1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hello everybody, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: We're reunited. Bob, We're back, AFO G's are back. 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Reunited, and it feels so good. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: I love missed you, t I missed you, Tea Bone. 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 4: I mean right, I was so sad. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: I kept seeing all the social media posts that. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, I know it started when I actually started 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: the week before though, when I went to Dallas. I 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: think you had to do three or four interviews without me. 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: I missed I missed Marion Jones, I missed the other 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: two d s. 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 4: H miss Rudy and Billy. 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: You missed my recap with Christy. You have been a 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: traveling fool. 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: I know, I know. 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 4: All of them were amazing. 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Honestly, I had such good conversations with everybody. I mean 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: it's no shock, like I love all of the cast, 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: members of the cast, recruits on this season and of 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Special Forces, and it was just it's been so fun 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: to talk to everybody. So I'm so glad that you 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: actually get to be a part of this one finally 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: one of them. 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 5: I know me too. 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: And so let's recap now, so we know every Let's 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: go through everyone that's left the show. 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: So far, so we've lot Stephen Baldwin, Steve Niece, Richards, Denise, 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: then of course yours truly. Yeah. 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: Then after that, Jordan. 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: Jordan, Nathan Adrian and. 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 4: Marion Jones, Marion Landon, Landon. 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: A lot of those are all. A lot of those 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: were medical. 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: Too, Yes, a lot of them were medical. And Golden 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: is still in it. 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: Golden still in it. 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Yep, So let's bring him in. I'm so excited, let's. 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: Bring him in. I cannot wait. 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: I have not seen Golden Tate in quite some time, 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: but I'm a big fan for many reasons, and I'm 41 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: excited to touch base them and share those. 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: So hello, well it's up going to the third Hello. Hello, 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: how are we doing, Gang? Oh we're doing great, man, 44 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: We're doing great. Great to have you on the show. 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. 46 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 5: My pleasure. 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: I was actually just watching your your podcast with Nathan, 48 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: and you got me laughing. 49 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 50 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 5: It was great. 51 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: But I love that you guys both agreed that it's 52 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: time to get everyone of every ethnicity in the pool. 53 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: Amen of that, and I couldn't agree with you more. 54 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it was. It was a great topic 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: to have with him, though, he's such a thoughtful guy. Now, yeah, 56 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: I think. 57 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 6: To spend enough time with Nathan, but right away, like 58 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 6: we just kind of hit it off, and like I 59 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 6: spent a lot of time with him in the vans 60 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 6: going to the different missions, and I just really enjoyed 61 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 6: like picking his brain. We're kind of in a similar 62 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 6: space as far as like new babies into our family, 63 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 6: trying to figure out the dynamic of how to be 64 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 6: a good dad, but also our sport is kind of done, 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 6: and trying to figure out how to manage dad and 66 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 6: find a new purpose. And so we had some really 67 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 6: good conversations and he's just a sweet, sweet, big teddy 68 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 6: bear that was always happy. 69 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems like a golden Before we get two 70 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: into stuff, I want to I want to remind you 71 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: how we've met. So I first met you with Scott 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: Fitter many years ago when you were at the Seahawks. 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: He's one of my best friends and he was like 74 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: the director of player personnel. And then then we met 75 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: Jermaine introduced us to play with my buddy Dave Ross. 76 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: We played golf a couple times, but Dave, do you 77 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: remember Dave? 78 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 79 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm usually really really really good 80 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 6: at with faces in this case, so I logged us like, man, 81 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 6: that name, I know that name from somewhere. 82 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 83 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: He was like he owned an insurance company out in Seattle, 84 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: and was like mutual friends. And we ended up playing 85 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: golf a few times, and man, you are a stud 86 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: on the course. When they told me that, they're like, yeah, 87 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: well Golden wants to you know, wait a little bit 88 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: before we do the inter because he's finished up around 89 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: the golf. 90 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, not a surprise, man, the guy could crush it. 91 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: And then the. 92 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: Last today, the last time we met, I'm going to 93 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: show you some I have a three year old and 94 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: from watching videos. 95 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: The last time we met was when you. 96 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: Were in Detroit, and get what my three year old's 97 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: jersey is. 98 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: Stark. 99 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 5: This isn't that crazy? That makes me so happy. 100 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: I mean it's honestly, it's so funny. I was like, 101 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: he's like, I love going. I'm like, how do you? 102 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: I mean, okay, you know, but I guess it's just 103 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: some like watching videos and watching old stuff. 104 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: And you know, because I used to do a lot 105 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: with the Lions franchise when and now, of course this 106 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: year you were one of the voices of the Lions 107 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: in the preseason too. 108 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 109 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, so did some work with them and had some fun. 110 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 6: But man, calling them games is hard. It's not hard 111 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 6: because I'm talking about football, not football at the back 112 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 6: of my hand, but talking football and trying to articulate it. 113 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 6: So I'm not talking down to people, but all so 114 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 6: articulated where they can understand what's going on is like 115 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 6: a gift in it and so like you listen to 116 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 6: try Eightman and. 117 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 5: Joe Buck and they make it sound easy, but it's 118 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 5: it's a true gift. 119 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 6: And so I'm been in the in the lab trying 120 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 6: to grind it and figure out where in that space. 121 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: You know, who I love is that. 122 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's gotta be tough, but I 123 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: think I think someone who really made a quick transition 124 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: to that is Tony Romo, like from a from a 125 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: not Some people don't like the. 126 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: Intricacies of the game that he gets into, but. 127 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: I really do, you know, because I played at Michigan 128 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: State years ago, and so in my mind it's like 129 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: taking me back to the to what could have been 130 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, yeah, much like this show. 131 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, much like this show could have been. Talk 132 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: I talk about this all the time. I'm always like, man, 133 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: this is the show I wish I could have been on. 134 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: You know. She's like, well, they might still call you. 135 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but after watching it, I don't think 136 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: I could do it. 137 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 138 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 5: Where do we even start? 139 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, Well, actually I'd love to start with 140 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: just how you got approached, how you decided to actually 141 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: do it. 142 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 143 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 6: So I'm actually out in Bend, Oregon at the time, 144 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 6: and I met a wedding with my wife one of 145 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 6: her best friends. It's getting married out in Oregon, and 146 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 6: I get this text message and hey, would you be 147 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: interested in being on Special Forces World Sevice Tests. At 148 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 6: this point, I hadn't even really heard of the show, 149 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 6: had definitely hadn't watched it, and so I was like, oh, yeah, 150 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 6: you know whatever, So kind of forgot about it. And 151 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 6: then a day later while I was still in the 152 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 6: organ and say, hey, just you know the excellent emphasizing 153 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 6: the message like hey, makes you've seen this and stuff 154 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 6: like whatever. So I ended up like watching a few 155 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 6: like seconds like teasers and trailers, and half an episode. 156 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, Okay, I feel like I could 157 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 6: do this. This could be fun, is what I think. 158 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 6: I said fun. Uh, you know, we negotiated back and forth, 159 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 6: and eventually I had my mind. I said that I 160 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 6: was going to do it as a nice, fun, little challenge, 161 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 6: and then I dove right into it. 162 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 5: Now, I only had about three weeks before it was. 163 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 6: Time to like, you know, go to London and Wales, 164 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 6: so I didn't have much time to prepare. 165 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 5: And boy was it was a rude awakening. When I 166 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 5: got there. I showed up thinking this is gonna be fun. 167 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 6: And from the very first moment they took those potato 168 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 6: bags off our faces in the middle of water. Stuff 169 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 6: got real quick. I got PTSD almost like thinking about 170 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 6: some of the stuff. But you know, it was kind 171 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 6: of like anything, you know, I had his ups and downs. 172 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 6: I would definitely say it was the hardest thing I've 173 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 6: ever done because it was mentally, emotionally and physically very 174 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 6: very tough. And in most jobs in the world, physically 175 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 6: you might have a tough day maybe emotionally, but mentally 176 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 6: you're probably okay or but you never have like all 177 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 6: all three of them boxes get checked out daily, and 178 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 6: they found a way to check those box every single day, 179 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 6: and it was just kind of wearing you down, and 180 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 6: like the psychology of it. They were so they were 181 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 6: really good, like at placing different things in our minds, 182 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 6: Like day seven is when they are eight or whatever. 183 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: They have us. They show us videos of our family. 184 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 6: If they were to showed these videos on day one 185 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 6: or two, we probably yeah, okay, whatever. But at day 186 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 6: seven where we were thinking, like I'm looking for a reason, 187 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 6: like to get out of here because it's hard, and 188 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 6: we know it's just going to get harder and harder 189 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 6: each day. 190 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 5: So you know, for me, those three things just made 191 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 5: it tough. 192 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's tough. I mean the same thing I've 193 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: said it over and over again, hardest thing I've ever done. 194 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: I noticed in your pre interview. So when we're in 195 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: London before the show starts, we do all the interview 196 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: stuff and they ask us a billion questions of like 197 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: what if this and what if that? 198 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: And what if this? 199 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: Right? 200 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: But what I noticed in your pre interview I kept 201 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: getting drawn to one of your necklaces that was around 202 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: your neck and it looked like it was maybe made 203 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: my little teeny tiny hands. Can you tell us the 204 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: story of your maybe necklaces, but especially that necklace? 205 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, My daughter London, who is now seventh six at 206 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 6: the time, knew we were getting ready for this big trip, 207 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 6: but me and my wife kind of censored her from 208 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 6: what was going on because we started to explain it 209 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 6: to her, like Dad's about to go to the show, 210 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 6: and right away she was like she saw like ten 211 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 6: seconds of was like. 212 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 5: No, Daddy, I don't want you to go, Like you 213 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 5: can't go like that, just don't go and tell them 214 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 5: you can't do it, say you're hurt. I was like, 215 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 5: oh no, no, make it back. 216 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 6: And then the data I left, she gave me this 217 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 6: necklace that I put on as I'm like in the 218 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 6: car head to the airport and I'm already like getting 219 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 6: them over like man, because I just don't want to 220 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 6: leave my babies, but also not have any contact with 221 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 6: any of my family for however long I guess. Now 222 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 6: we know that I was there for at least ten days. 223 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 6: So I was kind of nervous, frightened, had a little anxiety, 224 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 6: and so I put that necklace on and it was 225 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 6: weird because it gave me comfort. Whenever I would look 226 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 6: myself in the mirror, I would see, you know, in 227 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 6: my reflection, I would see my family who I was representing, 228 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 6: and I had a real deep pride to like make 229 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 6: them proud, And so it was a good reminder, like 230 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 6: when things got tough, like to just look down and 231 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 6: know that my little ones who loved me for just me, 232 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 6: they don't really care of the outcome. They just care 233 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 6: that Daddy comes back home and gives me a big hug. 234 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 6: And so it motivated me. 235 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: I love that I figured that one of your one 236 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: of your kiddo's made that necklace. I'm like, I just 237 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: have to hear the story, and I do have to 238 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: say if she listens, or if you want to, just 239 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: tell her and tell your wife, tell your kids. First 240 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: of all, I'd love to meet them at some point someday, 241 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: but please tell them from me that for sure, they 242 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: should be so proud of you. I mean, obviously it 243 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: speaks for itself, like you lasted as long as you've 244 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: lasted so far, and you've done such amazing things, but 245 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: the fact that you really truly kind of took care 246 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: of people like me who I just I just couldn't 247 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: do stuff. I just couldn't carry my pack, and I 248 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: couldn't run, and I couldn't whatever all these things and 249 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: instead of just you know, forging towards the front and 250 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: focusing and keeping your head down. You were always looking 251 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: out for the little people like me. So thank you 252 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart. I like one of 253 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: the main reasons I wanted to have you on the podcast. 254 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: And I know I've said this in person, but I 255 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: want the world to know that you just have such 256 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: a huge heart. And I don't know if I could 257 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: have I don't know if I would have stayed for 258 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: the just two short days that I stayed had you 259 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: not been there. So thank you, and they should for 260 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: sure be so proud of you. 261 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, thank you so much. 262 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 6: I know we I really enjoyed my time with you 263 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 6: and everyone else, and I was able to acknowledge that, 264 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 6: you know, maybe I'm going to be physically stronger than 265 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 6: other people, and I always felt like I had more 266 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 6: in the tank and went I went into this like 267 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 6: with a mindset of like, hey, look, there's no like 268 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 6: clear winner in this, Like there's not like we make 269 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 6: it to the end, we get like this huge big 270 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 6: paycheck or anything. 271 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 5: It's just like you pass it or you don't. 272 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 6: And like my goal going into is like, hey, I 273 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 6: want everyone to go as far as they possibly can. 274 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 6: So if I can provide any physical help or mental 275 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 6: emotional support, I'm going to do that. And because it 276 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 6: was always better with us and numbers and so like it. Truly, 277 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 6: it really hurt when, you know, when you finally tapped out. 278 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 6: But I was really proud that you. You know, each 279 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 6: and every mission, you fought as long and as much 280 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 6: as you could. And I was really proud because you 281 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 6: could see, you could see and feel that Trista was 282 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: given everything she had even when she didn't have anything left, 283 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 6: and she was trying her best, and you know, eventually 284 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 6: you walked away, and it made me. 285 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: Sad, oh golden that morning. I feel like had it 286 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: not been so chaotic that morning, I would have stayed. 287 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: Like. 288 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: It was just so chaotic with the like gunshots or 289 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: whatever was in the trash can. It was just so 290 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: stressful and I was like, I just my body told 291 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: me last night that I it was at its limit, 292 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: and now mentally I'm like, I just can't do it. 293 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: And you looked at me and you said, I told you. 294 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: I pulled you aside and I said, I'm going to go, 295 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: said are you sure? I said, I was like yeah, 296 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: I just don't want to be a burden anymore. And 297 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: I feel like you've given enough of your time to 298 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: me that I want you to focus on your your journey. 299 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I was ready. 300 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 5: We had hey, I was read. 301 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 6: I was prepared to help you through the next day 302 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 6: and the next days as much as I possibly could. 303 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 6: But you know, I know, I know, And you made 304 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 6: it back safely and healthy and hopefully mentally in a 305 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 6: good in a decent place. We definitely missed you. But hey, 306 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 6: look I get it. You know that that one song 307 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 6: R Kelly song that we don't really want to use 308 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 6: his name too much, but you know that song. 309 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 5: My mind is telling me no, but my body, my 310 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 5: body tell me that's how it was on that it 311 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 5: was on mount a few times, like I can, like, god, Lee, 312 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 5: I don't know if I can do this. 313 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Okay. 314 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: So I also want to draw attention to one thing 315 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: that I really noticed watching the last episode, and that was, 316 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, when we got to the bridge the first day, 317 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: the bucks were bad, but they were nothing like when 318 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: you guys got back to the bridge to do the 319 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: breakman thing. Was it so hard to deal with that? Like, 320 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: how did you deal with it. Was it something that 321 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: was a problem and they just didn't show you guys 322 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: dealing with that because I was like, holy crap, they 323 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: are swarming around Billy and anyone who was down waiting 324 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: to be the brakeman or whatever. 325 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was gnarly. 326 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 6: It was so gnarly both times when we did the jump, 327 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 6: but also the Brakeman and none stop just smacking your face, 328 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 6: swatting them away for several hours, and you were like 329 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 6: hoping that a breeze would come to just let them go. 330 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 5: Somewhere else, but they just kept picking at you. 331 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 6: And I remember on the Brakeman when we got back 332 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 6: to Billy who was at the bottom, and I kept 333 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 6: like trying to get him out of here, get him 334 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 6: out of here. 335 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 5: He's like, what are you scared of? They're just bugs. 336 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 6: I'm like, man, these little things bite and then these 337 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 6: little red marks. Actually, but you know, stop swatting your face. 338 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 6: I I wasn't get in trouble for visiting again and 339 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 6: get stuck in it again, which I was pissed off 340 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 6: that they did not show that an episode. 341 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: No, okay, you need to tell everybody about it. Please 342 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: tell everybody about it right now? 343 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 6: Okay, so day one, Day one, we finally get back 344 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 6: to the living quarters after getting thrown off a boat 345 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 6: and having to swim like a triathlon or something, we hike. 346 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 6: We finally get back and they he Billy makes a 347 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 6: comment of like something that we're doing wrong, and I 348 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 6: just like quickly like kind of pulled my shirt down 349 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 6: to make sure I'm like a uniform. 350 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: And they saying, you know, oh, no, stop feting. 351 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: You will be punished for that. 352 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 5: And I'm like, dang, the worst. 353 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 6: You don't want to hear, and everyone like straightens up, 354 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 6: but I get called out, and then eventually everyone goes 355 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 6: to the to see the living quarters, the mess hall, 356 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 6: the showers, the toilets and whatnot. Number nine come with 357 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 6: me and they put me in what we called as 358 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 6: a group, the chicken coop. Okay, the chicken coop is 359 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 6: probably what two feet underground and probably two feet above ground, 360 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 6: so it's high enough where you know, I can't I 361 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 6: can stand, but I can't like fully stand up like 362 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 6: I have to, Like I don't know, it's like a 363 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 6: child's pose, like when a cowld like sits and he's 364 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 6: pooping his diaper or something like that. 365 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 5: There like mites while everyone's. 366 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 6: Like just jogging around camp, and it became kind of 367 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 6: like a fun little game for me. I was like, man, 368 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 6: maybe I get one of the recruits to look over 369 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 6: here and like me like acting like a chicken. 370 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 5: And I got a few people. 371 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 6: I remember Brody like looked over and he saw me 372 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 6: being goofy and but so he didn't want to last, 373 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 6: so he was like look straight ahead again, but smirked. 374 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 5: And I think I got a few other people. 375 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 6: But I was a dang so I get in trouble 376 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 6: as soon as we get on to camp. 377 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 5: But they didn't show that they didn't. 378 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: I actually pointed it out to Ryan. 379 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: I was like, that is the chicken coop and where 380 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: Golden had had to squat, gosh, not sit. 381 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: Like, not be on your knees. 382 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: You were like you described it perfectly with a kid 383 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: pooping in their diaper or something. 384 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 6: I hadn't hurt it, buddy, I played football for twelve years. Okay, 385 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 6: these knees and ankles and toes have been through some 386 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 6: things putting on them boots and then get stuck in 387 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 6: a chicken coop that was brutal. 388 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 389 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: And not only were you hiking, but you were carrying 390 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: somebody else's pack and yeah, you had a pack. 391 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: In the front of the pack in the back. Yeah 392 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: eighty pounds. 393 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 6: Even I guess, but I mean I could not believe, 394 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 6: like that's how we started at all. 395 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 5: Man. I was like, dang, that is crazy. 396 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I was going to say, you know, one of 397 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: the things I thought was that we were talking about, 398 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: like even the episode with Trista, the two episodes of Trista, 399 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: I was so emotional. 400 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 3: I'm like text her on the side. 401 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm just so proud of you guys, 402 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: you know, And I feel like, even though we've only 403 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: met a few times, always felt like I knew you. 404 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: But I will say this, I think one of the 405 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: things that this show has done for a lot of 406 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: the people that've been on the show, not that they 407 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: need it, is that it's really highlighted things that people 408 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't know about you otherwise. Right, Like everyone knows you've 409 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: been a standout since high school, college, pros, the whole bit, 410 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: but they didn't know that you had the ability to 411 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: really kind of go deep, you know, and you did. 412 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: I was like, like, you and Brody in particular, were 413 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: two people that I've known for years from different things 414 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: and watching guys on that show, I was like, oh 415 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: my god, I feel like I just you know, and 416 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: you were right, like the different levels that they go 417 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: to with you guys, and how they get you there, 418 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: but you weren't afraid to go there emotionally, which I 419 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: thought was pretty crazy. 420 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, and man, well, thank you so much 421 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 6: for noticing that. 422 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of went into it, like. 423 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 6: My foundations work closely with our military veterans. I've always 424 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 6: thought our military veterans are like real life superheroes. Yeah, 425 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 6: I understand the sacrifices that they've given for our freedom. 426 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 6: I've visited Frankfurt, Germany, and Kuwait on the USO tour. 427 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 6: I've always paid homage, and the NFL has like months 428 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 6: dedicated to our military, and I've spent a lot of 429 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 6: time with them and heard stories, but I've never had 430 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 6: a chance to actually live it. And we probably only 431 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 6: lived a tenth of what they actually go through. And 432 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 6: all six recruits, we knew that we were going back 433 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 6: home at some point, and we knew it was going 434 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 6: to be within right now or in ten days. And 435 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 6: that's not the luxury that they have. Like they were 436 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 6: out there not hoping that they were going to go home. 437 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 6: And so I guess the point I was making is 438 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 6: that I took myself mentally to a place that in 439 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 6: every scenario I was going to try to envision that 440 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 6: I was a man or a woman serving our country 441 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 6: and what it was actually going to be like, because 442 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 6: I really wasn't. 443 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 5: Worried about dying. I really wasn't worried. 444 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 6: You know, I don't like heights, but I know that 445 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 6: I was not going to die on jumping off a bridge. 446 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: Was. 447 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 5: I wasn't claustrophobic. I do hate the water. 448 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 6: They didn't tell about it to me that I wasn't 449 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 6: really scared of like any of that, And so I 450 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 6: was able to take myself before, before, after during every mission, like, man, 451 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 6: what would a soldier actually be thinking right now? And 452 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 6: just those thoughts kind of made me like get really 453 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 6: emotional and tear up. 454 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're you were compassionate to everybody. It was. 455 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: It was It was really cool, man, I will say, 456 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: you know, being I think Q when we had Q 457 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: on we talked about this a little bit trist that 458 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: was you know, you you get used to watching everybody 459 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: from Afar, right especially with NFL players and stuff, and 460 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: you think you know them right, like you think you 461 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: know I would think your touchdown dances and you know 462 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: your posts. 463 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, yeah, he's a funny guy. He 464 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: does this and this. 465 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: But then when you see in those moments and it's like, 466 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: you know, oh that's right, they're just a person just 467 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: like me. They're going through the same emotions I'm going through, 468 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: you know, or whatever. And it was really I thought 469 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: it was a really great thing for you, especially the 470 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: way that you embrace that side of it, because I'm 471 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: sure that's that's got to be something that challenges a 472 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: lot of the professional athletes to go on there. 473 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, so thanks for seeing that. 474 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, man. 475 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: I was proud for you, like like I knew, like 476 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: I like I knew yet, but yeah, but Trista, Man, 477 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: I still say this this day, Trista on that show 478 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: to see one of like someone who I've known now 479 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: for twenty years very closely, to go through the things 480 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: that she went through and just to push to that 481 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: next level. 482 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: I was impressed, Trista. I really was. You know, I 483 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: think I've told you, but it really is the truth. 484 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: You did great. 485 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. I mean, I feel like the two days 486 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: is nothing. And actually I don't know your you know, 487 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: we have to wait and find out how long you last, 488 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: if you last until the very end, golden. But for me, 489 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, coming home, I was at you, you know, 490 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: I was at such a peaceful place when I left. 491 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: I was like, it's the right time. But I have 492 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: thought like maybe I should have pushed through and kept going, 493 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, and then there's this battle, you know, back 494 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: and forth. But gosh, the two days is nothing, I 495 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: feel like compared to what you guys have done, the 496 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: being freaking. 497 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: Buried all lit b. 498 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, so I don't know what if you've had 499 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: any experience with reality television, but obviously I have a 500 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: little bit for you know, twenty two whatever years, and 501 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: I know that producers are going to ask you. If 502 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: they ask you certain questions and you answer them, they're 503 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: going to use it against you, you know, against you. 504 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: So when they asked what our biggest fears were, I 505 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: did not mention being buried alive was one of them. 506 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: And I can't just because I knew, okay, maybe they'll 507 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: take that and run with it and I'll actually be 508 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: buried alive. And I didn't want to give them information, 509 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: and you guys actually did it. I think that would 510 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: be my worst fear. Was that one of the worst 511 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: tasks for you? Or were you able to just mentally 512 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: like zen out and deal with it. 513 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 5: So when we showed up to this I can't remember, 514 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 5: did were you there for the buds training? 515 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, So we showed up to that 516 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 6: same location of the bus training. My heart stopped. 517 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 5: I was like no, no, no, no, no, not long again, 518 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 5: not longer again. Please, I can't, I can't do this again. 519 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 6: And then it was like, almost like when I heard 520 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 6: when I figured out we were getting buried, it was 521 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 6: kind of like, Okay, I can deal with this, which 522 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 6: was really yeah, because it was like physically, you know, 523 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 6: I'm not going to get crushed now. What was hard 524 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 6: for me again was like once we got in that 525 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 6: box and I understand, I tried to take to like 526 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 6: understand the magnitude of what was actually happening in real 527 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 6: life for men and women, and like that's what kind 528 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 6: of like got me and crushed me, like because like 529 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 6: I said, I wasn't claustrophobic, and you know, I didn't 530 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 6: know if we're going to be in there for thirty 531 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 6: minutes or three hours, it really didn't matter. But it 532 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 6: took me to a place of thinking, like, like, as humans, 533 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 6: we make so many mistakes throughout the day, and you know, 534 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 6: in life, but hours a lot of there's not really 535 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 6: a consequence for our mistake, right, and our men and 536 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 6: women who serve our country and these missions A minor 537 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 6: a minor mistake such as not half your button button 538 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 6: or a shoelace not tied can result in your best 539 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 6: friend being killed at war, and like thinking about thinking about, like, man, 540 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 6: if something, if I were to make, you know, skip 541 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 6: a step in whatever the situation was the result of, 542 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 6: like me having a give American flag to my best 543 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 6: friend's wife and say, hi, I'm sorry that your husband 544 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 6: and also the father and children is no longer coming 545 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 6: home because of the silly, careless mistake I made. And 546 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 6: so I was able to like sit there and think 547 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 6: about that, like how many times has it actually happened? 548 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 5: At war? 549 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 6: But it's also made me respect my military is so 550 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 6: much more of the elite discipline that you have to have, 551 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 6: and like, along with that discipline comes like the focused 552 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 6: part of it, controlling your heart rate and very chaotic situations, 553 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 6: and it's it's not something that's easy to do. You 554 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 6: have to train yourself. And so like that's another reason 555 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 6: like I admire them so much. So like kind of 556 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 6: what you're saying, Like it wasn't really the burier being 557 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 6: buried apart, it was like the thought of, like how 558 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 6: we got to this point. 559 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: That's a great perspective. Lore able to tap into that? 560 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: Like is that something that you feel like you've been 561 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: able to tap into in normal life? Like getting back 562 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: to your real life? Because for me, you know, one 563 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: thing I took away, one major thing I took away 564 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: from the show is just that I am really lucky. 565 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: You know, I live in a country where we have 566 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: soldiers who fight for our freedom and I have, you know, 567 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: a beautiful family and so many blessings. And I left 568 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: with that kind of perspective, and you know, in times 569 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: that I get frustrated, I try to remember that, you know, 570 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: and tap into that. Is that something that you feel 571 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: the same, you know, did you take away the same 572 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: kind of things? And are you able to use that 573 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: perspective in your daily life? 574 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? 575 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 6: You know, it's a space that I'm unfamiliar with, and 576 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 6: at times uncomfortable. I grew up just a little bit different, 577 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 6: and I almost was taught not to feel. 578 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 5: And so that's where sports placed such a big part 579 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 5: in my life. Is that I didn't grow up the 580 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 5: most fortunate and having dinner every night and having all 581 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 5: the necessities of to be successful in life were at school. 582 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 5: But sports is where I went to feel like I 583 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 5: was okay and that was good enough. And so you know, 584 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 5: I wouldn't change any of that, you know, to the 585 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 5: journey of where I got, but it kind of taught me, like, 586 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 5: you know, perspective is everything, kind of to your question, 587 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 5: is I was taught not to feel, And so I've 588 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 5: been working on that through through professionals of like flocking 589 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 5: into my emotions and understanding like my childhood to how 590 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 5: I got to this point and being you know, more 591 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 5: compassionate because I feel like whenever things would go away 592 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 5: in life, I would just flip the switch off and 593 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 5: try to ignore the emotion, ignore the feelings, and I 594 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 5: would just run away from it and go straight to 595 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 5: like a sports field. It even happens now, like whenever 596 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 5: I get angry at my kids or me and my 597 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 5: wife have a disagreement, instead of like talking about it 598 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 5: and working through it. I run away from it and 599 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 5: I go play a sport or I'm a thirty six 600 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 5: year old that goes and plays Call of Duty or something. 601 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 6: I just kind of avoid those feelings. I've been working 602 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 6: on just trying to like be okay with these feelings. 603 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 5: Likes. My feelings are my feelings. 604 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 6: I own those for the rest of the time, and 605 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 6: it's okay if I feel a certain way, even though 606 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 6: maybe I shouldn't feel that way, but that's my feelings. 607 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 6: And so acknowledging that is something I went into this 608 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 6: wanting to pay a lot of attention to. 609 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 5: And also perspective. 610 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 6: I think perspective is so key just in life, and 611 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 6: I think it's something that we all need to focus 612 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 6: a little bit more on, because, look, the truth matters. 613 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 6: I can be living in the middle of North Dakota 614 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 6: and I can personally think it is the greatest place 615 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 6: on the entire planet. 616 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 5: But I can also, in the same sense. 617 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 6: Probably make it make it seem like it's the worst 618 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 6: place on the entire planet. 619 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 5: So it's just how do you think about it? How 620 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 5: do you think about it? 621 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 6: Like being on Special Forces made me really think about 622 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 6: like that what am I really complaining about in life? 623 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 6: Like what really truly matters and what doesn't truly matter? 624 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 6: And like I'm cheating myself If I'm not gonna remember 625 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 6: what was going with like while I was mad next week, 626 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 6: then I need to drop it. And it's hard to 627 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 6: do at times, and so like just kind of you know, 628 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 6: I could have very easily felt sorry for myself, but 629 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 6: instead I said, you know what, instead of feeling sorry 630 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 6: for myself, I'm gonna I know that there's someone who 631 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 6: has it way worse than I am than I do. 632 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 6: In converse, I can probably make an excuse for there's 633 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 6: someone who has it way better than me. But my 634 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 6: cards are my cards, and it's like what I do 635 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 6: with it moving forward. And so I was able to 636 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 6: like go into this thing like with kind. 637 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 5: Of like a. 638 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 6: Like a very broad plan and perspective on it, and 639 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 6: kind of I was able to hang on to it 640 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 6: and kind of focus on those few little pillars. 641 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: It almost seems like you made a spiritual journey out 642 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: of it too, you know, like I know you were 643 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: keeping a journal and you know you were doing things 644 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: like that which would really keep you in touch with 645 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: those feelings. So you know, that's that's kind of that's 646 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: huge man, to be able to go through that, especially 647 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: you know where you're at with your life. Like you know, 648 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: you were pretty open in the mirror room talking to 649 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: the guys like I'm just trying to figure out what's next, 650 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: you know, And that's a hard thing for a man 651 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: to say, right that you don't know what's next, especially 652 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: with all the success you've had. So I can imagine 653 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: it's got to you know, it's got to really kind 654 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: of hit a nerve. Did you have you gone back 655 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: and looked at any of the of the journal entries 656 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: that you made while you were on the show, and 657 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: have you have they resonated with you at all? 658 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 659 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 6: I read them at the reunion out in LA and 660 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 6: then I I actually keep them in my backpack and 661 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 6: I looked at them from time to time just to 662 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 6: refer to. You know, over time, you just forget details 663 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 6: unless you're telling me every day. So I've forgotten a 664 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 6: few little things and they refer back to it. I'm like, 665 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 6: oh my gosh, Like I giggle, you know, listening to 666 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 6: the theme or the note of the day that I made, 667 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 6: and you know, like kind of like you like you said, like, yeah, 668 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 6: it was. I was very spiritual with it, and I 669 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 6: think I think that's what we as people need to 670 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 6: kind of lean in on a little bit more. I 671 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 6: think we get caught up thinking we need to we can, 672 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 6: and we need to fix every single problem. But the 673 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 6: God that I serve wants us to lean on him 674 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 6: at our weakest moments and let him do the work. 675 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 6: And I promise that if that, if I could just 676 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 6: trust in God's plan and not my own plan, I'm 677 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 6: going to come out of this much more stronger, with 678 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 6: greater perspective, a humble heart, a serving heart, more wisdom, 679 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 6: and a better understanding on what truly matters. 680 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 5: And so trying to like keep that theme. 681 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 6: In my mind when I am being pulled by the 682 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 6: enemy to be selfish or to say something that's not factual, 683 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 6: or talk about someone or just act in a not 684 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 6: good way, I just have to remember that and also remember, like, man, 685 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 6: I serve a God that gave it all up for 686 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 6: me and said, being able to like remind myself and 687 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 6: not feel sorry for myself has kind of helped me 688 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 6: and it just makes my problems feel small. And although 689 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 6: these problems are big in this moment, but in the 690 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 6: grand scheme of things, it's really it doesn't matter. And 691 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 6: to people out there that are going through stuff, it's 692 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 6: okay to go through stuff, and there's someone else's going 693 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 6: through stuff. So find you someone that you can talk to, 694 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 6: that you trust and can and can work out of 695 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 6: this this right. But more importantly, like lean on God, 696 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 6: like God has got you, and that we have a 697 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 6: God that's so much bigger than anything we can even 698 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 6: understand and and do my trials, if we just seek 699 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 6: to be closer to our God, I promise you we're 700 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 6: going to come back out of it and be strong longer. 701 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 6: And so sorry to turn this into like a church service, no. 702 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 3: Truth, Yeah that's what happens. 703 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 2: I mean, man, you think about it that way, everyone 704 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: that goes through this show, especially if they come through 705 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: with that kind of perspective, Golden, I mean, it'd be 706 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: a whole different. 707 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 3: World, buddy, I mean, you know, it really would. 708 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: I mean, people going through this, I mean it's like 709 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: it really is a challenge for everyone, and it's a shame. 710 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: It's only what thirteen people or sixteen people or how 711 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 2: many people started the season, I can't remember, Yeah, sixteen people. 712 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: So it's shame they don't do it for you know, 713 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: a whole lot more, because I think we could all 714 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: use it. 715 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 3: You know, it's nice to hear you say that. 716 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 6: It was really good that this show, like I think 717 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 6: to our kids and other people like you, didn't show 718 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 6: all of us at our absolute best, when we're all 719 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 6: in our best clothing, make up, fresh haircuts. You showed 720 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 6: us in a very vulnerable state. And you know, we 721 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 6: were all okay with that because we knew we were 722 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 6: signing up. So I thought that said that said a 723 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 6: lot about you know, just like like, hey, it's be 724 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 6: perfect because social media is gonna pay everyone to be 725 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 6: had this perfect life and none of us have none. 726 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so right, No, we sure do not. Okay, 727 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: the really pressing question, who do you think is going 728 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl? 729 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 5: It's a loaded questionnaire. 730 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: I was gonna say the Lions three weeks ago. I'll 731 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: tell you that much. 732 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 6: Okay. So I'm kind of torn. I'm torn, and I'm 733 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 6: gonna tell you I'm torn because I played with A. J. 734 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 5: Brown. 735 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 6: Saquon Barclave played with him, and I've always thought the 736 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 6: world of him, and I thought he was the best 737 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 6: one of the He's going to be known as one 738 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 6: of the best runner backs ever play based off his 739 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 6: effort is ethic, work, ethic, and his talent. But at 740 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 6: the same time, like we are able to potentially witness 741 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 6: like history, something that's never been done before. Patrick Mahomes 742 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 6: and Kelsey and any read to three pet and our sport. 743 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 6: I don't know if people really understand how incredibly hard 744 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 6: that is, because the intangibles and the tangibles have pretty 745 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 6: much need to line up for three straight years in 746 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 6: order for you to do that, and no team is 747 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 6: ever the same. I don't care, it's just never the same. 748 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 6: Guys move on to different teams, they retire, coaches go 749 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 6: get better opportunities, guys will get more money. 750 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 5: And so to have to build. 751 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 6: A team essentially three years straight and to have that 752 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 6: team and the ultimate team sport click well enough to 753 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 6: be called world champions is so hard to do. And 754 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 6: so I appreciate that on a whole another level because 755 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 6: I was able to win one Super Bowl and it 756 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 6: was very, very very hard to win one that loan 757 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 6: to do it three times in three consecutive years. 758 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 5: I know guys who've played. 759 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 6: I know guys like Calvin Johnson and Barry, you know 760 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 6: Barry Sanders who played for eight, nine, ten, twelve years 761 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 6: and didn't even make it to the playoffs or didn't 762 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 6: even want a playoff game. And so to be able 763 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 6: to carton the world champion is a big deal. And 764 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 6: so we're witnessing something that is beyond special. So I 765 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 6: encourage people who like are tired of the Chiefs swinning 766 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 6: and I'm tired of seeing Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and 767 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 6: Taylor Swift. Hey, look we're in the presence of greatness, 768 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 6: and hold onto this memory because one thing I have 769 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 6: learned in sport is that the people who are go 770 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 6: toed are typically the people who are not liked. And 771 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 6: because people want to build you up and eventually once 772 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 6: you get there, they want to tear your butty down. 773 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 6: People don't like Lebron for what reason, Because he's great, 774 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 6: he's not getting in trouble. You don't hear much about 775 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 6: him getting in trouble off the court. Right, hated Kobe 776 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 6: pretty much until he passed away, and now we appreciate 777 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 6: him shot me because of whatever reason. 778 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 5: Now we appreciate it. 779 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 6: Now he's done playing, and so like, enjoy this moment, 780 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 6: you know, with whatever happens. But nonetheless, I think it's 781 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 6: gonna be a great game. I think you're a. 782 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 5: Bunch of superstars all. 783 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 6: On one field. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty special to 784 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 6: watch that. And so I'm pumped you went. 785 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: Were you on the Seahawks team with the year you 786 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: guys went back the second year in a row? 787 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: Or was that when you went to Detroit? 788 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 5: That was my first year in Detroit? 789 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because I remember I went to that because 790 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm good buddies at Warren Moon, and so I went 791 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: out to that game, and then the second year I 792 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: went out to the second one, and when when the 793 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 2: Seahawks lost, I was like, oh my gosh, I couldn't 794 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: be leave it. But yeah, yeah, that's interesting. That's really interesting. Cool, 795 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: And I agree with you, man. I mean, I love 796 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. I just I'd love to see him win one. 797 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 2: But you're right, I wasn't. I'm one of those tired 798 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: of the Chiefs guys. So that resonated with me. I'm 799 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: gonna think about it differently. 800 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's so true. Though we are hopefully 801 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 1: witnessing history. I mean, good football is good football. Hopefully 802 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: everyone will watch and hopefully everyone will watch the finale. 803 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: I cannot see of Special Forces World Stuffest Test. It's 804 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: on Wednesday nights. You can watch on Fox and then 805 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: the next night binge it on Hulu. Golden, thank you 806 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: so much for coming on the Almost Famous OG podcast. 807 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: We are really excited about your podcast. So where can 808 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: people find you? And you know, of course the Tate 809 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: Tate three, t third Jersey, But where can people find you? 810 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 5: Well, first off, I can't answer the question. So you 811 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 5: tell me who you got in the Super Bowl. 812 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll tell you this. I'm buying a bunch of squares. 813 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: Just buy a bunch of squares. Had I just want 814 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 2: everyone to have fun. 815 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: I think what you said is right right on. 816 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 4: I will be well. 817 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: I will be at a dance competition with my daughter 818 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: on Sunday, so and she literally has dances from like 819 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: nine in the morning until ten at night. 820 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 4: So I will be at a dance competition. 821 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, actually fortunately because I love dance competitions. 822 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 4: But I would love. 823 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: To see the game. I know my husband will be 824 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: watching and rooting for both of us. But I do 825 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: think that it is true like people love to knock 826 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: people down. Tom Brady is a perfect example. You know, 827 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: you're you're you are the man in football, and everyone 828 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: just is a hater, so I feel like, yeah, like 829 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: why not lift them up? 830 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 3: This? 831 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: This is historical, so I have to say, I'm a 832 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: Midwestern girl, I gotta go for the Chiefs. 833 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I'm struggling. 834 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 3: I will say this. 835 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm struggling because my team in Madden back in the 836 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 2: day was I would take I would take the Donovan 837 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 2: McNabb Eagles to the super Bowl every year. 838 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know why it was my team back 839 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 3: in the day. 840 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 2: I'm Madden, so I'm such a Lions guy, so it's 841 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: hard for me to root for anybody else. But I 842 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: will say, I am going to have to rethink I was. 843 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: I was all Eagles all the way until you just 844 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 2: said what you said. And now I'm starting to wonder 845 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: if I'm one of those haters. So I got to 846 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: rethink when I'm I got to rethink this. I'm not 847 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: so I'm not sick of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. 848 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 2: I think it's adorable, so you know, from that perspective, 849 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't. 850 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 3: Bug me a bit. 851 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: But but yeah, I think I got to get over 852 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 2: the fact that I feel like sometimes Mahomes uses the 853 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 2: the the rules to his favor, you know, with kind 854 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 2: of drifting to the sidelines and cutting up when everybody 855 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 2: else backs off. That one makes me mad, but but 856 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: I get it. He's just smart. So I gotta quit hating. 857 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 4: Yea, quit Hayten. 858 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 6: You can see Showtime with Golden on Spotify, Apple, or 859 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 6: you can watch it on YouTube. We've had some amazing 860 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 6: guests out there so and we'll probably even even once 861 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 6: the season's over, will still be having some contestants. Hopefully 862 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 6: Trusty will come on and join us and we'll have 863 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 6: some fun with it and see what happens. 864 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 4: I would love that. 865 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: I would love it. So yes, everyone go listen to 866 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: Showtime and follow you on Instagram. I love your recaps 867 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: when you're sitting by the by the TV and you're 868 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: just like, and this happened, and this happened. 869 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 870 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 6: I think I might go ahead and do like a 871 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 6: whole season recap and like just take like, oh know, 872 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 6: use the actual season as a green screaming I guess, 873 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 6: and then I'll be like, paulse this is what actually 874 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 6: happened here, and maybe do it for each episode, just 875 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 6: will take some time. 876 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: That'd be great, you know what, please do that, if 877 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: if only just for all of the rest of the recruits, 878 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: because part of me wants to write the producers and 879 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: ask if we can have like the raw footage, you know, 880 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: just so I can actually show my family that I 881 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: did these tasks, because they didn't show me doing much 882 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: other than crying. So I would love to see the 883 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: raw footage. But at least if there's like, you know, 884 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: this is this is really what was going down, and 885 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: I was in the chicken coop and squatting like I 886 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: was pooping my diapers. 887 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 2: But anyways, yeah, Golden, thank you man, thanks for joining us. 888 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: It's been really great getting to reconnect with you a 889 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: little bit. And like I said, Man, I think as 890 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: a as a viewer who wasn't on the show with 891 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 2: both of you, I think just the you know, the 892 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 2: mental toughness and but also the compassion that you you 893 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 2: specifically show Golden too, you know, the other people on 894 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 2: your team and in your troop and and the cadets. 895 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 2: I think, you know, like Trista always says she was 896 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 2: you were one of her angels, and so I think 897 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 2: it's pretty cool to see that and then to you know, see, 898 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: like I said, you and Brody, for whatever reason, have 899 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: stood out to me as two of the men on 900 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 2: the show who really kind of you know, showed people 901 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 2: your emotions and showed a different side of you that 902 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: that we had never gotten to see before. And I 903 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 2: think that was huge and I think you needed to 904 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 2: do that, but I think it was huge that you 905 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: guys have both done that. 906 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 3: I think it really lets people fall in love with 907 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 3: the show. 908 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,479 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 909 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're welcome, Thank you, and would love to come 910 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 1: on the podcast, so you just let me know when. 911 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 5: Alrighty, all right, awesome. 912 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 3: Thanks everybody, Thank you so much. 913 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: Loved having you. 914 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 5: Pleasure, my pleasure.