1 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jagsam. I'm kind Annie Stevens back here with 2 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: us for free agency week. It's a big week in 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, and a big splash of course already right 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: out of the gate for the Jaguars. Brian Text and 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: John Oder are with me as we react to some 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: of those reported IS signings so far. Our big thing 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: number one today is going to be big splash because 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: last year we felt the Jaguars didn't do a ton 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: in free agency. They kind of tried to rework what 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: they had the season before. But they are not wasting 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: any time in free agency this time around. Brian, a 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: lot of names reportedly coming to this team. Of course 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: they're not official until Wednesday, but maybe five or six 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: players that we know of. What was the biggest name 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: that stood out to you. 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Mitch Morse, And I'm sure that doesn't surprise you because 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: of the way that I have harped on the interior 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: offensive line and the lack of push that Luke Fortner 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: get this team. Last year, they were amongst the worst 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: teams in the league on third down and short three 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: yards or less, and on the most important play of 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: the season, that fourth and goal from the one in Tennessee. 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: They got pushed backwards. 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: So bringing in a veteran guy who was in the 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl in twenty twenty two, has been with both 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: Kansas City and Buffalo. Mitch Morris is a name that 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: caught my attention because he's a veteran presence that you 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: can count on in the middle of the line. He 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: and Sheriff and whoever is at that left guard. It's 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: going to be Cleveland right. Last year they had a 31 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: lot of turnover there, but it gives you a veteran 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: presence in the middle of that line and a guy 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: who's proven a John. 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought this was obviously the one they needed 35 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: to do. 36 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 5: I'll go a different direction for the sake of not 37 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 5: going the same direction as Ryan Gabe Davis wide receiver 38 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 5: from Buffalo. Obviously, I think he fits into what they're doing. 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 5: I don't know that this team needs a quote true 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 5: number one in this offense. They really didn't have a 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 5: true number one in twenty twenty two. Everything sort of 42 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: fit together. Trevor Lawrence didn't feel pressure to go to 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 5: any particular receias that year. Maybe they're getting back to 44 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 5: that where the ball can just sort of go organically 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 5: I think Gay Davis gives you deep speed. 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: He gives you big playability. 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 5: I don't know that he's going to give you a 48 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 5: thousand yards he's never done that, but he gives you 49 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: sixteen point seven reception, and that stretches the field. Christian 50 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 5: Kirk and Evan Ingram can work underneath. Maybe that's the 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 5: way to go. I don't know about cal Ridley yet, 52 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 5: but if all you have going in is Zay Jones, Davis, 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: Kirk and Ingram, that's a fourth theme you can work with. 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 55 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: I would think that when you look at a hybrid situation, 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: you've got Ingram and Kirk, who are clearly the number one. 57 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: Guys, the guys who the quarterback depends on. 58 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 4: Ky. 59 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: I like Davis because he does have that size that 60 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: the Jaguars would like to have on the perimeter, a 61 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: guy you can throw the fifty to fifty ball up 62 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: to and expect that he'll come down with it. 63 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: Two Buffalo Bills heading south to Jacksonville will report that officially, 64 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: of course, for you on Wednesday. Our second big thing 65 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: today is not done yet, John, you mentioned it. Calvin Ridley. 66 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: We haven't heard any news about him, right, Just yeah, 67 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: that is no news good news right now? Does that 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: mean he might still be coming back to Jacksonville or 69 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: do you think he's had it elsewhere? 70 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 5: Well, sort of the way you said, no news isn't 71 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 5: bad news. Sure, so that's okay. I think they're in 72 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 5: a good situation with Calvin where if it's Gabe Davis 73 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 5: and Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram and then you retain 74 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 5: Za Jones, I think you're okay with that. If you 75 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 5: can bring back Calvin at a number that makes sense, 76 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: where it fits, where it's whatever kind of contract will 77 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 5: work out for both sides, it makes sense too. 78 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: So they've pulled it. They've sort of put themselves. 79 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 5: In that situation where they don't use a draft term Ryan, 80 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 5: they don't have to reach for Calvin. Really now, if 81 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 5: it works, it works, I'd be a little surprised, but 82 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 5: I've been surprised before, you. 83 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: Know, I would be surprised if he came back. 84 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: They went right after receiver in Gabe Davis, and that was, 85 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: you know, the first indicator. But I do know this, 86 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: when you get to day one of the open negotiating 87 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: window and you're not getting a lot of action, it 88 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: kind of sets the market and what we had heard 89 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: was was that Ridley was going to have a chance 90 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: and want to be a highly paid, productive receiver somewhere, 91 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: clearly the number one, but he didn't get any action 92 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: on day one. Maybe it changes here on day two 93 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: and he comes up with that big deal, But perhaps 94 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: his market is closer to what the Jaguars thought. 95 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: It was than what his representation thought it was. 96 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 5: And Ky, what I wonder is, you know, I got 97 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 5: the sense late in the season and this is purely 98 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 5: gone off a couple of conversations where I was one 99 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 5: of many people on Calvin. I got the idea he 100 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 5: wanted to come back. Maybe there's three or four teams involved, 101 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 5: and there's not a number out there that's just blowing 102 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: Jaguars out of the water. And he keeps saying, you 103 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 5: know what, you know, I like being down there. Speculation 104 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 5: at this point obviously, but maybe. 105 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: And something else to consider, Kay is the Jaguars and 106 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: I don't know all the numbers of the players they 107 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: signed yesterday, but you know they didn't have much cap 108 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: from about seventeen million dollars and they still got to 109 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: sign their class. You've got Josh Allen hanging with twenty 110 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: four million dollars on the French and then you also 111 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: have the opportunity perhaps to do something with the quarterback 112 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: to bring the cap numbers down so that you can 113 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: create opportunity if you want to go and play a 114 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: little bit more, or to find Calvin Ridley room if 115 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: he's still out there. So the Jaguars still have decisions 116 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: they've got to be making and plans they've got to 117 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: be laying out with respect to number forty one and 118 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: number sixteen. 119 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: An ion for sure, both of those things that were 120 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. 121 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 5: Long as well. 122 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is going to be draft decisions. 123 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: So we saw them do a ton of free agency 124 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: on Day one essentially, and what does that mean for 125 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: the draft. Ran We've been talking about the areas of need, 126 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: but they've addressed a couple of those places. So how 127 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: does this affect maybe where they go in the first round. 128 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Well, this kids have the ability to take whoever they want. 129 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: Right they feel like they've got three offensive tackles. Now, 130 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: they've got two guys that can compete at center. They've 131 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: got a number of guards. Where you bring Cooper Hodges 132 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: back to the equation this year, same thing you bring 133 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: in Ronald Darby, they really like Christian Braswell, who didn't 134 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 2: get to play last year very much. They've got some 135 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: numbers at corner, they've got some numbers at safety. So really, John, 136 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: you're in the position where if you're sitting at seventeen 137 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: and there's a defensive tackle you like you could take 138 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: him right. You don't have to lean into cornerback because 139 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: you let Darius Williams go. You don't have to lean 140 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: into receiver because you didn't re sign Calvin Ridley. It 141 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: lets them make that best available player choice. 142 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 5: Well, every GM wants to be able to line up 143 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: the day before the draft, meaning you don't have to 144 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 5: go reach for a guy you don't have to plug 145 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: then as a starter. I still feel like maybe corner 146 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 5: is a spot that is similar to what tackle was 147 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 5: last year, where you looked at it and said, you know, 148 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 5: maybe they don't have to go get Anton Harrison, but boy, 149 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 5: they need that spot on the offensive line. To me, 150 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: corner still feels that that this puts them in a 151 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 5: situation where if they're not feeling at number seventeen, as 152 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 5: you said, if there is what they consider an impact 153 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 5: player somewhere else, you can go another. 154 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: Direction certainly be interesting. We'll have a couple of weeks 155 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: to talk that over. But free agency is upon us 156 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: in a lot of name allegedly heading to Jacksonville. We're 157 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: going to talk over all of those right after we 158 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: come back from the break. Here on jags am, Move 159 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: the Freight, Move the Freight. Magellan Transport was voted the 160 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: cools office space in Jacksonville. You can apply online at 161 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: www dot Magellan Logistics dot com. Back here on jags 162 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: Am in Houndai Studios. I'm happy to be back with 163 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: my friends. 164 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: Did you guys, miss me, you've been gone a couple 165 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: of weeks? 166 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Did you have been fighting? Have you been getting along? 167 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: Did you go somewhere? 168 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Oh? 169 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: No, we get along? Fine, Yeah, we really did. It's great. 170 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Right, you're back on the same side of the couch. 171 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: This is trouble. A lot going on, and my first 172 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: day back at work yesterday reported signings. Of course, nothing 173 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: official until Wednesday, but we do get, you know, the 174 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: legal tampering periods, so we get a little more. 175 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: Are open negotiating window and I like that term, better. 176 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Open negotiating wind you Yeah, I mean they already knew it. 177 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, everybody already knew what they were doing 178 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: before the tampering. 179 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: Is now before the open negotiation window. 180 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Okay, God, open negotiation window. So I mean we talked 181 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: him a little bit about maybe the names that stand 182 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: out obviously those two Buffalo Bills. But there they went. 183 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean this kind of a little bit reminiscent of 184 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: maybe two years ago. I mean when Doug Peterson first 185 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: got here. They kind of went out and got some 186 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 1: people to address some needs. 187 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't because they couldn't splash as heavy as 188 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: they might have done a couple of years ago. They 189 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: just don't have the cap room to be able to 190 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: do it. But as John mentioned that, you know they 191 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: were lining up, they were putting bodies in place. You know, 192 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Darnell Savage is a guy who was the nineteenth pick 193 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: for the first round the year that the Packers took him, 194 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: had a couple of good years with them, had a 195 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: couple of years where he wasn't quite as productive, and 196 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: they were willing to let him walk. So you hope 197 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: that you go and capture a young guy who still 198 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: got plenty of upside and development and may fit in 199 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: your system. The thing that strikes me about most of 200 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: these guys. Is is that you were bringing in guys 201 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: who have to come in at a lower cap number. 202 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Right. 203 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: The demand might not have been. 204 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 2: There on the market, but the Jaguars wanted him, and 205 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: that's what's important, Especially with a guy like Savage. You've 206 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: got a new defensive coordinator who's bringing in a new 207 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: scheme and you need guys who can do what he 208 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: wants them to do. 209 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 5: I think Darby fits that as well, and so does Savage. 210 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 5: Look ideally, you're not bringing in this many free agents. 211 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm gonna shout at the clouds 212 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: a little bit, but you'd rather be getting these guys 213 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 5: through the draft. Credit them for looking at and saying, 214 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 5: you know what, we drafted Fortner, but we've got to 215 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 5: fix the center issue, not. 216 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 4: Hanging on to that. 217 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 5: Credit to him, Gabe Davis. To me, all all these 218 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 5: guys sort of fit it what I like in this sense, 219 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 5: you're not playing at the high end of free agency, 220 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,119 Speaker 5: where you're absolutely crippling yourself if you don't work. 221 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: There. 222 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 5: I would term this as maybe the very very end 223 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 5: of the first wave of free agency. I'd rather play 224 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 5: in the second wave if you had to play in 225 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 5: the first wave, play at this level. 226 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: All these guys make sense. 227 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 5: And I will say this the one thing about them 228 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 5: going after free agents in three or four years, Trent 229 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 5: is very, very very good at. 230 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 4: Picking the right free agents. 231 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: Right. 232 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 5: They've had more success with free agency than any team 233 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: I've been around, Jaguars, Colts, whatever. So there's a high 234 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: percentage chance these guys fit right, you know. 235 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: Kay, we're talking about free agency day one, right, and 236 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: the guys the DAGs brought in, and we're going to 237 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: turn to the draft really quickly, but we shouldn't forget 238 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: that in between. That is maybe the most important component 239 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: and that's all the draft picks they had last year, right, 240 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: all the guys you know, Tyler Lacy and Cooper Hodges 241 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: and Eric Hallett and Christian Braswell. I mean, these are 242 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: guys that you brought in to be jars on the shelf, 243 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: developmental guys. You didn't need them last year, but you 244 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: need them this year and next year. As you're paying 245 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: Josh Allen and you're paying Trevor, you're gonna pay some 246 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: of these guys. So you need low cost guys who 247 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: can come in and play like starters. And I don't 248 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: want people to forget that that group last year is 249 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: big for a reason because they needed bodies, many many 250 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: developmental guys. And that's to me, other than Mitch Morse, 251 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: that draft classroom last year is more important than everyone 252 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: else that they signed. 253 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 5: It's very important. Is Antonio Johnson good? Is Parker Washington good? 254 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: Yes? 255 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 4: Cooper Hidge as we keep hearing about. 256 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: And bendro Miller come back and be a key linebacker 257 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: for you. 258 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 5: I do wonder with Cooper Hodges, had he been healthy 259 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 5: last year, maybe their equation on the offensive line is different. 260 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 5: That's sort of I think handcuff them a little bit. 261 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 5: They love Cooper Hodges, but he didn't play, so it's 262 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 5: hard to say, hey, this is our guy going forward. 263 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: Go. 264 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see what he's able to do 265 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: in training camp. Obviously, work his way, and they've added 266 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: at center there with Mitch Morse. I made a little 267 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: to do list for us here on JACKSXAM, I did 268 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: an off season to do list. Obviously Number one is 269 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: signed Josh Allen to a long term deal. That one 270 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: has yet to get checked off. 271 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: But you know the cost now we now know because 272 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: Brian Burdeny's got a huge deal. The Giants one hundred 273 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: and fifty million eighty seven point seven guaranteed, and I 274 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: think it pushes him over thirty million dollars a year average. 275 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what it costs now for Josh Allen. 276 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 5: But my guess is that's what happened at the deadline 277 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 5: is the cap went up. 278 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 4: Josh's people in this purely speculation as people. 279 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: Look at the market and say, well, if we signed 280 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 5: for twenty nine million in two years, he's going to 281 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 5: be grossly underpaid. So they probably went to the Jaguars 282 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: and said this and Jared's no, well, we got to 283 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 5: see if that makes any sense. Now that they see 284 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 5: what it is, maybe something gets. 285 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: Done well in production wise. I mean, Josh and Brian 286 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: since they came into the league are very close in 287 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: terms of the number of overall sacks. And last year 288 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: Brian Burns on a bad team had twelve and a 289 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: half sacks and on a pretty decent team, pretty good team, 290 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 2: Josh Allen had seventeen and a half. 291 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: So I mean it's just if you're Josh. 292 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: Allen's people, you're putting a little bit bigger deal now 293 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: in front of Dreads and his people saying this is. 294 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: What we want. 295 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: When does this get done that? I feel like we've 296 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: been talking about this for months and it's like. 297 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 2: Well, you want you want the room. You need the 298 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: room to be able to do some things and have 299 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: maneuverability with your cap So I would imagine their trading 300 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: proposals here in the next week. 301 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 4: All right. 302 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about the O line, what 303 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: they've done there that was on our to do list, 304 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: and then adding some depth on defense. I we talked 305 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: a little bit about it, John, but I kind of 306 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: like where they added in the defensive backs to kind 307 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: of also, as you mentioned, allow these second year, third 308 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: year players of the Jags have to see what they have. Right, 309 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: Cisco's gonna be up soon, you know. On cornerback, they 310 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: didn't get really what they wanted. They let Darius go, 311 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: So we'll see what Tyson Campbell's kind of able to do, 312 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: whether he you know, he was hurt a lot last year, 313 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: if he can bounce back, whether that's someone they want 314 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: to keep long term. I think this will be a 315 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: big year on defense to kind of see what you 316 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: have and whether you want to keep that continuing next season. 317 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Tyson Campbell was sort of a lock for 318 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 5: an extension before last year. 319 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: Didn't play, you know, had the hamstriggen. 320 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, the hamstring. 321 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 5: I don't think you can look at Tyson Campbell's season 322 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 5: and not fact to the hamstring and heavily. So what 323 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: they're gonna have to do next off season is they're 324 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 5: gonna have to figure out how cornerback's going to look. 325 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: At some point you need to draft him because it's 326 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 5: a young man's position, and right now they have Tyson 327 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: Campbell going into year four round derby. In year ten, 328 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 5: you don't know what Nicol looks like. That's why I 329 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 5: still think corners a big possibility at number seventeen, because 330 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 5: that's a position that you want to keep young because 331 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 5: it you know it, it is a young man spring 332 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: in the legs position. So not that Tyson's old, but 333 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 5: you don't know if he's coming back after this year, 334 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 5: so you got to make sure that position is young 335 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 5: and vibrant. 336 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: Like ky not us, I love. 337 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: A compliment necesarily in the morning, I'll take you. 338 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: Welcome back guy, thank you. 339 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: Final thing on my list. I kind of threw on 340 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: there because I know we have talked a little bit 341 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: about it is Trevor still part of a conversation of 342 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: something they do this year, if they really fully pushed 343 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: it to next year. 344 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think you ever fully push your quarterback 345 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: to next year. 346 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: I think you're always looking at your cap from a 347 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: you know, a thirty thousand foot view and trying to 348 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: figure out when do we need to do it. 349 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: Late in summer is kind of the time we have. 350 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow got his deal done. 351 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what Mahomes got his done. 352 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's usually the time because it takes it's so complex, 353 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 5: it's it's and it sounds silly, but it's been busy 354 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: in the last six weeks. So at some point summer 355 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 5: gives you a chance to say, Okay, here's our cap, 356 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 5: here's how it works, here's how it fits. You get 357 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 5: on the phone, hey shod right. You know this is 358 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 5: a big one. So there's a lot that goes into 359 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 5: this because if you look at the borough number, if 360 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: you look at mahomes number, it shapes your franchise, hopefully 361 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 5: for ten years, how that has structured, How are these 362 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: things fit, how it grows. 363 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: It's the engine that drives your salary gup. 364 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: How much you want to have in each year, so 365 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 5: I think, if memory serves, I think Herbert got done 366 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 5: late as well. 367 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: So Herbert Burrow a lot of the mega deals. 368 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 5: Josh Allen, I don't think any of them are on 369 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 5: the start of the league year because it's too much 370 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: to try to get done. 371 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: And I think that when you look at it. But 372 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: Doug said resoundingly at the combine, he's our guy. Okay, well, 373 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: you know you're going to get a deal done for him, 374 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: right You're going to extend him, So figure out what 375 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: the number is. As John said, kind of take your time, 376 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: look at your whole salary cap picture, and then. 377 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: Go ahead and make the offer. 378 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: But you've got his fourth year and his fifth year option, 379 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: so you do have the backstop. You don't need to 380 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: necessarily get it done. If you can't come to a 381 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: number that works, you can be patient with it. But 382 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: if he's your guy, you want to set your salary 383 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: cap up for twenty twenty five and beyond as soon 384 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: as you can. 385 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye on a little bit later 386 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: on in the summer as things get closer to training camp, 387 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: stay with us here as we're going to do an 388 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: ozone mail bag when we come back after the break. 389 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: Jaggs fans, you can join us on Tuesday, April sixty 390 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: from six thirty to eight thirty at EverBank Stadium for 391 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: the be inspired by Jags jobs and of course also 392 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars fans. Get We were up at fanatics dot com 393 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: with all the latest Dag styles shop now get today's 394 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: special offer fanatics dot Com officially licensed everything. 395 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: Oh. 396 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: One of our very favorite segments, John As we get 397 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: your readers, our viewers, listeners to write in and see 398 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: what they have questions. 399 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: Talk about. Yeah, good segment. 400 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: I enjoy yourself all right. 401 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: Our first reader viewer listener David from the Island. He 402 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: wants to know the signing. The signing for Morse and 403 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: trading for Jones negatively affect the Jags when computing compensatory 404 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: picks next year. 405 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 5: No, they only And I included this because there's a 406 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 5: lot of misunderstanding of that. I think any acquisition is 407 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 5: going to cost you commisitory picks. 408 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: First of all, I'd be surprised if they get. 409 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 5: A commensatory pick now because they have been active in 410 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 5: free agency. The formula is gains and losses involving unrestricted 411 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 5: free agents in one off season affect your compensatory picks. 412 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 5: The next offseason, they traded for Jones. 413 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 4: He's not in it. Morse was not unrestricted. 414 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 5: Because he was released by Buffalo. Now that's said, they've 415 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: gone after four unrestricted guys, not huge number guys, but 416 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 5: when you go after that many, they would have to 417 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 5: lose somebody dramatic like Ridley. Maybe they get one in that, 418 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: but I'd be a little surprised because they've gained a 419 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 5: lot in free agency when that's been the reason that 420 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 5: the Jaguars haven't heck pens story picks for the last 421 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 5: decade or so is they haven't drafted well historically. 422 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: Ye. 423 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: So they have been active in free agency, and when 424 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 5: you're that active in free agency, you don't get the 425 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 5: pen story picks because you're more active than you lose. 426 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: I can't add anything to that. 427 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing I do know is that 428 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: they have tweaked the system yearly to try to get 429 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 2: it right. You lose a big free agent, generally, you're 430 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: going to get a bottom of the third round pick. 431 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: You lose some middle guys, you're generally going to get 432 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: a sixth or seventh round pick. 433 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll see how that ends, but if 434 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: you sign guys it cancels out. 435 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 5: That negates all that. So there is a little bit 436 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: of a misconception. A lot of my ozone weders said, 437 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 5: well they should just get rid of Ridley. They'll get 438 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 5: a third round pick. Well not if you go out 439 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 5: and be active, So that doesn't add up, and people 440 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 5: will be mad. 441 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: Next year if that happens. But that's how it. 442 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Is, all right, let's hear our. Another fanatic fan question. 443 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: Brian from Tampa is next up, and he says, the 444 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: JAG's got more expensive on Monday, but did they get better? 445 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: Well? 446 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 5: And I included this one because I'm not sure they 447 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: got that much more expensive. Yes, you get expensive when 448 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 5: you play in free agency. But I didn't get the 449 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: idea that this was just cash at the door, you know, 450 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 5: throw everything at it guy. 451 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: This was a more measured approach. 452 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 453 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 5: I think they got better because I think Mitch Morse 454 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 5: makes you better, because I think it makes you stouter 455 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: in the middle. 456 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: Did they get better everywhere? Else? Is Gabe Davis quote 457 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 4: better than Calvin Ridley? I don't know. Is he a 458 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 4: cheaper option? 459 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 5: They can give you something different the other guys. I 460 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 5: think you're assured of starters who can help you going in. 461 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 5: Are they that much better everywhere else? 462 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I haven't seen yet. 463 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: Mitch Morris makes you better, right, everyone else makes you 464 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: more competitive? I think that's probably the best way to 465 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: say to who can say what Darnell Savage brings. I mean, 466 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: he was a special teams player last year in Green Bay. 467 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: The Jaguars are taking a flyer on this. They're looking 468 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: at his overall talent and saying he's got what we 469 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: want to do X, Y and Z. Well, you can't say, well, okay, 470 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: you're better here or there. I like Gay Biggers. I 471 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 2: think he's a good football player. But is he that 472 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: explosive guy that Calvin Ridley showed us at times? 473 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: He can be? 474 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: I don't. 475 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: He's not right, but he is a guy who can 476 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: probably be more consistent. Calvin was inconsistent running routes and 477 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: created problems. That's not been the word on gave Davis 478 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: that he's a tough guy, smart guy, well prepared guy. 479 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: So does he make you better? In one sense, he's 480 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: there where the quarterback wants him to be. In another sense, 481 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: he's not the down the field guy that Calvin is. 482 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 5: I thought Darby was interesting that pick up too, because 483 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 5: clearly they didn't believe that Darius Williams fit what they're doing. 484 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 5: They believe that Darby does. You also bring Darby in 485 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 5: and he doesn't absolutely cripple you for five years. It's 486 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 5: a two year deal. He's going into his tenth year. 487 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: He and Morrise are Obviously, we've got to do something 488 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: at these spots because it's hard to draft, Like if 489 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 5: you're going into the draft this year trying to fill 490 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 5: those two spots, it's hard to go get two corners 491 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 5: and a center in the draft. So in this case, 492 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 5: they had to sort of go get a couple of 493 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 5: stop gaps. I would expect them to draft those two 494 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 5: positions over the next couple of years to try to 495 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 5: get it right. 496 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: Art Our final fan question is from Michael in Orange Park. 497 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: He said, well, at least the Jaguars did something on 498 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line, but have they done enough? And John 499 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: you alluded to that maybe this is the little stop 500 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: gappy and then kind of address it in the draft 501 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: as well, and see what Cooper Hodge just brings. 502 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, the approach with the offensive line, everybody wanted 503 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 5: to just oh, tear it down. But it's hard to do, 504 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 5: and it's easy to say, go do it. But if 505 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 5: you go do that, then all of a sudden, you're 506 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 5: bringing in mega price free agent and you're committing the 507 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 5: entire draft to that. 508 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: I'd be fine if they went offensive line in. 509 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 5: The draft philosophically, but philosophically can go out the window, 510 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 5: and you need corners. So their school of thought clearly 511 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 5: is if we're making the middle stouter, and if we 512 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 5: can get these guys in continuity, that'll be enough to improve. 513 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 4: That's the approach. 514 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be scared to take an offensive lineman in 515 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: the draft because correct me if I'm wrong. Cam Robinson 516 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: is in the final year of his free agent contract 517 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: and Walker Little is in the free agent in the 518 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: final year of his rookie contract. So next year you 519 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: have one tackle under contract, Anthon Harrison, who's a really 520 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: good one. So depending on what they think of these 521 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: two guys and what their contract demands might be, if 522 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: you take an offensive tackle at seventeen in a draft 523 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: that is filled with really good offensive tackles, as many 524 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 2: as nine guys could go in the first round. If 525 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: you take one of those guys, fine, right, yeah, fine, 526 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: you're setting yourself up long term. The GM's job is 527 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: always to have a long term perspective on the roster, 528 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: and I think that would be a good move. 529 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 5: And philosophically, that is a perfectly legitimate thing to do. 530 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: Even though you've got two tackles, as you know, can 531 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 5: start because it's difficult. Teams do it, but it's difficult 532 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: to find tackles that you love outside about the top 533 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 5: forty all. 534 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: Right, something to keep an eye on. Stay with us 535 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: here on jag Zam. We're going to come back talk 536 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: a little bit about what we've got going on for 537 00:23:50,160 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: free agency, tomorrown where the team is headed with that expans. 538 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: Join us on Tuesday, April sixteenth, from six thirty to 539 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: eight thirty at EverBank Stadium for the Beat inspired by 540 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: Jags Jobs event presented by the Florida Lottery. You can 541 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: register now at Jaguars dot com. Slash right futures. 542 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 6: He dropped the throat looking looking fires fill in the 543 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 6: field and that ball is picked off. It is picked 544 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 6: off the race shown jackins. He's running it back along 545 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 6: the right sideline. That is gonna be a touchdown. That 546 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 6: is gonna be a touchdown. The Jags are gonna win 547 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 6: it on a race Seoan jacko its big six? 548 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? 549 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: A lot of changes for the Jags and a lot 550 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: of new faces we mentioned are coming to town. That 551 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: means a lot of other people are not gonna be 552 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: here this year. Rashaon Jenkins one of those cap casualties, 553 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: Darius Williams as well, and I think with some other signings, 554 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: there's some other players that probably wants you. Jamal Agnew 555 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: one of those as well. So things are changing. It's 556 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: not gonna be like last year. 557 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 2: As he goes out the door, it's important to remember 558 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: that Rayshawn Jenkins in twenty twenty one. 559 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: Right his first year here, he was okay. 560 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, he gave you two of the 561 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: biggest defensive plays in franchise history, the one that we 562 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: just saw and obviously the sack strip against the Titans 563 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: that turned into a Josh Allen touchdown that was such 564 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: a dramatic end to that season. So, I mean three years, 565 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: two enormous memorialized kind of plays As a good signing. 566 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you play this game for the money, 567 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 5: but players also play it for the memories and the 568 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: moment he turned into the moments. 569 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: That fans will never forget. 570 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 5: I think the Rayshaw's relationship with the team will remain strong. 571 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: I expect at some point to see him back and 572 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 5: fans will always be able to say, hey man, I 573 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 5: was there, you know, and Jamal Agne the same way 574 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 5: in the disaster. And I think the signing of a. 575 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 4: Dervin A probably means gone. 576 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 5: I mean so, but fans who were there will never 577 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 5: forget one hundred and nine yard return and he changed 578 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 5: a lot of games. 579 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 4: So it's a business. 580 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 5: These guys eventually have to leave, but a few guys 581 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 5: will leave that I think mean a lot to fans. 582 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 5: And hopefully these guys are financially secure for the rest 583 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 5: of their lives. 584 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 4: But if they take with. 585 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: Them those kind of moments and those kind of connections, 586 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: that's pretty cool to you. 587 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely. As for us the rest of the week, We're 588 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: going to have a special show, Free Agency Live tomorrow 589 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: at four pm and we're going to have a lot 590 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: of talk about as all of these things will become official. 591 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: So are we going to see anymore before that or 592 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: just the ones we've seen so far? 593 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what they are keeping Tim Walsh 594 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: in a very sharp pencil, busy because they came into 595 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: this week with roughly eighteen million dollars in salary cap room, 596 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: and you start signing free agents in the numbers that 597 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: they have, and that evaporates quickly, and you still need 598 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: to have room for your draft class, right, which is 599 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: what nine picks now. I wouldn't anticipate there being anything more, 600 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: but I'd be honest with you, I didn't think they'd 601 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: have this many. 602 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: John. 603 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: What we know about Calvin by Wednesday or do you 604 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: think it might be later in the week. 605 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 5: I would expect. I would expect to hear something today. 606 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: It just sort of feels. But I wasn't shocked you 607 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 5: didn't hear something yesterday. I'd be a little more shocked. 608 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 4: For doing something today. 609 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think by tomorrow at four pm, which 610 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 5: is about our show, will. 611 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: Be all right. Check out our show on Jaguars dot 612 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: com and on YouTube as well, and then we'll keep 613 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: you posted the rest of the week when all these 614 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: free agents come to Jacksonville.