WEBVTT - Skubal to LA! Why the Dodgers Aren't the Ones Ruining Baseball 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.960 The Dodgers are not ruining baseball. 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:02.320 People. 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:05.640 The other twenty nine teams that could have easily put 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.080 a package like this together and decided not to do 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.800 it because they're so risk averse. Those are the ones 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:30.200 that are ruining baseball. Hell everybody, and welcome to a 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:34.440 brand new episode of Dodgers Territory. It is an emergency 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.720 episode if you will on this Sunday, August second. We 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.080 are your hosts. My name is Alana Rizzo. That is 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.199 Katie Wu of the Athletic Clint Pesius of course you 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.120 know him as real frg Oh my goodness, this is 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:48.920 what I get for going to bed at nine thirty 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.800 pm on a Saturday evening. I wake up to the 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.280 news that Trek Schooble is headed to the Los Angeles 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.720 Dodgers in a trade. Will get into the pieces of 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.600 the trade momentarily. I have so much much to say 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.240 about this. It is now official. The Dodgers have tweeted 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:04.920 it as well, so you know it's real. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:05.800 Katie. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.640 This is the time of year when you, as a 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.640 beat reporter for the Athletic, are in the trenches. What 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:12.520 do you make of it? 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.400 I mean, are is anyone surprised? Look, as I think 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.680 the Dodgers did their textbook downplay early in July, you know, hey, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.080 here's what we're working on behind the scenes. And then 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.360 as we got closer and closer to this deadline and 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.640 more and more questions, specifically with Shoheotani's status and his 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.040 health injury or health status came into play, it became 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.560 more and more obvious that these two were just kind 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.520 of meant to be trade partners. They were the Dodgers 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.400 were the industry favorite slams school all along. And then 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.880 when we talked to Andrew Friedman on Wednesday, he said 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.840 a line I'm paraphrasing here were anytime there are so 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.920 few game changing stars available, anytime one is available, we're 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:51.920 going to be in those discussions. You didn't have to 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.200 say Terror School by name to know that's exactly who 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.040 he was talking about. The Only thing that's surprising to me, guys, 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.840 and we'll get into it, i'm sure, is just how 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.120 quickly the steal game together. There's still more than twenty 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.400 four hours away until the deadline actually expires. Usually for 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.239 a team like the Tigers, who allegedly had all the 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.880 leverage in this deal, you'll wait till the last minute, 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.160 but clearly they were like, nothing is going to be 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.560 what this Dodgers team is offering us. Let's just move 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.720 it now and now Turks Google will be a Dodger, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.160 be in the dugout for today's game against the Red Sox, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.560 pitching at some point in the Chicago series next week. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.360 Dodgers somehow just got better. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:28.600 Somehow. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:32.519 It's because they they start at the bottom, and they 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.400 start at the top and the sides everywhere around the organization. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:41.519 The way this package came together is so funny. Zire 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:46.760 Hope is part of the trade package for Michael Bush. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:47.519 Two off seasons ago. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.959 You're like, looking, listen, you know, Michael Bush probably has 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.520 the hit tool, could play for any other team, but 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.920 the Dodgers right now, they send him away, get a 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:00.280 couple of dudes back who immediately bump up their farms system, 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.920 the rankings. And then River Ryan somebody I have talked 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.000 so much about River Ryan for the last three years 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.640 to have only seen twenty and one third innings of 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.400 him pitching in a Dodger uniform. So that's a little frustrating, 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.520 but still you get him for Matt Baty A what 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.040 late round I think it was like a fourteenth thirteenth 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.720 round pick a number of years ago. Trade him to 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.160 the Padres another it's a great deal for the Dodgers, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.440 it's honestly a good deal for the Tigers, and it's 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.560 a fleece all at the same time, Andrew Fleisman strikes again. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.960 Like when they build the statue, I pray, I hope 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.120 to God or any deity you pray to, I hope 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.640 it's in that damn robe, because that is what Friedman 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.600 Friedman Statue needs to be and what we all deserve 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:44.080 to see. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.280 What pisses me off about that robe picture is that 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.120 Uraschmarkazi or whatever the frick his name is, was not 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.320 supposed to take that picture and now it's like the 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.560 one freaking picture all over the internet. But that's for 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.880 a different podcast. Let me ask you this. I have 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.120 so much freaking things that I want to say, but 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.480 I want to go through the deal, and Katie is 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.720 the one to go through the deal. So the Dodgers 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.640 send a package of three prospects. Number six prospect outfielders 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.840 are your hope. Of course. Number nine prospect or right 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.240 handed pitcher River Ryan. We just discussed that. Number twenty 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:15.080 seven prospect, right handed pitcher, Brady Smith. But Katie, there 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.760 were other deals perhaps in play. What more can you 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:18.480 tell us about that? 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.960 So I think when you're the Dodgers and you have 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.960 such a deep farm system, it's built to absorb hits 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.680 like this, so when we're still piecing together things finding 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.200 things out. But the Dodgers had multiple packages as they 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.760 were looking at and it's interesting to see, like internally 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.359 how this plays out. So you're thinking just based on 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.600 and this is just my speculation based on very very 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.960 clue reporting that maybe Kendall George is in one of 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.160 the packages, maybe Emmett Shean. But eventually the Dodgers internally 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.120 decide this is the package we are willing to offer 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.800 for Scoogle. It's Hope, it's River Ryan, it's Brady Smith. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.279 And we knew based on a couple of days ago 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.720 from reporting here at the Athletic that's the hero of 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.120 those four outfielders to Paula Kutzero Serota Hope, that was 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.799 the guy that the Dodger were most confident in moving. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.200 And let's to say nothing of is a here Hope, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.640 but very look at those numbers, A very talented young 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.520 prospect lots of pop, lots of slug. He's going to, 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.080 you know, if the productions pan out, be an impact 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.400 bat for these Tigers in a couple of years. But 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.200 because of the deep outfield systems and we've talked about 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:21.400 all month, he was expendable. And the Dodgers were like, Okay, look, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.680 we're really high onto Paula. We think we have a 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.280 true major league caliber player in Sarona Cantaro's coming along. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:29.839 We have to come up something to value though. We 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.279 think that can be hope, So for him to headline 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.320 this package. The interesting part was River Ryan because as 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.160 we know, the injury history has been a lot and 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.520 when you're looking at River Ryan and what he was 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.440 supposed to project be for the Dodgers of the season, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.320 I mean, this is someone that Andrew Frieman said on 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.479 our show, the picture one of the pictures he was 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.960 most excited to see this season, and the stuff the below, 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.320 all these things that the Dodgers' internal talent evaluators were 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.920 jeweling over that made him what they hoped would be 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.159 a valuable second half option, whether it was as a 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.880 spot starter or maybe that be and the stuff plays 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.520 up even more and relief after that second hamstring injury, 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.520 though it became clear that that window was no longer 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.200 as realistic, so the calculus changed. And for River Ryan, 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.640 if he's not going to be an impact piece for 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.599 the twenty twenty six push to win three straight World Series, 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.440 he also becomes expendable. The Dodgers are very good at 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.000 generating starting pitching depth. He send them to the Tigers. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:25.160 He highlights that trade, But Tigers were always looking for young, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.279 controllable starting pitching with the highest ceiling. That's River Ryan. Yes, 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:30.880 the injury concerns are going to be there, but for 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.920 a two month rental, then you throw on Brady Smith. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.279 This is exactly the kind of package that makes the 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.240 Dodgers able to do what they do. We're gonna care 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.320 a lot of stuff. And I'm sure we'll get into 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.560 this later on the show about how the Dodgers are 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.120 ruining baseball. They buy everything agency. Yeah, they have no 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.880 problem spending money. But they are able to do these 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.560 trades because they are so good at looking at their 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.000 farm system. And ya seta Alana, you said to Clint. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.880 They turned Michael Bush and Matt Beattie into school. That 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.400 is your textbook. Dodgers cycle They're going to go out 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.400 and try to clip Alex, callin Eric Lauer for the 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.800 same prospects nobody's talking about, develop them, let them again 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.799 to another superstar, and the cycle goes on. The Dodgers 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.239 are not just good at this because they can spend money. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.440 They're good because they draft, develop, and scout better than 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.360 any organization in the league. It's evidenced again by the strait. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.280 I would almost wonder and go out on a limb 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.840 and say they do it better than any league ever. 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.239 They do it better than any team in any league 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.280 in any sport of in terms of being able to 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.640 continue to build up your farm system and put a 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:34.080 perennially competitive, championship caliber product on the field. What I 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.560 love about what Katie was saying is the fact that 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.080 Zayre Hope and I'm not trying to dismiss their value 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.080 in terms of being I don't want missus Hope and 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.680 missus Ryan and missus Brady calling me and saying that 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.520 these kids aren't worth anything. My point is Zire Hope, River, 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.120 Ryan Brady Smith were not going to be the pieces 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.360 that the Los Angeles Dodgers needed in twenty twenty six 0:07:55.440 --> 0:08:00.560 to win their third straight World Series Championship. Able to 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.960 move those guys to other organizations, which honestly they're going 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.240 to have more opportunity to play with than they would 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.920 have in the Los Angeles Dodgers organization because they have 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.480 too many people blocking them with LA And you're able 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.800 to get Terrek Scooble back for only nine point five 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.640 million dollars. And again he's going to go to free agency, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.920 right we know that his agent is Scott Boris. Will 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.360 he parlay that into an extension? Maybe, but maybe not. 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.080 And I know that we're going to do this in 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.400 the second segment of the whole situation of not my problem, 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.480 but I have to get this off of my chest. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.880 If you are the Milwaukee Brewers or you are the 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.200 Tampa Bay Rays, which were likely landing spots for Terrek 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.360 Scooble in addition to the Los Angeles Dodgers, and I'm 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.480 going to pull this up here Adam mccalvey, who covers 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.000 the Brewers in Milwaukee for MLB dot Com, and I 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.560 have a tremendous amount of respect for He's been covering 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.520 baseball for twenty five years. I asked about a relative 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.680 comp to the package the Dodgers gave up for three 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.560 months of school and heard this and response, listen to 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:07.079 these names, Logan Henderson, Luis Penya, Bishop Letson or Josh 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.600 nth Would you have done it? First of all? 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:10.240 Who? 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:16.000 Second of all, absolutely, a frickin' lutely absolutely, if you're 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.040 going to get I mean really for an opportunity to 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:23.160 get trek scouble back to Backsie Young Award winner, a 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.240 guy that is unbelievably one of the best pitchers in 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.280 the game for three months for nine And by the way, 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.559 this is not about money. This is not about buying 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.880 terror schoobl It's nine and a half million. That is 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.600 what Katie makes a year, nine and a half billion dollars. 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.520 All you have to do is give up. All you 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.240 have to do is give up those three prospects, not 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:50.400 even a top five prospect. The Dodgers are not ruining baseball. People. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.760 The other twenty nine teams that could have easily put 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.200 a package like this together and decided not to do 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.920 it because they're so risk averse, those are the ones 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:02.400 that are ruining baseball. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:04.840 You're upsetting the Dogs. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.600 I got thoughts. I know Katie's got thoughts. We're going 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.600 to get more into the Dodgers ruining baseball in the 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:15.040 second segment. But yeah, preach, absolutely preach there because any 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.000 other so many other teams could have done this. The 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:21.400 Tigers could have ponied up the dough to keep their 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:26.040 homegrown superstar in the organization. The Boston Red Sox could 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:30.319 have ponied up the dough to pay Mookie Betts a 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.480 fair wage after paying him pennies for the first seven. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:34.360 Years of his contract. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.440 It was more than pennies, but still Freddy Freeman, the 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.559 Braves could have given him one more goddamn year on 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.880 that free agent deal for him to remain a franchise icon. 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.920 It's not the Dodgers' fault that these poor, defenseless players 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:53.439 were left without jobs or left without good paychecks or whatever. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.280 The Dodgers are in this position where yes, they have 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.280 the money they could flex, but they all so have 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:01.160 the talent. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:05.199 They can move and they it shit or get off 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:05.760 the pot. 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.480 And the Brewers didn't want to get off the pot, 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.600 and they are that is a stacked farm system. By 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.800 the way, They could have made this deal happen very 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.880 easily and not really bad at an eyelash. But the 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.640 thing is those guys are going to be cheap for 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.600 years to come. And as we've seen, we saw them 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.720 trade away Freddy Peralta, you saw them trade. 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.439 Away Devin Williams. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.800 They don't want to pay their stars either, because these 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.520 billionaires are fucking cheap and they just want to make 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.800 as much money and while maintaining a. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.880 Little bit of you know what am I looking for here? 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.880 The team being good. That's how I'm gonna say it tonight, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.960 this morning, whatever time has no meaning. Dodgers are good. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.880 Dodgers are good. They're built for this kind of stuff. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.480 And one last thing I will add, with somebody like 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:58.199 a Zaire Hope fifty twenty five years ago, twenty years ago, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.400 sire Hope would have been the type of Dodge player 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.319 to come up with the Dodgers. Think of Matt Kemp 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.600 coming up with the Dodgers as a twenty one year 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.679 old making an impact on the organization. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:08.600 It takes time. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.800 Dodgers don't have the benefit of time anymore to let 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.760 these prospects figure themselves out at. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:15.480 The big league level. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.040 So this is what you do when you're able to win, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.720 You go out there and do it. And thank God 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.240 Andrew in his robe is able to do it. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.559 Not for nothing. But there's another thing, And I'm drawing 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.960 a lot on what other people are saying that have 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.720 been in the trenches far more than I have. For example, 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.040 our boy Jerry Herson Junior, who is a clown but 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.560 I love him to death, but he knows a lot 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.720 of stuff in terms of all of these types of things. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:44.200 When you look at the fact that he was win 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.560 this team going through the bankruptcy era, right, And then 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.240 the new ownership group came in and Mark Walter and 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.720 Goggenheim and all of the things and said, we promise 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.800 you guys that we're going to put a winning product 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.840 on the field. Nobody wanted to talk about the Dodgers 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.720 when we were in the Frank McCourt era and we 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.960 were absolutely sucking wind at everything. It didn't seem to 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.040 mod to bother them. Then, But then you get an 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.640 ownership group that actually cares about winning, and all of 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.560 a sudden, the Dodgers are the evil Empire. Let me 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.679 tell you something, The Mets spend just as much as 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.880 the frickin' Dodgers do, and they're going in a completely 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.720 different direction. You don't think Steve Cohen First of all, 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.679 Steve Cohen has more money than Mark Walter, more money 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.320 than God. And the Mets are terrible. So you know what, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.200 let me tell you something. When the Dodgers were sucking 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.360 so badly in the mccurt era, no one wanted to 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.240 say anything. Then you have an ownership group that comes 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.319 in and actually gives a shit about winning, and everybody 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.680 hates the Dodgers, and all of a sudden, this is 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.800 for a whole other topic. I can't I have so 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.000 much to say about this and the lockout and this, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.160 that and the other thing, because everyone's like loving to 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.680 like pour into the narrative that, oh my god, this 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.160 is absolutely why we're going to have a lockout. Let 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.600 me tell you something, kids, owners we're gonna lock out 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:07.200 the players any way, regardless, if Eric Schooble went to 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.240 play for the Savannah Bananas. 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:17.120 I'd pay to see that, to be honest, they is 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.680 this the best starting rotation ever assembled? 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.320 Feels like when Healthy went Healthy? 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.360 I mean, isn't that like we're me at least I 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.480 was begging for a storyline in August because they were 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.280 going to go on cruise control. You know, they're not 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.080 going for the wind record, they respectfully do not care 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:34.840 about the regular season. And now guess what, we have 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.920 a talking point because this rotation. I honestly think the 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.600 way that this stacked up. If the Dodgers have Smell 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.000 and Glass now back, maybe two weeks earlier, I wonder 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.120 how much that changes the calculus. Because we said all 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.600 along the Dodgers they don't need schoobl We don't think 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.800 we don't have any acute needs. Okay, but you have 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.440 some wants and desires. And when Andrew Pruveman wants something, 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.720 he's gonna go get it, as we've seen time and 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.000 time again. But let's look at the state of this rotation. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:03.560 Right now. It's Sunday. It's Sunday, Tuesday, Blake Snell will 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.800 make what a scheduled to be his final rehab start 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.480 with OKAC five innings, seventy five pitches, you know the drill. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.400 Tyler Glass now also starting a rehab assignment two innings 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:16.080 with Class A Ontario in Lake Elsnore. So you're looking around, 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.920 maybe the who next homestand I believe it's Royal's Brewers. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.000 When Blake Snell can come back, Tyler Glass now is 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.960 gonna need three probably four rehab assignments, so later in August, 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.640 you know you're getting your big guns back. You don't 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.800 know what they're gonna look like healthwise, but you're feeling 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.200 pretty confident about it. You're not feeling although the Dodgers 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.880 say that they are confident about where Shoheo Twani stands. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.920 He hasn't pitched in the game since July third, has 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.160 not thrown a bullpen since July twenty second. Andrew Friedman 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.520 said that he expects Tani will throw a bullpen relatively soon, 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.080 so very open ended, have no idea what that means. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.960 And they've said, okay, well a Tawny's gonna throw, we 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.360 know he's gonna come back to the rotation and be 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.760 available for October. That's a lot of ifs and a 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.560 lot of question marks. And once he had all those 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.480 kind of floating together, the fact it just made Schoogle 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.960 so much more likely. It just started to make sense. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:01.640 And that's when you kind of saw the Dodgers were 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.120 doing their their due diligence, their typical Dodgers downplay. But 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.040 reading Schoogle here, think about this. In a playoff rotation, 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.400 you need four max. So the Dodgers have one with 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:18.800 three in any particular order, Yamamoto, Schoogle, Snell, Glass, Snell, Otani, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.520 one of those guys go to the bullpen, or this 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.320 is the conversation down down the road. When we know 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.160 have more clarity about Otani's health, the Dodgers could say, 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.360 you know what, show hey, you have the most value 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.280 to us as a hitter only, so we're gonna just 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.160 keep you out of the playoff rotation, will use you 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.160 when necessary. He doesn't count against them, and the arms 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:38.880 you can carry on the roster. Because it's the whole 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.120 two way thing. It really works out in such an 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.840 ideal way for the Dodgers where even if they do 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.120 need Otani to throw one, they can do that and 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.680 so that and the lineup. So there's so many different 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.800 ways they could look at this rotation. And that's not 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:55.160 even including All Star Justin Robleski triple digit Roki Sasaki, 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.520 who said three really really encouraging stars to start in 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.600 the second half. Those guys along with them and she 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.160 and go to the bullpen with Edwin Diaz and Tylor Scott. 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.200 What are we doing here? It's the best pitching staff 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.160 in baseball, maybe the best pitching one of the best 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.840 pitching staff's ever assembled. The Dodger all about taking their 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.160 best fourteen arms available. They got them. 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.200 Yeah, I mean you look at it, according to MLB 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.639 MLB Network Research Department, which I love those guys over there, 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.800 they're incredibly, incredibly helpful. The rich, get richer guys. Google 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.879 joins the starting rotation in Los Angeles that already leads 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.679 Major League Baseball with a three three six er, just 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.360 a fraction of a percentage point ahead of the Brewers 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.840 at three point three six And to add to the fund, 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.600 as Katie just said, the Dodgers expecting to get both 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.920 Blake Snell elbow and Tyler Glasnow back from the IL 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.160 over the next month. Much more to come on. 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:44.159 Here, you guys. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.639 I appreciate you guys letting me scream and ramp, but 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.560 this is exciting. Don't hate the player, hate the game, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:54.240 and don't hate the Dodgers, hate the league. 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.479 We don't have WU on this graphic, but it is 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:02.200 time for not my problem presented by Fox one. And 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.200 we keep hearing that what the Dodgers, obviously we already 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.320 talked about what the Dodgers are doing, it's not fair 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.439 for baseball. They're going to ruin baseball? What does this 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.880 do for baseball? With the expiration of the CBA come 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.320 in in the lockout already looming. And by the way, 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:22.320 you know Fox one is streaming now, Katie. I've bitched 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.879 a little bit and had my thoughts. Alana has gotten 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.240 on her soapbox greatly too much to the joy of 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:29.320 the people in the chat. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:34.159 How how does like are the Dodgers running baseball? 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.080 The Dodgers breaking baseball right now with another insane. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:43.080 Move and this is all allowed within the CBA. And 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.160 part of the reason why I think this deal got 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.719 done so quickly, because again it was surprising that this 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.399 went down at nine pm on a Saturday night. Usually 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.480 with these deadline deals for like counting seconds till that 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.080 like you know, pencils down moment. But I think it's 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.960 because the other teams were to be in this. The Brewer, 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.560 the Rays weren't willing, like Alana said, to involve their 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.879 top prospects. And the Dodgers have a farm system that 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.480 can absorb moving three top thirty prospects. They're just fine. 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.679 And this is again with all respects of the players 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.399 that they moved. It speaks more to the depth of 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.240 the Dodgers system. So if you're going to be upset 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.280 about the Dodgers spending money, okay, I'm not gonna sit 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:20.960 here and be naive and say, you know, a team 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:22.880 with the market size like New York and the Dodgers 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.200 can compete with the market size of Cincinnati or Pittsburgh. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.400 But all teams are capable of spending money on players 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.720 that they want. Risk averse was a phrase that a 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.560 lot of use that I thought was spot on because 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.040 it comes to the Brewers. They are so so good 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.240 at player development, but they're not very good at taking risks. 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.160