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Speaker 2: How's it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2: And on today's show, we have a special guest.
Speaker 3: Once again, don't want to waste any of the time
Speaker 3: here on the podcast. Let's go ahead and kick this
Speaker 3: thing off with Kyle Krabs for part two of our
Speaker 3: draft extravaganza with Kyle from Lockdown Dolphins from the Baptist
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Speaker 2: This is the Drivetime Podcast.
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Speaker 3: First, please give a warm welcome to my guest today,
Speaker 3: Kyle Crabs, as promised back for a second episode with
Speaker 3: Lockdown Dolphins. Kyle Crabs if I'm the godfather of the
Speaker 3: Lockdown Dolphins podcast.
Speaker 2: What does that make you? What's the what's the name
Speaker 2: for the second?
Speaker 1: Your son?
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: I think you're two years younger than me. So, uh yeah,
Speaker 3: we just tried. I just turned thirty four, so I'm
Speaker 3: good telling myself here a little bit. Hey, how's dad
Speaker 3: life going?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's great.
Speaker 3: We want what we want until we actually get it,
Speaker 3: and then we don't want anymore. I made the joke
Speaker 3: I've never appreciated mowing my lawn before until that exact
Speaker 3: scenario happened. And then I said, I'm gonna step outside
Speaker 3: and cut the grass for forty minutes and just listen.
Speaker 1: To the werner of the lawnmower and call it a day.
Speaker 1: That's the most. Now I'm a big long guy, big
Speaker 1: long guy now.
Speaker 3: Getting thosig to cut the grass just to get a
Speaker 3: break from some noise. I've done it with headphones a
Speaker 3: few times, you know, the little guys crying too much,
Speaker 3: and most like, all right, she you know, my wife's
Speaker 3: working on it. I'm gonna sit here and just not
Speaker 3: listening to the cry for just five minutes. Five minutes
Speaker 3: of a break. I've been really enjoying that walk from
Speaker 3: the back right seat of the car to the driver's side.
Speaker 3: It's about five seconds, but it's five seconds quietness. Yep,
Speaker 3: you're gonna know that's like you're a student having two
Speaker 3: on the way as well. So yeah, man, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's a lot, but I always say it's as challenging
Speaker 3: as just rewarding, like everything in life. So it's being
Speaker 3: a dad's the best thing ever, both of us in
Speaker 3: the same boat. There, two young kids are one one
Speaker 3: for you, one coming right one one and a half,
Speaker 3: I think technically is how it'd be classified.
Speaker 1: So be here for football season.
Speaker 3: There you go, perfect, and that's good, good luck charm
Speaker 3: for the Dolphins hopefully this year. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 3: jump right back into the draft aspect of us, which
Speaker 3: is ultimately the reason we have you on. But you are,
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, a team building type of guy, so
Speaker 3: I wanted to get your take on the Dolphins as
Speaker 3: a whole. In the previous episode. If you have not
Speaker 3: checked out part one, go back and look at it.
Speaker 3: We kind of primed you for this episode heading into
Speaker 3: the draft, and I talked about it on the previous
Speaker 3: episode that I was going to tease a question about
Speaker 3: the draft, and I'm gonna go ahead and ask it
Speaker 3: to you right now, because we've covered the off season,
Speaker 3: we covered what the roster kind of looks like and
Speaker 3: where the Dolphins look heading into training camp, or I
Speaker 3: should say OTA's at this point, but I want to
Speaker 3: get your bird's eye view of where the roster with
Speaker 3: a team is heading into the draft. Like if you
Speaker 3: could put yourself in Chris Greer's chair and you know
Speaker 3: you have these four picks, you know you have the
Speaker 3: resources you have, you know you have the roster you have,
Speaker 3: you know you have the coaching staff you have, on
Speaker 3: and on and on. What are you trying to get
Speaker 3: accomplished this weekend with your four picks? With all the resources,
Speaker 3: Like I said, I mean it could be traded up,
Speaker 3: could be traded down, could be adding. Like there's it's
Speaker 3: not just the draft, right, Like it's more team building.
Speaker 3: What are you hoping to get accomplished here over the weekend?
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping to get a player at fifty one,
Speaker 3: assuming that they stay at fifty one and make a
Speaker 3: selection there, I'm hoping to get a player that's going
Speaker 3: to play a meaningful amount of snats for my team
Speaker 3: this year. I think that that's the one thing where
Speaker 3: that feel it feels like the one opportunity to potentially
Speaker 3: get a needle mover for your team, whether that's a
Speaker 3: running back that's going to play five hundred snaps for you,
Speaker 3: whether that is a tight end that's going to be
Speaker 3: your de facto inline blocker type. I know durham smythe
Speaker 3: they really like and they extended this offseason, but some
Speaker 3: of Durham's best stuff has been on split flow inside
Speaker 3: zon as compared to truly being an inline player and
Speaker 3: working the A level of the defense. Is it a linebacker,
Speaker 3: is it an interior defensive lineman who can rush the pass,
Speaker 3: or is it an offensive tackle that gives you further
Speaker 3: flexibility to be able to get your best combination of
Speaker 3: five guys out there. You know that for me is
Speaker 3: the number one objective is I don't want to force
Speaker 3: one position to just say I need to. And Chris
Speaker 3: Kreer said that himself last week. When you draft primarily
Speaker 3: for your needs, when you get yourself in trouble, right,
Speaker 3: so you kind of have your defined areas and then
Speaker 3: when you come on the clock, you ask yourself, okay,
Speaker 3: what's the best available value for a player that can
Speaker 3: control to this ruster right now? And if they have
Speaker 3: a specific player for a player at a position who's
Speaker 3: not a player that or a position that we typically
Speaker 3: associate as being a need for the team, so be it.
Speaker 3: If you've got a very specific vision and you think
Speaker 3: it's a home run draft that player too, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be I gonna have a very difficult time finding a
Speaker 3: reason to be upset about the Dolphins drafting a player
Speaker 3: that they have a vision for that has a pathway
Speaker 3: to getting on the field. I mean, I love that because,
Speaker 3: like I did my Friday podcast where I talked about
Speaker 3: the guys that I like the most in this year's draft,
Speaker 3: and I had a receiver in there. I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: waiting for the backlash of like, while you put a
Speaker 3: receiver on there, Travis, we have plenty of receivers, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we do.
Speaker 2: But like, and this is a question maybe for for like.
Speaker 3: You and Joe to kind of tackle about the idea
Speaker 3: of drafting a player or how you would stack a
Speaker 3: player who is at a position of a greater need
Speaker 3: versus adding to a strength, which to me is a
Speaker 3: very underrated value. Maybe in the lexicon of the of fans. Right,
Speaker 3: maybe the league feels more in the way I do
Speaker 3: about this. Maybe not, But I think strengthening a strength,
Speaker 3: it's pretty great. Like that's a good approach to have.
Speaker 3: How do you balance that if you know, just from
Speaker 3: a team building standpoint about like, if you have two
Speaker 3: players that are close, does the need necessarily push one
Speaker 3: player over the other or is it just like whatever
Speaker 3: the player, which are players higher?
Speaker 2: We want that one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think generally speaking, there's different I think
Speaker 3: you see a split on the thoughts of this across
Speaker 3: the league as well. You know John Robinson who used
Speaker 3: to be the gym of the Titans. He was notorious
Speaker 3: for just he just exclusively drafting me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: The New Orleans Saints would say, we don't care how
Speaker 3: many picks we have. We've got four guys that we want.
Speaker 3: We're going to trade up for all of them, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna get them. And because those are the players,
Speaker 3: we have the vision four and that's it, and we
Speaker 3: don't care if we pick any of the player. We
Speaker 3: don't care if we don't pick after eighty We're going
Speaker 3: to send everything and go get the three or four
Speaker 3: guys that we definitively think that we can get. The
Speaker 3: Patriots stack the board and they say, okay, we've got
Speaker 3: fifty three roster spots. If you're not better than somebody
Speaker 3: in the specific one of the fifty three roster spots
Speaker 3: that we have in the role that they fill in
Speaker 3: the team, you're not on the draft board. Like there's
Speaker 3: there's all these different ways to do it. As far
Speaker 3: as strengthening is strength, I think the more ways that
Speaker 3: you the more riddles that you can pose to opposing teams.
Speaker 3: However you want to do that, you know, if you
Speaker 3: want that to be hey, we got man demand beaters
Speaker 3: everywhere across the board, or it's well, if you want
Speaker 3: to stop us in this way, then we have this
Speaker 3: player who's a problem as the CounterPunch to that. There's
Speaker 3: endless ways to do it, and that's why I love
Speaker 3: team building and the strategy that's involved. There is no
Speaker 3: wrong answer. But you have seen the teams that really
Speaker 3: buy in on this is who we are, this is
Speaker 3: our identity, this is our strength. We're going to do
Speaker 3: this and we're going to make sure that if attrition
Speaker 3: hits our roster, we are still going to be in
Speaker 3: a position to be able to do this, because that's
Speaker 3: how we want to beat two week in and week out.
Speaker 3: That's why I think the team building aspect of football
Speaker 3: is so much better than every other sport in which
Speaker 3: you know, football is better than ever other sport in
Speaker 3: so many ways. But that's one of the main ones
Speaker 3: for me, because I don't know if you had this
Speaker 3: back in high school, like Decca, that the virtual store
Speaker 3: game where you would like try, yes, find the way
Speaker 3: to properly create your store to get the best sales. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was absolutely terrible at that game, and I didn't
Speaker 3: understand why we were doing it. Like I had a
Speaker 3: different class where we'd like built fancy baseball teams and
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to do that.
Speaker 2: I don't wanted this dec of store nonsense.
Speaker 3: But it kind of reminds me of that because like,
Speaker 3: you have a finite amount of resources, everybody starts on
Speaker 3: the same level, and then you have your thirty two
Speaker 3: different philosophies and how you go about things.
Speaker 2: It's it's so fascinating to me.
Speaker 3: Mat It's why this sport is the best, why this
Speaker 3: league is the best, why we stay tuned in, you know,
Speaker 3: in the month of April was that five months away
Speaker 3: from the opener?
Speaker 2: Like it's just the best man?
Speaker 3: And speaking of April and the draft, and the main
Speaker 3: reason we have you on here is talking about the
Speaker 3: Dolphins draft class this year. And we heard Chris Career
Speaker 3: last week mention some teams have maybe picked up the
Speaker 3: phone and talked about would you be enticed to come
Speaker 3: up if certain player X is here, if we don't
Speaker 3: have player why in our spot? And you know every
Speaker 3: team goes to that every year. Right, you're gonna You're
Speaker 3: not gonna just go into the draft without any idea
Speaker 3: about who wants what and where you might have to
Speaker 3: go to get certain guys.
Speaker 2: So my question to you originally was who.
Speaker 3: Were some guys that could fall into the second day
Speaker 3: of the that would entice you to go up in
Speaker 3: that spot? Which usually in my experience, Kyle, this is
Speaker 3: not fact. Ba's just kind of going off of watching
Speaker 3: the draft for years, Like those first you know, seven
Speaker 3: or eight picks, you get a lot of activity in
Speaker 3: those picks with teams coming up to grab a guy
Speaker 3: that maybe slid a little bit. But I would expand
Speaker 3: that question and say what about back end of day
Speaker 3: one as well? Are there any players that if they
Speaker 3: conceivably could and did make it to that spot, that
Speaker 3: you might pick up the phone and and give away
Speaker 3: maybe a potential future premium pick, because that's probably what
Speaker 3: it cost to go.
Speaker 2: Up that high.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine with the Dolphins at fifty one,
Speaker 3: if you're talking back in the first round, I mean
Speaker 3: you're talking twenty twenty five spots to go up into
Speaker 3: the first round, I have to imagine that would include
Speaker 3: a one Yeah next year to get it done. Some
Speaker 3: players that I have very highly ranked. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: these are players that the Dolphins with their trends, would
Speaker 3: go after, but there's some positional there's some positions where
Speaker 3: I think some of the best talent is that are
Speaker 3: non premium positions across the league, and that may cause
Speaker 3: them to dip, but not necessarily dip to fifty one.
Speaker 1: Where's b Jeon Robinson gonna go? Well?
Speaker 3: Are the Falcons gonna? Honestly is are there? Are the
Speaker 3: Falcons gonna take b John Robinson at eight? And if
Speaker 3: they don't, are the Patriots with Romandre Stevenson gonna take
Speaker 3: them at fourteen? Just because he's the best vailable player
Speaker 3: and they want to run the ball and if the
Speaker 3: answers know, like, Okay, you're gonna get into the twenties,
Speaker 3: there's a very realistic chance. And if that's a player
Speaker 3: who I think is one of the three best players
Speaker 3: regardless of positional value.
Speaker 2: In this class, that's so crazy.
Speaker 3: Man. How about Darnell Washington, the tight end from the
Speaker 3: University of Georgia who has not established the super robust
Speaker 3: receiving resume as a pass catcher, But it's because brock
Speaker 3: Powers is probably gonna be a top fifteen pick next
Speaker 3: year at tight end, and he plays for the Georgia
Speaker 3: Bulldogs as well. They rotated three tight ends, and he
Speaker 3: brings an element that the Dolphins really don't have in
Speaker 3: their tight end room because we talked about yesterday on
Speaker 3: the show Derham Smythe and Eric Saubert and what he
Speaker 3: brings in Tanner Connor's developmental type. Darnold Washington sixty seven
Speaker 3: like two hundred and sixty five two hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: pounds and can hurtle over other human beings. It's just
Speaker 3: a different ballgame. Watch the drill at the combine of
Speaker 3: him with the blocking sled versus every other tight end
Speaker 3: where he's just walking it back effortlessly.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just a totally different layer, and it
Speaker 3: gives you a totally different presence within the room. It
Speaker 3: changes the dynamics of her tight end room. Tommy had
Speaker 3: a boy, the defensive lineman from Northwestern two hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty pounds ran in the four fourths. He's the first
Speaker 3: player in the history of the NFL combat in two
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty pound plus range to run four to
Speaker 3: four something. He spent a lot of time on inside
Speaker 3: shade shoulder of offensive tackles or further inside. Now he's
Speaker 3: kind of scheme flexible. He's kind of a player who
Speaker 3: can live on the outside. But we heard Chris Greer
Speaker 3: and Marvin Allen talk about drafting ahead right Zach Sealer,
Speaker 3: Christian Wilkins is a rake one. Davis are all in
Speaker 3: the final year of their current contracts as things currently stand.
Speaker 3: That's a player who I think is a potential game changer.
Speaker 3: It's not really you haven't really associated. When you talk
Speaker 3: about the Dolphins, you think a lot about the nose
Speaker 3: tackle position for more competition than another rotational player to
Speaker 3: be there with Rakwan Davis as compared to somebody who's
Speaker 3: probably more of a B gap defender, but I think
Speaker 3: he has a chance to be really really special. And then,
Speaker 3: of course offensive tackles, if you're going to do it
Speaker 3: for need and Dwan Jones falls and you're comfortable with that,
Speaker 3: or if you get kind of get win that Matthew
Speaker 3: Bergern from Sarahcuse is going to come off the board.
Speaker 3: And I like him better than a number of the
Speaker 3: offensive tackles that are purported to be going in the
Speaker 3: top twenty as far as a fit specifically for the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: And he could play guard, he playing the right side,
Speaker 3: he could play on the left side, like he'd address
Speaker 3: either one of your positions on the offensive line that
Speaker 3: are generally perceived to be the two least established. When
Speaker 3: you consider Toront Armstead, Connor Williams, and Robert Hunt. Is
Speaker 3: kind of a three established starters, and you feel really
Speaker 3: good about what you have there. So those are some
Speaker 3: names that I would invoke for the Dolphins if they
Speaker 3: find themselves in that position and somebody comes caughtland. So
Speaker 3: you can definitely sense the carry over here of the
Speaker 3: amount of times that you and I talk about this
Speaker 3: stuff in our chats, because you said a lot of
Speaker 3: players there that I've I've kind of circled in as
Speaker 3: potentials for fifty one as well. And that's where I
Speaker 3: want to go next, because you know, I used Dane
Speaker 3: Brugler's big board and kind of did this game where
Speaker 3: I if guys were within fifteen spots of that spot,
Speaker 3: I mentioned him as potential options if I liked their
Speaker 3: tap and everything, and so berge Ron, Dewan Jones were
Speaker 3: a couple of those guys as well, and that be
Speaker 3: Jhon robinsone. That's that's fascinating to me, man, because it's
Speaker 3: you know, it's like the It's like when Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: slid on draft Day back in five, like it was
Speaker 3: because there was just teams that didn't need quarterbacks and
Speaker 3: he just kept going and going and going.
Speaker 2: Like same situation there. So you gave me some names
Speaker 2: there for potential trade ups.
Speaker 3: Now I'm curious to see guys that you believe will
Speaker 3: be there at fifty one stick and pick and you're
Speaker 3: happy with was that list looked like?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: I I think Bergron has a decent chance. There are
Speaker 3: some teams that I've heard that generally consider him to
Speaker 3: be more of an inside player than an offensive tackle,
Speaker 3: and he's about three hundred and eighteen three hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty pounds a game to the combine at three eighteen,
Speaker 3: So if you think he's a guard, that might hurt
Speaker 3: his value. I like Steve Avila, the guard from TCU
Speaker 3: as well. He's very physical. He's a bowling ball. He's
Speaker 3: like the prototypical dancing bear than Mike Mayock. Ism really
Speaker 3: light on his feet, but a lot of punch, a
Speaker 3: lot of pop, a lot of power. I don't know
Speaker 3: that Mazi Smith, a defensive tackle for Michigan's gonna get
Speaker 3: to fifty one. But the concern there is the lack
Speaker 3: of impact in the passing game. He's a total freak though,
Speaker 3: and I think he has the potential to be a
Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence type player. Dexter Warren said, like seven and
Speaker 3: a half sacks for the Giants last year, so he's
Speaker 3: got the potential to be that kind of player. Tight end,
Speaker 3: I think about Sam Laporta from Iowa, who I think
Speaker 3: has a really strong chance to be there. You'd have
Speaker 3: a hard time going wrong with a number of tight
Speaker 3: ends one day two, but Laporta, I think is the
Speaker 3: one that's probably the best fit for the Dolphins. And
Speaker 3: then I'd also mentioned Keanu Benton from Wisconsin, the interior
Speaker 3: defensive lineman who's about three hundred and ten, is a
Speaker 3: nose tackle but has some pleasant upside as a pass rusher.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing for him is just going
Speaker 3: to be consistently in consistency and pad level. That reminds
Speaker 3: me a little bit of Christian Wilkins when you think
Speaker 3: about when Wilkins first got in house. He so you're
Speaker 3: shaking your head and wonderful podcast. Oh there you go, Okay,
Speaker 3: exactly what And for the record, we are recording this
Speaker 3: before the Friday podcast came out, So yeah, got it cool.
Speaker 1: So reminds me of Christian Wilkins a little bit.
Speaker 3: Where just pad level consistency's going to be the big
Speaker 3: sticky point for him, and once he gets that down,
Speaker 3: he's he's going to be a really really good player
Speaker 3: on the inside for somebody. Yeah three fifteen with quicks Man.
Speaker 3: That my first thoughts number ninety four and what he
Speaker 3: does down here for us and how valuable he is.
Speaker 3: And I freaking love Keanu Benton's tape too, So that's
Speaker 3: again good company there. Man. Let's go ahead and take
Speaker 3: our first break right there and come back on the
Speaker 3: other side. We'll talk about that pick in the third round.
Speaker 3: Also want to get Kyle's measure the temperature here about
Speaker 3: what the board would look like for him to want
Speaker 3: to move off that pick at fifty one.
Speaker 2: All of that's next year.
Speaker 3: On the Draft Time Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought
Speaker 3: to you by AutoNation. Segment two of episode two of
Speaker 3: the Draft Time Podcast, featuring my guest today, Kyle Krabs
Speaker 3: locked on Dolphins doing a great job as always breaking
Speaker 3: down this draft class for us. I think this is
Speaker 3: the fourth year now, Kyle, I've had you on for
Speaker 3: our pre draft extravaganza, our closer are.
Speaker 1: I'm just now we don't do it more often. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. I get the drafts only
Speaker 1: once a year. I get it.
Speaker 2: We do combine usually if I'm there something, yeah, something,
Speaker 2: and well, you're coming back down for camp this year.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, we'll get just get you.
Speaker 3: On here for something like that because I can't wait
Speaker 3: for training came in. There's gonna be so many fun
Speaker 3: battles to watch. I need your eyes to be able
Speaker 3: to watch all ninety players out there because there's so
Speaker 3: many fun guys to watch in this roster. So Casey
Speaker 3: case in point, I know you're trying to move on here.
Speaker 3: This is one of the best five rosters in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not so.
Speaker 3: Generally speaking like you look at you talked on yesterday's
Speaker 3: show about this edge group might be one of the
Speaker 3: best position groups in the NFL regardless of position. I
Speaker 3: think the wide receiver room has the same claim right now,
Speaker 3: And so come on, like, yeah, the training camp is
Speaker 3: going to be a show. And those are two premium
Speaker 3: spots too, which has been like one of my big
Speaker 3: sticking points, like it costs. We saw what DeVante Adams
Speaker 3: plan before, we saw what Tyreek Hill went for. We
Speaker 3: saw you know what Stefan Diggs went for a few
Speaker 3: years ago. Receivers of premium position. Edge is probably the
Speaker 3: second most premium position in the National Football League.
Speaker 2: Yes, cornerback.
Speaker 3: I mean that's another one of those like the Dolphins
Speaker 3: are checking the boxes at the main spots that really
Speaker 3: you know, require the most to go get those types
Speaker 3: of star marquee players.
Speaker 2: So if I didn't get you fired up, I don't
Speaker 2: know what will. Right there. Me and Kyle in agreement
Speaker 2: once again here.
Speaker 3: You know, if we were to do a podcast together, Kyle,
Speaker 3: like long term, we got to find a way to
Speaker 3: disagree more, because maybe not so much fun when we
Speaker 3: just sit here and agree the whole time.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Uh, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Some things we could agree about, but we'll save that
Speaker 3: for another Yeah, that's true, That is very true. Let's
Speaker 3: talk about what the board might look like for you
Speaker 3: to want to get off that pick at fifty one,
Speaker 3: because you know you talked about the what was it fifty.
Speaker 2: To the something power hot man, I don't know, endless possibilities. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The doomsday scenario for me is assuming that the players
Speaker 3: that are generally considered to be first round players are
Speaker 3: off the board, are all off the board, and in addition,
Speaker 3: Darnel Washington's gone, Jack Campbell, the linebacker from Iowa is gone,
Speaker 3: offensive tackle Matthew Bergeron from Syracuse is gone, Sam Laporta
Speaker 3: is gone, Mazzi Smith is gone, Washington State go Kog's
Speaker 3: linebacker Diane Henley is gone, Keanu Benton is gone. If
Speaker 3: if you find yourself in those shoes and all of
Speaker 3: those players are the players that are no longer on
Speaker 3: the board as well, I'd be inclined to think somebody
Speaker 3: who's really good fell first and foremost, and in that
Speaker 3: case you might just take that player. But if if
Speaker 3: it's a quarterback, just because we know they didn't do
Speaker 3: thirty visits and they don't perceive that to be an eme.
Speaker 3: They're paying good money for their top two guys and
Speaker 3: they invested a guy who started games for him as
Speaker 3: the third quarterback, that would be the world in which
Speaker 3: I would say, Okay, how many players are in the
Speaker 3: next tier at the positions that I'm hoping to have
Speaker 3: some competition at how much surplus do I have, and
Speaker 3: that's going to dictate how far I can go and
Speaker 3: what I could then charge another team to come up
Speaker 3: for somebody that they really want and really, you know,
Speaker 3: either restock next year at draft class or get myself
Speaker 3: back into that mid range where you know you can
Speaker 3: add a player in the fourth or fifth round, whatever
Speaker 3: it might be, that can be a contributor right away
Speaker 3: and give you some long term upside.
Speaker 2: Which you know, I think the Dolphins could use that.
Speaker 3: But if not, if like you mentioned, one of those
Speaker 3: guys falls like it's a balance of is two players
Speaker 3: better than this one player? And it's again all the
Speaker 3: different permutations and possibilities makes this so much fun. And
Speaker 3: that brings us right into the eighty fourth pick in
Speaker 3: the draft, the third round for the Miami Dolphins. Say
Speaker 3: they stick and pick at fifty one, come up on
Speaker 3: the clock here in eighty four. Does that board look
Speaker 3: like for you to want to go up there and
Speaker 3: turn your card in? Some guys that really make you
Speaker 3: rush to the podium to get that card in. So
Speaker 3: if they don't have if they don't go tight end
Speaker 3: at fifty one, or if they move back and eighty
Speaker 3: four ends up being their first pick, hypothetically, some names
Speaker 3: that really moved the needle for me would be the
Speaker 3: trio of tight ends. Luke Schoomaker from Michigan, Tucker Craft
Speaker 3: from South Dakota State, and Brenton Strange from Penn State.
Speaker 3: Those three guys, I think it was Micshay just put
Speaker 3: Brenton Strange to the Dolphins at fifty one in his
Speaker 3: most recent mont That's it's a little rich, but I
Speaker 3: really like the fit and he's a really promising player.
Speaker 3: So that trio of tight ends I would really like.
Speaker 3: I think about offensive tackle Blake Freeland, who's really athletic
Speaker 3: tested very very well as a fit at eighty four.
Speaker 3: I think fifty one is also too rich for him.
Speaker 3: But there's developmental upside here, and the Dolphins need some
Speaker 3: darnfleck stability on the offensive line with the offensive line coach.
Speaker 3: Then hopefully with Frank Smith and Mike McDaniel and Butch Berry,
Speaker 3: they can get that on lock and kind of what
Speaker 3: we talked about the value of having the same system
Speaker 3: year over year. We can get the same messaging and
Speaker 3: coaching on how to handle techniques and win to implement
Speaker 3: as well if they want to go running back. I
Speaker 3: really like Israel Abanacanada from Pittsburgh as potential long term
Speaker 3: air to Raheem Moster, who's here on the next two
Speaker 3: years on a two year deal. Those are some names
Speaker 3: that pop to me. Brenton Simpson, the linebacker from Clemson,
Speaker 3: I think could be a very intriguing hybrid type linebacker
Speaker 3: like what they brought Malik Reid in to be on
Speaker 3: a one year deal. I think about a player with
Speaker 3: Vic Fangio win his last year at Denver. They drafted
Speaker 3: the third round was Baron Browning from Ohio State. I
Speaker 3: think there's some pretty compelling parallels between those players that
Speaker 3: if they wanted that player long term, Frent and Simpson,
Speaker 3: who can play sub linebacker, he can play on the hash,
Speaker 3: he can rush the passer a little bit. That would
Speaker 3: be a pretty interesting player for me to invoke in
Speaker 3: that stratusfy of the draft as well. That's a player
Speaker 3: that I was a big fan of coming out of
Speaker 3: the draft of a year ago. So it's a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago Baron browning out of Ohio State and
Speaker 3: watching him kind of break out last year at them
Speaker 3: was really.
Speaker 2: Cool to see. So yeah, that sits it.
Speaker 3: Man. There's so many options, and you talk about that
Speaker 3: in a way that again I just no idea how
Speaker 3: it's going to go, because you talk about the tight
Speaker 3: end class like there's three different guys you might like
Speaker 3: in that spot. So it's like who's on the board,
Speaker 3: who's not. It's just it's gonna be a really fascinating
Speaker 3: draft for the Miami Dolphins. And this is the most
Speaker 3: fascinating part of having you on the podcast is right here, Kyle,
Speaker 3: because every time I have a national guest, you know,
Speaker 3: no slight to anybody, but like it's impossible to say,
Speaker 3: here's who I think might be a sixth round fit
Speaker 3: for the Miami Dolphins. But you're unique in the sense
Speaker 3: that you are that deep into the draft with Dolphins
Speaker 3: centric knowledge, So you're really providing the best value, the
Speaker 3: best bang for the buck right here.
Speaker 2: Round six and seven.
Speaker 3: I know you've got guys that you've been looking at
Speaker 3: that you're curious about, whether they can contribute on special teams,
Speaker 3: whether they have long term upside. Just some guys that
Speaker 3: you might like, whether it's six seventh round, some Day
Speaker 3: three options that you have your eye on. Watching this
Speaker 3: college tape coming into the twenty twenty three NFL Draft.
Speaker 3: Joel Honingford tight end, Michigan, former offensive tackle, will maul
Speaker 3: you into the ground if you want to improve the
Speaker 3: run game. This is a guy who he's called one
Speaker 3: pass in his college career. First two years at Michigan,
Speaker 3: he was he was literally a tackle, and he slimmed
Speaker 3: down and now he's two sixty five and he is
Speaker 3: a brick house in the run game and he will
Speaker 3: move you. And you think about coach McDaniel and San
Speaker 3: Francisco and how much success San Francisco had with late
Speaker 3: round tight ends.
Speaker 1: Who can block.
Speaker 3: This guy can pass protect, he can run, block, he
Speaker 3: is ruthless. He's a player that might not be a
Speaker 3: draftable player or might not be a drafted player. He
Speaker 3: posted modest athletic profile at his pro day. But if
Speaker 3: you want to guarantee that you're going to get him,
Speaker 3: and some teams out there kind of you. Round six
Speaker 3: and seven is kind of an advance on priority undrafted
Speaker 3: free agents, just players who don't want to run the
Speaker 3: risk of losing to another team in the open market
Speaker 3: when they're on negotiating, because then it's okay, how much
Speaker 3: of a playing time opportunity you're going to have, how
Speaker 3: much of a signing bonus, or are you're going to
Speaker 3: be able to afford us? And for a team like Miami,
Speaker 3: they have certainly not had a problem attracting priority undrafted
Speaker 3: free agents in the past. But if you want to
Speaker 3: get a jump on one, that's a name I really like.
Speaker 3: I like Xavian Valade from Arizona State running back. I
Speaker 3: believe I saw a report that they had the Dolphins
Speaker 3: had interviewed him in this pre draft process, and we
Speaker 3: had heard whispers that Mike McDaniel and company they really
Speaker 3: liked the Arizona State running back from last year in
Speaker 3: the draft, and he ended up going to the Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers. This guy's got the same kind of slasher
Speaker 3: running style and he led to Pac twelve in rushing
Speaker 3: yards like he was super productive. He had trained inferred
Speaker 3: in and really really I thought it showed great growth
Speaker 3: from his early game tape at a smaller level of
Speaker 3: competition versus what he put on tape last year at
Speaker 3: Arizona State. I want to invoke the name Carl Brooks
Speaker 3: here from Bowling Green. I know there's some out there
Speaker 3: that think that might be a top one hundred player
Speaker 3: because he was really productive. But he's a three hundred
Speaker 3: pound body type who can really rush the passer. Played
Speaker 3: at Bowling Green and rushed off the edge at times.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably more of an interior rusher at
Speaker 3: the next level. I think he's a pretty interesting developmental
Speaker 3: type player and has some really high flashes from a
Speaker 3: pass rush perspective. So shame on me if Carl Brooks
Speaker 3: ends up going early, because I know there's some that
Speaker 3: think that's a player that could get his name called
Speaker 3: late on day two or early on day three, But
Speaker 3: from my evaluation, it's just I think middle of day
Speaker 3: three is probably a more appropriate range for him to
Speaker 3: be the kind of player that you would want to
Speaker 3: pull the trigger on at that point in the draft.
Speaker 3: Potential option if they do find a way to move
Speaker 3: off one of those earlier picks and get back into
Speaker 3: that fourth fifth round range like you're talking about there,
Speaker 3: you gave us a good player really for every round there.
Speaker 3: So that's taking it one step for their going above
Speaker 3: and beyond. Kyle, that's what you do your Draft Time
Speaker 3: Podcast appearances. We're gonna go ahead and take our last
Speaker 3: break right there and come back on the other side
Speaker 3: and play I kind of mock back and forth game.
Speaker 3: We're gonna draft our guys for the fifty first pick.
Speaker 3: That's next Draft Time Podcast. My guest today is Kyle Krabs,
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Speaker 3: catch the Monday episode breaking down the off season so
Speaker 3: far as a primer for this episode, go back and
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Speaker 3: leave us a review five stars, and tell us what
Speaker 3: you think of me and Kyle here on the podcast.
Speaker 3: And we're gonna also maybe give the fans a chance
Speaker 3: to evaluate who does better in this game.
Speaker 2: Just for the fun of it, Kyle, I don't know,
Speaker 2: we'll see if we do that.
Speaker 3: I think our blue check marks are going away and
Speaker 3: recording this podcast, so maybe we don't even get a
Speaker 3: tweet anybodynymore. We just tweet to ourselves because that's how
Speaker 3: Twitter works now apparently. But I heard this game on
Speaker 3: the Move the Sticks podcast on Jeremiah Bucky Brooks. So
Speaker 3: they did two separate drafts and offensive drafts and a
Speaker 3: defensive draft, so like they had to build their eleven
Speaker 3: man rosters for either side of the ball, and it
Speaker 3: was it was funny to see them invoke like a
Speaker 3: fantasy style approach because like DJ took Bryce Young first
Speaker 3: and then Book He's like, I'm not gonna take a
Speaker 3: quarterback until my last pick because you can't take another
Speaker 3: quarterback here. And then DJ did this exact same thing
Speaker 3: because he went Bucky went Dejohn Robinson. So DJ gets
Speaker 3: Jamir Gibbs with the last pick. Some fun gamesmanship there.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to do something here, and we probably
Speaker 3: already have discussed all these guys, but just for the
Speaker 3: fun of it, to close something fun here on the podcast,
Speaker 3: a my Guys Draft air quote my guys, and let's
Speaker 3: keep this to the to the to the day.
Speaker 2: Two picks and it can be it can be anybody
Speaker 2: on the board.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull up the Dane Brugler top one hundred
Speaker 3: because I think we both we both agree Dane does
Speaker 3: great stuff, and it's it's pretty easily accessible and there's
Speaker 3: no breakdowns on the players fifty through one hundred, so
Speaker 3: you can scroll through it quickly, Kyle. But we're gonna
Speaker 3: go ahead and look at players ranked fifty. Let's do
Speaker 3: fifty one, and I know his fiftieth player is a
Speaker 3: guy that you probably pick in John Michael Schmid. So
Speaker 3: we're gonna go fifty one and lower and we're gonna
Speaker 3: alternate picks and find out which of the three players
Speaker 3: that you or I draft from that list gets more
Speaker 3: love on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Sound good? Yeah, that's fine with me. I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: you the honors. Do you need to do?
Speaker 3: Just not going to pull that big board up. Are
Speaker 3: you ready to roll with it? I think I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at it right here. There's some really
Speaker 2: good options in here.
Speaker 3: I'm happy I cut you off there on John Michael
Speaker 3: Schmidt Because'm pretty sure's where you would have gone, But
Speaker 3: why don't you go ahead and kick us off here
Speaker 3: and take your first guy from fifty one to one
Speaker 3: hundred on the Athletics Top one hundred big board. All right,
Speaker 3: Travis Well, I appreciate the hospitality here to let me
Speaker 3: kick this thing off. I'm gonna go with my highest
Speaker 3: rated player for the Dolphins and my own evaluations off
Speaker 3: these players outside of the top fifty, starting with mister
Speaker 3: Jack Campbell linebacker, Iowa Hawkeys. That's gonna be my first pick.
Speaker 2: Where's he at? What number is here?
Speaker 1: Jack Campbell is ad I just saw him as I
Speaker 1: was scrolling through. Here is seventy three.
Speaker 3: Wow, seventy three. You're getting a good right there at
Speaker 3: number seventy three. I was almost certain you were going
Speaker 3: to take my guy right here, because we talked about
Speaker 3: him as a potential first round pick and you were
Speaker 3: sending me some Jack Campbell close the other day.
Speaker 2: That dude's the stud. So you definitely got a great
Speaker 2: pick right there.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to go right back to the well
Speaker 3: here on the offensive line, six foot eight, three hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy five pounds can dunk of basketball, can swallow
Speaker 3: up the entire second level of defense. He allowed five
Speaker 3: pressures last year, no hits, no sacks, five pressures in
Speaker 3: pass protection. Dwan Jones, the offensive tackle from Ohio State's
Speaker 3: my pick. He's number fifty two here, so he just
Speaker 3: gets into a threshold. You know this, This is where
Speaker 3: the gamesmanship starts to come in here. I don't want
Speaker 3: to have an emotional reaction to you making that selection,
Speaker 3: so instead, I'm going to go with my favorite tight
Speaker 3: end fit for the Dolphins. It's a name that we've
Speaker 3: discussed I can stay with, ironically enough, the Iowawkeyes, and
Speaker 3: Sam Laporta is the choice here for the Dolphins. Another
Speaker 3: area of course of interest for the Dolphins and their
Speaker 3: fans as they look to retool that offense. I'm gonna,
Speaker 3: you know, go against the rules of the move the
Speaker 3: sticks game here because there's another guy that is same
Speaker 3: possession I just took. I'm gonna take two of them,
Speaker 3: and it's a guy that I've been talking about quite
Speaker 3: a lot the last couple of weeks as I finish
Speaker 3: up my draft prep.
Speaker 2: I think the world of Matthew Berger on man here.
Speaker 3: No is that against the rules. Maybe I broke my
Speaker 3: own rules there. Oh, you can do whatever you want,
Speaker 3: it's your show. I don't care.
Speaker 1: But you know what, there's a guard chills met.
Speaker 3: Slash guard on the name. So I'm gonna just go
Speaker 3: ahead and sam drafting as a guard for the sake
Speaker 3: of the game.
Speaker 1: Will he just blew up my whole spot?
Speaker 2: It says six five three twenty three and here I
Speaker 2: had him at three eighteens.
Speaker 3: So maybe he gains weight, which great, But I think
Speaker 3: that he's a phenomenal fit for this Dolphins offense. What
Speaker 3: do you want to play? Inside or outside? Matthew bergeron?
Speaker 3: So I've got Dwan Jones and Matthew bergeron.
Speaker 1: Let's go how many? How many players are we picking?
Speaker 1: Just three? This is the last one, okay, so this
Speaker 1: is my last one.
Speaker 3: I would get absolutely plastered for not adding an offensive
Speaker 3: line to this list. I know that I know the
Speaker 3: appetite of Dolphins fans, so I hear your cries. I
Speaker 3: will add Oklahoma's Anton Harrison as my third and final selection.
Speaker 3: Harrison has some echoes of Christian Darisol, who was a
Speaker 3: first round pick for the Vikings. I don't think he's
Speaker 3: quite as polished, but he is a pleasantly good mover
Speaker 3: for his stature and how long that he is. So
Speaker 3: I like that as my third option as a tackle
Speaker 3: who's who's generally perceived to be in the same stratosphere
Speaker 3: of draft projections as Matthew berg Roun.
Speaker 2: I like it a lot.
Speaker 3: You've got a really solid looking school bad there, and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about taking a player we already discussed, but
Speaker 3: for the sake of the podcast, because we already broke
Speaker 3: this player down, I want to get your take on
Speaker 3: somebody else. I was gonna slot in Keanu Benton here,
Speaker 3: and I gotta say, if I had Dewan Jones, Matthew
Speaker 3: Bergeron and Keanu Bent, I think I'm gonna crown myself
Speaker 3: the winner right away with that. But and maybe I
Speaker 3: still do because I like my team up, because I
Speaker 3: like my guys. But I'm gonna go to someone else here.
Speaker 3: And a running back I just think is awesome and
Speaker 3: ty J Spears from Tulane. I just want to get
Speaker 3: your take on him real quick, bum blayer. Obviously, the
Speaker 3: big concern with him is there's some some medical questions.
Speaker 3: He had a torn acl and tormaniscus earlier in his
Speaker 3: college career, but he came out and he ran all
Speaker 3: over just about anybody who tried to defend him last
Speaker 3: year obviously went out with the banging and the Bowl
Speaker 3: game against USC on New Year's Day. And I think
Speaker 3: he has the best vision instincts outside of b Jon Robinson,
Speaker 3: of any back in the class. I think his vision
Speaker 3: in processing is really really good. So when you think
Speaker 3: about that potentially fitting into a zone scheme, zone heavy SKA.
Speaker 1: Rushing the ball.
Speaker 3: Of course, everybody's gonna run all different kinds of concepts
Speaker 3: based on the front you're given, but the Dolphins and
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel historically run a lot of zone. Tay J.
Speaker 3: Spears is a player whose instincts is being able to
Speaker 3: set up blocks and cut off of blocks and make
Speaker 3: defenders wrong with what gap they plug themselves into. Really
Speaker 3: really fun fit and look, I think if you take
Speaker 3: his top twenty runs from last year, they hold up
Speaker 3: against just about anybody's in the nation.
Speaker 1: Last year for running back prospects.
Speaker 3: In this year's class, averaging over four yards per carry
Speaker 3: after initial contact all four years there at two lane.
Speaker 2: He is man.
Speaker 3: He's a fun guy to watch. I'm glad you feel
Speaker 3: the same way. And like that senior ball. On top
Speaker 3: of it, the production had this year. The Senior Bowl
Speaker 3: was fun to watch with him too, So really good
Speaker 3: stuff there, man. You got Jack Campbell, Sam Laport, and
Speaker 3: Anton Harrison. He got Dwan Jones, Matthew Bergeron and ty
Speaker 3: J Spears. Let us know on Twitter who won the draft.
Speaker 3: I'm curious to get your guys' take on that interact
Speaker 3: with us. Let us tige us in those as well.
Speaker 3: I can't speak anymore at the end, Kyle, speaking of that,
Speaker 3: these usually take us an hour and a half to get.
Speaker 2: Through two episodes.
Speaker 3: I think both episodes clocked in right around thirty seven minutes,
Speaker 3: So I try.
Speaker 2: That's my friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, we did like a two hour marathon
Speaker 3: two years ago or whatever it was. So we laugh
Speaker 3: at we're saving each other's voices here at the end.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: I'll give you a list of the floor once again
Speaker 3: to promote your stuff where they can find you and
Speaker 3: where your podcast and where you're writ and all that
Speaker 3: fun stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm locked in on the locked On network, host
Speaker 3: of Locked On Dolphins. I'm the co host of the
Speaker 3: Locked On NFL Scouting podcast, which is a show dedicated
Speaker 3: to team building across salary cap management, trades, player valuations,
Speaker 3: player evaluations, qualities of rosters, pretty much everything that your
Speaker 3: general manager has to sort through to make decisions on
Speaker 3: how to make a roster. Of the things and angles
Speaker 3: that we try to take, we look at a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff from the top down instead of from the
Speaker 3: bottom up, which is a lot of fun because it's
Speaker 3: a lot of big picture conversations on that show. But
Speaker 3: that's where I'm at. You can find me on social
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Speaker 3: guys found a way in a totally saturated market to
Speaker 3: find something unique, which is in twenty twenty three, I
Speaker 3: don't think there's such a thing as a unique podcast anymore,
Speaker 3: but you guys did find a way to hit that.
Speaker 3: So really looking forward to hearing more of your guys
Speaker 3: takes pull from the Dolphins in the National Football League
Speaker 3: as we go forward here into the team building cycle.
Speaker 3: Kyle Crabs once again, thank you for your time today, sir.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it every single year. It's an hour plus
Speaker 3: of your time, so greatly appreciate it, my friend.
Speaker 2: We'll see us soon.
Speaker 1: Thanks. Travis Joy the draft, and off he goes.
Speaker 3: And as we do when we have Kyle on the podcast,
Speaker 3: we got smarter. We learned more about this draft class,
Speaker 3: were learn more about the Miami Dolphins, and what a
Speaker 3: fun weekend it's going to be adding some more talent
Speaker 3: to this Miami Dolphins roster, which, if you heard Kyle say,
Speaker 3: top five roster in the NFL, hard to disagree with
Speaker 3: him there. If we get the top five quarterback production again,
Speaker 3: oh buddy, could be a lot of fun there. All right,
Speaker 3: let's go ahead and get out of here. Tomorrow Jordan
Speaker 3: Reed joins us to give us some NFL scuttle butt
Speaker 3: and kind of preview the entire draft, but also talk
Speaker 3: about his mock picks for the Miami Dolphins, and then
Speaker 3: we're off until we have draft picks. We'll recap Friday's
Speaker 3: draft with the Tube draft picks, assuming it's only two,
Speaker 3: or it is two.
Speaker 2: Or whatever the case may be.
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