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Speaker 2: We'll kick it off with a voicemail. This is from
Speaker 2: one of our listeners. You sent this in after hearing
Speaker 2: Ben and our legal expert having a chat this week.
Speaker 3: So Heather, why don't you hit it?
Speaker 4: I've been a fan from the beginning, and I just
Speaker 4: want to say that there's a reason Taylor Frankie Ball
Speaker 4: has six points something million followers on TikTok. We want
Speaker 4: to see her stuff. She still has that many followers
Speaker 4: because we don't care about everything that's going.
Speaker 1: On in her life.
Speaker 4: But I need to air her season. Love you guys.
Speaker 2: That is an interesting take. I feel like most people
Speaker 2: who follow Taylor, I mean, right now, she's not really
Speaker 2: posting stuff besides her own drama, right Yeah. All of
Speaker 2: her Instagram content and TikTok content have been related to
Speaker 2: what she's going through in her life right now, so.
Speaker 3: It's hard to separate the two.
Speaker 5: I think I'd like to hear more from listeners that
Speaker 5: have been longtime followers of her, like what what do
Speaker 5: you resonate with her?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 5: I I think like a lot of people was not
Speaker 5: aware of her until the soft Swinging scandal and then
Speaker 5: the show coming out you know, not too long after that,
Speaker 5: you know, got me intrigued. But I was not a
Speaker 5: long time follower. She was not on my radar prior
Speaker 5: to that. So I'd like to hear, you know, from people,
Speaker 5: whether you like her, whether you don't like her, Like,
Speaker 5: what is it about her that is so, you know,
Speaker 5: either aspirational to you or polarizing to you? What My
Speaker 5: big takeaway from that that voicemail, though, was that she
Speaker 5: wants to see the season, so, you know, we keep
Speaker 5: talking about it.
Speaker 3: It's never gonna happen. It's never gonna happen.
Speaker 6: That's what I think. I think it's never gonna happen.
Speaker 5: Our legal expert Alison Triesel, said that she thinks.
Speaker 6: That it will happen.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, and she said it's gonna be you know,
Speaker 5: in her legal experience, that it would create so much
Speaker 5: buzz and so much you know, possible revenue for the
Speaker 5: show that she thinks that they will air it. I'm
Speaker 5: in your camp. I think that it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5: I think brands will not want to be aligned with
Speaker 5: it at this state right now, with what's going on
Speaker 5: and what we're also going to get into and talk
Speaker 5: about today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well let's get into that recent headline.
Speaker 2: So Taylor reportedly, I guess, how do we not have
Speaker 2: conclusive facts on this? Because this is a court thing,
Speaker 2: is it not?
Speaker 5: But again, we're dealing with minors, so maybe that is
Speaker 5: why there's not like actual legal documents out about this.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what's supposedly happening. Reportedly, she turned down a
Speaker 2: modified custody proposal from Tate, her ex husband, and Dakota.
Speaker 2: She rejected a temporary custody agreement from Tate. This came
Speaker 2: out yesterday where it was requesting that she have approximately
Speaker 2: thirty five percent of parenting time with their kids, the
Speaker 2: eight year old and the six year old. This is
Speaker 2: again TMZ, they are the leaders in this information. The
Speaker 2: outlet is claiming that Tate's petition accommodated the time that
Speaker 2: Taylor had custody of her two year old son. Ever,
Speaker 2: so basically they want to have all the kids together,
Speaker 2: so it's like a sibling relationship. Page six is also
Speaker 2: reporting that Dakota had offered Taylor a revised custodial arrangement,
Speaker 2: which would give her visitation Withever forty percent of the time.
Speaker 2: This all sounds to me like pretty good chunks of time,
Speaker 2: like forty percent. We're working up almost you know, we're
Speaker 2: almost at fifty.
Speaker 6: But remember we went We're going from one hundred percent, like.
Speaker 2: Ye know we're going.
Speaker 3: Is it not fifty to fifty?
Speaker 2: Was it not fifty to fifty before?
Speaker 5: I do not think that it was fifty to fifty
Speaker 5: with Tate before because the kids lived with her.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought it was the Tate then, but I
Speaker 2: guess not.
Speaker 6: But what.
Speaker 2: I don't know how it goes in divorce court.
Speaker 6: I don't know what's happening with that.
Speaker 5: But these are definitely steps up from what she currently
Speaker 5: has with her kids.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: She also just posted a TikTok instagram which is supposedly
Speaker 2: a response to this. It's her sitting in the car
Speaker 2: looking to the camera with a text overlay saying, I
Speaker 2: might have to keep quiet, but time doesn't. She captioned
Speaker 2: this video with an offer. What an offer over my
Speaker 2: dead body? So it sounds as if tell me if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong in analyzing this, that she does not like
Speaker 2: this offer and time.
Speaker 3: I might have to keep quiet, but time doesn't.
Speaker 2: Does that mean time with the kids time as it
Speaker 2: ticks on.
Speaker 5: I took it as time that ticks on, but I
Speaker 5: also took it as a riddle. Sometimes, you know, Taylor's
Speaker 5: captions and things aren't always so straightforward, which I think
Speaker 5: she does that on purpose.
Speaker 2: Does she want to write lyrics with Taylor Swift?
Speaker 6: Maybe with Doug? You know he dabbles in that song.
Speaker 5: Stuff, but also so did the guy that she was
Speaker 5: seeing kind of before Doug. Remember I did that whole
Speaker 5: deep dive on the song and all that.
Speaker 2: She posted this to her social media two days ago,
Speaker 2: but it was yesterday, Thursday the thirtieth, in which it
Speaker 2: was reported by TMZ that something happened with.
Speaker 5: Cork, But that doesn't mean she wasn't aware of what
Speaker 5: was being back post exactly.
Speaker 2: You know, beforehand, that's what it sounds like. I'm going
Speaker 2: into and I know what you're going to propose to
Speaker 2: me and absolutely not Yeah, but how do you?
Speaker 3: But now I guess it does.
Speaker 2: Does it look great to say like I'm rejecting that
Speaker 2: proposal and then therefore like stuck with the amount that
Speaker 2: I have with my kids? Like what does that even mean?
Speaker 5: I think I think it just still means like that
Speaker 5: they're in a negotiation period.
Speaker 6: You did see though that you know.
Speaker 5: A source then went to page six and said, Taylor
Speaker 5: Frankie Paul will continue fighting for her children as long
Speaker 5: as it takes now. I don't know who this source is,
Speaker 5: but I will say that her mom, Leanne, posted quite
Speaker 5: a few screenshots I think, and links to this article
Speaker 5: yesterday when it came out.
Speaker 2: The source says that Taylor's response is so now I'm
Speaker 2: suddenly capable of parenting forty percent of the time. Couldn't
Speaker 2: be more obvious what this is really about. It isn't
Speaker 2: about safety or the well being of our children. This
Speaker 2: is what the source is saying. Taylor's response was so
Speaker 2: it's not like a direct quote from Taylor. The source
Speaker 2: added that she's prepared to fight for us on the
Speaker 2: tags and that they claim that she is witnessing the
Speaker 2: fathers coordinating their legal efforts against her, and that she
Speaker 2: looks forward to addressing those claims through the core and
Speaker 2: can't wait to witness them lose.
Speaker 6: They're interesting things to say to the press, is it not.
Speaker 5: These are like kind of very choice words to use.
Speaker 5: Yes to a tabloid.
Speaker 2: What has made these two men bond is what I
Speaker 2: want to know.
Speaker 5: I truly don't know, because Tate's never been involved in
Speaker 5: the show. We've never seen any sort of dynamics play
Speaker 5: out on camera. Like I can't even speak to his
Speaker 5: personality or the kind of you know, person he presents
Speaker 5: as you know, forward facing, because I've never gotten to
Speaker 5: know him through a TV.
Speaker 3: But call me naive.
Speaker 2: Part of that makes me trust him and only I
Speaker 2: say this, and it's just it's like it's an implicit
Speaker 2: by it, Like what is that called? Like I just
Speaker 2: I have no reason to trust him, but for some reason,
Speaker 2: because he hasn't it just desire to get his face
Speaker 2: out there in the midst of this drama when it could.
Speaker 3: Be so easy. He seems like a respectable source. I
Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe I'm totally wrong. Again only theories here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: And I know we've gotten feedback on this because obviously
Speaker 5: we do, you know, cover a lot of what's going
Speaker 5: on in Taylor's life.
Speaker 6: I know for me that.
Speaker 5: I am fairly neutral in a lot of this because
Speaker 5: I've not been witnessed, you know, to any of this.
Speaker 5: So I'm not like a Taylor Frankie Paul fan, and
Speaker 5: I'm not like a Dakota fan, you know, kind of
Speaker 5: a fan of the TV show and watching it as
Speaker 5: a whole. And was I excited to see her become
Speaker 5: the Bachelorette, Yes, of course I was. I felt like
Speaker 5: I knew her to a certain extent watching her on TV.
Speaker 5: But I'm not over here picking sides like we are
Speaker 5: reporting if anybody side. We just want these kids to
Speaker 5: be okay, you know, and not be so caught in
Speaker 5: the middle. I just think it's interesting that this page
Speaker 5: six source also says it's unclear what's going to happen
Speaker 5: yet with her season of the Bachelorette. She's been receiving
Speaker 5: a lot of support online from other women, and it
Speaker 5: says according to our source, Taylor will also be on
Speaker 5: the forthcoming season of The Secret Lives and Mormonwives, which
Speaker 5: we are I already knew because it was She's going
Speaker 5: to be in stuff that was taped prior to the
Speaker 5: Bachelorette scandal happening. I need that season to freaking drop already.
Speaker 5: That one has been taking too long too to come
Speaker 5: out with all.
Speaker 2: This still one that happened when they pause it, yees March.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it would be getting to the time that
Speaker 2: it would start to air.
Speaker 6: They've said, I believe that this season is going to
Speaker 6: be shorter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they had to stop filming for a month.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think they also just wanted to like
Speaker 5: start a new season, get going with, you know whatever,
Speaker 5: new cast members. I'm also unclear of who's coming back
Speaker 5: who's not coming back to that show with people moving
Speaker 5: to different states and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Well, anyway to reiterate what Heather just said, I feel
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: I don't have any skin in this fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and I was excited for her season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're here reporting on what's happening, but it doesn't
Speaker 5: mean that we're just Taylor's support or we're just Dakota
Speaker 5: supporters or haters. It's like, it's not like that we
Speaker 5: are just reporting on what is coming out and you know,
Speaker 5: following because she was going to be a part of
Speaker 5: the show. But we do want to hear from you guys.
Speaker 5: Like I sometimes, if I'm being totally honest, I do
Speaker 5: have a little bit of Taylor Frankie Paul Fatigue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same, I'm like, what is she doing again?
Speaker 2: Like so in our group message, we'll send her tiktoks,
Speaker 2: we'll send articles and I'm just like, is this just
Speaker 2: this just a merry go round? Like it just feels
Speaker 2: like such similar things come out about her every every week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she fans the flames by doing the tiktoks
Speaker 5: and by you know, putting stuff out there. A lot
Speaker 5: of these things I think could be handled privately without
Speaker 5: social media. But she continues there's other drama going on
Speaker 5: in her life about.
Speaker 6: Golf cart and stuff like that. But weah, we'll get
Speaker 6: into it.
Speaker 2: Car, Like, what was that a joke that she was
Speaker 2: getting pulled over because of a golf car.
Speaker 5: I can't speak to this because I haven't researched it enough,
Speaker 5: but it's something along the lines of a woman claiming
Speaker 5: that there's issues in Taylor's neighborhood with the golf car.
Speaker 5: She's got the cops involved, Taylor being like, there is
Speaker 5: no issue, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 6: Something along those lines.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's not important at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: but we will continue to follow this story because we're invested.
Speaker 5: We think that you guys, the listeners are invested as well.
Speaker 5: But call us tell us eight four four or five almost,
Speaker 5: what are your feelings on Taylor?
Speaker 6: Frankie Paul are you a fan? Why have you been
Speaker 6: a fan?
Speaker 3: Do you want us to stop?
Speaker 2: I'll tell us because, like you know, we are almost
Speaker 2: a year from the filming of her season and she
Speaker 2: never aired, but we're still talking about her as if
Speaker 2: she's a Bachelor Nation member.
Speaker 5: So wait, let me let me check her Instagram again.
Speaker 5: Hold on, I want to keep I want to know
Speaker 5: when if she ever changes her bio, still, says creator
Speaker 5: of Mom Talk, Secret Lives and Mormon Wives. The Bachelorette
Speaker 5: Jesus is king as of right now when we're recording this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she was the Bachelorette.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 5: I mean, we know that she got paid for services rendered,
Speaker 5: but you know she did that job.
Speaker 2: Well, guys, sometimes I just listen to Heather on these
Speaker 2: because I'm just like, you know what, I think she
Speaker 2: gets her more. I think you just get it more.
Speaker 5: I'm just online too much more. Ashley, Well, you followed
Speaker 5: her long before me. Yeah, so well, thank you guys
Speaker 5: for listening. As always, I've been Ashley, I've been Heather
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