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Speaker 2: You know this move was really classless. It really was.

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Speaker 3: a minute. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday

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Speaker 3: your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving was great and no complaints. It was a good time.

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Speaker 5: Football was everywhere, so I am happy and excited about it.

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Speaker 3: Football was, in fact everywhere. And I tell you what,

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Speaker 3: I hope you had a great one. I hope everybody

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Speaker 3: else on our staff had a great one as well.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, A couple of takeaways that happened

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Speaker 3: over the last forty eight hours, and one of them

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Speaker 3: involved you in your school, your former school, University of

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Speaker 3: North Carolina. You know, Matt Brown was fired okay, and

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Speaker 3: he's a football coach. He's been there twice. They fired him.

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Speaker 3: I think there was a classic move to fire the man.

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Speaker 3: The announcement came one day after he said he was

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Speaker 3: going to return for twenty twenty five as a head coach,

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Speaker 3: and he lost to James Madison, as you know this year,

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Speaker 3: seventy to fifty at home. That was a non conference game,

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Speaker 3: and he had to clarify after that game he was

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Speaker 3: not resigning, after suggesting he would step aside if the

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Speaker 3: team's issues could be not fixed. Okay, they finished six

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Speaker 3: and six this year. They lost to NC State yesterday

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Speaker 3: thirty five thirty.

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Speaker 1: But to me, to.

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Speaker 3: Fire a man who has done so much and has

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Speaker 3: accomplished so much at that school is a classless move.

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Speaker 2: Let him resign. I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: Mac Brown has tort Your eighty eight career wins, the

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Speaker 3: eighth most by a head coach in FBS history. This Paterno,

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Speaker 3: this bout In, this Pop Warner, this Bart, Brian amos, Alonzo, stag,

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Speaker 3: Nick Saban, Brian Kelly, and your coach, Matt Brown. And

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Speaker 3: how does that school do that? I say a hex

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Speaker 3: on North Carolina. I know you're a tar heel in

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Speaker 3: and out, but what they did to Matt Brown was

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Speaker 3: ridiculous and classless.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Look, it's tough because I love Coach text coach earlier

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Speaker 5: this week after all of this stuff went down and

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Speaker 5: just talked about he had such impact on me and

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Speaker 5: so many of my teammates' lives in terms of being

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Speaker 5: a positive role model, in terms of teaching us how

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Speaker 5: to handle.

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Speaker 4: Life good and bad in those things.

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Speaker 5: And I think what happens is when you're as compassionate

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Speaker 5: as caring against Coach Brown, you kind of want people

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Speaker 5: to offer that in return. But at the same time,

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Speaker 5: we're in such a different space in the college football

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Speaker 5: landscape where after the James Madison game, when Coach Brown

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Speaker 5: gives the emotional speech to the team and he talks

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Speaker 5: about possibly return what he did, he opened the door

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Speaker 5: for the people that felt like he was too old

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Speaker 5: to be on the sideline to kind of have their

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Speaker 5: on to the next coach. And I would have liked

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Speaker 5: to have seen them like wait till the end of

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Speaker 5: the season, before any announcement was made, because Coach Brown

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Speaker 5: after the game, he talked about how difficult it was

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Speaker 4: Under these circumstances.

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Speaker 5: You had the death of a player early in the year,

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Speaker 5: then you have the pressure of this is his last game,

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Speaker 5: you gotta win his last game, and all the pressure

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Speaker 5: that comes with that, and so the team they feel

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Speaker 5: like failures because they weren't able to come through and

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Speaker 5: what should be kind of like a ceremonious ordeal where

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Speaker 5: you win the game, they kind of lift him up,

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Speaker 5: wish it had been handled in a different way to

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Speaker 5: lessen the pressure on the players and to also make

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Speaker 5: sure you give him his proper respect In time, I

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Speaker 5: think some of the hard feelings that exist between Coach

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Speaker 5: Brown and the university just because of the way that

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Speaker 5: the ending happened will subside and he'll be able to

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Speaker 5: come back, and they probably name Field after him in

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it look for a bitter taste of them

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Speaker 4: for sure, me too.

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Speaker 3: Really, the only coach with one hundred plus wins at

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Speaker 3: multiple multiple FBS schools one hundred and thirteen at your school,

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Speaker 3: North Carolina one hundred and fifty nine, one hundred fifty eight,

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Speaker 3: I believe it is a Texas round, the winningest coach

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Speaker 3: in North Carolina history when one thirteen to seventy eight

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Speaker 3: and one over sixteen years had two stints. As you

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Speaker 3: know in North Carolina ranks eighth. As I mentioned old

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Speaker 3: time FBS. Okay, we move on. At least we're on

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Speaker 3: the same page here. It hurt me, It discussed me.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just a bad move. I mean it

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Speaker 3: makes the school look bad. Now, let's get into the

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Speaker 3: games yesterday, and one of the big games, obviously was

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Speaker 3: Ohio State losing to Michigan, and a couple of takeaways

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Speaker 3: which I thought was disgusting. It happened in a couple

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Speaker 3: of other games. But here's the thing that I couldn't

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Speaker 3: stand another takeaway. It's ridiculous these morons, and they are

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Speaker 3: morons in the Columbus region that root for the Ahard

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Speaker 3: State University Buckeyes.

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Speaker 2: They want Ryan Theay fired. They want to.

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Speaker 3: God that that was the away after the game yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He was a thirteen to ten game, a tremendous football game,

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Speaker 3: came down to the wire on the field goal, and

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Speaker 3: now they won Ryan day fire. Let's talk about Ryan

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Speaker 3: Day for just as second as I can. He's been

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Speaker 3: coaching Ohio State for six years, got them to the

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Speaker 3: playoffs three times. Twice, he took him there when only

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Speaker 3: fourteens qualified. His teams have won sixty and lost only ten.

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Speaker 3: All right, the second best winning percentage in Ohio State history.

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Speaker 3: This year obviously ten and two. They lost to Oregon

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Speaker 3: thirty two to thirty one. They beat number three Pence State.

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Speaker 3: They outscored their opposition like three to one, something like

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Speaker 3: three hundred and eighty points to one fifteen. All right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: tell me why every postgame analyst on TV, every newspaper guy,

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Speaker 3: every fantas calling for his head. They say he can't

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Speaker 3: win the big one.

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Speaker 2: Really is that? Come on, look at you do your homework.

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Speaker 2: He's won a lot of big games.

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Speaker 3: The Michigan loss obviously in the last minute field goal

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Speaker 3: thirteen to ten, and the folks at Columbus are crazy.

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Speaker 3: Woody Hayes the iconic Ohio State coach. Coach twenty eight

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Speaker 3: years at Ohio State. He lost eleven times to Michigan.

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Speaker 3: He did win six, TV tied one. Tell me what's

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Speaker 3: wrong with society today? Do they want Ryan Day fire

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Speaker 3: tell me, well.

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Speaker 4: I mean fan is sure for a fanatic. And when

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Speaker 4: you have a Rabbit fan base whose entire focus.

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Speaker 5: All year is on one game, the Michigan game, it's

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Speaker 5: hard for them to look past that. But what Ohio

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Speaker 5: make sure he does is long term vision, not short term.

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Speaker 5: He can't worry about the one game to Michigan. When

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Speaker 5: the look Ryan Day, I think he's gonna have one

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Speaker 5: loss to a big ten team outside of Michigan.

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Speaker 4: That's not a fireball offense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you want to win the robbery game, you want

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Speaker 5: to do all those other things. But to me, I

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Speaker 5: think Ryan Day and Ohio State they may make too

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Speaker 5: big of an emphasis on the Michigan game and it

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Speaker 5: creates a pressure on them that they can't withstand.

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Speaker 4: They have to find a way to lighten the load.

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Speaker 4: And remember Jim.

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Speaker 5: Harbough started out her to five against Ohio State before

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Speaker 5: he turned it around, before they were able to start

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Speaker 5: winning games, and so their ebbs and flows and rivalry games.

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Speaker 5: Ohio State can't allow the Michigan failures to prompt them

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Speaker 4: Because my next question.

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Speaker 5: Would be who's coming in there to pick up the

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Speaker 5: right now, I don't know who that hot coach is

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Speaker 5: that could go in that pressure cooker and surpass what

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Speaker 5: he's already established at Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, who would want to and more than that,

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Speaker 3: who would want to see? I ain't going that seat.

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Speaker 3: That seat's always hot. You know, you could win every

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Speaker 3: the line. It's crazy, it really is. I get it.

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Speaker 3: It's a great game. That called the game, but does

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Speaker 5: I just I just don't haven't been to it.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you it's bananas, And I never knew.

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Speaker 4: I thought I knew rivalries.

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Speaker 5: I've been to Carolina Duke basketball games and those things,

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Speaker 5: But that game is bananas. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: So I do.

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Speaker 5: Understand the magnitude of the game, but I do not

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Speaker 2: I would be shocked if he got fired. I would

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Speaker 3: But you know, maybe not totally shocked, but so much

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Speaker 3: shocked because there's a possibility he might really I mean,

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Speaker 2: And that's the pressure he's under, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he is under significant pressure. It is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's a different deal, man, It's a different

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Speaker 5: But that's big time football. I mean, just think about this.

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Speaker 5: You have people that have man at James Franklin because

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Speaker 5: It's not like they just pass out those things. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: so the college football landscape is different, the pressure on

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Speaker 5: when you start taking money for fans and passing it

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Speaker 4: Stake in the program success.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we've created because college sports are now

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Speaker 5: pro sports. So some of this is I mean a

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Speaker 5: part of it. And when you're Ryan Day and you're

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Speaker 5: soliciting money for a collective to pay for the best

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Speaker 5: result of that too. Guys are paying a lot of money.

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Speaker 5: They want to see success, and when they don't have success,

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, it really is.

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Speaker 3: So iiO State's loss kind of opened the door for

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Speaker 3: tenshi Chhip games is twenty sixteen. They rolled over Maryland

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Speaker 4: They're good enough to be anybody.

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Speaker 4: They expanded playoffs. Any team can win this thing.

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Speaker 5: We're seeing the college football landscape. We just saw all

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Speaker 3: I want to push the calendar back a little bit

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Speaker 3: I mean Olie Gordon was my guy for the Heisman

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Speaker 5: You know what's so crazy is he can win the

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Speaker 5: We've seen him make big playoff the big play on defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I just worry about like ultimately, for Notre Dame, it

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Speaker 5: always comes down to this, right, It always comes down

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Speaker 5: to are they going to be fast enough to take

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Speaker 5: on the fastest teams that are left in the tournament.

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Speaker 5: When Notre Dame matches up with the Georgia, do they

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Speaker 5: have enough speed and athleticism to match up with them?

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Speaker 5: That's the trick. They're a really good team, They're world coached.

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Speaker 5: I love the edge that Marcus Freeman has given his team.

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Speaker 5: I just don't know from an athletic standpoint, do they

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Speaker 5: have enough explosive players to deal with the top teams.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will say this, I don't think Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 3: gets enough credit. Not only a Notre Dame. But I

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Speaker 3: know when he was coaching at the University of Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: as an assistant coach, everybody gave the credit to Luke Fickel,

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Speaker 3: and Luke Figkel hasn't done anything in Wisconsin the last

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Speaker 3: two years, and obviously when Marcus Freeman left, that's when

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati program kind of hit rock bottom. And I

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Speaker 3: understand transferring from the American Conference to the Big Ten

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Speaker 3: Big twelve, I mean Big twelve is a big difference,

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Speaker 3: a major difference, but still in all the competition and

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Speaker 3: the type of player that has gone to Cincinnati and

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Speaker 3: the way they play is a lot different since Marcus

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Speaker 3: Freeman has left.

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Speaker 4: I can see that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Luke Fickle certainly misses him, not only in terms

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Speaker 5: of what he was able to do defensively as his

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator. I'm sure the impact that he had on

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Speaker 5: the kids there, maybe the calming influence or maybe the

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Speaker 5: fire that he might have brought as an assistant coach,

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Speaker 5: they missed that. I'll say for Filical, going from Cincinnati Wisconsin,

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Speaker 5: to me, the biggest thing where he has messed up.

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Speaker 5: He has changed the brand or attempted to change the

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Speaker 5: brand of football that made Wisconsin successful. Wisconsin is an

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Speaker 5: old school, blue collar, hard hat, lunch pill team, and

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Speaker 5: they become a team that wanted to throw it all

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Speaker 5: over the yard using airy concepts in those things. That's

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Speaker 5: not Wisconsin football. And so he has to get back

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Speaker 5: to that. But yeah, like Marcus Freeman, I will say

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Speaker 5: is underrated.

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Speaker 4: And the job that he's.

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Speaker 5: Done, which is a tough job, the job that he's

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Speaker 5: done replacing Brian Kelly Man, he deserves a lot of

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Speaker 5: credit for it, no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt about that. All right, let's move on right now,

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Speaker 3: because he is Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman.

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Speaker 3: let's get into this to little NFL games. Let's go

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Speaker 3: back to Friday now and kind of a strange ending

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League. I'm talking about that Kansas

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Speaker 3: City game against the Las Vegas Raiders. Bucket about fifteen

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Speaker 3: seconds left the game with the fourth quarter, the Raiders

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Speaker 3: spiked the ball on second down in the Chiefs thirty

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Speaker 3: two yard line. The next play, the center of the

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Speaker 3: Raiders snapped the ball before their quarterback ad and O'Connell

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Speaker 3: was ready for it, and the ball hit the ground

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Speaker 3: and the Chiefs recovered it. Okay, And after that ball

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Speaker 3: was recovered, it seemed like the play had been blown

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Speaker 3: dead and there was like a full start penalty, but

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Speaker 3: after the officials got together, the penalty was instead changed

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Speaker 3: to an illegal shift. The Chiefs declined, they kept the ball,

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Speaker 3: they kneeled on it, the game was over. Nineteen seventeen,

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Speaker 3: Chiefs win again. They just escaped it once again. But

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Speaker 3: what was the deal with that that ending? I never

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Speaker 3: saw anything like that, and I'm sure it was a

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Speaker 3: ridiculous play because I don't know why aid and o'donald

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Speaker 3: was ready for the ball and the ball hit the ground?

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Speaker 2: What was going on?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 5: A few different things one on one. You have to

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Speaker 5: say it like to give it context. Kansas City is

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Speaker 5: a very difficult place to play. It's loud, just the

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Speaker 5: way the stadium is constructed. Man, I mean, you can't

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Speaker 5: hear yourself, think unit situation, fifteen seconds left, Like they

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Speaker 5: clocked the ball, they're trying to get the play organized,

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Speaker 5: trying to get everyone lined up, and what happened. They

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Speaker 5: get up the huddle late, so Aid and O'Connell is clapping,

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Speaker 5: exhorting his team to get ready. But what happens is

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Speaker 5: so many teams have gone to the silent coump where

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Speaker 5: they're using the clap to initiate the play, that the

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Speaker 5: right guard gets confused.

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Speaker 4: He taps the center.

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Speaker 5: The center snaps the ball while Aid O'Connell is not

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Speaker 5: looking because in his mind he's trying to get everyone

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Speaker 5: ready and he just didn't think that his clap initiated

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Speaker 5: the snap. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate for the Raiders that

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Speaker 5: it plays out like that. But yeah, the mechanics of

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Speaker 5: orchestrating a two minute drill something things. You still can't

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Speaker 5: account for it because the Durro was flawless up until

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Speaker 5: that point, particularly coming off the heels of the way.

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Speaker 5: The Chicago Bears fumbled it, the Raiders ran it right,

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Speaker 5: but at the end, like a simple miscommunication caused him

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Speaker 5: to lose the ball on an Aaron snap and to

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Credit is one of the reasons why you're here.

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Speaker 5: Defensive coaches always exhort their players pick up any ball

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Speaker 5: the histor ground because.

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Speaker 4: You just don't know.

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Speaker 5: Nick Bolden picking up that ball gave the Chiefs an

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Speaker 5: option to take the recovery as opposed.

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Speaker 4: To just selling for the penalty. So it was heads

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Speaker 4: up played by them.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm glad your brother the Chicago Bears, and

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Speaker 3: which is Thanksgiving night? Thursday night, time ran out for

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Speaker 3: the Bears. They lost twenty three to twenty to the

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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions. The coach not Eba Fleus, He's gone right now.

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Speaker 3: He did not call a time out with thirty two

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Speaker 3: seconds remaining the Bears facing third and twenty six at

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Speaker 3: the Lions forty one after he was sacked the rookie

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Speaker 3: quarter about Caleb Williams. He tried to rush his teammates

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Speaker 3: to the line of script, but it got really slowed

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Speaker 3: down and I couldn't get the playoff. A long pass

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Speaker 3: attempt to dunsa a lot of time thrown out. Carol

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Speaker 3: Santos had a shot to tie it with a fifty

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Speaker 3: eighth field goal.

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Speaker 2: It didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to the former coach of the

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Speaker 3: Chicago Bears, Matt eba Flus, what happened after the game

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Speaker 3: on Thursday, I want to hear this.

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Speaker 4: I like what we did there.

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Speaker 6: Again, once it's under seven, you know you're gonna you're

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Speaker 6: gonna call you know, time out there or actually under twelve,

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Speaker 6: and then really you don't have an option, you know,

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Speaker 6: because it's third and fourth.

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Speaker 4: You got to throw it into the end zone.

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Speaker 6: Then, So to me, it's uh, I think we handled

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Speaker 6: it the right way, and I do believe that just

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Speaker 6: rewreck the play, get it in bounce and call time out,

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Speaker 6: and that's why we held it and didn't work out

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Speaker 6: the way we wanted it to.

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Speaker 3: You know, Bucky, if he would have, if he would

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Speaker 3: have just owned that and said, look, it was on me,

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Speaker 3: I screwed up, I think he'd still be coaching the Bears.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he said we did it the right way.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye, Gonzo, get your bags out, clean out the

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Speaker 3: lock of your gone. It is the most ridiculous thing

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Speaker 3: I ever heard of. It only had to do it

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Speaker 3: to say, look, I screwed up.

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Speaker 2: It's on me. It happens, okay. I think he would

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Speaker 2: have saved this job.

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Speaker 4: But I think it goes back farther than that.

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Speaker 5: It's not just this moment, it's the moment with the

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Speaker 5: hail mary. So going back to when they played the

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Speaker 5: Commanders and they lost the play before they gave up

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Speaker 5: the touchdown on the hill mary, he plays off covers

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Speaker 5: they completed like a thirteen yard pass to bring them closer,

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Speaker 5: so they're arranged to throw the hail mary into the

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Speaker 5: end zone. When he was asked about that, he was

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Speaker 5: asked about not only why did you just play so

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Speaker 5: soft on that play, but why didn't you call the

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Speaker 5: time out when it appeared that everyone was unorganized. He

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Speaker 5: doubled down and said, oh, we got it, We have it,

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Speaker 5: this and that. Okay, So that's one thing that you

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Speaker 5: kind of put in the pocket. Like man, they seemed unorganized,

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Speaker 5: but even then he didn't call the time out.

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Speaker 4: Why not call the.

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Speaker 5: Time out, coach, and get them organized and together and

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Speaker 5: just you know, clearly understand exactly what you want, particularly

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Speaker 5: when you got a player on the other side of

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Speaker 5: the field looking in the stand blowing kisses. All right,

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Speaker 5: so you put that you give them a break on that. Well,

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Speaker 5: now when you come and you do this on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 5: Because here's the thing about it, Andy, everyone has eyes

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Speaker 5: on that game. It is right when everyone is eating, right,

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Speaker 5: because you need to eat between the first and the

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Speaker 5: second game.

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Speaker 4: So everyone's at the dinner table.

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Speaker 5: Everyone sees what's going on, and there's not My daughter

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Speaker 5: is looking at it like, what is going on?

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Speaker 4: Why doesn't he call the time out?

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Speaker 5: Because they look confused, the clock is running and all

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Speaker 5: of that. And so when you go through that and

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00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 5: then you double down and you say, you know what,

640
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Speaker 5: I think we handled it the right way.

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Speaker 4: No one in the right.

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Speaker 5: Mind can continue to have confidence in the coach if

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Speaker 5: the coach can't acknowledge, man, I just should have called

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Speaker 5: to come out. We were unorganized and got a rookie

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Speaker 5: quarterback who obviously doesn't understand the urgency of the moment.

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Speaker 5: He throws it away because some of it should also

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Speaker 5: fall to Kayler Williams knowing what's time?

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Speaker 4: Score? What do we need?

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Speaker 5: We don't need a touchdown? Why are you throwing it

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Speaker 5: down the field? We just need a field goal? Any

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Speaker 5: of those things. But yeah, Matt Ebranfleu's not only lost fans,

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Speaker 5: he lost his players. Because the players are looking around

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Speaker 5: because you have so many vets. They're looking around and wondering,

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Speaker 5: what are you doing. We've been in this situation before

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Speaker 5: with you or other coaches, and we've seen other coaches

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Speaker 5: execute at a high level.

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Speaker 4: This signal is a level of incompetence.

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Speaker 5: And it's hard for me to say that, like to

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Speaker 5: a coach like man, that's incompetence.

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Speaker 4: But he's failed in multiple situations doing that.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, he look, it was gonna be hard for

662
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Speaker 5: him to continue to go back into the locker room.

663
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Speaker 3: I think it would be hard for him to get

664
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Speaker 3: hooked onto another team as a coach, don't you think.

665
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

666
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so, because, like, it's different being

667
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 5: a head coach as opposed to being a coordinator. Right,

668
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: So when you're the head coach, so many things fall

669
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Speaker 5: on your shoulders.

670
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 4: Right. You have to manage the game.

671
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: You have to tie all three phases together, the offense, defense,

672
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Speaker 5: special teams. You got to orchestrate how the game is

673
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: going to be played. You got to no time score situation.

674
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: What I want to do here, take all of that

675
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 5: obscure rules that you can use to your advantage, like

676
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Speaker 5: we've seen the Patriots do in the pass by.

677
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: Rabel did it when he was with the Titan.

678
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 5: So you have to have a lot of stuff and

679
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 5: normally if you're going to delegate that stuff.

680
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: So normally in the situation, Andy, there's someone on your.

681
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 5: Staff who's responsible for what we call clock management. He'll

682
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: signal to the coach, a coach, we need to burn

683
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 5: a time out here, like hey, coach, he's in the headset, like, hey,

684
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 5: after this play, we won't call our time out.

685
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Speaker 4: Okay, cool.

686
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 5: When I was in Carolina, Jim Skipper was the clock

687
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 5: management guy to John Fox. So Fox he's the head coach,

688
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 5: but Skipper would be the one a Fox, we needed

689
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 5: you to just time out right now, and he's all

690
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 5: right and do it. So if he doesn't have that,

691
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: if he hasn't delegated that, if he's taking it all

692
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: on himself, yeah, that's that's on him.

693
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: He can't he can't do that. Like that's just poor organization.

694
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: I hear you.

695
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: All right.

696
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: It was ugly, It was ridiculous. You don't expect that

697
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. But we move on. You know,

698
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: one of the games that really and truly gave you

699
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: a chance to kind of maybe take a little bit

700
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: of an app when you see the Giants playing the Cowboys.

701
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: That was a game like really and truly, as my

702
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: buddy Mike North was saying, it was that it was

703
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: my backyard. I closed the drapes. Really the Cowboys be

704
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: Cowboys beat the Giants twenty three to twenty. Rick Daddell

705
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: he rushed for like what one hundred and twelve yards

706
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: in a touchdown. But the Giants quarterback now is Drew Lock?

707
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: Is he the quarterback of the future. Drew Locke was

708
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: twenty one for thirty two for one to seven eight

709
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: and an I int But is Drew Lock gonna be

710
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: the next Giant quarterback? I don't know, what do you think.

711
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 5: No, he's like to be the quarterback in the future.

712
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 5: They're gonna have to draft one. And I loved you Lock.

713
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: I've known him since he was a high schooler. No,

714
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Speaker 5: if they thought he was gonna be the quarterback in

715
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 5: the future, the ball would have been handed to him

716
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 5: insteady Tommy Cutler's when they decided to move on from

717
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones. He'd be a backup player. And the Giants

718
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 5: will go into the draft and kind of figure out

719
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 5: who they can find as their franchise quarterback. But they

720
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 5: have to make decisions, right like the reality evidence, they

721
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 5: have to make decisions on whether Brian Dave Wall is

722
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: coming back. There's a conversation about Joe Shane the general manager,

723
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 5: will he come back and all.

724
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: Those other things.

725
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 5: So those conversations will ultimately determine who becomes the quarterback.

726
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, and at a time when the quarterback class

727
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 5: it's coming up, it's not the greatest. The Giants are

728
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 5: having to go to the grocery store when you're hungry,

729
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 5: and you know you can't go to the grocery store

730
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 5: when you hunt. You made bad decisions to the grocery store, right,

731
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: you end up with like six packs of Oreos when.

732
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: You really don't like oreos.

733
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: I love Oreos.

734
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: Wow, But that's what that's what's gonna happen.

735
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a tough off season for the

736
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Speaker 5: New York Giants and it's look, man, it only is

737
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 5: uh feel further by the the Saquon Barkley planning at

738
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 5: the MVP level, that would be the worst thing to

739
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 5: happen if he gets named league MVP.

740
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: It's gonna drive the Marris crazy.

741
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh, he changes all right, you know, don't

742
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: look now, but it come. The green Bay Packers really

743
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: thirty two seventeen over the Dolphins on Thanksgiving.

744
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: But here's the thing that kind of got me.

745
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 3: I mean, one of the Dolphins players believe that the

746
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: cold weather dictates of.

747
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: The performance that is weak.

748
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you got you gotta go out there and

749
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: face the elements, you really do. Linebacker Jordan Brooks. He

750
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: said he thought the mid twenty three temperature in green

751
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: Bay played the role. Come on, really, you're a pro bucket,

752
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: you played the You gotta expect that, you know. I

753
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: talked to Bill Belichick one time. I said, how do

754
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: you prepare for these really cold, cold games with snow?

755
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 3: He says, Sometimes we will practice indoors, but you know what,

756
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: we'll leave the doors open. So the win of them, then.

757
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 5: Yes, you gotta you have to make them uncomfortable. Yeah,

758
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 5: for players, you gotta get them use to those things.

759
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 5: The problem when you're like in Miami, you can't simulate

760
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: those conditions.

761
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: There's nothing you can do to simulate it.

762
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Man.

763
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: You can put the air.

764
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 5: Condition on and all that, you still can't simulate that

765
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: part of it. The other thing that you can't simulate

766
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 5: is the conditions for two attacking by low all Right,

767
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: So not only is it cold, but I don't know

768
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 5: if you play golf, but when you play golf and

769
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: hot weather versus cold, where the hot weather the ball

770
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 5: flies far, they probably gives you ten more yards on

771
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 5: your drives. When you're playing in warm weather. When it's cold,

772
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 5: the ball flies shorter, so you got to you gotta

773
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 5: change and so you probably take ten yards off. Well

774
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 5: for a quarterback, those things can happen if you don't

775
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 5: have what we call like superior arm talent. For two

776
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 5: of tung about lowerd who is a rhythm passer who

777
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 5: I would say has averaged is slightly above average arm strength. Man,

778
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 5: the cold weather really impacts him. If you notice when

779
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: you look at the Miami Dolphins games in cold weather,

780
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 5: they don't throw the ball outside the numbers, they don't

781
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 5: push the ball down the field. So the cold weather

782
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 5: forces them to play in a little box. And so

783
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 5: that is also a big part of the issue that

784
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 5: they have when they play in these cold games.

785
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Speaker 4: Love to hear this.

786
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Speaker 3: Every time I hear you talk, I learned something I

787
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: really do. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firman. We are

788
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 3: Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio.

789
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: It is time for the answer man. Who's that? That's

790
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: mister Football as Bucky. It is next to Fox Sports

791
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: Radio Radio.

792
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: It's Buckey coming right up. But it's about eleven minutes

793
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Speaker 3: now before the top of the hour. He's Bucky Brooks.

794
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 3: I'm Andy Furman, and we are Fox Sports Sunday on

795
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 3: Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports.

796
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Speaker 4: Who.

797
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: I didn't want to lie from the tire Rock dot

798
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 3: Com studios, but let's go ask Bucky right now. Let's

799
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: do it. Okay, the Heisman Trophy, Bucky Brooks, that award

800
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: is right around the corner. Tell us, mister Brooks, is

801
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: it for the best player in college football or the

802
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: most valuable player to his team?

803
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

804
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 5: It really is for the best quarterback on the best

805
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 5: team in the country. It should be the best player

806
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 5: in college football. And it did that, then it should

807
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 5: go to Travis Hunter because he's the best player in

808
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: college football.

809
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: And I was going to ask the next question, this

810
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: year's award goes to and I agree with you should

811
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: be Travis Hunter.

812
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: I gotta believe that.

813
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, he should win it. He's the best player we.

814
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: Got Okay, now here's a choice question for you. You're

815
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: a general manager of a team. You're making a pick.

816
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: Sakwon Barkley or Derrick Henry.

817
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: Sakuon Barkley because he can do more. He can impact

818
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 5: the game, not only as a runner, but as a receiver.

819
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: I love Derrick Henry as an old school plugger, someone

820
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 5: that can get it done as a rushing champion. But

821
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 5: Saikwon Barkley is the best running back in terms of

822
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 5: what you want to do in today's game.

823
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: You know, I'm kind of surprised because he came off

824
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: of fairly serious injuries several years ago. If they got

825
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: out of Penn State, and he's coming back now with

826
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 3: no signs of that whatsoever, you know, and no one

827
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: even talks about that.

828
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: He had a bad knee injury.

829
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a bad knee injury. He bounce back,

830
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: He's fully back. He makes big plays. He's a look man,

831
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 5: He's an interceptional talent.

832
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: He really is all right. Next Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow.

833
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 5: Mm Justin Herbert just because of the size, I think

834
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 5: you get similar traits in terms of.

835
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Speaker 4: Both of them.

836
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 5: Both of them are good rhythm passes that can make

837
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: all the plays. But I'm gonna just go with the bigger,

838
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 5: stronger prospect than to me, that's Justin Herbert.

839
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: All right, JK. Dobbins or Joe Mixon.

840
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 5: Mixon, Joe Mixon and me, I think has always been underrated, undervalued.

841
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 5: He is someone who likes say Kwon Barkley. He can

842
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 5: do it in a few different ways as a run

843
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 5: and receiver. I would go at Joe Mixing in that scenario.

844
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Last, but not least, Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase.

845
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: That's a good one, one A one B. Give me

846
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson for skill over sheer will.

847
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: When I think about Justin Jefferson, pure route runner, outstanding

848
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: in terms of like the craft. To me, Jamar Chase

849
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: overwhelms people with a superior physicality.

850
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 4: His athleticism in those things.

851
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 5: I think in a pinch, skill wins out because a

852
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 5: skilled player can somehow win matchups even when his athleticism

853
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 5: is beginning to Wayne, there you go.

854
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk now.

855
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: NFL halftime shows from Thanksgiving night to Thanksgiving Day.

856
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna ask you a call.

857
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: The Green Bay Packers played the Miami Dollar and Lindsay

858
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: Sterling was the halftime guess, but NBC cut it short.

859
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: There was a lot of feedback and pushback on social

860
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: media after that game because I wanted to see the

861
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: entire halftime show. Instead, they showed a beautiful story at halftime,

862
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 3: which really could have been shown on the pregame show

863
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: about a player. But Lindsay Sterling, are your thoughts about

864
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: that at halftime?

865
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: It's fine.

866
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 5: They should never cut it short, but I mean, you

867
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 5: got to understand in the NFL, you got to get

868
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 5: a lot done in ten minutes.

869
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: That's what performers, so they only can give you a snippet.

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Speaker 4: She was fine.

871
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 5: I was more impressed with Shaboozy from Detroit, but you know,

872
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 5: it's fine the halftime shows at a halftime shows.

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00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to Giants Cowboys game. Jelly Rowland, Laney Wilson.

874
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was okay.

875
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 5: I mean it was very very We had we had

876
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Speaker 5: a little bit of a country theme going over Turkey Day.

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00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: But it was fine, all right, And obviously Lions rolled awesome.

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Speaker 4: Weight was aw he did. Yeah, he's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Way Lion's bear Shaboozi Shaboozy, that was big a Lion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Shaboozy, that was a big one. Yeah one got

881
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Speaker 5: that nominated. CMA's little disappointed in that, but.

882
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Speaker 4: Like the songs.

883
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Trevor Lawrence or Mac Jones. Who's

884
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Speaker 3: quarterbacking today for the Jags?

885
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Speaker 4: I can't. I can't give industry secrets.

886
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Speaker 5: I'll say I'm more likely to believe that the starter

887
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 5: is gonna play it in the backup.

888
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I hear what you're saying. There have you any

889
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: questions for me today?

890
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 4: I do.

891
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: Who do you pull for in the big game? Are you?

892
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 5: Are you state guy?

893
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 4: You're a Michigan guy.

894
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny you mentioned that I was rooting

895
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: for Michigan yesterday simply because I think that those Ohio

896
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: State fans are just blowhards, really, and that that's why

897
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: I kind of was rooting for Michigan.

898
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: But I'm an Ohio state guy. But I don't like

899
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't like what they're doing. Well, I don't know.

900
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Speaker 5: I just Andy, you can't, Andy, you can't go both ways.

901
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 5: Like I've been out there, I wanted to let you

902
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Speaker 5: buy gas. You can't buy gas in Michigan if you

903
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: are a state guy like you. I guess you have

904
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Speaker 5: to put it in a b get and keep it

905
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Speaker 5: in the back of your car. I don't know, but yeah,

906
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Speaker 5: that's tough.

907
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

908
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Speaker 3: But by the way, could that be a sophomore slump

909
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: in the NFL? One person thinks so that more.

910
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Speaker 2: Next on Fox Sunday.

911
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Speaker 3: Here you know, one has a slump, the other has

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Speaker 3: a bump.

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Speaker 2: That's right around the corner.

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Speaker 3: And obviously this is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: And here he is the main football is made for

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Speaker 2: mister Bucky Brooks. How are you Buck?

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Speaker 4: How are you man?

924
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Speaker 5: I'm great and it can't complain. It's a beautiful Sunday

925
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Speaker 5: Football sund There.

926
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Speaker 3: You know, I heard the top of the hour sportscast

927
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Speaker 3: that I knew I read about it last night. It

928
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Speaker 3: just makes me sick to my stomach. That Luke Connesseca

929
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Speaker 3: passed away at ninety nine. He was gonna be one

930
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Speaker 3: hundred on January the fifth. He didn't make it there.

931
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Speaker 3: And uh Luke Seca was a wonderful man. He taught

932
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Speaker 3: me how to eat spaghetti. He really did. I'll tell

933
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Speaker 3: you how back he did. Back in the day, I

934
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 3: was a sports information director at Saint Francis College of Brooklyn,

935
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: Division one school in basketball, and every Monday, all the

936
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Speaker 3: basketball coaches in the metropolitan area, talking about Rutgers, Seaton,

937
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: hall forda Manhattan, Saint John's Fairfield would come in from Connecticut.

938
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Speaker 3: They'd have a luncheon at Mama Leone's Italian restaurant in Manhattan.

939
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Speaker 2: And I would go. And one Monday I was there

940
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Speaker 2: and I sat next.

941
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Speaker 3: To Lou and he saw me eating spaghetti having difficulty

942
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Speaker 3: with it. He showed me how to twist it around

943
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Speaker 3: the fork, and we became fairly decent.

944
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Speaker 4: You know.

945
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: I'd send him little notes every now and again, And

946
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Speaker 3: about three four months ago he called me up and

947
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Speaker 3: it didn't sound too good, but he was ninety nine,

948
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: and you know.

949
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys. He just he was great

950
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: for the sport, great for the game.

951
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: Won five hundred and twenty four games in basketball, and uh,

952
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: you know it's sad. It's sad when you see a

953
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: guy like that go. Everybody loved Luke Connoseca. I don't

954
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: know anybody bedworth to say when they played Georgetown with

955
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Speaker 3: John Thompson and was great with the sweaters back in

956
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: the day.

957
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Speaker 2: So I will miss Louis. He was a good man.

958
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Speaker 5: He really was, yeah, really really good man. I just look, man,

959
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: I just always love those old classic be Eiest games

960
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 5: because that's kind of like my teenage years on my

961
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: way to going to college, and so I really enjoyed

962
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: that stuff. I used to watch the robberies him and

963
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 5: John Thompson go at it. It just seems so much

964
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: bigger right when they were playing the guard and all

965
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 5: those other things. And so thoughts and prayers to his family. Man,

966
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 5: what a great run ninety nine. I think we all

967
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Speaker 5: would would would would would take ninety nine years on

968
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Speaker 5: this earth. So congratulations to him on a nice run.

969
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 5: And let's let's be happy for him as opposed to

970
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Speaker 5: being sad on his.

971
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Speaker 3: Back, right, And he wasn't ill. I mean I know

972
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Speaker 3: what he had his senses. He just passed away.

973
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Speaker 2: Of old age. He just conned out. You know what happens.

974
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Speaker 3: He didn't He didn't suffer from anything, and his family

975
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Speaker 3: was around him when he passed. So God bless him

976
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Speaker 3: or may he rested piece. All right, let's let's move

977
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Speaker 3: on and talk about what you call the sophomore slump.

978
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 3: What is the sophomore slump? I hear it all the time.

979
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: I think it was a term sort of invented by

980
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Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated back in the day.

981
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: Is it real, the sophomore slump in sports?

982
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 5: It can be because it's a combination of things. Right,

983
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 5: sophomore slump is the sports world catching up with you.

984
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 5: One of the things that happens in sports is the

985
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 5: more you put yourself out there, the more people get

986
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 5: used to how you play, and they begin to adjust

987
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 5: to how you play, and you are challenged to adapt

988
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: and adjust your playing style and football, particularly at quarterback.

989
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 5: All the tape, all the defensive coordinators talk, they chat,

990
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Speaker 5: They're always scheming and tinkering in those things, and we're

991
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Speaker 5: seeing some of this stuff kind of play out.

992
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Speaker 3: Okay, this is the best part of the show for

993
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: me every Sunday because we talk about your writing pros.

994
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: It's on NFL dot Com every Friday, and you wrote

995
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 3: this week about the sophomore slump and say what's up

996
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: with CJ Stroud? And obviously CJ Stroud right now is

997
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: going to be like the next superstar in the NFL.

998
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: At least according to the stats from last year, the

999
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Speaker 3: offensive Rookie of the Year pays for over four thousand yards.

1000
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Speaker 3: So this year his numbers aren't too bad. And obviously

1001
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: I'll give him an excuse. You suffered with his teammates

1002
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: with injuries, a lot of injuries on that ball club.

1003
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Speaker 3: But do you see a drop off because of his

1004
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: skill set? What happened this year with CJ Stroud?

1005
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Speaker 4: So a few different things. As we talked about, the league.

1006
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 5: Is a tough league to be consistent, to play at

1007
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 5: a consistently high level. That's why we revere the tom

1008
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: Brady's of the world because they were able to do

1009
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 5: it for such a long time, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees

1010
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 5: and all those guys. Because the league is always adjusting

1011
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 5: to what you do as a player. The tape circulates,

1012
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 5: people use copycat schemes once someone had success, So as

1013
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 5: a player you always have to grow and evolved and

1014
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 5: continue to add.

1015
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 4: Weapons to the tool belt. For CJ.

1016
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Speaker 5: Stroud, he was very comfortable in Bobby Sloy's system as

1017
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 5: a rookie.

1018
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 4: They did some things that were unique.

1019
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Speaker 5: They did play action stuff, crossers going across the field,

1020
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 5: big home run shots and those things. This year, people

1021
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 5: are on that they're taking those things away and they're

1022
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 5: forced them to go to other pages of the playbook.

1023
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Speaker 4: When you combine that.

1024
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Speaker 5: With the fact that he's lost some of his perimeter

1025
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Speaker 5: weapons to injury this year, tang Dale, Nico Collins, and

1026
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs of all miss time.

1027
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: Digs is out for the rest of the year.

1028
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: Joe Mixon, who has giving them balance in the running game,

1029
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 5: has been in and out the lineup. He's missed three

1030
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Speaker 5: games and an offensive line that has been leaky. He's

1031
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Speaker 5: taken more sacks and been hit more. And whenever a quarterback,

1032
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 5: no matter how good he is, when a quarterback starts

1033
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 5: to get hit, they change. And he's changed because he's

1034
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 5: been hit more than he's been in the past. And

1035
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Speaker 5: he also has not he doesn't have the same chemistry

1036
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Speaker 5: that he had with his playmakers on the outside.

1037
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm glad you brought that up because you

1038
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Speaker 3: talk about a quarterback suffering the quote sophomore slow. Maybe CJ. Stroud,

1039
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Speaker 3: maybe he's not. People don't look at the offensive line.

1040
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Speaker 3: They really don't. And I'm gonna bring up an example

1041
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Speaker 3: and maybe on way off, basically I'm gonna talk about

1042
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: Jared Goff. You could drive a bus over there and

1043
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 3: they could block that bus. That's how good that offensive

1044
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: line is in Detroit. And you talk about a guy

1045
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: who probably was looked at as a as an also

1046
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: ran quarterback, and now thanks to the surrounding parts that

1047
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Speaker 3: he has in Detroit and that offensive line, Jared GoF

1048
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Speaker 3: is going to be involved, perhaps maybe in the MVP conversation.

1049
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Speaker 3: So it's funny. I mean, one quarterback looks like he's

1050
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: did a little bit. Another quarterback who basically was put

1051
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 3: out the pasture, it might be a possible MVP and

1052
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Speaker 3: Jared Goff.

1053
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but let's let's let's let's be clear when it

1054
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Speaker 5: comes to quarterbacks and what everyone has to understand about quarterback.

1055
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Speaker 4: No quarterback can do it alone.

1056
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Speaker 5: There aren't any John Wayne's out there right, There's no

1057
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 5: one who's doing it by himself, who's dealing with everybody

1058
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 5: and doesn't need any support. Every quarterback needs support. That

1059
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Speaker 5: support normally comes in the form of the three piece caller, playmaker,

1060
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 5: pass protectors. All Right, the play caller has to set

1061
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 5: you up for success by putting you in a situation

1062
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 5: where you always plan to your strips. The playmakers, the

1063
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 5: pass catches and runners around you, they need to be

1064
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 5: exceptional to be able to catch the passes that you throw,

1065
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 5: expand the strike zone with their length, and make catch

1066
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 5: and run plays where you turn a short passive to

1067
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 5: a big play because they're explosive. And then the protection

1068
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: is making sure that your quarterback doesn't get hit. It

1069
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 5: is hard for someone to succeed at a high level

1070
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 5: consistently when you don't have a plus marks.

1071
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Speaker 4: In each of those areas.

1072
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Speaker 5: And so some of the things with Jerry Goff, Yeah,

1073
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 5: he's surrounded by a perfect cast. He has everything around him.

1074
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Speaker 5: But he's also a really good player. But good players

1075
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: need more good players around them to be great players,

1076
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Speaker 5: and that's what we're seeing.

1077
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Speaker 3: Okay, we talked about the sophomore slump, and I have

1078
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Speaker 3: confidence in the CJ.

1079
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Speaker 2: Strott. I think that everything will.

1080
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Speaker 3: Be fine because, basically, as you mentioned early on, the

1081
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 3: injury factor, including the running game, which certainly really helps

1082
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: a quarterback. You know, Joel Mixon has been out for

1083
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 3: so long, so I think that he'll be fine. And

1084
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 3: Mixing's back. You talk about now a sophomore bump. You

1085
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 3: talk about Bryce Young all of a sudden, now that

1086
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: they said he's out and finished, now.

1087
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Speaker 2: He's coming back.

1088
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Speaker 3: Now Carolina looks like, you know, he's kind of found

1089
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: out what's wrong and made some adjustments.

1090
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he has made some adjustments, and it's not all

1091
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 5: reflected in his numbers, but it's more so in his.

1092
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 4: Ability to play.

1093
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Speaker 5: Like I would say the decisiveness of his play now

1094
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 5: compared to in the past. He was hesitant and indecisive early.

1095
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 5: He's now playing with more confidence. Part of that is

1096
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 5: due to the line has been playing better. They've been

1097
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 5: running the ball with Cuba Hubbard. He's given them like

1098
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: they bounce, but they don't have to do everything on him.

1099
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 5: And then Bryce is coming to his own in terms

1100
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 5: of making plays. He's had some of the young guys

1101
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 5: help him out. Xavier Laguette is one of those guys

1102
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 5: that has certainly helped. And so he's growing into it.

1103
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 5: And I think what people have to understand with Bryce

1104
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 5: and I didn't put this in the article. Sometimes when

1105
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 5: you're a guy that's Bryce Young who has played at

1106
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 5: modern day high school, best high school in the country, right,

1107
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 5: top two three in USA today and the rankings every year,

1108
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 5: you go to Alabama and you have a lot of

1109
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 5: success for a team that was loaded with firepower. This

1110
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 5: is the first time on the field that he's really

1111
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 5: had adversity. And the thing when you're drafting players, you

1112
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 5: never know how they're going to react and respond to when.

1113
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: Things don't go their way.

1114
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: This is the first time in his football life that

1115
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 5: Bryce Young hasn't had things go his way, so he

1116
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 5: had to work through that to get to the other side.

1117
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 5: The Panthers needed to show a little more patience letting

1118
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: him work through some of those goring paints, particularly given

1119
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 5: where he was starting from in that organization. But yeah,

1120
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 5: some of that is just the natural maturation process that

1121
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 5: young quarterbacks and young players have to go through.

1122
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you didn't bring up the coaching situation, which

1123
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: you've always been on one of those players that have

1124
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 3: been so so I guess important to tell me how important.

1125
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: A coach is to a team. But the teaching factor.

1126
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: And the inexperienced play calling in Carolina with Dave Canalist.

1127
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 3: I mean it's only the second year as an offensive

1128
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: play caller. How much was that a factor in Bryce Young?

1129
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: Oh, it's a factor.

1130
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 5: I mean it's a factor because Dave Canalis has only

1131
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: been a play caller for one year, and then you

1132
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 5: add onto that by giving him head coaching duties.

1133
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: And that's hard.

1134
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 5: That's hard for most people to juggle and manage, you know,

1135
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 5: but it's one of the things that they have been

1136
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 5: able to do. It's just unfortunate for Bryce Young that

1137
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 5: he said three play callers in a year and a half.

1138
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 5: He had Rank right, he had Thomas Brown for a

1139
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: little bit, and then he you know, he had David Canals.

1140
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 4: That's a lot of different voices in your ear.

1141
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 5: So it certainly hasn't been a smooth ride for him

1142
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 5: when it comes to it.

1143
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: All right, So now let's talk a little bit about

1144
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 3: games on the field today. And talked about the Texans

1145
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 3: and your Jacksonville Jaguars and mentioned it early on. I

1146
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 3: asked you about the quarterback situation right now, but before

1147
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: beginning to that, the Texans right now, the Houston Texas

1148
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 3: have lost four out of six. They lost a Tennessee

1149
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: list week. That's a bad loss, but we'll loves the Titans.

1150
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: Quarterback of Tennessee was sacked eight times by the Texans

1151
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: defense last week.

1152
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: The Texans running game. Where did it go?

1153
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 3: I have to say, well, Joe Mixon wasn't playing, so

1154
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: now he's coming back the Jaguars right now, Max, I

1155
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: did ask you this, but I'm pretty sure Trevor Lawrence

1156
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: is going to play today. But I don't think Mac Jones. Look,

1157
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna preuss you on that. Trevor Lawrence gonna play.

1158
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 4: I told you everything you need to know. Look for

1159
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: the starter, Look for the starting quarterback to play.

1160
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: He's gonna play. What do you think? What do you

1161
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: like in this game? I mean it's a tough hole.

1162
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: I mean it's a tough game. Man. Look it's a

1163
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 4: tough game. You're sitting at two and nine, you're trying

1164
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 4: to figure out why you motivated to play.

1165
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 5: I will say that if Trevor Lawrence plays, you give

1166
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 5: him credit for showing up right at a time when

1167
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 5: a quarterback could make a decision, like you know what

1168
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: the two and nine. If we're not going anywhere, I'm

1169
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 5: not gonna play. I'm gonna take care of my own.

1170
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 5: He may decide to take the ball and go, and

1171
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 5: so you talk about the captain going down with the ship.

1172
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 5: That's exactly what you want to see from a franchise

1173
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 5: quarterback in terms of on the field play. He gives

1174
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 5: them ability to use all the weapons. On offense, you

1175
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 5: can use the entire playbook. You can lean on him

1176
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 5: to make plays. You want them to be able to

1177
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 5: protect himself. But it can be a bit of a reset.

1178
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 5: And if you're the Jaguars, man, the one thing that

1179
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 5: you want, you just want to win a game, no

1180
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 5: different than the Cleveland Browns taking on the Pittsburgh still

1181
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 5: is in that wintery wonderland a couple of weeks ago.

1182
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 4: You want to see the same thing.

1183
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 5: Man, You work too hard, You put too many hours

1184
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 5: in to keep losing. It's miserable and so you just

1185
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 5: want to get that better taste out your mouth. And

1186
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 5: if you can do it against your division rival, man,

1187
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 5: what better opportunity than to do it against Agetown.

1188
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 3: All right, Now, you got to look at the future

1189
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: in this game. The Cults are playing at the Patriots today.

1190
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: Two quarterbacks of the future, right, Anthony Richardson and Drake May. Now,

1191
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: Drake May your guy for North Carolina. He might end

1192
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 3: up being the better pro down the road in the future,

1193
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: but now I think the Colts have a better roster.

1194
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: That's why I think the Colts win this ball again,

1195
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: because you know, Anthony Richardson has more around him than

1196
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 3: Drake May has.

1197
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he does have more around him. You know, it's

1198
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 5: such a tough deal, right when you're Drake May and

1199
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 5: you don't really have anything. You don't have the stuff

1200
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 5: around you that you need to be successful.

1201
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 4: He's been able to.

1202
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: Flash though, and so you appreciate that. So I love

1203
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 5: that about Drake May. For Anthony Richardson, I'm gonna say

1204
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 5: this because I've been very critical on our show about

1205
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson and just from the tap out situation, not

1206
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: understanding what was required of a franchise quarterback. But then

1207
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 5: upon reflection, some of it's his fault, but some of

1208
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 5: it really is a leadership thing from the people that

1209
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 5: were in charge, general manager, head coach. They should have

1210
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 5: had a plan for him to develop into the franchise

1211
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 5: quarterback that they wanted. He's come back, He's been better

1212
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 5: since he's returned.

1213
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 4: You like that.

1214
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 5: I still I would lean towards the Colts in this

1215
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 5: situation in terms of winning this game, just because they

1216
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 5: have a better team than the Patriots. But make no mistake,

1217
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 5: man Drake May has the potential to be a star.

1218
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 5: They have to make sure they get playmakers around him

1219
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 5: so he can showcase his skills.

1220
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the big one right here. The Seattle Seahawks

1221
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: against the Jets at.

1222
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: New Jersey today in New Jersey.

1223
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: Seahawks are six and five, Jets of three and eight,

1224
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 3: and the Seahawks have won two straight. And we talked

1225
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: about the Seahowks, but we didn't talk about their defense.

1226
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: We talk about Gino all the time, their quarterback, you

1227
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: know Smith, but their defense is improving. They gave up

1228
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 3: a combined twenty three points and their least two wins

1229
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: they went too straight against Arizona and San Francisco. And

1230
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: I got to believe that defense is something that you

1231
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 3: want to play.

1232
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: You know, you may have the skill set, but you

1233
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: talk about.

1234
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: Guys that are on the line that weigh two fifty

1235
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: to three hundred pounds, you know, really and truly, it's

1236
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: a will.

1237
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 2: Power thing more than skill set.

1238
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: Don't you think you go out there and say, look,

1239
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna get it done today. I saw that last

1240
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: night with Michigan. Defensively on the defensive line, you know,

1241
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: you gotta want to do it. You were an offense.

1242
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: If you have the skill set, you're gonna win. I mean,

1243
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: some guys are just better than others on defense. I

1244
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: think it's a will to win.

1245
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, defense, it is a bit of a will to

1246
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 5: win and wanted to get it done and wanted to

1247
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 5: make sure that you're on it because it's reactionary as

1248
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 5: opposed to being able to dictate. Yeah, you certainly want

1249
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 5: to do.

1250
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 4: That. Part of it.

1251
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 5: Offensively is more about execution, understanding where you are, how

1252
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 5: you want to attack in those things.

1253
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 4: Defense is all reaction. How do you handle it? How

1254
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: do you respond?

1255
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 5: How do you adjust to what is being thrown at you?

1256
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 4: Right?

1257
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: And the big question today is on the offensive side

1258
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: of the ball. Aaron Rodgers, I mean, what's the deal

1259
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 3: with this?

1260
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: Guys? You got to play next year?

1261
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: Now he got everything he wanted, He got every player

1262
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: that he wanted to come to New York, and now

1263
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's down the dumpstead three and

1264
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 3: eight he hasn't done anything. And really you said it

1265
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: last week. It's age.

1266
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he just can't get it done. And I

1267
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: think that.

1268
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: One of the things that is the problem with him

1269
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: is that, you know, people say, well, you know tom

1270
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: Brady played, but Tom Brady kept himself in position to play.

1271
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: He didn't even eat turkey on TV on Turkey Day, right,

1272
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: I mean he wouldn't even have the turkey. He wouldn't

1273
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: have a turkey drum. He would not do that. This

1274
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 3: guy is total control of his body. Twenty four seventh,

1275
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: three sixty five where Aaron Rodgers. I don't think he

1276
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 3: works out in the offseason, and.

1277
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 2: It showed this year. He's lost it. He really has.

1278
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: And I don't think he's going to play next year.

1279
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, reallta worth he plays. I think one thing tom

1280
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 5: Brady spoiled us. He spoiled us in the fact of

1281
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 5: thinking that you can be a forty something quarterback and

1282
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 5: have success in this league.

1283
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 4: Andy, you're not supposed to play pro football at the

1284
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 4: age of forty. You just physically not.

1285
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not supposed to play too forty.

1286
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. The game is too violence, too physical.

1287
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 5: It's hard to sustain the pounding and to withstand the pounding.

1288
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 4: And all that other stuff.

1289
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 5: And so we had unrealist expectations for Aaron Rodgers. If

1290
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 5: we had dug a little deeper, he was a declining player.

1291
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 5: He had a spark of life because they drafted Jordan Love.

1292
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 5: But this is who Aaron Rodgers is. And unless he

1293
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 5: shifts into more of a managerial role where he's surrounded

1294
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 5: by premier talent and someone a coach that can coach

1295
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 5: him hard and keep him under control, he never would respond.

1296
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 5: And so now I think it's over.

1297
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: Man.

1298
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 5: I think this is the last run enjoyed the last

1299
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 5: five six weeks.

1300
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 4: I think this is the last time we'll see Aaron

1301
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: Rodgers in our league.

1302
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: And the thing is, I hope he doesn't become a

1303
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: television commentator. I hope he's not hired by anybody because

1304
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear him.

1305
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 4: No. I hope, yeah, I hope not.

1306
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I just I just think there's a little

1307
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers fatigue when it comes to all of it,

1308
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: or whatever.

1309
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: I will say this.

1310
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 5: I do like the fact that he uh talked about

1311
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 5: he went back to cal like doing their their bye week.

1312
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 5: Can some time to go back and see Jeff Tafford

1313
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 5: and all those other things. All these guys came back

1314
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 5: to Seawan and be smoder and all those guys back.

1315
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 5: That was cool, But in terms of how he's been

1316
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 5: since been with the Jets, nah, And this is what

1317
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 5: happens when you turn the franchise over to players or

1318
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 5: to a quarterback and you make him bigger than the team.

1319
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 5: This is what you've run the risk of. You cannot

1320
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 5: put anybody over the team. Everyone is not on the

1321
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 5: same level, but you can't make it where it was

1322
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 5: like Aaron Rodgers and the King and everybody else a paupers.

1323
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 4: And that's what it kind of felt like.

1324
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: And players know that too. Players know that hurts.

1325
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: It really does all right, Last, but not least, let's

1326
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: go to Titans Commanders Now. Commanders lost to the Cowboys

1327
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 3: of All People thirty four to twenty sixth last week,

1328
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: and the way they lost was ugly. They allowed a

1329
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: pair of touchdowns on kickoff returns that have failed on

1330
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: site kick attempt in the final seconds, and Austin Sebert

1331
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 3: missed the field goal and he missed two extra points

1332
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: that can't happen, and the look at Tennessee right now.

1333
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: Their run defense has been really, really good the last

1334
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: two weeks. They held Minnesota and both the Texans to

1335
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty two combined yards on a total

1336
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 3: of fifty carries. But now Jade and Daniel's gonna go

1337
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: crazy today. He will The Titans have to hope for

1338
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: a few big plays from their quarterback.

1339
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: Will love us.

1340
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to happen. I think the

1341
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,959
Speaker 3: command is you hit a speed bump. That's what happens every.

1342
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: Once in a while. I think the Commanders win this one.

1343
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: They gotta win this one. They need it. They're seven

1344
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: and five.

1345
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 5: Yeah know they needed a dropped a few of lady

1346
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 5: that kind of threw them off. But they need to

1347
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 5: get Jade Daniels back on track. He hasn't really been

1348
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 5: the same since he heard his ribs and that's been

1349
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 5: the big factor. That's been the major story because he

1350
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 5: hasn't been able to really utilize his athleticism and his legs.

1351
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 5: Teams have kind of caught up with him and made

1352
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 5: him play from the pocket. That they've had success. They

1353
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 5: need Jayden Daniels to be the superhero that he was

1354
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 5: early in the year. When he's that. Yeah, the offense

1355
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 5: is good enough, and then defensively, they're good enough to

1356
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 5: compliment an offense that put points on the board, but

1357
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 5: they are not what we call a standalone defense that

1358
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 5: can shrink the game and kind of hold up. They

1359
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 5: need this offense to get going, so look for the

1360
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 5: commanders to try and get it going. But I'm gonna

1361
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 5: say this, don't sleep on the Titans defense is playing

1362
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 5: kind of good.

1363
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: There's salty on the inside.

1364
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 5: Two big guys Jeffrey Simmons and Tovandre sweat on the

1365
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 5: inside make life miserable for opponents.

1366
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we go all right, Harry, he's Bucket Brooks.

1367
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 3: Get him on Twitter at Bucket Brooks or Mike Harmon

1368
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: who joins us next hour at swollen dumb on myself

1369
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 3: out Andy from an FSR, or if you so be it,

1370
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: if you have the guts eight seven seven ninety nine

1371
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: on Fox.

1372
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: That's our phone number.

1373
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: That translates to eight seven seven nine to nine six

1374
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: sixty three sixty nine. We've got bon and barrel betting

1375
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 3: in this hour, and the question is which team needs

1376
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: this game?

1377
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: More will tell you next. There's just too many flags.

1378
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: That's right around the corner we'll get to that in

1379
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: just about a minute. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furmer.

1380
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 3: Together we have Fox Football Sunny and Fox Smit's Radio.

1381
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: And by the way, by the way, shortly after the show,

1382
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: our podcast will be going up. And if you missed

1383
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,400
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1384
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,840
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1385
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1390
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 4: Up the air.

1391
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on right now, and we got

1392
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: bon and Barrel betting. I'd say it about fifteen to

1393
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: twenty minutes from now, and I would say this, and

1394
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 3: if you look at the stats in the National Football League, Buck,

1395
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: these guys are the best quarterback wide receiver combo in

1396
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: the league.

1397
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: But they may not see.

1398
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: The playoffs unless they watch it on TV. With you

1399
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: and me, and we're talking about the Bengals quarterback Joe

1400
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: Burrow and the wide receiver Jamar Chase and the Bengals

1401
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: host of Steelers today and the question I have is

1402
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: really and truly who needs this game more? Because the

1403
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 3: Bengals looks like that like a fifteen percent chance of

1404
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 3: a postseason big and the Steelers are playing for a

1405
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: number one seed. So for who which team is it

1406
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: more important for a win today?

1407
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 4: Oh?

1408
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 5: It has it the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Pittsburgh Steelers can't

1409
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 5: go off the track because Baltimore Ravens are hanging there.

1410
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 5: I know Cincinnati is trying to be in there, but

1411
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 5: I don't know if Cincinnati will play well enough on

1412
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 5: defense to be able to be a factor they need

1413
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 5: to win. But to me, it is a bigger game

1414
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 5: for Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh, man, they dropped the stinker to

1415
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns, they got a bounce back. They cannot

1416
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 5: have that impact them. I think it's a bigger game

1417
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 5: for the Steelers.

1418
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 3: But I would say this, I mean, Pittsburgh right now

1419
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: has always been a mic on the defensively based team.

1420
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 3: There's still somewhat offensive challenged challenge right and I think

1421
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 3: the Bengals right now can put up the points. That's

1422
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 3: the thing. The problem with the Bengals right now. You

1423
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 3: can put up the points, but the thing is you

1424
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 3: need to run the clock out once you have those points,

1425
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: and they don't have the running game to do that.

1426
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

1427
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't have the running game.

1428
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 5: And you know, Joe Mixon is down there running like

1429
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 5: crazy in Agetown, but they don't have the running game

1430
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 5: to bounce it out.

1431
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 4: They don't have the running game to do it.

1432
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 5: For Pittsburgh Steelers, their running game is everything. They have

1433
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 5: to have the running game so they can throw the

1434
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 5: ball down the field. When it comes to Russell Wilson

1435
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 5: and how they want to play with George Pickens and

1436
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 5: stuff on the outside contrasting styles, the path to victory

1437
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 5: for the Steelers is always a narrow one based on

1438
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 5: how they approach it. Cincinnati, they need to run the

1439
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 5: football because they need more physicality in their approach their

1440
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 5: team that is almost like a flag football team. They

1441
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 5: want to throw where they have great weapons on the outside.

1442
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 5: But this game, when you get into this part of

1443
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 5: the year, you got to be able to punish people.

1444
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 5: You got to be able to punch people in the mouth.

1445
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 5: You got to control the game with the running game,

1446
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 5: and they're just not good enough right now. On dead aspect.

1447
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because people talk about the Saquon

1448
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: Barkley situation leaving New York and what he's done now

1449
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. No one's really talking much about Joe Mixon

1450
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 3: leaving Cincinnati and going to the Texans, although I know

1451
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: he's been on the bench for a while because he's

1452
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: been hurt. But that's a major loss and I'll never

1453
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: forget this. Back in July, the Bengals have like their

1454
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: lunching at pre camp luncheon. I went to the luncheon.

1455
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 3: I is Zach Taylor the coach. I said, you know

1456
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 3: you're losing Joe Mixon. What about Zach Morris. Oh, well,

1457
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 3: we'll be fine. Zach Mooss hasn't done anything and always hurda.

1458
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: Zack Moss is not the kind of runner that Joe

1459
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: Mixon is. It's just two different ballplayers.

1460
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 5: No, I mean, look, two completely different ballplayers, and it's

1461
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 5: impacted them like they haven't been able to they haven't

1462
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 5: been able to like control the game offensively because they

1463
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 5: don't have that dominant running running back in place. And

1464
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 5: so if they're able to get some of that then

1465
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 5: they can kind of attack and dictate it. But for

1466
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 5: the Bengals to win and win consistently down the stretch.

1467
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 5: Their offense has to play at a high level to

1468
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 5: the point where their offense is their best defense.

1469
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: See what you're saying, I kind of like, you know,

1470
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 3: I hate to say this because I live in the

1471
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 3: greatest Cincinnati area, live in their honkey. You know why

1472
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 3: I want them to win because the city is so

1473
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 3: depressed when they lose.

1474
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: That's why I want them to win.

1475
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those row rock guys that want

1476
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: to jump off a bridge when basically they lose.

1477
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: I'm not that way, you know.

1478
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: And honestly, I said this to you once before, you know,

1479
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 3: when I was doing local radio in Cincinnati, I kind

1480
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 3: of rooted for them to lose because it was a

1481
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 3: better radio show.

1482
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: When they lost. People go crazy on the radio when

1483
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: they lose. You know, they call up.

1484
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: They want the coach fire, they want this, they want that.

1485
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: When they win, it's like, you know, no big whoop.

1486
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 3: So I want to see them win now because tomorrow

1487
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: morning's going to be a depressed day if they lose.

1488
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: If they win, there's still some hope. But I don't

1489
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: think they're going to win. I think Pittsburg it is

1490
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: just a better team.

1491
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 5: I really do, it'd be doubly depressing off the heroes

1492
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 5: of the Michigan loss. A lot of people there, so

1493
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 5: maybe they need a little bit of luck to kind

1494
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 5: of help them.

1495
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: It's like a loser city now.

1496
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 3: I mean, yesterday the University of Cincinnati, they looked like

1497
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 3: their fifth straight game.

1498
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: They looked the TCU.

1499
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 3: They were down twenty to seven, and they came back

1500
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: in the last minute or so, and again there was

1501
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: a mismanagement on the clock that could have tied it up.

1502
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: They didn't do that, so they lost, and they ended

1503
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 3: up with a five and seven record this year, so

1504
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: they're not going to a bowl again.

1505
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 2: So now that everybody wants.

1506
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 3: Scott Sadafield's head, it's not gonna happen with these coaches buyouts.

1507
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 3: They don't have the kind of money to buy out

1508
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 3: these guys. I don't see sata Field getting fired after

1509
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: his second year. I don't see that happening here.

1510
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: But again, you know, you got to win.

1511
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean, the city's losing everything, Red's lost, Bengal's losing,

1512
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: University Cincinnati's losing, So come on, get it together, really please.

1513
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a depressing time, but you know, the Bearcats

1514
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 5: thing is interesting, right, because you have to feel kind

1515
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,959
Speaker 5: of weird if you're a Cincinnati fan because you've seen

1516
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 5: them in like three years, three four years, they were

1517
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 5: a team that played in the title game. They've been

1518
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 5: at the top, and to now be out of it,

1519
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 5: like that's crazy. I do wonder if you could go

1520
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 5: back in time, if lu Fickle regrets leaving what was

1521
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 5: a nice situation for him in Cincinnati.

1522
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 4: I wonder if you.

1523
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 5: Regrets that because the Bearcats were rolling they I mean,

1524
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 5: they had it going. It was popping Desmond Ritt and

1525
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 5: their crew, and so I don't know.

1526
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: But it wasn't the Big Twelve. It was the a

1527
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: American Athletic Conference, you know.

1528
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 5: But like did it really matter you went to the

1529
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 5: championship game from that, Like, I don't know if it

1530
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 5: really mattered.

1531
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 3: You know, you're right because it's probably even more difficult

1532
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 3: to do it like that because they don't usually take

1533
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 3: a team that's not in the major conference in those tournaments,

1534
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 3: and there was only four teams involved in not twelve.

1535
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: You know.

1536
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 3: But again, the mindset of a coach, I mean it's

1537
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 3: like A money's a factor perhaps, and B is like

1538
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 3: I want to see what I could do on a

1539
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: bigger stage. Maybe that's the challenge, you know, And with

1540
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 3: those two things together, you know, make you hungry and

1541
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: you want to go, and sometimes you just want to

1542
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: get a new start, start fresh. Could be I don't know.

1543
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 5: I mean I guess so, I mean that is a

1544
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 5: way to think about it. But yeah, they just just.

1545
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 4: Not great, you know, not great.

1546
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 5: Oh boy, feel bad, feel bad for feel bad for

1547
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 5: ohiring Cincinnati and all the things that are going on.

1548
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 4: Just tough weekend.

1549
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 5: If you Bingle don't come through, if the Bengals don't

1550
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 5: come through, you know what I'm gonna do. And if

1551
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 5: the Bengals don't come through, I'm gonna send you a

1552
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 5: vat of Skyline chili to kind of help you drown

1553
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 5: your sorrows.

1554
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 3: Speaking of Senny, did you ever get the material I

1555
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 3: sent to Jacksonville?

1556
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: Did they've forward that to you?

1557
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 5: No, I'm sure I haven't got that, And you know

1558
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 5: offline them have to give you my address so you

1559
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 5: can send it directly to me.

1560
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: That's all I'll do, all right.

1561
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 3: Now we've got the Cardinals at the Vikings, and now

1562
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: the Vikings have a new backup quarterback and Daniel Jones,

1563
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 3: how surprised, were you that dj is going from the

1564
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: Giants to the Vike while you pick the vikings of

1565
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 3: teams to go to.

1566
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 5: Not surprised because when you take the money out of it, right,

1567
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 5: So Daniel Jones has made a ton of money, so

1568
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 5: money's not a consideration. This is one strictly for the

1569
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 5: plight of your career. You want to make sure you

1570
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 5: go to a place where you can get coach will

1571
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 5: by our quarterback guru in a way. You want to

1572
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 5: put yourself in a position to use it as a

1573
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 5: launch pad to your next situation, your next job. Okay,

1574
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 5: So Kevin O'Connell has already shown that he can be

1575
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 5: a guy that's a bit of a whisper, right, not

1576
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 5: only what he did with Kirk Cousins elevating him, but

1577
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 5: what he's done with Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones.

1578
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 4: You want to go by someone who.

1579
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 5: Has already talked positively about your talents, someone that you

1580
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 5: can learn from. Former NFL quarterback who's the head coach

1581
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 5: who really spends time with the quarterbacks, and you want

1582
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 5: to be in that Sean McVay, cow Shanahan Tree because

1583
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 5: when you become a free agent, you want to play

1584
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 5: in that system because we've seen what it's done to

1585
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 5: elevate players. I've said personally, the Shanahan system can turn

1586
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 5: average players in the Pro Bowlers and Pro bowlers in

1587
01:08:59,640 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 5: the Envy.

1588
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 4: That's what we've seen. Wow, Well now he goes there.

1589
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan, Mike Lafleur, like all of these guys that

1590
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 5: employed that system can now call Kevin O'Connell to get

1591
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 5: the skinny on what's going on. The other situation that

1592
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 5: does for the Vikings is if Sam Donald, as a

1593
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 5: free agent wants to get big money, they can move

1594
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 5: on from him and have Daniel Jones in place to

1595
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 5: do the same thing that they've done with Sam Donald.

1596
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 5: So to me, it was a win win for both parties.

1597
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:28,799
Speaker 5: It's made a lot of sense.

1598
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: How do you like that now?

1599
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 3: I talked about flags coming up to the segment of

1600
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 3: the year and that Arizona Cardinals were flagg for holding penalties.

1601
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 3: It seemed like after every play last week they lost

1602
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 3: to Seattle sixteenth to six, and they completed only three

1603
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: for twelve third down conversions. So right now it's a

1604
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 3: big game for both Cardinals is still alive. I just

1605
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: think the Vikings are a better team. I just think

1606
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 3: they played better. They've hit a bit of a speed bump,

1607
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 3: but I think the Vikings are a better team than

1608
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 3: the Vikings win this game.

1609
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:54,839
Speaker 2: Keys for Arizona.

1610
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 3: They got to eliminate the penalties, basically got to do

1611
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: that and see that the defensively, Arizona's pass rush got

1612
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 3: to keep on bringing it, bring the heat. They have

1613
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 3: five sacks last week. Keep on bringing that heat and

1614
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 3: maybe they got a shot. I like Arizona. I think

1615
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 3: that their coach is up there, maybe in the in

1616
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 3: the conversation for Coach of the Year, but right now,

1617
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: I think the Vikings win this one.

1618
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, Vikings win Arizona is a nice story. Jonathanan's don

1619
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 5: a great job.

1620
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 4: The culture. They just resigned.

1621
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 5: They just signed James Connor to an extension, which is great.

1622
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 5: He's played well there. Kyler Murray's kind of bouncing back

1623
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 5: Minnesota to me is really good and they're built to

1624
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 5: play in these moments. Brian Floyds is I can't say

1625
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 5: underrated defense coordinator, but a lot of attention on what

1626
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 5: he's been able to do with this defense. They're gonna

1627
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 5: get after the quarterback, They're gonna heat the quarterback up.

1628
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 5: They're going They're going to try and force him and

1629
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 5: bait him into some poor decisions and I think they

1630
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 5: may get a turnover two off of that. Give me

1631
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 5: the Minnesota Vikings. They know it's at stake this eight.

1632
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 5: This NFC North situation is tough. They cannot fall behind.

1633
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 5: I think they understand what is in front of them.

1634
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 5: They can't let the Packers get to them, and they're

1635
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 5: still trying to chase down the Detroit lines.

1636
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 4: Right.

1637
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 3: Chargers at the Falcons today, Falcons six and five in Atlanta,

1638
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 3: Charges seven and three. And what the Chargers do best,

1639
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 3: not only do they run the football really well.

1640
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 2: But they could they take care of the football.

1641
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 3: They don't fumble the football, they have possession, and I

1642
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 3: think it's a credit to their coach Jim Harborough. I

1643
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 3: think he's done a great job and giving that I

1644
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: hate to use the term culture, but basically turn this

1645
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 3: team around.

1646
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: He really has.

1647
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 3: I think right now they're going to run the football.

1648
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 3: That's what they're going to do against Atlanta. Falconers must

1649
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: get the ball to their playmakers if they can. But

1650
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 3: I think that the Chargers are going to control the clock,

1651
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: control the football and win this football game.

1652
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that. It's a beat him

1653
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 4: down game.

1654
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 5: If you're the Chargers, physical, physical, physical, you want to

1655
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 5: make this an old school street fight in a phone booth.

1656
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 5: You want to impose, you will, And it has to

1657
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 5: be one of those situations where they get back on track.

1658
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 5: Last two weeks defensively have not been up to their standard.

1659
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 5: They got to get back to playing their kind of

1660
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 5: brand a ball on defense and then offensively, it's about

1661
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 5: methodically picking the Falcons apart, running the ball, setting up

1662
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 5: play action, finding a lab McConkie as much as you can. Uh.

1663
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chargers got to get back on track. I believe

1664
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 4: they get back on tracking this one.

1665
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: I do just like he did in Michigan. The same

1666
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 3: kind of format. Really it really is, isn't.

1667
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 4: It Never changes, same thing, never changes, never changes, never changes.

1668
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: Buccaneers at the Carolina Panthers right now, right now the

1669
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers league's worst run defense. So what if I'm

1670
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 3: a coordinator, I don't have to stay at to one

1671
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: in the morning and sleep on the couch like I

1672
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: hear these stories that they do. If they have the

1673
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 3: league's worst run defense, where I'm gonna do it with

1674
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 3: the Bucks.

1675
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run the football. That's basically what I'm gonna do, right.

1676
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, you get the formula. The

1677
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 5: formula doesn't change, you know. But here's what I'll say

1678
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 5: about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Buccaneers are kind of

1679
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 5: finding their way. Toy Bowles is always back in the corner,

1680
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 5: but they find somehow found a way to get back

1681
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 5: out of it. At some point, you need Baker Mayfield

1682
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 5: to take this thing over. If they're going to be

1683
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 5: the team that kind of swipes the division. It'd be

1684
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 5: a nice start for him to kind of get it

1685
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 5: cranked and going.

1686
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 3: Right now, Okay, the Buccaneers are out the fourth most

1687
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 3: passing yards in the game.

1688
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: And I will say this much.

1689
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 3: We talked about the bumps, and you mentioned Bryce Young

1690
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 3: with the bump that he's turning it around a little bit.

1691
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 3: Last week Bryce Young threw for a season I two

1692
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 3: into sixty three yards and they almost upset the Chiefs.

1693
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 3: The Chiefs just know how to win. They get it done,

1694
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 3: and I think they know that. I think the players know.

1695
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 3: Say they're behind, maybe in the fourth quarter and they're

1696
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 3: by a touchdown. The score field or whatever it may be.

1697
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 3: They know in they're heart of us. We don't need

1698
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 3: the panic. We're going to come back. We've done it before.

1699
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna win.

1700
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: And that's what they do. And they've done it again.

1701
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 3: They did it against the Raiders and Thanksgiving on Friday

1702
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: night they did it so bright Bryce Young came back.

1703
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 3: They almost beat the Chiefs. Chiefs are playing on a

1704
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 3: tight rope right now. But I think Bryce Young's turning

1705
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: it around. He's turned the corner. He really has.

1706
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 5: He has turned the corner. I want to see him

1707
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 5: continue to progress. We're going to see him continue to

1708
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 5: make moves. Dave Canalis and those guys have not given

1709
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 5: him anything. They refuse to name him like the franchise

1710
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 5: quarterback and say that, hey, he's gonna be the starter

1711
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 5: for the rest of the season.

1712
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 4: They're making a young guy earn it. So let's see

1713
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 4: him earn it.

1714
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 5: Let's see him continue to play at a high lovel

1715
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 5: If he does it, man, he deserves uh to continue

1716
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 5: on as a starter, not only this year but next year.

1717
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Speaker 3: Boot's ready and we're live from the tire Rock dot

1737
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 3: Com studios. Hey, Shay Shay is back. We got a

1738
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 3: game to play. Let's play it. Yes it is, and

1739
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 3: Shay Shay you're back. You're here, Let's get it done.

1740
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 3: Let's play.

1741
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 7: I know you guys miss me, and I especially know

1742
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 7: Bucky misses me because I do.

1743
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 8: You didn't do too good. I'm sorry.

1744
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 7: Bucky, I was signing it up. I know I convinced you,

1745
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 7: and I know you thought you did good. But Andy

1746
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 7: got four, Bucky got one last time, so I know

1747
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 7: it's wild.

1748
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 8: So the fact that I'm back, maybe you'll get some help.

1749
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 4: Bucky.

1750
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: You know two of the list three, two one of

1751
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 2: the list three?

1752
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 4: What are we doing? Like you sting me up? Dude? Bucket?

1753
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 8: You're still in the lead overall though, So it's Andy, Why.

1754
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: Are you against me? Why did you congratulate me? Why

1755
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 3: are you against me? I don't get it.

1756
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 7: Why would he he's a competitive guy. You know, he's

1757
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 7: an athlete, and you wouldn't understand competitive. Yeah, you wouldn't

1758
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 7: understand it. It's okay, but let's geta he's in that.

1759
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 3: Wait, wait a minute, time, he's a competitive to an athlete,

1760
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 3: a competitive guy.

1761
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 2: I play the stock market. What's the difference?

1762
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 4: Right?

1763
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 7: You're up, I say, am looking at the Let's get

1764
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 7: right into it, Andy, I don't please listen. In the

1765
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 7: Women's Grand Slam of Curling or yeah, Team Hasselborg is

1766
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 7: taking on Team Human today at eight a m. Pacific

1767
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 7: standard time. Team Hasslborg is plus one ninety while Team

1768
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 7: Homan is minus two sixty Bucky, let's start with you.

1769
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 8: Maybe we could change it up here.

1770
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: Look at you favorite to oh man.

1771
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 4: Okay, so I guess I'm gonna go with team human.

1772
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 9: I like that.

1773
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 2: What what is this?

1774
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: I like that?

1775
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 7: You should be It's positive. It's positive reinforcement. You're you

1776
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 7: don't need it. You know, Bucky's a little down man.

1777
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 7: I want to keep him up.

1778
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a back a couple of weeks for Bucky.

1779
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be another one today. So he's got hassle

1780
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 3: bound whatever.

1781
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 8: He's got home on. Do you want to take Castle Boorg?

1782
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: I got hastle boy. You know what, because I'm not

1783
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: going with the loser. That's why. That's the only reason

1784
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm not going with the loser. He picked a loser.

1785
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 2: If you got to pick losers every week.

1786
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 8: And if you guys didn't want to watch that, I

1787
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:02,799
Speaker 8: would have loved.

1788
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 3: To see Bucket when he played. He must have really

1789
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 3: been a real cry baby if.

1790
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 5: They're a loss, real crab baby. No crab baby, don't

1791
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 5: believe in that.

1792
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

1793
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 7: In the Ukrainian Table Tennis League, Rustling is taking on

1794
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 7: Taross right now. Taross is minus one fifty five while

1795
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 7: Rustling is plus one ten.

1796
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 8: Andy, we can go ahead and stay with you this

1797
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 8: pig t Tarross.

1798
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 3: I love Tarass really, I've seen tapes of Tarass. Oh yeah,

1799
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 3: he goes both ways. When I say he goes both ways,

1800
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 3: he could play left the right then, yeah, that's what

1801
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 3: I mean, both ways. You couldn't take him the wrong way.

1802
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 3: Please don't take it the wrong way. When I say

1803
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 3: he goes both ways, I.

1804
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 8: Don't think anyone took it that way. But okay, wow, I.

1805
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: Mean wow, all right, I was thrown off a little bit.

1806
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 4: That was That was a distraction. It nervous distraction. Give me,

1807
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 4: give me the opposite.

1808
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 7: He goes to the wrestling, all right, he goes the

1809
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 7: other way. Not that way though, Yeah.

1810
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: I can go both ways. I don't go up that way.

1811
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 7: In the Snooker UK Championship, Barry Hawkins is taking on

1812
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 7: Jude Trump in a few minutes. Barry Hawkins is plus

1813
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 7: two fifty while jud Trump is minus three fifty.

1814
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 2: Andy Trump Trump is a tr I know.

1815
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, I had to add it because of the name.

1816
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 8: I was like, I don't think he's related it anyway,

1817
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 8: I hope not.

1818
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 3: I was just like, yeah, I got Hawkins like her

1819
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 3: I used to love Hershey Hawkins.

1820
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: You know the basketball player, Yeah, Hersie or Hershey. I

1821
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 2: don't remember, but I liked him. If he played for

1822
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: the seventy six ers. I'll go with Hawkins Hawkins.

1823
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 4: It's Bucky, Okay, Well I go I go opposite, like

1824
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 4: I go opposite. We can't.

1825
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: I got the Trump.

1826
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 8: You might have to change it, can though, Bucky? Because

1827
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 8: I do the Trump dance.

1828
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: I see these NFL players doing the Trump dance?

1829
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, that's that's fine. Look, it's it's temporary. Like

1830
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 4: you can't. You can't start changing your thing. Shit, I

1831
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 4: like a couple of losses. Got to see.

1832
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 7: That's wisdom. You're in this league for a while. It's dynasty.

1833
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 7: You're like the Warriors. I get it.

1834
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 4: I got it.

1835
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 8: So this one's a little different.

1836
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 4: Guys.

1837
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 7: It might be my own line, but I make the rules,

1838
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 7: so you guys got to deal with it. Molana, I

1839
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 7: just hit the theaters November twenty seventh, and the box number.

1840
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 7: Box numbers are crazy right now, Andy, Bucky, do you

1841
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,879
Speaker 7: have the over or under on three hundred million worldwide

1842
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 7: box office through the weekend?

1843
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 4: Who's uh, let's go Buck go over? Let's go over

1844
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 4: great with you over.

1845
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 3: Three hundred million, man, that's a lot. I'm gonna go

1846
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 3: one days.

1847
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 2: That's big time. I mean that's real big.

1848
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 8: What do you think Have any of you guys seen

1849
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 8: it yet?

1850
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: No? But what do you think?

1851
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 7: What do I I'm gonna go over just because everyone's

1852
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 7: taking their kids, well, you know, his gaming weekend, so.

1853
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 3: I picked on the I'm not gonna go see it.

1854
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm not going because I don't want to win.

1855
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 4: You got it? You got it?

1856
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 8: Well, that's it. Good job guys.

1857
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 2: There you go swallow the next what do you on?

1858
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 4: Fox?

1859
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 10: Hey, greetings and welcome in another beautiful Sunday on your

1860
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 10: highways and byways back from Grandma's house. You're traveling, Be

1861
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 10: safe out there, be smart. You'll get there eventually. No

1862
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 10: need to do anything too crazy. Everybody's just trying to

1863
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 10: do their job. You see stuff at airports that make

1864
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 10: you just feel for your fellow man.

1865
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: Just be kind. It's a nice, little simple thing on

1866
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: a Sunday morning.

1867
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,280
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1868
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1871
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Speaker 10: should be welcome in. It's Fox Football Sunday. There's Andy Furman,

1872
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 10: There's Bucky Brooks. I'm Mike Carmen. Thanks for being with us,

1873
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 10: being part of the extended family. As you finish your

1874
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 10: holiday weekends at Andy Furman FSR. At Bucky Brooks, find

1875
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 10: me over at Swollen Dome. See I'm all about peace

1876
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 10: and love, because, let's face it, the last forty eight

1877
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 10: hours my phone blew up over certain circumstances in my hometown.

1878
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 10: It was kind of weird to not be on air

1879
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 10: for it, fellas, And so I'll let you get your

1880
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 10: razzing out of the way. Andy, point your finger, say

1881
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 10: Eberflus his name, like he's voldemorton let's get it done well.

1882
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that if he would have owned

1883
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 3: it after the game, and Bucket made it a great.

1884
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: Point early on today saying that he screwed up in

1885
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: that commander's game as.

1886
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 3: Well, but if he would have owned it after the

1887
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 3: game and saying that it was on me the time

1888
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 3: out though he said he did all the right things.

1889
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 2: We heard the tape. We heard that we played it, so.

1890
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 3: I think that when you do that, you have no

1891
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 3: other course but to say bye bye, take your bags

1892
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 3: and leave. Because the fan base was crazy, social media

1893
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 3: went nuts, and he just sounded like a fool.

1894
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: He did, so you gotta let it go. Let him go.

1895
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 10: Well, you can't change your yard. I mean he did

1896
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 10: that for multiple weeks in a row. We chronicled it

1897
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 10: all the way along to the bitter ridiculous conclusion off

1898
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 10: of Thursday's catastrophic loss. I called for the upset, so

1899
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 10: I was more mad that they didn't make me right

1900
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 10: with my plus ten and a half pick on Thanksgiving Day.

1901
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 10: But it's like Lincoln Riley at USC this year, guys,

1902
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 10: like everything was. It's one play away, one play away,

1903
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 10: and you can look at a number of Bears losses

1904
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 10: and go, well, one play away, Bucky.

1905
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: I'll ask you this.

1906
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 10: I know he's he's a young quarterback, but you also

1907
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 10: just elevated Thomas Brown. They don't have any say in

1908
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 10: any of this. None of the veterans can stop the insanity.

1909
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 10: Like Susan Powder. There you go, there's a timely reference.

1910
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 10: Go look at her up infomercial lunacy of the eighties

1911
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:22,799
Speaker 10: and nineties.

1912
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 5: Look here, here's what I say about the Bears, like

1913
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 5: iraflus lost the squad. There's a there's a great article

1914
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 5: on the Athletic that kind of talked about how his

1915
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 5: lack of accountability to the team really undid a lot

1916
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 5: of the positives that were going on with the Bears.

1917
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 5: The refusal to acknowledge his own shortcomings and the loss

1918
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 5: with the Commanders while he benched Tybreek Stevenson. He didn't

1919
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 5: take any responsibility for failing to call the time out

1920
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 5: or playing soft covers before that. That then escalates into

1921
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 5: the Shane Walton thing where they said, look man, Shane

1922
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 5: Waldron didn't hold everyone accountable. He was putting in things

1923
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 5: that are very difficult for a young quarterback and they

1924
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 5: never changed, never showed a willing willingness to adapt, and

1925
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 5: a just you elevate Thomas Brown. Thomas Brown is more direct,

1926
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 5: more to the point, hoose guys accountable and his voice.

1927
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,440
Speaker 4: Even drowned out that of Matt Eberflus.

1928
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 5: So when you have a coach who refuses to acknowledge

1929
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 5: his shortcomings and take accountability and he makes mistakes where

1930
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 5: the team feels like as players, we've done everything to

1931
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 5: put ourselves in a position to win. But our coach

1932
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 5: is costing us games. There's no coming back from that.

1933
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 5: So I'm sure the voices made its way upstairs, and

1934
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 5: that's why Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles didn't have a

1935
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 5: choice but to move on from Matt Eberflus.

1936
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: We'll see how.

1937
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 2: Long you know? You know, the dagga was.

1938
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 3: The dagga was when Bucky's daughter says, what the hell

1939
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: is he doing?

1940
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 5: That was right like, we're sitting there, we're just about

1941
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 5: to eat, and we're looking at the game, and the

1942
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 5: cast ensues. She's in the football now because she's played

1943
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 5: flag football, so she has a great understanding of what's

1944
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 5: going on, and so she's looking like, okay, two minute situation,

1945
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 5: thirty seconds left, they got a time out, what's going on?

1946
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 4: Tick to kill it?

1947
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 5: Williams throws up a Heil Mary and she's like, wait minute,

1948
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 5: aren't they down just three? They just need a field goal? Yes, yes, babe,

1949
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 5: they just they just need a field goal to tie.

1950
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 4: Well, why did they throw it up in the thing?

1951
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1952
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 5: Why did he call the time out when everyone has

1953
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 5: their hands their palms turned up.

1954
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1955
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 5: Why that's the signal, the universal signal like coach, we

1956
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 5: don't know what we're doing.

1957
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 4: Called the timeout.

1958
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 5: So to me, when you have a mess up like

1959
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 5: that on a major stage, because Mike we talked about,

1960
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 5: everyone is eating dinner, everyone is circled around the TV.

1961
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 5: You have the casuals looking like.

1962
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on? Like what why doesn't he there's

1963
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 4: no coming back from that.

1964
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 10: Well, the beauty of it is there's no nuance to

1965
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 10: it either, you know, for everybody to jump on board,

1966
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 10: and every network then had their A list, studio crews

1967
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 10: ready to go right, there's no all right, we gotta

1968
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 10: go back and check the all twenty two check that. No,

1969
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 10: this is simple football, which as we see time and

1970
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,959
Speaker 10: time again, Fellas gets botched how many times every Sunday

1971
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 10: in terms of down distance, preparation, everything, two minute drills.

1972
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 10: But yeah, Jalen Johnson, Keenan Allen, we did everything we

1973
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 10: could as players just go on down the line. I

1974
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 10: would I theorize this as well. George McCaskey. The last

1975
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 10: couple of weeks, even going back to that game against

1976
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 10: the Jaguars, Bucky, he's been seene in a lot of tailgates,

1977
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 10: and hanging out trying to be every man. I'm gonna

1978
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 10: guarantee he gave somebody his phone number. One of those

1979
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 10: fans got his phone number, and that was the end

1980
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 10: of it, because then it was an endless barrage.

1981
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: Of what the hell are we doing? What are we doing?

1982
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 10: By the way, I also the full circle thing, Andy,

1983
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 10: since you brought up the hail Mary, going back to

1984
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 10: that Washington game, Notice how Caleb's last second desperation he

1985
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 10: didn't get to the end zone either, just kind of

1986
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 10: throwing it out from you.

1987
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 3: I will say this, though, I don't want to see

1988
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 3: anybody on any profession, on any level, get fired. I

1989
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 3: don't call for it on the air. I don't want

1990
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 3: to see it happen because it's disgusting. It's painful, it

1991
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 3: is it's embarrassing, especially in a visual situation like that,

1992
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 3: you know, professional coach. But what I dislike more than

1993
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 3: anything else, that as soon as that game ended, social

1994
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 3: media blew up he should be fired now. And then

1995
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 3: you got these blow hard media people saying I called it,

1996
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 3: I knew he coult fired. That makes me sick. And

1997
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 3: you notice a lot of time you probably saw that

1998
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: in Chicago.

1999
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: You probably.

2000
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 10: Well, but I'll go back to it even before the season. Andy,

2001
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 10: Like again, as much as there may be a promo

2002
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 10: talking about me getting people fired, I forget the context

2003
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 10: thereof I generally don't. But when the you know, the

2004
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 10: writing's on the wall and you're just talking about the organization,

2005
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 10: and look, they're like the Cowboys, the Jets, et cetera.

2006
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 10: Until there's really a change at at the ownership level,

2007
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 10: what's really substance league gonna change? Right, as much as

2008
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 10: we point to Eberflus, I don't know, an offensive lineman

2009
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 10: or two instead of roma duns, they might have helped

2010
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 10: the young quarterback out. We said it at the time,

2011
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 10: We say it again now. So Ryan Poles, for the

2012
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 10: way some of this roster has been constructed, I think

2013
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 10: he's gotten a free pass because they went and they

2014
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 10: got all the shiny toys, so it looked good to folks.

2015
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 10: But in the guts, that's where they've been getting beat.

2016
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 10: And that defense since that Washington game. You can't tell

2017
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 10: me they didn't quit on that guy to some level.

2018
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's something to that, you know

2019
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like in terms of just not being

2020
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 5: able to do it. Bears aren't built the right way.

2021
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 5: They did go for the shiny parts. And let look,

2022
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 5: there's going to be a conversation that needs to be

2023
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 5: had about Kayla Williams. We don't have to have it today,

2024
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna say this might be what they call

2025
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 5: kind of like mob thinking. For so long, for two years,

2026
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 5: we were peppered at Kayla Williams is a transcend in

2027
01:27:58,880 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 5: talent and he's Pat mahone.

2028
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 4: He's dead. He's that and what you're seeing as a player,

2029
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 4: that's not that he's a good player. He's a good prospect.

2030
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 5: I feel like maybe sometimes media types broadcasts we built

2031
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 5: him up to be something that he's not, and so

2032
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 5: our expectation is that he is being held back by coaches,

2033
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 5: which may be true. But in that moment, when I'm

2034
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 5: looking at Andy and Mike Keathy, Williams should be aware

2035
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 5: of the time score situation. He should he shouldn't. He

2036
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 5: should know that, Hey man, you know what, we only

2037
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 5: need a field goal to win. I don't need to

2038
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 5: drun this all down and then my last throat doesn't

2039
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 5: need to be a heave that doesn't go into the

2040
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 5: end zone. I just need I just need to think

2041
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 5: like we're blaming Matt Iberflish, and he does deserve some blame,

2042
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 5: but at some point, your best players are supposed to

2043
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 5: bail you out of some of those situations. I feel

2044
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 5: like he has been unscathed for his poor performance at

2045
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 5: times throughout the year.

2046
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 2: And he should be a leader.

2047
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 3: And I said this way back, and you kind of

2048
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 3: chastised me when I said this when he was at

2049
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 3: usc and after a game he went up to the

2050
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 3: stands and was crying with his mom and dad. Remember

2051
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 3: he started to cry, say, well, I don't know he's

2052
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 3: a leader. If I'm a drafting the guy, I don't

2053
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 3: know if I want a guy to be that kind

2054
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 3: of a leader. You got you gotta suck it up.

2055
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 3: You're a leader, you're the face of the team, you're

2056
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 3: the quarterback. And when he started crying after that game,

2057
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 3: I understand it's tough. You don't want to lose. But

2058
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 3: it was a bad look. That's all I'm saying. It

2059
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 3: was a bad look. Yeah, just in the moment.

2060
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 10: And I'm glad we come to you know, some common

2061
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 10: sense and a commonplace here is that if you're gonna

2062
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 10: expect it's not just about the physicality right. Your quarterback

2063
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 10: is supposed to be your guy, supposed to be your leader.

2064
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 10: By the way, that's why you also brought in Keenan

2065
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 10: Allen these guys so as much as he can say, hey,

2066
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 10: we did everything we wanted.

2067
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: I don't know you're a leader. No, you very easily

2068
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: could have done something there.

2069
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 5: So that's that's the other thing in like I tweeted that,

2070
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 5: like I mean, like, look, players also are aware.

2071
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 4: And here's what I'll say about DJ Moore and Keithan Allen.

2072
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 5: Some things that I don't like about the Bears team

2073
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 5: whine and a lot of crime behind the scenes, a

2074
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 5: lot of showing up with the coaches behind the stuff,

2075
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 5: bad body language, walking off plays while plays.

2076
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 4: Are going on.

2077
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 5: Like whoever the new coach is, I hope the first

2078
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 5: thing he does is get all those players in line,

2079
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 5: because to me, they've been able to kind of like

2080
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 5: play both sides like, oh, our coach isn't great while

2081
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 5: without acknowledging their own shortcomings and failures. I hope someone

2082
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 5: holds them accountable to their performance and the way that

2083
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:26,759
Speaker 5: they act on the field.

2084
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: Nicely done.

2085
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 10: Speaking of shortcomings and failings, No, I'm not going to

2086
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 10: give you well, I was looking.

2087
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 2: Shortcomings. I'm very you know what I'm saying now.

2088
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 1: I got nothing but love for you. You're a legend.

2089
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 10: And Andy Furman FSR at Bucky Brooks you see and

2090
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 10: read and everything he's got going on NFL at dot Com,

2091
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 10: NFL Network. Andy's got his columns and his appearances. All

2092
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 10: of that you can find in his Twitter verse as well. Gentlemen,

2093
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 10: the Ryan Dade discussion. I'm sure you guys had a

2094
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 10: little bit this morning, but I'm new to this show.

2095
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 10: This morning in the audience, uh forever revolving forty four

2096
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 10: and one against the rest of the Big ten, one

2097
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 10: in four against Michigan in what seemed like, you know,

2098
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 10: you never you know, the old throw the throw the

2099
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 10: records out.

2100
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: In this one.

2101
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 10: This is one that they weren't supposed to right, this

2102
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 10: is one that was supposed to be there. Meanwhile, you're

2103
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 10: catching strays from Syracuse, New York where Kyle McCord goes

2104
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 10: and up ends Miami on Oh they forgot their quarterback?

2105
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 10: Next level stuff? Does he have to win the whole

2106
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 10: damn thing to keep his job this time around?

2107
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: Andy Ferman, Uh.

2108
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's a different animal. College football is a

2109
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 3: different animals. Why do I say that because I don't

2110
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 3: think there's gonna be a decision by the athletic departments,

2111
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 3: to be a decision by the alums, because right now

2112
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,719
Speaker 3: they're gonna say, hey, we've forked out millions of dollars

2113
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 3: for you for nil. We're not giving you any more

2114
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 3: unless he's gone. That's the bottom line, and that the

2115
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 3: old days. I'm saying, the old days he used to

2116
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 3: be the athletic there. They will reevaluate the job that

2117
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 3: the coach has done and say, look, you know we're

2118
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 3: moving on. We're going in a different direction. This guy

2119
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 3: has won sixty and lost ten, the second best twenty

2120
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 3: percentage in Ohio State history this year ten and two.

2121
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 3: I know they lost to Oregon. They beat number three

2122
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 3: Pence State. It's unbelievable. Wood he Hayes. I mentioned this

2123
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 3: early on wood He Hayes coach twenty eight years at

2124
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: Ohio State. He lost eleven times to Michigan. He did

2125
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 3: win sixteen and he tied one. Okay, did anybody have

2126
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 3: a call for his head in Columbus?

2127
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2128
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

2129
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 3: Okay, the buck guys are in the championship playoffs, Okay,

2130
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 3: and right now.

2131
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 2: I'm going to root for them.

2132
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to root for them because I feel bad

2133
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 3: for Ryan Day that he has to defend himself. Well,

2134
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 3: people are going to defend him for what he has accomplished.

2135
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 3: It's amazing what he's accomplished. And to me, I understand

2136
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 3: it's a great place to coach. But if I'm a

2137
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 3: possibility of a coaching coming in there, why would I

2138
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 3: want that pressure cooker?

2139
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 2: Why would I want to go there? I can win

2140
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 2: every game except Michigan. I'm gonna lose my job. Doesn't

2141
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: make any sense.

2142
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 5: Here's what I'll say about Ryan Day. I think Ryan

2143
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 5: Day would benefit from just being authentic as a coach.

2144
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 5: I think Ryan Day's biggest issue is he's.

2145
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 4: Trying to be something that he's not.

2146
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 5: Like, if you're not a tough guy, don't play or

2147
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 5: pretend to be a tough guy. And I think sometimes

2148
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 5: he puts on an air about him that is not authentic.

2149
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 5: And I think his team takes on the personality of

2150
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 5: the coach, and so they're not a rough and tough team.

2151
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 5: The thing that we know about Michigan, and here's what

2152
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 5: has happened over the last four years when Michigan has

2153
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 5: beating them, they believe they can out physical and sock

2154
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 5: Ohio State in the mouth.

2155
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 4: There was a confidence that Sharon Moore had.

2156
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 5: There's a confidence that even Charles Wilson had in the pregame,

2157
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 5: like just kind of feel that they're going to be

2158
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 5: okay and until Ohio State just kind of man's up

2159
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 5: and becomes a physical team without like all the other stuff, right,

2160
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 5: just lock in, let's play, let's run the ball, Let's

2161
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 5: eliminate all the theatatricks and play. They won't beat them

2162
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 5: because right now Michigan feels like we own them in

2163
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Speaker 5: that regardless of the record, we can beat them.

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Speaker 4: And it's gonna be tough for Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: To get past the mentality he deserves to stay on

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01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 5: his job because he's too good knocking off everybody else.

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01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 5: He has to figure out a way to crack the

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Speaker 5: code when it comes to Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Well, you should beat them. I think they did beat

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Speaker 3: them in the flag fighting thing after the game.

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Speaker 4: I think that's another thing that's stupid.

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01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 5: And for him to condone that and to say that

2173
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 5: like he should have been right after that, like, hey, look,

2174
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Speaker 5: we lost the game on the field.

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Speaker 4: There's no excuse for our behavior to be that.

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Speaker 5: Regardless of what Michigan does, they shouldn't put the look.

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Speaker 5: I'll say Michigan's wrong too, because I think it's disrespectful

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01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 5: when you do that. Right, both sides like just get out,

2179
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 5: enjoy the win, but like that part of it, you're

2180
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 5: asking for a fight to happen. I know we're gonna

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01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 5: see legislation to get all that stuff out because we

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01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 5: saw it in that game Florida Florida State game.

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01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 4: We saw it at North Carolina and ce State. Too

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01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 4: many incidents. Take your flag elsewhere.

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01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 10: And stick it somewhere else wherever you can add an

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01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 10: element of silliness. We you know, life finds a way

2187
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 10: stealing from gold Boom in the wonderful world of Jurassic

2188
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 10: Park all those years ago. But yeah, that's where I

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01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:14,560
Speaker 10: want to go next because I got to take a

2190
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 10: little bit of positivity for it, for all the silliness

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01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 10: that was. We had some great sound bites that came

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01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 10: out of it, but I'll sell it and tell you this.

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01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 10: It just shows that well, regular season is not quite

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01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 10: dead yet. We'll get into that next as we continue.

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Speaker 10: It's Fox Football Sunday. That's Andy Furman, that's Bucky Brooks.

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01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 10: I'm by Carmen in this is Fox Sports Radio. Ah,

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Speaker 10: the musical interludes had begun. I love it Hey. Shortly

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Speaker 10: after the show, the podcast goes up. If you missed

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Speaker 10: any of today's show, be sure to check it out.

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Speaker 10: Go Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Weekends. Dial it down

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Speaker 1: Out the air. My weekly imploring of you.

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01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 10: You were sitting around with family, you know he could

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01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 10: just grab their phones and said, hey, I just gave

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01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 10: you your Christmas gift. Not only am I here, and

2211
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 10: I gave you the gift of my time. You take

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01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 10: a selfie, you say, I give you a selfie, and

2213
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 10: I downloaded the iHeartRadio app to make your life even better.

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01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 10: That's what it's all about. Fox Football Sunday. Mike Carmon

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01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 10: alongside Andy Furman and Andy Furmis FSR and Bucky Brooks

2216
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,879
Speaker 10: at Bucky Brooks as we continue here on a beautiful

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01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:36,520
Speaker 10: Fox Football Sunday. Yeah, I heard it summed up beautifully

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01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 10: by a Bears fan even before last Thursday's debacle against

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01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 10: the Lions. Called into the score in Chicago. As you know,

2220
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 10: I got to get the local react and the guy

2221
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:52,879
Speaker 10: just said, I'm not even mad, pause pause, I'm just tired.

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01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 10: Summed it up nicely as it were. It's like, look,

2223
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 10: my old rule of thumb, guys, if you're gonna fail,

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01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 10: fails spectacularly and across college football. We watched that a

2225
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,600
Speaker 10: bunch yesterday. But I gotta say, as much as we

2226
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 10: were doing a lot of handwringing about flags and pitchforks

2227
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 10: and all sorts of other things coming out of these

2228
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 10: rivalry games, it was nice to see that the at

2229
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 10: least for a day now, with some ugliness involved fights,

2230
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 10: maybe in Ohio state player or two actually get suspended

2231
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 10: for their first playoff game because you know they're not

2232
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 10: playing in the Big Ten title game. Is that you

2233
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 10: actually saw teams where there was still a bit of care,

2234
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 10: whereas everybody was telling me in the final weeks of

2235
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 10: the season. Ah, it wasn't gonna matter if you weren't

2236
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 10: playing for the playoffs. It wasn't going to matter. And

2237
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 10: everybody's gonna stand down, Like no, there's still some school

2238
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 10: pride left in there. There's still some fight now again.

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01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 10: You know, we made the joke about Ohio State. Would

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01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 10: have been nice if they showed some of that toughness,

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01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 10: you know, getting out out gained on the ground by

2242
01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 10: one hundred yards before that, that whole fiasco. But you know,

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01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 10: to just say that college football still had some juice

2244
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 10: in the final weekend of the regular season, it's pretty

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01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 10: nice thing, Bucky.

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01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 4: It is a nice thing.

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01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 5: And what has showed us and one of the reasons

2248
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 5: why we all love college football is it does matter

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01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 5: on a different level than it matters in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: When you get to these rivalry situations like it's I

2251
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 5: don't say it's to the death.

2252
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 4: But it's to the death.

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01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 5: And when you put them all in the last weekend,

2254
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 5: I mean, we saw some weird stuff happens, but that's

2255
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 5: it's so crazy how that can happen a robbery game,

2256
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,640
Speaker 5: but it's personal and it extends beyond that. And I

2257
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 5: was given Andy a hard time about the Ohio State

2258
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 5: Michigan thing.

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01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 4: But having witnessed that up close and personal.

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Speaker 5: It is very much like a hate situation that extends

2261
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 5: beyond like, oh, no, that's our rival. Like no, they

2262
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 5: legitimately hate each other and it comes out and.

2263
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 4: They play to it.

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01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 5: And I can appreciate, like some of the testiness and

2265
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:01,879
Speaker 5: combativeness that exists between the two disiance. But yeah, rivalry

2266
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 5: brings out something different that we normally don't see each

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01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 5: and every week in college football.

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Speaker 3: I have a different take on that, I really do,

2269
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 3: and I'm glad Bucket used to turn personal personal produ

2270
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. It's a different animal right now.

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01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 3: It's a lot like the NFL. What do I mean

2272
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 3: by that? They're playing in the NIL and they're not

2273
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 3: gonna give up. These players aren't gonna quit. You know

2274
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 3: why they want to look good on tape because they

2275
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 3: may go into the portal. They may go into the portals. Yeah,

2276
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 3: you may be playing on a team that has no

2277
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 3: chance whatsoever to get into the final twelve in the

2278
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 3: college football player, but you got a chance maybe to

2279
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 3: go to another school. I'm seeing kickers on various teams

2280
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 3: right now that go from like Arkansas Little Rock to

2281
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Speaker 3: major college players. I mean, come on, that's what it's

2282
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Speaker 3: all about, right But it's about the portal right now.

2283
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna quit. Why should I quit? I got

2284
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 3: an opportunity to a make money be going to portal

2285
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 3: and see go to a big time school.

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01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:56,839
Speaker 10: That's what it's all about right now. Wherever mind motivation

2287
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 10: is a win, right Bucky?

2288
01:39:58,600 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

2289
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,679
Speaker 5: But you also seeing the what we call the minor

2290
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 5: league situation, right the feeder system.

2291
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 4: So hey, why don't you go down there to that.

2292
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 5: Little school, you work on your game, and then we

2293
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 5: the arrogant big school would be.

2294
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 4: Like, oh, look at you, look at how you developed.

2295
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 5: Hey, coach, we'll take it from here. We'll take little Johnny.

2296
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 5: You're a player, We'll take.

2297
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 4: Him right now.

2298
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 5: That's the challenge, and that's I mean, it's very It

2299
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 5: has become very transactional when it comes to relationships between

2300
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 5: players and coaches and those things.

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01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,799
Speaker 2: The Michigan kidder came for some minor league school, didn't.

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Speaker 10: He Well, but we've had a lot, I mean, it's

2303
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 10: been there forever. It's now just magnified right now. Now,

2304
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 10: we just put a dollar amount to it. That we

2305
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 10: know of, as opposed to undisclosed meeting in back alley

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01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 10: with a handshake and everything else.

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01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 1: I want to call attention.

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01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 10: Great quote from Mullings from Michigan on the sideline, kind

2309
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 10: of talking summarizing what was going on at the end

2310
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Speaker 10: of the day.

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Speaker 1: You know, some people gotta they gotta learn how to lose. Man,

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01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: You can't.

2313
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 9: Can't be fighting and stuff just because he lost the game.

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01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 4: You know all that, and we had sixty minutes. We

2315
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 4: have four quarters to do all that fighting.

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01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: There you go, sums it up, you know, I'll get

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01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 1: it between the white lines.

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01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 10: I mean it was appropriate that there was a WWE

2320
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,759
Speaker 10: premium event called war Games last night.

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01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,719
Speaker 3: And it was probably his friend that had the Michigan

2322
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 3: flag that's stuck it in the ground.

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01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 2: Anyway, Hey, I want to give.

2324
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 10: Jason Evant some credit, by the way, doing some sideline work. Yeah,

2325
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 10: that's Jason Evon, a guy you may have drafted in

2326
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 10: your fantasy league years ago. When he got selected and

2327
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 10: he was playing with the Eagles, former Michigan Wolverine was

2328
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 10: on the sideline. He was the guy that was wrestling

2329
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:37,520
Speaker 10: the flag away from those Ohio State players.

2330
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 5: Really so it's so it's so great. Like, so you

2331
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 5: see that flag situation. You see Mike Norville from Florida,

2332
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 5: Florida State, the Florida State coach.

2333
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 4: Picks up the Florida flag.

2334
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he throws it to the other side.

2335
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 4: They've got frustration, I mean, just a lot of it.

2336
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 5: But I do love the subtle troll by the by

2337
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 5: the Michigan player, like, hey, you need to learn how

2338
01:41:59,240 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 5: to lose better.

2339
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 10: You're talking about a splashy but you had but you

2340
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 10: had that graphic during during the telecast, and look for

2341
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 10: some of these guys. I think it's it's now performative

2342
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 10: theater in the in the booth, a little bit more

2343
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 10: than it needs to be.

2344
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 1: But we'll push that aside for the moment.

2345
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

2346
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 10: The graphic that they put up of all the Ohio

2347
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 10: State guys that had won against Michigan and then they

2348
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 10: name checked every one of them, It's like, let's go through.

2349
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 1: It's like, what is this an in memoriam?

2350
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 10: Like obviously it's in the game whatever, But then all

2351
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 10: those guys, well they take another l's thought this the

2352
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 10: stake he certainly did Oklahoma.

2353
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 4: It is, yeah, it is, it is.

2354
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 5: Baker's fault because that win they put the Oklahoma flag

2355
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 5: right in the middle of the thing. The ultimate troll

2356
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:51,799
Speaker 5: guy but troll job. But as a wrestling fan, everyone

2357
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 5: loves a heel. Yes, we all love a bit of

2358
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 5: the heel. And like, here's the thing that is tough

2359
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,879
Speaker 5: for me, right because on one side, I'm like sportsman,

2360
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 5: you shake hands or whatever. But there's another part of

2361
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 5: me and it's like, you know, when the right yeah

2362
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 5: you kind of you kind of you know the w

2363
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,719
Speaker 5: W E and me what.

2364
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, stick your chest. I get a little chesty and

2365
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 4: let them know. Well.

2366
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 10: Also, it's a week where I mean we're talking Gladiator too.

2367
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 10: Is at the box office? I heard the Moana question earlier.

2368
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 10: You also could have gone and seen Denzel and maybe

2369
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 10: you channeled the original. Are you not entertained? Is this

2370
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 10: not why you were here? You came for violence, We

2371
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 10: gave you violence.

2372
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 3: This is gonna be called the Baker Mayfield rule. Now, yeah,

2373
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 3: bring a flag. You don't know how to bring a

2374
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 3: flag anymore.

2375
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 10: I think everybody's just gonna be forced to do the

2376
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 10: Iowa wave from each sideline, or there will be some

2377
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 10: random barrier that comes up in the final five seconds.

2378
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: Again, owing to the original.

2379
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 10: Gladiator where they'd let those tigers free in the coliseum.

2380
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: They're chained of course. Whatever else did you see Gladiator

2381
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 1: to there? I haven't seen it yet.

2382
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 10: Tried to get the family out of his visiting my

2383
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 10: mom and pop down in Florida High Mom, hih, dad,

2384
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 10: if you're listening, try tried to coax them. But we

2385
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:08,799
Speaker 10: we sat and watched a lot of football and hockey.

2386
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 10: My dad's really gravitated towards hockey.

2387
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 2: Really gotcha.

2388
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 5: I like, I'm more of a playoff hockey guy. But

2389
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 5: I like the new overtime rules. They open it up

2390
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, like.

2391
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 10: As opposed to the dopey way we do overtime and

2392
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 10: everything else. As much as I love that Georgia game

2393
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 10: that was crazy time, I know why I hate the

2394
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,560
Speaker 10: two point conversion to finish it right. You know, me

2395
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 10: and my daughter playing you know, competitive soccer. There's nothing

2396
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 10: worse than leaving your heart on the line and then

2397
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 10: it's like, all right, let's go to penalty cakes like

2398
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 10: doing pks.

2399
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 4: You just want to play forever, Yes, I want to

2400
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 4: play forever.

2401
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,679
Speaker 3: Take the clock off, damn right, next goal win, sudden death,

2402
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 3: sudden that is.

2403
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 1: Right there you go. We wait, we ran the gamut.

2404
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 10: As we run through here, it's Fox Football Sunday on

2405
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 10: a beautiful week thirteen in the National Football League. No

2406
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 10: team's on by already four gas in the book. Perhaps

2407
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 10: if you're one of those teams that's already played, you've

2408
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 10: got a giant to do list, you know, because you

2409
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 10: can start getting the holiday holiday holiday decorations out and

2410
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 10: all that stuff. But we do have games still to play.

2411
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 10: You guys have laid out a number of them. Let's

2412
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 10: start picking away at the rest of them. Rams at Sea,

2413
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 10: taking away at the rest of the carcass to go

2414
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 10: to the full Thanksgiving metaphor, as it were. Rams two

2415
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 10: and a half point favorite time on the road at

2416
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 10: New Orleans forty nine is your total. You've got back

2417
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 10: to back wins, you know, coaching chain shuffle it up

2418
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 10: in deal. They ended that seven game winning or losing streak.

2419
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 10: I should say coming off a bye week is New

2420
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 10: Orleans as well. They're mediocre at best and both overall

2421
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 10: statistics for the Rams you're looking at giving up they're

2422
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 10: only rushing for ninety five yards a game. For Kyron Williams,

2423
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 10: as much as he's had of knows for the end zone.

2424
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 10: They haven't been able to sustain a run all year

2425
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 10: but four and two since thereby losers of two of

2426
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 10: three and they give up a ton on the ground.

2427
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 10: So maybe one of those days where you got to

2428
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 10: combine Kamara slash Taysom Hill. Chaos kind of situation for

2429
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 10: you here. Either way, Rams still trying to fight in

2430
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 10: what is a very odd NFCUS Bucky Brooks, I'll start

2431
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 10: with you.

2432
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 5: Let's go to Rams and we can go to Rams

2433
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 5: because this is look, it is time.

2434
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 4: The division is still within reach. They need to play better.

2435
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford has to put on this cape and you

2436
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 5: need those guys on the perimeter to make it happen.

2437
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 4: Cup Pukinakua.

2438
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 5: They got to get the run game going because defensively

2439
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 5: they're not able to hold people down. They have to

2440
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 5: control the game with the offense. But the offense is

2441
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 5: good enough to get it done against the Saints.

2442
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 3: You know on GLEG you mentioned Colin Williams because he

2443
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,879
Speaker 3: ran well against the Eagles last week for the Rams.

2444
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 3: If he could get that done today and he had

2445
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,680
Speaker 3: a couple of big runs and that when he does that,

2446
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 3: I think he sets up that play action pass and

2447
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 3: he gives some room for the receivers for the Rams

2448
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 3: to work with Matthew Stafford. So I just think there

2449
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 3: are better players on the Rams. It's hard to believe

2450
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 3: that five and six, but they've been hit with injuries.

2451
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 3: I just think the Rams win. I think the Rams

2452
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 3: win pretty handily today against the Saints.

2453
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 10: Remember you can always like guys runs, run the ball

2454
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 10: when you're down thirty points.

2455
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, You're right like the Rams, like the Rams.

2456
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 4: Yes, and he's going for a blowouty.

2457
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 1: I like that.

2458
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 2: As I said, let's say blow it that double digit win?

2459
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 2: Is it blowout?

2460
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 5: Hey?

2461
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 1: That's here, You're two and a half on the road.

2462
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Andy, and Andy's call him blowouts.

2463
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:27,679
Speaker 1: I dig that. Let's see if he's got a couple

2464
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: of more in him.

2465
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eagles and Ravens. Hey that for mention Eagles.

2466
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 10: Here we go that winners thirty seven to twenty in

2467
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 10: that game against the Rams. Sakuon Barkley making his push,

2468
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 10: everybody jumping on board that MVP talk and the bandwagon. Well,

2469
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 10: you're looking at a couple of teams that are been

2470
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:46,759
Speaker 10: very good against the Ron Baltimore giving up just seventy

2471
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 10: eight yards per game, Philly giving up just ninety nine.

2472
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 10: That's first and seventh respectively for Philly. A couple of injuries,

2473
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 10: obviously the Brandon Graham injury. Curious to see how much

2474
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 10: that stings them. Darius Slay also left their last game,

2475
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 10: so keeping an eye, but seven straight wins since their

2476
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 10: bye week, twenty three or points are fewer allowed in

2477
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 10: each of those. Six of the seven actually at twenty

2478
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 10: or fewer for the Ravens, winners of three of five

2479
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 10: losses against Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Take that for what it is.

2480
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 10: Second highest scoring offense in the game is Baltimore at

2481
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 10: thirty points per Philadelphia again seventh twenty six point nine.

2482
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 1: This one is a Baltimore three point favorite.

2483
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 10: Fifty one, gentlemen, your total, So fantasy owners, rejoice, Andy Furman,

2484
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 10: who's winning this game?

2485
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 3: You know I'm gleg you mentioned all the stats because

2486
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm throwing them out. The win though right now, because

2487
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 3: this is must see TV. This is gonna be the

2488
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:43,719
Speaker 3: best game of the day, and this basically is Derek

2489
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 3: Henry against Sekuon Barkley, and it's gonna be clock management,

2490
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 3: clock controlling and controlling the football, a constant dose of

2491
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 3: running the football. Whoever can control the football more and

2492
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 3: longer will win this game. And I gotta believe it's

2493
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 3: gonna be Saquon Barkley in the Philadelphia Eagles.

2494
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, you like that going on the road.

2495
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, A short trip you Yeah, short trip to me.

2496
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 5: I think this is a big game, a bigger game

2497
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 5: for Baltimore than Philadelphia.

2498
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 4: They have to prove.

2499
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 5: That they can win these big games and kind of

2500
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 5: do it in impressive fashion. Yes, they got a big

2501
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 5: win against the Charges, but to me, this is one

2502
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 5: of the way they have to make a statement game,

2503
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 5: and Lamar Jackson has to make a statement.

2504
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 4: He is going to win the MVP. But it's kind

2505
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 4: of like, hu hum, I need to see one.

2506
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 5: Of those magical games from him. I'm gonna go with

2507
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 5: Baltimore in this matchup.

2508
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 10: It's a curiosity because you both kind of alluded to

2509
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 10: and Andy you went to it specifically in terms of

2510
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 10: clock control and coaching and everything else. Like both of

2511
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 10: these guys are going to be a little i don't know,

2512
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 10: reckless and lou stepping in the final minutes in games.

2513
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:51,799
Speaker 3: But remember the Eagles have the NFL's top total defense.

2514
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 3: And that's that's gonna be a big factor, controlling the

2515
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 3: football with great defense.

2516
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 2: He's gotta beat the Eagles today.

2517
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 1: There you go, he's got it all set up.

2518
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 2: It's a short trip. I think they go by train.

2519
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 2: I think they take Amtrak all aboard America.

2520
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 4: What's that? I think that that's the Excella, the Excela

2521
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 4: where you can go.

2522
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 2: Yes, yeh see.

2523
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Now we're all learning stuff about.

2524
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 2: The Cardinal from Cincinnati to Chicago.

2525
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 10: Here you oh, Cardinal full dining car. Do you get

2526
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,679
Speaker 10: someone to come through with the cart like you're on

2527
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 10: the dog boards express?

2528
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 4: I think I think on those things though, you just

2529
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 4: get sandwiches and stuff.

2530
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 10: Though, right, we got someone bringing carting station and everything there?

2531
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 1: And are you all suited up to I can.

2532
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 2: Set open the bar, open bar.

2533
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't get a hot meal on the on

2534
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 4: those trains.

2535
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 1: Wow, this just escalated quickly here, Bucky.

2536
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 2: Oh.

2537
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:50,839
Speaker 4: I just thought, yeah, I think, wow, and some snacks.

2538
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 4: I thought, you get.

2539
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 3: Whatever you Want's the greatest there really is. You got

2540
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 3: the windows, see the country passing by.

2541
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 10: There you go life watching the world go by.

2542
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 1: I have so many one liners that I can run.

2543
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 10: My head's gonna explode and Andy Ferman FSR where you

2544
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 10: find him on Twitter. There's Bucky at Bucky Brooks find

2545
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 10: me over at Zwollodome. A couple more games, Let to

2546
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 10: go and our analysis and breakdown of what is the

2547
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 10: remainder of Week thirteen of your National Football League season.

2548
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 10: Stick with us here from the Tirac dot com studios.

2549
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 10: It's Fox Football Sunday.

2550
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio.

2551
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,440
Speaker 10: It's Fox Football Sunday Live from the Tirerac dot com studios.

2552
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 10: Mike Carmen alongside Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. Appreciate the guys.

2553
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,679
Speaker 10: Appreciate y'all being up with us. Mark and Shay making

2554
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 10: a sound so pretty this morning, Week thirteen of your

2555
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 10: National FOOTBA League season. We already have action in the

2556
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 10: Premier League going on, Chelsea with a one nil lead

2557
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 10: just fifteen minutes into that one. So I've got soccer

2558
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 10: heading into a full slate of NFL actions. So much

2559
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 10: going on, folks paying attention to the debacles of big

2560
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:02,480
Speaker 10: time programs in the National Basket Ball Association. College basketball

2561
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 10: has been fun and then yesterday obviously was fight night

2562
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 10: across college football. But we get back into the fun

2563
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 10: of the NFL. Does one team have a fight left

2564
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 10: in him? Forty nine ers at Bill We're gonna find

2565
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 10: out in short order Sunday Night football. Lots of snow,

2566
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 10: twenty bucks, hot chocolate, and a hearty thank you is

2567
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 10: what you get if you want to go shovel snow

2568
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 10: there in Buffalo, Andy, you sign it up for that.

2569
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: I think I got you. Gotta up the offer.

2570
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 2: For meno my own house. What would show a little bit.

2571
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 4: No, that's just it.

2572
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,759
Speaker 1: Let's let's deploy some snowblowers and some able bodied teams.

2573
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 2: Well, they got five feet of snow in Buffalo, they said,

2574
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 2: don't they.

2575
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something insane like that.

2576
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 10: Forty four and a half is the total Buffalo six

2577
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 10: point favorites party back in this one back to back

2578
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 10: losses to take them under five hundred. You've got Josh

2579
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 10: Allen congratulation on getting engaged. Hailey Steinfeld, the other superstar

2580
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 10: in the relationship with a quarterback. Most folks don't remember.

2581
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:00,479
Speaker 10: She was in Hawkeye. She was also in Pitch Perfect.

2582
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 10: I think true. Yeah, one of those. Now you're looking

2583
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 10: at the Bills defense that I think has been better

2584
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 10: than many realize because look It's all about the offense

2585
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 10: of what they're doing, because you know, now Brady's name

2586
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 10: starts making the rounds for is he a head coach possibility.

2587
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 10: We'll get into all of that next hour with Bucky

2588
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 10: Brooks six straight wins after there before thereby thirty thirty

2589
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 10: or more points and five straight there Josh Allen just

2590
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 10: has one three hundred yard game on the year.

2591
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 1: Gentlemen, as we roll through, but.

2592
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 10: San Francisco, last ditch effort, last Dan, can they plan

2593
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 10: a flag in Buffalo?

2594
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 1: Andy?

2595
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 3: You know, I will tell you this much. It's kind

2596
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 3: of a shame because I don't think we really know

2597
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 3: how good the forty nine ers would have been without

2598
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 3: those impact players getting injured all year long. Really Christian

2599
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 3: McCaffrey when he missed eight games. Hopefully brock Party Place

2600
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:48,679
Speaker 3: today it plays healthily.

2601
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 2: I mean we know that.

2602
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 3: But you know Buffalo right now. They got the bye

2603
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 3: week last week, so I got some rest after a

2604
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 3: big win over the Chiefs, which gives them some momentum push,

2605
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 3: which I don't know if they really needed because they're

2606
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 3: not right now. And it really forty nine as were

2607
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 3: the team that most people thought would be back in

2608
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl this year. You know now they're clinging

2609
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 3: on just to make the playoffs. I think the Bills

2610
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:11,719
Speaker 3: are going to win. The Bills are healthy, The Bills

2611
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 3: are better right now, and you know, they're playing together,

2612
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 3: and they're playing football defensively and offensively, both sides of

2613
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 3: the football. And you know what, people don't mention this.

2614
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 3: I think the Bills are a better team now without

2615
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs. I think he was a problem.

2616
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 10: I think all the Bills players made sure to let

2617
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,600
Speaker 10: us know that, didn't they Bucky.

2618
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 5: They did a little addition by subtraction, as has been

2619
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 5: told to me. Here's what I'll say about San Francisco

2620
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 5: forty nine ers. I'm not surprised that they're struggling. You

2621
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 5: can see signs of this coming one whenever you lose

2622
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. The way that they lost.

2623
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 4: The Super Bowl hangover is hard to shake.

2624
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 5: Secondly, over the course of the off season, everybody had

2625
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 5: their hand at It reminded me of playing monopoly, like

2626
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 5: everyone's sticking their hand out of a You got to

2627
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 5: pay the man. So you had you had Brennan, You're

2628
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 5: pouting and wining for money. You had Christian McCaffrey getting

2629
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 5: his money. Trent Williams, it's hard when everybody.

2630
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 4: Is not fully connected.

2631
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 5: Yes, you want to see everyone get paid, but when

2632
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 5: they were missing parts of camp and not being there

2633
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 5: and all this other stuff, the chemistry and the connectivity

2634
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 5: was not right, and it's hard to go to the

2635
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 5: Super Bowl back to back. I just didn't feel like

2636
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 5: they had the same focus when it came to it.

2637
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 5: And oh, by the way, I think people need to

2638
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 5: look and see. They got rid of Steve Wilkes, the

2639
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 5: defensive coordinated, because he was to blame for all of

2640
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 5: their woes. Their defense is not the same. It's not

2641
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 5: even close to what it was a year ago, and

2642
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 5: it's certainly not at the level that it.

2643
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 4: Has been when they had been able to rely on it.

2644
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 4: There's a difference.

2645
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 3: So one of the furio is that even if the

2646
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 3: guys were healthy, you don't think they would have been

2647
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 3: back to the super Bowl now.

2648
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think they were in

2649
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 4: the right frame of mind. And I think the moves

2650
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 4: because with a knee jerk reaction to get rid of Wilkes,

2651
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 4: the moves have not worked out.

2652
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 5: And let's be honest, the team is getting older, they're

2653
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 5: nearing the.

2654
01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 4: End of their run.

2655
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 5: It's been a great championship window. They would have to

2656
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 5: reboot it though.

2657
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, in the end, I can't stipulate out injuries because

2658
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:10,880
Speaker 10: with Christian McCaffrey, well, this is uh, it's unfortunate. It's

2659
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 10: almost half expected though it wasn't it. I mean, how

2660
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 10: many healthy seasons had you gotten out of him? Right,

2661
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 10: last four? That's that's kind of what it is, right right,

2662
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 10: So when he's got to be the base of everything,

2663
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 10: gadgetry with with Deebo Samuel another guy looking to get

2664
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 10: paid right, next level kind of stuff. So, yeah, all

2665
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 10: those fractures certainly finding their way in. And then finally

2666
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 10: Brown said Bronco, Hey, yeah.

2667
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 1: The browns our gout.

2668
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 10: Shay can't find a decent pair of brown shorts. So

2669
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 10: anybody that's got a line on something that you know,

2670
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 10: a guy of his ilk and stature would wear, you

2671
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 10: gotta let me know, Shay. You found one pair this

2672
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 10: morning and it was sold out.

2673
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 8: Sold out.

2674
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 4: I was.

2675
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 7: I was on this website that has like cool sports

2676
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 7: NFL gear and they had one Browns thing, well, they

2677
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 7: had two Browns thing, one Browns thing that was cool,

2678
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 7: which was the shorts that were sold out.

2679
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 3: So if you got they weren't sold out, nobody wants

2680
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 3: to buy. And that's why didn't put him on there.

2681
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh wow, because you know what they say though in Cincinnati,

2682
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 3: at least if it's brown, flush it down.

2683
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 8: Aren't you a Bengals?

2684
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, keep it clean, dope.

2685
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 1: That's what they're saying. That's kind of what he was

2686
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 1: saying there.

2687
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 4: Friendly kid friendly.

2688
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a family show, there's no question about it. Hey,

2689
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 10: By the way, tell the Bengals to either play some

2690
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 10: defense or you know, don't give up the first two

2691
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 10: weeks of a season.

2692
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 1: Every But you know.

2693
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 3: What Bucky says, true, they had their hands out too,

2694
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, I mean that's a problem.

2695
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 1: T Higgins tell me that's not.

2696
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the differences. The difference is the Bengals

2697
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 4: didn't pay them.

2698
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 5: So yeah, what I feel like you got like a

2699
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 5: little silent protest going on amongst the White House right.

2700
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 10: Well, I don't know, Jamar Chase still putting up his

2701
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,839
Speaker 10: so hard to argue with what they're now. T Higgins

2702
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 10: missing five games, I wouldn't say I'd be missing work.

2703
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 10: Bob Denver six point favorites forty two. The total bo

2704
01:57:58,160 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 10: Nicks of that offense, showing some twenty eight plus four

2705
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 10: of their last six four and two in that stretch.

2706
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 10: The tough losses to the Chiefs and to the Chargers.

2707
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 10: Along the way, defense has played really good football. Vance

2708
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 10: Joseph back on the sideline, probably as a head coach

2709
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 10: question mark, We've been asking it for weeks. On the

2710
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 10: other side, again owing to our guy Shay, who throws

2711
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 10: his hands up in discuss going I wanted to beat Pittsburgh,

2712
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 10: but I don't want him to win more games. So

2713
01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 10: what have we got three wins this year? Jaguars, Steelers,

2714
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 10: and Ravens. So show up for rival rivalry week, I

2715
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 10: guess is what it's all about. For the Browns. Bucky

2716
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 10: will start with you.

2717
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 4: M Yeah, let's go to Browns. You know what they're

2718
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 4: just feeling like Jamis Winston.

2719
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: I just feel like I want to hear.

2720
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 5: I kind of want to hear him eat some dubs

2721
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 5: at the end. I just kind of feel I can't

2722
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 5: wait to hear what the postgame stuff is just going

2723
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 5: it for the Browns. I didn't think they went last Thursday.

2724
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 5: They found a way to get it done.

2725
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 4: Positivity really.

2726
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 3: Sean Payton's though, man, Kimmy Bow, Knicks and Sunton. This

2727
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 3: the new combination right now in the NFL is Sutton

2728
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 3: to Nix, Nicks to Stton. That's what it's all about.

2729
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 3: And honestly, you know, if the Browns could put some

2730
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 3: pressure on Knicks with Miles Garrett, they got a shot.

2731
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 3: Other than that, Sean Payton's demand, give him some Skyline chili.

2732
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 10: They're gonna win, nicely done. Still a long time since

2733
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 10: that last Super Bowl. Again owing to past arguments about

2734
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 10: guys and how great they are, they may or may

2735
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 10: not be.

2736
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 11: I had Andy Ferman FSR. Where you find him in

2737
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 11: the tuit of Hey, I call it what it is.

2738
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 11: I want winners. He's Bucky Brooks. He'll stay with me

2739
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 11: as we continue here. It's Fox Football Sunday. He's back

2740
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 11: after five long years, finally making his return. What's that

2741
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 11: all about?

2742
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 10: We'll tell you well, coming up here in a moment

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01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,520
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2749
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:01,839
Speaker 10: Fun last hour with him. We continue on Bucky Brooks

2750
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 10: and myself. Bucky five years in the league, working with

2751
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 10: the Jaguars, NFL dot Com, NFL Network, Foxsports dot Com,

2752
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:10,680
Speaker 10: and of course here with us each and every week.

2753
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 10: In addition to coaching, mentoring all the things he's doing.

2754
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 10: He might release a country album by the end of

2755
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 10: the year.

2756
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

2757
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 4: Why not?

2758
02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 5: Why not? Man, I'm good man. I love hearing my

2759
02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 5: guy Dan Bayer doing the update. That was That was fun.

2760
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 5: It's been a minute since I've had a chance to

2761
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 5: talk to him, but yeah, everything's good, Man, can't a play.

2762
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Dan in a couple of minutes.

2763
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 10: He's there in at the news desk, fired up because look,

2764
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 10: all you have to do is say Ohio State and

2765
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 10: I think his ears are gonna per cup and he

2766
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 10: looked at me. He's like, you're a jerk. But hey,

2767
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 10: he's got an important game for the Seahawks. He doesn't

2768
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 10: have time to rest on his laurels. Okay, Rivalry weekend

2769
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 10: is in the books, but a lot of excitement to

2770
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 10: come for the rankings. A little bit later on as

2771
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:58,560
Speaker 10: we go through and we get to those next playoff things.

2772
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:05,040
Speaker 10: But the turn of a long beloved player at the

2773
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:07,680
Speaker 10: collegiate level, right, one of those generational talents, because you know,

2774
02:01:07,720 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 10: we get one of those every year. But but a

2775
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 10: guy that was and flashed and then just like that

2776
02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:14,360
Speaker 10: he was gone.

2777
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is back. And no not just the.

2778
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 10: Captain Andrew Luck Twitter account, although that comes back with it.

2779
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:24,320
Speaker 10: Andrew Luck is going to be the new GM of

2780
02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:28,920
Speaker 10: the Stanford Cardinal. Now this is a curiosity at this

2781
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:33,120
Speaker 10: next level of NIL and restructuring college to college and

2782
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 10: trying to figure out these type of scenarios. It's kind

2783
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 10: of like the game coordinators in the National Football League,

2784
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 10: you know, the guys that are supposed to be up

2785
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 10: in the booth to tell you when to take a

2786
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:47,640
Speaker 10: time out, down, distance, execution, all of those things. Not

2787
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 10: every team has gone down that road yet. Likewise for

2788
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 10: the collegiate world, bringing in a guy with the acumen,

2789
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 10: the history, the legend that is Andrew Luck, I mean

2790
02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:03,520
Speaker 10: for the Stanford Cardinal program a huge boost. If nothing else,

2791
02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:06,040
Speaker 10: you get the headline and the fact that this guy

2792
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 10: gets to be on the recruiting trail for you.

2793
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, really interesting scenario. Right, So Andrew Luck comes back

2794
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 5: as general manager. He is in charge of overseeing all

2795
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 5: things football. I didn't notice, but it really shows you

2796
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 5: how quickly things can fall. They haven't won like more

2797
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:26,200
Speaker 5: than four games in the last six or seven.

2798
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a miserable run.

2799
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:33,360
Speaker 5: That is crazy, right, Remember how they were a power

2800
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:35,360
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like Jim Harbough, givets it,

2801
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 5: hands it off to David Shaw.

2802
02:02:36,520 --> 02:02:38,040
Speaker 4: David Shaw takes it to another level.

2803
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 5: Andrew Luck and those guys are winning a ton of

2804
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 5: games and then they fell off a cliff and.

2805
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 4: So back to back seasons right now, three and nine.

2806
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 4: Not able to sustain the success.

2807
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:50,920
Speaker 5: Andrew Luck is going to help and overseeing everything, helping

2808
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 5: with the recruiting and all of that. Really interesting because

2809
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 5: he goes back after he retires from the Colts, he

2810
02:02:56,360 --> 02:03:00,200
Speaker 5: goes back to Stanford, gets his masters and you know

2811
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 5: the pedigree is there because you remember his dad, Oliver

2812
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 5: Luck Rant was in charge of it.

2813
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:06,920
Speaker 4: Was it the ufl US one of one.

2814
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:09,760
Speaker 1: Of those leagues USFL at some point, yeah, yeah.

2815
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 4: Like one of those alternative leagues.

2816
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 5: And so he has that sports administrative thing in his background.

2817
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 4: It'd be interesting to see.

2818
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:21,360
Speaker 1: He was the first the XL Yes, there you go.

2819
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see how he utilizes all

2820
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 5: of his experience as a player to help Stanford get

2821
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,440
Speaker 5: back on track because they have they have fallen, that

2822
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 5: mighty have fallen.

2823
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:33,840
Speaker 10: Well, it is curious right in some of his comments immediately,

2824
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,040
Speaker 10: you know, kind of saying, look, we've changed the landscape.

2825
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:38,880
Speaker 10: Now we get to a twelve team playoff. Remember during

2826
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 10: our run, we would have had multiple appearances right right,

2827
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:45,320
Speaker 10: look at the field there, so like they look, the

2828
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 10: rules of engagement have changed in terms of you just

2829
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:50,800
Speaker 10: needed to be and you had to fight to the

2830
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 10: top four. So between scheduling and everything else, it became

2831
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 10: a all right, we can't lose the one. Now we're

2832
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 10: having debates and fights about, you know, the merits of

2833
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 10: three loss teams. We've talked about this a bunch in

2834
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:04,560
Speaker 10: the last few weeks. But you know, for Andrew Luck,

2835
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 10: you're sitting there going, you know, is there a scenario

2836
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,960
Speaker 10: whereby we can be back to that periphery periphery right

2837
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:14,320
Speaker 10: where we're talking about the student athlete still student bar

2838
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:17,560
Speaker 10: of that. I think it at some institutions some others.

2839
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 10: That's long long gone, and folks can lament what they want.

2840
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 10: It's it's always been a slippery slope in terms of

2841
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 10: that forever anyway. But for Andrew Luck, the gravitas, the

2842
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 10: know how and certainly owing to the success that they had,

2843
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:37,560
Speaker 10: be curious to see this next iteration from a business perspective.

2844
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:43,040
Speaker 10: Can you motivate you know, Stanford alum right to get there.

2845
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 5: I don't know if you can. I don't know if

2846
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:46,000
Speaker 5: you can get the money there. But I think there's

2847
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,120
Speaker 5: a different way to be able to do it. I'm

2848
02:04:48,160 --> 02:04:50,480
Speaker 5: looking at a school. Let's talk about the schools that

2849
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 5: are comparable to Stanford, because I think it's important that

2850
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:55,520
Speaker 5: Stanford knows who they are and how they have to build.

2851
02:04:55,560 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 4: So we would say Notre Dame academically would be fishing.

2852
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 5: From the same pod as and for Northwestern Duke Rice,

2853
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:05,320
Speaker 5: those are typically the teams that fish from that same

2854
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 5: high academic student athlete pond. Well, you look at Duke,

2855
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:12,840
Speaker 5: they're having success many ds is being able to do it.

2856
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 4: After Mike Elko got to start it, they've been able to.

2857
02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:18,720
Speaker 5: Do it with graduate transfers, guys who see the appeal

2858
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:21,560
Speaker 5: and having a graduate degree from Duke or whatever.

2859
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:24,520
Speaker 4: Notre Dame is a little different because Notre Dame has the.

2860
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:28,720
Speaker 5: Allure of the glorious past that they can bring students into.

2861
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 5: Academic degree certainly has significance and weight. So SAMFI can

2862
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:35,560
Speaker 5: look at that, but can't quite duplicate it. Northwestern would

2863
02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 5: be an interesting case study in terms of how they

2864
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 5: go about doing their.

2865
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 4: Thing in terms of Stanford.

2866
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 5: Do they look at themselves as peers or superior to Northwestern?

2867
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 4: And how does that impact it?

2868
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 5: But there's a path to victory, and if you're Andrew

2869
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:54,600
Speaker 5: Luck in those things. I do wonder if college football

2870
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 5: will start being like the NCAA tournament, so they're teams

2871
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 5: that hang banners for just making.

2872
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:02,120
Speaker 4: The final four.

2873
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 5: The final four is a bit of the pinnacle, more

2874
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 5: so than winning the national title. If your Stanford is

2875
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 5: the goal to say, hey man, if we make the playoff,

2876
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:14,080
Speaker 5: that is good enough for us. We just need to

2877
02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:16,200
Speaker 5: be one of the top twelve teams in the country

2878
02:06:16,240 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 5: as opposed to the number one team in the country.

2879
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:20,640
Speaker 5: Can we build a team to do that? Well, I'm

2880
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 5: looking at as some you do it. I'm looking at

2881
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 5: Army being on the fringes of being able to do it.

2882
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:27,760
Speaker 5: So there's a way to do it is how are

2883
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:30,680
Speaker 5: they going to go about it with the without compromising

2884
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 5: their academic reputation and standards.

2885
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean that is the curiosity because you would

2886
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 10: have thought, to some level, if organized, those schools might

2887
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:42,240
Speaker 10: have had a first move or advantage.

2888
02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 1: Right when the door is open to you know, good

2889
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:46,480
Speaker 1: have ben right, you know what I mean?

2890
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:49,600
Speaker 10: Like the Northwestern Now you know there's these giant you know,

2891
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 10: collective you know, pr press releases that are going out

2892
02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 10: saying hey, you know, you know we've we're now ready

2893
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 10: to engage in this. I'm like, you had a couple

2894
02:06:57,760 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 10: of years where you could have won, you could have

2895
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 10: won the space right for the guys, And let's face it,

2896
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 10: there's a little bit of a sliding scale in terms

2897
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:08,160
Speaker 10: of what you need to be.

2898
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:10,160
Speaker 1: And it's not to dismiss them.

2899
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 10: They're all making the grade and getting through as evidenced

2900
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:16,400
Speaker 10: by the graduation rate. But we know there's you know,

2901
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:20,440
Speaker 10: creative courses of study along the way. But for Stanford

2902
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:23,840
Speaker 10: and for Northwestern held Notre Dame in did that matter,

2903
02:07:24,160 --> 02:07:27,680
Speaker 10: Like the door's open to change the rules of engagement

2904
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:30,840
Speaker 10: and they didn't get to the table fast enough, or

2905
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 10: you might have been able to steal things for a

2906
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:35,360
Speaker 10: year or two before this started to settle in. And

2907
02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:38,280
Speaker 10: I mean, look, Michigan's just starting to get their stuff together.

2908
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:41,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so to me, so Michigan is another like high

2909
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:44,640
Speaker 5: academic public school, one of the best in the country

2910
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 5: when it comes to it. They also have been late

2911
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:50,040
Speaker 5: to do the collectives in those things. And I understand

2912
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,240
Speaker 5: it like being from North Carolina, because North Carolina also

2913
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 5: hasn't fully jumped on board. Like there's an I would

2914
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 5: say an elitists. There's an arrogance about the weight of

2915
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:01,320
Speaker 5: the degree that you like, like you should want to

2916
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:03,480
Speaker 5: come to us, We shouldn't have to go to you.

2917
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 5: But there's a happy median when it comes to that, right,

2918
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,840
Speaker 5: we talk about having kids, and we understand college and

2919
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 5: the weight of education. I just think, like Northwestern, Stanford, Duke,

2920
02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 5: even Carolina, to be able to kind of tie yourself

2921
02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:24,040
Speaker 5: to those brands, I think that would be appealing to

2922
02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:27,680
Speaker 5: someone who has a forty year vision for what they

2923
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:29,600
Speaker 5: want their life to be. And I think you have

2924
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 5: to sell that approach while also like dangling some money,

2925
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:37,320
Speaker 5: but also selling being associated and tied to those brands

2926
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:40,440
Speaker 5: are going to have lifelong benefits.

2927
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:42,760
Speaker 10: Long term value because we certainly see it all the

2928
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 10: way through and so many other programs where you recognize

2929
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:49,160
Speaker 10: that you saw a little bit of it bleed out

2930
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:51,160
Speaker 10: as we talked about it last hour with some of

2931
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:54,520
Speaker 10: the rivalry back and forth and what it means, you know,

2932
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 10: wearing those uniforms. You know, I was talking to a

2933
02:08:57,040 --> 02:09:00,440
Speaker 10: guy at the local trading card shop yesterday going through boxes,

2934
02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:04,760
Speaker 10: and he was lamenting one of the most recent releases,

2935
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:08,520
Speaker 10: which is all collegiate players and autographs and whatever else,

2936
02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:10,280
Speaker 10: all of those things in there. He goes, I don't

2937
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:12,360
Speaker 10: know what the appeal. I'm like, well, the guy from

2938
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 10: Iowa isn't changing. Right If he played for your team,

2939
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:18,720
Speaker 10: even if for a year, you become a hero. Right

2940
02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:21,040
Speaker 10: if back in the day, guys like just Settles and

2941
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:24,440
Speaker 10: you know Andre Woolridge and guys like that could have

2942
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:26,880
Speaker 10: gotten paid. They were like Tim Dwight would have been

2943
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:29,760
Speaker 10: worth five hundred million dollars, that's what he was worked

2944
02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:32,000
Speaker 10: to the state of Iowa back in the day.

2945
02:09:32,120 --> 02:09:32,280
Speaker 1: Right.

2946
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 10: So you know those guys in their municipalities and in

2947
02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:39,560
Speaker 10: those cities, you know, they've got a feeder line for

2948
02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 10: income forever, but trying to explain to him the appeal

2949
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 10: for you know, and people's love of college. Right when

2950
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 10: you get through to the pros, you know, guys you

2951
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:52,920
Speaker 10: like him as long as they're there, and as soon

2952
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:54,400
Speaker 10: as they move on, it's like, ah, he had a

2953
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 10: good run, but he's you know, insert team X. Now,

2954
02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:01,440
Speaker 10: of course, with college football and transfer rules, it's changing

2955
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 10: because you're ripping cards and going, yeah, that guy's not

2956
02:10:03,680 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 10: even at that school by the time they printed them,

2957
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:09,160
Speaker 10: and the'se moved on. But just that idea of you know,

2958
02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 10: that familiarity that I don't want to say ownership because

2959
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:16,040
Speaker 10: that always brings a bad connotation to it, but you

2960
02:10:16,080 --> 02:10:18,920
Speaker 10: know to where you do have that built in base

2961
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:21,200
Speaker 10: that they're going to look after you. You know, you're

2962
02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:24,440
Speaker 10: one of theirs forever. Again, that forty year plan you're

2963
02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:27,840
Speaker 10: talking about with Northwestern that gets localized to a three

2964
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:32,200
Speaker 10: to five year plan with maybe a lifetime revenue stream.

2965
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:34,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's something to it. I just think

2966
02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:36,040
Speaker 5: it's like you've got smart people in the room. You

2967
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:38,800
Speaker 5: should be able to figure those things out. And it's changing,

2968
02:10:38,840 --> 02:10:40,600
Speaker 5: and I know college sports are changing.

2969
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 4: I can't.

2970
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:43,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I won't to always say for the better,

2971
02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:45,160
Speaker 5: but it's just a changing thing. And so you have

2972
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 5: to figure out how do you want to toe that

2973
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:51,360
Speaker 5: line on amateurism and professionalism and those things. And I

2974
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:53,920
Speaker 5: think you have to, based on where you're at, kind

2975
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 5: of figure out what are we comfortable with, what is

2976
02:10:57,240 --> 02:10:59,960
Speaker 5: in line with our brand, and how can we preserve

2977
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:04,480
Speaker 5: of the brand while also being competitive enough to field

2978
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:06,959
Speaker 5: a team that makes people want to come to our institution.

2979
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, so it'll be curious see Andrew Luck again citing

2980
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:12,880
Speaker 10: you know, the top twelve finishes during his time there

2981
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:16,080
Speaker 10: and thinking there might be a model to fight to

2982
02:11:16,120 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 10: get back to that level before we step out and

2983
02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:21,360
Speaker 10: then we'll come back and we'll get back into the NFL.

2984
02:11:21,400 --> 02:11:23,560
Speaker 10: Here in a minute, Bucky, I'd be remiss. You mentioned

2985
02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:26,520
Speaker 10: you're alma mater North Carolina. Mac Brown out not happy

2986
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 10: about how things weigh ended there and now Arthur Smith

2987
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:33,680
Speaker 10: they're in Pittsburgh, the offensive coordinator. No, no, no, I'm not

2988
02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:35,560
Speaker 10: going to the job there. Like, did he need to

2989
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:38,480
Speaker 10: make a statement? I thought that was kind of interesting

2990
02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 10: with all of this.

2991
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:41,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had to make a statement just because UNC

2992
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:43,560
Speaker 5: had reached out like there have been overtures.

2993
02:11:43,600 --> 02:11:44,800
Speaker 4: People have been talking about it.

2994
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:48,920
Speaker 5: Right, So they're two prominent nfl ocs who are Carolina lums,

2995
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:52,320
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson and Arthur Smith. When people had to ask

2996
02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:54,080
Speaker 5: me about being Johns, I said, oh, yeah, he's well

2997
02:11:54,080 --> 02:11:54,880
Speaker 5: out the price range.

2998
02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:58,480
Speaker 10: That's not happening, not even the collective can get together.

2999
02:11:58,680 --> 02:11:59,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

3000
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 5: Arthur's myth was a little more of a viable candidate

3001
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:05,240
Speaker 5: because he's been a head coach, he was an alum there,

3002
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:07,560
Speaker 5: graduate there. But also his dad is the owner of

3003
02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:11,360
Speaker 5: a freshman FedEx. So you're saying, okay, like you not

3004
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,800
Speaker 5: only get him, but maybe you're able to get FedEx

3005
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 5: to drop some coins in in the collective to up

3006
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:20,120
Speaker 5: the ani when it comes to what you're able to

3007
02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:23,280
Speaker 5: do and provide. Now that Arthur has said, hey, I'm

3008
02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:26,600
Speaker 5: out the race, now your eyes go somewhere else, there's

3009
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:31,160
Speaker 5: been somemmer All who's at Tulane has been intriguing because

3010
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:33,960
Speaker 5: he went from Troy had success, Tulane had success. Maybe

3011
02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:36,640
Speaker 5: he follows the path that mac Brown followed from Tulane

3012
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:39,280
Speaker 5: to North Carolina. I think it's tough. I think it's

3013
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:41,560
Speaker 5: an interesting job because there's a lot of potential there,

3014
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:46,040
Speaker 5: but it's unrealized. And who wants to take on that

3015
02:12:46,200 --> 02:12:49,240
Speaker 5: challenge of taking North Carolina to the next level Because

3016
02:12:49,240 --> 02:12:52,400
Speaker 5: there's no reason why North Carolina can't be like Michigan

3017
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:53,960
Speaker 5: and some of these other schools that are good in

3018
02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:55,240
Speaker 5: basketball and football.

3019
02:12:55,320 --> 02:12:57,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, it just seems like there's an opportunity there. I

3020
02:12:57,720 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 10: was going to say, you could probably tap into some

3021
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:02,160
Speaker 10: of that basketball that's been made over decades.

3022
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,680
Speaker 5: A basketball money is different and at basketball money is

3023
02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:05,480
Speaker 5: a different animal.

3024
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:08,960
Speaker 10: Now that's a whole other giant pile. Like I'm not

3025
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:10,680
Speaker 10: even looking for a little of it. I'm not going

3026
02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 10: full Joker Dark Knight where I'm making a giant mountain

3027
02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:15,360
Speaker 10: of money and burning any of it. Like no, no, no, no,

3028
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:18,720
Speaker 10: we all win if football comes to the table too.

3029
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:22,080
Speaker 10: Like again, some of the arguments and fights that happened

3030
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:24,360
Speaker 10: in these things always amaze me, Like.

3031
02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:27,080
Speaker 1: You realize it's good for everybody, but no, but I

3032
02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:27,879
Speaker 1: gotta have mine.

3033
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:31,480
Speaker 10: He's Bucky Brooks, and Bucky Brooks, I'm over at Swollen Dome.

3034
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:34,280
Speaker 10: As we continue the National Football League Big Slate today,

3035
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:36,240
Speaker 10: already four games in the book, So we're gonna go

3036
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 10: back in a mini rewinds. Take a look at what

3037
02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:42,200
Speaker 10: we saw, because there's one team in particular that I

3038
02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:45,800
Speaker 10: have to circle wondering have we slept on them? And

3039
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:47,920
Speaker 10: are they for real? We'll talk about that as we

3040
02:13:47,960 --> 02:13:50,800
Speaker 10: continue here. It's Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio.

3041
02:13:51,440 --> 02:13:52,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back in.

3042
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:55,880
Speaker 10: It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio by Carbon alongside

3043
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:58,760
Speaker 10: Bucky Brooks. Find Bucky over on Twitter at Bucky Brooks,

3044
02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:01,960
Speaker 10: read him NFL.

3045
02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:03,480
Speaker 1: You see him everywhere. It's our guy each and every week.

3046
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:05,360
Speaker 10: Blessed to be able to do it for as long

3047
02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:07,640
Speaker 10: as we have at Swollen Dome where you find me

3048
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:10,600
Speaker 10: and remember, keep it tuned. Coming up top of the

3049
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:14,520
Speaker 10: hour ten am Eastern, seven o'clock Pacific, each and every Sunday,

3050
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:18,520
Speaker 10: It's Countdown to Kickoff presented by BETMGM, ran No, Jeff Schwartz,

3051
02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:21,880
Speaker 10: Professional better, Bill Krakenberger had you covered three hours before

3052
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:26,160
Speaker 10: kickoff every Sunday morning. All the prop bets, the moving lines,

3053
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:28,880
Speaker 10: some reviews of the good, the bad, the ugly, and

3054
02:14:28,920 --> 02:14:31,360
Speaker 10: trends that you've got going out there. Listen to Countdown

3055
02:14:31,400 --> 02:14:34,200
Speaker 10: to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM. Right here on Fox Sports

3056
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:38,200
Speaker 10: Radio and the iHeartRadio app Bill always with a couple

3057
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:41,400
Speaker 10: of fun tales from the chaos in Las Vegas. I

3058
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:45,440
Speaker 10: can't wait for his movie and or book series to find.

3059
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:47,240
Speaker 1: Its way to our stores.

3060
02:14:47,560 --> 02:14:50,720
Speaker 10: Bucky, as we roll through here here on a beautiful

3061
02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:54,040
Speaker 10: week thirteen of the NFL season, four games in the books,

3062
02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:59,080
Speaker 10: the Chiefs controversy seems to find them, luck, horseshoes, all

3063
02:14:59,080 --> 02:15:01,200
Speaker 10: of those things, Taylor, swift effect.

3064
02:15:00,920 --> 02:15:03,200
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to ascribe to it. A narrow win

3065
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:04,240
Speaker 1: Las Vegas.

3066
02:15:04,280 --> 02:15:06,720
Speaker 10: If it wasn't for everything going on in Chicago, Antonio

3067
02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:09,520
Speaker 10: Pierce might have gotten a little more heat for how

3068
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:13,440
Speaker 10: that game finished in terms of down distance, clock management,

3069
02:15:13,480 --> 02:15:16,440
Speaker 10: et cetera. And look, we just talked a little bit

3070
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:19,760
Speaker 10: about Andrew Luck and and just the changing landscape of

3071
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:22,880
Speaker 10: college football that we're bringing in GMS, and we see

3072
02:15:23,080 --> 02:15:27,480
Speaker 10: multiple teams with the coordinators not just your offensive defensive guys,

3073
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:33,280
Speaker 10: but game and down distance supervisory roles. They've ascribed many

3074
02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:36,560
Speaker 10: names to it. But in the end, why is it?

3075
02:15:36,640 --> 02:15:40,680
Speaker 10: Why is that so lacking on NFL and collegiate sidelines.

3076
02:15:42,280 --> 02:15:44,440
Speaker 5: There's a lot going on, and it takes someone to

3077
02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:47,440
Speaker 5: really study it to be good at it. There's not

3078
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:51,160
Speaker 5: a formula, and it takes experience, it takes a calm line,

3079
02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:54,160
Speaker 5: it takes poise all of those things, and sometimes we

3080
02:15:54,160 --> 02:15:57,320
Speaker 5: need to hear coach being tasked with doing that, as

3081
02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:02,959
Speaker 5: well as play calling and other stuff. It can be challenging,

3082
02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:05,640
Speaker 5: particularly when the pressure of the moment is on you.

3083
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:07,640
Speaker 4: That's why some people delegate it.

3084
02:16:07,680 --> 02:16:11,320
Speaker 5: They hand it off to an assistant who reminds them, hey,

3085
02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:12,880
Speaker 5: here's where we're at. We need to call the time

3086
02:16:12,920 --> 02:16:15,360
Speaker 5: out after this play, or you got two timeouts left,

3087
02:16:15,400 --> 02:16:18,240
Speaker 5: let's think about X, Y and Z. A lot of

3088
02:16:18,280 --> 02:16:21,960
Speaker 5: those things need to be baked out, and it happens

3089
02:16:21,960 --> 02:16:24,800
Speaker 5: at every levele sometimes, like might you just have to

3090
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:28,120
Speaker 5: have reminders on your little index card or your play

3091
02:16:28,120 --> 02:16:30,520
Speaker 5: sheet how you want to play out all of these things.

3092
02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:33,760
Speaker 5: As much as we like to think coaches are at

3093
02:16:33,800 --> 02:16:36,000
Speaker 5: their best drawing up stuff, right, we see everyone making

3094
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:39,720
Speaker 5: adjustments on the sideline. The best coaches have everything already

3095
02:16:40,280 --> 02:16:43,280
Speaker 5: worked out before they get to the game, because then

3096
02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:47,920
Speaker 5: they can just follow the protocol. Here's how we're gonna

3097
02:16:47,920 --> 02:16:50,000
Speaker 5: handle it. We've already talked about it, we discussed it.

3098
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:51,280
Speaker 5: This is our best call. This is how we go

3099
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:55,480
Speaker 5: handle these situations. Situational football is an art and you

3100
02:16:55,560 --> 02:16:57,240
Speaker 5: have to spend a lot of time working on it,

3101
02:16:57,360 --> 02:16:59,240
Speaker 5: not only in the off season, but weekly. You have

3102
02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:02,000
Speaker 5: to remind players, here's the situation, just what we want

3103
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:02,800
Speaker 5: to do, decide we can.

3104
02:17:02,840 --> 02:17:05,320
Speaker 10: Go about Devil's in the details, as it were. And

3105
02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:07,520
Speaker 10: we've seen it so many times, especially in a league

3106
02:17:07,840 --> 02:17:10,600
Speaker 10: where so many games are decided by six or fewer points.

3107
02:17:10,640 --> 02:17:14,000
Speaker 10: We've run that stat I think every week on the

3108
02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:16,640
Speaker 10: show when we're talking near to triple digits in terms

3109
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:20,360
Speaker 10: of games being decided by seven or fewer and then

3110
02:17:20,440 --> 02:17:23,560
Speaker 10: you know, drill it down to six or fewer inside

3111
02:17:23,560 --> 02:17:27,680
Speaker 10: that touchdown run. But certainly, week after week we watched that.

3112
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:30,039
Speaker 10: So I'll make it about me for one more second

3113
02:17:30,040 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 10: before we get to the rest of those Thanksgiving Day games.

3114
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:35,920
Speaker 10: So and all of that, as you said, you know,

3115
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:40,120
Speaker 10: needing those meeting those responsibilities, play calling, all that other

3116
02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:48,760
Speaker 10: Thomas Brown and short sample size with Caleb Williams, they

3117
02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:54,519
Speaker 10: were terrible for a half. Defensively, they were lifeless offensively

3118
02:17:54,680 --> 02:17:56,520
Speaker 10: when they were on the field, there was there was

3119
02:17:56,640 --> 02:18:00,600
Speaker 10: nothing to be seen there. Okay, fine, E's elevator, but

3120
02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:04,640
Speaker 10: you're just now getting all of that camaraderie and you know,

3121
02:18:04,920 --> 02:18:08,400
Speaker 10: kind of cohesiveness there to where he's empowered a bit

3122
02:18:08,440 --> 02:18:11,400
Speaker 10: more after the firing of Waldron. Three weeks later, he's

3123
02:18:11,400 --> 02:18:15,480
Speaker 10: made the head coach. I'm a little curious in terms

3124
02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:18,560
Speaker 10: of that processing when you're still trying to get Caleb

3125
02:18:18,640 --> 02:18:20,520
Speaker 10: to where it's a sixty minute game.

3126
02:18:22,760 --> 02:18:25,720
Speaker 5: Look, I think a couple of things that probably stood out.

3127
02:18:25,760 --> 02:18:28,720
Speaker 5: They caught the eye of.

3128
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:31,640
Speaker 4: The people that made the decision. One is natural leadership skills.

3129
02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:35,040
Speaker 5: The way he stood in or he stepped in for

3130
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:39,560
Speaker 5: Saint Waldron and been completely different in terms of communications, style, leadership,

3131
02:18:39,600 --> 02:18:42,360
Speaker 5: ability to directness that he's had And you can see

3132
02:18:42,360 --> 02:18:45,760
Speaker 5: that in the press conferences. He's a very cut and dried,

3133
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:51,480
Speaker 5: black of white communicator. And for this team we talked

3134
02:18:51,480 --> 02:18:54,160
Speaker 5: about the players told I told you about the whining

3135
02:18:54,200 --> 02:18:57,000
Speaker 5: and pouting and all the other stuff, he appears to

3136
02:18:57,040 --> 02:18:59,480
Speaker 5: have the personality to do it. Here's the one thing

3137
02:18:59,480 --> 02:19:03,200
Speaker 5: that we know not this from having kids. As much

3138
02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:08,240
Speaker 5: as kids bristle at organization, structure and discipline, they also

3139
02:19:08,360 --> 02:19:10,879
Speaker 5: crave it. So what you're hearing from the locker room

3140
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:14,359
Speaker 5: are players asking for more accountability, higher.

3141
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:15,760
Speaker 4: Standards than those things right.

3142
02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:18,520
Speaker 5: It kind of runs counter to what you want from

3143
02:19:18,520 --> 02:19:21,119
Speaker 5: a quote unquote players coach, but Thomas Brown has given

3144
02:19:21,160 --> 02:19:23,160
Speaker 5: them that, and because it was so apparent when he

3145
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:27,840
Speaker 5: took over the offense, the entire team has gravitated towards

3146
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:31,959
Speaker 5: that forceful nature and approach. So he'll get a chance

3147
02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:33,880
Speaker 5: over four or five games to show what he can

3148
02:19:33,920 --> 02:19:36,520
Speaker 5: do as a leader. It's uncommon for the interim coach

3149
02:19:36,920 --> 02:19:39,680
Speaker 5: to have success as a long term coach, but it's

3150
02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:41,680
Speaker 5: a great opportunity for him to show the rest of

3151
02:19:41,680 --> 02:19:43,400
Speaker 5: the league what he can do in the leadership position.

3152
02:19:43,520 --> 02:19:46,440
Speaker 10: Still waiting for Ryan Poles to actually address anybody in

3153
02:19:46,720 --> 02:19:49,240
Speaker 10: a press conference scenario because I now get to ask

3154
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:52,600
Speaker 10: the question now that eberfluses out of the building and

3155
02:19:52,680 --> 02:19:56,240
Speaker 10: everything's been turned over, what happened Alan Williams, Come on,

3156
02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:00,560
Speaker 10: I want to know once and for all. Had two

3157
02:20:00,680 --> 02:20:03,560
Speaker 10: guys disappeared last year off that coaching staff that were

3158
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:04,600
Speaker 10: never heard from again?

3159
02:20:04,920 --> 02:20:06,440
Speaker 2: Why Bucky Brooks?

3160
02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:09,199
Speaker 4: Why, Hey, you may have to wait for date line.

3161
02:20:09,800 --> 02:20:13,480
Speaker 4: Then didn't do that. My man with divorce is going

3162
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:13,800
Speaker 4: out to the.

3163
02:20:13,760 --> 02:20:17,080
Speaker 5: Sun, said, And so they showed up at Alan Williams's office.

3164
02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:19,600
Speaker 4: Lead it out like it's gonna have to be something

3165
02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:22,840
Speaker 4: like that. I don't know. It is a mystery, is

3166
02:20:22,879 --> 02:20:24,279
Speaker 4: an epic mystery.

3167
02:20:24,040 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 10: All sorts of chaos, no question about it. Last one

3168
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:31,680
Speaker 10: before we bring in our guy, Dann Bayer. Packers thirty

3169
02:20:31,680 --> 02:20:36,600
Speaker 10: to seventeen winners over Miami the Cold. We'll talk about

3170
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:39,400
Speaker 10: it with Tua and all of that, as we always do.

3171
02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:43,480
Speaker 10: Because the numbers looks pretty. The performance was not. So

3172
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:46,280
Speaker 10: Folks that immediately just point to a box score. It's

3173
02:20:46,280 --> 02:20:49,000
Speaker 10: the old show me you didn't watch a game without

3174
02:20:49,040 --> 02:20:51,520
Speaker 10: showing me you didn't watch a game and maybe just

3175
02:20:51,560 --> 02:20:53,960
Speaker 10: had an extra, you know, trip to fan induced coma.

3176
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:56,640
Speaker 10: But Packers put up thirty points. They've got the sixth

3177
02:20:56,680 --> 02:21:01,800
Speaker 10: hardest schedule, remaining dates still against Detroit in Minnesota and

3178
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:06,360
Speaker 10: the Seattle Seahawks, and you've got the Bears and Saints

3179
02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:08,920
Speaker 10: on the other side of that dividing line courtesy of

3180
02:21:08,959 --> 02:21:10,920
Speaker 10: our good friends over at Tangathon.

3181
02:21:11,520 --> 02:21:13,400
Speaker 1: But are you buying what the Packers are selling?

3182
02:21:13,440 --> 02:21:16,920
Speaker 10: Back to back weeks shutting down run games and Jordan

3183
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:19,000
Speaker 10: loved taking better care of the football.

3184
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:20,840
Speaker 4: I'm actually buying it.

3185
02:21:21,040 --> 02:21:23,119
Speaker 5: I'm really positive about the package and the reason why

3186
02:21:24,040 --> 02:21:26,600
Speaker 5: Jeff Athley's been a really good pick up for them.

3187
02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:28,920
Speaker 5: They're doing a really good job of being aggressive but

3188
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:33,000
Speaker 5: being smart because they're playing aggressive coverage with their odds

3189
02:21:33,080 --> 02:21:35,760
Speaker 5: on the secondaries and odds on the quarterback. So that's

3190
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:38,120
Speaker 5: leading to more turnovers and big players. You've seen Zavid

3191
02:21:38,200 --> 02:21:40,920
Speaker 5: McKinney have a bunch of picks and interceptions because he's

3192
02:21:40,959 --> 02:21:43,040
Speaker 5: able to kind of get after it. They are a

3193
02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:45,840
Speaker 5: young team that is super talented. You see all the

3194
02:21:45,879 --> 02:21:48,760
Speaker 5: investment in the defense has paid off. How many first

3195
02:21:48,840 --> 02:21:50,320
Speaker 5: round picks do they have on that side of the.

3196
02:21:50,360 --> 02:21:51,120
Speaker 4: Ball every year?

3197
02:21:51,160 --> 02:21:53,680
Speaker 5: When we were crying for, oh, Aaron Rodsney's another weapon,

3198
02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:55,400
Speaker 5: They're like, yep, let's get a defender.

3199
02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:59,120
Speaker 4: Aaron Rosney's another pass coacher. Yep, let's get another defender.

3200
02:21:59,160 --> 02:22:01,200
Speaker 5: So now they have a really talented defense. They have

3201
02:22:01,240 --> 02:22:05,360
Speaker 5: a young and improving offense, and Josh Jacobs coming over

3202
02:22:05,800 --> 02:22:08,000
Speaker 5: has given them the balance that they need. They don't

3203
02:22:08,000 --> 02:22:10,240
Speaker 5: need Jordan Love to be the playmaker. They just need

3204
02:22:10,280 --> 02:22:13,120
Speaker 5: him to manage the game and occasionally make some plays.

3205
02:22:13,640 --> 02:22:15,800
Speaker 5: Jordan Love is actually the X factor because if he

3206
02:22:16,040 --> 02:22:17,879
Speaker 5: takes care of the ball, they win a ton of games.

3207
02:22:17,879 --> 02:22:19,879
Speaker 5: When he is kind of doing that high risk, high

3208
02:22:19,920 --> 02:22:21,080
Speaker 5: reward thing that he does.

3209
02:22:21,480 --> 02:22:23,240
Speaker 4: That's when they're vulnerable. This is a good team.

3210
02:22:23,240 --> 02:22:25,880
Speaker 5: They can challenge the Detroit Lions. It'll be interesting to

3211
02:22:25,879 --> 02:22:27,440
Speaker 5: see how this plays out between the Lines and the

3212
02:22:27,480 --> 02:22:28,320
Speaker 5: Packers on stretch.

3213
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:28,960
Speaker 1: There we go.

3214
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:32,879
Speaker 10: We got several games remaining. They're full slate, still ahead today,

3215
02:22:32,920 --> 02:22:35,720
Speaker 10: four games already in the books, but no bye weeks.

3216
02:22:35,879 --> 02:22:39,520
Speaker 10: We'll get back to buy coop by Apocalypse again next week.

3217
02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:43,240
Speaker 10: Say that really fastide times six teams on by next

3218
02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:46,320
Speaker 10: week for week fourteen. So as we get ready towards

3219
02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:48,840
Speaker 10: the fantasy playoffs and all that fun stuff. We've still

3220
02:22:48,879 --> 02:22:51,680
Speaker 10: got some shuffling to be done. But we've thrown a

3221
02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:53,520
Speaker 10: lot of flowers around. You just mentioned one of the

3222
02:22:53,600 --> 02:22:56,840
Speaker 10: names that's come up quite a bit. We'll debate chicken

3223
02:22:56,920 --> 02:22:58,760
Speaker 10: or egg kind of theory. But first let's go over

3224
02:22:58,800 --> 02:23:01,360
Speaker 10: to Dan Byer at the News Desk web partner on

3225
02:23:01,400 --> 02:23:03,720
Speaker 10: the Eye Watch of Flex podcast. I think I did

3226
02:23:03,720 --> 02:23:05,640
Speaker 10: a forty five minute rant on the Bears that you

3227
02:23:05,720 --> 02:23:07,080
Speaker 10: walked out of the room last week?

3228
02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:09,720
Speaker 1: What do I do for encore? How are you, buddy?

3229
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:11,880
Speaker 12: I am doing well. Great to have you back. Good

3230
02:23:11,879 --> 02:23:14,480
Speaker 12: to hear from you, Bucky as well. Getting said for

3231
02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:18,720
Speaker 12: a busy day in the National Football League despite four games.

3232
02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:21,360
Speaker 12: As Mike said already in the books, the night gap

3233
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:24,160
Speaker 12: is the Berman Bowl, the forty nine Ers against the Bills,

3234
02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:27,680
Speaker 12: the Super Bowl Chris Berman always wanted, never got, and

3235
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:30,199
Speaker 12: they got about three feet of snow in Buffalo.

3236
02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:31,879
Speaker 9: But the heavy stuff should be.

3237
02:23:31,800 --> 02:23:34,000
Speaker 12: Done by the time they kick it off tonight and

3238
02:23:34,040 --> 02:23:36,400
Speaker 12: brock Perty should be on the field. He's expected to

3239
02:23:36,440 --> 02:23:39,640
Speaker 12: start despite missing last week with his shoulder injury. Now,

3240
02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:41,400
Speaker 12: the other game of the day, you could say is

3241
02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:44,120
Speaker 12: the Eagles and Ravens at Philadelphia. Is not likely to

3242
02:23:44,160 --> 02:23:47,720
Speaker 12: have wide receiver Devonte Smith for that game. NFL Network

3243
02:23:47,760 --> 02:23:51,039
Speaker 12: says he'll likely miss the contest because of a hamstring strain,

3244
02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:54,640
Speaker 12: while Rokwan Smith back on the field for the for

3245
02:23:54,760 --> 02:23:57,720
Speaker 12: the Ravens excuse me as the linebacker returns from a

3246
02:23:57,720 --> 02:24:01,199
Speaker 12: hamstring injury that forced him to miss Night twin against

3247
02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:01,960
Speaker 12: the Chargers.

3248
02:24:02,240 --> 02:24:03,520
Speaker 9: Jets have the Seahawks today.

3249
02:24:03,560 --> 02:24:06,440
Speaker 12: Running back Priest Hall expected to go, while the Patriots

3250
02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:09,560
Speaker 12: we'll have de Mario Douglas against the Colts. Colts will

3251
02:24:09,560 --> 02:24:12,080
Speaker 12: have wide receiver Alec Pierce for the game and some

3252
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:16,480
Speaker 12: procedural moves made as the Chargers placed running back JK.

3253
02:24:16,640 --> 02:24:17,560
Speaker 9: Dobbins on Iri.

3254
02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:21,120
Speaker 12: Yesterday, Commanders did the same with Austin Eckler. Now, the

3255
02:24:21,200 --> 02:24:23,920
Speaker 12: NFL Network says the Chiefs could get Hollywood Brown in

3256
02:24:23,959 --> 02:24:26,840
Speaker 12: the lineup as soon as week sixteen or seventeen, as

3257
02:24:26,840 --> 02:24:30,080
Speaker 12: he's missed the entire season with a shoulder injury. All

3258
02:24:30,120 --> 02:24:34,160
Speaker 12: the college football conference championship games are set for next weekend,

3259
02:24:34,200 --> 02:24:36,400
Speaker 12: including in the Big Twelve, where it ended up having

3260
02:24:36,440 --> 02:24:39,920
Speaker 12: Iowa State taking on Arizona State. Some sad news from

3261
02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:42,680
Speaker 12: college basketball if you missed it on Saturday, legendary Saint

3262
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:45,520
Speaker 12: Johns men's basketball coach Lou Carnaseca.

3263
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:46,720
Speaker 9: Died at the age of ninety nine.

3264
02:24:46,879 --> 02:24:49,200
Speaker 12: Mike mentioned the soccer going on this morning in the

3265
02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:50,039
Speaker 12: Premier League.

3266
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:51,879
Speaker 9: Chelsea up on Aston Villa two nil.

3267
02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:56,039
Speaker 12: At the half, man You leads Everton two nil, while Tottenham,

3268
02:24:56,080 --> 02:24:58,840
Speaker 12: Hot Spur and Fulham are scoreless also at the half, guys,

3269
02:24:58,879 --> 02:24:59,160
Speaker 12: back to.

3270
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:01,800
Speaker 10: You appreciate it Dan Byron foxes where you find and

3271
02:25:01,879 --> 02:25:04,680
Speaker 10: find us on the Eyewatch Flex podcast and Dan will

3272
02:25:04,680 --> 02:25:06,800
Speaker 10: be back in the big chair as he gets you

3273
02:25:06,840 --> 02:25:07,960
Speaker 10: through the afternoon game.

3274
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:09,400
Speaker 1: Some heavyweight battles.

3275
02:25:09,440 --> 02:25:12,720
Speaker 10: A little bit later on, Dan, your Seahawks and the Jets,

3276
02:25:12,760 --> 02:25:13,320
Speaker 10: are you scared?

3277
02:25:15,320 --> 02:25:17,200
Speaker 12: I still don't know what to make of the Seahawks team.

3278
02:25:17,240 --> 02:25:19,440
Speaker 12: I've written them off, I've signed up, I've written them

3279
02:25:19,480 --> 02:25:22,320
Speaker 12: off the whole. You know, Geno Smith running them off,

3280
02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:24,720
Speaker 12: but he didn't right back. Maybe there's a bit of

3281
02:25:24,760 --> 02:25:29,080
Speaker 12: a you know, New York homecoming flavor for Geno Smith.

3282
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:29,560
Speaker 9: I don't know.

3283
02:25:29,600 --> 02:25:31,040
Speaker 1: We'll see revenge game.

3284
02:25:31,879 --> 02:25:37,199
Speaker 12: Yes, I actually have no idea how to feel about

3285
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:39,200
Speaker 12: today's game. The only thing that I know is that

3286
02:25:39,280 --> 02:25:42,000
Speaker 12: I don't think that the Jets really are invested. So

3287
02:25:42,040 --> 02:25:44,640
Speaker 12: that's the thing that the Seahawks have going for him.

3288
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:48,119
Speaker 10: Nice little help there, Yeah, little victories.

3289
02:25:48,120 --> 02:25:50,200
Speaker 12: I don't know the Seahawks can run the football, but

3290
02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:51,879
Speaker 12: I don't know if the Jets can stop the run.

3291
02:25:51,959 --> 02:25:52,640
Speaker 4: So we'll find out.

3292
02:25:53,440 --> 02:25:53,880
Speaker 1: There you go.

3293
02:25:53,959 --> 02:25:56,959
Speaker 10: We I would usually do a huge gorilla Mond soon

3294
02:25:57,040 --> 02:25:59,800
Speaker 10: kind of lead into that after that kind of intro.

3295
02:25:59,879 --> 02:26:02,720
Speaker 10: But two o'clock this afternoon Pacific time, Dan.

3296
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:05,320
Speaker 9: And Kerry Rhoades, that is true.

3297
02:26:05,360 --> 02:26:08,440
Speaker 10: There you go, three hours of goodness Red Zone Radio.

3298
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:10,920
Speaker 10: Dan here with us this morning, as we come to

3299
02:26:10,959 --> 02:26:14,560
Speaker 10: you from the Tirac dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios

3300
02:26:14,800 --> 02:26:18,440
Speaker 10: so alluded to and Dan did the solid and he

3301
02:26:18,520 --> 02:26:20,640
Speaker 10: served it up with a couple of the IR moves.

3302
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:21,200
Speaker 1: JK.

3303
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:25,240
Speaker 10: Dobbins one of the early heroes for this NFL season,

3304
02:26:25,959 --> 02:26:29,320
Speaker 10: Austin Eckler, who we've seen have some big moments and

3305
02:26:29,360 --> 02:26:32,560
Speaker 10: big games along the way for what was the upstart

3306
02:26:33,040 --> 02:26:36,640
Speaker 10: Washington Commander's squad, And we talked about the running back

3307
02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:39,600
Speaker 10: position as a whole. Right, everybody lamented, nobody's getting paid,

3308
02:26:39,600 --> 02:26:42,959
Speaker 10: blah blah blah. We get the off season fun of

3309
02:26:43,080 --> 02:26:45,199
Speaker 10: Shane with the Saquon Barkley.

3310
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:46,359
Speaker 1: Hey, go find your market.

3311
02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:48,840
Speaker 10: And now everybody's trying to tell me somehow the Giants

3312
02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 10: would have been good if Saquon stayed, which to me

3313
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:54,080
Speaker 10: is specious reasoning of it all. It would have been

3314
02:26:54,080 --> 02:26:56,200
Speaker 10: a feel good story of this guy stayed. Does it

3315
02:26:56,240 --> 02:26:56,879
Speaker 10: make you a winner?

3316
02:26:57,040 --> 02:26:57,120
Speaker 4: No?

3317
02:26:57,200 --> 02:27:01,039
Speaker 10: Your offensive line still stunk behind Thomas he and he

3318
02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:03,200
Speaker 10: got hurt. So what do you got? You still got

3319
02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:06,440
Speaker 10: a faulty infrastructure. It's a house of cards, Bucky Brooks.

3320
02:27:06,600 --> 02:27:09,280
Speaker 10: But all that to say, you know, you've got Barkley,

3321
02:27:09,280 --> 02:27:12,440
Speaker 10: You've got Derrick Henry, you've got Josh Jacobs. These guys

3322
02:27:12,480 --> 02:27:15,920
Speaker 10: all went to really good teams already. That seems to

3323
02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:17,560
Speaker 10: be getting lost in all this. And I want to

3324
02:27:17,560 --> 02:27:19,560
Speaker 10: throw the guys the flowers because you know me, I'm

3325
02:27:19,600 --> 02:27:23,080
Speaker 10: a Chicago kid. I'm a payton behind Matt Suey kind

3326
02:27:23,120 --> 02:27:26,160
Speaker 10: of guy. I'm a stiff arm guy into Neil Anderson.

3327
02:27:26,480 --> 02:27:28,560
Speaker 10: Run the ball three yard. We never had a quarterback,

3328
02:27:28,600 --> 02:27:30,280
Speaker 10: so it was three yards and a cloud of dust.

3329
02:27:30,560 --> 02:27:32,720
Speaker 10: You know, all the old video my dad would show me,

3330
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:35,600
Speaker 10: and especially once YouTube took off, Hey watch Kale Sayers.

3331
02:27:35,640 --> 02:27:38,959
Speaker 10: He's the greatest player ever. Unfortunately, those pesky injuries. All

3332
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:42,280
Speaker 10: of that to say, like, I think we're as much

3333
02:27:42,280 --> 02:27:44,080
Speaker 10: as I want to give these guys their flowers, Like

3334
02:27:44,600 --> 02:27:48,800
Speaker 10: those teams were built for success, right, even the Bengals

3335
02:27:49,400 --> 02:27:52,760
Speaker 10: Joe Mixon leaves goes to Houston Chase Brown and before

3336
02:27:52,760 --> 02:27:54,840
Speaker 10: he got hurt, Zach Moss were moving the ball. They

3337
02:27:54,879 --> 02:27:56,400
Speaker 10: just can't play a lick of defense.

3338
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:02,360
Speaker 5: No, they can't, not a single lick. I would say this,

3339
02:28:02,760 --> 02:28:05,039
Speaker 5: you're talking about the running backs and them going to

3340
02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:07,320
Speaker 5: good teams. I think that is the thing that people

3341
02:28:07,400 --> 02:28:10,320
Speaker 5: are realizing, where that team builders are realizing, you know,

3342
02:28:10,560 --> 02:28:13,240
Speaker 5: those years where we devalued the running back and we

3343
02:28:14,200 --> 02:28:16,680
Speaker 5: kind of diminish their importance. We're seeing that you have

3344
02:28:16,760 --> 02:28:19,120
Speaker 5: to have balance to be able to be successful. No

3345
02:28:19,120 --> 02:28:22,080
Speaker 5: matter how good your quarterback is, he benefits from having

3346
02:28:22,160 --> 02:28:26,920
Speaker 5: a solid runner in the backfield. And with Josh Jacobs

3347
02:28:26,959 --> 02:28:30,400
Speaker 5: and Saquon and Derrick Henry going to good teams and

3348
02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:34,720
Speaker 5: elevating those teams, maybe it changes the situation a little bit.

3349
02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:37,760
Speaker 5: We're just kind of see what it looks like, but

3350
02:28:37,959 --> 02:28:41,360
Speaker 5: it certainly is something that's interesting to track and follow

3351
02:28:41,360 --> 02:28:42,720
Speaker 5: as we get into the draft season.

3352
02:28:43,000 --> 02:28:43,520
Speaker 1: Just a lot of it.

3353
02:28:43,600 --> 02:28:46,640
Speaker 10: You know, you look at what Gent's done for Boise

3354
02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:49,080
Speaker 10: State and making a lot of noise, and we talk

3355
02:28:49,120 --> 02:28:52,959
Speaker 10: about Heisman and all the awards season whatever and piling

3356
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:54,640
Speaker 10: up numbers, and we've gotten to see him on the

3357
02:28:54,640 --> 02:28:57,840
Speaker 10: big stage a couple of times standalone games, So you know,

3358
02:28:57,879 --> 02:29:01,200
Speaker 10: that's good for the branding and recognizing. You know, at

3359
02:29:01,240 --> 02:29:03,520
Speaker 10: the collegiate level, we've got some next guys coming, so

3360
02:29:03,600 --> 02:29:06,440
Speaker 10: for draft season, yeah, certainly gonna be interesting to see

3361
02:29:06,440 --> 02:29:10,320
Speaker 10: because remember when Sakuon Barkley was picked second overall in

3362
02:29:10,360 --> 02:29:13,280
Speaker 10: that quarterback heavy class of twenty eighteen. You know, a

3363
02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:16,080
Speaker 10: lot of handwringing got done even at that point that

3364
02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:19,800
Speaker 10: the Giants didn't take the right guy. Right, that's funny.

3365
02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:23,080
Speaker 10: How short a time, right, memory and some injuries and

3366
02:29:23,120 --> 02:29:26,200
Speaker 10: everything else. But then the time with Daniel Jones, like

3367
02:29:26,280 --> 02:29:28,400
Speaker 10: see see that was our guy. I'm like you guys

3368
02:29:28,440 --> 02:29:31,960
Speaker 10: didn't want him when he was drafted. You wanted every

3369
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:36,360
Speaker 10: other quarterback that came after, whether it was what Sam

3370
02:29:36,440 --> 02:29:38,640
Speaker 10: Darnold all on down the line, right, because it went

3371
02:29:38,680 --> 02:29:42,840
Speaker 10: baker than Barkley. But all of that to say, you know,

3372
02:29:42,879 --> 02:29:46,920
Speaker 10: we look at all these different scenarios where yes, the

3373
02:29:47,320 --> 02:29:50,039
Speaker 10: run games there, but you know, some flowers also to

3374
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:53,360
Speaker 10: the infrastructure. This is my way to sideswipe the Bears again,

3375
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:59,400
Speaker 10: is the fact that for the Ravens, Ronnie Stanley's healthy. Okay,

3376
02:29:59,440 --> 02:30:02,080
Speaker 10: we talk v we talk whatever else. That guy makes

3377
02:30:02,120 --> 02:30:04,080
Speaker 10: life a lot easier for everybody if he's on the

3378
02:30:04,080 --> 02:30:06,800
Speaker 10: field and he has not been healthy for the last

3379
02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:09,680
Speaker 10: couple of years. You know, the health and cohesiveness of

3380
02:30:09,720 --> 02:30:12,400
Speaker 10: these offensive lines we talk about in Philly, right, it's

3381
02:30:12,440 --> 02:30:14,960
Speaker 10: the old Sharks thing. You know, one guy goes down,

3382
02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:17,160
Speaker 10: they seem to have one that pops up after the

3383
02:30:17,200 --> 02:30:18,320
Speaker 10: next bite.

3384
02:30:19,959 --> 02:30:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I mean that's the thing.

3385
02:30:21,800 --> 02:30:23,840
Speaker 5: And I would say this about the Phildelphigans and as

3386
02:30:23,879 --> 02:30:26,279
Speaker 5: we look at them, because they're kind of the model,

3387
02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:29,200
Speaker 5: the Philadelphiagans and the Detroit Lines of the model for

3388
02:30:29,280 --> 02:30:30,920
Speaker 5: how you build your team. I would say, from a

3389
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:34,680
Speaker 5: roster construction standpoint, the talent that you have and all

3390
02:30:34,720 --> 02:30:37,400
Speaker 5: of that, they certainly have done a really good job

3391
02:30:37,440 --> 02:30:39,920
Speaker 5: investing in the offensive and defensive lines. They have the

3392
02:30:39,959 --> 02:30:45,280
Speaker 5: skill positions set where they can play any style. I

3393
02:30:45,520 --> 02:30:47,600
Speaker 5: will frequently kind of tell out the importance of being

3394
02:30:47,640 --> 02:30:49,880
Speaker 5: able to play with force or finesse, being able to

3395
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:51,520
Speaker 5: run it when you want to run it, how you

3396
02:30:51,520 --> 02:30:53,959
Speaker 5: want to run it, when everyone in the building knows

3397
02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:56,520
Speaker 5: that you have to run it. But then the finesse

3398
02:30:56,560 --> 02:30:58,560
Speaker 5: part is being able to throw it when people stack

3399
02:30:58,640 --> 02:31:01,640
Speaker 5: up to stop that. The great teams have the ability

3400
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:04,959
Speaker 5: to do both because each game is its own kind

3401
02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:06,160
Speaker 5: of snowflake, and so you kind of.

3402
02:31:06,080 --> 02:31:07,959
Speaker 4: Have to figure out what you need to do.

3403
02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:09,800
Speaker 5: To win that game, and you have to have the

3404
02:31:09,879 --> 02:31:12,000
Speaker 5: balance and the diversity to be able to do it.

3405
02:31:12,280 --> 02:31:14,600
Speaker 5: Those teams are well constructed, a Phillies well constructed to

3406
02:31:14,600 --> 02:31:17,520
Speaker 5: be able to do that, and so it'd be funny

3407
02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:20,560
Speaker 5: to watch it continue to play out, and even your team,

3408
02:31:20,879 --> 02:31:23,320
Speaker 5: the Chicago Bears, as much as we loved all the

3409
02:31:23,320 --> 02:31:26,560
Speaker 5: skills and playmakers, the Bears won't re emerge as to

3410
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:29,120
Speaker 5: Bears until they invest in the front line. They're not

3411
02:31:29,520 --> 02:31:32,920
Speaker 5: dominant or talented enough in the front line to consistently win,

3412
02:31:32,959 --> 02:31:34,119
Speaker 5: and so that's a huge issue.

3413
02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:36,240
Speaker 10: He's Bucky Brooks at Bucket Brooks where you find them

3414
02:31:36,240 --> 02:31:38,520
Speaker 10: on Twitter, find me over at Swollen Dome. Podcasts will

3415
02:31:38,560 --> 02:31:41,040
Speaker 10: go up or we're done, Shale get that up for you.

3416
02:31:41,040 --> 02:31:43,560
Speaker 10: You can get it wherever you download your audio. As

3417
02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:46,600
Speaker 10: we lead you into Countdown to kick Off presented by

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Speaker 10: bet MGM, coming up in twenty minutes. But first, we

3419
02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:50,960
Speaker 10: got a couple other games we want to circle on

3420
02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:54,280
Speaker 10: the calendar for today. There's one that I think is

3421
02:31:54,320 --> 02:31:58,400
Speaker 10: flying a little bit under the radar with some huge implications.

3422
02:31:58,440 --> 02:32:01,160
Speaker 10: We'll do that as we continue. It's Football Sunday on

3423
02:32:01,280 --> 02:32:05,000
Speaker 10: Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radios.

3424
02:32:05,040 --> 02:32:08,200
Speaker 10: Fox Football Sunday. Mike Carmen, Bucky Brooks with you here.

3425
02:32:08,280 --> 02:32:12,119
Speaker 10: Coming up in about twelve minutes from now. It's Countdown

3426
02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:14,560
Speaker 10: to Kickoff presented by BETMGM. The guys will have you

3427
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3428
02:32:18,800 --> 02:32:21,600
Speaker 10: four games already in the book, but still plenty of wagers,

3429
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:25,519
Speaker 10: plenty of props, plenty of things to clean, some insights

3430
02:32:25,560 --> 02:32:27,560
Speaker 10: and go and beat the smartest man or a woman

3431
02:32:28,720 --> 02:32:31,440
Speaker 10: well in your football gathering, the bar, wherever you may be.

3432
02:32:31,560 --> 02:32:34,160
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3433
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:38,000
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3434
02:32:38,080 --> 02:32:39,920
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3435
02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:44,280
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3436
02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:46,760
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3437
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02:32:53,280 --> 02:32:55,920
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3440
02:32:55,959 --> 02:32:59,320
Speaker 10: app away as your holiday gift. I'm telling you, just

3441
02:32:59,320 --> 02:33:02,160
Speaker 10: a little bit of your time, a little creativity to

3442
02:33:02,200 --> 02:33:04,280
Speaker 10: get some nice colored pencils and a mark or make

3443
02:33:04,280 --> 02:33:04,680
Speaker 10: a card.

3444
02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:08,280
Speaker 1: Who doesn't like a nice homemade card, Bucky Brooks, I.

3445
02:33:08,240 --> 02:33:10,080
Speaker 4: Mean, everybody loves the homemaker, right right.

3446
02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:12,000
Speaker 10: I mean, you don't even get people to give you

3447
02:33:12,000 --> 02:33:15,400
Speaker 10: the half assed effort of the photo card anymore.

3448
02:33:15,920 --> 02:33:17,560
Speaker 1: That used to be in vote. Now you just get

3449
02:33:17,560 --> 02:33:21,680
Speaker 1: an email. Here you go. We sat around, we were

3450
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:24,480
Speaker 1: watching a movie, We took a picture, and then we

3451
02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:25,360
Speaker 1: mass sent this out.

3452
02:33:25,400 --> 02:33:28,760
Speaker 10: It's not even personalized anymore. But that's the old man

3453
02:33:28,840 --> 02:33:31,120
Speaker 10: talking in me. As we get ready for a full

3454
02:33:31,200 --> 02:33:35,600
Speaker 10: slate later on today. The snow game this evening has

3455
02:33:35,640 --> 02:33:39,800
Speaker 10: got everybody's wrapped attention, and deservedly so. San Francisco, Buffalo,

3456
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:44,439
Speaker 10: you got Philadelphia Baltimore, two heavyweight matchups. How about Arizona

3457
02:33:44,480 --> 02:33:47,520
Speaker 10: and Minnesota to spotlight that game for a moment, Bucky,

3458
02:33:47,520 --> 02:33:49,760
Speaker 10: I know you and Andy as you were going through

3459
02:33:49,800 --> 02:33:53,000
Speaker 10: some of the games earlier, did a little pass on

3460
02:33:53,040 --> 02:33:56,879
Speaker 10: this one. Massive game on both sides, not only for

3461
02:33:56,920 --> 02:33:59,280
Speaker 10: what's on the field, but also in the coaches box,

3462
02:33:59,320 --> 02:34:02,360
Speaker 10: particularly from Minnesota. You know, Brian Flora is a guy

3463
02:34:02,440 --> 02:34:06,480
Speaker 10: whose name circles quite a bit the quarterback position in Minnesota.

3464
02:34:06,480 --> 02:34:11,240
Speaker 10: Folks still wondering about Sam Darnold, mind you, JJ McCarthy

3465
02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:14,160
Speaker 10: had a second knee surgery, so keeping an eye on

3466
02:34:14,200 --> 02:34:18,840
Speaker 10: that and his rehabilitation this offseason. But for Arizona, you know,

3467
02:34:18,920 --> 02:34:21,640
Speaker 10: when we had Dan Byer, you know, with the news update,

3468
02:34:21,640 --> 02:34:25,480
Speaker 10: and I asked about Seattle and the Jets, and he said,

3469
02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:27,320
Speaker 10: I just don't know what this team is. How often

3470
02:34:27,320 --> 02:34:29,320
Speaker 10: have we said that in the National Football League, where

3471
02:34:29,360 --> 02:34:31,280
Speaker 10: there's still a number of teams like, I don't know

3472
02:34:31,280 --> 02:34:34,039
Speaker 10: what they are? And the Cardinals feel very much like

3473
02:34:34,040 --> 02:34:34,959
Speaker 10: they're in that bucket.

3474
02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:39,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Cardinals definitely feel like that. Right.

3475
02:34:39,200 --> 02:34:42,960
Speaker 10: Congratulations to James Cotter though the two year extension he got.

3476
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:46,800
Speaker 5: I mean, how about how about that? How about him

3477
02:34:46,840 --> 02:34:51,720
Speaker 5: getting the bagay? Like, just continue to get it like

3478
02:34:52,120 --> 02:34:53,720
Speaker 5: and a guy who was viewed as kind of like

3479
02:34:53,760 --> 02:34:56,240
Speaker 5: a throwaway when it came to some of that, right.

3480
02:34:56,240 --> 02:34:58,680
Speaker 10: Well, especially going into this year, it was all right,

3481
02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:00,960
Speaker 10: is he gonna fall off the cliff? They drafted Trey

3482
02:35:01,000 --> 02:35:02,199
Speaker 10: Benson and here you go.

3483
02:35:03,879 --> 02:35:06,080
Speaker 4: And then they're able to get it done, and so

3484
02:35:06,120 --> 02:35:09,000
Speaker 4: you like that part of it. Yeah, But Cardinos are interesting.

3485
02:35:09,560 --> 02:35:12,160
Speaker 5: They're finding a way to play at a level that

3486
02:35:12,200 --> 02:35:16,480
Speaker 5: you certainly appreciate. They're they're making it happen, and they

3487
02:35:16,600 --> 02:35:17,119
Speaker 5: play hard.

3488
02:35:17,120 --> 02:35:18,959
Speaker 4: That always gives.

3489
02:35:18,680 --> 02:35:23,920
Speaker 5: Them a chance to be successful when it comes to it. So, yeah, look,

3490
02:35:23,959 --> 02:35:25,879
Speaker 5: it's good to see. It's good to see them kind

3491
02:35:25,879 --> 02:35:26,400
Speaker 5: of play that way.

3492
02:35:26,480 --> 02:35:30,720
Speaker 10: Bottom ten schedule left on the slate. They've still got

3493
02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:35,680
Speaker 10: dates with the Patriots and Panthers and the sinking forty

3494
02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:39,360
Speaker 10: nine ers and whatever. The Rams are becoming, because again

3495
02:35:40,120 --> 02:35:43,720
Speaker 10: six and six is the standard in division right now,

3496
02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:47,360
Speaker 10: and tough matchups. Look because look, Seattle's still going on

3497
02:35:47,400 --> 02:35:49,760
Speaker 10: the road to the Jets, so we always wonder about,

3498
02:35:49,840 --> 02:35:52,480
Speaker 10: you know, the travel in those games or whatever. You

3499
02:35:52,560 --> 02:35:54,879
Speaker 10: look at San Francisco having to go on the road

3500
02:35:54,879 --> 02:35:57,560
Speaker 10: against the Buffalo squad off of bye week and with

3501
02:35:57,640 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 10: the winning streak of their own party coming back after

3502
02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:03,400
Speaker 10: missing some time, and we talked about all of the

3503
02:36:03,480 --> 02:36:08,039
Speaker 10: problems with that roster last hour on the program. The

3504
02:36:08,120 --> 02:36:12,360
Speaker 10: Rams good not great would be the kind way to

3505
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:14,640
Speaker 10: say it. I think, you know, with what Sean McVay

3506
02:36:14,640 --> 02:36:17,880
Speaker 10: has got working there. So all of that to say,

3507
02:36:17,959 --> 02:36:22,840
Speaker 10: in division, you know, it's a puncher's chance to run through.

3508
02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:25,080
Speaker 10: Just got to find a little bit of consistent football

3509
02:36:25,120 --> 02:36:29,000
Speaker 10: down the stretch. But let's go to another division. You've

3510
02:36:29,000 --> 02:36:34,800
Speaker 10: got Atlanta playing the Chargers, Tampa Bay Carolina against Carolina

3511
02:36:34,879 --> 02:36:37,920
Speaker 10: squad that's playing better football of late road game five

3512
02:36:37,959 --> 02:36:40,680
Speaker 10: and a half point favorites are the Buccaneers. Chargers in

3513
02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:42,039
Speaker 10: narrow one point favorite No.

3514
02:36:42,120 --> 02:36:42,360
Speaker 1: JK.

3515
02:36:42,480 --> 02:36:45,600
Speaker 10: Dobbins goes to the ir and Atlanta. But the Tampa

3516
02:36:45,640 --> 02:36:48,520
Speaker 10: Atlanta race these final couple of weeks will be fascinating too,

3517
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:52,480
Speaker 10: Captain Kirk and Baker Mayfield. Mayfield obviously and everybody's minds

3518
02:36:52,480 --> 02:36:55,520
Speaker 10: and hearts, for one being the originator of all the

3519
02:36:55,560 --> 02:36:58,880
Speaker 10: planting the flag stuff, but two also that lawsuit against

3520
02:36:58,920 --> 02:37:01,040
Speaker 10: his dad and the cup or whatever is really a

3521
02:37:01,040 --> 02:37:03,120
Speaker 10: fascinating thing that I want to do a deep dive on.

3522
02:37:03,640 --> 02:37:05,720
Speaker 10: I won't do it on the radio here, because you know,

3523
02:37:05,800 --> 02:37:09,480
Speaker 10: business stuff in general bores people, lawsuits even more so.

3524
02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:12,600
Speaker 10: But a curious case there. Who do you take in

3525
02:37:12,600 --> 02:37:13,080
Speaker 10: this stretch?

3526
02:37:13,200 --> 02:37:16,840
Speaker 1: Runo.

3527
02:37:17,400 --> 02:37:20,080
Speaker 5: Look, I think Tampa is positioned to do it just

3528
02:37:20,120 --> 02:37:23,840
Speaker 5: because defensively they can create chaos and Baker Mayfield, like,

3529
02:37:23,879 --> 02:37:26,040
Speaker 5: it's funny you take away some of the weapons, but

3530
02:37:26,080 --> 02:37:28,920
Speaker 5: they continue to be explosive and dynamic in those things.

3531
02:37:30,560 --> 02:37:32,560
Speaker 5: I'm a good way down. Look, I think they can

3532
02:37:32,680 --> 02:37:34,720
Speaker 5: get it done. He is good enough, he's good enough.

3533
02:37:34,760 --> 02:37:36,600
Speaker 5: He kind of fits the system. So let's go to

3534
02:37:36,640 --> 02:37:37,720
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield in that crew.

3535
02:37:37,800 --> 02:37:38,200
Speaker 1: All right?

3536
02:37:38,280 --> 02:37:41,480
Speaker 10: So yeah, the one thing in that secondary you can

3537
02:37:41,520 --> 02:37:43,440
Speaker 10: make some play. So maybe a little Bryce Young Price

3538
02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:48,120
Speaker 10: action in terms of your daily fantasy running amuck kind

3539
02:37:48,120 --> 02:37:51,120
Speaker 10: of thing. But you know you've got the Jaguars in

3540
02:37:51,160 --> 02:37:54,000
Speaker 10: Houston a little bit later on here, Bucky, be remiss

3541
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:55,920
Speaker 10: if we didn't give it a minute for what Houston's

3542
02:37:55,959 --> 02:37:59,320
Speaker 10: going through right now. What have you seen differently on

3543
02:37:59,360 --> 02:38:00,880
Speaker 10: their tape the last couple of weeks.

3544
02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:05,920
Speaker 5: I will say this about the Texans one office line

3545
02:38:05,920 --> 02:38:10,840
Speaker 5: has been an issue. The chemistry, the inconsistent connection between C. J.

3546
02:38:10,920 --> 02:38:13,520
Speaker 4: Stroud and the playmakers certainly hurt hurts.

3547
02:38:14,600 --> 02:38:17,119
Speaker 5: The play called them Bobby slowick like getting a lot

3548
02:38:17,120 --> 02:38:19,840
Speaker 5: of criticism. People have seemingly found a way to slow

3549
02:38:19,959 --> 02:38:22,360
Speaker 5: them down in the second half. But the talent is

3550
02:38:22,400 --> 02:38:25,560
Speaker 5: certainly there. He's in a bit of a sophomore slump,

3551
02:38:25,600 --> 02:38:28,279
Speaker 5: but it's just the protection. If you hit the quarterback,

3552
02:38:28,320 --> 02:38:30,480
Speaker 5: he changes and he's been hit too much. And so

3553
02:38:30,680 --> 02:38:33,360
Speaker 5: that with the chemistry, has made them not as potent

3554
02:38:33,360 --> 02:38:34,240
Speaker 5: as we thought they would be.

3555
02:38:34,320 --> 02:38:37,160
Speaker 10: See that was my roundabout way of just selling folks

3556
02:38:37,200 --> 02:38:42,800
Speaker 10: on drafting offensive lineman again, make your line great, everything

3557
02:38:42,840 --> 02:38:43,600
Speaker 10: else will flow.

3558
02:38:44,959 --> 02:38:47,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's true though, what we talk about with.

3559
02:38:47,480 --> 02:38:50,760
Speaker 10: These great, great teams, right You've got some cohesiveiss in

3560
02:38:50,800 --> 02:38:53,879
Speaker 10: those front five or on the other side of the ball. Right,

3561
02:38:53,920 --> 02:38:56,560
Speaker 10: we're talking with Chris Purfett. You know his Lions. Now,

3562
02:38:57,240 --> 02:38:59,480
Speaker 10: even if you're the most ardent Lions fan, you got

3563
02:38:59,480 --> 02:39:02,119
Speaker 10: to go and find an extra scorecard to figure out

3564
02:39:02,120 --> 02:39:04,039
Speaker 10: who the hell is running around the field for you.

3565
02:39:04,200 --> 02:39:06,360
Speaker 10: So all of that to say, the final two weeks

3566
02:39:06,400 --> 02:39:09,880
Speaker 10: are going to be interesting here in the National Football League. Bucky,

3567
02:39:10,240 --> 02:39:13,160
Speaker 10: you have a great call today, a great couple hours

3568
02:39:13,160 --> 02:39:15,400
Speaker 10: with you as always here on the radio at Bucky

3569
02:39:15,400 --> 02:39:17,680
Speaker 10: Brooks where you find him, you find me over at

3570
02:39:17,720 --> 02:39:18,400
Speaker 10: Swollen Done.

3571
02:39:18,400 --> 02:39:21,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for the team to Chris, to Shay to Dan.

3572
02:39:21,480 --> 02:39:22,840
Speaker 1: Countdown to kick off is next.