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Speaker 1: are you guys doing. I'll tell you what I'm excited

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Speaker 1: But I always love cross and pass with Nate on

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Speaker 1: these thoughts. It's always nice to get kind of a

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Speaker 1: be a fun This ought be a fun show today.

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Speaker 1: I'm loving it. That's rock and roll. I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: I wanted to put a pause on the whole oh

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Speaker 1: I did want to get into the whole wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I've been seeing a lot of questions on Cowboys Break

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, people twittering and asking why is there not

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Speaker 1: much excitement about James Washington returning and coming back to

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Speaker 1: Do you need this? Do you need that? He's like, no, no,

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Speaker 1: going to happen with Gallop, they knew what Gallup situation

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Speaker 1: but yeah, there's that kind of that unknown about James

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428
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Speaker 1: He's a good job with his ball skills too. He

429
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Speaker 1: gets in position. He's had interceptions and stuff as well.

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Speaker 1: So number five jail and Petrie's a guy you have

431
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Speaker 1: to kind of watch out for. But it's a team

432
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Speaker 1: that doesn't have a whole lot of talent on it. Again,

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Speaker 1: their most talented player, I think is Stanley and he's hurt.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of why they're the record there are.

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Speaker 1: They're one ten and one, and they give up a

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Speaker 1: lot of yards. They get put in some terrible situations

437
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Speaker 1: because their offense isn't very good either. But you know,

438
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have, you know, be very mindful of Kirksey

439
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Speaker 1: and be very mind full of Jalen Petrie. I think

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Speaker 1: those are the two best players on their defensive side

441
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Speaker 1: of the ball. Yeah, and looking at their practice report

442
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Speaker 1: from yesterday, they have quite a lot of guys on

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Speaker 1: defense that we're out and did not practice because of

444
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Speaker 1: an injury, and you got guys mostly on the defensive

445
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Speaker 1: line of the ball. When you look at this matchup, Nate,

446
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Speaker 1: what would be an area that you could say okay?

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Speaker 1: And it's tough to find one, I think, because I

448
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Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are in the upper hand here, But

449
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Speaker 1: what would be an area if you had to pick

450
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Speaker 1: something where the Cowboys could possibly struggle in this game.

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Speaker 1: He uses got eight sacks and I'll be weary of him.

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Speaker 1: I mean if we don't get off to a good

453
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Speaker 1: run game and give him a chance to rush the

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Speaker 1: pass or you know, and I think what he's over

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Speaker 1: right right tackle. Yeah, so that is that is always

456
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Speaker 1: a matchup for me because I like fire right tackle

457
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Speaker 1: to have more run responsibilities than pass blotch. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: uh that Desmond king I mean when I turned the

459
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Speaker 1: You know the other guys that you talk about, they

461
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Speaker 1: are steady guys. They do they do their job. But

462
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Speaker 1: I try to tell people expecting around here. You can

463
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Speaker 1: tell when you offense and it ain't doing very well

464
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Speaker 1: because you'll see more defensive guys during the week. Beat

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Speaker 1: up in out of practice. Yeah. Yeah, the Cowboys, it's

466
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Speaker 1: a and Nate makes great points there. I mean that

467
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Speaker 1: See's absolutely right about that. The Cowboys have got to

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Speaker 1: find a way when we all know this, when the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are balanced, when they're balanced with their scheme and

470
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Speaker 1: they're balanced with when Zeke has fifteen carries and Pollard

471
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Speaker 1: has eighteen carries or whatever, how are the balances with that.

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Speaker 1: It just kind of it helps the quarterbacks so much.

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Speaker 1: I just don't I think that they I think that

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Speaker 1: Dallas is all the all the weapons. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: they take away if they take away Lamb in this game,

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Speaker 1: Gallops clearly can have a better game, right, you know,

478
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Speaker 1: the tight ends can have I mean, you've got ways

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Speaker 1: of pu a lot of pressure on these Texans. And

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Speaker 1: He's right about Jerry Hughes. You got to find a

481
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Speaker 1: way to block Jerry Hughes where you might keep a

482
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Speaker 1: tight end in. You might you know, running the football

483
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Speaker 1: at these guys it you know, and Nate will tell

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Speaker 1: you about this too. You lean on guys, You lean

485
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Speaker 1: on guys. You lean on guys running the ball, and

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Speaker 1: they don't want to rush the passer at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day because you've been leaning on them the

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Speaker 1: whole game. I kind of feel like that's what you

489
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Speaker 1: need to do with these guys here. I think you

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Speaker 1: just need But they're going to try and angle and

491
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Speaker 1: stunt and be on the move so big guys like

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Speaker 1: Nate can't get their hands on them. That's the whole

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Speaker 1: idea of playing a slant front because you just don't

494
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Speaker 1: want somebody to go and have to block you. I mean,

495
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Speaker 1: you want to get away from their blocks and hopefully

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Speaker 1: you guess right into tendencies of all right, the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: But the Cowboys have done a really good job when

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Speaker 1: they run the football is that it'll start to one

499
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Speaker 1: side and then be honest and Martin and McGovern they'll

500
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Speaker 1: they'll find a way to push everybody to one side

501
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Speaker 1: and then the ball cuts behind in the center and

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Speaker 1: then you got the back side cutoffs and stuff like that,

503
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Speaker 1: and that puts a lot of pressure on a team.

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Speaker 1: When they're slanting. You just take them where they want

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Speaker 1: to go and then take the ball behind where they're going.

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Speaker 1: This is the amazing thing I like about the young

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. It's always when you run in and said,

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Speaker 1: we run in right, we run in right. There's the

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Speaker 1: point of attack, and then there's the first cutback. There

510
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Speaker 1: are not many backs can get to that third one

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Speaker 1: get in the office line in a bad situation. Tony Pollard, Brian,

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Speaker 1: who would else be that guy that could get to

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Speaker 1: that third cut that second cutback lane that is dangerous

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Speaker 1: and that's where Tony Pollard is so sweet at he

515
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Speaker 1: can get point of attack. He hit it ninety going north,

516
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Speaker 1: he can make that cut and get six yards. But

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Speaker 1: he can get backdoor and take it home. Yeah, a

518
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Speaker 1: lot of guys can't do that. Yeah, they're the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Have played some really good running teams. Yes, and you

520
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Speaker 1: know that's the you know, and you look at the man.

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Speaker 1: They've got a guy we talked about, you know, we

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Speaker 1: the running back from the you know, from the Texans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I say, Barkley Pierce, everybody that you've seen,

525
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Speaker 1: it's that press, look, press again, look back and then

526
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Speaker 1: get it all the way back. That's you know, I

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Speaker 1: think the guy at Minnesota, same kind of running style

528
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Speaker 1: that you know that when you even though the Vikings

529
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Speaker 1: didn't even try and run the ball uh that much.

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Speaker 1: I just there's there's these backs that you do play.

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Speaker 1: But Nate's right about Pollard. His ability. He makes these

532
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Speaker 1: offensive linemens so much better because you don't have to

533
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Speaker 1: hold your block forever. You know, there's some backs you

534
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Speaker 1: have to hold. And then Nate was talking about you're

535
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Speaker 1: getting in trouble because you're holding it. Now you're at

536
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Speaker 1: a position, Now you're grabbing. Now you're getting call for

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Speaker 1: a flat. With Pollard, the ball is usually pass that

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Speaker 1: point to where you're starting to hold. Yeah, you know,

539
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Speaker 1: And and that's the that's the really good thing about it.

540
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Speaker 1: And they should be able to run the ball on

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Speaker 1: these guys, just because I think that Dallas will will

542
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Speaker 1: guess right on him a couple of times in him

543
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Speaker 1: on some big play. So between the topic of Tony

544
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Speaker 1: Pollar and Zekiel Elliot, where do you stand both both?

545
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Speaker 1: I don't want to insult all the fantasy football players,

546
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Speaker 1: but I don't do that sport. I do team sport.

547
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: I do true NFL football. Yeah, and it's a team.

548
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Speaker 1: And for Zeke to be willing to share that and

549
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: not great and cause problems over that because all that

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Speaker 1: That's the thing about it is. I kind of look

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Speaker 1: at him as and Bobby Belt, who I work with

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555
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Speaker 1: so you know the thing about I look at him

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Speaker 1: as one back. Twenty seven carries one hundred and sixty

557
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: one yards three touchdowns. Yeah, that's how I look at him.

558
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Speaker 1: I look at because I think the Cowboys. One of

559
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Speaker 1: the reasons why the Cowboys are having offensive success and

560
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: putting up a lot of points. It's helping the quarterback,

561
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Speaker 1: for sure, but it's putting such a burden on the

562
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Speaker 1: defense as to have to you know, there's second and eight,

563
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Speaker 1: second and nine, and they're running the ball for twelve yards,

564
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Speaker 1: thirteen yards, and you're like, and it's it's you know it.

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Speaker 1: There's only been one team that I felt like really

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Speaker 1: shut them down from running the football, and that was

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Speaker 1: the Commanders. But if you look at the Commanders, They've

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Speaker 1: They've made everybody, everybody that we talk about these teams

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Speaker 1: potentially in the playoffs forty nine Ers, Commanders, they do

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Speaker 1: not let you run the football, and that's that's going

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Speaker 1: to be a real test. I am. I am looking

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Speaker 1: forward to Tyrn Smith being back, and I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing if that Commander's game at the end of

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Speaker 1: the year there in landover Maryland is going to be

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Speaker 1: a game where the Cowboys have to win. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the Commanders are going to have to win to get

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Speaker 1: in so but I'm really looking forward to seeing if

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Speaker 1: Dallas can get back to before the playoffs running the

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Speaker 1: When it comes to not letting you run the ball Tampa,

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Speaker 1: I've seen team teams have some success of late against Tampa.

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Speaker 1: Dallas could have ran the ball more against Tampa in

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Speaker 1: back to the third segment of the Break. So we

643
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: were talking about the running game for the Cowboys, and

644
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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you guys if you think the

645
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys should start utilizing Dak Prescott in the running game.

646
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: They haven't really haven't had the necessity to do so,

647
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: but it's just something that you would like to see

648
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more sprinkled in the game for you know,

649
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: putting it out there on film and just preparing for

650
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: the things that you might need to use heading into

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Speaker 1: the playoffs and when you need to kind of bring

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00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: out more weapons on offense. I've always believed this right here,

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00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: you use every tool that God has given you now,

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00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: but I do believe this. His instincts used to be

655
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: so good his first three or four years, so he

656
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: knew how to take off and getting those extra three yards,

657
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: got injured, went through a little shady time, that a

658
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: little cloudy time, and he didn't run. But now it

659
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: seems like he's getting back to just naturally. Okay, let

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00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: me take off and get this first, so I can

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Speaker 1: continue this drive. That a suffice for me until we

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Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. Then if we can get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, then make that a part of your usenal,

664
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Speaker 1: because no one is no one is going to be

665
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: ready for it. Not for that at least, I don't think. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the new thing in the NFL is the teams that

667
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: have a running quarterback. That's that's the devastating way of

668
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: playing football now. And it sure does. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and I think with Kellen Moore, I think there was

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00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: a time when Dak was coming back from injury that

671
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: the owner, general manager, nobody wanted Dad to run the

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00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: ball at all, to like, listen, just take fall on

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00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: the ground and take a sack, whatever you have to do.

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Speaker 1: But now you're starting to see them incorporate some more plays,

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00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: the option play, the read option stuff that they're gonna

676
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: Dak is crafty enough and a good ball handler too,

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00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: the fake sell it and then run. There's several times

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Speaker 1: where I've kind of felt like on these third and

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00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: one plays or fourth and one, Dak could pull it

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00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: and just dive forward for a first down, that kind

681
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: of thing. But yeah, incorporating the running quarterback is part

682
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Speaker 1: of your attack. Put so much pressure on the defense

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Speaker 1: to have to deal with that. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, we're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 1: playing the Eagles and and and that's gonna be at

686
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Speaker 1: nauseum where we're like, well, Hurts can run. You know,

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Speaker 1: well it might be a little bit in Jacksonville next week.

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Speaker 1: We'll see with you know, with Trevor Lawrence. You know,

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Speaker 1: a guy that can has a little bit, probably doesn't

690
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: want to run, but can run. But if you have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that can play like that, and that makes

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Speaker 1: a big, big, big difference on your on your team.

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Speaker 1: And I'm I'm glad we're not players because we're allowed

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Speaker 1: to jump ahead and that against against the Eagles team,

695
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: you need three yards. Go get those three yards because

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Speaker 1: if they get the ball, you don't know when you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get it back. And that's why I've been fighting

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00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: so hard on every show that I go on, time

699
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: of possession, time possession, because if you learn how to

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00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: do it's not easy to go twelve thirteen plays, but

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00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: if you can learn how to play perfect football, with

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00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: coach Johnson just called we can play perfect football. Ten

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00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: or more plays down the field. That's time of possession

704
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: that gives that beast of a defensive chance when they

705
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: get out there, even if you don't score, they are

706
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: so fresh in the second half it could be ugly. Yeah,

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00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: that's the thing about it is the playing perfect football here.

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00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Like the Cowboys of the nineties that used to compete

709
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: against us when I was in Green Bay played perfect

710
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: football and they never got penalties. This team, this team

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00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: fights even though last even though last week was a

712
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: good penalty game for him, considering who the official was.

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Speaker 1: And you know that that's that's that's something that you

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Speaker 1: know you have to kind of always let me quick

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Speaker 1: is it really not got to depending on who the

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Speaker 1: official is. Oh, I think, I think, I think it.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I know this when when

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Speaker 1: when you say the Cowboys are going to get better

719
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: on penalties, I say, no, they're not. They're not going

720
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Speaker 1: to get better because what happens is you can be

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Speaker 1: better and more efficient. I saw it the other day,

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Speaker 1: two days, it's two games ago. I saw Zack Martin

723
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Speaker 1: penn a defensive lineman, pancake him on his back and

724
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: got called for offensive holding. Saw I mean, just perfect

725
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: pancake block, helmet sticker, all that stuff you want to

726
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: give for an award. And I saw an official call

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00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: holding penalty and I said, Okay, is that Zack Martin's

728
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: fault or is that the official fault for missing a thing?

729
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: And I think you have these officials that do I

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00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: think they missed two to three calls a game. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So you can go from being you can go from

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Speaker 1: being having say four penalties for legitimate penalties or you know,

733
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Speaker 1: you know, five legitimate penalties. Fine, but then you add

734
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: on three more that they just kicked onto it because

735
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: they missed the call. It does. It does come down

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Speaker 1: to these officials, It really does. And Carl Scheffer's and

737
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: his crew last week was one of the most penalized

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Speaker 1: crews in the league. And the fact that you survived

739
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: that game only given up I think three penalties. Two

740
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: of them were you know, kind of you know, penalties

741
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Speaker 1: that are easy to call. But that's it does. It

742
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: comes down. It really does come down to these guys

743
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: and how they call and guys and gals and how

744
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: they call these games. There's there has I think there

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00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: is a better way, and there's money to do so,

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Speaker 1: so I just don't understand why it hasn't happened where

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Speaker 1: all of these calls are reviewed. Yeah, there's a quick

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00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: way to do. It is not something that it's going

749
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: to delay the game so long either. Well that's the

750
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: thing about it is, though TV dictates so much, TV

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Speaker 1: does not. Even though the college game is kind of

752
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's romantic and you watch the rivalries,

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00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: those college football games are on for five hours, some

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00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: of them, and you know, and that and the NFL

755
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: does not. The NFL wants their games to start at

756
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: noon in by three and start the next games and

757
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: then get them done by six and have that night

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Speaker 1: game and then that's a wrap to the day. That's

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Speaker 1: what they want. They do not want these games going

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Speaker 1: five hours. They just don't. They It's proven that the advertising,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's great for advertise, I'm sure, but

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Speaker 1: the NFL, it's not good for TV schedules, is what.

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Speaker 1: Because you cook at other programs. For years on CBS,

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Speaker 1: sixty minutes always came after the NFL game, you know,

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Speaker 1: sixty minutes, and sixty minutes is one of the most

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Speaker 1: popular shows ever in television history. And any time that

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00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: that fell, football bleeds into sixty minutes. That's bad for CBS. Yes,

768
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: they're like, wait a minute, we that's our that's one

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Speaker 1: of our most popular shows for the last forty years.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can't have it bleeding into our most

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Speaker 1: popular show. Yes, even though football is popular on TV,

772
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Speaker 1: they will tell you stop that thing at six o'clock

773
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Speaker 1: on all Actually, they want to be off there at

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Speaker 1: five fifty five. Commercials six o'clock are now yeah, there

775
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: are now, all right. Well, aside from penalty, there are

776
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: other aspects of the game that the Cowboys are struggling

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00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: with and or they should improve, I should say, and

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00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: we talked about it before the you hope we talked

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Speaker 1: about it before the show, and you brought it up, Nate.

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Speaker 1: Is the slow starts, which we've been discussing on this guys.

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Speaker 1: You hate the slow start, absolutely hate it. But another

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Speaker 1: point that you brought up, Nate, was the interceptions. Right now,

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00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: it hasn't necessarily killed the Cowboys. Yeah, but that's all

784
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: it could take for a game to really turn sideways Philadelphia. Yes,

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00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 1: So thoughts on these two aspects of the game, because

786
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: if you look at everything else, it seems that the

787
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: Cowboys are consistently starting to improve and get better in general.

788
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: But these are two things that are still happening that

789
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be consistent in not doing so and

790
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: just kind of improving. So what are your kind of

791
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: thoughts on these two one throwing interceptions and slow starts.

792
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: You know, I look at winning and the bottom line,

793
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: they're ninety three. I love that. I get to brag

794
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm the number three biggest homie besides mister Jones and

795
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: Mike Irving. I'm number three. You know you can't beat

796
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: me bragging. But I have to watch the game and

797
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I understand the game, and I know that what we

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00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: should going for is the Eagles being able to go

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Speaker 1: through the forty nine ers being able to run over

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Speaker 1: Minnesota again. So if you're doing that, a slow starter

801
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: is not gonna help you. You're going on the road.

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00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't see the Eagles losing. I hope they do,

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00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: but I don't you going on the road, So start slow.

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Speaker 1: In a playoff game where every play counts, even the

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00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: interception in the first quarter can count, you cannot have

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Speaker 1: that you had five interceptions in six games, or either

807
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: vice versus six interceptions in five games. You cannot have

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00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: that you should be warming up on these teams like this,

809
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: getting better, enhancing who you are, because Philadelphia is it.

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Speaker 1: Just think the forty nine Ers lost two quarterbacks, the

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Speaker 1: young stud that they thought was great and the guy

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Speaker 1: that they know who is good in Garoppolo. It's not great,

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00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: and they still saying these this is a top three

814
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: NFC team because of their defense and they don't make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying about a slow start. At

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00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: least be even or leaving in the first half. Don't

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00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: be down in behind. Improving that. Back in the day,

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00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson used, just take us out there and we

819
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: have four days of hard practice. Nowadays you have to

820
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: have veteran leaders that's not going to stand for the

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Speaker 1: foolishness that they themselves. Starting with Dak is gonna try

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Speaker 1: to be not perfect, but let it flow, but understand

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Speaker 1: what does it mean in the big picture. Quarterbacks are

824
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: allowed to think big picture? Why they focus on the

825
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: small things. Wide receivers are like that Lyneman. We just

826
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: gotta deal with those beasts in front of us, but

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Speaker 1: everybody else can deal with the This dude is not

828
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: good enough. It's only two guys we talked about in

829
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: one of them is not playing instingly, he may not play.

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Speaker 1: So we got Desmond Kean find a way just beat

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Speaker 1: one of these dudes. Yeah, I think that you're in

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00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: a situation too where and Nate's absolutely right. It seems

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00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: like though that every time they're throwing these interceptions, they're

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00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: they're moving the ball and they're driving to score points. Yes,

835
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you can't every possession that ends, and points,

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00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: of course is a good one field goals, you know, touchdowns,

837
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: points or points or how you win these games. I'm

838
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: not telling you something you already don't know. But you

839
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: can't throw opportunities away. If you get eleven of them

840
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: in a playoff game, you if you throw one away

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Speaker 1: that you were going to score a touchdown and maybe

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00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: make it, maybe change the direction of the trajectory of

843
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: the game. That's a big, big, big play. And they're

844
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: getting away with it right now. They're getting away with it.

845
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: And but it's something you know. And I don't want

846
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: to take away Dak's aggressiveness. I sure don't, but I also,

847
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: like I say, be mindful of the situation you're in.

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00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: When you do get in the playoffs, you're doing and

849
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: you're thinking about, Okay, I cannot turn the ball over here.

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Speaker 1: I have got to find a way to get Brett

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Speaker 1: You know, that's that needs to be the mission every

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Speaker 1: time the offense takes the ball, get Brett Maher on

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Speaker 1: the field at worst. You know, that needs to be

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Speaker 1: you know, and I think with it comes down with

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Speaker 1: the line. You know, the protection. You know, you can't

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Speaker 1: throw an interception, Dak Prescott, but I kind of understand

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Speaker 1: you're throwing an interception if Tyler Smith is sitting in

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Speaker 1: your lap after Thibodeau is driven you into him and

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Speaker 1: he can't follow through, and now the ball is going

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Speaker 1: to the sideline and Gallup is not even near the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's just a bad you know, it's a bad situation.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of factors that happen. The decision

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Speaker 1: by the play caller, the decision by the quarterback, the

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Speaker 1: blockers and the routes. You know, all those have to

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Speaker 1: be on the same page and the playoff because if

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Speaker 1: they're not, then you were going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: a really good regular season and again disappointment in the playoffs. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens in the next few weeks and

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Speaker 1: the things like you said, you guys said, it's not

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Speaker 1: killing them right now. It's waking out for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and you take every single win no matter what the

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Speaker 1: moment this point. Yeah, but those are little things that

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Speaker 1: do need to be cleaned up and as we get

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Speaker 1: closer to facing the Eagles and getting into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So that's all the time we have for today. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, Nate for joining us today. Brian,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so for I forgot how Derek

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Speaker 1: doesto out but whatever for nickname Bryan brought us. Remember, yeah,

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