1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to a special edition of Move 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: to Sticks. DJ buck Live from Cowboys Camp where we've 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: got the Rams in town. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 3: Buck Man, this is fun. DJ. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 4: Like we talk about training camp, it goes up a 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 4: notch when you have joint practices. Joints practices are the rage. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 4: Everyone wants to see their team compete in the controlled environment, 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 4: so you get the energy of a game, but you 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 4: have mitigate some of the risks. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: Do you have any joint practice from your playing days? 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: You under stand up, yes, I do. 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 4: I remember very early Randy Moss's rookie season. Oh can't 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: see the Chiefs Minnesota Vikings, River Falls, Wisconsin. 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: What that looks like? 16 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 4: It didn't look great against the Chiefs because Randy Moss 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 4: was letting it be known that he was a dominant player, 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 4: and what we saw from those glimpses of him at 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: practice it ended up showing that he was gonna be 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame kind of player. 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Do you remember anything about watching the film of those 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: practices at all? 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: I remember they put it on us in the preseason game, 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 4: But I do remember those practices, Chris Carter, Jake Reid, 25 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 4: Randy Moss. It was unique to have that kind of 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: size on the perimeter. And then you have someone Randy 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 4: Moss's size who could run the way that you could run, 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: could clear the lanes for Chris Carter. You talk about 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: two Hall of Fame receivers on the perimeter. That's a 30 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: lot to see in an offense. That was pretty good. 31 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: That's a good story right there. So today, Cowboys focused, 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: we're going to talk to a player, Malie Hooker, who's 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: really seen his career really stabilized, you know, a little 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: bit rocky early on, and stabilized it's been a real 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: solid performer here for the Dallas Cowboys. We're going to 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: chance to visit with him in a minute. But first up, Buck, 37 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: we have a chance to visit with a buddy of ours, 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: Will McClay, who's been running the personnel for the Dallas 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: Cowboys for quite some time, has really, if you looked 40 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: at it, drafted as well as anybody in the NFL 41 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: over the last decade. So looking forward to visiting with him. 42 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: Here's our conversation with Will McLay. Will appreciates taking the 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: time man. First of all, just house camp going so far. 44 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Big picture, it's training camp, so we're getting to see 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: a lot of competition and it's good, you know, it'll 46 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: be good to see the work that we do against 47 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: the rams and kind of judge where we are. 48 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 5: But training camp is training camp, you know. 49 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: And speaking of this because it's joint practices, it's kind 50 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: of been the new rage where everyone wants to see 51 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: the guys going practice and then they let the young 52 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 4: guys play in preseason. From a philosophical standpoint, how do 53 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: you kind of go about joint practices preseason game? 54 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: What do you put more value on? 55 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: I think both are very very important because you don't 56 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: want to put your stars out in a you know, 57 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: uncontrol environment. So you at least controlling the reps here 58 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: in the in the work that you get with the 59 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: other teams, and then you get to see the young 60 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: guys compete, and you know, the lights come on in 61 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 1: the games. 62 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 5: We want to see who competes. 63 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on second year guys, like, how much 64 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: of a difference is it just having that one training 65 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: camp experience under your belt that you get out here. 66 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: It's a huge jump because now they know what to expect, 67 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: they know the environment, they know what's going on, and 68 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: then to see that growth from the first year the 69 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: second year. They understand the verbiage, they understand the tempo 70 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: of things going on, and so that jump from the 71 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: first year to second year is. 72 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: Huge, you know, will so so many of our listeners 73 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: are aspiring scouts, So just kind of talk about the difference. 74 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: We talk about OTAs and mini camps, but now training 75 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: camp is a different thing. So when you're looking at 76 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: those early parts of pre off season, what are you 77 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: evaluating from your players and how does it different when 78 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 4: it goes to training camp. 79 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: I think the in the off season part, you're looking 80 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: at the small details of can they follow directions? Do 81 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: they do the little things that's going to give them 82 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: the opportunity when it's time to compete. When you come 83 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: to training camp, it's time to compete all those other things. 84 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: You should know what we're doing, you should know how 85 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: we do it, and now let's roll it. You turn 86 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: on the lights and let's go. The training camp part 87 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: is extremely important for the team, not only individuals, but 88 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: as a collective group offensively and defensively to form your identity. 89 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: I know, at the end of the season. You always 90 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: get together and kind of figure things out. Look back 91 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: somewhat of an autopsy on the year when you guys 92 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: began the off season, going to free agency the draft. 93 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: What did you guys prioritize, What do you think needed 94 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: to change from last year to this year? Take that 95 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: next step? 96 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: I think just having the ability to do something to 97 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: fill the holes that we might not have had the 98 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to fill the year before. Attack that in the 99 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: off season and then get prepared for the draft and 100 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: try and find the best players available. And then, you know, 101 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: increase the competition amongst our team. And we wanted to 102 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: improve the team speed and all that stuff, but we 103 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: wanted to improve the competition level of the team. 104 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: One thing to the Cowboys have always done really well 105 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: is draft offensive line. I can tell you as an 106 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 4: old scout, the offensive line was an area that I struggled. So, 107 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: because you guys have been at this for so long, 108 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: what are the things that you're looking for when you're 109 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: identifying the really good offensive lineman in a class? 110 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think the one thing that we've had 111 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: is there's a history so that you can go buy 112 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: that when you look at the Tyron Smith, Zach Martin's 113 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: and so we look for the identity. You know, first 114 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: of all, you've got to be able to move the 115 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: person off of the dot. That's the one thing that 116 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: we look for in the offensive line. And then it's 117 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: how well do you fit in the group. It's the strength, 118 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: it's the quickness, and it's the ability to move people 119 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: in that uh that that dog you get out of 120 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: that dog, I mean, you really do. 121 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: Is anybody you've been around in the past that made 122 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: you so confident George Pickens could come in here and 123 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: excel in this environment, in this system. 124 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: I think that everybody deserves an opportunity, and you know, 125 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: circumstances kind of formulate who you are. And I think 126 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: you changed the environment. We learn things about him and 127 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: he's a really, really good football player that's going to 128 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: bring something to us, and so I think you bring 129 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: him into the culture, and the culture also helps people go. 130 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: Did you have that moment so far in the off 131 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: season where where you're like, Okay, this is what we 132 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: signed up for. This got everybody excited, kind of juice 133 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: up the scout room a little bit. 134 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: I think when you see him every day, and then 135 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: it was something. You know, people talk about, you know, 136 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: some of the things antics or whatever. But there was 137 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: a fight early on in practice and coach had just 138 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: talked about it and I was standing next to Georgia 139 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: and he goes, we got to be more mature than that. 140 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: So there's a little sign that, you know, he enjoys 141 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: where he is. He's buying into the process, and he's 142 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: a hell of a football player. 143 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: I think what's interesting in talking about the George Pickens 144 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: conversation early in the process, Ceedee Lamb was like, Yeah, 145 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: I don't see us as like one and two. 146 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: I see one A and one B. 147 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: Talk about the selflessness that exists between two guys who 148 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 4: are kind of worthy of being able to carry to 149 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: Marquis as the leade receiver. 150 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: I think that's incredible. I think that's a unique deal 151 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: and we'll find out once the lights come on. But 152 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I do think that one of the things that I've 153 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: seen is CD is a great player, and this offseason 154 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: he became greater because his practice habits have changed. I mean, 155 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: he's practicing like he's a rookie trying to make the 156 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: team every day, and George is seeing that and they 157 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: both you know, live off of each other and they thrive. 158 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: And so I think that's a very good room to have. 159 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: In the respect that they have for each other. I 160 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: think it's true, and so I think we'll continue to 161 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: see that grow. 162 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: We've seen a little bit of a throwback in the 163 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: NF over the last few years. We've talked about it 164 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: a bunch of just you know, the physicality, the size. 165 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: Teams are playing a lot of too high safety, which 166 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: necessitates you've got to be bigger and firmer upfront. Defensively, 167 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: it feels almost like size has kind of come in 168 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: vogue again in the NFL. 169 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's the ebbs and flows of the NFL. 170 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: It all changes. You know, everybody was going fast and 171 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: doing all that. Well, now you got to run the 172 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: ball a little bit, so you have to prepare for that, 173 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: and it's the two high safeties. But you got to 174 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: have guys inside that can handle that load. And you know, 175 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm loving the fact the flu's coming back. It's kind 176 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: of some things that we're familiar with, and we talk 177 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: about the speed and intensity of the defense. 178 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: I think that helps as well. But you got to 179 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 5: have those big bodies inside. 180 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: So it's funny you talk about some thing's never changed though, 181 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: pass rushers never changed. You guys drafted Michael Parsons, and 182 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: it's funny that he's sitting there when you guys were 183 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: picking but and watching him become a dominant player. What 184 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: were the traits that you saw at Penn State because 185 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: he wasn't a full time pass rusher there, but he 186 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: has become a dominant pass rusher beyond what he ever 187 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: showed at Penn State. 188 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he probably superseded what we thought from a 189 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: standpoint of a pass rusher. I think that was something 190 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: that coming into it because he played linebacker and he 191 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: was such an athlete. We thought about him dropping, filling 192 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: gaps and all that stuff. But we also saw some 193 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: of the pass rush and the way that he uses leverage, 194 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: blosion and timing and all that whole wrestling background that 195 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: he has. That makes a difference because there's not very 196 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: many people that can rush the passer with thirty one 197 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: thirty two inch arms, you know, and the big man's 198 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: game and be able to win and he knows how 199 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: to apply pressure plus the speed and he's a football 200 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: savant when it comes to, you know, setting people up 201 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: and doing things and playing with leverage very unique. 202 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: How much does your experience benefit you in a situation 203 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: like this, Well, you've got a contract thing that's out there, 204 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: but this is not your first rodeo. You've been around 205 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: this for a long time. How much does that experience 206 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: give you a little sense of calm and knowing, Hey, 207 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: these things have a way of working themselves. 208 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 5: It's the NFL, you know, and it's the way things happen. 209 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: It was a young will flag out in a situation. 210 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, you know, and definitely so. But I mean, 211 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: if you build a team, and it's what we're trying 212 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: to do that you've got capable people, and you've got competition. 213 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: Whatever happens happens because you can't control it. You could 214 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: have him and he might not be there the next day. 215 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: So we have to continue to build it that way. 216 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: And you know, it's the NFL. There's teams. I don't 217 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: know how many teams got the holdouts and all the contracts, 218 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: agents and all that stuff. 219 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: I just want to I. 220 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: Gotta ask you this just because I've always been fascinated 221 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: by the brand of the Cowboys. So when you're evaluating players, 222 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 4: how much do you have to kind of dig into 223 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: the character to know that they can handle the added 224 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: expectation and attention that comes with where in the start. 225 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: That's a great question because you got to pay attention 226 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: to it because it's not We're not some small market team. 227 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: And you know we uh, we. 228 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Make sure that we have something to talk about all 229 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: the time for you guys, and so you got to 230 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: be focused in on the job and and and so 231 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: you look for those guys that number one, Football's got 232 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: to be the most important thing. 233 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 234 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: And then you look at their personal character and how 235 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: they do things, and it all comes into the equation. 236 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: And we want to see how they fit with what 237 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: we do. 238 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: And one of the things I love when you get 239 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: a chance to go out to these practices, not only 240 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: see the young players, get a chance to see some 241 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: young coaches too. Is there give me a young coach 242 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 2: on this staff that you're excited to see it continue 243 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: to grow and evolve as a coach. 244 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: I mean there's a number of coaches. I think. 245 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: One of the things that Shotty has done a great 246 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: job of it's his first opportunity to be a head coach. 247 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: He didn't just go with people that he knew. He 248 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: cast that net far and wide, and then when you 249 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: see them coach them coach young guys. I mean there's 250 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: a lot of guys like you know, Junior Adams coming 251 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: from you know, college football and coming out which all. 252 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: Those guys at Eastern Washington, right, and you know, and. 253 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: He's working with two NFL guys now, you know, and 254 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: doing a great job with the whole room. But he's 255 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: got two stars that he's managing. And that's a unique thing. 256 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: You look at Connor Riley coming over from college and 257 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: so you think those guys and getting into the league 258 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: and understanding what it takes and follow along with the program. 259 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this because they also have a lot 260 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: of energy and the team is building off of that. 261 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: Do you ask your scouts to scout college coaches? By 262 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: the way, we always I think people don't understand that 263 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: they think the scout's going to the school. 264 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: You look at the players. 265 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: A lot of times you might come back to your 266 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: general manager say, hey, if we ever have an opportunity, 267 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: man this this dB coach that I just saw at 268 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: such and such school was really really good. 269 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: Our scouts do a really good job of that because 270 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: one of the things we talk about is just like 271 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: in our own building. You might go into the building, 272 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: there might be we're all doing the same thing for 273 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: the same goal, and you got five different opinions. So 274 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: if you go to a school, what are you going 275 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: to have different opinions? So you got to study the coaches, 276 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: the players, where they come from, how they do that, 277 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: and our guys do a great job with that. 278 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 4: I got to ask you this because I played for 279 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: Brian Schoenheimer's dad, Marty, and Marty was one of the 280 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: best coaches I've ever been around in terms of keeping 281 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 4: the main. 282 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: Thing the main thing. 283 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: Have you seen Brian kind of tapp into some of 284 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 4: those lessons that he might have learned from his dad 285 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 4: as he stepped into this leadership posit. 286 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: There's no question, you know, he has his own identity. 287 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: He was brought up in the game, and so the 288 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: foundation and the bones are there, but he has his own. 289 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's his father's influences, that's the deep thread 290 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: of it. But then you got you know, the Mike McCarthy's, 291 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: the Pete Carroll's, but he's made it his own. He's 292 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: very genuine and what he does and how he does it, 293 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: and it's been impressive to see, especially as your first 294 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: time as a head coach. 295 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: There's a lot of things that come. 296 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Up, and the first time head coach with the Cowboys, 297 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of things that come and he's handled it 298 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: the right way. 299 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: What's your what's your go to here in training camp? 300 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: But you got to get away? You're in football, immersed 301 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: in football, you got practice, you got tape, you got 302 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 2: your guys in your meeting. What do you do to 303 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: get away a little bit during this time here? Is 304 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: that even possible? 305 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: It's not even possible. And I don't want to because 306 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: this is the job that I have Honestly. I mean, 307 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: if you don't love it at this time, it'll show. 308 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: Well. 309 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: I love being around it, love being around the guys. 310 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: This is why we're doing this and we're trying to 311 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: build something. So I enjoy it. And Uh, I'm glad 312 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: we're out here in California and not at one. 313 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: Hundred and five. 314 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 5: That helps, Yeah, helps a little bit. That helps ay. 315 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: Last one for me, well, we appreciate your time, man. Uh, 316 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: this group, if you're going to get where you want 317 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: to go, what needs to happen? 318 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 5: We need to stay healthy. 319 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: Uh, and we got to play twenty something weeks all together, 320 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: and we got to handle the ebbs and flows of 321 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: the season. There's going to be ebbs and flows and 322 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: you got to be able to handle that. And I 323 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: think that's what the thing that is most important to 324 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: me is handling the ebbs and flows of the season 325 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: and having a lot of depth because you got to 326 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: have it in the NFL now day. 327 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: There's no question, Well, appreciate your time in best elect 328 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 2: this year. 329 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 5: Thank you. 330 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: Yes, great to hear from Will and Buck. I mean, 331 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: it's uh, Look, it's not an easy job because every 332 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: talk show in Dallas, it doesn't matter what day of 333 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: the year it is, the Cowboys are topic number one. 334 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: And when you're picking players and you're trying to help 335 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: get players in camp and there might be contract situations, 336 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is gonna get a lot of that attention. 337 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: But Will mccleail catched them strays too now, so he's 338 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: got a lot, a lot on his plate. 339 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: He has a lot on his play, but he's really 340 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: managed his role really well. And it takes someone who 341 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 4: has a low ego to be able to do it. 342 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: Because the brand is big. We talk about the star 343 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 4: being big, you talk about local shows, national shows talk 344 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: about the Cowboys on a daily but one of the 345 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 4: things that has been underrated off and overlooked. They've done 346 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: a really good job of drafting. This is really a 347 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: home grown team where they find their guys in the draft, 348 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: they developed them, and those stars that they've selected early 349 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: have turned out to be are So give a lot 350 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: of credit to Will McLay the staff in terms of 351 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: how they put the piece of the puzzle together. His 352 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 4: team not only relevant, but very very competitive throughout his tenure. 353 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: Now you hit on the humility there, because man, it's 354 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of guys try and get themselves 355 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: out there, put their name out there. They want to 356 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: claim credit and success for any of the success they 357 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: might have. Will didn't play that game at all. He's 358 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: just a good dude who's a personnel guys. Personnel guy. 359 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: So great to visit with him. I hope you guys 360 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: enjoyed that one. I was in a little traffic on 361 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: the way up here, buck full disclosure, the drive from 362 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: San Diego. Stick little stick. So I did not make 363 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: it up here for your conversation with Malik Hooker, but 364 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: I am anxious to hear it because someone man that 365 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: feels like it was just a year or two ago. 366 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: It's been a minute now since he and I Jamal 367 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: Adams were coming out in that same draft class. 368 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, nine years in. Look, when he was coming out 369 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: of Ohio State. The thing that everyone talked about the 370 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 4: ball skills, h metics big time basketball player. It has 371 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: translated really really well when he's been in the system 372 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: that has allowed and played to a strip Now he. 373 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Said, it really a really nice career. So here's Bucky's 374 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: conversation with Malie Hooker. 375 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: League. 376 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: You're nine International Football League. Just talk about the journey. 377 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: What has it been like to have lasting power in 378 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: the NFL. 379 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 6: It's been special. Obviously, there's been a lot of highs. 380 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 7: You know, a lot of lows as you know any 381 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 7: other player that plays in the league. But you know, 382 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 7: I wouldn't I guess I wouldn't regret nothing that I 383 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 7: went through. So it's been a special journey. You know, 384 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 7: a lot of you know, information, knowledge that I've gained 385 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 7: throughout you know, my years of being in the league 386 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 7: for nine years, and you know a lot of great 387 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 7: people I came along the way too, So you know, 388 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 7: I wouldn't change nothing about it. 389 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 6: So It's been special for me. 390 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: When you play that long in the league, the game 391 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 4: is probably slow motion for you. Now when you go 392 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 4: back and you think about the rookie that came into 393 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: the league firs from Ohio State, what would you tell 394 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 4: that player if you could give me advice, knowing what 395 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: you know now, I'll. 396 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 7: Say, just keep confidence. You know, it's the NFL. There's 397 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 7: a lot of great players in the league. You know, 398 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 7: guys make great plays weekend and week out. You know, 399 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 7: us being competitive, you know, athletes and things like that. 400 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 7: You know, we always want to be on the better 401 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 7: side of you know, obviously a player or team getting 402 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 7: the best of you. 403 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 6: So, you know, I just say keep the confidence. 404 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 7: You know. That was a thing I wouldn't say I 405 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 7: necessarily lack, but you know, especially me being. 406 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 6: A high profile guy. 407 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 7: Coming out of college, you know, I always wanted to 408 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 7: prove myself right along with everybody that was behind me 409 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 7: as far as supporting me. So I said, just keep 410 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 7: my confidence. You know, always remained true to my faith 411 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 7: and my journey, you. 412 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: Know, and speaking of that journey, like one of the 413 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: things that was always impressive when you were coming out 414 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: of college is just being a sea ball getball defender. 415 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: And we know in our league there's a premium placed 416 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: on guys who are ballhawks. If you're coaching young guys 417 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: in terms of taking the ball away or being a 418 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: ball hawk. What are things that are essentially being able 419 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: to see it and go get it. 420 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 7: Uh, just always keeping it at the forefront of your mind. Honestly, 421 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 7: you know, I'm still a guy that still kind of learning, 422 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 7: I guess even as far as my career to kind 423 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 7: of just always thinking about the ball, especially for my position. 424 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 7: You know, I'm always the last line of defense, but 425 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 7: that doesn't mean you still can't create a tur takeaway 426 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 7: in open field tackle just by punching the ball. 427 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 6: So I'll say that's the main. 428 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 7: Thing, you know, just always keeping the ball at the 429 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 7: forefront of your mind, whether it be tackling or fifty 430 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 7: to fifty balls on interceptions, whatever the case may be, 431 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 7: just always keeping that in your mind that the ball 432 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 7: is yours. 433 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 6: And even with force. 434 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 7: Fumbles like it just takes one tap of the ball 435 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 7: and most of the times, you know, it's not the 436 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 7: guys that are intentionally you know, obviously throwing hate maker's 437 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 7: trying to pun it just takes it just takes, you know, 438 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 7: one little cap off off, you know, the second guy 439 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 7: going in on the tackle. So just kind of, you know, 440 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 7: trying to install that my mind always, you know, playing 441 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 7: and playoff, just thinking of the ball being on my mind. 442 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 7: So I'll say that's one of the things that I 443 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 7: can improve, one that I'm thinking about doing heavy this year. 444 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: That's what it's funny now because you reunited with your 445 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 4: old defensive coordinator, Malc. I'm gonna tell you people told 446 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 4: me back in the day when you're in and NABS, 447 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: when y'all play against other teams, teams didn't like the 448 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 4: way that y'all always attacked the ball. 449 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what is it about. 450 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: Flues his philosophy where you guys are always thinking about 451 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: attacking the ball first and foremost. 452 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 7: I'll say, you know, just takeaways. You know, obviously in 453 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 7: this league, takeaways raises your percentage of you being able 454 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 7: to win the game. So anytime we can go out 455 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 7: there and create an interception or force Fumma to get 456 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 7: obviously a high coluber quarterback like we got Dak Prescott 457 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 7: the ball back, you know, that's a good. 458 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 6: Thing on our end. 459 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 7: Because I'm a firm believer that majority of the time 460 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 7: he has the ball, he's capable of putting points on 461 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 7: the border. 462 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 6: He does put points on the board. 463 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 7: So guys like that in the league that are you know, 464 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 7: playmakers offensively, you know, you give him more chances to 465 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 7: have the ball in their hands and being able to 466 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 7: do what they do. That just increases our chance of 467 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 7: being able to go on out there and getting to win. 468 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 7: So that's how I look at. 469 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 6: It for me. 470 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: Okay, so you let's go to the offense aid of 471 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: the ball. We get back to defense. 472 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: But you talk about Dak Prescott and facing him every 473 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 4: day and seeing him, what are people on the outside 474 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 4: who are not like huge Dak. 475 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 6: Supporters, what are they missing? 476 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: What makes him special? 477 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 6: In your words? Oh, he's a team first guy. 478 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 7: He's a team first guy, especially you know, being at 479 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 7: the Cowboys. You know, we're talked about a lot, whether 480 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 7: it be social media, ESPN or whatever the case may be, 481 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 7: and the first person that always seems to gets mentioned 482 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 7: is Dak. So for you to have the type of 483 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 7: shoulders that he has to be able to go out 484 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 7: there and. 485 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 6: Perform how he does and for you. 486 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 7: Not to notice that, you know, it bothers him or 487 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 7: he can't sweater or whatever the case may be. That 488 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 7: takes a lot of you know, credible and discipline and 489 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 7: just being mentally focused. So I say that's the main 490 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 7: thing about him, Like he not only is he a 491 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 7: great competitor, but how mentally he's stronger he is for 492 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 7: what he does for us, and then also the off 493 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 7: the field of stuff too, Like he's even greater. 494 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 6: Guy off the field. 495 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 7: So I mean, if I could, and I'll play with 496 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 7: Dak until I can't no more. But you know, hopefully 497 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 7: in the future that's what the thing is and it's 498 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 7: gonna be. But that's the thing I love about Dak. 499 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 7: He's a competitor. He's a great guy off the field too. 500 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 4: He does seem like he has those special qualities in 501 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 4: terms of the intangibles that you look for at the position. 502 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 4: But I'm saying this, cowboys want to make sure they 503 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: surrounded him with some talent. So there's some playmakers on 504 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: this side. Talk about Cdee Lamb, Yeah, Jake Ferguson. Then 505 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: you have George Pickens coming over. Know those battles. I 506 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: know it's kind of scripted. One don't go against ones offen, 507 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 4: but how challenging is it to face that this new 508 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: and improved Cowboys offense. 509 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 7: It's definitely difficult because we got so many playmakers on 510 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 7: the offensive side. You know, you just name three of 511 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 7: them off the jump. Dak, Now not just only Dak, 512 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 7: but CD. We got GP, yeah, fer uh, we got 513 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 7: Javonte coming out of the backfield. 514 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 6: We got Turp. 515 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 7: Like, there's so many weapons that we have on offense 516 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 7: that are capable doing so many different things. Like you 517 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 7: might see Turp sometimes getting hand offs in the backfield. 518 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 7: A lot of people might not agree with it, but 519 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 7: the type of player Turp is, like it just takes 520 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 7: it just takes a little bit of space for him. 521 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 7: He's able to make a small play turn into explosive 522 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 7: play for us. So with those guys on the side 523 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 7: of the offense, it's hard to game plan against something 524 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 7: like that, especially for me being out there and me 525 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 7: being the middle of field guy or guy that's typically 526 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 7: in the post most of the time. 527 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 6: It's kind of hard to cover because it's. 528 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 7: Like before you can be like, all right, I'm gonna 529 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 7: see and give somebody else a chance to try to 530 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 7: catch the ball on this down. But now with with 531 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 7: obviously GP on the other side and some of the 532 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 7: other guys up and coming to Obviously we seen a 533 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 7: lot of Jayalen Tober last year, who's making a lot 534 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 7: of incredible players this camp. You just never know what 535 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 7: you're gonna get backside. So that's the special thing about 536 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 7: going into this year, Like there's kateboy being ESPN players 537 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 7: and big time playmakers that have the ball constantly for 538 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 7: our offense. 539 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 6: So I'm looking forward to see what they do this year. 540 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: Okay, so it's not fair in training camp, right, So 541 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: this is why it's not fair. So we talked about 542 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 4: the one defense in the one offense. When the head 543 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 4: coach is coordinated, it seems like the offensive coordinator, it 544 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: seems like everything is stacked in their favor. How is 545 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer kind of putting his mark on this team? 546 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 7: Man, it's been tremendous, honestly, Like I'm sure a lot 547 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 7: of guys on the team, Kvas can say that. I 548 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 7: mean not saying that Corderie hasn't been great any other 549 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 7: years that I've been here, but this year, like, not 550 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 7: only is in Karadarie good, the focus of all the 551 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 7: players and the hungriness that a lot of guys have 552 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 7: going into this year obviously from the results we had 553 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 7: last year. It's just a major difference. Like you can 554 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 7: tell guys got a chip on their shoulder and aren't 555 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 7: pleased with the way we finished last year. So, like 556 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 7: I said, he's just been doing a tremendous job of 557 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 7: just having us come in and just obviously cliches and sounds, 558 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 7: just kind of be on our feet are you know, 559 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 7: we take every days, you know, wherever we're in meetings, 560 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 7: and we want to compete in meetings or whatever the 561 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 7: case may be. We do a lot of competitions throughout 562 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 7: the meetings too, just to kind of keep that competitive 563 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 7: edge for guys. Cause, like I said, competitiveness here and 564 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 7: the talent ain't the thing, you know what I'm saying, 565 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 7: It's just about us staying focused and you know, kind 566 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 7: of just being locked in playing the playout because if 567 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 7: we do that, man, there's a lot of teams that 568 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 7: I feel like, honestly ain't gonna be able to match 569 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 7: up with us offensively and defensively. 570 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 3: You know. So here's just funny. 571 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: So I played for his dad, I played for Marty 572 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: Shot and Hummer back in Kansas City. Sir Brian was 573 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 4: still kind of high school making his way through. So 574 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: I just got to ask you if he has some 575 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 4: of the stuff that his dad. So his dad was 576 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 4: long winded, like to talk a lot. His dad was 577 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: also very emotional. We're looking in the locker room dad 578 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 4: shedding tears free games. So I just got to know 579 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: how emotional is Brian when it comes from his interaction 580 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: with the team. 581 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 7: Honestly, he's pro, he's real up tempo. I mean, this 582 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 7: guy seen kind of how to start a practice starts. 583 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 7: You know, we do the bag drills, and it seems 584 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 7: like everything's just drill after drill, I guess you'll say, 585 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 7: but I mean, honestly, he just brings so much energy 586 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 7: and excitement into our meetings that I really haven't I 587 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 7: haven't seen him get emotional. I mean, obviously there's a 588 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 7: little emotion when you know, you hear about guys having 589 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 7: kids and meeting families and stuff like that, But as 590 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 7: far as when he's around the guys, like, it's very 591 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 7: I guess less likely for him to show like something 592 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 7: as far as him being overly excited to where he 593 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 7: wants to cry or something like that. Like it's always 594 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 7: like a competitive excitement, if that makes sense. 595 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: It does make sense because I will say this, his 596 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 4: dad was the most confident coach I've ever heard. His 597 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 4: dad was standing in the room and just talking about, Hey, 598 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: we're gonna beat this team because of X Y Z, 599 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: and it would happened. 600 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: Now, another guy. 601 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: Who's super confident I've noticed since he was in high school, 602 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 4: Michael Parsons. Yes, Sir, Michael Parsons brings the energy and 603 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: that stuff. And he's dealing with his own contract situation. 604 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: But what have you seen from him while he's been around, 605 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 4: not really practicing, but he certainly seems like he's engaged. 606 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, definitely. 607 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 7: I mean from even in the offseason OTAs when he 608 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 7: came back and you know, we all got back together 609 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 7: and everything, Like you can just tell just mentally he's 610 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 7: I guess he's kind of reaching a new level as 611 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 7: far as who he wants to be, not only as 612 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 7: a player, but as a vocal leader on the team. 613 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 6: Like I mean, I don't know if you guys pay 614 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 6: attention to him much. I'm sure his guys do. 615 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 7: The contract situation going on, but he's just been vocal 616 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 7: for those guys, and he's been vocal years before. But 617 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 7: also too, like a lot of people fail to realize 618 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 7: Mica is only what twenty four to twenty five years old, 619 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 7: so he's still kind of trying to find his way 620 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 7: as well as kind of lead and other guys. So 621 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 7: it's been special this offseason to see the type of 622 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 7: leader he is without his play style, you know what 623 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like he's able to go out there and 624 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 7: give us ten sacks a season everything. But the great 625 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 7: thing about it is he's able to pass on his 626 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 7: knowledge of stuff to the young guys by just being 627 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 7: vocal and telling them what he sees. And I've been 628 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 7: seeing that a lot throughout this camp. You know, God, 629 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 7: a lot of people highlight and obviously the contract situation everything, 630 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 7: But man, he's been being a heck of a leader 631 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 7: this offseason. 632 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: Okay, so he's not still in the locker room talking 633 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 3: about I could be a running back. 634 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 4: Is because he's not still telling those stories about, you know, 635 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: begging Harrisburg pay running back and I can do all this. 636 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 7: Please tell y'all got him out of that. Oh no, no, 637 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 7: he's still there. He's still there. You see him out there. 638 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 7: He's out there lining up trying to guard see the 639 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 7: acting like he's a corner. 640 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 6: So Mike is one. 641 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 7: Of those guys and you'll be surprised, man, like how gifted, 642 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 7: how special he is. He's capable of going out there 643 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 7: and playing quarterback if you want to. Like, he's that 644 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 7: special as a player. And it's like a year and 645 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 7: a year out, it's just crazy because he finds some 646 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 7: way to just remind somebody why he's so talented. Like 647 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 7: the sacks tend you know, the first three years of 648 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 7: his career to have the double digit sacks and the 649 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 7: way he was doing it was special. But now like 650 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 7: how he gets out there and he's able to be 651 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 7: put in different places to show not only how good 652 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 7: of a pass rush he is, but how good he 653 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 7: can cover and everything too. So I'm looking forward to 654 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 7: seeing that the end of his career. 655 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: You know what. 656 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 7: I'm finally out of the league and I get to 657 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 7: watch some of the guys that I played with. 658 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 6: Im looking forward to see where he ends out in 659 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 6: his career, because man, he's a special player. 660 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 4: Okay, last one, Man, I got a lot of people 661 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: they kind of round my university, the Cowboys fans, and 662 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: then like this is the year this and now I 663 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 4: tell my guys, I don't know, So I'm gonna lean 664 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: on the expert because you're with the team every day. 665 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: Tell me why this is the year the. 666 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: Cowboys finally gonna live up to the expectations that they're here, 667 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: their fans have. 668 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 7: Honestly, I mean, I can't predict the future, but just 669 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 7: like I said, just the chip that guys have on 670 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 7: the shoulder this year, I mean it's always been a 671 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 7: chip since I've been here. 672 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 6: Guys wanted to obviously. 673 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 7: Get to the big dance for the team, you know 674 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 7: what I'm saying, But just the way guys are carrying, 675 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 7: Like you see a lot of young guys who have 676 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 7: four or five year type player routines. So it's like 677 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 7: when you got stuff like that going on, and you 678 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 7: seeing like a lot of the guys just buying into 679 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 7: the culture and with some of the older guys is 680 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 7: teaching and the knowledge that they're passing off. Like it's 681 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 7: hard to beat teams like that, especially with like I said, 682 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 7: the roster that we have from top to bottom. We 683 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 7: got talent like that hasn't been a thing in Dallas. 684 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 7: We've been having, you know, great defenses, we had deeps. 685 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 7: We felt like it wasn't so good as well, as 686 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 7: I'm sure offense feels the same way. So talent's not 687 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 7: the thing. It's just about just lock and in and 688 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 7: you know, those big games, it just comes down are 689 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 7: one or two plays that make a difference. And I 690 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 7: feel like, you know, years before, we wasn't as disciplined 691 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 7: as we were supposed to be to be able to 692 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 7: capitalize on the plays that we needed to to obviously 693 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 7: reach the the accomplishment that we're trying to get done. 694 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 7: So I feel like that's just the main thing. Like 695 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 7: guys are just being intentional with just locking in day 696 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 7: in and day out, and play by play, you know 697 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 7: what I'm saying, One play goes by, you let it out, 698 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, get back to the huddle 699 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 7: and kind of refresh your mind right here. 700 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I hear right now because I remember Brian's dad, Marty, 701 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: would always talk about one play at the time, So 702 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: it seems like those lessons have been there. But look, 703 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 4: we're gonna make sure the headline goes down to MALIEK. 704 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 4: Cooker guarantees the Cowboys going to the Super Bowl. 705 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 6: Shit, thanks for joining men, Thank you. I appreciate you guys. 706 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 3: For having me. 707 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 2: All right block. Great to catch up with Mele Cooker 708 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: I enjoyed that conversation. I wish I was there for it. 709 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: It would have been nice if you've been there, but 710 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: it was one of your guys. 711 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: I love MALIEK. Cooker Man, but it's nice see him 712 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: come around. He's had himself a nice career. 713 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 6: Uh. 714 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: Speaking of guys who are coming, we got a chance 715 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: to go out here and watch some of this practice. 716 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: And if you haven't done it before, a joint practice, 717 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: it is like it's system overload because you've got two fields, 718 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: You've got teams working against each other on each field. 719 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: You have to decide where you want to devote your time. 720 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: Little of this, a little that. But that's why these 721 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: teams have all the personnel departments out here and they're assigned. Okay, 722 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: you're gonna watch the RAMS D line, You're gonna watch 723 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: the RAMS O line. You know, split everybody up on 724 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: the fields. But just overall, team takeaways with what you 725 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: saw today, the team takeaways first and starvery to RAMS 726 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: because they're the visitor. I continue to be impressed with 727 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: the job that Sean mcvah and staff does getting a 728 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: young team ready to play. There's an energy that the 729 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: Rams show up and play with that never leaves the field. 730 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: They're young, guys, are active, they play to the line, 731 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: meaning they're a little edgy, but not too much. They're organizing, 732 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: detailed and discipline, and when it comes to the way 733 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: they operate on both sides of the ball, Mandaid offense 734 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: shows up because Sean McVay is a wizard. We saw 735 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: them have multiple big plays where whether it's the pin 736 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: or their guys winning their individual matchup, guys wide open 737 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: and when it comes down to that, it's either the 738 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: play design or the people are better than you. 739 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: But regardless, we. 740 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 4: Saw the La Rams offense really go to work and 741 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: then defensively they just fly swarm to the ball. 742 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: So a pretty good day for them on both sides. 743 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll hit the Rams and follow you up there. 744 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: On the offensive side of the ball, Devonte Adams had 745 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: some big plays. Blake Korn popped one, Karen Williams, you 746 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: reference that he popped one on a little pin and 747 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: poll there on the outside, and then you also look 748 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: at what they did protection wise. I thought for the 749 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: most part they held up well. For Jimmy Garoppolo, he 750 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: operated smoothly a lot of motions, a lot of guys, 751 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: a lot of movement there with what they're doing. Pooka 752 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: Nakoo was in motion a lot, moving him around a 753 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: little bit. It still takes getting some getting used to 754 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: seeing him out there in the twelve. That looks different. 755 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: It is different. It is different, but. 756 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 4: That combination because you always wonder what it's going to 757 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: look like when you see those two guys work together. 758 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: And the Rands have always done a really good job 759 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 4: of having interchangeable parts on the perimeter. But man, two 760 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 4: route runners, two terrific pass catchers, guys who are really 761 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: savvy in terms of how they get open. Sean McVay 762 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: loves those types and you see how he's already able 763 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: to get them free with some of those creative play. 764 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: Design defensive side of the ball. For the first gosh, now, 765 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: the first ten plays or so, there was like I'm 766 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: watching Jared Vers just wreck shot. He ended up he 767 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: was off sides on one. He ended up getting a 768 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: little early jump. But Barkin a lot of energy, a 769 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: lot of passion, same thing we've seen from him last year, 770 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: but he was very dominant. Poona Ford is fitting really 771 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: well with him. He made some plays on the other 772 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: side of the line of scrimmage against the run. 773 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: He looked good. 774 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: Is a nice addition there. 775 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: Tell you what. 776 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: The other one who flashed like crazy is Camp Kitchens 777 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: is flying all over the field four or five of 778 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: those where I think, Buck, if you do it to 779 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: the wrong person, you're probably going to have a fight. 780 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a little bit beyond the tag off and 781 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: the thud. It was a little thud plus. I would 782 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: say for Camp Kitchens out. 783 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: There, oh look, man, they definitely have this competitive spirit 784 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: about them and over the line, but it's right at 785 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: the line, and they do a really good job of 786 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: bringing that energy and stuff to the field. And I say, look, 787 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: the Cowboys certainly match the energy. But you can just 788 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 4: tell when you look at the Rams the way they operate. 789 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 4: They operate like a perennial playoff contender. They just kind 790 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 4: of carry themselves like we know how to go about 791 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: the business of winning. 792 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: I would say, tempo wise, just overall tempo Rams advantage 793 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: from what we saw out there today. 794 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: But I would say this in looking at the Cowboys, 795 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: because you had a chance to see the big plays 796 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 4: from their offense, there are some playmakers that are available 797 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: and you saw some of the big plays flying over 798 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 4: the top of the defense. 799 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: Joe Milton had a. 800 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: Terrific huge Jalen Brooks. 801 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be a social media sensation, but big 802 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 4: throw down the field what everyone wants to see. 803 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: The Cowboys certainly can go big play hunting. This is 804 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: a different approach than the way the Rams operate. 805 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: Well, the other thing is Ceede Lamb's gonna catch five 806 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: hundred balls because they threw him so many quick hitters 807 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: that are really not coverable to get the ball in 808 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: his hand seeing and make somebody miss, make something happen 809 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: after the catch. 810 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's who he is. 811 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: If you go back to his days at Oklahoma, you 812 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 4: would see him make excellent plays on catch and run opportunities. 813 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: They're trying to make sure that he has enough touches 814 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 4: to impact the game. 815 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: In a perfect world, you. 816 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: Would like to see a higher yards per attempt go 817 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 4: over his way. But look, I think the eventually get there, 818 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: but it's clear that they make it a concerted. 819 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: Effort to make sure he's always featured in the offense. 820 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: And we heard Will McLay talk about George Pickens and 821 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: how been on his best behavior here they're very happy 822 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: with him. Man, you forget just going out there just 823 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: watching what he looks like. I mean, he looks the part. 824 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: He can really move. He's fluid and smooth, and we 825 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to see them. You know him 826 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: kind of go up and win those fifty to fifty balls. 827 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: But you know that's coming. That element is going to 828 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: compliment seed Lamb. We said it when they when they 829 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: brought him over there, which was, Man, if you're going 830 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: to find a compliment to Ceede Lamb, it kind of 831 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: it is George Pickens's way of playing. That is the 832 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: compliment it is. 833 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: And when you go back to the days when the 834 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: Cowboys are great, they've always had a guy that did 835 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 4: all this damage on the intermediate part of the field and. 836 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: Alvin Harper and Alvin Harper, Michael Irvin, Alvin Harper. 837 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: So now George Pickens can take the top off the 838 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 4: defense while also giving you that red zone firepower and 839 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: in Ceedee Lamb just being a natural number one. I 840 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 4: like the way they compliment each other. And when you 841 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 4: throw Jake Ferguson in as someone that can call it, 842 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: he got one to the underneath areas of the field, 843 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 4: it's a very complete offense, and if you ask me, 844 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: it's an offense that's going to carry the team. 845 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: And then defensively they're playing for turnovers. 846 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. When you look at the Cowboys defense, Buck, 847 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: I think of the three we've mentioned so far, Rams offense, 848 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: defense man plenty to be excited about if you're a 849 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: Rams fan. Cowboys offense, we saw some flashes of some 850 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: really good things. A deep ball from Milton. We mentioned 851 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: Dak was under some pressure, you know, but I thought 852 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: when he had time he threw the ball. Well, they 853 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: got the tight end involved, they got seed lamb a 854 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: bunch of balls. The one unit to me that if 855 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: I was just from what we saw today, and it's 856 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: one practice, it's a little glimpse secondary of the Cowboys. 857 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit nervous there, Buck, Yeah. 858 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 4: A little nervous, But we've seen these things and some 859 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: teams are slow cook. You gotta slow cook him, cook 860 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: them in the crockpot. And diversity be well. When we 861 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: think about Matt Eberflus zone coverage, vision base, it takes 862 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: a little while for it to come up to speed, 863 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 4: but when this clicks, if it clicks, they can play 864 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 4: really good. And remember, if they're playing with a high 865 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 4: powered offense, teams are going to be throwing into the 866 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 4: teeth of the defense. 867 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 3: But the only way it works, you's got to have pastors. 868 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: That's where Michael Parson. 869 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 2: Getting ready to say the same thing. 870 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: Has to be able to come in and. 871 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: Be effective because you've got Digs, Trevon Diggs over there 872 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: and Parsons kind of hanging out together. Parsons had his 873 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: cowboy jersey on Penn State pants, but cowboy jersey so 874 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: had some team issued stuff on there. But when you're 875 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: watching them play defense, you realize, man, Jared Verse like 876 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: just kind of jumps off the field. Is this is 877 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 2: someone you have to account for. Man, you take Michael 878 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: Parsons off that defense if change is that defense? Man. 879 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And look, man, I think he's worth his weight 880 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 4: in gold when it comes to what he brings. And 881 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 4: Will McClay described his past rushing ability, the explosiveness, just 882 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 4: the suddenness that he plays with. They don't have anybody 883 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 4: who has dead juice on the front line, and without him, man, 884 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: they're rendered helpless on defense because they just can't get 885 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 4: enough freshure. 886 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: You remember Emmett, how many games you remember he missed 887 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: two games. That what it was they got that was 888 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: literally like, it's a wonderful life. If you haven't seen 889 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 2: that movie, you get a glimpse to see what life 890 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: looks like without Emmett Smith and the Cowboys quickly decided 891 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: we probably need that dude. I hope this doesn't go 892 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: into that territor. I hope it doesn't go that long 893 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: because this is not something I think Cowboys fans or 894 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: the organization wants to see what this defense looks like 895 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: without him. 896 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 3: No, I mean we just look at it. There aren't 897 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 3: any notable names. Is him. Maybe Dante Fowler can give 898 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 3: them something they love. 899 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 2: Israku So getting giants see much of him today, But 900 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: they said he has had a great camp out of 901 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: Boston College. He's got an edge to home. He's done 902 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: really nice shock. But again, that put him, you know, 903 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: as a piece here with Michaeh Parsons now and you 904 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: can you can pair him up on the same side, 905 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: you can put them opposite each other. But that's gonna 906 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: make him even better. 907 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he needs to be the compliment. He can't be 908 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 4: the primary. If he's a compliment, he can make a 909 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 4: bunch of plays on the backside because all of the attention. 910 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: Is on the very level. 911 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: Any other any other big ticket takeaways. I did not 912 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: take any special teams notes today. 913 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: No, but they punted well. 914 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 2: Like I saw the ball, It turned it over. 915 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: It turned it over. 916 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 4: It looked like how I want my drive to be 917 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: off of. You know, the seventeenth I hit it straight 918 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 4: man down the middle. 919 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: But one thing this training camp tour does every year 920 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: two reminds me of like you forget, like you gotta 921 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: be in standing up shape. 922 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: Really weird to say. 923 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 2: Shoes are important, you know, and just the sock is 924 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: sliding down. It's not coming. 925 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't make good choices. You didn't make good choice. 926 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 3: You gotta make good choices. In DJ when we were scouting, 927 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: shoes fit everything. 928 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 4: You gotta have it, gotta heavy water, you frobably a 929 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 4: little sweats out to make sure you don't get I 930 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 4: messed up by not having had you had to add thought. 931 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: I thought podcast is hat casual. You know the network 932 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: they yell at you. But I thought, you know, I think. 933 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta get back and scouting shape. So we're 934 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: on our way. This was a nice little tasty cake. Yeah. 935 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: Ways, and I like being able to walk around were 936 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: restricted here today. Yeah, when you're scouting, you kind of 937 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: walk around the whole field. You can't put scouts in 938 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: a box. 939 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 3: No, no, I can't do that. 940 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: All right, this has been fun. It's been great to 941 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 2: get out here. Thanks again to the Cowboys for being 942 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: so kind and providing our guests. I appreciate Will McLay 943 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 2: taking some time for us, Malie Hooker and everybody we 944 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: had a chance to visit with today. Thanks to the 945 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: wonderful movie Sticks crew that got this thing all set up. 946 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: I know this is not an easy to take. 947 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: This show that easy. Not easy. 948 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 4: And thank you for making a long drive. Like maybe 949 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 4: you'll get back to San Diego bus. 950 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: I'm hoping by the time I get home and Padres 951 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: are in first place, we'll see it's not that long. 952 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 3: Of a drive, all right. 953 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. We'll see you next time. Right here, 954 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm moving Sticks