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Speaker 2: skull cap off and you go, yeah, that looks good.

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Speaker 3: That's fine, or put a band aid on it while

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Speaker 3: you're in there, you know, right, yeah, so it sounds

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Speaker 3: like there's a chance he's the starter, but tomorrow Fields

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Speaker 3: will be acting as the starter, yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 2: My guess would be, and again this is just a guess,

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Speaker 2: they end up starting Fields in Las veg Vegas just

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Speaker 2: because he, you know, is again the first day of

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Speaker 2: starter reps has gone to the fields. Now, they could

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Speaker 2: change it if Wilson comes out and looks great, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: yeah tomorrow, Yeah that could change. Yeah, and say subject

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Speaker 2: every day what the latest scuttle butt is I guess,

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Speaker 2: you know, or how they're being used. It will be

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Speaker 2: interesting though, if if Wilson is the two on Sunday, Yes,

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Speaker 2: if they get off to another slow start, would Mike

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Speaker 3: I would imagine he would be yeah, or insert them

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Speaker 3: is there a Wilson package? I mean, I think if

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 3: If he decides as the week goes on, Wilson's the one,

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Speaker 3: we still might see Fields, right, Yeah. I mean I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it should be true the other way around,

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Speaker 2: It certainly is, which you know, brings us to again

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Speaker 2: the George Pickens stuff, and Mike Tomlin was asked, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, there were probably twenty to twenty five questions

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Speaker 2: today in the in the entire press conference, and half

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Speaker 2: of them involved George Pickens. Really again, Mike Tomlin is saying,

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Speaker 2: this is a load management thing. And look when they

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Speaker 2: when they're trying to run the football a lot of times,

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Speaker 2: George Pickens isn't out there. He hadn't played one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent of the snaps.

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Speaker 3: No, No, most receivers don't.

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Speaker 2: He has been out there one hundred percent of the

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Speaker 2: time all season long when they're in eleven. So I

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Speaker 2: do think there is some credence to it when when

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Speaker 2: Tomlin said, look, there were some there was some stuff

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Speaker 2: out there where we want Van Jefferson out there blocking. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but folks, this is there's not a doubt in my

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Speaker 2: mind that there was some behavioral stuff that was being

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Speaker 3: I mean, if Alan Robinson was on the team, he's

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Speaker 3: a really, really good blocking receiver, he doesn't have more

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Speaker 3: value on first and ten and twelve personnel and George Pickens, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, because you guys will put it on the scoreboard.

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Speaker 2: We're run the ball, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, like that doesn't do any good, you know, right,

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Speaker 3: He's your best receiver. Anyone with eyes knows that. And

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Speaker 3: if he's not out there, it's a red flag unless

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Speaker 3: it's he's running go routes and what takes himself out.

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Speaker 2: I also think there were some stuff where the Steelers

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Speaker 2: did look at their tendencies in the analytics part of it.

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Speaker 2: And I know people don't think about this part of it,

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Speaker 2: but you know there was a package where they brought

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Speaker 2: receivers non George Pickens receivers. There were two of them

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Speaker 2: out there, and I'm like, oh, this is a running play,

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Speaker 2: and they threw out of it. And they threw out

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Speaker 2: the backfield the touchdown pass. I believe the Connor Hayward

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Speaker 2: when we put this package, I know that we're running

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Speaker 2: at ninety percent of the time. We can't do that.

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Speaker 2: We got to throw out of this sometimes just to

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Speaker 3: And Austin's not a good blocker. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 3: willing blocker, but I mean, you're not going to tell

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Speaker 2: You're going to serve a purpose. So and I'll play

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Speaker 2: like that though. You just say, hey, Calvin, you're going deep.

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Speaker 2: You're running your guy, run somebody out here, and we'd

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Speaker 2: rather not. You know, George is going to run sixty

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Speaker 2: go route off his plate where we're not throwing them

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Speaker 2: the football and he's a decoy, then okay. But I'm

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Speaker 3: There's more going on, h Yeah, I mean there's no question.

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Speaker 3: And you know, and hopefully that all gets resumed and

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Speaker 3: he gets back to being the star.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it can't be. I mean, he got

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Speaker 2: seven targets in the game. You know, that's what he's

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Speaker 2: averaging for the season, seven targets per game. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: not not throwing to them. Yeah, so you know, it

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Speaker 2: is what it is, and I get it, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I was asked the question today on social media. I

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Speaker 2: don't remember these wide receivers being divas like this back

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Speaker 2: in the you know, thirty years ago, forty years ago,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot there's no social media.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not forty years ago they weren't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but there wasn't anything. I can tell

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Speaker 2: you that when I for a fact the nature of

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Speaker 2: the position. When people say Swan and Stalworth had a rivalry, yeah,

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Speaker 2: in practice, in practice, And Terry Bradshaw has talked about,

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Speaker 2: you know if they would try to tempt him. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take you to dinner, Terry, I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 3: That, like to get to get the football.

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Speaker 2: They all want the football because they think a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because they think they can be the reason why a

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Speaker 3: It's a weird position because in a way, you're on

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Speaker 2: By the way, second and I'm going to take the

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Speaker 2: It is, you know, the Raiders dealing with some things

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Speaker 3: You got yeah, yeah, he wants out. Everybody wants him.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a million guys this offseason, ayuk and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the guy market right now, the guy who's

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Speaker 2: That's what it's all. You want to get the hits, hits, hits, hits.

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Speaker 2: He cut on one hand. In the seventeen or eighteen

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Speaker 2: You know you don't need to call players out publicly

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Speaker 3: I mean you'll say Matt Williamson's too dumb to learn

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Speaker 2: We're overdue for a break, he is Matt Williamson. I

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Speaker 2: am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. When we come back, we will

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Speaker 2: touch on all the other injuries and what the Steelers

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 2: laundry list, starting with three outside linebackers. Alex Hismith will

433
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 2: be out again this week with that groin injury. Nick

434
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: Herbig with.

435
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 3: Ma that a week ago though pretty much yeah, he

436
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 3: probably wasn't gonna be back for this one.

437
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 2: He'll be back for the Jets game. That's what they're

438
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 2: shooting for that two weeks, two weeks from now. Yeah. Good.

439
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 2: Nick Herbig, who was his replacement, suffered a hamstring injury.

440
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,959
Speaker 2: He won't play in this game and to Marvin Leal

441
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 2: who replaced her Big He has a neck injury. He

442
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: won't be back.

443
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 3: So you got TJ's a superstar and no one else.

444
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I know that Moon played, but of your

445
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: four that you counted on, and really Leal can do it,

446
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 3: but that's not his fourteen necessarily.

447
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in trouble.

448
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 3: It's TJ and the Pips DJ and we'll figure it

449
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 3: out type of things, which means new scheming to me

450
00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 3: a little.

451
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 2: Bit differently now during in the in game, they moved

452
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 2: Isaiah Laudermilk out there, especially when you're a nickel and dime, Yeah,

453
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: because basically it's your rush defensive end in those situations.

454
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 2: But you got Jeremiah Moon, who was activated off the

455
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 2: pup list last week's on Saturday because he had been

456
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: or not the pup list off of IR Oh. Yeah,

457
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: So I mean really for Moon, that was that was

458
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: an emergency emergency situation for him, because you know that

459
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 2: was break glass in case something happening. Well, something happened

460
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 2: and he ended up playing twenty eight defensive.

461
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 3: They didn't plan on him playing twenty defensive. Snaps at

462
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: your point, right when you're talking about the things with

463
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson.

464
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Moon had started practicing on Wednesday, got through three

465
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: full practices and they said, okay, he's good enough to go.

466
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: We need we need a fourth one.

467
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: And I can't remember if he played special teams or not.

468
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure he was out there, so yeah.

469
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: He played special you know. And he did that throughout

470
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 2: training camps and at least she had that look at it,

471
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 2: but they didn't plan on playing them twenty eight snaps.

472
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 3: And good thing he was active or been even worse.

473
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: And from what I saw, I wasn't super impressed. But

474
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 3: he also wasn't get the first round pick. He had

475
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: three practice practics, right, I mean he's not a.

476
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: I would expect it with a full week of practices

477
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: with and we should be better.

478
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: They also have to have contingency plans and scheme changes too.

479
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: Now they also have on the practice squad. And these

480
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: guys are both recent signings as well. At a Ogin

481
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: DJ and Aiku Liota Okay now Ogan DJ started twenty

482
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: seven games for the Falcons, but it was in twenty

483
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 2: twenty one and twenty twenty two. I don't know the name.

484
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 2: I think he was a fifth round draft pick out

485
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: of Notre Dame.

486
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I warming up to the idea dge

487
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 3: rusher type guy.

488
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, so I mean he's at least got

489
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: some starting experience there that Yea. This kind of reminds

490
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: me of last year when they're like grabbing Michael Walker

491
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: and those types of anybody all hands on deck. Leoda's

492
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 2: appeared in nine games, uh last season and this year

493
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: it was eight last year, one one game this year

494
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: for the Carolina Panthers. So okay, that's what you're looking

495
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: at right now. Now, that doesn't mean that they won't

496
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: add to that this week, but it is a problem.

497
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: It sounds like a real problem, but probably also sounds

498
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: like a one game problem. Yeah, which, and then knock

499
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 3: on everything you can that watch stays healthy. I mean

500
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: that would be that would be devastating, like it always

501
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 3: is anyways, but it would be devastating. Now, Yeah, I

502
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: think you gotta do scheme changes or Peyton Wilson, do

503
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: you want to play a little.

504
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 2: Bit ahead that's not happening. You don't think they will

505
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 2: do any of that. He was asked about that, and

506
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: he says he is an inside linebacker. Okay, I think

507
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: I mean if you think about it, that makes sense.

508
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: What was why was the one of the reasons why

509
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: he fell in addition to the knees, Well, his short arms.

510
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, like we mentioned Timmins or Chad Brown,

511
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: he doesn't look like either one of the.

512
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: Tims and Chad Brown were outside. We're outside guys in college.

513
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: They moved inside, saying, Wilson just rushes the passer. Well, yeah,

514
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: he's tall, but if you see him walk down the hall,

515
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: he's lean. I mean like he doesn't have a lot

516
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: of sand in his pants. He's not real thick in

517
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: his lower body. They gone tackles time and time again.

518
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: And you're also they didn't ask Timmins and Chad Brown

519
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: to move positions in their rookie seasons either. True. Five

520
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: games into it.

521
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys were handed the dirt edge pass rushers.

522
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 3: Though at some point I don't love the idea of

523
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: louder Milk doing it. But maybe you just do more

524
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 3: for four man fronts, or you know what I mean, just

525
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: puts a heavy end, you know over there at some point,

526
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: play more Nickel, I don't know.

527
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: Bump Cam out there and let him run.

528
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the best usage of him. But so

529
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: what I mean, you know he can handle it, and

530
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't you know, wide plays, maybe he can't

531
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: be the he'll he'll set the edge.

532
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 2: I mean, he'll set that get to the And this

533
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: isn't a great The Raiders aren't a good running team.

534
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 3: No, so this isn't a terrible team we play playing with.

535
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 3: And in this instance, either Wat's going to get quadrupled,

536
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: you know, and more than he usually does. Although there

537
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: is a challenge, they're on their backup left or right tackle.

538
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: That's what I say, is I mean Moon might be

539
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: okay against well not against Miller.

540
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, you don't want that match up being just

541
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Miller dominates it. That's why that's why I would think

542
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: about putting.

543
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: Cam there and just not getting a lot of edge

544
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: bender edge pass rush stuff.

545
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: He can go straight down the center of Miller. Yeah,

546
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Miller's fine, but he's not more is Miller

547
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: six ' eight? Oh yeah, he's a real tall, angular

548
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: offensive tackle. We didn't have a lot of sand in

549
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: the pants, all right.

550
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: I think that's the best solution. Yeah, I mean, just

551
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 3: not use them exactly the same. He wouldn't be as wide,

552
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: you know, like TJ lines up really wide. I mean,

553
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not lying, Cam up that far off

554
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: the ball, away from the ball, but he could still

555
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: be on the outside shoulder of Miller. Yeah, you know,

556
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: and see what happens there bump up. Ogunjobi didn't play

557
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: a lot of snaps.

558
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: I know he was on the had that groin so

559
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: that I think they wanted to kind of limit that

560
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: a little bit, but I don't. I mean, if if

561
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: if it's I'm sure obvious passing downs, if it's Hayward, uh,

562
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: Benton Ogan Joby and why and that's still a pretty

563
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 2: good Yeah, pass rushing group, not fast, but it's you're

564
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: not playing quarterbacks though, you're not playing a mobile quarterback

565
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: this week with either of these guys.

566
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: No, No, I think that's the best move. Yeah, uh,

567
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: that's not the only stuff, though it's not good.

568
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: Cordell Patterson also will miss this second consecutive game, and

569
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: Tomlin listed three players as doubtful. Now he doesn't typically

570
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: say doubtful. I was on Tuesdays Rare Press. That would

571
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: be Jayleen Warren, demonte Kz and Michael prut Okay, so

572
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 2: he's leaving the light on for those guys. If they

573
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: can make it back. All three guys are veteran. He

574
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: must get hurt on the game. He got hurt and

575
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: warm ups actually twisted his ankle. Was able to play

576
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: through it, but as you know, sometimes you take the

577
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: shoe off and all of a sudden he goes yeah.

578
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, it blows up and all

579
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: that good stuff.

580
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we'll see about those, but if they can,

581
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: if any of those three can get back and have

582
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: a at least a limited practice on Friday, they would

583
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: have a chance.

584
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Warren's the one I'd want most.

585
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: I honestly, I think if if they left it up

586
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: the Jalen Warren, he would play.

587
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: I mean, toughness isn't an issue, that's not the issue

588
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: or any of that kind of stuff. But you also

589
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: don't want him to reaggravate him.

590
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: That's that's what they don't want.

591
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean it's a long season, man, I'd

592
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: love to see him back in there. But so those

593
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: guys probably are going to be around two weeks of

594
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: mouth they don't play then, I mean, is that hopeful?

595
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: Was that? Yeah? I think they would be back for

596
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: the jump to shootout.

597
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean Prout's a good player, and he's kind

598
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: of the glue of that group because he can do

599
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: a little bit of everything. But you got three tight

600
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 3: ends that are capable and you know, play a lot

601
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: of twelve or whatever too. That's not the end of

602
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: the world to me. Kz is valuable, but third safety isn't.

603
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: I mean I've been like, I don't I think, you know,

604
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: ideally they'd like to use h Elliott's more in a slot.

605
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: You saw quite a bit of that, and again, I

606
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: think Beanie Bishop's been a bit of an issue there. Sure,

607
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: So if you don't have kz Or, you know, there

608
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: are times when you want to move MinC up into slot.

609
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: If you don't have kz Or, you're going to be

610
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: less apt to do that as well. Yeah, you're not

611
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: going to have Edmunds go back and play free safety

612
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: and Elliott can do it, but that's not a good

613
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: use of his yeah either, right.

614
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot of things you gotta scheme around. Yeah,

615
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: but that's life in the NFL. That is I mean,

616
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: this isn't the only They're not the only team dealing

617
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: with that. They're not the team with the most injuries

618
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: out there either. But clusters are tough.

619
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely are. And this is why I was

620
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: thinking about this this morning as I was driving into

621
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: the offices. When people talk about the Steelers having ten

622
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: point five million in cap space, they don't take me

623
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: into account that you have to have money available to

624
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: sign people because of injuries.

625
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: If they were to go grab an edge guy or something, just.

626
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: Go get it, Just go get us, Go get a

627
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: receiver for who has ten point five million left on

628
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: his contract. Oh you're saying that's all well good, but

629
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: now you don't have any Now you're in you can't

630
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: sign anybody else during the season when you have injury

631
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: clusters like.

632
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: This, Yeah, you got what you got. Golden's probably not

633
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: the best example, But do you think they might be

634
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: on the phone with some veteran edge guy of that ILK.

635
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: You know, I would at least call him and say, hey,

636
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: are you retired? Retired? Yeah?

637
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: You kept in shape? Do you want to give it

638
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: a shot?

639
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: Can you give us fifteen snaps on Sunday? I at

640
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: least kick the tires on it? Yeah?

641
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: Man, Okay, I've been excited for Warren. That's kind of

642
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: a bomber. Think he could be a nice shot in

643
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: the arm to this offense. CAZy, I think you can

644
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: live without, but that's not ideal. Same with Pruett.

645
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the cluster engine. Luckily for them, they

646
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: were able to get Threll Evans back.

647
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of a sudden, he's going to be a

648
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: regular contributor.

649
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Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, you know that you may see him out

650
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: there some and you know, it's not the worst thing

651
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: in the world, you know, having Patterson and Warren out again.

652
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw how that looks. Yeah, right, anybody else

653
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: on the injury report at all? No, that's it, okay,

654
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: But they're all bad clusters.

655
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all clusters.

656
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: And they're not questionable ones or limited ones. They're bad ones.

657
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: Ye like, Yeah, they're outs and doubtfuls. And of course

658
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: the Raiders dealing with some stuff for their own and

659
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: you know, largely it's the quarterback situation.

660
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: And Christian Wilkins was Christian Wilks got hurt.

661
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a really really good player, you know,

662
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: so well, I mean they don't have Christian Wilkins there.

663
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 2: That's pretty tough for them. I Mean they went out

664
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Speaker 2: in major off season. Addition, gave up a lot, a

665
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: lot to get him and now all of a sudden,

666
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: you don't have him. I'm just looking here at there

667
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: to see what else they they've got here in terms

668
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: of injury stuff.

669
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Speaker 3: Well in the meantime, folks, So if you Devanta Adams

670
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: isn't playing, Adams isn't going to play. Minshew was pulled

671
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: for the second time this year in that game and

672
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: replaced by O'Connell. They have an announced the starter, and

673
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a huge difference between the two.

674
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: I'd probably rather play against O'Connell, but I don't think

675
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: they have their quarterback yet.

676
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: So Zamir White is questionable. Okay, did he missed his

677
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: past week? I think I believe yeaheah. Uh. The Cameron Richardson,

678
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: who's a cornerback questionable. Theayir Mumford Junior h the offensive

679
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: tackle questionable. I think he's their starting right tackle. Michael

680
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: Mayer the tight end questionable. He didn't play last week.

681
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

682
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: Tyreek McCall be in a lot at twelve, Yeah, I

683
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: mean that's their plan. Tyreek McCallister is a wide receiver questionable,

684
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: Divine Diablo linebacker is questionable. And then Devonte Adams, he

685
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: is not playing he's not gonna play. He mightn't be

686
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: a Raider by that. Yeah, and of course we'll see, uh.

687
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: I mean, and they didn't mention Wilkins. Wilkins, you know,

688
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: didn't return to that game with the foot injury. Foot

689
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: injury for a guy that size typically is not good.

690
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: I mean, he was immediately ruled out. That's why I

691
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: assumed he would not be playing this game.

692
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: And you know, in terms of their you know the

693
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: depth chart, I mean, they don't have they don't have

694
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: a very good roster. You know, when you're when you're deciding,

695
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: you know, you're pulling your quarterback to put in the

696
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: guy that he beat out in training camp. It tells

697
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: me you don't have a quarterback. It's one of those

698
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: This is not the this is not the Wilson Fields thing.

699
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: It's not.

700
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: It's not Montana Young either, or holding it down for

701
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: the young guy until he's ready, you know, like yeah,

702
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: Brisette in May or something like that. It's we did

703
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: a lot of O'Connell last year. Didn't really like it

704
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: or thought he was the answer. So when I got Minshew,

705
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: they were heavily rumored to be in on pin X,

706
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: who went right in front of them, and now they're

707
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: kind of left holding.

708
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: The bag their right tackle if Mumford isn't ready to go,

709
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: and I don't think he will be. His DJ Glaze,

710
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: who was kind of a project out of Maryland Marican Draft,

711
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: went the third round because he has the size and

712
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: measurable Yeah, yeah, he is a project, but his tape

713
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: last year did not projecting. He's a good combine guy

714
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: and yeah yeah, I mean he gave up a bunch

715
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: of sacks last year in Maryland. It was not good.

716
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: And I was shocked he went in the third round.

717
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I thought he's more of a fifth round

718
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: red shirt year, which is probably what they would still

719
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: love to do with them.

720
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: And they got Jackson Powers. Johnson isn't starting for them either.

721
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: He was playing a lot last week and he's been

722
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: on the field and he's definitely played snaps this year.

723
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: Maybe he's been pulled in out of the way.

724
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: Maybe they're bumping Cody white Hair out the right tackle

725
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: and some of that. Dylan Parhum, I don't know.

726
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean white Hair is somebody you want to

727
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: play against.

728
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason he has white hair. But yeah, so,

729
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: I mean they've got some offensive line problems, and.

730
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: There's you know, I mean, there are lines not tremendous

731
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 3: on his best day. Uh, Jamis I think you played

732
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: think you pronounced it hamous or I don't pronounce his

733
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 3: name properly. He's an okay center that they retained on Williams. Yeah,

734
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: but I think it's pronounced it like an H.

735
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: I know that sounds weird. Never I've never heard that pronounced. O.

736
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 2: Where's Rob King when that stuff? That's all he does. Again.

737
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: Rob likes to correct Matt and I on pronunciations.

738
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: Because he's right and wrong. I mean, because he doesn't

739
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: he does play by play right. Yeah, we're not doing

740
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: play by play. So if we want to call Andre

741
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: James Andre James instead of us, you know.

742
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: Guys, this isn't aside. You make it to the NFL

743
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: and everybody has called you your name and pronounced it

744
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: one way, and then you decide one day, well that's

745
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: not how it's pronounced. Who was the pit? Who's the pit? Tackle? Well,

746
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: there's Dorset and Dorset that but thives and that changed

747
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: as well. But there was a tackle from Pitt. Our

748
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: guard from Pitt, I'm sorry, the guard from Pitt who

749
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 2: went to the Bearers, I think, or maybe the Bills

750
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: back in the day, and said, oh, they just everybody's

751
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: been pronouncing my name wrong throughout my college career and

752
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: I never corrected him. But how many NFL? Why did

753
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: you correct them? You go to your mispronounced all the time.

754
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: How so I get lowly, I get uh, you know,

755
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff called Dave all the time.

756
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: That's even more like the l L. Not that it's

757
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: not on his side, but anyways, it is what it is.

758
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: Their center is call me late for dinner. Back to

759
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: the old line of the center. He was one of

760
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: like six free agents that he kind of considered for

761
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: the Steelers when in free agency time, not knowing Fraser

762
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: is gonna land here. Miller left tackle is their best guy.

763
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: But he's on the top five left tackle. He's okay,

764
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: he's so yeah, get.

765
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: Some issues there, dioblos are they're starting week side? Yeah,

766
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: he's very and he hit big safety to safety out

767
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: of Virginia Tech that you know for a few years.

768
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: So at least with Robert Splain, well, they love they

769
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: play him every snap.

770
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: And I don't know that the Steelers aren't going to

771
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: love playing against Spalen.

772
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do our three keys every week, and one

773
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: of them might be.

774
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: A tax payer, a tax splayin in the passing game. Yeah,

775
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: I mean, Robert's a great run stopper and he'll fill

776
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: the hole and do all that stuff. And he he

777
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: knows where he's supposed to be at. He just can't

778
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: always get there. M Yeah, I'm shocked that there is

779
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: excited about him and use him as much as they do. Well,

780
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: it's it's not a great defense, it's not I mean,

781
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: I guess he's at the top of league. Here we

782
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 2: go again, talking down the opponent.

783
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: Right, No chance I can lose this one. He is

784
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: not a very good opponent though, folks. No, there's a

785
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: lot of bad teams out there.

786
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: There are. You can't lose to them. And I don't

787
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: know that the Steelers have lost. They haven't lost to

788
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: a bad team. I don't think the Cowboys are a

789
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: bad team. No, I mean, I don't think the Colts

790
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: very bad team. No, No, I think this is a

791
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: bad team. Yeah, absolutely, let's get to another break. He

792
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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

793
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll

794
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: be back with more right after this.

795
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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

796
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

797
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

799
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt. Of course, you can listen to

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00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,800
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801
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,239
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802
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,640
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803
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: to do that. You can also do that on these

804
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: Listen to it on the Steelers official mobile app and

805
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: watch us on YouTube again every Monday through Friday from

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00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: four to six pm. The video is usually up by

807
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: seven eight o'clock on YouTube. So yeah, yeah, check that

808
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: out as well if you were so inclined and want

809
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 2: to watch that on your big screen TV.

810
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: I don't want you to do that, but maybe have

811
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: ad it. Man, it's worse thing to watch on DAVI, right,

812
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 3: do whatever makes it happy?

813
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: Yes, please keep your clothes on. Week five in the

814
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: NFL wrapped up last night with the Kansas City Chiefs

815
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: beating the New Orleans Saints twenty six to thirteen, and

816
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: it was a throwback to about No I don't know,

817
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, something like that, about five years or so ago. Yeah,

818
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt twenty seven carries for one hundred and two yards,

819
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster seven catches for one hundred and thirty yards,

820
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: Travis Kelce nine for seventy Uh what are we doing here?

821
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? How about it? And so Racie Rice had surgery today.

822
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: He's gonna be out for the year. But I guess

823
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: it was a good surgery.

824
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: The ACL was intact, all that stuff back.

825
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: It was a LC I got play again, Yes, And

826
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: Juju's gonna fill his role, probably not as well, I mean, obviously,

827
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: but they have some similarities. At least they're the same style.

828
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: Kelsey looks good, you know. I mean, he's back to

829
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: playing pretty well. I mean, we'll see how much problem is.

830
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: It comes down to the load manage that Mike Tomlin

831
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: was talking about. Do you want Kelsey out there running

832
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: fifty pass rounds?

833
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: That was the original plan, you know, Like, I'm sure

834
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: they had a conversation. Should I come back this year?

835
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: Say not?

836
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: You know most players do with that age. I'd like

837
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: to come back, but not play quite as much, you know.

838
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: Or now he's stuck playing now you're playing as much,

839
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: you know, and such his life running back, they've been

840
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 3: short forever, you know, I mean, and now Pacheck goes

841
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: out and Hunt is carrying the load for now.

842
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: But it was three point eight yards of carry. I say,

843
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: he wasn't great. Eight yards was his long carry. And

844
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: it probably took him eight minutes to run that eight

845
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: yards because he is not fast.

846
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: No, he never was super fast to begin with. And

847
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 3: now he's pretty sluggish and he's good blocking, and he's

848
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: in a good offense and great, but they controlled that game.

849
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 3: I mean, they had like forty minutes time of possession.

850
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: They ran a lot more plays. I didn't think it

851
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 3: was ever in danger, you know, I think they're fine.

852
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: Well, and immediately on social media when Juju Smith Schuster

853
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 2: starts to make a couple of plays, well, the Steelers

854
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: should have signed him. He would have been he'd be

855
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: their second best wide receiver right now. And I'm like,

856
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: they're scheming stuff up specifically for Juju.

857
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're not changing the playbook. They're just making

858
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 3: him be race you right.

859
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: And he had a fifty yard catch and run where

860
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Speaker 2: the guy with Tyram Mathow who was supposed to be

861
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: covering him. Fell down, Man, fall down. I can remember

862
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: back in the day Troy Edwards was when he was

863
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: with the Steelers and there was a game that Quadri

864
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: Ismail went off for the Ravens against the Steelers. The

865
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: one played Dwayne Washington was covering him and fell down. Yeah,

866
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: and so he's running down the sidelines by himself, and

867
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: I can't remember who the quarterback was at the time,

868
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: maybe Tony Banks or somebody of that. ILK hit him

869
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: with the pass and he went seventy yards for a touchdown,

870
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: and I think it was our friend Jim Wexel asked,

871
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: asked Troy Edwards after the game? You know, is that

872
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: the kind of received He had like seven catches for

873
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty yards and two touchdowns, most of

874
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: it on that one. Yeah, sure, right? Is that the

875
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: kind of receiver you, you know, would hope to be,

876
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: you know, and Troy Edwards is expletive what he done?

877
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: Man fall down and he just ran for an open touchdown,

878
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: like you know, Like, but the point was, you didn't

879
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: do anything. He just ran route. It could have happened anybody.

880
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, maybe they'll get a lot out of juju,

881
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: but it's not going to be racy Rice, It's not

882
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: gonna be They're not thrilled to the situation.

883
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: And if you watched that game, Smith Schusher didn't do

884
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: anything early, right, it was all after Kelsey had kind

885
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: of gone off earlier, and then all of a sudden

886
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: this saying said, we can't let him do that. So

887
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: now you're singling up Juju with Tyrea Manthal, who's actually

888
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: older than Juju. He's lost a step. Yeah, yeah, and yeah, okay,

889
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: you just can't. You know, if you're gonna double Kelsey

890
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: or someone like again, it's it's to make a Fitzpatricks

891
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: talk that we just had. If you're gonna double the

892
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: other team's best receiver, somebody else is going to be open.

893
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure the Saints saying, well, if Juju has a

894
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: big night and beats us, so be it.

895
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: I can live in.

896
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of what the league is all about.

897
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: And I think it's true you mentioned it for Kelsey.

898
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: What's Juju look like in ten games from now? What's

899
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: Hunt looked like in ten games from now? Fresh off

900
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: the couch? Not no damage? You know, you're feeling.

901
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: Good, you know, Jujui, I don't even know how many

902
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: snaps Juju had played to this point, but I guarantee

903
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: he played more snaps last night than he had. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

904
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: So he's been a guy over the last few years.

905
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: It's had to manage knee issues, you know. So what's

906
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: this going to look like?

907
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: And now everyone has games down the road, a full

908
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: game tape of Okay, they are going to use him

909
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: as Ratie Rice, we might have to he will get targets.

910
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to treat him a little differently. Okay,

911
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: they are going to.

912
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: Give Kareem Hunt the football twenty seven times? Yeah yeah, okay,

913
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: so what do we do to shut that down? Can't

914
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: he do?

915
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: But I thought the Chiefs d was good. He's been

916
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: the one constant that's been the constant Ryeah in Mahomes

917
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: And yeah, Mahomes hasn't been phenomenal.

918
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: No, but you know, with the game last night, because

919
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: of some catch and run stuff, his average per pass

920
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: was eight point five. But they weren't long pass I mean,

921
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: it was some catch and run stuff. That do you

922
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: think they're the best team in the league. I know.

923
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: I guess we will do power ranks later so we

924
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: could talk about that. But I don't think so. I

925
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: don't know who is.

926
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: I don't know who is. But yeah, put it this way,

927
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: everybody has flaws.

928
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, very much so. So I think twenty one teams

929
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 3: either have two or three losses. Yeah, I mean that's

930
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: the Steelers. I mean, that's what the league wants. I'm

931
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: pretty sure who, including some of those, who the really

932
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: bad teams are. But I'm not quite sure who the

933
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: really good teams are.

934
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: I mean, three weeks agoybody was talking about the Saints

935
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: as being one of the top because they spared ninety

936
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: points in their first two games.

937
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: That's I was gonna say. Actually, I mean, like, what

938
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: are they Where the points been the last month? Yeah,

939
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: they'd like to have saved some of the yeah, he ye,

940
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: now right. And they did some new things, caught people buy,

941
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: you know, off balance.

942
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: Just Clint Kubiak offens, just things loaded. Well, they threw

943
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventy four yards and rush for

944
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: forty six last.

945
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: Night, and they had a big play to Shaheed. I

946
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 3: mean that it wasn't other than that, it's nothing right,

947
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 3: and then Carr got hur at the end of the game.

948
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: I don't know that the game is out of whack

949
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: at that point anyway, But it's an a blique and

950
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: he's a quarterback and you kind of need your oblique

951
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 2: to go. Yeah the two. Right, So everybody's got issues.

952
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but everyone's down on the Steelers, But I mean

953
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: Buffalo has none other guys could get away from man coverage,

954
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: you know, I mean if Allen's on a superstar, they're

955
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: back to that on offense. You know, the back seven

956
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: is not great. You know, we just talked about some

957
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: chief things going on. Raven's past defense is problematic. You know,

958
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: I'm talking about something something.

959
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: Today like they're talking about So last week I saw

960
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 2: a thing that said Marlon Humphrey is back. Yeah this week,

961
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: I see you think Nate Wiggins he's he's really impressive.

962
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, so if you got these two

963
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: cornerbacks that are that impressive, how the hell are you

964
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: giving up four hundred yards and five touchdowns of Joe

965
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: Burrow And you.

966
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: Know, Cale Hamilton's a good player in the second Yeah,

967
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: they're not.

968
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: Getting a lot of your free safety is a former

969
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: All Pro like what they can't all be throw It

970
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: can't throw for four hundred yards and you're all you're

971
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: targeting this the nickel.

972
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: Corner, right, it's not all on roke one a right, right,

973
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,479
Speaker 3: they got Yeah. I don't know who the weak links are,

974
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 3: but their past defense overall is certainly.

975
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: I bet you NFL teams know who it is.

976
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think they're shying away from anyone.

977
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: No, you know, Cincinnati's defense is bad, you know, I mean, like, right,

978
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: who are the good good teams? I don't know right now?

979
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: And again that's why you play. And if you're a

980
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: good team now, like the Vikings are five and oh

981
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: right now yeah, playing well? Yeah, playing real Well, how's

982
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: it going to look three weeks from now? I don't know.

983
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: It is a very.

984
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: Week to week league and really should probably remind our

985
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: listeners that more and more, you know, yeah, even after

986
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: the highs like Steel has played well that game, but

987
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they play well next game.

988
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: Like Alabama beat Georgia yeah yeah, yeah, and then goes

989
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 2: and lose the Vanderbilt. It happens in college football too.

990
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: In college too. Yeah, but the NFL is designed that way.

991
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: They want parody, they want you.

992
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: Know, and they schedule unlike college football, where if I'm

993
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: a good football team, I'm a good program. I can

994
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: schedule myself. If I have twelve games, I can get

995
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: eight of them at home, because I'll pay somebody to

996
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: come in and beat them, you know, beat the tar

997
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: out of them. You don't get to do that in

998
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: the NFL. No, the schedule makers, you don't have any

999
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: control over your schedule. In fact, and if they want

1000
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: to give you three straight road games, they're going to

1001
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: give you three straight road games. They want to give

1002
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: you three out of four on the road to open

1003
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 2: the season. Is what is what happened to the Steelers.

1004
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: You're playing three of the four to open the season

1005
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: on the road.

1006
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: If you want to go overseas, you're going overseat. You know,

1007
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, yeah, yeah, or hey you're getting a

1008
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: bunch of cluster injuries at outside linebacker. We don't care

1009
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: your restaurant get hit by lightning.

1010
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't pay me, right, yes, exactly absolutely. Anyways, let's

1011
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: get to a break. That's going to do it for

1012
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: hour number one of the drive here on the Steelers

1013
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: Audio Network. Matt and Now will be back with our

1014
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Speaker 2: number two right after this