1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, What happened to this beautiful, 2 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: beautiful girl and now a woman inspired by the Oscar 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: winning field three Billboards puts up a huge plea offering 4 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars reward to try and find out 5 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: who murdered her twin sister. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 6 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: Do you know who killed Jody Lacorne? Twenty four years 7 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: after she was murdered? A sister is asking Baltimore the 8 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: same question she's been asking for decades. Just keep trying, 9 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, trying to find who murdered her sister on 10 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: March second, nineteen ninety six. I feel like there's somebody 11 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: out there that knows something and that we just haven't 12 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: gotten to that person yet. Three new billboards going up 13 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: offering a one hundred thousand dollars reward. I really feel 14 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: like her case is solvable, and it's just it's very 15 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: frustrating to see this over these this time, and it 16 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: just it's making me just become more and more involved 17 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: a sister's crusade to crack the case. It's this terrible 18 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: place to be in because I know Jody was murdered 19 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: when we were twenty three, and my life just changed forever. 20 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: You're hearing our friends at w j Z CBS thirteen. 21 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean Ac Grace, this is crime stories and with 22 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: me the sister, the twin sister of Jody Lakorneu, Jinny 23 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Lakornu Careeri, her twin sister, also with me director of 24 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the Coal Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCollum, Jenny, I want 25 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: to hear your story, your story, Jinny, starting with the 26 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: time you discovered your twin sister, Jody was murdered. Thank 27 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: you and I'm very grateful you having searing Jody's story. 28 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: And we were twenty three, were again called twins two 29 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: minutes apart. We were twenty three, and she was on 30 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: my parents' wedding anniversary. She was living in tous and 31 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: it was March second, nineteen ninety six. We were not 32 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: living together at the time. She was living with her 33 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: boyfriend and I was engaged in living out west. But 34 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: we were still, you know, we were inseparable growing up, 35 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: but we still you know, that's when they had the 36 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: landline phone. We still talked on the phone every day 37 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: and with reck up credit card bills to come visit 38 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: each other. And since she and her boyfriend had gotten 39 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: into a fight the Thursday nights Apolidays. It was Friday 40 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: morning that they got into a free hold on Jenny. 41 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: I just want to say something, Cheryl McCallum. You have 42 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: your two beautiful, beautiful children, and you told me the 43 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: way it was going to be when I had the twins. 44 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, I want to be the closest one in 45 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the world to them. I wanted to be me, but 46 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: I've had to accept it's each other. I mean, you 47 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: have boy girl, I have boy girl twins. They have 48 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: their own ways of communicating. In fact, my favorite picture 49 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: I've showed you, Cheryl, is of them immediately after their 50 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: birth and they're curled up together facing each other in 51 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the hospital and he's holding her with his two hands 52 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: and she is sucking his nose. Oh my god, Yes, 53 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: And that is my favorite. I've got so many favorite pictures. 54 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Why am I saying that's my favorite peture? But I 55 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: mean they I was listening to she was two minutes 56 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: apart from Jody. The twins were one minute apart. And 57 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't deny that bond between twins, Cheryl. Now, 58 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: you can't deny it. As close as Huck and Caroline 59 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: are and they even had their own language when they 60 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: were smaller, and only Caroline would only really talk to 61 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Huck and he would translate for her. So and I know, 62 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: twins have their own language and telepathy and everything else. 63 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: And you know the person that literally starts life with you, 64 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: Like Jenny said about Jody, that was her best friend, 65 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: that was her lifelong, you know, best friend, and that's 66 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: how it was going to be. And I have to 67 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: tell you the way she is fighting for justice for her, 68 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: She's still Jody's best friend, you know, Jenny. I just 69 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: I just had to to weigh in on the closeness 70 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: between siblings, especially twins. And oh yeah, okay, to throw 71 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: you off, guys, for those of you just joining us, 72 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: Jenny lacorneu Careeri is with me. Her sister, then twenty 73 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: three year old Townsend University student, Jody was murdered. So 74 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: that evening what happened in your life, Jinny, well in 75 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: my life, so I was we I got the I 76 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: tried to call her on the Saturday morning, so she 77 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: had gone to work that day and her boyfriend told 78 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: her not to come home, and so I got it 79 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: was Saturday morning, you know, she got shot in the 80 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: middle of the night. It was the wee hours of Saturday, 81 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: and so I my punt called my fiance and had 82 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: him come tell me because they didn't want me to 83 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: be by myself. And I remember I had tried to 84 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: call her and I couldn't get a hold of her, 85 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: and I just I had a weird feeling, but nothing. 86 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you never think something as horrible as this, 87 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, And so um, I mean I remember clearly 88 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: having these little, um, you know, my green flannel pajamas 89 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and I'll never forgot it. But you know, I just 90 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: I went numb and suck. I mean, he just walked 91 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: in and said Jodie's dead. And just how to even 92 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: feel that? Understand it? It's it's just, I mean, that's 93 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: something that you see on in a movie or you know, 94 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: somebody being shot and um, you know, he said she 95 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: was shot in the parking lot or I can't remember 96 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: the exact way I went. The one thing I remember 97 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: is Jodie's dead, and um, I mean from then on, 98 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: it was just complete just going through the motions and 99 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: just getting getting back home to my family, and um, 100 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, I mean just for years. I mean, I 101 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: just couldn't. I couldn't cope. I mean, it's it's truely 102 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: been in the last couple of years that I feel 103 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: like I've really started to deal with her death because 104 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: I just I couldn't. You know, Well, I've got to 105 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: tell you something. And I don't know that this is 106 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: good or bad, but I've never been able to bring 107 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: myself to go to where my fiancee was murdered. Yeah, 108 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't have any desire because it will destroy me 109 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and I will be out of it for I don't 110 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: know how long. And I don't want to go into 111 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: a depression because of the twins especially, they don't need that. Guys. 112 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: For those of you who just joining us, twenty three 113 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: year old Jodie Lacorne was shot in the back while 114 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: she was seated in her car at the Drumcastle shopping 115 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: center off York Road. After being shot, she managed to 116 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: drive across York Road to another shopping center, and it 117 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: is there that she died. Joining me in addition to 118 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: her twins sister Jenny as director of the Coal Case 119 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: Research Institute Cheryl McCollum. Cheryl explained to me the dynamics 120 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: of that night when Jody was murdered. She had been 121 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: told by her living boyfriend not to come home. They 122 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: had a fight. So she goes on the world. Who 123 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: wa wait, right, why did he tell her not to 124 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: come home? Why? Why didn't she tell him not to 125 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: come home? That's a question I had for Jenny as well. 126 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't understand that. But he did explain that Jenny, 127 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: before we go one inch further. Okay, where does he 128 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: get the power to tell her not to come home? Right? 129 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: He was a lot older than she was and she 130 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: liked to go to the local tavern and be with 131 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: her friend, So that was what he was angry out 132 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: as the night before he found out she had gone 133 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: to the tavern and he didn't want her there. He 134 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: wanted her to be home. Wow. Wow, Okay, I still 135 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: don't understand the power dynamic of him getting to tell 136 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: her you don't come home and she's left out in 137 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: the cold and not him. But that's a whole other canon. 138 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Worms pick it up, Sheryl McCollum. So she goes to 139 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: the tavern and she stays with co workers and stays 140 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: stay until closing. There is a worker at the tavern 141 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: that needs a ride home, so Jody gives this man 142 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: a ride to his house. He doesn't drive, so she 143 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: takes him. And Jennifer will tell you that's uncharacteristic of her. 144 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: She normally wouldn't do anything like that this night she does. 145 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: Then she makes a call back to the tavern. We 146 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: don't know why or who she spoke to. Then from 147 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: there she goes to a liquor store where she buys 148 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: a six pack of beer. From there, she drives to 149 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: the parking lot of this little strip ball and she 150 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: parts her car. And she makes several other phone calls. 151 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: One is two her best friends who did not answer 152 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: the phone, but her boyfriend did and they talked for 153 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: a few minutes. But she made other calls that were 154 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: not privy to who they were too. But wait a minute, 155 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: when you say she's parting her car, so she's making 156 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: cell phone calls. Correct, Okay, go ahead. But what sticks 157 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: out to me, Nancy, is there are very few people 158 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: that I can call at three in the morning just 159 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: a chit chat. I mean, if my phone rings at three, 160 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: somebody's in major trouble, somebody's in a hospital, somebody's in jail. 161 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason you're calling me at three 162 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: but she made several calls, and of course the police 163 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: have not released who all the calls were two and 164 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: that's one of those things that I think the family 165 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: might even be able to help them with it. They 166 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: would disclose that, But she made like to call sitting there. 167 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: As she's sitting in this parking lot, this gentleman approaches her. 168 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: Jody's driver's window is down, so she's a roll the 169 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: window down to talk to you this person, or it 170 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: was already down for whatever reason. But it was snow 171 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: in that night, so I can't imagine if she's sitting 172 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: there just you know, with the window down in the snow. 173 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: There are six witnesses that see her. There's a restaurant 174 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: across the street that's getting the delivery, and there's other 175 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: people around that are doing jobs. They're watching this. They 176 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: have some exchange at the driver's window. All of a sudden, 177 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: one gunshot rings out and Jody is able to drive 178 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: her vehicle out of the parking lot, across the intersection 179 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: of York Road into another parking area where the witnesses 180 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: are at, and there's like a little embankment where the 181 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: drive goes up and she pulls into another parking lot 182 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: of a tire store. The shooter gets in his car, 183 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: drives and follows her, gets out, goes inside the driver's window. 184 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: The witnesses say he took something. They couldn't tell what 185 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: it was, but he removed something from her car, gets 186 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: back into his car and high tells of that of 187 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: their left. He put her car and park. He put 188 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: her car and cart. They who believe he put her 189 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: harm part. Okay, this is what I want understand, Cheryl. 190 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: With at least six witnesses, why no one can identify 191 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: the shooter Crime stories with Nancy Grace Guys. Jennifer Carrey 192 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: has put up a billboard in the hopes it will 193 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: reach people who do not see the news or TV. 194 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: It's a red billboard and on it there's a photo 195 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: of a stunning young woman is her twin sister, Jody 196 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Lakournew and it reads find my killer, offering on one 197 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollar reward. The tip line four one zero 198 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: eight eight seven two two two two four one zero 199 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: eight eight seven two two two that's Baltimore County Police Department. 200 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: Or you can go to Justice for Jody with the 201 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: number four Justice four Jody dot Com years of anguish 202 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: has led her twin sister Jennifer, to take this major 203 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: step in trying to solve the case. What do we know? 204 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: Listen the grim anniversary for one Maryland family. Twenty four 205 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: years ago, Jody Lecorno was murdered in Baltimore County. Now 206 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: there have been billboards, there's a reward now up to 207 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars, and still no arrest. The nineteen 208 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: ninety six murder of the twenty three year old housing 209 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: student in the drum Cancel Government Center parking lot on 210 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: York Road remains a mystery even tonight, but her twin sister, Jennifer, 211 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: and her mother, nearly eighty years old, having given up, 212 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: She and I went to the Gray Saint today looks 213 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: and my daughter very there. And it's just hard a 214 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: lot because I feel like I'm just going through the 215 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: motions of my life and it's you know, I feel like, 216 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: even after all these years, I truly haven't felt dealt 217 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: with her death. And it's just I don't know that 218 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: I ever will if she won't give up. If you 219 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: have any information, the family has set up a tip line. 220 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: That number is four ten four nine zero five zero 221 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: six nine to Jennie Lacornia Careery. This is Jody's sister. 222 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: What can you tell me about the boyfriend? Did he 223 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: own a gun? I did not know of him to 224 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: own a gun. No, I was unaware that if he 225 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: did or not. What did he do for a living. 226 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: He was a teacher at a private school in Baltimore. 227 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: And what was his demeanor following your twin sister's death? 228 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Very sad and very cleanly to me, you know, I'm 229 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: just curious. I'm very curious about who she was with 230 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: that evening, and obviously no one she could go home with. 231 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: She was out in a parking lot, sitting there, banished 232 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: from her apartment by her boyfriend, just sitting there with 233 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: a six pack. I guess, planning to sit the night 234 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: out in the car at a shopping center where apparently 235 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCalls she felt very comfortable in that spot. I mean, Cheryl, 236 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: have you ever, for whatever reason, just gone and parked 237 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: your car and just sat there and thought. No, I 238 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: have plenty of times, plenty of times just sat there 239 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: and thought, thought, or made phone calls or I worked 240 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: on something, just to be alone and just think. As 241 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, Cheryl, you and I were working 242 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: on a cold case murder yesterday right and after we 243 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: left the homicide coal a division, I had a ton 244 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: of stuff to do, but I ended up going to 245 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: the Twins school early and I sat there and I 246 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: thought about that crime victim and all the various scenarios 247 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: about how her murder could have gone down, like trying 248 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: to put together a Ruby's cube over it over. By 249 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: the time I looked up, over thirty minutes had passed, right, 250 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: and I just was thinking, and I'm wondering, Jinny, what 251 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: was she thinking about as she sat in that car. Well, 252 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: for her, she had terrible anxiety and was literally afraid 253 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: of her own closet. So for her, at a young 254 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: age at that time, for her to go sit in 255 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: a dark parking lot was very un characteristic. I mean, 256 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: that just wasn't something that she would do. And it 257 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: was snowing that night. She was afraid to drive in 258 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: the snow. I mean, she's afraid of everything. So why 259 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have maybe just even just gone home, even 260 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: though he told her not to, or she had likes 261 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: of friends, Why she wouldn't have gone to somebody's house 262 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: is just very odd to us that for her to 263 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: just everything she'd get that night. I mean, she had 264 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: a heart of gold. She would do anything for anyone, 265 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: but to drive the employee home that she didn't know 266 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: he was a janitor. It's just not her that night 267 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: to be doing what she did. Another interesting fact to 268 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCallum. We know that after Jody is shot, and 269 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: I find it very probitive that she shot in the back. 270 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: How was she shot in the back if the guy 271 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: the killer was standing at her driver's window. I believe 272 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: she was, and I think I can prove that she 273 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: was driving away from him. So for whatever reason, something happened. 274 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: He either said something or he brandished the weapons. Because 275 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: witnesses say he's standing at the driver's window, she is 276 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: actually shot through the driver's seat, so he's now behind 277 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: her a little bit. When the bullet enters, it actually 278 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: enters left her right side at a downward angle. So again, 279 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: if she first drove off and he just pulls the 280 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: gun up, it's going to be left. And the car 281 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: was at a four door, it was the back window shattered. Yes, okay, 282 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: so it went through the back window. Okay, now I 283 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: understand much better. I thought he shot through the driver's window, 284 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: and I was trying to positionally figure out how she 285 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: got shot in the back if he was at the 286 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: driver's window, and I assume she was reaching over to 287 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: the passenger side. Now I understand she was driving away. 288 00:18:54,800 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Jennifer Carrey has put up 289 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: a billboard and on it is her twin sister, Jody Lakornu, 290 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: and it reads find my Killer. Twenty three year old 291 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: Jodi Lucornu was shot in the back while she was 292 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: seated in her car at the Drumcastle shopping center. After 293 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: being shot, she managed to drive across York Road to 294 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: another shopping center. And we also know that after she 295 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: shot and drives across the street, her car circles and 296 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: stops at a curb. The man we think the killer, 297 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: watched from his vehicle. He had a vehicle until it 298 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: rolled to a stop between a Boston Chicken and a 299 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: Firestone tire, and he then approached the car, leaned over her, 300 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: put it in part, grabs something from next to her 301 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: on the seat, then the killer drives off. Is the 302 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: killer the one doing all of that? Share girl? Yes, 303 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: he's well. Nobody can identify his car. They know it's 304 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: a white BMW. They know BMW's that's new information to me. 305 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: Right there, white BMW. They not only have the six witnesses, 306 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: they have videotape. They have a description of him, wearing 307 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: a camouflage jacket. He's stocky, he's about five six, about 308 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. They know, they know the description. I 309 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: don't understand why why this has not been solved. Take her. 310 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: Listen to our friend at w j Z CBS thirteen. 311 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: This is Devin Bartolotta. The nightmare for Jody began after 312 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: a night out at the Washington Tavern in the early 313 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: morning hours of March second, nineteen ninety six, just steps 314 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: from the city County line. Police believe Jody was shot 315 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: while sitting in her car in this parking lot. She 316 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: then drove across the street to Your Road Plaza. Her 317 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: killer followed her and then reached into the car. Witnesses 318 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: described the shooter as a blackmail with a stocky build, 319 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: wearing a muflage jacket, but nearly twenty three years later, 320 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: no one knows what he took from inside Jody's car. 321 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: He took off south on Your Road in a white BMW. 322 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: Years after, leads ran dry, maybe money. We'll talk you know, 323 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: to you Jinny Jinnie Lacornew Careery. This is Jody's twin sister. 324 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: What do he believe he took from her car? Well, 325 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: they always, the police always told us that something was 326 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: taken from her car, but wouldn't tell us what it was. 327 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: But then they would say her purse was missing. And 328 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: then Sheryl and I just learned in the last couple 329 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: of weeks at her phone. My parents had bought her 330 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: one of those bag phones because they were worried about 331 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: her living in Baltimore, And so now we learned that 332 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: her phone and her purse were not there. So that's 333 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: a lot for him to take. What is a bag phone, Nancy, 334 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: even the old sail phones that were literally in a 335 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: bag like they were in a little league. Oh my goodness, 336 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: like a big yeah. Everybody in the studio is acting 337 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: it out and gesticulating a big phone about the size 338 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: of what almost like a little lunch poo, like a 339 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: little bag like a pr that's pretty good, sigh. Okay, 340 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: all right, So she had one of those, so that's missing, 341 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: and her pocketbook is missing. What they couldn't trace any 342 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: of that, none of her credit cards, where everywhere credit 343 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: cards ever used? Jenny, I don't know. I mean they 344 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: there's very limited information that we've gotten. And where she 345 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: ended up there was camera there, they did obtain video, 346 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: but where she ended up in a giant parking lot, 347 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: they told us the cameras happened to be down that night. Okay, 348 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: it's just Cheryl, this is just so wrong. Well, I 349 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: don't know if her credit cards were used, her ATMs 350 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: were used, any of her checks were forged. I don't 351 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: know if they tried to trace her cell phone. I 352 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: don't know any of those answers. Why aren't police releasing 353 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: any of that? You know, the boy Scouts could have 354 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: solved her case. I mean, seriously, the way that I've 355 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: seen in the years, everything that I've done looking into 356 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: their investigation, and Boltimore County brags about their clearance rate, 357 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: they have missed so much. They have told me they've 358 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: interviewed people, they haven't. They've contradicted, They've been inappropriate, they've 359 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: been disrespectful, they've been horrible. Who what do you mean inappropriate? 360 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: Disrespect the detective in my communication with him, I mean, 361 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: has he's been inappropriate and him and his bosses, I 362 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: mean they've been I mean, I had their lawyers slammed 363 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: the door, and I had a lawsuit trying to get record. 364 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: Their lawyer slammed the door in my face. They talked 365 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: down to me. It's been horrible. It's been a nightmare. 366 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: When you say inappropriate, what do you mean by that? 367 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: So well? I mean, if you want me to give 368 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: you some of the comments, the detective that's been on 369 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: the case since day one shared with me about having 370 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: a relationship with a sister of a suspect and how 371 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: he was separated from his wife. Just sharing things that 372 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't need to know. Wow, Okay, Cheryl, I don't 373 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: understand what's going on within the payday to police department here, 374 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: and why are they shutting her out? Why is she 375 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: Why is Genie la cornea careery having to take out 376 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: a billboard to try to get her sister's murder sow Cheryl. 377 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: It's worse than that. It's worse than that. She literally 378 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: had to sue the police department to find out how 379 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: her sister died. They would refuse to show her the 380 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: autopsy report. They've refused to tell her who they've talked to, 381 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: who her sister calls anything related to this case. She's 382 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: never seen one shred a paper, one tid bit of 383 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: information from the police department. And I told her I've 384 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: never known of a homicide case where the family was 385 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: not told the manner of death, exactly what happened to her. 386 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to figure out how your lawsuit 387 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: can get answers to Genie La Corneu careery. This is 388 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: Jody's sister. What has become of the lawsuit? Where does 389 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: it stand now? So well, I mean just to tell you, 390 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: my family has put in almost three thou dollars and 391 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: trying to get her records, and we've done seven billboards total. 392 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: I've done one, I did a plea to the governor, 393 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: I did one of the state's attorney. And where it 394 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: stands as we were unable to get anything, and so 395 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: with the lawsuit, and I have a pro bono law 396 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: firm that's come forward to help me. That's basically what 397 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: the lawsuit was. They wanted me there, we were, it 398 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: was clear we weren't getting anywhere and my attourney. They 399 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: basically came up with a confidential agreement which basically was 400 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: nothing that I shut up and they're going to be 401 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: working on the case again. I can't really get into 402 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: the specifics, but that's the gist of it. And so 403 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm we're still where we were twenty three years ago. 404 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. It's put me and my family 405 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: through how and they're still sitting on their asses politicizu 406 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's like they don't want to solve her 407 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: case and and why I don't know. Um. You know, 408 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying everything I can to keep continue to keep 409 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: her story out there too. You know, I've met with 410 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: the Governor's office, I've gone to the County executives office. 411 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: As everybody says they're going to help me, nobody does. Um. 412 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: I can't talk to the police directly because of the 413 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: lawsuit which ended a couple of years ago, and they 414 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: want me you know, I' supposed to be talking to 415 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: their attorney, the one that screamed at me and slammed 416 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: the door in my face because I asked a question. 417 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's it's horrible. I don't understand it, 418 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: does Cheryl McCollum, director of the Coal Case Research Institute. 419 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: What is this Baltimore County PD, what's jurisdiction is this 420 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: and are they that angry? Jenny wants answers. I've never 421 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: seen anything like it, Nancy M. I've contacted the attective myself. 422 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: I told you I had just thirteen questions. He said, 423 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: send them, I'll get them to our PIO and I'll 424 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: ate for He wouldn't answer any of them. And film 425 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: were very simple. Well, if her first taken from the car, 426 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: because I think we can prove that it was, they 427 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: never gave it back to her. The phone missing, so 428 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: obviously those are the two things she grabbed. I mean, 429 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: here's what's astonishing. Can mean that you get to the 430 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: point with a victim of crime that they have to 431 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: sue you for something as simple as the autopicity report 432 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: that anybody that wants an alt talk support can go 433 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: down and get it. The manner of death in Jody's 434 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: case would not hinder this investigation at all. It's not 435 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: like a crime scene where there's some specific signature that 436 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: they're trying to keep from the public because it's part 437 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: of who this person is and they know there's other 438 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: cases like it. They have refused to answer a simple 439 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: questions like Jennifer didn't even know she was shot in 440 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: the back, she assumed it. But there's one crime scene 441 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: photograph they released and I showed her. I said, well, honey, there, 442 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: I said, there's a bullet hole right there in the 443 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: back of the driver's seat. I said, I can tell 444 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: you she was shot in the back. And I said, 445 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: what probably happened. Is it either nick the lung or 446 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: her heart. It might to break to stay a little bit, 447 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: and she had internal believing. But if you can't breathe, 448 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: you do crime stories with Nancy Grace, a woman puts 449 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: up a huge plea offering one hundred thousand dollars reward 450 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: to try and find out who murdered her twin sister 451 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: with me Jinny Lacornew Careeri. In these years that have 452 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: passed since Jody was murdered, they've got surveillance video, although 453 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: they say that snow that evening interfere with them being 454 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: able to see anything. They've got an ID on the car, 455 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: an ID on the purp. Who knows what else they've got. 456 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if he reached into the car, did they 457 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: get a fingerprint? Did he touch anything when he they 458 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: have fingerprints? Hasn't been into aphis I mean you know 459 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: that the national kid in the car. They actually left 460 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: the fingerprinty kid in the car when they returned it 461 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: to my parents, which means that somewhere. You know what, 462 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCallum, it's very hard for me to believe that 463 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: this guy went from zero to one twenty mph in 464 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: one night. What does that say to me? That means 465 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: he's got a record some where. I'd be curious as 466 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: the fingerprints. Were they able to get fingerprints and were 467 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: they plugged into APHIS, the National Data Bank of Fingerprints. 468 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: But question to you, in the years that have passed 469 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: since Jody was murdered, Jenny, how has Jody's murder affected you? 470 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: You know, I think I was just so numb for 471 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: so long, and I couldn't wouldn't let myself feel. I 472 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: just I literally had to just shut it all down. 473 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: It was it was so incredibly painful, and um, I 474 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: mean I was horribly anxious and depressed, and I mean 475 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: I could may even be alone. And you know, I 476 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: moved back home and I couldn't even be alone. I 477 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: was twenty three and I couldn't be alone in a room. 478 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: I would sleep with my mother. I was just terrified 479 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: for years. Yeah, Well, you know what, Jenny, I used 480 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: to sleep with my mom and dad after Keith was murdered. Yeah, 481 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: they would let me get in between him. Oh and 482 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how long I did that because I 483 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: just could not get through the night. So many nights, 484 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: and I do not think that is uncommon, Jenny. These 485 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: years have passed without Jody birthdays, Christmas's weddings. How was 486 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: her murder? And the Thatcher chase has never been solved 487 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: affected you as your life moves forward. Like I said, 488 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't deal with it for the longest time. But 489 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: I feel literally like part of me died that day. 490 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's like you're living one life and then 491 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: it's another life. I mean for years, I feel like 492 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm just going through the motion that I I ended 493 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: up getting married. I didn't want to have a wedding 494 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: because it was just too sad, So my husband and 495 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: I eloped, you know. Then my father, I wanted to 496 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: also mention he was a prosecutor. He prosecuted drug and 497 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: violent crime cases. And my grandfather was many years in 498 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: the FBI under jed Or Hoover. So I mean, we 499 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: have definitely the history of service and so but my 500 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: father became very ill after Jodi died and with non 501 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: Hutchins on Pam Whist, it was like just another really 502 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: really horrible time taking care of him. And and it's 503 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: literally been like in the last couple of years really 504 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: like feeling her death and people would be so worried 505 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: about me because I couldn't maybe like you're not dealing 506 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: with this, and it's been hard. I mean, I you 507 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: talked about depression. I mean I've I've gotten really low. 508 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean I've been extremely depressed, extremely anxious, wanted to die. 509 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's caused horrible battles in my marriage. I mean, 510 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: with my fight for justice, and um, you know, I 511 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: suffer with a terrible eating disorder and that just is horrible, like, um, 512 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, anxiety, and it just it's like I can't 513 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: cope sometimes, and you know, it's like some days I'd 514 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: be like just like going through the motions, you know. 515 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: And Jody always loved bunnies, and it's like every once 516 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: in a while I see a bunny rabbit and I 517 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: feel like it's her, um, like sending me a sign 518 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: or something. Because I have really really struggled, like I said, 519 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: with the depression and like trying to want to keep going, 520 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, and um, you know, I have three children, 521 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: so it's it's really hard, and it's it's hard. I 522 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: mean it's been really hard. I mean day to day. 523 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: My husband, like I said, he he's been supportive, but 524 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: I really like have done a lot of things with 525 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: her case interviews and things, and um, then I feel 526 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: like I feel guilty with my family, like I'm not 527 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: giving them me, you know what I mean. Well, I 528 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: don't know if this would help in any way, But 529 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, victims of violent crime, many of them go 530 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: through this. They have a death wish, they don't want 531 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: to live. Trust me, I understand what you're saying. Every 532 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: word of what you're saying. You have been quoted in 533 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: the past, Jenny as saying that you believe this case 534 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: can be solved. Cheryl McCollum, agree or disagree, Absolutely agree, 535 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: no question about it. And this person who did it 536 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: told people you know as well as I do. They 537 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: would mentioned it, they would brag about it. This person's 538 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: been in and out of jail. Other people know this 539 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: story from the shooter and what you know Jennifer's doing 540 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: is so amazing And I want to brag on a 541 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: one second. As you know, May the corn sisters extraordinarily 542 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: close to all four of them. You have a sister 543 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: that you're extraordinarily close to, and I know after Keith's 544 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: murder you would even and stayed with her, and she 545 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: helped you get through that awful time. I went to 546 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: Baltimore to walk the crime scene and Jennifer met me 547 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: there because you know, I'm visual. I want to see 548 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: it and understand it. And we go into this little 549 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: coffee shop. Keep in mind, she's got these billboards up. 550 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,479 Speaker 1: She's doing major media, she's doing Nancy Grace, she's working 551 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: with Lester, whole different people. She goes into the coffee shop, 552 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: keep girl behind this counter, and she says, hey, have 553 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: you seen my sisters billboard? Please on your break go 554 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 1: look at it. Nancy. It took all I could do 555 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: and not this to heart, literally crying in that coffee shop, 556 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: thinking here, this poor woman is literally going person the 557 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: person the person. Forget the Nancy Graces and the Lester 558 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: holds in the billboards. She is going to people individually 559 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: to try to make sure they know about Jody and 560 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: what happened to her. And Matt just said so much 561 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: to me about her heart and the read and she's 562 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: really doing this in the power and that sister bond 563 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: that you just cannot deny. So I wanted to say 564 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: that about her, and I also wanted to say personally 565 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: again to you and Lee Egan Nancy, what y'all are 566 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: doing and what you've already done for her. I will 567 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: tell you that there has been a small victory Jennifer. 568 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: You want to tell her. Yeah, you were able to 569 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: get Fivener. Thank you. We did get the autopsy report. 570 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for you, guy. You've really just moved me to 571 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: tears because you know, I don't know what world it 572 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: is that it is a victory that you get your 573 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: sister's autopsy report, but the reality is it is a victory. Guys. 574 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: If you can help us, please call one eight six 575 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: six seven to five six two five eight seven. Please 576 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: help us catch this beautiful young girl, Jennie Lacordiu's killer. 577 00:35:54,719 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 1: Please give her twin sister Jenny some peace. See Grace 578 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: Crime story. Signing off, goodbye, h