Speaker 1: The nick A Gliser Podcast.
Speaker 2: Glaser, here's Nikki.
Speaker 3: Hello here, I am welcome to the show. It's Nicky
Speaker 3: Gleizer Podcast. I'm in a pretty good mood today. I
Speaker 3: just went to Pilate's early morning, got it done with.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any better feeling than being done
Speaker 3: with a workout. Oh yeah, Oh it's the best. Can
Speaker 3: you beat it?
Speaker 4: Can anyone beat that feeling? The worst time to die
Speaker 4: would be right after you leave the gym.
Speaker 3: Interesting, okay, yeah, because you just worked out, you put
Speaker 3: in the time, and you're about to have like a
Speaker 3: really good hour, and you don't.
Speaker 4: You don't get to experience the benefits.
Speaker 3: I always think that it's like, well, you can look
Speaker 3: hot during your autopsy. But I always think about the
Speaker 3: worst time to die would be at the end. You like,
Speaker 3: you take a plane somewhere and you you take like
Speaker 3: a seventeen hour flight and it it it crashes upon landing.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'd rather just like.
Speaker 3: Let's get it over with at the top of it.
Speaker 3: So you just and you're in a middle seat the
Speaker 3: whole time on like a China Eastern Air, which was
Speaker 3: the worst flight I've ever taken in my life. That
Speaker 3: was the it was hell on Earth jet Blue Mint.
Speaker 3: I would like to die at the end of that
Speaker 3: because I'm laying horizontal. I'm sleeping the whole time. That
Speaker 3: was the greatest experience of my life. Of the year.
Speaker 3: My best moment of the past three hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: five days was a flight from Los Angeles to West
Speaker 3: Palm Beach two weeks ago Jet Blue Mint Horizon. I
Speaker 3: lay down the whole time. No one can get me
Speaker 3: in the air, there's no responsibilities, there's no there could
Speaker 3: be no wife. I no one knows I am safe
Speaker 3: in a cubby. There's someone next to me. I don't
Speaker 3: like even I like someone laying next to me too.
Speaker 3: I just like to be like some I like that
Speaker 3: everyone's like awake doing things, and I get to sleep
Speaker 3: peacefully like a little squirrel, like hollow it out.
Speaker 4: Long in your bed at night and then hearing your
Speaker 4: parents talking and like the other room. That's like from childhood.
Speaker 3: It's the greatest. When there's activity, someone is, someone's awake
Speaker 3: to get intruders monsters if they come. But yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so jet Blue it's like you walk in or this
Speaker 3: is like it's it's just a first class experience so
Speaker 3: and not a lot of planes have it so you
Speaker 3: can lay down. Those are always like flights, you know,
Speaker 3: like longer.
Speaker 2: But usually domestic.
Speaker 3: What was that?
Speaker 2: Especially domestic flights.
Speaker 3: Usually it's got to be like Los Angeles to New York.
Speaker 3: But this Los Angeles to West Palm Beach was like
Speaker 3: a five hour flight, so I slept the entire time.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it lays all you get totally.
Speaker 4: Flat, and just think about the people flying from LA
Speaker 4: to West Palm Beach. Those are some pretty special people
Speaker 4: that are like the West Beach is filled with boomers
Speaker 4: who are retired, and LA people are all mostly in
Speaker 4: the industry, so it's probably yeah, like.
Speaker 3: I don't want to know how much that flight costs.
Speaker 4: They're probably like producers from the Seven Doors storry about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my new thing to spend money on. I'm
Speaker 3: just doing this shit. Flying first class when you can
Speaker 3: lay down is my favorite thing in the world. There's
Speaker 3: not there's not a moment I spent with my niece
Speaker 3: where she was giggling and saying I love you. That
Speaker 3: is better than that feeling. There's not me completing, you know,
Speaker 3: months long of preparing for a special and it finally
Speaker 3: being done. There's no there's no better feeling than sleeping
Speaker 3: in the air.
Speaker 4: Would you rather do that than fly private?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I liked. I like being
Speaker 3: around people. I don't I don't want to fly private
Speaker 3: because I also feel like you'll die private, Like you
Speaker 3: have a better chance of dying when it's a smaller plane. Sure,
Speaker 3: so I get a little bit worried about that. But no,
Speaker 3: I would and no, I wouldn't want to fly private.
Speaker 3: I feel like I would feel lonely.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't drop twenty k to go private to West
Speaker 4: I like airports.
Speaker 3: I like Hudson Newses. I like paying four dollars and
Speaker 3: nine cents for a diet coke. I like setting my
Speaker 3: bags down and going to the bathroom. I just I like,
Speaker 3: I don't like the TSA, but like it's not so
Speaker 3: bad once you get in there. Once you pass the TSA,
Speaker 3: it feels you just feel like no one can get
Speaker 3: you in there. There's just nothing you can do. I
Speaker 3: just want to be protected from people getting me.
Speaker 5: Where are they get in that?
Speaker 3: Like if you wrote to me and were like, I
Speaker 3: need you to write back to this email or I
Speaker 3: need you to review this video. To send us notes
Speaker 3: on it. The WiFi is really bad here, like an airport,
Speaker 3: there's nowhere to listen to things. There's no where to
Speaker 3: like actually work.
Speaker 5: That's where I do all my listening and working.
Speaker 3: Yes, I guess people do.
Speaker 5: Definitely have WiFi, and everyone knows.
Speaker 3: It's not like these buingo hotspots anymore. It's like it's
Speaker 3: free strong. You have to watch an ad for AT
Speaker 3: and T for fifty seconds and then you're in the
Speaker 3: plane is different.
Speaker 6: I think it's so funny in airports, like in the
Speaker 6: waiting areas when there's like a crowd of people where
Speaker 6: you can plug in your charger block for the phone.
Speaker 6: It's just people huddled around.
Speaker 3: In like this. It's like a fire in a old
Speaker 3: you know barrel. Yeah, like homeless people.
Speaker 4: The remember that were you there for the blackout of
Speaker 4: twenty there for the black fourteen something? Oh those were
Speaker 4: wild to fourteen.
Speaker 3: I think there was one only two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and eight, I think it was.
Speaker 5: How long was it blacked?
Speaker 4: Well, it's pretty wild. I think it was like a
Speaker 4: week or something. For there were some parts of it
Speaker 4: that were way longer.
Speaker 3: I was there in twenty fourteen. But I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I don't remember exactly. It wasn't two thousand and eight,
Speaker 4: because yeah, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: Been really was it was before the tens.
Speaker 4: The big blackout, Well that was Hurricane Sandy and then
Speaker 4: there maybe that was. Yeah, the blackout was twelve twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: Oh, two thousand and three was the blackout that I read?
Speaker 4: Oh, well that was that was me growing up. Blackout
Speaker 4: That was like the whole Eastern Seaboard blackout and where
Speaker 4: I went looting as a young boy.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I remember the blackout of two thousand and
Speaker 4: three and men I went looting, Yes, I.
Speaker 3: Did know you did.
Speaker 5: It's like your neighbors under I went and I stole.
Speaker 4: Me and my friends we went and I went to
Speaker 4: the summer camp that I used to go to, and
Speaker 4: we stole like a basketball or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because there was nothing. Everything was off and it was dark.
Speaker 4: You really couldn't see anything. And me and my friends,
Speaker 4: me and my little rapscallion friends there, we were real
Speaker 4: little rascals. We went through the town and we stole
Speaker 4: mostly sporting goods from places that wouldn't have missed them.
Speaker 3: Okay, like a plate against sports or like, like, how
Speaker 3: did you get into these sporting good stores that.
Speaker 4: The camp was just wedn go to stores? I did,
Speaker 4: like throw a brick through a window and loot like
Speaker 4: it's San Francisco in twenty twenty? Am I right? No?
Speaker 4: I went a climb defense or unhooked defense or just
Speaker 4: walked into the open area that the property was.
Speaker 3: It was like the worst thing you ever did in
Speaker 3: your life? Was like, was that the most breaking laws?
Speaker 3: Like you ever did? Hold on, I have a booger.
Speaker 3: I can't handle this. There's a face, an old face
Speaker 3: mask down here.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: I hate when like there's just like a like a
Speaker 3: wet booger you like like sniffle your nose and it
Speaker 3: like transfers into chic. No, is this too gross for you?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 3: Does this not happen to you?
Speaker 5: I don't like what ones?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're horrible because at least a dry one you
Speaker 3: can feel and you can like fall off, you can
Speaker 3: like flick it off. Noah's gone, she blashed, has said.
Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna go loot something and it's clean.
Speaker 3: Is that the worst thing you ever did? Brian?
Speaker 4: The worst thing I ever did? Crime wise? I can't
Speaker 4: think of something worse than looting.
Speaker 3: Stealing from a summer camp.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I did beat the ship out
Speaker 4: of that. I did beat the ship out of that
Speaker 4: eleven year old.
Speaker 5: Last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, last year, and he and he died.
Speaker 3: But when did you beat the ship out of eleven
Speaker 3: year old? You were eleven?
Speaker 2: I'm guessing no.
Speaker 4: I was thirty and I just killed an eleven. I
Speaker 4: don't know what like this joke?
Speaker 3: Wait, when did you beat the ship out of an eleven
Speaker 3: year old?
Speaker 4: I never? But one time I was that was just
Speaker 4: a joke. I was exaggerating something that I definitely didn't do.
Speaker 4: One time I did kidnap a bunch of uh women
Speaker 4: from a from.
Speaker 3: I don't like them. All it keeps coming.
Speaker 4: It looks podcast. Is this this whole thing?
Speaker 3: Even I can't Yeah, it's all I felt like.
Speaker 4: I was vamping with my random crime. This is all
Speaker 4: going in. People are going to listen to this, then
Speaker 4: we're gonna.
Speaker 3: Have does anyone?
Speaker 5: Why not? It's the truer.
Speaker 3: It's not like I'm like doing I'm molesting someone on camera,
Speaker 3: you know, like it's it's it's not a crime to have.
Speaker 4: Well, you have a dust in your nose. No, it's
Speaker 4: not a crime. But you have a very special relationship
Speaker 4: with like germs and things like that, Like you don't
Speaker 4: care at all, Like you're your your level of germ
Speaker 4: caring is like beyond the spectrum. It's like so low.
Speaker 3: No, it's I'm not disgusting, Like there are things that
Speaker 3: I disgusting.
Speaker 4: You don't care.
Speaker 3: Boogers are not germs. Well yeah, boogers are gross, there's
Speaker 3: no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: A wetness. You can take the we Sorry.
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't want to hear someone talking about that
Speaker 3: if I was listening to a podcast, but my own.
Speaker 3: Do not discuss me.
Speaker 4: Of course, but do you know what I'm talking?
Speaker 3: Wipe your nose and it will like get on your
Speaker 3: hand somewhere and every stream. I slowly moved, Oh there is,
Speaker 3: there's one.
Speaker 4: On my hands, like.
Speaker 3: A part of it gets on there. It's fine, everyone
Speaker 3: calm down. Let's go back to looting.
Speaker 5: Chill.
Speaker 3: The biggest thing you've ever stolen cop car? Remember, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, will you tell us again, because I forget
Speaker 3: I stole a cop car.
Speaker 5: It was the Jimmy Buffett parking lot which me and
Speaker 5: my friend used to go to the parking lot for
Speaker 5: shows and not actually go into the shows. And we
Speaker 5: went to the parking lots so we could steal. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we would everyone. Someone brought one time, like a truckload
Speaker 5: of sand and poured it out, and they had like
Speaker 5: umbrellas and stuff in it, and coolers and all the
Speaker 5: kinds of stuff. So they would act like they were
Speaker 5: at the beach and they would go into the show,
Speaker 5: and then we would go stealing all their ship, like
Speaker 5: basically all their booze and food and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: just abandoned their little beach setups. Yeah, they'd all go
Speaker 5: to the show and leave everything there because you can't
Speaker 5: bring it with stealing.
Speaker 3: They left it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Ok.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then someone I'm saying saying or what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: somebody uh left their lights on of this car, and
Speaker 5: so me and my friends thought we should turn them off, right,
Speaker 5: So we saw the keys were in it, and then
Speaker 5: I started the car to see if it would start,
Speaker 5: and it didn't, So then me and my friends decaided
Speaker 5: we were going to jump the car. I don't know
Speaker 5: why we were doing all this stuff drunk. I guess
Speaker 5: we thought that to be nice, and then I started, well, well, shoot,
Speaker 5: we should go through it. And I opened it.
Speaker 3: So you saw a car with its lights on you
Speaker 3: were you were like, we'll.
Speaker 5: Turn them off.
Speaker 3: Then let's just check the engine to see if the
Speaker 3: battery is dead. It is, let's jump the car. So
Speaker 3: we're being nice.
Speaker 5: We're still getting nice. And then then I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna look around it. Probably there's probably nothing
Speaker 5: to steal. In the backseat there was all these coconut
Speaker 5: brawls and like lay skirts or lays and like the
Speaker 5: grass skirts. And then I opened like some of the
Speaker 5: you know, the consoles, and there was a badge and
Speaker 5: all this cop stuff. And then I was like, well,
Speaker 5: I don't want to be nice anymore, right, because it's
Speaker 5: the cops. So then we decided we're going to joy
Speaker 5: ride the car. And so we just drove the car
Speaker 5: and parked it somewhere else to mess with them.
Speaker 3: Okay, so was it like you took it and.
Speaker 5: Steal Yeah, but we did take the badge.
Speaker 3: It was like cop car.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Do no, I have policed at.
Speaker 3: You ever looked up who it is?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: Wait, what you like?
Speaker 5: My friend has told me? My friend that I just
Speaker 5: was visiting him. We did it together, and he told
Speaker 5: me a long time ago that he buried the badge.
Speaker 3: You took his badge to grow a cop Yeah, he
Speaker 3: took he watered it and then.
Speaker 5: Allegedly like twenty what.
Speaker 4: What I thought you were going to say? Fourteen? Why
Speaker 4: were you? Why are you doing this at twenty hours?
Speaker 5: I was at wrong.
Speaker 4: I can understand if you were like a teenager and
Speaker 4: you couldn't buy alcohol and this is what you did,
Speaker 4: like in your hands, but twenty four like you should
Speaker 4: have had a job or you should had.
Speaker 3: An illustrious life.
Speaker 4: God, and he stole a cop car and a badge. Yes,
Speaker 4: And now you're implicating yourself on a podcast that thousands
Speaker 4: of people listened to.
Speaker 5: It could be just a story that I like to
Speaker 5: tell because I.
Speaker 4: Under the vail of uh you're like Mark Twain?
Speaker 5: Now, oh yes, I am actually Samuel Clemens. That's the
Speaker 5: trick to it.
Speaker 3: Wait, what did Mark Twain lie about true things? Or
Speaker 3: say that he was lying what he said truth?
Speaker 5: I think it's all fiction?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, but he's a fiction. This could be fiction, right, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, it is, Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 5: This isn't addiction or.
Speaker 3: Is it now? I feel like, yeah, I can't even
Speaker 3: think of I would be so scared to get caught.
Speaker 3: But I guess that's the drunk part.
Speaker 4: So you were just like really drunk doing this. This
Speaker 4: was like no, I.
Speaker 5: Mean I would do stuff like that all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah you know what my dad My dad had, Yeah,
Speaker 5: she's got sticky. What would you do anymore?
Speaker 4: Would you do? Now?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: So you know you stole, allegedly as a joke.
Speaker 5: Stuff from like that I needed for like for the house,
Speaker 5: stuff like that from like stores you.
Speaker 3: Felt bad about. Have you ever later on been like
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have taken that from that person?
Speaker 5: No, because I don't take things from people just.
Speaker 3: Like stores or cops, cars or the state. Well you
Speaker 3: turning that like I'm gonna turn off their lights and
Speaker 3: then their car.
Speaker 5: And then that's funny because I have pictured we have
Speaker 5: pictures of all this stuff with pictures of like us
Speaker 5: jumping the car and stuff, and I'm like, that's we
Speaker 5: thought we were doing something good for a long time. Well,
Speaker 5: like why are we gonna jump? We should be having fun.
Speaker 5: Instead we're jumping this person's car they're in They're like
Speaker 5: living a sponge kick and the and the show, we're
Speaker 5: jumping their car.
Speaker 3: Unbeknown to have totally done something like that when I'm drunk.
Speaker 4: It's just turning off the lights. It's turning off the
Speaker 4: lights seems like a reasonable, But then to go as
Speaker 4: far as to jump the cars, like.
Speaker 3: People have been excited to jump a car, it's always
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 5: I being a good sam. A few months ago, I
Speaker 5: was at a Cardinals game. These teens got out and
Speaker 5: they were like kind of mean looking teens, like kind
Speaker 5: of dressed. One of them was dressed and like fish
Speaker 5: nets and like kind of a skanky outfit. And the
Speaker 5: ones they were looking like they were definitely, yeah, they
Speaker 5: were mad. The other ones they were looking like they
Speaker 5: were definitely going to go do something like drug related.
Speaker 5: So they went far away they left their lights on.
Speaker 5: I yelled, hey, you left your lights on, and then
Speaker 5: they were out of view. And so I was sitting
Speaker 5: waiting for my with my sister for someone to pick
Speaker 5: us up, because they went and got the car to
Speaker 5: pick us up my dad and Colin, my boyfriend, and
Speaker 5: then they came back or no.
Speaker 4: I went in.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I'm gonna turn their lights off.
Speaker 5: So I opened the door and started to turn their
Speaker 5: lights off, and they all of a sudden came out
Speaker 5: of nowhere and started like this guy ran up like
Speaker 5: he was gonna punch me, and they were screaming at
Speaker 5: me like get the phone. I was like, I was
Speaker 5: turning out your car, was gonna go there, just turning
Speaker 5: your lights off console, and then I was gonna, you
Speaker 5: gotta know you can't just I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4: It's a violation of people's privacy and people aren't gonna
Speaker 4: if someone's going into your car stranger, I would be, really,
Speaker 4: are you turning my lights off for me? They're gonna
Speaker 4: just think They.
Speaker 5: Were like kids, and I am like a forty year
Speaker 5: old woman.
Speaker 4: Robbing our cars with.
Speaker 5: Her dad like and cardinals outfits. I said, I was
Speaker 5: turning your lights off, and they just wanted to fight.
Speaker 5: The guy kept screaming at me like I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 5: And then we passed him on the highway and they
Speaker 5: rolled down the window and her whole body was out
Speaker 5: of the window flapping.
Speaker 3: So they gave chase.
Speaker 5: They gave Chase. My dad was so mad, he was like,
Speaker 5: why would you do that. I'm like, it's one of
Speaker 5: those things you do and then you're like, my dad
Speaker 5: was mad that I was messing with their life. The
Speaker 5: car opened, They left the car open with the light on. Yeah.
Speaker 4: A lot of people do that though, and then they
Speaker 4: just are about it, go back to their car, like
Speaker 4: maybe they were just exiting the cars.
Speaker 3: Your lights like stay on for like thirty seconds.
Speaker 5: No, this was like five minutes. And I was like,
Speaker 5: I thought they were going to come back, but they didn't,
Speaker 5: so that I was like, at this point, I should
Speaker 5: turn their lights off because now they're not coming back.
Speaker 3: But they saw they were coming back just as you
Speaker 3: were doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't know how. They must have been
Speaker 5: sneaky because I think they wanted to mess just trying
Speaker 5: to be a good sam I'm saying it.
Speaker 3: I watched this documentary series on Netflix called American Nightmare,
Speaker 3: and I cannot believe. I don't open my phone and
Speaker 3: everyone's talking about it all the time. It's so interesting.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy. This couple gets abducted, or I saw
Speaker 3: that the girl gets subducted. So these guys show up
Speaker 3: in wet suits with laser pointers in the middle.
Speaker 5: Of the night and like the goggles on them.
Speaker 3: You saw the whole thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't it wild?
Speaker 3: And Tomridan like, I'm a criminal, but I'm also doing good.
Speaker 3: Remind you of the Mare Island creeper who would break
Speaker 3: into a woman's home or he did this one time
Speaker 3: he broke into a woman's home, like like held her
Speaker 3: down and was like, now I'm going to rape you,
Speaker 3: and she was like please don't, please, please, please don't,
Speaker 3: and he goes.
Speaker 5: She said, I was already raped before.
Speaker 3: That was a different one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did it.
Speaker 3: He would always almost rape them and then they would go,
Speaker 3: I was already raped before. I've already this happened to
Speaker 3: be in my life.
Speaker 5: And he's like, okay, I won't like I said, I
Speaker 5: don't want to rentize you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that, yeah, I know, that's exactly what
Speaker 3: I said to Chris. I go, that's nice to have
Speaker 3: in my back pocket. That that's like a thing you
Speaker 3: could maybe say to them where you're like, you're not
Speaker 3: gonna you I'm already not ruined, but I'm already like
Speaker 3: traumatized by this, like because you're not gonna get like
Speaker 3: they want to still your innocence. Yeah, they want. I
Speaker 3: hate man, I know.
Speaker 4: Already.
Speaker 3: I was watching this last night. I was like, if
Speaker 3: you are a woman who gets through a whole lifetime
Speaker 3: without being sexually assaulted, you have achieved something because it
Speaker 3: just seems.
Speaker 5: Every man is out there trying to do that.
Speaker 3: This is like every man every woman is susceptible to it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And it feels like that watching these things. But what
Speaker 3: he would do is one time he attacked this woman
Speaker 3: and got into her house late at night, and then
Speaker 3: she begged him, please don't write me, and he like
Speaker 3: he like waited a second, and he goes, I can't
Speaker 3: do this, and then he goes, you really need to
Speaker 3: get a dog that would really help you from this
Speaker 3: happening again. And he was like giving her advice and yeah,
Speaker 3: and the police officer saying probably something that like he
Speaker 3: convinces himself now he's a good guy. Yeah, like maybe that,
Speaker 3: Like I don't I hate that we have to come
Speaker 3: up with ways to like not get raped, but maybe
Speaker 3: giving them a way to be a hero in it.
Speaker 5: It's called undoing. It's a defense mechanism. What do you
Speaker 5: do something bad like it? An example that I give
Speaker 5: in my classes is people with OCD to do it
Speaker 5: a lot. So you have obsessions, so you do compulsions
Speaker 5: to get undo it. But an example is if a
Speaker 5: person like steals from work or something, then they will
Speaker 5: feel bad, but it's kind of like repressed. They're feeling bad,
Speaker 5: so you will give a homeless person a dollar and
Speaker 5: the like, See, I'm a good person. I'm taking, but
Speaker 5: I'm also giving. So you undo the bad thing giving
Speaker 5: giving advice. That's why I do that.
Speaker 4: In this instance, the bad thing was not her yeah, you.
Speaker 3: And telling her to get a dog.
Speaker 5: We traumatized her by coming and breaking in her house,
Speaker 5: and then he undid it by giving her advice.
Speaker 3: I know you're going to be traumatized. I know this
Speaker 3: is going to fuck you up for a while, and
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry. Like and he's got this guy. If
Speaker 3: you guys have got to watch American Nightmare. It's so
Speaker 3: good because there's so many twists and turns. It's only
Speaker 3: three forty five minute episodes. It's not too much. They
Speaker 3: fly by. I really recommend it. We'll be back up
Speaker 3: for this. Speaking of Netflix, I'm finished with Love on
Speaker 3: the Spectrum season two and it's incredible. Connor is my
Speaker 3: favorite character no spoilers. James is another one. He's the
Speaker 3: one that talks like das and well, I do think
Speaker 3: that maybe we would be a good match. But she's
Speaker 3: a vegetarian. In the scheme of things, it isn't that bad.
Speaker 3: But and then Connor talks like this, and it's he
Speaker 3: talks like he's in a movie all the time.
Speaker 6: We have a question cute about and then Danny I
Speaker 6: think episode seven of season two from Bestie Amanda, can
Speaker 6: I read it to you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I guess it's not really a question, it's
Speaker 6: a statement. I need Nikki to talk about the cupcake
Speaker 6: scene with Danny and Adan from Love on the Spectrum.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Danny is Anya is a great impression of Danny.
Speaker 3: But she's talks like a cartoon care her because she
Speaker 3: is obsessed with animation. And she goes out with guys
Speaker 3: and she rejected this one guy because she was like,
Speaker 3: and what do you do for income? And does that
Speaker 3: make you income? She was.
Speaker 5: In the last season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was on last season too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen the new season, but I saw the
Speaker 4: last season, so I saw the clip. Is this couple
Speaker 4: weren't it a couple last season?
Speaker 3: Or they went out on a date last season? Workout?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: And so now there she's like, I have been thinking
Speaker 3: about Adam or what I think it's Adam, but they
Speaker 3: say it's weird. I have been thinking a lot about him,
Speaker 3: and I think I want to give him another chance.
Speaker 3: And so they go out on another date and he
Speaker 3: and then they kind of collick and the things are
Speaker 3: going well, and they share a kiss, and she's commenting
Speaker 3: to her aunt who she lives with, that maybe his
Speaker 3: kissing wasn't the best, but it's something that he can
Speaker 3: work on and can grow from. And she goes to
Speaker 3: the library gets all these books about sex and like
Speaker 3: TNTRA and like hell yeah, and she's like should I
Speaker 3: Sandy loves her aunt Sandy. She's like, Sandy, should I
Speaker 3: bring my books on my date? Because it's like, this
Speaker 3: is the next date where she's going to talk to
Speaker 3: him about premarital sex because he is Catholic and she's
Speaker 3: worried that he won't have sex before marriage. And she's like,
Speaker 3: that's just non negotiable for me, even though I don't
Speaker 3: think she's had sex before. But so she goes to
Speaker 3: the date and the kiss, the kiss they shared. They're
Speaker 3: always sharing kisses on the show. The kiss they shared
Speaker 3: wasn't ideal for her, and so she goes on the
Speaker 3: date and she she asked him about premi dal sex.
Speaker 3: He is so flummixed by it and like nervous. But
Speaker 3: at first he's like, and I don't believe in premiarital sex.
Speaker 3: And then he realizes like he's gonna lose her, and
Speaker 3: he's like, I could be open to the idea, and
Speaker 3: she's like, that's all I think that's a great idea,
Speaker 3: and so then and so then she's satisfied. And then
Speaker 3: she's like, I brought some cupcakes. And I was kind
Speaker 3: of half paying attended, so I don't remember if we
Speaker 3: knew about what the cup cake plan was, but she
Speaker 3: was like, I brought some cupcakes. And he's very excited
Speaker 3: about the cupcakes. Can I just say before this, like
Speaker 3: a date, before this? She Oh God, he's walking up
Speaker 3: to her like they're greeting for the first time. She
Speaker 3: runs to him. It's so cute. She's excited to see
Speaker 3: him again. And he has this ring on, this big,
Speaker 3: like silver square ring, and she was like, I like
Speaker 3: your ring and he's like, oh you do not take
Speaker 3: a look. Well please, here you go, and he pulls
Speaker 3: it off to like hand it George. She goes, thank you,
Speaker 3: so much, and he's like, well, I'm not giving.
Speaker 2: It to you.
Speaker 3: It's like reiterating that he's not. I don't think there's
Speaker 3: any worse feeling in the world than when you think
Speaker 3: someone's giving you something and they're like, well, you can't
Speaker 3: have it.
Speaker 5: No, I just say that.
Speaker 3: That's the worst is I don't don't.
Speaker 5: What I meant. Yes, Oh god, I've done it so
Speaker 5: many times. I'm like, oh, I look cute, and you're like, really,
Speaker 5: thank you. I'm like, no, I just meant you could
Speaker 5: look at it.
Speaker 3: And so he's like, well, I'm not. Uh, it's not yours.
Speaker 3: I'm not parting ways. And then he's like, but I
Speaker 3: did make you this and it's like an identical but
Speaker 3: I guess it's a little bit uglier, and she goes, oh,
Speaker 3: thank you. Well it does remind me of you, because
Speaker 3: not everything's perfect. He's not even offended. He's like thank you.
Speaker 3: And then they go on these goddamn swan boats and
Speaker 3: they're having fun and then they have they share a
Speaker 3: kiss and it's not ideal. So the next day she
Speaker 3: brings up these cupcakes and she tells him, you know,
Speaker 3: a really good way to practice kissing is to use
Speaker 3: a cupcake because you have to use your tongue and
Speaker 3: you lick it and then you like she's just telling
Speaker 3: him like, let's she's pretty much sing like that's practice kissing,
Speaker 3: Like let me teach you how to kiss by making
Speaker 3: this like a fun thing I heard about that people do.
Speaker 3: And so he just wants to eat the cupcake and
Speaker 3: she's like, well, biting's not ideal, and she's so he
Speaker 3: they are on this part in public and she is
Speaker 3: full on making out with this cupcake and trying to
Speaker 3: show him and explain it to him. And it's so
Speaker 3: funny because he he's awkward at first, like he does
Speaker 3: you can tell he doesn't want to do it, but
Speaker 3: he just likes her so much that then he buys
Speaker 3: into it. And then he calls her teach at one point, which.
Speaker 5: Is so funny because teach, Yeah, hot.
Speaker 3: It's so hot because he acknowledged that, like she's kind
Speaker 3: of being a little bit bossy and he's a little
Speaker 3: not loving it, but it's just was a way to
Speaker 3: acknowledge it. It was just so cute. But I just love,
Speaker 3: like what would I do if I was dating a
Speaker 3: guy and I hated the way he kissed I don't
Speaker 3: think i'd have the ball, just that it even takes ball.
Speaker 5: Just forcibly like push their tongue around, stop seeing them.
Speaker 3: Yeah you just like then you let all this connection
Speaker 3: go because you don't have.
Speaker 5: The courage to tell someone if we could have a cupcake.
Speaker 3: The good thing about people with autism is that and
Speaker 3: I don't think this is a blanket statement, but I
Speaker 3: think that they aren't. Not only are they not scared
Speaker 3: to tell the truth when they receive the truth about themselves,
Speaker 3: they're not as horrified as Yeah, it doesn't not as
Speaker 3: much divergent people. Yeah, they don't like attach that much
Speaker 3: meaning to it. They're like, this is one thing and
Speaker 3: there's other things going on in my life. They don't
Speaker 3: like focus all of their energy on it like we do.
Speaker 3: They don't. They're not like this means I'm a really
Speaker 3: stand person yea, and then I'm horrible. And so they
Speaker 3: can suffer a little bit of embarrassment. Like for instance,
Speaker 3: Connor is at this speed dating thing and each you know,
Speaker 3: he'll go like, well, how do you feel about nature?
Speaker 3: And the girl will be like, well, I'm kind of
Speaker 3: more of a city goal and he just like clicks
Speaker 3: and writes an X while she's sitting there under no
Speaker 3: and and you see whether it's edited that way. You
Speaker 3: see her look at it, and I've told this before.
Speaker 3: But but the guy steps it in and goes, hey,
Speaker 3: you might want to wait till they're gone before this.
Speaker 3: And he is horrified when that happened, and he's like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: I knew i'd screw it up, but he doesn't like
Speaker 3: it doesn't totally ruin his life. Like for me, if
Speaker 3: someone called out something that you've done this thing wrong
Speaker 3: twice in a row to two different people and might
Speaker 3: have hurt their feelings, I wouldn't feel so bad about it.
Speaker 3: I'd have to like leave, and they seem to just
Speaker 3: be able to roll with it.
Speaker 5: I'd have to like apologize or something too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so much, Yes, and they apologize, but I think
Speaker 3: a lot of their it's just so fascinating because they
Speaker 3: like I was telling an example to a friend last night,
Speaker 3: trying to sell them on the show, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's just the honesty is so refreshing, Like like if
Speaker 3: they're if they are on a date with someone and
Speaker 3: then they were to the person was to smell bad.
Speaker 3: They've learned enough from going to therapies and different teachers
Speaker 3: that like, it is rude to tell someone they smell bad,
Speaker 3: like they've learned that. They don't just like they know
Speaker 3: it from a rule that they rather.
Speaker 5: Their parents are like, don't say that again. They're like, okay, guys,
Speaker 5: how change.
Speaker 3: That's how we all learn it. Maybe, but for some reason,
Speaker 3: it seems like they're adhering to some kind of code
Speaker 3: that it's not like it's not just natural for them
Speaker 3: to keep things inside.
Speaker 4: Well, we take that. We have social cues and we
Speaker 4: we are able to acknowledge like the unspoken. I feel
Speaker 4: like they need to be told the rules and then
Speaker 4: they follow the rules that they want.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't have like natural pragmatism.
Speaker 3: They have to be like but they might like make
Speaker 3: a face, like if something small enough, they might be like,
Speaker 3: or they.
Speaker 5: Be like, I try this really deodorant. Maybe you could.
Speaker 5: I'll bring it to you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They're like passive, yeah, but not aggressive. It's sweet. It's
Speaker 3: like it's just there's So this show is amazing because
Speaker 3: it just highlights so many of the awkward things that
Speaker 3: happen in dating anyway, and they just kind of sit
Speaker 3: in it and and it just.
Speaker 5: Don't just address it immediately instead of you you, we
Speaker 5: would have to In a normal dating show would be like, oh,
Speaker 5: he seemed defended, but they would never admit it, and
Speaker 5: we'd have to like be trying really hard to figure
Speaker 5: out what's going on.
Speaker 3: Wait, what do you mean.
Speaker 5: In a regular dating show, if somebody is offended, we're like, oh,
Speaker 5: she said something, he looked offended. Did you see him
Speaker 5: wins or whatever. But in this show, it's like, we knows,
Speaker 5: I'm quite offended by that comment. Yes, makes everything so clear.
Speaker 3: Another thing I realized, which I think is not just
Speaker 3: people with autism, but they if you watch these shows,
Speaker 3: they don't seem to care. I want to be delicate
Speaker 3: when I say this because I don't want to make
Speaker 3: they I think this is about human nature. I think
Speaker 3: you can get a better idea of how humans really
Speaker 3: want to be and how we are in our natural
Speaker 3: state from studying people who are neurodivergent, because they're not
Speaker 3: subscribing to all these social norms that are like keeping
Speaker 3: us in the cages of like being normal or whatever,
Speaker 3: so and adhering to like this is the way I
Speaker 3: have to sit, this is the way I have to act,
Speaker 3: and so they're just human. They're very human, and so
Speaker 3: I found that on these dates. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you could give me an example of a single date,
Speaker 3: either on Love on the Spectrum or down for Love,
Speaker 3: where they actually care about what the other person is saying.
Speaker 5: I didn't even know that sounds under people. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: They ask questions because they know it's polite, but they
Speaker 3: don't ever really don't care, and they sometimes follow up
Speaker 3: because they've learned to go, tell me more about that.
Speaker 3: But I don't think they actually care what the other
Speaker 3: person is saying, and like they'll go like, that's interesting,
Speaker 3: but I and maybe they do. I don't want.
Speaker 7: To be genuine, but don't there they I don't think
Speaker 7: autistic people don't care about what other people because that's
Speaker 7: what you could maybe glean from this, because you go,
Speaker 7: it's almost like they just want to talk about how
Speaker 7: many dinosaurs they know.
Speaker 3: They don't really care about your favorite dinosaur, right, But
Speaker 3: the truth is, I think no one cares what other
Speaker 3: people think, and any sincere interest is it's kind of phony.
Speaker 5: It's just like social inhibitions that we have that they
Speaker 5: don't have.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm interested in people. I do ask
Speaker 3: about people and be like, oh my god. Like my
Speaker 3: friend that I've been working with this week, I found
Speaker 3: out his parents have both died and I was just like,
Speaker 3: tell me about like what is that like? And I
Speaker 3: was fascinating then what he went through and everything? And
Speaker 3: I'm like, was that phony of me to ask that?
Speaker 3: But what did I really care what he went through?
Speaker 3: Or am I asking for myself because I'm scared what's
Speaker 3: going to happen? Is everything self motivated? Is everything trying
Speaker 3: to get like is about me?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: I think it depends. It depends on the person. It
Speaker 4: depends on the relationship you have with the person, Like
Speaker 4: some people are like, imagine you're in love. I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess it is still self motivated. Like if you're
Speaker 4: infatuated with someone, you have a crush on someone and
Speaker 4: then you want to know everything about them at all
Speaker 4: all times. Maybe that's self motivated because you're like using
Speaker 4: that information too, yeah, or you want to like.
Speaker 5: But you look up to people and you want to
Speaker 5: know how you can be more like them. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think that's what.
Speaker 4: But I think the motivation versus are you interested in
Speaker 4: what they have to say? Is two different things. Like
Speaker 4: you could be. And also we just don't know what
Speaker 4: these what these kids are thinking on the inside, Like
Speaker 4: they could be seem they could seem like they don't care,
Speaker 4: but actually they're like registering this one. That's I want
Speaker 4: to point out that you do learn a lot from
Speaker 4: about autism from watching shows like this, but this is
Speaker 4: also like, uh, the cast they were cast it like
Speaker 4: there is I want to see. There's probably like dozens
Speaker 4: and dozens of people who interviewed for this show who
Speaker 4: got rejected because for various reasons. It's like, I don't
Speaker 4: think all autistic people act like the people on this show.
Speaker 4: These are like the best of the best. These are like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is kind so sweetest. There's probably like Jeremy, who's
Speaker 4: an autistic asshole who didn't get on the show because
Speaker 4: he kept, you know, cursing at the people who are
Speaker 4: interviewing him and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not all these gentle everything smine, yes are yes, but.
Speaker 4: The one I've worked with astic There's got to be
Speaker 4: some autistic assholes out there.
Speaker 3: I got to say people down syndrome. I got some
Speaker 3: d MS from when I would because I said this before,
Speaker 3: Like I'm sure there's some really mean, people down syndrome
Speaker 3: and people that know a lot about it are like,
Speaker 3: not really, there's not it's not a thing.
Speaker 5: It's not like they don't have the ability to be assholes,
Speaker 5: because what makes us assholes but they don't developmental stuff, Yeah,
Speaker 5: like trauma that is being processed and making us like
Speaker 5: bitter and stuff they don't like they're developed both autism
Speaker 5: and on cinder MR developmental disorders. So something got kind
Speaker 5: of stuck. Wait, don't it.
Speaker 2: Isn't down syndrome more like genetic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, chromosomal, but it allows it makes it so that,
Speaker 5: you know, cannot progress past certain levels developmentally.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite moments of this season of Love
Speaker 3: on the Spectrum is there's this guy, I forget his name.
Speaker 3: He's the one that has a really big mouth and
Speaker 3: he talks like this and he's excited all the time.
Speaker 3: He gives people high fives, he's like in that great,
Speaker 3: that's gonna be great, and he's like so excited all
Speaker 3: the time. And he's Southern. He lives in Clemson, South Carolina,
Speaker 3: and his whole thing is like I bring joy to
Speaker 3: the world. And that's kind of like I was wondering
Speaker 3: at first when he starts saying that like, is this
Speaker 3: a thing you like to do or is this a
Speaker 3: thing people have told you that you are you know,
Speaker 3: like I think some people when they have a disability,
Speaker 3: their parents in the community can be like, all you
Speaker 3: do is spread joy, and that can kind of become
Speaker 3: what they are about, even though they have so much
Speaker 3: more going on than that. But then I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: this guy seems to be really jazzed all the time,
Speaker 3: high fiving everyone, so excited to see everyone, remembers everyone's name, like,
Speaker 3: loves his life. It's just happy for everyone, so so sweet.
Speaker 3: But then he has this moment with the woman that
Speaker 3: it's like helping these people learn how to date, and
Speaker 3: is talking to them about, now, where would you stand
Speaker 3: if you were walking at the zoo with someone that
Speaker 3: you were dating. He's like, oh, I'd stand in front.
Speaker 3: I'd stand in front, and she goes, okay, let's see
Speaker 3: what that would look like. And then he walks in
Speaker 3: front and she goes, now, what's wrong with this? Is there?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 3: Can I see you right now? And he goes, no,
Speaker 3: you can't see me, ma'am, you can't see me, and
Speaker 3: she's like, well, maybe it would be better if we
Speaker 3: stood next to each other, Now, how does this feel?
Speaker 3: And so she's she's coaching him and then she gets
Speaker 3: on the phone with him and she's talking about he's
Speaker 3: he has this moment where his face kind of like
Speaker 3: looks a little worried, and she goes, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Or do you seem or are you seem nervous or
Speaker 3: you seem like you're thinking about something. He's like, I'm
Speaker 3: just scared. I'm just scared that I might not have
Speaker 3: anything to say that. And that's a big fear with
Speaker 3: all these people, is that they're gonna run out of
Speaker 3: things to say, which is so normal because that is
Speaker 3: I really relate do you love on the spectrum? Because
Speaker 3: I am someone who if you listen to my podcast
Speaker 3: during the COVID and the Not Say podcast, I was
Speaker 3: really worried about going on dates because I'm like, what
Speaker 3: if I have to, like I have to like marry
Speaker 3: them if I go on on a date, Like I
Speaker 3: was like Connor. Connor has this thing where if he
Speaker 3: says yes on a scorecard for speed dating, He's like,
Speaker 3: now I must be married to her for life and
Speaker 3: we will be buried next to each other. He's jumping
Speaker 3: so far ahead, but that's I totally relate to that, like,
Speaker 3: and his family's all like, Connor, dude, this is just
Speaker 3: about meeting someone. You meeting someone you don't need to
Speaker 3: This isn't gonna be the girl you married, doesn't have
Speaker 3: to be that. But I'm like, I used to jump
Speaker 3: to that too, so I really related to that. But
Speaker 3: she says to him, he's like, I'm really worried. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna have anything to say. And she's like, well,
Speaker 3: that's okay. You can be quiet, you know, like just
Speaker 3: because you're not talking doesn't mean you're not having a
Speaker 3: good time. You guys can sit in silence together. And
Speaker 3: he's like, okay, okay, and she goes, is there a
Speaker 3: part of you that feels like you always have to
Speaker 3: be happy and smiling. He's like, yes, ma'am, Yes there is, Yes,
Speaker 3: there is. And it's just like all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: this like this, they peeled back this layer of him,
Speaker 3: and she was like, I'm sensing that is it true
Speaker 3: that if if you don't he might even have said
Speaker 3: it that if he's not smiling all the time, people
Speaker 3: will think he's mad, and like, for some reason, that
Speaker 3: to him is so scary that someone could think he
Speaker 3: was mad, And boy, I think everyone can relate to
Speaker 3: that of like if you if I'm not participating in
Speaker 3: the conversation lively and I'm not smiling and like laughing,
Speaker 3: people might get people everyone might assume I'm mad, And
Speaker 3: it's like I sometimes have to like fake it just
Speaker 3: so people don't just wait, don't become a focus of
Speaker 3: attention like Nicky's mad, because I do think people sometimes
Speaker 3: don't smile and don't laugh and don't participate in conversation
Speaker 3: because they want everyone to know that they're mad, yes,
Speaker 3: And I don't want that. Sometimes I just don't have
Speaker 3: the energy. Yes, So sometimes you have to like get
Speaker 3: it up because you're like, I just don't want to
Speaker 3: be someone who looks like that. So it's all these
Speaker 3: like struggles that they have are so relatable and like
Speaker 3: I love on the dates when they just talk about
Speaker 3: like what are you looking for and a partner and
Speaker 3: and they're just like, do you want a handsome boy?
Speaker 3: And she's like yes, She's like do you wanna do
Speaker 3: you want a partner that talks a lot? Yes? Do
Speaker 3: you want someone who likes cupcakes? Yes? And like they
Speaker 3: just like they just fire off these questions, but they're
Speaker 3: like asking for validation that they are liked in this moment,
Speaker 3: and it's just like it's just so honest and so sweet,
Speaker 3: and it really does make you think, like, man, if
Speaker 3: I had like a big family, I'd want one of
Speaker 3: my kids to be autistic because it makes everyone so empathetic. Like,
Speaker 3: and this isn't every family, And you're right, they'd hand
Speaker 3: selected like these families to be really examples of amazing
Speaker 3: families that these people grew up with. Yeah, but Connor's family,
Speaker 3: for instance, like the cool daughter who's like nineteen and hot,
Speaker 3: and then the son who's like twenty two and just
Speaker 3: like a total like Georgia hot, a college guy. They're
Speaker 3: both like you would think that they would be like
Speaker 3: so TikTok checked out, but they're both so emotionally involved
Speaker 3: in like and touched by their older brother who's autistic,
Speaker 3: and they're just so there's so much more down to
Speaker 3: earth and mature than I think they would be if
Speaker 3: they didn't have that. I think it's good for a
Speaker 3: family fact that's about people down to the drum in
Speaker 3: NASA and they're it's a new reality show.
Speaker 2: Well just to.
Speaker 3: Burst.
Speaker 6: Like I feel like sometimes I come in and I
Speaker 6: take a pin and I just pop burst it a bubble,
Speaker 6: come on in. So, uh, you know the thing with
Speaker 6: families and autistic kids. I have a friend and he
Speaker 6: has two sons with like really severe autism, and the
Speaker 6: you know, like the difficult side of that is that
Speaker 6: he and his wife have to live in two separate
Speaker 6: homes with each son. And the sons, you know, they
Speaker 6: have like, well, at least the one that I met,
Speaker 6: hash verbal difficulties and in schools and stuff with teachers.
Speaker 6: Only now and he's I think he's a senior in
Speaker 6: high school. He can be with a teacher alone because
Speaker 6: he would have violent outbursts and like the dad has
Speaker 6: shown me the bruising and everything, and it's not like malicious,
Speaker 6: it's just you know, how this kid copes and stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm not saying, yeah, it's a specter.
Speaker 5: That are high up on the spectrum on the show.
Speaker 4: When I was growing up on Long Island and my
Speaker 4: neighbor lived in a little house, uh, he was autistic
Speaker 4: and he had a wife and he would every few
Speaker 4: years he would beat his wife. And we knew that
Speaker 4: he beat his wife because he had a pattern where
Speaker 4: he would beat his wife and then he would strip
Speaker 4: down naked, and then he would walk around town. And
Speaker 4: whenever this guy was walking around town naked, we knew
Speaker 4: he'd just beat his wife because then he could go
Speaker 4: back to his house and his wife would be there.
Speaker 4: And then just one time and he would He used
Speaker 4: to throw potatoes over the fence into my yard to
Speaker 4: try to get my dog to eat the potatoes, and
Speaker 4: we asked him to stop, and then he did stop,
Speaker 4: and then he started throwing peanut butter and jelly sandwiches
Speaker 4: over the fence, and we said, no, it applies to
Speaker 4: all foods, please don't. But then one day he beat
Speaker 4: his wife. His wife called the police. He was stripping
Speaker 4: down naked, and then the cops came to his house
Speaker 4: and he tried to take one of the cops guns. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and so then he went to jail after that, and
Speaker 4: they had to move out of the house and then
Speaker 4: the house was knocked down. But uh, that guy then
Speaker 4: he looted it. That guy, yeah, and then I took
Speaker 4: his bath. But that guy's not going to be on
Speaker 4: love on the spectrum any times, dude.
Speaker 3: No, he's not.
Speaker 2: There's like a there's that.
Speaker 3: It's just it's a heartwarming show, and it makes me
Speaker 3: really like love, love, the idea of family and and
Speaker 3: just yeah, it's just and and love and also it
Speaker 3: just is it's just study in human nature. And then
Speaker 3: I turned on American Nightmare, and I'm like, what the
Speaker 3: fuck is this shit? I mean, that's just like God,
Speaker 3: I thought, you know what, I was almost glad about it,
Speaker 3: because I think we've gotten away from this like believe
Speaker 3: all women thing, Like I think in recent years, I
Speaker 3: think there was an influx of like, if a woman
Speaker 3: says she's raped, let's just trust her by default, and
Speaker 3: then there was like a backlash to that again. And
Speaker 3: now I think this show is like showing again like
Speaker 3: can we just just start believing women because in the city,
Speaker 3: say that this girl is not believed about being ready,
Speaker 3: Like there's trigger warnings all over this thing if you
Speaker 3: are assault victims.
Speaker 5: That's why I allegedly steal cop cars to get back.
Speaker 3: But then but then there's there's there's there's a happy ending,
Speaker 3: there's good things about this.
Speaker 4: It's pretty wild how quickly that came and went. I
Speaker 4: feel like we believed women for like two and a
Speaker 4: half years.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like that too. It really went away.
Speaker 5: There's another thing on Netflix about that. I can't remember
Speaker 5: what it's called, but it's about a girl. And then
Speaker 5: it goes into lots of different stories about women that
Speaker 5: aren't believed and prosecuted for lying about rapes that were
Speaker 5: actually committed on them, so they get in trouble for
Speaker 5: admitting it. Oh, which I'm not. I don't think I
Speaker 5: can watch it because I'll get too.
Speaker 3: No, I can get too. Can you imagine if we're
Speaker 3: not even like assault victims, like we don't have that
Speaker 3: we can speak for myself. I don't have that. That
Speaker 3: his street and even I was just like enraged watching this,
Speaker 3: and I was just like, it's just like you being
Speaker 3: at k.
Speaker 5: You remember, Curson had a boyfriend who's whose email dress
Speaker 5: was enraged at ku dot com. So whenever heard the
Speaker 5: word enraged, I think enraged at Ku.
Speaker 3: God. I wonder if my old college email addresses what's going.
Speaker 5: Crypt keeper is hot at hotmail dot com. I hope
Speaker 5: it's not taken.
Speaker 3: That was yours.
Speaker 5: For a while, I was wait email dress till I
Speaker 5: was like twenty six, and then I was like, I
Speaker 5: guess I should change it.
Speaker 3: Mine was Dave Matthews is hot, but it looks like
Speaker 3: Dave Matthews.
Speaker 5: I shot, No, my friends thought it was crypt keeper.
Speaker 3: I shot, yeah, yeah, that's what it does look like.
Speaker 3: But I had that for hours.
Speaker 5: Were another Mickey Rooney in three two one that was
Speaker 5: like our joint account.
Speaker 4: Mine was it's got a break.
Speaker 3: Okay, no wait, okay, well we'll find it when we
Speaker 3: get back from the break. We'll find out. All right,
Speaker 3: we're back, Brian, what was your first what was your
Speaker 3: weirdest email address?
Speaker 4: Wasn't weird? It was Goldenslumbers thirty one at aol dot com,
Speaker 4: which because of the song, because of the song my
Speaker 4: favorite Beatles song, and I just an embarrassing moment. There
Speaker 4: was probably the most popular girl in my high school.
Speaker 4: We were on AIM and there's another I'm Brian, and
Speaker 4: there's another kid in my high school class also named Brian,
Speaker 4: and his last name was Golden, so his name was
Speaker 4: Brian Golden, and my address was my aame name was
Speaker 4: Golden Slumbers thirty one, which is confusing to people in
Speaker 4: my high school. But then one day I just worked
Speaker 4: up the courage to aim instant message the most popular
Speaker 4: girl in my school, and I said hey, and Brian,
Speaker 4: and she's got Golden Brian and she was like, who
Speaker 4: is this? And I said, this is Brian and she
Speaker 4: and then she talked to me thinking I was Brian
Speaker 4: Golden the whole time, and I actually think that they
Speaker 4: started dating. But because of you, I did that thing,
Speaker 4: like do you. I did that stupid thing that people
Speaker 4: do when they're in high school and they're losers and
Speaker 4: they go, guess who this is? They go, hey, what's up? Hey,
Speaker 4: what's up? Hey? Dot dot dot? Who is this?
Speaker 3: And I was like, guess, oh, you still remember, dott,
Speaker 3: I remember every part of that. And then she was
Speaker 3: there anyone.
Speaker 4: Brian Golden And I was like no, because I said money,
Speaker 4: I said it's Brian. She said Brian Golden. I was
Speaker 4: like no eventually, but then I then it made me
Speaker 4: realize that, oh wait, I am that this is confusing.
Speaker 4: It would be like thirty one, right, It would be
Speaker 4: like if someone named Nikki in your high school had
Speaker 4: an aim name that was like Glazer Ross three oh
Speaker 4: one or something.
Speaker 3: Yes, so, but did you have any like when you
Speaker 3: would go through that and you have this aim conversation
Speaker 3: and you're like thinking so much about it and you
Speaker 3: remember exactly the Hey dot the and like, did you
Speaker 3: have guy friends that you would like call and be like, man,
Speaker 3: I just I am you know, I just a I
Speaker 3: am No. I think that was just a process. It alone.
Speaker 3: Embarrassment sad for people who don't have never share about it. Like,
Speaker 3: there's rarely something embarrassing that happens to me that I
Speaker 3: can't share with someone.
Speaker 5: Immediately, my pants immediately.
Speaker 3: Immediately, there's a place to go where everybody knows name.
Speaker 4: I took my live with the consequences until today and
Speaker 4: where I shared it with you.
Speaker 2: Well, so how did you realize that she thought you
Speaker 2: were the.
Speaker 4: Other Brian because she said Brian Golden and I said.
Speaker 3: Hopefully exactly.
Speaker 4: He was more popular than me at the time. I
Speaker 4: think we kind of evened out eventually. He was much
Speaker 4: more popular than me. He like surfed, he like skateboarded.
Speaker 4: I think he was on the football team, and I
Speaker 4: was just like, I like, uh.
Speaker 3: Was Frandre, don't Yeah?
Speaker 4: That year, that was the year I got rejected from
Speaker 4: the high school improv team, which was dissolved, and then
Speaker 4: I was also rejected from the volleyball team. The men's
Speaker 4: volleyball I tried out for the men's volleyball team. The
Speaker 4: first year and the first year I tried out, it
Speaker 4: was a walk on team, like you could just join
Speaker 4: the team, because no men wanted to be on the team.
Speaker 4: This isn't California, this is New York. There's not men's volleyball.
Speaker 4: So they were just like, if you want to play
Speaker 4: men's volleyball, go ahead, I guess. And so it's a coach,
Speaker 4: there's no.
Speaker 5: Guess, go ahead, wear shorts.
Speaker 4: So I went and I and I went to the open.
Speaker 4: Uh just walk on. And they decided that year, for
Speaker 4: the first year, they were going to do cuts, and
Speaker 4: they cut two people, Me and this other guy, Seth Levy,
Speaker 4: who is uh is you know? Seth Levy looks like
Speaker 4: what you would imagine a nerdy guy who wouldn't get
Speaker 4: cut from the that would get cut from the volleyball
Speaker 4: team would look like, yeah, and you're a tall guy.
Speaker 4: I was pretty tall. And then the next year, I
Speaker 4: think Seth Levey made the team, I'm pretty sure, and
Speaker 4: I was the only one that got cut got out
Speaker 4: of God, they were I don't know. And then well
Speaker 4: that's why I survived it by doing this the musicals,
Speaker 4: I moved on I said sports. I can't make the
Speaker 4: basketball team, I can't make the volleyball team. I guess
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be in musicals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of I wasn't good at sports, but
Speaker 3: I wanted to do sports because my friends did it,
Speaker 3: and I wanted to just hang out with my friends.
Speaker 3: That's why I did field hockey. And then all my
Speaker 3: friends made varsity and I was still JV. I just
Speaker 3: didn't want to do it anymore. I had a horrible
Speaker 3: stints once too. I couldn't walk, And then that's when
Speaker 3: I auditioned for plays and I wasn't even getting Yeah,
Speaker 3: you carried me when I had horrible I couldn't walk
Speaker 3: with my It was you were like screaming.
Speaker 5: I was like, I couldn't even.
Speaker 3: It was wild.
Speaker 5: What happened into me with my shinsplins like your bone
Speaker 5: have a little like there's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the it gets when you slap your foot down.
Speaker 3: I had like anterior shin splints. So when you were
Speaker 3: your foot slaps down when you're running, that muscle gets
Speaker 3: like stretched too much and it's, oh, you know, it
Speaker 3: just gets overstretched.
Speaker 5: And I thought it was like the bone.
Speaker 3: Oh it's not the Yeah, it's like tendon ninis on
Speaker 3: your shins, and it was I had been both and
Speaker 3: it was horrible. But I loved it because you could
Speaker 3: push on it and like hurt it, and it felt
Speaker 3: so it hurt to walk, but when you push on it,
Speaker 3: but if you ran with shion splints didn't hurt walking horrible,
Speaker 3: it would go away. It's almost like my foot pint pain.
Speaker 3: When I'm wearing high heels on stage, I don't feel
Speaker 3: it at all, and then the second I saw off
Speaker 3: the stage, it starts hurting. It's so strange. But I
Speaker 3: I remember I auditioned for the Diary of Anne Frank
Speaker 3: and I really thought I was going to get it.
Speaker 5: I thought I was.
Speaker 3: Gonna get the lead. Yeah, I could wear a wig. Yes,
Speaker 3: I knew I was going to get it. And not
Speaker 3: only did I not get it, I got Jewish townsperson.
Speaker 4: Oh my god be.
Speaker 3: And that's I think. Actually, that's when I went back
Speaker 3: to field hockey. I was going to leave field hockey.
Speaker 3: Then I went to Jewish experience is me and my Yeah,
Speaker 3: my joke was that the position I played for a
Speaker 3: field hockey was a Jewish townsperson. B That's how it
Speaker 3: felt like I was always just like, I just wanted
Speaker 3: to be bench the whole time. I just wanted to
Speaker 3: wear the skirts, have fun. That little you know, that
Speaker 3: tape that they foam like foam rap that they wrap
Speaker 3: over injuries. We used to take that and tie it
Speaker 3: and make it a hair band.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 4: So on brand for Nicki Glazer. Like Nicki Glazers riding
Speaker 4: the bench, That's that's what she wants to do. You
Speaker 4: don't want to play in the game, but you love
Speaker 4: sitting there.
Speaker 3: I don't want balls coming at me where I have
Speaker 3: to do something with it and all the attentions on me.
Speaker 3: And I'm going to let on a whole team now
Speaker 3: if it's me and the ball alone, yeah, let me
Speaker 3: figure out how to do this. It's all me. You
Speaker 3: can't compare me to anything actively. I like solo sports,
Speaker 3: I like swimming, I like running. I want to be alone.
Speaker 3: I don't want other people to depend on me, and
Speaker 3: I don't. And I would like to depend on others,
Speaker 3: but I don't. I don't want them to have to
Speaker 3: depend on me.
Speaker 4: You get to go to the pasta party before the game,
Speaker 4: you go to Pizza Hut after the game. You get
Speaker 4: to ride the bus together, and then you get to
Speaker 4: the game. You don't have to do anything.
Speaker 3: And you get to be done.
Speaker 4: At some point.
Speaker 3: You the bus sea swim practice, going into people's lockers,
Speaker 3: stealing things, not even steeling things, just stealing photographs.
Speaker 5: Had we stole cowboy hats one time? We did?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we wore them all around. And you were
Speaker 3: a really bad influence.
Speaker 4: He would the locker and be like, but you left
Speaker 4: your flashlight on. That's why I want.
Speaker 3: Into injection, the constant fucking rejection of being bad at
Speaker 3: everything you try.
Speaker 4: You got to be told where's your name? But it
Speaker 4: also forges great. I mean, you need to be slammed
Speaker 4: down again and again, and most of those people will
Speaker 4: just dwindle and languish.
Speaker 3: If I wouldn't have fallen to stand up, what would
Speaker 3: I have I could have? I was just throw I
Speaker 3: couldn't do any there was nothing else for me to do.
Speaker 3: I was not good at anything. I was not exceptional.
Speaker 5: And you're very smart. You could do lots of smart things.
Speaker 3: But I didn't. I didn't None of them were impressive
Speaker 3: to people, and I wasn't that smart. I were really
Speaker 3: I was. I got a's and b's, I wasn't I
Speaker 3: couldn't get straight in.
Speaker 6: Oh, just imagine all the TV and movies you could
Speaker 6: have done in the background.
Speaker 3: Saying all the townspeople bees. I could have been and
Speaker 3: I just would have I don't know what I would
Speaker 3: have done, but it's just that that like just feeling
Speaker 3: like you're you're like yesterday, I cried in my voice
Speaker 3: lesson because I'm like.
Speaker 1: I am so tired of being average in here, Like
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of not being exceptional in any part
Speaker 1: of this process.
Speaker 3: There's not even one part of singing that I'm good
Speaker 3: at that I'm just a natural at, Like, well, you
Speaker 3: get that under control. But I try so hard and
Speaker 3: that's the problem. It's like it's just not clicking for me.
Speaker 3: And I cried and and he was really nice about it,
Speaker 3: and he always lets me cry in there because it
Speaker 3: often comes out in there. And he and because I
Speaker 3: was going into final thought, I was, I have to
Speaker 3: I'm writing a song and performing a song for my
Speaker 3: special that's gonna go with the end of my special,
Speaker 3: because yeah, you didn't know that's what happened. So I
Speaker 3: was gonna like pick a song, but to even so,
Speaker 3: there's no budget left like we've used all the money
Speaker 3: and so there's no money left, so anything would come
Speaker 3: out of my pocket to even check on how much
Speaker 3: a song is going to be. It's eight hundred dollars,
Speaker 3: so that's out of my pocket to even go like,
Speaker 3: why can I use this song.
Speaker 5: Sang for what part of that costs eight hundred Just
Speaker 5: no idea.
Speaker 3: It's just a charge so they can make more money.
Speaker 3: And then you find out it's gonna be thirty thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: So it's eight o dollars to find out it's gonna
Speaker 3: be thirty thousand dollars, which I'm not spending thirty thousand
Speaker 3: dollars on a song. I'm just not gonna do it.
Speaker 3: So then I was like, Okay, well, maybe I can
Speaker 3: use one of Anya's songs, one of Matt pond songs,
Speaker 3: but if they cut me a deal, it's gonna be
Speaker 3: ten thousand, you know, Like I'm sorry, I just don't
Speaker 3: have that money to toss around. And it's at the
Speaker 3: end of the thing, it's not as you know, important
Speaker 3: as like the first song. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I said to Chris, like what if I like write
Speaker 3: a song and like record it, that'll only cost me
Speaker 3: a couple thousand to produce it, and if I write
Speaker 3: it myself, I don't to pay myself to do that.
Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, I mean if you want
Speaker 3: to do that, but I could. And then we just
Speaker 3: put the pieces into motion and called his brother Tim,
Speaker 3: who is uh, you know, in the band Ludo and
Speaker 3: knows a ton of music people and he knows this,
Speaker 3: you know, pop produce because I wanted to be like
Speaker 3: a pop song. So he knows this pop producer and
Speaker 3: from Chicago named uh Dan Monahan. He's in a band
Speaker 3: called the Dog and Everything. Dog and Everything and they're
Speaker 3: kind of popular. But do you remember that.
Speaker 5: Band kind that sounds really familiar?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Was it nineties?
Speaker 3: It's like a midots early two thousands into like later
Speaker 3: two thousands, so and they're still together. So anyway, he
Speaker 3: flies down to Saint Louis. We're in the recording studio
Speaker 3: all week. I They're like, it's gonna be easy, just
Speaker 3: come in, we'll write a song. And I'm like, what,
Speaker 3: I don't I have no idea here. I can't just
Speaker 3: like show up. And this is like, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: paying someone for their time, so I'm not gonna waste
Speaker 3: someone's time of being like, so I just wanted to
Speaker 3: need to write a song, like what do you guys have?
Speaker 3: And I and I want to control it. So I
Speaker 3: kind of like came up with something to bring in anyway,
Speaker 3: we write this song, and and yesterday we were getting
Speaker 3: into more of it, and so I went to a
Speaker 3: voice lesson to like prepare to sing it, and and
Speaker 3: this voicelessen. I'm just like, I just don't even deserve
Speaker 3: to be making this song. And he's like, you need
Speaker 3: to stop this. And I was like, it's like it's
Speaker 3: really interesting advice because it's just like it's not like
Speaker 3: where do you think this fear is coming from? What
Speaker 3: what does this fear represent? He was just like, shut up,
Speaker 3: you need to flip a switch and stop it. Like
Speaker 3: it's just he goes, you just need to. You just
Speaker 3: have to. There's no other choice, Like you don't have to.
Speaker 3: You have to choose to stop feeling that way. You
Speaker 3: have to choose to believe that you deserve this and
Speaker 3: that this is what you need to do. And it's
Speaker 3: not really that, it's not really that complicated. You just
Speaker 3: gotta do it, like you gotta do anything, like you
Speaker 3: got to show up for work, like you gotta make
Speaker 3: your plane even though you're tired, Like you just have
Speaker 3: to do it. And so it was just like this.
Speaker 3: I don't know how he really got to me, but
Speaker 3: for some reason a thing flipped where it was just
Speaker 3: like it's not And then I was watching all these
Speaker 3: tiktoks and there's been an influx of reels about I guess.
Speaker 3: Tony Robbins was on the THEOVONN podcast and he was like,
Speaker 3: did you see that clip of like look around the room?
Speaker 3: He tells him to look around the room and look
Speaker 3: at everything yellow. Make it, make a document of everything
Speaker 3: yellow in this room. Okay, all right, now close your eyes. Now,
Speaker 3: if I told you to tell me everything that's red
Speaker 3: in this could you.
Speaker 5: Tell me No, I can't think of even one thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, So now look around, look at all the red things. Okay,
Speaker 3: there's there's hints of red. Now what that proves is
Speaker 3: if you're looking for it, you'll find it. If you're
Speaker 3: if your story you're telling you're about yourself is I'm shit,
Speaker 3: You're gonna find evidence of that all the time. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're looking for evidence that I'm great, you're gonna
Speaker 3: find that everywhere, and when you're looking at red, how
Speaker 3: many things are you kind of like, well, that's maroon,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna say it's red just so I have
Speaker 3: another red thing. So you're gonna not only take, but
Speaker 3: it's kind of a shade of red. So what you'll
Speaker 3: do if you like look at the world of like,
Speaker 3: let me find evidence I'm great, You'll think you'll you'll
Speaker 3: take even things that aren't that great, and you'll amplify
Speaker 3: them just to find evidence. So it's like it was
Speaker 3: just a good little reminder of like just act as if.
Speaker 3: But then it's like you feel so stupid, uh like pretending,
Speaker 3: and then you start to like compare and you can't compare.
Speaker 3: But why can't you compare? Of course you can compare.
Speaker 3: There are people that are better. But then go, well,
Speaker 3: some people don't even some people don't want to hear
Speaker 3: a perfect voice. Sometimes people want to hear a fucked
Speaker 3: up voice. And it's like I know that, but like
Speaker 3: most people want to hear a good.
Speaker 4: Voice, right, Yeah, it's the smart person's you're too smart.
Speaker 4: You're too smart to to accept things like that that'll
Speaker 4: make you happy. You really need to learn the art
Speaker 4: of pretending. To be stupid. You have to just be
Speaker 4: stupid and then you will stop questioning that Tony Robbins
Speaker 4: thing and you will just be happier. Smart people need
Speaker 4: to pretend to be That's all it is. It's just
Speaker 4: learn to be stupid and stop questioning everything and stop
Speaker 4: figuring out reasons why the things are the way they are.
Speaker 3: And yeah, because I I appreciate your my problem that
Speaker 3: you're saying, my problem is I'm too smart, But like
Speaker 3: I have been doing this thing recently where I call
Speaker 3: it robot mode, where if I'm so overwhelmed by a
Speaker 3: feeling or like feeling this despair or feeling bad about
Speaker 3: myself or hating myself, I'm like turn into a robot
Speaker 3: and protend just do what a robot would do. I
Speaker 3: need feel, I need to sleep, I need to sit
Speaker 3: like oh, like I was on a plane and I
Speaker 3: was about to like I was in a really cramped seat,
Speaker 3: and I was about to fire off an email being
Speaker 3: like why am I in boarding group seeing all these things?
Speaker 3: And then I was just like a robot wouldn't care
Speaker 3: about their seat. They would just like be They're just
Speaker 3: a room, my room, but doesn't go like I can't
Speaker 3: believe I have to fucking do this today. You know,
Speaker 3: it just is like I'm a robot, so.
Speaker 4: You're getting to that point pick up your cereal once.
Speaker 3: I think the next model got a little in about
Speaker 3: But yeah, like I think there's something to that of
Speaker 3: like just make your robots obviously are there's an intelligence
Speaker 3: to them, but there's not like an emotionality, so like
Speaker 3: turn it off, be more robotic, don't feel everything. But
Speaker 3: then some would argue that feeling is gonna go somewhere
Speaker 3: and it's gonna fucking You're gonna have to deal with
Speaker 3: the creative. But that's creativity also, so you don't want
Speaker 3: to deprive yourself of your your feelings because that's ye.
Speaker 4: Red eye and fly eight hours to.
Speaker 2: Get we're talking about the songwriting process.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the song thing though, like the robot thing is
Speaker 3: like I'll turn into a songwriting robot. Like songwriting robots
Speaker 3: do not feel. They do not have self awareness of
Speaker 3: like you've never done this before. They're not like focused
Speaker 3: on like this is the first time you've done this.
Speaker 3: So even like three out of four of your best
Speaker 3: friends sing better than you do, uh, like you uh,
Speaker 3: you have to pay people to even want to do
Speaker 3: this with you because you're such a joke. You're your
Speaker 3: Bob Saggetts. Song got made fun of so much. This
Speaker 3: is gonna get made fun of too, Like I have
Speaker 3: to turn off all of the robot would not take
Speaker 3: that data and make robot just make song. I make
Speaker 3: I'm song robot, and you just do it. And and
Speaker 3: it's so tough. And writing songs is cool because it's
Speaker 3: better than writing jokes. It's it's harder. I think we've
Speaker 3: talked about this before, but now there's a song that exists,
Speaker 3: a full song that didn't exist two days ago, and
Speaker 3: I will know it forever because you don't forget joke.
Speaker 3: You don't forget songs like you forget jokes like I
Speaker 3: forget jokes I told on a special ago. I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh I don't. I watch myself sometimes and be like,
Speaker 3: how's this one gonna end? And I have no fucking clue.
Speaker 3: But I'll never ever forget the song. It's like this
Speaker 3: thing just came out of nowhere. It's like I'm an
Speaker 3: engineer that developed built a computer. Like it just feels
Speaker 3: like that's a really cool thing.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you were making like hundreds and
Speaker 4: hundreds of songs though, like, do you remember the song
Speaker 4: you sung on F Boy, No, that's a song.
Speaker 3: If you started singing it, I would probably be able
Speaker 3: to pick it up.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I also think perform I mean, if you
Speaker 4: have the musical talent to play an instrument, I think
Speaker 4: performing music is easier than performing comedy because you're not
Speaker 4: relying on the audience's reaction. For I mean, people could
Speaker 4: be talking over your musical set and it's like kind
Speaker 4: of normal. But comedy you have to like engage with
Speaker 4: the audience and get and get it, and you're trying
Speaker 4: to elicit a specific response from them, and that's scary.
Speaker 3: It's so when I go to my dad's gigs, people
Speaker 3: talk the whole time. No one's paying attention. It literally
Speaker 3: is like just music playing in an elevator, like no
Speaker 3: one gives it and it's this guy singing, and it's like,
Speaker 3: people don't just sit and listen to music unless it's
Speaker 3: like background noise. But if you were performing in the
Speaker 3: same places that my dad is, and you were a
Speaker 3: comedian and people were talking over it, it would be
Speaker 3: you would look and singing yeah, and it would be
Speaker 3: so embarrassing. It's and my dad definitely feels it. And
Speaker 3: it's just like, ah, they were talking a lot, like
Speaker 3: and it bums them out a little bit. But it's
Speaker 3: not like I had the worst show ever. Whereas if
Speaker 3: people were talking that much during the comedy show, you
Speaker 3: there is not If people don't listen to you, there's nothing.
Speaker 4: You would start yelling at them. That's what you try.
Speaker 4: Imagine if your dad started he was playing the shut
Speaker 4: of dates.
Speaker 3: You know, But I'm really excited about the song is
Speaker 3: a fucking bop. It's so fun. It's like uplifting, but
Speaker 3: it's depressing and it's like it's everything that I wanted
Speaker 3: to be. It might be the exact now that you're
Speaker 3: thinking thinking about it, I'm like, I think I maybe
Speaker 3: used the same melody as the not but I mean
Speaker 3: I wrote that. I don't think I did. But like
Speaker 3: that's the problem with writing songs, is like you were like,
Speaker 3: this is another song, like this sounds too catchy, that
Speaker 3: this can't be something that I stole from?
Speaker 5: Are they not all taken like every melody? How has
Speaker 5: it not already been done? I know?
Speaker 3: And I sent them like three different tailors songs where
Speaker 3: I'm like I think this is what I think I
Speaker 3: stole this from her and they're like, no, it's just
Speaker 3: like you're inspired by her. But this isn't this isn't.
Speaker 4: This like Three Blind Mice. That's just hot cross Buns and.
Speaker 3: Twinkle tink a Little Star is happy Birthday or something?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all like the same chord.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no, it's tingle tinkle little Star. It's oh
Speaker 3: A B C D E F G.
Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 5: Anything else is the birthday song? Because that song's a hell.
Speaker 2: The birthday song?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the birth happened? Yeah, that is hell.
Speaker 4: Hell. You can't sing that? Actually? Is that not allowed
Speaker 4: now that you can sing happy birthday?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think it's like with Mickey Mouse. It's
Speaker 3: public domain.
Speaker 5: Now. For years, you couldn't say it on TV or something,
Speaker 5: no birthday on TVs that you're.
Speaker 3: Saying, yeah, for until like a couple of it became yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: the birthdays, the birthday family losers.
Speaker 5: Yeah they're dead now because I can say they're losers.
Speaker 5: But public domain.
Speaker 3: I was thinking this is maybe one of the this
Speaker 3: is a controversial thing, but I was thinking when we
Speaker 3: were talking about buying music to do for my special.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what I could do? Probably, No,
Speaker 3: this is nuts and Swifties, don't get mad at me.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying if I were an evil person, this
Speaker 3: is what I would do. I could probably buy an
Speaker 3: Oridge an old Taylor Swift song from Scooter Braun for
Speaker 3: very cheap, because no one's listening to those, the original versions,
Speaker 3: the Taylor's version. It's sacrilegious to even because she reades
Speaker 3: Sitter listening to the originals because she doesn't own them
Speaker 3: and she redid them all and we don't need those anymore,
Speaker 3: like they're done, like and but I could probably buy
Speaker 3: them for nothing. And I could have a Taylor Swift
Speaker 3: original song in my special for very cheap if I
Speaker 3: was but.
Speaker 5: I would be be boycotted.
Speaker 3: Well yeah that's what I'm saying. But it's just it's
Speaker 3: just funny that I could, and it would be the
Speaker 3: most the greatest artist of all time I could have.
Speaker 3: I can't even afford us a song from an artist
Speaker 3: you've never even heard of, because they're thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: But I could probably get a Taylor Swift song for
Speaker 3: a couple grand from Scooter bron because no one's using them,
Speaker 3: no one, and he would probably sell it to me.
Speaker 5: Just to spike her scooter for one.
Speaker 3: But that's just like I find it to be very
Speaker 3: interesting that that could be the case that you could
Speaker 3: have the most famous singer songwriter on the planet. I
Speaker 3: have one of their songs for very cheap. If you
Speaker 3: go about if you pretty much, if you have no
Speaker 3: screws you want to if you yeah, But I would
Speaker 3: never even do that, But it's just funny that you could.
Speaker 3: The opportunity is there. It would be legal, that's wild.
Speaker 4: I don't know which one I would use if it's
Speaker 4: for sale and we don't know how much it's gonna cost,
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 5: Or they would charge a lot.
Speaker 4: You would think they would show up in like commercials
Speaker 4: and stuff like there. There's there's evil people out there
Speaker 4: who would love to let the Taylor Swift song. I
Speaker 4: think they could get away with it.
Speaker 3: If a single, no they the Swifties. No, if it's
Speaker 3: spread around that at and t was using you know,
Speaker 3: blank space from the original nineteen eighty nine, it would
Speaker 3: be it. I mean, Taylor, it would be over like
Speaker 3: they their stock would drop like it would be horrible.
Speaker 5: But what about the radio. Don't they play the old ones?
Speaker 3: They shouldn't anything the radio.
Speaker 5: When it comes on.
Speaker 3: Well, they also new ones. New ones sound the same.
Speaker 3: They sound exactly the same. Her voice is more mature
Speaker 3: and are arguably a lot better. But she really she
Speaker 3: got all the same musicians, did everything exactly the same,
Speaker 3: which is the amazing part about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, that's.
Speaker 3: All I have to say. We gotta go. We gotta
Speaker 3: go record this song. But I'm excited for people to
Speaker 3: hear and I hope I get to play it at
Speaker 3: shows and stuff. It'll be so fun. Thank you for
Speaker 3: listening to the podcast. We're going to be at the
Speaker 3: super Bowl next week. I'm excited about that, but we
Speaker 3: have some shows for you before then. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: I am going to be on tour again in March.
Speaker 3: I'm taking February off. I'm also going to the Grammys
Speaker 3: last wing. Wow, I'm not going to I could go
Speaker 3: to the Grammys, but I got invited to Stephen Tyler's
Speaker 3: Grammy party, and that I've.
Speaker 5: Heard is funny. Really have to take my pictures, get
Speaker 5: into his closet.
Speaker 3: And there's gonna be like I don't think it's at
Speaker 3: his house, but I could be wrong. He's hosting anyway,
Speaker 3: the same vocal cord Surgeon. I'm just flying to la
Speaker 3: just for that party, but I think I might if
Speaker 3: Dealers With is performing at the Grammys. I'm going to
Speaker 3: try to go to the Grammys and then go to
Speaker 3: the party afterwards. But I think I just want to
Speaker 3: go to the party instead of the Grammys because the
Speaker 3: party is I think the Black Keys are playing at
Speaker 3: the party like they have.
Speaker 4: Like huge performers. Yes, you might be able to get
Speaker 4: a picture on the red carpet at the Grammys, and that's,
Speaker 4: as you know, is worth more than maybe just go
Speaker 4: to the red carpet then leave.
Speaker 3: I don't even think I can get on the red
Speaker 3: carpet the Grammys. I feel like they won't let me on.
Speaker 3: You have to have like a publicist get you on.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, And I feel at a
Speaker 3: place with the Grammys because I'm not as like I
Speaker 3: just people be like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4: So Trevor was hosting the Grammys this year, Like, don't
Speaker 4: you feel like you're on the same level as Trevor. No,
Speaker 4: he's the host.
Speaker 3: No, No, someday, but no, Someday I'll be able to
Speaker 3: host these shows. Someday I'll be as big as Joe Koy.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much for listening. We'll see
Speaker 3: you next week. Andy.
Speaker 5: How about Joe Kerr? What no oh?
Speaker 3: Still now