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Speaker 1: All Christmas eve? Wonderful, wonderful doing. Good man, this is
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Speaker 1: to the end of twenty twenty. Christmas is here, and man,
Speaker 1: it's just a blessing to be with you guys. Now,
Speaker 1: everything's good this way, no, man, I mean my pockets
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Speaker 1: of the year, you know, But everything's good, man, I'm good.
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Speaker 1: I haven't been in forever here. Well, it depends on
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Speaker 1: come to our side either, by the way, all right,
Speaker 1: these are the changes that we've had for COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty. Hopefully we can get back to the
Speaker 1: way things used to be. Twenty one Cowboys hosting the
Speaker 1: Eagles at A and T and T Stadium on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Here m make one start with you on this. Antoine Woods,
Speaker 1: Layton Xavier Woods could possibly miss this football game. What
Speaker 1: will that mean? Mickey? Start with us and everybody go
Speaker 1: around here and give me your take of these three
Speaker 1: gentlemen aren't line up on Sunday. Yeah, and the Woods,
Speaker 1: the Woods is are not practicing again today. They didn't
Speaker 1: practice yesterday, so yeah, it looks like they're probably missing
Speaker 1: the game. Layton Vanderish, I think with a high ankle sprain,
Speaker 1: he's probably definitely out. He hasn't practiced. Ezekiel Elliott was
Speaker 1: going to be limited today and I think they're hopeful
Speaker 1: that he can make it. Same thing with Blake Bell.
Speaker 1: He's got an illness and he hasn't practiced these last
Speaker 1: two days, but McCarthy anticipates him being ready to go.
Speaker 1: And Michael Gallup was full yesterday expected to be full today,
Speaker 1: so he should be good to go. So yeah, the
Speaker 1: two woodses what a Xavier down. Likely they'll use Darian
Speaker 1: Thompson as one of the safeties along with Donovan Wilson,
Speaker 1: and as Mike talked today, they'll probably be be training
Speaker 1: some of one or two of the corners to fill
Speaker 1: in at the safety position along with Reggie Robinson if
Speaker 1: indeed he's ready. At least he played more special teams
Speaker 1: tackles in this in this pass game, ask for Antoine.
Speaker 1: That means Justin Hamilton plan more at defensive tackle. And
Speaker 1: you know, if you noticed what they did last week
Speaker 1: when they went into their nickel in definite passing situations,
Speaker 1: they moved Alden Smith inside as a defensive tackle and
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford. So that'll be a shared position without Antoine
Speaker 1: in there, and you'd sure like to have him in
Speaker 1: there because, as you know, dying well, what Philadelphia wants
Speaker 1: to do. They want to run the football like everybody
Speaker 1: else wants to do against this Cowboys defense. Thoughts, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of the guys that we potentially
Speaker 1: might be missing. I know, we typically have the Connor bros.
Speaker 1: That we're talking about, but the Woods bros. Now, both
Speaker 1: of those guys, their presence are going to be dearly missed,
Speaker 1: obviously in the secondary, just that veteran presence back there.
Speaker 1: Not even that he's been that exceptional this year, because
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has been on that on that
Speaker 1: side of things, but I think you just had just
Speaker 1: that veteran presence and having all of our guys last
Speaker 1: week was huge. So we'll definitely miss him Lvie. I
Speaker 1: don't think that we'll miss Lvee as much as people think.
Speaker 1: I know that he's in there. He's a shot caller,
Speaker 1: he's a captain on that side, and really controls everything
Speaker 1: on the defense side of the ball. But we have
Speaker 1: another intellectual guy in the form of Sean lead At
Speaker 1: a step in, and I'm a big fan of Joe
Speaker 1: Thomas and his athleticism and what he brings to this team.
Speaker 1: With him and Jaylen Smith hopefully being able to if
Speaker 1: they're making the right and if they are where they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be, their athleticism will pay huge dividends this
Speaker 1: game against this against this offense. And I think probably
Speaker 1: more than more than anything, we're gonna miss the big
Speaker 1: boy in the middle, Big Woods, because we know um
Speaker 1: as making ready alluded to it, these guys are gonna
Speaker 1: try to run the ball at us, and you need
Speaker 1: somebody to really clog some things up because they're gonna
Speaker 1: try to pull their guards, um and pull their centers
Speaker 1: and things of that nature to try to get off
Speaker 1: on the edge. So I think out of every position
Speaker 1: that we're gonna be missing out of those guys, I
Speaker 1: think big Woods in the middle is probably gonna be
Speaker 1: the biggest loss we have. You know, I say, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna argue with you on Christmas Eve about them.
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna do it. But you know, of
Speaker 1: the linebackers that I feel like, you know, all the
Speaker 1: run stuffers, the guys that do better against the run,
Speaker 1: LV is the one. And like Mix said, you know
Speaker 1: what the Eagles are gonna do. They're gonna run the ball.
Speaker 1: And no one is hedging their bets against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: not trying to establish the running game the entire game.
Speaker 1: But with the way that the numbers have been against
Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense. But you guys have already said it
Speaker 1: with Antoine Woods in the middle, he'll be missing that rotation.
Speaker 1: But again, Neville Gallimore has shown you that he has
Speaker 1: the ability to make plays behind Hamilton with Hamilton and
Speaker 1: the other guys. Uh and just look, man, our defense
Speaker 1: as of late has you know, the turnover differential and
Speaker 1: all of that has made the difference in these ball games.
Speaker 1: So if they can continue that, even with the guys
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have missing, I'm excited about their chances
Speaker 1: on Sunday. But you know, in the back half of
Speaker 1: our defense, if we fill in with guys like you know,
Speaker 1: obviously having Donovan Wilson Thompson back there, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not as worried about the secondary simply because, like you said, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: it's not as though we've had exceptional play from Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods all season. So I mean, again there's the communication
Speaker 1: that I feel like we've gotten better over the last
Speaker 1: couple of games and hopefully we can continue with that. Man,
Speaker 1: you're looking good. I love the Christmas outfit. Man, you
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Speaker 1: Um let me let me just dive here into this
Speaker 1: Eagles and Isaiah I want to start with you on this.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts he's about to make another start, and the
Speaker 1: young man from Oklahoma and Alabama. In his first few games,
Speaker 1: he's been electric. And that game against Arizona, he was
Speaker 1: three hundred three eight yards in the air for three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and he ran on the ball eleven times for sixty
Speaker 1: three yards and a touchdown, four toll touchdowns. If you
Speaker 1: were Mike Nolan, how do you slow up Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: who's come in here and electrified this Eagle's offense man.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, knew you simplify things and
Speaker 1: you you just make sure that guys understand what their
Speaker 1: role is, who they are, what their role is on
Speaker 1: his team. Right, tell them to play within themselves and
Speaker 1: within their position. You ask guys to be as discipline
Speaker 1: as they can be because there's really no win. Whether
Speaker 1: you sit back in the zone, he's gonna pick you apart. Right.
Speaker 1: Everybody talks about his athleticism, but a beheaved as we
Speaker 1: saw last week, he is. He is picking guys a bar.
Speaker 1: He is precise with his passes. He's sitting back there.
Speaker 1: He's confident his office. A line was given him time
Speaker 1: and he could die that thing up. He's smart enough
Speaker 1: to identify what the coverages are in the weak spots
Speaker 1: in his ownes. So you don't want to just sit back, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: what's the opposite of that? People say, well, how about
Speaker 1: we blitz him, right, Let's put some pressure on him,
Speaker 1: let's make him uncomfortable. Well, that's probably not what you
Speaker 1: want to do either, because he's one of the more
Speaker 1: athletic quarterbacks in this league. Oh, he's probably the strongest
Speaker 1: quarterback in this league. I would probably say as well.
Speaker 1: So that's probably not gonna work out too well for you.
Speaker 1: So if I can't blitz and I can't sit back
Speaker 1: in coverage, what do I do? Well? Again, you ask
Speaker 1: guys to play the coverage that you're that you're that
Speaker 1: you're calling, and you just tell them to be disciplined
Speaker 1: and play team ball. And that's the only way that
Speaker 1: you're gonna that You're gonna get this guy and hope
Speaker 1: that he that he lays a ball on the ground.
Speaker 1: As I know, Heck is gonna gonna talk about how
Speaker 1: he's susceptible to turnovers in that regard. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: allow up. Yeah newly. I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: with the NFL being a league based off of evaluating guys,
Speaker 1: and I believe with the way he's come in, a
Speaker 1: lot of defensive coordinators hadn't been able to pick apart
Speaker 1: his game. See what he likes to do and see
Speaker 1: what Peterson likes to set him up. Now the film
Speaker 1: is out there and you can start to kind of
Speaker 1: figure out where they're trying to place him with the
Speaker 1: bootlegs and motions and things like that to make him comfortable. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, his skill set from Carson Wentz is pretty
Speaker 1: much night and day. I feel like just because Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: I believe talent wise is the better is the better quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's just having a horrible year uh this year. But
Speaker 1: for our defense, it's it's the things that got us
Speaker 1: in trouble in the past. Right, guy's not playing assignment
Speaker 1: sound and admit ad libbing and just doing things on
Speaker 1: their own. We have to get home that we have
Speaker 1: to manufacture that pass rush with not not adding extra
Speaker 1: guys to it. And that's that's gonna fall in the
Speaker 1: lap of God's like Tank Lawrence uh and getting that
Speaker 1: backside pressure and Randy Gregory as well Alden Smith. You know,
Speaker 1: these are the names that we're gonna have to be
Speaker 1: saying a lot by making Jalen Hurts uncomfortable. He's still
Speaker 1: a rookie, right, He's still a rookie. And as much
Speaker 1: as we want to you know, pump him up because
Speaker 1: of the match up. There are some things that I
Speaker 1: feel like, Mike Nolan should you do to make him uncomfortable?
Speaker 1: And those things obviously going to be with tinkering his coverage.
Speaker 1: You know, Showman plays own things like that too. Safety
Speaker 1: maybe one safety high, just to confuse the looks that
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurst believes that he has pre snapped. You know, guys,
Speaker 1: I had lost connection there, so I wasn't concentrate on
Speaker 1: whatever everything you said. But if they don't stop the run,
Speaker 1: they aren't going to get a chance to rush the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So they better be able to figure out how to
Speaker 1: stop the run. And especially if Philadelphia decides to go
Speaker 1: two tight ends or two running backs, and then the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are coming in there with their little nickel defense
Speaker 1: and some skinny ass safety close to the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage instead of another linebacker, And now you're down a
Speaker 1: linebacker without Layton vander Esh. You know, you again to
Speaker 1: play Shaun Lee and Joe Thomas. But again, to me,
Speaker 1: you're overwhelmed than personnel if they go a run heavy
Speaker 1: offense and you're sitting there in your nickel defense. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys, talked about getting pressure on Jalen Hurts, and
Speaker 1: I get that, but if they start running the football.
Speaker 1: I mean you talked about how the defense played better.
Speaker 1: They gave up one hundred and fifty yards rushing to
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and San Francisco had a big neon sign
Speaker 1: out there saying We're going to run and they couldn't
Speaker 1: stop it. So to me, they got to stop Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts from running, and they got to stop the rest
Speaker 1: of that Philadelphia offense from running. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I would rather see Carson Rentz Wentz out there than
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts running around with the football. So make it's
Speaker 1: still an upset about that Baltimore defense that Mike Rola
Speaker 1: ran out there. Hey, I got a question for you, Mick.
Speaker 1: I know, I know you said the neon I think
Speaker 1: I saw the neon sign flashing too. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw that as well. Maybe it was just
Speaker 1: me blinking a lot, but but San Francisco came in
Speaker 1: here and did what they did. We didn't necessarily stop
Speaker 1: them a whole bunch, right, they were running the ball
Speaker 1: like they wanted to. My question is, and my concern,
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about the skinny the skinny secondary
Speaker 1: guy coming down there. But I feel as if we
Speaker 1: almost have to bring in a secondary guy to guard
Speaker 1: if they do go two tights with these tight ends,
Speaker 1: because these tight ends can get off the ball. These
Speaker 1: tight ends are both dangerous and Jalen It likes to
Speaker 1: throw to these guys and he's gonna put it on
Speaker 1: the money, So he's gonna body up some smaller guys
Speaker 1: and he's gonna run by the linebackers. So both of you,
Speaker 1: so what what do you do as a defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: if you're if you're facing these guys. If I'm the
Speaker 1: de coordinator, I'm gonna bring my my extra safeties in.
Speaker 1: I know, we got about thirty of them now right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring one of my extra safeties in. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell these guys put your hands on these
Speaker 1: guys at the line of scrimmage and disrupt it. And
Speaker 1: if they run the ball, you need to get on
Speaker 1: the outside and shoot and hunker down and have leverage.
Speaker 1: And I hope that your boys come home from the inside. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing I can the thing I worry about also
Speaker 1: is one of the things he started doing these last
Speaker 1: couple games is playing a five man line with Dorin's
Speaker 1: armstrong acting like a strong side linebacker that he's not,
Speaker 1: by the way. And so now once you miss a gap,
Speaker 1: you only got one linebacker standing there, and it's it's
Speaker 1: Katie Barr the door you're gone. To me, that second
Speaker 1: level of the defense is non existent when you do that,
Speaker 1: and I think that causes problems. I worry about him running.
Speaker 1: I know he threw for three hundred yards last week,
Speaker 1: but the first week he started, he ran for one
Speaker 1: hundred yards. And we saw what Lamar Jackson did running
Speaker 1: the ball. We saw what Kyler Murray did running the ball.
Speaker 1: They've got to figure out how to stop that before
Speaker 1: they earned the right to rush the quarterback. So, menike,
Speaker 1: let me say this. So when we say the defense
Speaker 1: is playing better, we're saying, look, they didn't give up
Speaker 1: three hundred yards. They gave a bunch of fifty yards
Speaker 1: over the business in last place. We gotta find a
Speaker 1: civil lining to all of this. Obviously, you know you
Speaker 1: gotta line up and stop the run for the Eagles. True,
Speaker 1: but you can't. Maybe you can't take away everything in
Speaker 1: our Achilles Hill has been the amount of yards that
Speaker 1: we've been giving up in the running game. So as
Speaker 1: long as they don't go for three hundred, yeah, we
Speaker 1: should be okay. No, as long as they take the
Speaker 1: ball over, tike the ball away four times, they're okay.
Speaker 1: If you don't get those takeaways. San Francisco had four
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight yards. I forgot I put the quarterback.
Speaker 1: It was a backup quarterback and they had four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty eight yards. Come on, all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a break here. Nicky's fired up and I love fired up, Mickey.
Speaker 1: I love fired up, Mickey. I do want to discuss
Speaker 1: some comments that Ezekiel Elliott made to the media. Also
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore's job status and that possibly he could be
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Speaker 1: a Christmas Eve of the players londs. We got to
Speaker 1: scramble today, all right, the no buried Church, No Danny mcgraide.
Speaker 1: They'll be back with me on Monday. We'll be at
Speaker 1: our two thirty pm Central starting time. But today we
Speaker 1: got heck my Harrison, Isaiah stand back and Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 1: doing it with me. Nui scrugs and um let me
Speaker 1: dive into one ezekiel alliet. This has been the most
Speaker 1: disappointing year of Zeke's career, and he missed last week
Speaker 1: this game with a calf injury, says he wants to play.
Speaker 1: This is what Ezekiel had to say about people calling
Speaker 1: for his job because Tony Pollard looked good last last
Speaker 1: week filling in for him, and he said, quote, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, those people aren't signing my checks.
Speaker 1: Those aren't the cats that are making the final decision.
Speaker 1: I think there's a reason they're not the ones making
Speaker 1: those decisions. I don't think it really matters. Hackman's going
Speaker 1: to start with you your thoughts on Ezekiel Elliott and
Speaker 1: what he had to say, because there are people who
Speaker 1: were disappointed in his performance this year, and you've seen
Speaker 1: social media, some people saying he's overrated. Some people say
Speaker 1: it's a bad deal your tech. Yeah, I mean fair
Speaker 1: enough from ezekiel standpoint to say that. And this has
Speaker 1: just been one of those things in twenty twenty that
Speaker 1: people have been talking about him and losing a burst,
Speaker 1: losing burst and not being what he used to be
Speaker 1: in years past. And he hears the whispers from that,
Speaker 1: especially like you said, on social media, but he has
Speaker 1: to keep his blinder zone and not pay attention to
Speaker 1: things like that, and even the people that are saying
Speaker 1: that Tony Pollard was that much better of a running
Speaker 1: back than him on last Sunday, Obviously we're not looking
Speaker 1: at the carriers and numbers before that forty yard touchdown Birst.
Speaker 1: So look, I think for it's about getting his health back,
Speaker 1: about having those OTA's training camps, and really coming back
Speaker 1: stronger next year. This has been an off year, and
Speaker 1: the people and the people that are not given credit
Speaker 1: to the fact that he has been running behind a
Speaker 1: beat up offensive line and not been and hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to be the running back that he had been
Speaker 1: in the past. I just I think that they are
Speaker 1: looking at this and they're being very short sighted. It's
Speaker 1: not a beat up offensive line, it's a second rate
Speaker 1: offensive line. What you said, they ain't got nobody that
Speaker 1: can block, you know, if you can't protect the quarterback,
Speaker 1: which makes you think you can block through the running game,
Speaker 1: and you know, you guys said these people who are
Speaker 1: these people? Did these people realize that Tony Pollard had
Speaker 1: ten carries for twenty three yards before his last two
Speaker 1: carries for forty six yards, he was averaging two point
Speaker 1: three yards of carry. It wasn't because of his talent.
Speaker 1: It was because that offensive line can't run block and
Speaker 1: they have been able to run block all season long.
Speaker 1: Once they lose three starters, and to me, you guys,
Speaker 1: and you tell me if you think so or not,
Speaker 1: think lost four starters because I think Tyler Beidis had
Speaker 1: won that starting center job. Ye. Yeah, you guys are
Speaker 1: on the money for all those people. First of all,
Speaker 1: let me address Zeke. Zeke, um bro, don't don't listen
Speaker 1: to these casts. So every understands. Everybody's gonna have an
Speaker 1: opinion regardless. Everybody has an opinion. You don't have to
Speaker 1: agree with it or you can roll with it. Either way,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have an opinion. Okay, So don't have to
Speaker 1: listen to it. You don't even have to respond to
Speaker 1: these people when you talk about these people, Mick. These
Speaker 1: people are the people out there that are just again
Speaker 1: they like like like like Zeke said, they're not signing
Speaker 1: in a check, so I really can't care less what
Speaker 1: they have to say. Right, Zeke is still Zeke. Let's
Speaker 1: not get it mixed up. He had he had a
Speaker 1: couple of bad games where he fumbled. Last time I checked.
Speaker 1: I think every player and goes through a series of
Speaker 1: bad games. It happens, It happens. Okay, nobody's talking about
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson fell off, right, And Russell Wilson he's had
Speaker 1: he's had some bad games this year. Right, So you're
Speaker 1: you're you're allowed to have bad games. Right. The thing
Speaker 1: that sucks here is your you're a Dallas cowboy. You
Speaker 1: just got a big contract. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, um now you're playing with your third and
Speaker 1: fourth string, you know, office alignment. Oh okay, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's a perfect, perfect concoction for for a great year.
Speaker 1: It's not realistic. People, And like Mick just just talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't matter if it's Tony Pollard, It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's Zeke uh em it unless you
Speaker 1: go get Barry Sanders back there, who who historically played
Speaker 1: with a bad office a line. He's the only person
Speaker 1: that's gonna make some of these plays positive. And that's
Speaker 1: the reality of the matter. If you can't get past
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, what versus there to see? What's what? What?
Speaker 1: What versus there to see? What Tony Pollard is is
Speaker 1: a is a is a third down back right type
Speaker 1: scat back who's who's who. His job is to get
Speaker 1: those third down conversions and to be receiving back. That's
Speaker 1: what he does well. Zeke is a power back whose
Speaker 1: job is to gree in there, empower that thing up
Speaker 1: in there and guess what. Oh, by the way, when
Speaker 1: those guys decided to blitz, I'm gonna make him pay
Speaker 1: for it. That's what Zeke is there for. And you
Speaker 1: paid him based upon the success that he was having
Speaker 1: with that offensive line, not the success he's having without
Speaker 1: the offensive line. So give the man a chance. Get
Speaker 1: off his back. I don't there care who it is
Speaker 1: back there. They're gonna struggle with this officsive line, as
Speaker 1: Mick said, and they're playing with bad pad level and
Speaker 1: you can't you can't get you can't get underneath nobody,
Speaker 1: you can't move anybody out the way. This is why
Speaker 1: I enjoy this scramble right here, getting different perspectives from
Speaker 1: guys on this. Let me switch to the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore is a legend at Boise State University.
Speaker 1: He finished with a fifty and three record as a
Speaker 1: starting player from two thousand and seven to two thousand
Speaker 1: and eleven. Brian Harrison left the Broncos went to Auburn University.
Speaker 1: One of the things he spoke about was he wanted
Speaker 1: Boise State to get out of the Mountain West because
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel like they can make making in the
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff in that league. So he decided, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna leave myself. So he's now
Speaker 1: in the SEC. The job is open for the first
Speaker 1: time since two thousand and one. Kellen Moore, is this
Speaker 1: the best opportunity and the opportunity that he wants to
Speaker 1: go be the head coach to go home at Boise
Speaker 1: State University? Do you think it'll happen? I'll start with you,
Speaker 1: Mickey spagnol, Well, I think it comes down to what
Speaker 1: his priorities are. Does he want to be a college
Speaker 1: coach or does he want to be an NFL coach?
Speaker 1: And as we've seen lately in the NFL, if you're
Speaker 1: an awfully good coordinator, no matter how young you are,
Speaker 1: you just might land a head coaching job. If you
Speaker 1: go to Boise State and you still want to be
Speaker 1: an NFL head coach, then it's a stepping stone job, right,
Speaker 1: And you got to ask yourself do I want to recruit?
Speaker 1: Do I want to have to go out there in
Speaker 1: this day and age and sell myself to some seventeen
Speaker 1: and eighteen year old kid, or do I want to
Speaker 1: sit here in one of the top franchises in the
Speaker 1: National Football League and continue to make my name for
Speaker 1: myself and I know who my orderback is, by the way,
Speaker 1: even keep them healthy. So yeah, I think it comes
Speaker 1: down to him. I mean, didn't he have this opportunity
Speaker 1: to be the offensive coordinator there a year or two
Speaker 1: ago and he decided to stay here? So uh, and
Speaker 1: you know what happens here when Jerry wants to keep
Speaker 1: an assistant coach, you know, he'll tell them, so that
Speaker 1: I think it comes down to what his priorities are,
Speaker 1: because I think absolutely they want him to come back
Speaker 1: and be the head coach. If I'm if I'm calling Moore,
Speaker 1: There's no way I leave the Cowboys to go be
Speaker 1: the coach of at Boise State, even with all of
Speaker 1: his you know, popularity at Boise I just feel like
Speaker 1: he's been knighted by the organization to be you know,
Speaker 1: the heir apparent. Maybe when you know McCarthy's era is over,
Speaker 1: um so to you know, I just don't feel as
Speaker 1: though that would be a move that he would make.
Speaker 1: Right now. There's so many things that he has working
Speaker 1: for him, especially with getting this offense started. In the
Speaker 1: numbers that he's been putting up. You know, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have some success in this league pretty soon. And I
Speaker 1: think with the Cowboys, as soon as we can get
Speaker 1: our defense to where it needs to be and obviously
Speaker 1: not have the substantial injuries that we've had up front,
Speaker 1: and just you know, oh, by the way, Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: going down. Look, I think we would be talking about
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. We wouldn't even be talking about Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: in the Boise stage job if Dak was healthy this
Speaker 1: year and we had, you know, a full arsenal of guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah know, you guys hit on it. It's like the
Speaker 1: it's like Heckma's twelve foot Christmas tree that he has
Speaker 1: back there in the background. You know, if that if
Speaker 1: you have a if you have a real shiny ornament
Speaker 1: at the top, right, it's just sparkling, right, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of glimmering at you. You know, that's Boise State, right,
Speaker 1: and it's up there. It's like I can go up
Speaker 1: there and I can grab that thing, right, but I
Speaker 1: risk everything else below it just tumbling, right, is it?
Speaker 1: Is it really worth going out there and taking that
Speaker 1: opportunity when there's building blocks to being the head coach
Speaker 1: potentially the Dallas Cowboys or any other organization. Here, you
Speaker 1: guys already said it. He's he's groomed, he has been knighted. Um,
Speaker 1: he is one of Jerry's boys. Now, you're a good right,
Speaker 1: You're in the club. You know you're You're like Mickey
Speaker 1: you you're in the club. Man, you ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: You know both the floor, You're bolted to the floor, man,
Speaker 1: three quarter inch. So he's you know, he's gone. He's
Speaker 1: in a perfect position right now. Continue to build, continue
Speaker 1: to develop. Um, I personally don't think that he would
Speaker 1: even be ready for that for that position. Here's too much.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of management that comes with being the
Speaker 1: head coach of a whole collegiate program. Um. So no,
Speaker 1: he'll be here, and you guys, you guys need to understand.
Speaker 1: I've moved around so much at the Star and here
Speaker 1: around at the Ranch, and every move I made it
Speaker 1: was closer to the door. Okay, all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: push up. Go ahead, let me push back on Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore here. Bear Bryant once said, when Mama calls you go,
Speaker 1: and Bear Bryant loved it at Texas A and m
Speaker 1: and took Let's money to go back to Alabama as
Speaker 1: it was home. And I think if the people of
Speaker 1: Boise Stay lean on him and say Kellen, we really
Speaker 1: want you here, I think he goes because it's home
Speaker 1: and it's your program. It's about you. Look, and I
Speaker 1: think Mickey, you can back this up because you've covered
Speaker 1: this and up when you're here with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Even if you're the head coach, you know who's really
Speaker 1: the star. You know who the big You know who
Speaker 1: the big guy is is Jared. We need to go
Speaker 1: to Boise Stay. You're the star, you're the head coach.
Speaker 1: It's your program. I think Kelly Moore's plays that he
Speaker 1: calls here, I think these plays would be excellent at
Speaker 1: the collegiate level. And I'll also follow this up with
Speaker 1: this because I've said it on the show with Barry
Speaker 1: and Danny. I think Mike McCarthy misses calling plays that
Speaker 1: he likes calling plays. And if Kellen Moore's gone. That
Speaker 1: guy gets that big old play sheet back. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy every week has this huge play sheet. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why do you need that big old play sheet if
Speaker 1: you're not calling old plays? This man wants to calls
Speaker 1: and plays. So I think that Kelly Moore goes this thing,
Speaker 1: puts Mike McCarthy where he wants to be. And I
Speaker 1: go back to when Wade Phillips, who is the head
Speaker 1: coach here, and he have Bryan Stewarts defensive coordinator, and
Speaker 1: they moved Stewart out and Jerry said, hey, wait, I
Speaker 1: want you here to call plays because this is what
Speaker 1: you do best. And I think that Mike McCarthy calling
Speaker 1: plays with the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty one, would
Speaker 1: kellamore be in the head coach of Poyson State. Maybe
Speaker 1: a win win. I don't know about your example there
Speaker 1: newly with Brian Stewart, because that was Wade's biggest mistake.
Speaker 1: The reason he gets head coaching jobs is because he's
Speaker 1: a good defensive coordinator. And why would you hand off
Speaker 1: what's your best at to somebody else that wasn't very
Speaker 1: good at it? Right? And I used to have the
Speaker 1: same opinion of Jason Garrett. You got the job because
Speaker 1: you were an offensive coordinator, and then a year or
Speaker 1: two after you got the job, you handed it off
Speaker 1: to somebody else, right, and then in the end you
Speaker 1: didn't see eye to eye with that guy very well.
Speaker 1: So to me, the reason you get a head coaching
Speaker 1: job is because you did something well as a core coordinator,
Speaker 1: and then you give up what you did well and
Speaker 1: you're going to depend on somebody else. I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: I'd be afraid of that. And I think Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 1: very comfortable because it was his idea to bring or
Speaker 1: to keep Kellen Moore here. And if you remember the
Speaker 1: first press conference he said, he said that if I
Speaker 1: hadn't gotten this job, I had my eye on Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore to bring him along wherever I went as my
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. So he may have that play sheet, and
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett had the play sheet too, and it's the
Speaker 1: head coach's prerogative that if he doesn't like the play call,
Speaker 1: it's like, ah, wait a minute, here, let me change that.
Speaker 1: Let's think about doing this. So and the other thing
Speaker 1: I think you need to understand with the offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and Isaiah helped me out here, But he doesn't sit
Speaker 1: there with a roller decks during the game and say,
Speaker 1: let me call this. They've got this planned out as
Speaker 1: a staff going in when we're in this situation. Here's
Speaker 1: what we want to do. You can pick these three
Speaker 1: plays in this particular situation. So I think Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: is very comfortable with the guy that has been very
Speaker 1: creative trying to figure out how does he compensate for
Speaker 1: an offensive line that had can't hold down the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And that's why you see all these what
Speaker 1: Warren Powers used to say when he was the head
Speaker 1: coach at Missouri, these gingerbread plays, all the little fancy
Speaker 1: things he's trying to do to get the ball out
Speaker 1: on the perimeter because they can't run between the tackles.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, you know, let's hear it. Let's hear it.
Speaker 1: Let's hear the point. No, I believe you break up
Speaker 1: a good point, nui about Mike McCarthy and his play
Speaker 1: calling and what we've what we've been historically used to
Speaker 1: seeing from coach Mike McCarthy, and people don't give any
Speaker 1: credit anymore to the fact that Mike McCarthy was doing
Speaker 1: video conferences with his offense and trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: get these guys acclimated with his system of what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do. It only made sense that he stayed
Speaker 1: with what Kelly Moore had been doing but previous previously,
Speaker 1: not don't rock the boat or change anything too much.
Speaker 1: But look, I just feel like this offseason, both of
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna have to get on the same page,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna come down to the health of this
Speaker 1: team and being able to go forward with it, but
Speaker 1: offensively and just the play calling part of it. I
Speaker 1: don't believe that Mike McCarthy has given up as much
Speaker 1: of it as we think he has. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think all of its pretty much speculation obviously, because we're
Speaker 1: not in those meetings and we don't understand who's really
Speaker 1: in control. We know, we know what Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: what his history has shown. But you know, to Mickey's point,
Speaker 1: he did, you know, he did give give up his
Speaker 1: responsibilities to Kelly Moore. And my only issue with Kelly
Speaker 1: Moore has been just that make all the glitz and
Speaker 1: glamor that he did up until last week. Last week,
Speaker 1: those that glitz and glamor was misdirection, it was it
Speaker 1: was it was just literally to throw off the you know,
Speaker 1: it's smoking it was just smoking guns. You know, it
Speaker 1: was just to throw off the other team. But it
Speaker 1: was still within the confines of your offense. And that's
Speaker 1: the stuff that works. That's the stuff that our defense
Speaker 1: has had issues with. In terms of guys running across motions.
Speaker 1: You're setting up plays series in advance, games in advance, right,
Speaker 1: giving them these looks in preparation for it working this
Speaker 1: one time. For those that don't know, you know, this
Speaker 1: stuff is mapped out. You know, this stuff is mapped
Speaker 1: out far in advance. You know the players that they're
Speaker 1: gonna run you know this this weekend. They set those
Speaker 1: plays up two or three games ago. So this is
Speaker 1: stuff that they work on. These play calls, these play
Speaker 1: sheets that you guys are talking about. You know, these
Speaker 1: are three, four or five hundred plays deep sometimes and
Speaker 1: you know we used to sit through and pick these
Speaker 1: things apart play by play, series by series. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so down to the analytics where it'd be third
Speaker 1: and five and literally you're walking the huddle and be like, okay,
Speaker 1: you remember when when we come out on this personnel.
Speaker 1: They're thirty seven percent of the time they're blitzing like
Speaker 1: these are the numbers that are popping up in your
Speaker 1: head because this is the stuff that you that you
Speaker 1: literally go over every single day, so they know exactly
Speaker 1: what the doing. My only issue with Mike McCarthy this
Speaker 1: year has been what he's allowed to come across across
Speaker 1: that microphone, you know, to Mickey's point, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I've said it on Talking Calboys before when I was
Speaker 1: with the Patriots and I was, you know, and I
Speaker 1: was a little you know, clipboard clipboard quarterback when I
Speaker 1: first got there. You know, I would hear player certain
Speaker 1: play calls come across from Billy O'Brien and Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: would just say, no, run it, and that was it.
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, all right, we're running it, and that
Speaker 1: was it, you know. So he has that he has
Speaker 1: that authority. And think about this, guys, and this is
Speaker 1: no coincidence. The side of the ball that they kept
Speaker 1: continuity with from last year has been more productive than
Speaker 1: the side of the ball that they tried to come
Speaker 1: in and reinvent the wheel with, right, So there's something
Speaker 1: to be said for continuity, and let's not forget what
Speaker 1: this offense was due and when Dak Prescott was in
Speaker 1: there and before Ben Denucci and Karrot Gilbert has you
Speaker 1: wagon throwing the quarterback right, his name is Wagon. Let's
Speaker 1: take a break here. Let's take our final break on
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Speaker 1: I'm knew he Scruggs joined by Miki Spagnol Isaiah, stand
Speaker 1: back at Heckmharrison here getting you're ready for Cowboys Eagles
Speaker 1: final Cowboys home game with you. It will be at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium. It's Christmas Eve. The Cowboys are holding
Speaker 1: practice right now as we speak indoors now Christmas Day.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has decided that the Cowboys will not practice.
Speaker 1: He's giving the players that day for themselves. He says
Speaker 1: they should be at home with their families. Isaiah, take
Speaker 1: me back to your time with Bill Belletch. Check how
Speaker 1: did he work things, And what did he think about
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy giving the Cowboys Christmas day off. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know about days off. Man. I
Speaker 1: think we I think I think we came in. I
Speaker 1: think we came in a little later. If if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, I think we came in late bid day. Uh,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, yeah, I think that's what it was.
Speaker 1: For my time. I don't remember ever having a day
Speaker 1: off for Christmas. But that's awesome that he feels confident
Speaker 1: that those guys are prepared to do that. I'm it's
Speaker 1: a it's a fine line because the fact that the
Speaker 1: matter is playoffs are still on the custom that's the reality.
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't probably sound good or even sound realistic,
Speaker 1: but um, that's the reality. So days off this close
Speaker 1: to that run, I don't know. I would. I would
Speaker 1: probably just have those guys coming in at twelve o'clock
Speaker 1: so that they can wake up and enjoy the morning
Speaker 1: with their families. You know what, let me bring some
Speaker 1: perspective to that day off on Friday. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy changed the practice routine for the Cowboys, where
Speaker 1: normally Friday was the last day of practice Saturday was
Speaker 1: a walkthrough. Well, now he gives them the walkthrough on
Speaker 1: Friday and they practice on Saturday, so that Friday happens
Speaker 1: to be Christmas. Basically the walkthrough, they'll double up on Saturday,
Speaker 1: which is as Isaiah knows, it's like a meeting on
Speaker 1: the field. Everybody runs out, Okay, second kickoff team, go
Speaker 1: out there. It's not really a practice practice. So basically
Speaker 1: they're getting out of meetings. They'll probably go a little
Speaker 1: bit longer today. And then he said today in his
Speaker 1: conference call that they'll have what he calls mock game
Speaker 1: is the walkthrough. They'll have that. They'll have two things
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and it's a home game, so now you
Speaker 1: don't have to traut revel. But Isaiah's right whether the
Speaker 1: former coaches here, when when Thanks getting, i mean Christmas
Speaker 1: got in the way of practice, it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: everybody come in at two o'clock. I know, that's kind
Speaker 1: of what Jason Garrett used to do. But then Saturday,
Speaker 1: basically you came in ten o'clock. By eleven, you had
Speaker 1: the day to yourself. You were done. So he just
Speaker 1: taken the walkthrough, move it to Saturday and give him
Speaker 1: Friday off, so they're missing a couple of meetings. They'll
Speaker 1: double up today and double up on Saturday. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's you know, acting like Santa Claus
Speaker 1: here's a Christmas President. Oh, And I believe that Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy knows the pulse of this team and everything that
Speaker 1: these guys have been through health wise, and if if
Speaker 1: Friday was just gonna be a walkthrough, and they've made
Speaker 1: up for that by doubling down on more things through
Speaker 1: this week than you know, Look, kudos to those guys
Speaker 1: being able to get Christmas Day off, Like you said, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: not a lot of teams will do that. You'll still
Speaker 1: have to come in later. Doesn't matter if it's all
Speaker 1: walk through or what have you. But I just trust
Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy knows and has his hand on the
Speaker 1: pulse of this team and knows what's gonna work best
Speaker 1: for those guys. Maybe that's something that galvinizes them because
Speaker 1: they realized that he trusts them with the whole preparation process.
Speaker 1: You know. The other thing he's done these last last
Speaker 1: week and this week as he shortened the practice, it's
Speaker 1: kind of the last three games. He said He's normally
Speaker 1: done that when he was at Green Bay, just to
Speaker 1: get the guys off their legs and let him recuperate
Speaker 1: a little bit. More so, he's he's taken about twenty
Speaker 1: minutes off the Monday, Wednesday, Friday or Saturday practice just
Speaker 1: to shorten things up, to try to keep his guys
Speaker 1: as fresh as possible going forward, because the last thing
Speaker 1: you do is leave your game on the field on
Speaker 1: Friday and then Saturday Sunday you're worn out, all right.
Speaker 1: Prediction time here, Cowboys are a two and a half
Speaker 1: point dog to the Philadelphia Eagles. The Cowboys have to
Speaker 1: win this game. They lose this game, they're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to win the East and make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So heck, I'm starting with you. I kind of have
Speaker 1: a feeling I know where you're going, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start with you. Man. It look no, it's not I'm
Speaker 1: everybody knows me no that There's no way that I
Speaker 1: would ever pick the Philadelphia those periods. Correct, I'm incapable
Speaker 1: of doing that. I just can't. And I just feel
Speaker 1: like in a must win game situation for these guys
Speaker 1: and everything that they've been through all year with the media,
Speaker 1: dogs and them fans everybody else. This is a game
Speaker 1: that they know that they have to show up for
Speaker 1: here they T and T Stadium. So I'm taking the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in seventeen to ten was my prediction. Wow, you
Speaker 1: got Mike Nolan holding somebody to ten points. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I do okay, okay, okay, all right, Isaac, what you got? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not that I'm gonna go with Now. I'm going
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys on this one. I think that they
Speaker 1: find a way. I think that they have enough fight.
Speaker 1: They've been through enough this year, They've overcome enough of
Speaker 1: adversity that they're gonna realize and acknowledge the fact that, hey, shoot,
Speaker 1: if we take care of business today in Washington loses,
Speaker 1: it's a week seventeen showdown, right, So it's a week's
Speaker 1: show that we actually have a real chance at this.
Speaker 1: And I think they realized that. I think that they're
Speaker 1: going to refuse to allow Philly to come in here
Speaker 1: and smack them upside to hey like other teams have.
Speaker 1: So I think the Dallas wins twenty four seventeen, twenty
Speaker 1: four seventeen, The Voice of Reason, Mickey Spagnola. So I
Speaker 1: see there's an Everson Walls and the Nate Newton on
Speaker 1: every team. I never you get podcasts right, never pick
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. Right. Well, guess what. I finally am
Speaker 1: eligible to pick them to win because I think after
Speaker 1: they lost to I think it was Baltimore. Maybe I
Speaker 1: can't remember what the loss was, but I said, I
Speaker 1: will not pick them to win again until they win
Speaker 1: too straight. And I was running out of games, right,
Speaker 1: and now they won two straight, so I picked in
Speaker 1: blues all these games that they've won here in the
Speaker 1: last five five games, but they're they're two point underdogs.
Speaker 1: They were four point underdogs to San Francisco, and I
Speaker 1: thought this was funny. All the guys covering the team
Speaker 1: in San Francisco area picked the Cowboys to win, and
Speaker 1: all the people here in Dallas picked San Francisco to win, right,
Speaker 1: and nobody got Only the San Francisco people got it
Speaker 1: right right. They knew their team. So now that I
Speaker 1: got the opportunity to pick them to win, because I
Speaker 1: thought they would win last week, but I couldn't pick them.
Speaker 1: I'm going twenty four, twenty three. I just think that
Speaker 1: they will have just enough offense to be able to
Speaker 1: beat Philadelphia and just enough defense to squeak by and
Speaker 1: win this game against a rookie quarterback who now people
Speaker 1: know a little bit more about what he's all about
Speaker 1: on the field. You've got two starts to study. Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to keep my word what I
Speaker 1: said yesterday on the playoff lads, which was a twenty
Speaker 1: seven twenty one Philadelphia. When this is not Nick Mullins,
Speaker 1: this is not Brandon Allen and Mickey you already alluded
Speaker 1: to it. They gave up one hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, and you knew what they wanted to do.
Speaker 1: And this is when you saw Mostard go down and
Speaker 1: then Wilson came in. He went down, and they were
Speaker 1: still out here running, bringing Tevin Coleman in. I've got
Speaker 1: I got to see this team stop the run. That's
Speaker 1: my biggest concern here. I'm just I just don't trust
Speaker 1: mister Nolan and then not having Woods, not having um
Speaker 1: Lake vander esh. I think these are gonna be some
Speaker 1: issues for the Cowboys, but we shall see. We shall see.
Speaker 1: It's fifteen minutes afterward. I don't want to push our producer,
Speaker 1: Chris Beam on Christmas Eve, he's got things to do,
Speaker 1: so Mickey Isaiah, Hey, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 1: on here. It was a lot of fun to be
Speaker 1: on the players. So I talked to my hotels dot
Speaker 1: com with you guys, have a blessed and great Marry Christmas,
Speaker 1: and we do not have any shows tomorrow. Enjoy your
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve and we'll enjoy Cowboy football on Sunday and
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