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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Et stay here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. And it is

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday here at the Star in Frisco. It's the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and the New Orleans Saints on Sunday night. We

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Speaker 1: get you set for that as we go forward our

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Speaker 1: first tacoless Tuesday of the year. And uh, I am

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Speaker 1: Bill Jones alone with Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips and Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us. What's on your mind on a Tuesday morning?

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Speaker 1: Trying to figure out how this Saint team is going

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Speaker 1: to attack this Dallas defense with Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to figure out because I you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm jumping right into this thing. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm jumping right in because to me, man, this I

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Speaker 1: think always catch a huge break. I'm not captain obvious here,

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Speaker 1: I know, but without Drew Brees, but they're they're gonna

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Speaker 1: play differently offensively I think I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: really lean on the salmon Kamara, and they're going to

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Speaker 1: really lean on Michael Thompson to see if Dallas is

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Speaker 1: good enough to stop them. Well, that's what they did

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Speaker 1: against Seattle, and they total to hole two hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty five yards of offense. Mickey's been done some research

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Speaker 1: already this week if you want, But are they good enough?

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Speaker 1: But there's Dallas good enough to stop both of those

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Speaker 1: guys though, Mickey, if it does, if it does come

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Speaker 1: down to that, well, Seattle, I know they were playing

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Speaker 1: at home. Sure, they stopped them with nineteen points, right,

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Speaker 1: fourteen of them were on or thirteen because they missed

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Speaker 1: the extra point. So you have to feel good. We're

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Speaker 1: on returns, right, Yeah, So you feel good about this

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Speaker 1: defensive touchdown return in a punt return touchdown to start

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Speaker 1: the game off. Yeah. Yeah. So from an offensive standpoint, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kamara is a load. Yeah. I mean he touched the bald.

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Speaker 1: I think I added up twenty five times for one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty one yards. That was more than half

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Speaker 1: their offense from a yardage standpoint. Teddy Bridgewater didn't beat Seattle.

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Speaker 1: He was he didn't he didn't make any mistake. That

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Speaker 1: did his job. Yeah, that touchdowns, no interception, one yard

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Speaker 1: touchdown throw okay, and I've screen passed it was all Kamara,

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Speaker 1: so it wasn't like he lit him up. It definitely

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Speaker 1: starts with Alvin Kamara as we saw last year, and

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis did a great job with like eight snaps

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Speaker 1: against him. But Brian and I are talking to this

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Speaker 1: before the show started. Starter. Now, right, he's getting a lot.

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Speaker 1: He had twenty five touches in this game. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they still line him up everywhere. I mean, he's they're

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Speaker 1: featured back now, but I've I've gotten through the first

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Speaker 1: half of the seat game. You line them up in

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Speaker 1: a bunch formation, line him up out wid yeah, screen

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Speaker 1: with Blockerman front Roma screen, he's in the eye formation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the guy. He's the guy. Once again

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Speaker 1: that you got to be able to say, would you

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Speaker 1: would you take it right now? If you gave up

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Speaker 1: nineteen points to the Saints? Could I score more than nineteen? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I'm asking you is nineteen is that? Yeah? Absolutely

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Speaker 1: take that. I take nineteen if you if defensively We've

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Speaker 1: talked about that. Rod Marinelli in this bunch. They would rather,

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Speaker 1: they would rather give up limited points. And I don't

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Speaker 1: care about the yards. You think you can guarantee that

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Speaker 1: the Saints that usually play a lot better at home,

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Speaker 1: we're only going to get nineteen points on offense. Teddy Bridgewater,

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Speaker 1: they it's Teddy Bridgewater. Well, I started games in the league.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I wouldn't act like he's, you know,

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Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie coming in here playing. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: no different, It's offense different with them, That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: asking It is different. Yeah, ball didn't go down the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: see that's what That's what I'm saying. Rob. I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to attack you on this point. I just feel

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Speaker 1: like that this team, what how if you're the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: how do you prepare? Is it is? It? Is it? Okay,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna focus on Alvin Kamara and say, okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: take our chances that are recorded. Do you have enough

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Speaker 1: and again potentially out of this game, or do you

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Speaker 1: focus completely on taking Kamara out of this game? You

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Speaker 1: got to focus on him for sure, because if it breeze,

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Speaker 1: it Breeze is playing and now we're gonna need to

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Speaker 1: that's those are camping seen that from the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: we and their special teams are excellent too. I mean

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Speaker 1: two can pinions. Yeah, Mart, that's right. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: pretty good in the game. See that's I think this

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Speaker 1: you can say, okay, you got to stop one. But

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Speaker 1: they did a great job last year playing this game

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Speaker 1: and stopping a bunch a bunch of guys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they go, they harassed, they harassed. Is that the best

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Speaker 1: this defense has played since? I mean, is this call

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Speaker 1: the last time the defense this team played better than that?

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Speaker 1: Is there a game in the opposition? Yeah? Is there

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Speaker 1: a game that they've played better? And even last year

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Speaker 1: this year, is there a game they played better than

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Speaker 1: defensively than that game. Is that the best that we've

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Speaker 1: seen him play considering who the quarterback was? Absolutely hate

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Speaker 1: I hate playing that. I'm so this quarterback and the

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Speaker 1: guy next week, you know, the two guys back to back,

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Speaker 1: just like you wake up, You're like, oh God, not

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Speaker 1: these guys and the Rams not too far down. Yeah

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Speaker 1: with the rams Cat. I can deal with that Rams Cat.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, I'm just saying, no, bless you, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: I need mic not really. You just turned your head

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Speaker 1: like you're the doctor. Yeah yeah, doctor office or something

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Speaker 1: like that, you know. I feel, yeah, I feel like

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Speaker 1: though that that this game will hinge on the offense,

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Speaker 1: the Dallas's offense with the Cowboys defense in this game,

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Speaker 1: who will it hinge on? Who will the Who will

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Speaker 1: the game hinge on? Because the last time they played

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Speaker 1: last year, it hinged on the Dallas defense being able

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Speaker 1: to play absolutely now without Drew Brees on the field. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: because if you if you scored thirty one points, you're

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Speaker 1: hinges more on the Dallas defense. But I just I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, you go into the Superdome it's a different

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Speaker 1: it's a different question story I question. I just expect

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Speaker 1: their whole team to play better than they did, especially

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago and even last week in Seattle. That's

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Speaker 1: impressive win no matter how you do it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know though, that the home field

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Speaker 1: They couldn't cover more, was getting toasted. Yeah, you realize

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Speaker 1: Lockett had eleven catches for one hundred and fifty four yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the big difference Seattle. He's still their best player.

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Speaker 1: I would attack me personally, I'd attack the other guy.

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Speaker 1: But Mickey brings up a point. He brings up a

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Speaker 1: point about Lattimore playing that off coverage. Though that's kind

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Speaker 1: of not their tea. They had a lot of they had.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they need to get up tight and play

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Speaker 1: on you. But Mickey makes a point, Martial, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Saddle's offense wasn't that good. Wilson was running for his

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Speaker 1: that late was though? Late? They were they were behind

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Speaker 1: in the game, last touchdown, mean they had, they were down,

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Speaker 1: they were scrambling. I think at one point. It was

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Speaker 1: that last drive when they scored the untimed touchdown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were still they were still grinding. Yeah, I understand

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Speaker 1: what you're saying about Lattimore. I don't take my chances

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Speaker 1: if anything we've seen with this Cowboys offenses, they like

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Speaker 1: to work the middle of that field, and if those

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Speaker 1: two safeties aren't going to cover, playing coverage or helping

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Speaker 1: coverage by all means to continue to attack, or if

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Speaker 1: they're going to back off the way Miami did, then

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Speaker 1: he leave the middle of the field open. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: the offense scoring and be able to block their front,

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Speaker 1: because I think their front's pretty good. That's that's good,

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Speaker 1: good analogy, right, if you can block them and give

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Speaker 1: your quarterback time because uh, Wilson had no time whatsoever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I didn't count how many times

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Speaker 1: he ran the ball, right he was running for his

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Running the ball, absolutely, that's going to

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Speaker 1: play it. But but the the opponent already knows the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys can run the ball, and so you don't have

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Speaker 1: to run the ball first. You can throw the ball

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Speaker 1: first because they're they're defending the run to start the

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Speaker 1: Got a veteran quarterback, veteran offensive line express crowd boys

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be a problem, shouldn't There's there's gonna be rhetorical.

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Speaker 1: There's there's gonna be Cowboy fans as it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: it's a Sunday night. Probably. I leaned towards the Dallas

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Speaker 1: defense as the biggest key here and and getting a

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Speaker 1: couple stops early and trying to take the crowd out

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Speaker 1: of it. Can they play the way they have the

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Speaker 1: last three weeks and win this game? The defense? The defense?

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Speaker 1: Mickey say that again? Can they play? Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was getting something on Paris. Yeah, good

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Speaker 1: Jack Black question to you there? Yeah, well you could

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Speaker 1: talk to Mickey. I always talked to Mickey Cowboys. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: can play on defense the way they last three weeks

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Speaker 1: and win this football game. Can they play? Yes? Yes,

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Speaker 1: sorry I was They can't as they eliminate the last

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Speaker 1: drives in those first two games score defense. So if

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Speaker 1: last week, they will win this game. Yeah. Yeah. They

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Speaker 1: gave up sixty five yards absolutely no points. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what though, man, and the pressure was better. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to get after Teddy Bridge. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: have any time to prepare pair. Yeah, but when he

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Speaker 1: went in that game, it was about Clay Matthews. It

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Speaker 1: It is gambling, That's what I thought. Free to play free,

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Speaker 1: you know, and they're asking about is something wrong with

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith? Can I get your opinions on what you

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Speaker 1: guys have seen from Jalen Smith as a player so far?

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Speaker 1: And I and I've got I know, I've got my

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Speaker 1: answer for that. That sarreo. But I'll let you guys start.

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Speaker 1: But they wanted to know, is something wrong with you?

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Speaker 1: And I know something physically is not wrong with him

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Speaker 1: because I asked, But I just wondered if you guys

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Speaker 1: saw something differently. No, I mean I said it on

447
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Speaker 1: the show yesterday. They have a good linebacker in their

448
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Speaker 1: reserves with Joe Thomas, and maybe they saw something in

449
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Speaker 1: the matchup where hey, we can give him a series

450
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Speaker 1: and he can help. But no, I don't see him limited.

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Speaker 1: I really don't physically in the game, and I know

452
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Speaker 1: he had to come off the field the first two games.

453
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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett spoke to it yesterday. We just wanted to

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Speaker 1: create a rotation and they they did do that last

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Speaker 1: year at the beginning of the year before Sean Lee

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Speaker 1: got hurt. They gave and I know, Vanderesh's first round pick,

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Speaker 1: but they gave him a series here and there. And

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Speaker 1: they not only spelled Jalen, they spelled Sean Lee with

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Speaker 1: with Joe Thomas, if I'm not mistaken. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's you should read too much into that.

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee played fourteen plays, so that tells you basically

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Speaker 1: fourteen times they were in three linebackers. Yeah, base, So

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Speaker 1: I don't know that at nickel is Jalen Smith's forte

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Speaker 1: unless you're blitzing him. And if you notice that towards

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Speaker 1: the end of the game, when Miami was in ketchup mode,

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Speaker 1: they were going three down and Jalen was standing up

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Speaker 1: as the fourth down line well rush rusher, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he blitzing. He's much better going I think we've always

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Speaker 1: said that, right, he's better going forward and going backwards,

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Speaker 1: especially especially he was coming right off of that injury.

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Speaker 1: But still, and I think maybe what they noticed is like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas is a little a little better at that,

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Speaker 1: Let's get him in there, because they're not. They're they're

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Speaker 1: going nickel every play, every play, almost sou and a

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Speaker 1: lot of that has to do with the fact that

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are way ahead in these games. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: So I didn't see anything wrong with it. So where

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Speaker 1: this is all coming from because they asked me the

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Speaker 1: question this morning. Yeah, are my favorite site, p p

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Speaker 1: F had him ranked the fifty eighth best linebacker in

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Speaker 1: the league. Sure after three games. Sure, So that's where

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Speaker 1: it's coming from. Yeah, So it's because they're always right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is in the mail for you? Bill? What about you?

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Speaker 1: And I I haven't noticed anything that out of the

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Speaker 1: ordinary from what I've seen before from him. And I

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Speaker 1: agree with Mickey. I've always thought that he's a better

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Speaker 1: going forward than going back. I like, I would like

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Speaker 1: to see him use him more in rush type situations.

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Speaker 1: You know. I've always even in like what Rob said,

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Speaker 1: coming off the injury, it was a way to it

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Speaker 1: was a way to use him when they had Hitchens

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Speaker 1: and Lee. It was a way to use him coming

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Speaker 1: off the edge, you know, and have a package for him. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I like to see it now to get him

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Speaker 1: on the field, maybe even in nickel situations, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know the interesting thing And I'll let you say

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Speaker 1: what you're just chopping at the bit to say about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But the other thing that I would say is it

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Speaker 1: is interesting that he's got this big contract. And my

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Speaker 1: question is is he in this defense with the Layton

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Speaker 1: vanderg is he a three down linebacker? See that's to me.

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Speaker 1: I think Mickey nailed this. I think you do not

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Speaker 1: want to play him in pass coverage. You want to

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Speaker 1: play him attacking when they got when they actually had

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Speaker 1: some sacks. When they had the sacks, he was involved

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Speaker 1: with the picks and stuff like that, him and Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and those guys. He can affect the pocket as a blitzer,

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Speaker 1: and so if you're going to use him as a

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Speaker 1: three down player but have him as the extra rusher,

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Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense. Yeah, I think that's the Yet

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Speaker 1: he can be a three down linebacker, but yetive have

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Speaker 1: to be creative of how to use him. And you

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Speaker 1: know what the problem is I think right now is

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Speaker 1: as fans out there, we see them not making a

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Speaker 1: bunch of splash plays. We're not seeing the run to

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Speaker 1: the sidelines and knock Deshaun Watson completely off the field.

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Speaker 1: You know, on fourth down, we're not seeing the tackle

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Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. And you can include I

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Speaker 1: think the linebackers as a whole. That was one of

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Speaker 1: the strengths that I felt like that they had going

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Speaker 1: into the season. We just haven't seen the linebackers as

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Speaker 1: a whole make those splash plays. So now he's getting

523
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Speaker 1: paid and now we don't see the splash plays. And

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Speaker 1: where's Vanderesh. Oh wait, they're playing Joe Thomas Sean Lee's

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Speaker 1: only playing fourteen plays. There's a lot of things going

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Speaker 1: on here where the fan is looking at the looking

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Speaker 1: at it just as you know, like with tunnel vision,

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Speaker 1: whereas the big picture. Yeah, they're not giving up points. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're you know, every week you look at him, it's

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Speaker 1: Vanders has ten tackles, Jalen Smith has ten tackles, Vanders

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Speaker 1: has nine times. You know, every week they have tackles.

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Speaker 1: But we're not seeing the splash plays. So when you

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Speaker 1: don't see the splash plays, you're not thinking, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: he's not playing. Well, I don't remember him doing anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that play he made it, They didn't show him doing anything.

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Speaker 1: That play he made on the goal line to rip

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Speaker 1: the ball out of the out of the running backs

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Speaker 1: hands as he's going away from the play, and to

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Speaker 1: reach back instinctively, just reach back and just be strong

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Speaker 1: enough to pull the ball out of his hands. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's the that's your splash play. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: the see but but but Joe flower Mound's going he's

543
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Speaker 1: not making enough of those. He's not making Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: not he's not having sacks, he's not tackling behind the line.

545
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: He's I mean, you know, these linebackers, you know, their

546
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Speaker 1: bar is very very high, I mean very high with

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Speaker 1: the way that they're playing and I to me, you know,

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00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: that's where you know, give them an opportunity to kind

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00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: of get things going, because I think you will see

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Speaker 1: some splash plays from these guys. But to to say that,

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00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, Smith is not hurt, but everybody out there

552
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: is now taking this tunnel vision of him, like, oh,

553
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: he got paid and he's not making any plays. That

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Speaker 1: play on the goal line was a huge play because

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Speaker 1: it kept it kept the Dolphins out of the end

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Speaker 1: zone and potentially taking the lead. And if he go

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Speaker 1: back and look at it, he's the one that messed

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Speaker 1: up to play. He didn't make the tackle right, but

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Speaker 1: he caused the running back to move to the side

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Speaker 1: because he was coming through right that gap. They had

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Speaker 1: ten tackles in the game. Yeah. See, that's where I

562
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: think you get in trouble when we don't know what

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Speaker 1: specifically for the scheme his plans are. We don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's again me personally. I mean I watched

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Speaker 1: the stuff every week and there's questions that I had,

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Speaker 1: like was he supposed to do this? Or was he

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Speaker 1: supposed to do you know? And I try and ask

568
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 1: the coaches want to see him you know, well, no,

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Speaker 1: this is where and then I write about it that way.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we have to be really careful

571
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Speaker 1: talking about these cowboy linebackers because there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a game, and it might be this week. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to They're gonna have to be ready

574
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Speaker 1: for Alan Kamara running that football, downhill, toss sweeps, things

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Speaker 1: like that, ball inside, fit, finish, all those things are

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. And if they get blown up this week

577
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Speaker 1: and who's the game, it probably because they didn't tackle

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00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: well enough, they didn't fit, they didn't finish, and they

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Speaker 1: weren't happy with that in Week one and it wasn't

580
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Speaker 1: just the one Barkley run. The Giants ran it pretty well,

581
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: but these last couple of games, it's like two and

582
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Speaker 1: a half three yards of carry. Yeah, and I know

583
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Speaker 1: it's not you know, big time Peterson has been a

584
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Speaker 1: big time runner. That's linebackers having to do with some

585
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Speaker 1: of their run defense that they fixed the last two weeks.

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00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: You're right about the splash plays, though, I think I

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Speaker 1: will raise my hand in blame. I'll raise my hand

588
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Speaker 1: in blame for being a guy that watched thirty practices

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Speaker 1: and when we were on in Oxnard and training camp

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff like that and saying, hey, the

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Speaker 1: strength of this team is this linebacker crew. I'll be

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Speaker 1: the first to admit that because I believed in my

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Speaker 1: heart and watching these guys play last year and saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what I saw in training camp, this is what you're

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Speaker 1: going to see again this year. I mean, if I'm

596
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Speaker 1: influencing people to say that, you know that these guys

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Speaker 1: the bar it was this high, I'll take I'll take

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Speaker 1: the blame. That part of why you said that is

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Speaker 1: because of their death and because Joe Thomas was a

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Speaker 1: starting line Thomas was a most camp in preseason and

601
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: the guy was a stud. Yeah, so that's it's not

602
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: surprising to see him come in the game and play

603
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: well because we've seen him do it when called upon.

604
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Speaker 1: Sure it was surprising though that Jalen really didn't come

605
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Speaker 1: off the field for two games and then here he

606
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Speaker 1: is giving a series here there to Joe, and like

607
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: Mickey said, maybe it turned into a passing game and

608
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're like, we don't want to

609
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Speaker 1: just keep using him on the blitz. We want to

610
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: put Joe Thomas on the field. And but Joe Thomas

611
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: not only played for Smith. He played for Shawn Lee too,

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Speaker 1: so half of Shawn Lee's I mean you look at

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee eight r. Yeah, you look at Sean Lee

614
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Speaker 1: snaps right there fourteen. It wasn't just Jaalen, it wasn't

615
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Speaker 1: just Ja. They put Joe Thomas. It's like, yeah, it's

616
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Speaker 1: like they put a gut It's like a gut feeling.

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Speaker 1: It's like a manager sending up a pinch hitter. You know, Hey, Bill,

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Speaker 1: get the back, go hit. You know, It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you have to have a gut feeling that maybe

620
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Speaker 1: in this scheme or maybe against his team, that they

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Speaker 1: were going to have to do things a little bit differently.

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Speaker 1: And Joe Thomas got the opportunity because, like Rob said

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Speaker 1: all during training camp, we said, Joe Thomas is getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of work and he's looking pretty damn good

625
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Speaker 1: doing the work. I mean, they gave they gave Tony

626
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Speaker 1: Pollard a chance late in the game to salt this

627
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: thing away. What does that say about Zeke Nothing, Zeke

628
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Speaker 1: Elliot's great opportunity against Miami to give guys a look

629
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Speaker 1: and see what you got. Darren Thompson, I mean, here

630
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: was the other thing that came out also because Pollard

631
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Speaker 1: played that way, do you wish you didn't give Zeke

632
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Speaker 1: all that money? Well, that's that's another question. See, that's

633
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be the next you know, if we were

634
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Speaker 1: on the radio every day, and it might even be

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Speaker 1: five three. But they're you know, they're talking about do

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Speaker 1: to do a show. If you're just saying, do they

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Speaker 1: have buyer's remorse on on Lawrence? Do they have buyer's

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Speaker 1: remorse on you know, all these guys that they paid,

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Speaker 1: you know? And I thought that was an unusual angle

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know, if that's what they're If that's

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna do, fine, But I'm just saying though

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Speaker 1: to me listening, Yeah, give me, give me all the

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Speaker 1: me you know, MARII give me all the best players.

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Speaker 1: That's why you're able to match up in these games

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Speaker 1: and had potentially have some success. So let's go to

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Speaker 1: the phone line. We got Denny and ay here. Oh

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Speaker 1: well we don't want anyway, right hello Ny? Yeah? Um,

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Speaker 1: I have two questions on like, um, how important will

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Speaker 1: it be our tackling this game? You know, like because

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Speaker 1: I saw a lot of screens and yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot a lot of mixtures of and and then

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Speaker 1: you know Alvin kamar or is this yeah absolutely the

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Speaker 1: beast right now? So you know, like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think all I've tackling that is going to be very imperative.

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Speaker 1: And then um, I really liked the package of leaking

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Speaker 1: Pollard in the backfield. Um, how much is too much?

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Speaker 1: And what would you to think about? How much would

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Speaker 1: be this? This enough of them and sharing the backfield

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Speaker 1: together to be answering a lot, hello, thank you to

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Speaker 1: answer his first questions might be the most important thing

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Speaker 1: very game, the most important thing. They tackle bad, they lose.

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Speaker 1: He could have had Kamara could have had eighteen catching,

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Speaker 1: he had nine. He could have had eighteen in this

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Speaker 1: game because he's leaking out and and Bridgewater goes somewhere

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Speaker 1: else with the ball. I mean, he is going to

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Speaker 1: be a huge factor in this game. So the key

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Speaker 1: thing on this So the third leading tackler in the

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Speaker 1: game against the Dolphins was Anthony Brown. Anthony Brown. So

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna go well, for if they're gonna go

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Speaker 1: three wide and try to run out of it, and

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Speaker 1: then your nickel corner in the slot has got to

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Speaker 1: be able to play the run. Yeah, And that was

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Speaker 1: where Darren Woodson made his name, made his money because

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Speaker 1: he could line up in the slot and take Jerry Rice.

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Speaker 1: He can line up in the slot and play the run.

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Speaker 1: And so with Camara, the way he plays, that guy

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Speaker 1: in the slot's going to be really important to help

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Speaker 1: and run support. Yeah, otherwise they're going to have problems.

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Speaker 1: And not just your linebackers that important. I wonder how

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Speaker 1: much dime they're going to play because they've got the

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Speaker 1: tied end to Hill that they might treat, you know again,

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Speaker 1: if that gets another good tackler. I think Jordan Lewis

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Speaker 1: is a good tackler, you know. I mean, we saw

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Speaker 1: what he was able to do last year in this game.

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Speaker 1: But maybe it just gives me and those good tacklers

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Speaker 1: as you can on the field, because you know, to

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Speaker 1: Denny's point and Mickey every point is you've got if

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Speaker 1: if I have a feel, if they tackle poorly in

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Speaker 1: this game, they're gonna lose. I just do I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like you can. You know you can.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get off the field. You got to get

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Speaker 1: the offense back the ball. You've got to find a

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Speaker 1: way to steal a possession or two. You know, with

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Speaker 1: Breeze it would have been even more imperative, But now

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Speaker 1: I think that it's a little bit with Bridgewater. If

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Speaker 1: you could get a couple of extra possessions and they

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Speaker 1: don't score and you're scoring, that's gonna put a ton

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Speaker 1: of pressure on him. That's exactly what the Rams did.

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Speaker 1: They forced him to have to be a player in

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Speaker 1: second question was about Zeke and Pollard together. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, right, that's Kellen Moore coming up with some plans,

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Speaker 1: some ideas, some creative ways to to get them both

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Speaker 1: you can you know, you can put them both on

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Speaker 1: put both them in the slot and have them you know,

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Speaker 1: work underneath routes and stuff like that. Well how many

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Speaker 1: times did we see it? It was one time particular. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it was maybe one or two that would

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Speaker 1: they will expand that package just for what Brian said,

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Speaker 1: way to go, Hey y'all see choys tweet last night.

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Speaker 1: There's something going on between him and Mahomes because he

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Speaker 1: Kid is a good player, though. When Kansas is yes

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Speaker 1: that happens. Well, you know who the top two rated

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Speaker 1: why don't you tell us? I think that would be

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Speaker 1: rating one thirty four nine to Dak's one twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: He also Dak has a better completion percentage seventy four

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Speaker 1: basically played as well as Mahomes has to start these

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be great to be able

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl in Miami, which is my prediction

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