WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Most Critical Matchup vs. Saints? 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:06.640 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:18.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.880 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:32.519 Star in Frisco. Et stay here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:37.239 brought us, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. And it is 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.600 a Tuesday here at the Star in Frisco. It's the 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.760 Cowboys and the New Orleans Saints on Sunday night. We 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.839 get you set for that as we go forward our 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:54.520 first tacoless Tuesday of the year. And uh, I am 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.720 Bill Jones alone with Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips and Brian 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.840 brought us. What's on your mind on a Tuesday morning? 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:06.200 Trying to figure out how this Saint team is going 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:11.640 to attack this Dallas defense with Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.600 That's what I'm trying to figure out because I you know, 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.440 I mean, I'm jumping right into this thing. Let's do it. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.720 I'm jumping right in because to me, man, this I 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.479 think always catch a huge break. I'm not captain obvious here, 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.520 I know, but without Drew Brees, but they're they're gonna 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.560 play differently offensively I think I think they're going to 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.080 really lean on the salmon Kamara, and they're going to 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.280 really lean on Michael Thompson to see if Dallas is 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.560 good enough to stop them. Well, that's what they did 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.520 against Seattle, and they total to hole two hundred and 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.920 sixty five yards of offense. Mickey's been done some research 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.480 already this week if you want, But are they good enough? 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.880 But there's Dallas good enough to stop both of those 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.040 guys though, Mickey, if it does, if it does come 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.600 down to that, well, Seattle, I know they were playing 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.960 at home. Sure, they stopped them with nineteen points, right, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.000 fourteen of them were on or thirteen because they missed 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.680 the extra point. So you have to feel good. We're 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.120 on returns, right, Yeah, So you feel good about this 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.240 defensive touchdown return in a punt return touchdown to start 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.320 the game off. Yeah. Yeah. So from an offensive standpoint, yeah, 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.560 Kamara is a load. Yeah. I mean he touched the bald. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.440 I think I added up twenty five times for one 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.040 hundred and sixty one yards. That was more than half 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:25.600 their offense from a yardage standpoint. Teddy Bridgewater didn't beat Seattle. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.320 He was he didn't he didn't make any mistake. That 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.800 did his job. Yeah, that touchdowns, no interception, one yard 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:36.720 touchdown throw okay, and I've screen passed it was all Kamara, 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.040 so it wasn't like he lit him up. It definitely 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.320 starts with Alvin Kamara as we saw last year, and 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.440 Jordan Lewis did a great job with like eight snaps 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.639 against him. But Brian and I are talking to this 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.919 before the show started. Starter. Now, right, he's getting a lot. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.640 He had twenty five touches in this game. Yeah, and 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.440 they still line him up everywhere. I mean, he's they're 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.000 featured back now, but I've I've gotten through the first 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.679 half of the seat game. You line them up in 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.320 a bunch formation, line him up out wid yeah, screen 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.320 with Blockerman front Roma screen, he's in the eye formation. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.400 I mean, he's the guy. He's the guy. Once again 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:12.640 that you got to be able to say, would you 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.280 would you take it right now? If you gave up 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:18.120 nineteen points to the Saints? Could I score more than nineteen? Yeah? 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.519 And I'm asking you is nineteen is that? Yeah? Absolutely 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.720 take that. I take nineteen if you if defensively We've 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.079 talked about that. Rod Marinelli in this bunch. They would rather, 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:33.239 they would rather give up limited points. And I don't 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.400 care about the yards. You think you can guarantee that 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.440 the Saints that usually play a lot better at home, 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.119 we're only going to get nineteen points on offense. Teddy Bridgewater, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.600 they it's Teddy Bridgewater. Well, I started games in the league. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.000 I'm not sure I wouldn't act like he's, you know, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.400 an undrafted rookie coming in here playing. I'm just saying, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.920 no different, It's offense different with them, That's what I'm 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.640 asking It is different. Yeah, ball didn't go down the field. Yeah, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.680 see that's what That's what I'm saying. Rob. I'm not 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.000 trying to attack you on this point. I just feel 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.240 like that this team, what how if you're the Cowboys, 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.720 how do you prepare? Is it is? It? Is it? Okay, 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:11.400 We're gonna focus on Alvin Kamara and say, okay, we'll 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.360 take our chances that are recorded. Do you have enough 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.880 faith in your cornerbacks to line up and take Thomas 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.120 and again potentially out of this game, or do you 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.600 focus completely on taking Kamara out of this game? You 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.800 got to focus on him for sure, because if it breeze, 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.240 it Breeze is playing and now we're gonna need to 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.719 score thirty one points. In my mind, yeah, I think 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.279 you're going to need I mean yeah, but the fact 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.160 that they had a punt return, had a fumble return, 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.480 that's those are camping seen that from the Cowboys have 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.640 we and their special teams are excellent too. I mean 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.440 the stal position was flipped entirely. I got a field 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.719 goal kicker. Make him from that middle that Saints logo. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.520 He can make field goals from there. So if they 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.760 cross into midfield, get ready for that and they're putter 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:57.320 two can pinions. Yeah, Mart, that's right. Yeah, he was 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.520 pretty good in the game. See that's I think this 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.680 is where this is. If you're the Cowboys, you know 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.680 you can say, okay, you got to stop one. But 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.839 they did a great job last year playing this game 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.240 and stopping a bunch a bunch of guys. I mean, 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.040 they go, they harassed, they harassed. Is that the best 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.160 this defense has played since? I mean, is this call 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.520 the last time the defense this team played better than that? 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.720 Is there a game in the opposition? Yeah? Is there 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.400 a game that they've played better? And even last year 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.200 this year, is there a game they played better than 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.200 defensively than that game. Is that the best that we've 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:33.880 seen him play considering who the quarterback was? Absolutely hate 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.839 I hate playing that. I'm so this quarterback and the 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.000 guy next week, you know, the two guys back to back, 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.520 just like you wake up, You're like, oh God, not 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.440 these guys and the Rams not too far down. Yeah 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.920 with the rams Cat. I can deal with that Rams Cat. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.160 I'm just saying, though, I'm just saying, no, bless you, Mickey, 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:56.240 I need mic not really. You just turned your head 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.880 like you're the doctor. Yeah yeah, doctor office or something 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.000 like that, you know. I feel, yeah, I feel like 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:08.279 though that that this game will hinge on the offense, 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.159 the Dallas's offense with the Cowboys defense in this game, 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.240 who will it hinge on? Who will the Who will 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.640 the game hinge on? Because the last time they played 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:21.320 last year, it hinged on the Dallas defense being able 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:26.200 to play absolutely now without Drew Brees on the field. Yeah, um, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:28.640 because if you if you scored thirty one points, you're 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.039 gonna win this football game. And I think it probably 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:35.400 hinges more on the Dallas defense. But I just I'm 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.560 just saying, you go into the Superdome it's a different 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.080 it's a different question story I question. I just expect 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.120 their whole team to play better than they did, especially 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.080 two weeks ago and even last week in Seattle. That's 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.280 impressive win no matter how you do it. I mean, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.159 I don't I don't know though, that the home field 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.480 advantage makes your cornerbacks play better or your linebackers play better. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:02.560 They couldn't cover more, was getting toasted. Yeah, you realize 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.680 Lockett had eleven catches for one hundred and fifty four yards. Yeah, 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.120 that's the big difference Seattle. He's still their best player. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.160 I would attack me personally, I'd attack the other guy. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.360 But Mickey brings up a point. He brings up a 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.520 point about Lattimore playing that off coverage. Though that's kind 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.320 of not their tea. They had a lot of they had. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.000 I mean, they need to get up tight and play 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.720 on you. But Mickey makes a point, Martial, I mean, 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.720 Saddle's offense wasn't that good. Wilson was running for his 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.240 life half the game. I thought, Yeah, how much of 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.880 that late was though? Late? They were they were behind 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.240 in the game, last touchdown, mean they had, they were down, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.240 they were scrambling. I think at one point. It was 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.800 twenty seven to seven. Yeah, they were still playing on 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.120 that last drive when they scored the untimed touchdown. Yeah, 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.000 they were still they were still grinding. Yeah, I understand 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.720 what you're saying about Lattimore. I don't take my chances 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.200 with him. I think Apple's the guy you attack in 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.360 this one. I think, I guess said I think Von 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.880 von Bell and PJ. Woods. I mean, if the Cowboys, 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.080 if anything we've seen with this Cowboys offenses, they like 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.840 to work the middle of that field, and if those 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.240 two safeties aren't going to cover, playing coverage or helping 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.400 coverage by all means to continue to attack, or if 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.640 they're going to back off the way Miami did, then 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.520 he leave the middle of the field open. Yeah. I 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.040 think that. I think this offense has got to be 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.160 the key, the key. The key, the key will be 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.080 the offense scoring and be able to block their front, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.880 because I think their front's pretty good. That's that's good, 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.520 good analogy, right, if you can block them and give 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:36.480 your quarterback time because uh, Wilson had no time whatsoever. Yeah, 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.560 I don't know how I didn't count how many times 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.560 he ran the ball, right he was running for his 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.920 life mostly that's kind of the way he plays. And 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.319 they called a bunch of run plays for him too. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.079 Had seven carries for fifty one yards and two touchdown 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.000 and I'll guarantee you five of them where he's just 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:57.200 trying nothing in the pocket through fifty passes through for 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.319 four hundred yards. You run the ball this game, you 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.480 try and you try and attack it that way, or 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.080 do you need to stay aggressive and and and continue 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:06.400 to do what you're doing. I think you just try 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.040 to do both. I mean, I mean, I think that 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.280 the best thing they do is build off of their 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.679 running game first, their play action cooking, get the RPOs going, 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.040 all that stuff. Um help you with the crowd noise 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.000 a little bit. Running the ball, absolutely, that's going to 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.120 play it. But but the the opponent already knows the 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.959 Cowboys can run the ball, and so you don't have 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.080 to run the ball first. You can throw the ball 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.480 first because they're they're defending the run to start the 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.280 game too. You don't have to establish the run yet. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.920 Got a veteran quarterback, veteran offensive line express crowd boys 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:41.719 shouldn't be a problem, shouldn't There's there's gonna be rhetorical. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.400 There's there's gonna be Cowboy fans as it's gonna be 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:51.000 it's a Sunday night. Probably. I leaned towards the Dallas 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.240 defense as the biggest key here and and getting a 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.120 couple stops early and trying to take the crowd out 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:58.439 of it. Can they play the way they have the 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.880 last three weeks and win this game? The defense? The defense? 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:06.040 Mickey say that again? Can they play? Thank you for listening. 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.640 I thought I was getting something on Paris. Yeah, good 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.120 Jack Black question to you there? Yeah, well you could 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:17.199 talk to Mickey. I always talked to Mickey Cowboys. Cowboys 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.560 can play on defense the way they last three weeks 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:28.040 and win this football game. Can they play? Yes? Yes, 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.680 sorry I was They can't as they eliminate the last 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.360 drives in those first two games score defense. So if 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.520 they play the way they did in the second half 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.160 last week, they will win this game. Yeah. Yeah. They 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:48.400 gave up sixty five yards absolutely no points. I'll tell 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.600 you what though, man, and the pressure was better. You're 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.840 gonna have to get after Teddy Bridge. That's what I'm saying. 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.120 You are going to the Rams got after him when 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.040 he came into the game. And I know we didn't 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.440 have any time to prepare pair. Yeah, but when he 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.320 went in that game, it was about Clay Matthews. It 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.719 was about Donald, it was about it was it's just rush, rush, rush, Yes, 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.199 it's about hit him, knock him around, effect passes. May 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.120 I'll tell you that the Rams played well in the 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.520 second ary in that game. Let's see what what what 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.960 Seattle's Seattle thought the same thing. And then they countered 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.440 it with all those little dump off passes and screen 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.880 passes and dumps over the middle and lots of Camara, Yeah, 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.920 and all to Kimara. Yeah. Seattle linebackers supposed to be 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.839 pretty good, aren't they, And that's supposed to be a 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.360 pretty good linebacker. They weren't fast enough. Not Yeah, not 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.560 for it. He just runs through tackle trying to think 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.320 which which guy said it? Uh, I can't remember who 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.280 said it, but it was maybe it was Bridge Rotter. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.600 About Camara, he said it was like playing with a joystick. Yeah, 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.000 watching him bounce. He know many catches he had like 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:56.920 the week before against the Rams, M one. Yeah, they 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.840 did a great job that Rams. The Rams have got 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.080 a lot of speed on defense, and they've got big rushers. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:07.360 Up front and they tackle well the tact right, So 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.800 go study what Wade did. Wait, wait, it's pretty good 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.720 DC by the one. If we haven't guessed the other day, 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.200 it might not be a very good head coach, but 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:21.600 he's a really good DC. Ye haven't tried, Ye? So big? 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:27.280 How big is the difference between Breeze and Bridgewater. It's 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.959 a big difference. Okay. I can't I understand the Hall 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.320 of Fame quarterback is not in the game this Sunday 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.160 for for the Saints, But I do trust Sean Payton 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.760 to put his quarterback in the right spots. And I 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.560 think having a couple of games now, one full game 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.280 is going to help him. He's gotting worried. Played together, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.920 he's got to be worried though. Can he score enough point? 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.880 I absolutely, that's a that's a valid point. It's it's 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.640 not trying to frustrate you here, Rob, No, I'm just 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.320 saying I think it is going to be on this 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.040 Dallas defense to pick up where they left off it 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.280 basically like Bill said it half and I think some 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.120 of the talk about they didn't get any pressure on 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:03.880 Roads and they were around him in the first half 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.439 two but they really cranked it up. Robert Quinn getting 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.120 back is such a huge factor for this defense, and 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.840 we'll see what they can do with their other linemen. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.440 I don't know how good it's looking for Woods. Yeah, 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:18.080 so who's getting back this week? To answer your question? Oh, okay, Bridgewater? 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:22.200 How wide's the Mississippi River. I've crossed it a few times. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.760 I've crossed it. You know that to me? I yeah, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.720 you want to? You want to again? I'm not cheering 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.280 for injury, I'm but trust me. I. Hey, if guys 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.160 don't play it, as long as it's not career ending, 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.120 I'm okay. No, Drew. Hey, if Aaron Rodgers wants to 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.600 sit out next week, I'm okay with that too. You know, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.160 I have no it's a fan you ought to, you 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.079 know you you don't want them to, don't want to 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.240 be you know, career ending. But if they don't play 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.360 your a week, they don't play your week. I'll tell 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:49.800 you what though. Hey, the cowboy is not going to 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.679 play with the Michael Gallup. That's a Michael Gallup did 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.000 a nice job against these guys last year. Yeah, I mean, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.080 and that's a huge thing to me because Mickey was 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.800 talking about Lattimore. If Lattimore goes out there in stinks 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.800 against Cooper, they're likely to lose this game. You know 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.840 what I'm saying. I mean, Cooper got there and make plays. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.360 But if Lattimore all of a sudden is able to cover, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.160 and now you get you get Cob and Smith not 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:15.319 winning their one on one battles, all things could be 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.880 pretty equal here, you know. So you know, keeping Gallop 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.000 out of this game is a big loss with the 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.040 Cowboy I thought I thought Miami did a pretty good 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.240 job against the Cowboys receivers in the first half, um 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.640 limiting them, limiting them. I mean, Cooper had his chances. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.520 He was just outstanding overall on the game. But you 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:36.680 know they're best players that we forget. The Cooper drop. Yeah, 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:38.320 that was the thing. I mean, we talked about how 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.720 Miami missed some chances in the first half. That was 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.320 another miss one for the cow You know why he 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.520 dropped it though, right the safety was approaching quickly. Yeah, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.480 he looked up in the middle of the field real quick. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.440 But it's interesting now when things click and you're converting 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.400 third downs and stuff, the drops don't matter now. Or 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.040 the seventy four yard touchdown pass. Yeah, I mean in 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.640 the seventy four yarder gets called back, and you overcome that. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.960 When the offense is clicking like this offense is right now, 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:12.960 you can overcome penalties or drops or whatever. And that 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.320 I think is the biggest difference between what the Saints 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.280 have faced last week and even the Rams the week before. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.320 Is the way this Cowboy's offense is playing right now. 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.640 Now can they continue it? Dennis Allen has to be 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.960 worried about Dallas running the football he does, He does 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.280 have to be worried about. Okay, I'm gonna take the 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.360 crowd noise out of this. I'm gonna put that prescotted situation. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.080 I'm not going to expose even though the line has 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:38.080 done a great job with pass protection. Mickey's right about 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.000 this defense. I think the strength of it is as 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.320 a guy's like the Cameron Jordan's and guys like that 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.680 that are able to rush up the field and cause problems. 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.280 But yeah, if Dallas can run the football with Elliott 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.840 and Pollard in this game and kind of just grind 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.120 it out, grind it out, and I know fans out 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.160 there will probably go, how cheez, it's not pretty, it's 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.600 not whatever, You're just trying to get a win against 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.480 these guys. Sure that then would be just yeah, we're 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.040 not We're not playing you know, we're not playing Alabama 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.840 this week for style points or whatever. I'm just saying, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.320 we're trying. You're trying to go out there and fight 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.480 for inches in a hostile environment. You know. I agree. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.160 They asked Jerry this morning, would you rather have Drew 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.240 Brees play so you can get a better Gaye test 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.080 for your team? How good it is? Shut up? And 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.440 it was like, seriously, I'm so glad he and again, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.760 I hope they affect teddy Bridge was just wait a 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.840 week because Jerry and then Jerry and then Jerry said, well, 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.320 you know everybody's got injuries, and you know we got 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.960 injuries too, So yeah, can't you feeling sorry for anybody? Okay, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.000 hound the ball as much as I say, though, this 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.280 Cowboys offense is playing so well, Yeah, who have the 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.680 Cowboys played? It doesn't matter to me, that doesn't matter. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.920 You only play your schedule, but they didn You can 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.160 only play your skis. But they did what they should 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:53.400 have done against those teams. Yeah, I mean that's the 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.920 Redskins have given up now after losing last night, they 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.280 lost thirty one to fifteen. Last night they get up 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.200 thirty one to the Cowboys and they lost to the 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:06.200 Eagles thirty two to twenty seven. The Giants gave up 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:10.120 thirty one to Tampa and Sunday they gotta win, they 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.320 gotta win. And who else did they play? I can't remember, 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:20.600 but anyway, yeah, Buffalo is undefeated. And then Miami gave 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.560 up fifty nine, forty three and thirty one. So you 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.840 can only play your schedule. Take that away from it. 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:32.560 But now, like I said yesterday, the preseason's over and 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:36.120 now we see what they've really got. I'm just happy 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.680 to see him scoring points and moving the football. I'm 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.560 happy that, you know, defensively with Quinn, Rob said it. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.399 With Quinn, it gives them a different element as the 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.479 pass rush. I think we'd think differently about this defense 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.640 if Jeff Heath had made a couple of interceptions, if 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.760 Xavier Woods had to drop the ball, I think we'd 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.920 feel differently about this defense with some of the things. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.600 I'm not gonna here and blow smoke everybody and say 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.200 it's perfect by any means, because it's not. We'll see 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.480 how if Tenny Bridgewater goes out there and lights the 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.840 Cowboys up and they lose because of that. Then you 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.960 come back and say, okay, well, Aaron Rodgers next week, 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.840 this could be a real problem for the team. And 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.040 that's the other thing as far as the offense goes. 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.920 When you're playing against a Giants team and a Redskins 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.520 team and a Saints team that are our Dolphins team 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:25.760 that aren't a threat offensively, it's a different ball game 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.240 than when you're playing again, even against the Saints team 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.440 without Breeze, okay, because we've already seen what they can 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.920 do without breeze, right, and then the Packers the following week. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.920 There's just a pressure that builds that, Okay, we got 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.159 to score points this week. You got to score points. 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:42.840 But you also you have to find a way to 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.119 get those turnovers. If you have opportunities and you can't 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.000 get holding penalties on seventy two yard touchdown place you 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:51.680 can't have it, or you can't get a holding penlly 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.280 on an eighteen yard run. Right, You can make up 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.800 for that when you're playing the Giants Redskins. You can't 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.560 make it up when you're playing the Saints. Especially, possessions 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.239 are so vital in these games. That's just that's just 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.560 the bottom line. Collins held that guy. I thought it 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.200 was the guy was in such bad body position the 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.040 defender that he had no choice. He just he just 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.720 steamrolled them. Well, he had his hands inside that the 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.040 close up shot showed he had his hands inside. But again, 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.200 the Dolphin defender was in was in such bad position 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.800 that you know, sometimes you get caught yourself in bad 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:29.000 position because they're in such bad position. That makes sense. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.639 Body position was bad. Holding calls down across the league. 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.440 After a conference call apparently from Al river on to 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:40.600 the officials saying that after Tom Brady said that there's 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.000 to be holding calls, Coos Cowboys still had three of them, 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.400 right right, Apparently this crew wasn't on the conference call. 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.800 I guess, yeah, there were a million of them. He 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.040 just needed to play the opener against the Texans and 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:56.639 it was a war. And yeah, okay, I mean, I 0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:02.480 don't mean more came back in Houston, the Rams and Seahawks. Seahawks, Yeah, 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:06.679 and they got the twenty eighth ranked defense. Yeah, Houston 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.359 went after him. Houston made some Houston made some great 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.920 plays down the field. I mean picked the game, go 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:15.440 ahead pick the game. What's that? I mean, what do 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:20.440 you think it's gonna be? Mickey's calling for a big route. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.080 I warned you last week it wasn't gonna be hard, 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.200 didn't I. It's just it's just funny for my position 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:30.080 when Mickey says something this smile though on Rob's face. 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.840 We need to have h dual cameras here like that 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:40.840 split screen. Everybody gets job. 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Well, ask you this though off the periscope, 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:38.680 you know, and they're asking about is something wrong with 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.640 Jalen Smith? Can I get your opinions on what you 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.840 guys have seen from Jalen Smith as a player so far? 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:49.679 And I and I've got I know, I've got my 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:53.560 answer for that. That sarreo. But I'll let you guys start. 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:55.679 But they wanted to know, is something wrong with you? 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.880 And I know something physically is not wrong with him 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.520 because I asked, But I just wondered if you guys 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.760 saw something differently. No, I mean I said it on 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.920 the show yesterday. They have a good linebacker in their 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.080 reserves with Joe Thomas, and maybe they saw something in 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.080 the matchup where hey, we can give him a series 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:18.840 and he can help. But no, I don't see him limited. 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.760 I really don't physically in the game, and I know 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:23.719 he had to come off the field the first two games. 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:26.800 Jason Garrett spoke to it yesterday. We just wanted to 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:30.080 create a rotation and they they did do that last 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.120 year at the beginning of the year before Sean Lee 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.840 got hurt. They gave and I know, Vanderesh's first round pick, 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.879 but they gave him a series here and there. And 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.760 they not only spelled Jalen, they spelled Sean Lee with 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.040 with Joe Thomas, if I'm not mistaken. So I don't 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:46.880 know if there's you should read too much into that. 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:52.240 Sean Lee played fourteen plays, so that tells you basically 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:57.560 fourteen times they were in three linebackers. Yeah, base, So 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.480 I don't know that at nickel is Jalen Smith's forte 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.879 unless you're blitzing him. And if you notice that towards 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.359 the end of the game, when Miami was in ketchup mode, 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.960 they were going three down and Jalen was standing up 0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:19.000 as the fourth down line well rush rusher, Yeah, and 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.760 he blitzing. He's much better going I think we've always 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.440 said that, right, he's better going forward and going backwards, 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.120 especially especially he was coming right off of that injury. 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.840 But still, and I think maybe what they noticed is like, Okay, 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:34.560 Joe Thomas is a little a little better at that, 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:38.560 Let's get him in there, because they're not. They're they're 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:43.919 going nickel every play, every play, almost sou and a 0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:45.280 lot of that has to do with the fact that 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:49.280 Cowboys are way ahead in these games. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.320 So I didn't see anything wrong with it. So where 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.119 this is all coming from because they asked me the 0:25:55.200 --> 0:26:00.159 question this morning. Yeah, are my favorite site, p p 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:05.320 F had him ranked the fifty eighth best linebacker in 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.080 the league. Sure after three games. Sure, So that's where 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.160 it's coming from. Yeah, So it's because they're always right. Yeah, 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.080 is in the mail for you? Bill? What about you? 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:19.600 And I I haven't noticed anything that out of the 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.679 ordinary from what I've seen before from him. And I 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.600 agree with Mickey. I've always thought that he's a better 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.600 going forward than going back. I like, I would like 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.800 to see him use him more in rush type situations. 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:36.520 You know. I've always even in like what Rob said, 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:38.879 coming off the injury, it was a way to it 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.280 was a way to use him when they had Hitchens 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.560 and Lee. It was a way to use him coming 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:48.639 off the edge, you know, and have a package for him. Uh. 0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:50.399 And I like to see it now to get him 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.840 on the field, maybe even in nickel situations, you know, 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.120 you know the interesting thing And I'll let you say 0:26:56.160 --> 0:27:00.000 what you're just chopping at the bit to say about. Yeah, 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.760 But the other thing that I would say is it 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.040 is interesting that he's got this big contract. And my 0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:10.680 question is is he in this defense with the Layton 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:15.160 vanderg is he a three down linebacker? See that's to me. 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.560 I think Mickey nailed this. I think you do not 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.760 want to play him in pass coverage. You want to 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.040 play him attacking when they got when they actually had 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:26.160 some sacks. When they had the sacks, he was involved 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.800 with the picks and stuff like that, him and Lawrence 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.320 and those guys. He can affect the pocket as a blitzer, 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.600 and so if you're going to use him as a 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.320 three down player but have him as the extra rusher, 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.400 it makes perfect sense. Yeah, I think that's the Yet 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.240 he can be a three down linebacker, but yetive have 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.800 to be creative of how to use him. And you 0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.080 know what the problem is I think right now is 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:54.399 as fans out there, we see them not making a 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.320 bunch of splash plays. We're not seeing the run to 0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.840 the sidelines and knock Deshaun Watson completely off the field. 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.959 You know, on fourth down, we're not seeing the tackle 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.840 behind the line of scrimmage. And you can include I 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.960 think the linebackers as a whole. That was one of 0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.800 the strengths that I felt like that they had going 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.280 into the season. We just haven't seen the linebackers as 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.639 a whole make those splash plays. So now he's getting 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.120 paid and now we don't see the splash plays. And 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:25.040 where's Vanderesh. Oh wait, they're playing Joe Thomas Sean Lee's 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.840 only playing fourteen plays. There's a lot of things going 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.920 on here where the fan is looking at the looking 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.280 at it just as you know, like with tunnel vision, 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:37.120 whereas the big picture. Yeah, they're not giving up points. Yeah, 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.240 they're you know, every week you look at him, it's 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.719 Vanders has ten tackles, Jalen Smith has ten tackles, Vanders 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.760 has nine times. You know, every week they have tackles. 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.800 But we're not seeing the splash plays. So when you 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.360 don't see the splash plays, you're not thinking, oh, well, 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.280 he's not playing. Well, I don't remember him doing anything. Yeah, 0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.800 that play he made it, They didn't show him doing anything. 0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:01.600 That play he made on the goal line to rip 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.080 the ball out of the out of the running backs 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.320 hands as he's going away from the play, and to 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.040 reach back instinctively, just reach back and just be strong 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.320 enough to pull the ball out of his hands. You know. 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:18.320 That's that's that's the that's your splash play. Yeah, but 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.560 the see but but but Joe flower Mound's going he's 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:25.000 not making enough of those. He's not making Yeah, he's 0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.840 not he's not having sacks, he's not tackling behind the line. 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:33.600 He's I mean, you know, these linebackers, you know, their 0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.600 bar is very very high, I mean very high with 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.680 the way that they're playing and I to me, you know, 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:43.000 that's where you know, give them an opportunity to kind 0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:44.760 of get things going, because I think you will see 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.080 some splash plays from these guys. But to to say that, 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.680 you know, Smith is not hurt, but everybody out there 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.880 is now taking this tunnel vision of him, like, oh, 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.560 he got paid and he's not making any plays. That 0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.400 play on the goal line was a huge play because 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.560 it kept it kept the Dolphins out of the end 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.040 zone and potentially taking the lead. And if he go 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.120 back and look at it, he's the one that messed 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.280 up to play. He didn't make the tackle right, but 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.280 he caused the running back to move to the side 0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.600 because he was coming through right that gap. They had 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.400 ten tackles in the game. Yeah. See, that's where I 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.760 think you get in trouble when we don't know what 0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.440 specifically for the scheme his plans are. We don't know. 0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.240 I mean that's again me personally. I mean I watched 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.240 the stuff every week and there's questions that I had, 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.520 like was he supposed to do this? Or was he 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.160 supposed to do you know? And I try and ask 0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:36.959 the coaches want to see him you know, well, no, 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.600 this is where and then I write about it that way. 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.360 But yeah, I think we have to be really careful 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:46.440 talking about these cowboy linebackers because there's going to be 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.480 a game, and it might be this week. You know, 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.400 they're gonna have to They're gonna have to be ready 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:54.280 for Alan Kamara running that football, downhill, toss sweeps, things 0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.719 like that, ball inside, fit, finish, all those things are 0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.720 gonna happen. And if they get blown up this week 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.760 and who's the game, it probably because they didn't tackle 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.240 well enough, they didn't fit, they didn't finish, and they 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.640 weren't happy with that in Week one and it wasn't 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.800 just the one Barkley run. The Giants ran it pretty well, 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.040 but these last couple of games, it's like two and 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.000 a half three yards of carry. Yeah, and I know 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.320 it's not you know, big time Peterson has been a 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.000 big time runner. That's linebackers having to do with some 0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.520 of their run defense that they fixed the last two weeks. 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.520 You're right about the splash plays, though, I think I 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.040 will raise my hand in blame. I'll raise my hand 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.880 in blame for being a guy that watched thirty practices 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.960 and when we were on in Oxnard and training camp 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.360 and all that stuff like that and saying, hey, the 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.320 strength of this team is this linebacker crew. I'll be 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.000 the first to admit that because I believed in my 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.120 heart and watching these guys play last year and saying, Okay, 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.760 what I saw in training camp, this is what you're 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.160 going to see again this year. I mean, if I'm 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.840 influencing people to say that, you know that these guys 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:59.560 the bar it was this high, I'll take I'll take 0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.080 the blame. That part of why you said that is 0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.640 because of their death and because Joe Thomas was a 0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.760 starting line Thomas was a most camp in preseason and 0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.560 the guy was a stud. Yeah, so that's it's not 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:12.680 surprising to see him come in the game and play 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.080 well because we've seen him do it when called upon. 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.920 Sure it was surprising though that Jalen really didn't come 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.040 off the field for two games and then here he 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:24.000 is giving a series here there to Joe, and like 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:27.320 Mickey said, maybe it turned into a passing game and 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:28.600 all of a sudden, they're like, we don't want to 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.440 just keep using him on the blitz. We want to 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.960 put Joe Thomas on the field. And but Joe Thomas 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.440 not only played for Smith. He played for Shawn Lee too, 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.479 so half of Shawn Lee's I mean you look at 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.840 Sean Lee eight r. Yeah, you look at Sean Lee 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.200 snaps right there fourteen. It wasn't just Jaalen, it wasn't 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.000 just Ja. They put Joe Thomas. It's like, yeah, it's 0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:47.920 like they put a gut It's like a gut feeling. 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.760 It's like a manager sending up a pinch hitter. You know, Hey, Bill, 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.080 get the back, go hit. You know, It's like, you know, 0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.200 sometimes you have to have a gut feeling that maybe 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.040 in this scheme or maybe against his team, that they 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.080 were going to have to do things a little bit differently. 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.960 And Joe Thomas got the opportunity because, like Rob said 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.480 all during training camp, we said, Joe Thomas is getting 0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.480 a lot of work and he's looking pretty damn good 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.720 doing the work. I mean, they gave they gave Tony 0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.120 Pollard a chance late in the game to salt this 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.160 thing away. What does that say about Zeke Nothing, Zeke 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:21.480 Elliot's great opportunity against Miami to give guys a look 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.920 and see what you got. Darren Thompson, I mean, here 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.360 was the other thing that came out also because Pollard 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.520 played that way, do you wish you didn't give Zeke 0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.480 all that money? Well, that's that's another question. See, that's 0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.120 that's gonna be the next you know, if we were 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.880 on the radio every day, and it might even be 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.880 a TV question, you know, it might be TV might 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.320 ask that question, do you do you have any remorse? Yeah, yesterday, 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.520 I'm listen, I'm driving home, and again I work with 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.520 those guys. Mickey works with those guys on one oh 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:55.160 five three. But they're you know, they're talking about do 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.960 you have any buyer's remorse on guys? Do you have 0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.440 buyer's remorse on paying players? You know? And this is 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.280 after a victory. And I'm not trying to say everything 0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.120 has to be rosy and sugarcoated and all that, but 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.439 it's a it's a it's an unusual path to take 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.560 to do a show. If you're just saying, do they 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.640 have buyer's remorse on on Lawrence? Do they have buyer's 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.160 remorse on you know, all these guys that they paid, 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.280 you know? And I thought that was an unusual angle 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.200 to an angle to take, but but it's, you know, 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.120 that's what they have. They have to do their show, 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.480 as we have to do our show as well. So 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.560 I'm I'm you know, if that's what they're If that's 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.399 what they're gonna do, fine, But I'm just saying though 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:40.560 to me listening, Yeah, give me, give me all the 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:45.040 best players I can have. Give me Ezekiel Elliott, give 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.240 me you know, MARII give me all the best players. 0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.200 That's why you're able to match up in these games 0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.320 and had potentially have some success. So let's go to 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.399 the phone line. We got Denny and ay here. Oh 0:34:55.440 --> 0:35:02.000 well we don't want anyway, right hello Ny? Yeah? Um, 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:07.759 I have two questions on like, um, how important will 0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.800 it be our tackling this game? You know, like because 0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.200 I saw a lot of screens and yeah, yeah, you know, 0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.520 a lot a lot of mixtures of and and then 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.960 you know Alvin kamar or is this yeah absolutely the 0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.560 beast right now? So you know, like, you know, I 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.719 think all I've tackling that is going to be very imperative. 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:30.880 And then um, I really liked the package of leaking 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.440 Pollard in the backfield. Um, how much is too much? 0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.520 And what would you to think about? How much would 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.680 be this? This enough of them and sharing the backfield 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.640 together to be answering a lot, hello, thank you to 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.120 answer his first questions might be the most important thing 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.759 very game, the most important thing. They tackle bad, they lose. 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.160 He could have had Kamara could have had eighteen catching, 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:55.799 he had nine. He could have had eighteen in this 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.880 game because he's leaking out and and Bridgewater goes somewhere 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:00.640 else with the ball. I mean, he is going to 0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.759 be a huge factor in this game. So the key 0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:08.840 thing on this So the third leading tackler in the 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:14.319 game against the Dolphins was Anthony Brown. Anthony Brown. So 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.520 if they're gonna go well, for if they're gonna go 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.920 three wide and try to run out of it, and 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:22.560 then your nickel corner in the slot has got to 0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.440 be able to play the run. Yeah, And that was 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:30.120 where Darren Woodson made his name, made his money because 0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.160 he could line up in the slot and take Jerry Rice. 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.959 He can line up in the slot and play the run. 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.759 And so with Camara, the way he plays, that guy 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.080 in the slot's going to be really important to help 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.360 and run support. Yeah, otherwise they're going to have problems. 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.480 And not just your linebackers that important. I wonder how 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:50.680 much dime they're going to play because they've got the 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.960 tied end to Hill that they might treat, you know again, 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.520 if that gets another good tackler. I think Jordan Lewis 0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.359 is a good tackler, you know. I mean, we saw 0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.000 what he was able to do last year in this game. 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.760 But maybe it just gives me and those good tacklers 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.000 as you can on the field, because you know, to 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.799 Denny's point and Mickey every point is you've got if 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.040 if I have a feel, if they tackle poorly in 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.239 this game, they're gonna lose. I just do I just don't. 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.200 I don't feel like you can. You know you can. 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.080 You gotta get off the field. You got to get 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.120 the offense back the ball. You've got to find a 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.799 way to steal a possession or two. You know, with 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.479 Breeze it would have been even more imperative, But now 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.319 I think that it's a little bit with Bridgewater. If 0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.759 you could get a couple of extra possessions and they 0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.120 don't score and you're scoring, that's gonna put a ton 0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.640 of pressure on him. That's exactly what the Rams did. 0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.520 They forced him to have to be a player in 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.480 this game, and he just wasn't capable of being that way, 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.000 they got him a lead against the Ram against the Seahawks, 0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.440 and he was a better player for it. So his 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.680 second question was about Zeke and Pollard together. Yeah, that's 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.640 Kellen Moore, right, that's Kellen Moore coming up with some plans, 0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:56.799 some ideas, some creative ways to to get them both 0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.560 in the same backfield. It does present a lot of 0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:00.640 problems of how you want to play that you can 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.480 you could have you can use you can use Politis 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.799 the receiver, Zeke as the blitz pick up guy, or 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.400 you can you know, you can put them both on 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.640 the field the same time, to go empty backfield and 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.080 put both them in the slot and have them you know, 0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.799 work underneath routes and stuff like that. Well how many 0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:20.000 times did we see it? It was one time particular. Yeah, 0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.839 I think it was maybe one or two that would 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.439 they will expand that package just for what Brian said, 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.719 because if you got them both on the field, you're 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.480 going heavy on defense, and then what happens when you 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.360 spread them out and put them in the past formation. 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.400 Now you've got mismatches probably with the linebackers. It was 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.840 a nice wrinkle to use, especially with Gallup and not 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.640 in the game and being out at this point, we'll 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.279 take a twenty here. All right, We're gonna take a 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.600 time out because we've got a read coming up from 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.719 Mickey and absolutely it can be hard to find the 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.360 right resource for learning about important financial matters. 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That was very good, Mickey, thank you, 0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:58.120 way to go, Hey y'all see choys tweet last night. 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.720 Yeah no, you did not. It was great. It was classic. 0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.400 There's something going on between him and Mahomes because he 0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:07.680 is There's something I don't know. But here's what happened. 0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:13.000 It was nine thirty last night. The Athletic Kansas City tweeted, 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:16.480 in case you missed it, Patrick Mahomes has thrown thirty 0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:20.239 six percent of Troy Aikman's career touchdowns and about eight 0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:24.520 percent of the games. Well, Troy saw that apparently, and 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:29.440 he tweeted, in case you missed it, talk to me 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.600 when he has thirty three percent of my Super Bowl titles. 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:38.680 Who It was so funny on Twitter to see how many, 0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:42.600 how quickly the likes and Larie tweets were happening. It's 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.239 a great equalizer, right, You'll get salty on you on 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.480 Twitter man within an hour because we used it on 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.359 our newski. I saw it at nine thirty. I told 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.920 Dandy or producer, I said, we got to use this, okay, 0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:56.839 And by that time, in forty minute, fifty minutes later, 0:42:56.880 --> 0:43:00.759 there were already forty thousand likes on Twitter. It's up 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.799 to one hundred and fifty two thousand now. But black 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.000 Kid is a good player, though. When Kansas is yes 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.319 he is. But what I like about it as much 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:13.879 as anything too. On Troy's tweet, it says, I see 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:15.880 why am I am I? In case you missed it, 0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.760 talk to me? When when he has thirty three percent, 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.920 he was so poed by it that he just quickly 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.520 responded to it. He didn't even proof read his tweeting 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:32.640 that happens. Well, you know who the top two rated 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.439 quarterbacks in the league are right now, don't you? I do, yes, 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.680 why don't you tell us? I think that would be 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:43.160 Mahomes and Prescott here, and Mahomes has a better cornerback 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:48.280 rating one thirty four nine to Dak's one twenty eight. 0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:53.560 He also Dak has a better completion percentage seventy four 0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:59.360 five to seventy one nine, and Mahomes has one more touchdown, 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.680 so it's and the nine And Dak's percentage poor attempt 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:08.440 is nine to six to his eight eight. So DA's 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:12.359 basically played as well as Mahomes has to start these 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:17.080 first three games. Through three games, through three games, we're 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.279 just awarding it. And by the way, I'm just I'm 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.880 saving this Troy Aitman tweet for Super Bowl week in Miami. 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:24.359 I think it's going to be great to be able 0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.720 to pull that out when the Cowboys play the Chiefs 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.720 in the Super Bowl in Miami, which is my prediction 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:31.879 from the beginning of the season. All Right, that does 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.640 it for this Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, who We'll 0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:38.840 talk at you again tomorrow. This has been a production 0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:42.719 of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.