WEBVTT - London Mayor Sadiq Khan Talks AI, Migration, Local Elections

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. Mayer Kin, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining. It's at the Bloomberg City Lab

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<v Speaker 1>event in Madrid. What message have you right here to

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<v Speaker 1>share with your fellow mayoras.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, firstly, the Bloomberg City of app is fizzing with

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<v Speaker 2>the ideas. You've got more than one hundred those from

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<v Speaker 2>the NGO, those from the private sector. And the theme

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<v Speaker 2>of my speech here today and the event I took

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<v Speaker 2>place in was to discuss AI. We've announced that a

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg philanthropiees a new Mayor's AI Forum ten cities across

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<v Speaker 2>the globe, five continents. We represent one hundred million people,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll be working with the big tech companies, the

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<v Speaker 2>AI companies, national legislatures, businesses to ensure AI works for us.

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<v Speaker 2>The way I describe is there are three groups of people.

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<v Speaker 2>AI evangelists who just think there's amazing, there are no

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to worry about, all roastings and glasses. AI alarmists

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<v Speaker 2>just doom and gloom. AIS bad as a boogeyman, be

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of it or what I am, which is an

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<v Speaker 2>AI realist, understand there are huge advantages, huge possibilities, but

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<v Speaker 2>also recognize there are some disadvantages, there are some perils

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to navigate our way through. But the great

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<v Speaker 2>news is cities are going to work together under the

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<v Speaker 2>ostriches of you know, this Mayor's AI Forum to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure it works for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Turning to the topic of climate change, we've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of governments kind of backsliding on their climate change promises.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you think things stand when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the climate change? Is this something that you feel you

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely still are committed to combating.

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<v Speaker 2>But as good us to this bad views lor President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in his second term is very similar to President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump as he was in his first term. He walked

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<v Speaker 2>away from the Pirates Agreement, very unilateralist, doesn't accept man

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<v Speaker 2>made changes happening, almost punishing those of us taking action

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<v Speaker 2>to address the climate emergency. That's the bad use. The

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<v Speaker 2>great news is you've got some great mayres in America,

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<v Speaker 2>great governors in America really stepping up into the breach

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<v Speaker 2>across the globe. The c forty group of meys ninety

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<v Speaker 2>six meres from New York, Los Angeles, Phoenix to Lisbon, London, Freetown,

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<v Speaker 2>Daka Cape Town working together to turn this crisis of

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<v Speaker 2>climate change into an opportunity. What I mean, can we

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<v Speaker 2>use this as a way of creating new green jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's going to make the solar panels, the wind turbines,

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to plant the trees, Who's going to install

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<v Speaker 2>the electric vehicle charging points? Who will make the electric vehicles?

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<v Speaker 2>How do we, you know, turn the crisis of air

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<v Speaker 2>pollution into cleaner making sure that you know people across

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<v Speaker 2>the globe are breathing cleaner. Are giving an amazing stat

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<v Speaker 2>which is across the globe more people died because of

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<v Speaker 2>air prematurely than tobacco. In London, we've reversed it with

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<v Speaker 2>the world's largest clean air zone with the largest number

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<v Speaker 2>of electric taxis in Europe, and great cities across the globe,

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<v Speaker 2>including America. Great states in America are also being bold.

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<v Speaker 1>When we think about issues that a lot of cities

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<v Speaker 1>are facing. Housing is clearly an issue that is across

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<v Speaker 1>the board for large cities. It's something that you've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to tackle. Some of your critics said that you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't delivered on some of the promises that you've made.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you rate how you're doing and what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think I've been some of the biggest obstacles to

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<v Speaker 1>building more housing. Obviously everyone wants more housing, but what

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<v Speaker 1>have been some of the obstacles.

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<v Speaker 2>With I think in London and other great cities we

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<v Speaker 2>face the house in Christ's why. Because people want to

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<v Speaker 2>live in our cities. That is a good thing. There

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<v Speaker 2>are some cities, by the way, don't want to embarrass

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<v Speaker 2>them by naming them. For people are leaving the cities

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<v Speaker 2>that is a bad thing. So the pulse of our

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<v Speaker 2>city is good. People want to move there. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to plan for that growth. So the great news is,

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<v Speaker 2>up until the pandemic, we had completed more homes than

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen thirties, and we had built more municipal homes

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<v Speaker 2>than in times the nineteen seventies. The challenge we've had

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<v Speaker 2>is a perfect storm, the pandemic, the consequence of Brexit.

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<v Speaker 2>Construction inflation stills gone on by fifty percent, concrete gone

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<v Speaker 2>up by forty four percent. We've had an awful fire

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<v Speaker 2>in London where a tour building grenfell. Seventy two people

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<v Speaker 2>lost their lives. We've brought new regulations to address that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's increased the cost of housing. But also we had

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<v Speaker 2>the previous government had awful economic policies which want interest

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<v Speaker 2>rates went up. The great news is working with the

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<v Speaker 2>Labor government, the new government, we're addressing this issue and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really confident we will have over the course of

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<v Speaker 2>the next year and the next few years record numbers

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<v Speaker 2>of houses built. In the short term. This government is

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<v Speaker 2>supporting us to bring in legislation to improve the quality

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<v Speaker 2>of accommodation, to give us more security of tenure, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really confident in that London will lead the way

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to good, genuinely affordable, good quality housing.

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<v Speaker 1>You said it would be folly for the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of the current Prime minister, But how

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<v Speaker 1>do you see him surviving when you look at what's

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<v Speaker 1>playing out just even today in London.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you speak as I do on a daily

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<v Speaker 2>basis to chief executives, to people won't to invest anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>they can to agent investors. One of the things they're

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<v Speaker 2>crying out for when it comes to where to invest

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<v Speaker 2>is certainty, is stability, is calm. We have that in

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<v Speaker 2>the UK with Prime Minister Kirs Starmer. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>five year parliament. We're approaching the middle of that parliament

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<v Speaker 2>and you have hiccups and the rhythm of government is

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to say popular the entire five years.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember joined President Obama's midterm in his first term,

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<v Speaker 2>the Shillakin he received in the mid terms, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's similar to that when those watching from America. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>confident though, that Ker's got the right values, the right policies,

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<v Speaker 2>the right team to take us through this temporary bad weather.

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<v Speaker 2>He's facing to lead us in the next half of

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<v Speaker 2>this parliament and we'll start seeing some of the fruit

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<v Speaker 2>of the seats planted in the first two years.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be a test of everyone, including the Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Party in the local elections next week. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you think some of these things that are happening within

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<v Speaker 1>the party are going to play out in the election?

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<v Speaker 2>So I've made the seventh elections are almost like a

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<v Speaker 2>midterm election. So historically when there's been a Labor government

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<v Speaker 2>in the midterms, the council elections and Labor does less well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that doesn't happen this time because we've got

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<v Speaker 2>some great labor councils delivering housing, delivering youth services, supporting communities,

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<v Speaker 2>invested in their parks, invested in their libraries, and start

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<v Speaker 2>to wait and see, but it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>tough election Labor. I think that's christ in and that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things I'm hoping my colleagues in Parliament

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<v Speaker 2>have cool, calm heads and realize we've got five years

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver in terms of the national government. The peroration

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<v Speaker 2>the peak is towards the end of that five years,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't want panic if we do badly and

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<v Speaker 2>May the seventh and I'm hoping the polls aren't as

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<v Speaker 2>accurate as they've been in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>How concerned are you about losing seats in particular to

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens, and how what's the message that Labor can

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<v Speaker 1>give to voters in the week that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>go into.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the evidence from the last two years of

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<v Speaker 2>this Labor government, the last ten years of my administration

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<v Speaker 2>as the mayor is we other people on the side

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<v Speaker 2>of ordinary Londoners and those across the country to address

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<v Speaker 2>the cost living crisis. We're bringing in, you know, generational

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<v Speaker 2>change when it comes to rights for renters, rights for workers.

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<v Speaker 2>We've supported those with young children in terms of free childcare.

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<v Speaker 2>I've brought in nutritious free school mills for those at

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<v Speaker 2>primary school below the age of eleven. So over the

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<v Speaker 2>next couple of weeks, my job and the job of Oy,

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<v Speaker 2>the labor of holdings and activists to remind people in

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<v Speaker 2>London and across the country the change a labor government,

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<v Speaker 2>working with a labor mayor and labor councilors have made.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand why people have been able to protest. Whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's green or whether it's on the right. Reform process

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't improve people's life, public service, the right values, the

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<v Speaker 2>right policies does. You could have changed that is good

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<v Speaker 2>and changed that is bad. Finding for one of these

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<v Speaker 2>other parties it will need to change, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>bad change.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever think you would see a party leading

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<v Speaker 1>nationally in the pause in the UK that is advocating

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<v Speaker 1>for maths deportations.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what the labor government is advocating, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>the main opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>Reforms correct polls currently.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've just spent time with a Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>Sanchez of Spain, an example of a progressive national leader

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<v Speaker 2>educating people in this country about the benefits of lawful migration,

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<v Speaker 2>the benefits that migrants make, healthy migrants make, and our

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<v Speaker 2>job has progressive is to explain to people why they're

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<v Speaker 2>having challenges with lack of decent healthcare, lack of decent housing,

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<v Speaker 2>lack of business education. It's not because of immigration, it's

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<v Speaker 2>because successive governments haven't delivered. I think there are two

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<v Speaker 2>type of politicians, those that play on people's fears and

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<v Speaker 2>those that address fares. And I think Reform like President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>play on people's fears. What they've done is they've brought

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<v Speaker 2>into the mainstream views that were on the periphery. What

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump has done is he's enabled these views on

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<v Speaker 2>the periphery to become mainstream views. And the Reform Party

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK, led by Naja frag are what I

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<v Speaker 2>call the poor man's version of a President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And Maga. I read somewhere that you speak regularly with

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<v Speaker 1>the New York mayor. What do you talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>And listen, I think you know Zora's doing a great

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<v Speaker 2>job as the new mayor of New York. This guy

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<v Speaker 2>is charismatic, he is young, he is good looking, so

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<v Speaker 2>of course I hate him.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor, Thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pleasure