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Speaker 1: Welcome to Why Not Me? Embracing Autism and Mental Health Worldwide.
Speaker 1: Joining us today is Dana Hargus, LPC. She's the founder
Speaker 1: of Restore of Aida, a biofeedback therapy center in Ada, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: With a background in education and special education along with
Speaker 1: a master's degree in school counseling, Dana transitioned from a
Speaker 1: public school teacher to a dedicated practitioner of biofeedback therapy.
Speaker 1: Her journey began with a passion for helping children with
Speaker 1: emotional and learning challenges, leading her to establish Restore of Aida,
Speaker 1: where she focuses on calming the nervous system to address
Speaker 1: issues like add anxiety, depression, and addiction. She empowers clients
Speaker 1: to achieve lasting mental and emotional well being. It's there
Speaker 1: pleasure to have her join us today, so before we
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Speaker 1: coming on. Yeah, I'm glad to So tell me a
Speaker 1: little bit about yourself and how you got started.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was an educator a very long time ago.
Speaker 2: I think I started teaching school in like ninety one,
Speaker 2: and I taught school for about nine years, mostly special education.
Speaker 2: And during that period of time, I was a foster
Speaker 2: and then an adoptive mom, so I was very interested
Speaker 2: in how to help disregulated people because I had them
Speaker 2: living in my house and I spent my day with
Speaker 2: them in the classroom.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: During that period of time, I got interested in biofeedback
Speaker 2: as an intervention for my own son, one of my
Speaker 2: adopted kids. And as I worked through that and began
Speaker 2: to try to figure out how I could do it myself,
Speaker 2: I figured out first of all that there were only
Speaker 2: two people.
Speaker 3: In Oklahoma doing it.
Speaker 2: They were both private pay and I didn't have the
Speaker 2: money to get him what he needed. But it really
Speaker 2: intrigued me all the things I found out when I
Speaker 2: was researching and visiting with people and calling places, and
Speaker 2: at the time, I was working on a master's and
Speaker 2: I just kind of sped things up and got my
Speaker 2: master's in counseling and went under supervision and became a
Speaker 2: licensed counselor here in Oklahoma with the thought, as soon
Speaker 2: as I have this license in hand, I'm going to
Speaker 2: go and do this bio feedback training see if I
Speaker 2: can help my own son. And at that point I
Speaker 2: stopped being a teacher and I was going to just
Speaker 2: become a counselor. So I did that and was able
Speaker 2: to do a lot of cool stuff with him, and
Speaker 2: for the first time in his life, he was able
Speaker 2: to go to school without them calling me and without medication.
Speaker 2: So it was really great, and that was kind of
Speaker 2: the start of a new journey, and I entered into
Speaker 2: this career that I've had now for the last twenty
Speaker 2: five years.
Speaker 1: So that led you to opening a company now, correct.
Speaker 3: Yes, I have two companies.
Speaker 2: The first company is my counseling agency and it's just
Speaker 2: a private practice here in Ada, and we have like
Speaker 2: a little substation and more which is close to Norman, Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: We have thirteen counselors and we schedule over one thousand
Speaker 2: appointments a month and we do bio feedback.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you have all these counselors, Let's focus on
Speaker 1: that part of it first, right with all the counselors
Speaker 1: that work with you. In your bio it says you
Speaker 1: cover autism, ADHD, schizophrenia, bipolar, a lot of different things
Speaker 1: that fall under the mental health umbrella. So what is
Speaker 1: it that you cover or is there anything that you
Speaker 1: don't cover?
Speaker 2: Well, if you think about it, I think, first of all,
Speaker 2: if you live in a town, our town is probably
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand people in the town proper, and then
Speaker 2: there's lots of little towns around us that we pull from.
Speaker 3: What we focus on is what walks through the door.
Speaker 3: You know. It's like, if you go to Dallas, you.
Speaker 2: Can probably make a career of seeing women between the
Speaker 2: ages of thirty and fifty with anxiety and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But when you're been Ada, that isn't really the way
Speaker 2: it works. So we've had an opportunity for a long
Speaker 2: time to get to figure out how do you deal
Speaker 2: with all these different demographics and where that has led me.
Speaker 2: For probably twenty years, I've known I want to move
Speaker 2: out of where I'm at someday, and I want to
Speaker 2: move into intensive treatment that is more whole body. In counseling,
Speaker 2: you tend to see people once a week, maybe twice
Speaker 2: a week, and we make great progress.
Speaker 3: I'm not unhappy with where I'm at or what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I just know that in terms of mental health, especially
Speaker 2: mental health for people that are really struggling, I feel
Speaker 2: like our current systems are a fail.
Speaker 1: I'm curious where do you think it's failing.
Speaker 2: Impatient care is not appropriate. It will keep you alive
Speaker 2: if somebody is going to die, it's very good too,
Speaker 2: Like if somebody's drinking themselves to death, they can sober up,
Speaker 2: they can get some help, they can be protected. But
Speaker 2: I feel like impatient care for children is unbelievably inadequate,
Speaker 2: and for most adults as well. They come out over
Speaker 2: medicated and struggling, often more than when they went in.
Speaker 2: And then we look at all the medications and all
Speaker 2: the things that we're doing to try to help people,
Speaker 2: and what I see is that they don't work.
Speaker 3: I feel like you've got to address the whole body.
Speaker 2: At some point in my past, I thought, Okay, I
Speaker 2: am going to open a mental hospital. That was my plan,
Speaker 2: and I started checking into that looking and then in
Speaker 2: the end, I thought, do I really want to spend
Speaker 2: a million dollars?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes total sense. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: I've worked all my life to get out of debt,
Speaker 2: to get where I am in this nice stable position,
Speaker 2: and I have a lot of grandkids, and I have
Speaker 2: a good life, and I don't want to tie myself
Speaker 2: so hard to something that I lose what I have.
Speaker 3: So kind of went by the wayside.
Speaker 2: And then I thought, I'm going to open a boy's home,
Speaker 2: and I begin to try to navigate that.
Speaker 3: With our states.
Speaker 1: What did you find there? Anything better?
Speaker 2: They won't even pay me enough to do it right.
Speaker 2: I knew what I needed to do. I couldn't even
Speaker 2: find a way to make it break even, so then
Speaker 2: to let that go.
Speaker 3: So I've been letting things go a long time.
Speaker 2: So finally I arrived at my current model that I
Speaker 2: knew would work. Then I just had to figure out
Speaker 2: how to make a go of it, and I feel
Speaker 2: like I have. Okay, what did you come up with?
Speaker 2: It's a whole bodied approach that centers around bio feedback.
Speaker 2: But people start about six weeks before they come to
Speaker 2: Ada in their home, and I have a lady that
Speaker 2: works with me. She begins to work with them to
Speaker 2: get them to begin to make lifestyle changes depending on
Speaker 2: where they are, depends on where you start.
Speaker 1: Can you give an example of what you're talking about there?
Speaker 2: Things as simple as a shift in the diet and
Speaker 2: what are we going to do to improve gut hell?
Speaker 2: Also the impact of attachment on her whole life. I
Speaker 2: feel like that is so often ignored. Look at what
Speaker 2: supplements might be helpful. So they get things from us
Speaker 2: in the mail. For six weeks, we work with them
Speaker 2: online to prepare them to be as ready as they
Speaker 2: can when they get to Ada.
Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds good, So what's next? After that?
Speaker 3: They run to Ada?
Speaker 2: They're here for two weeks and they receive five months
Speaker 2: of bive feedback in two weeks. So you're getting a
Speaker 2: AM and a PM session every day. And also during
Speaker 2: that time, we have all these other interventions that begin
Speaker 2: to work on resetting your nervous system.
Speaker 1: What type of results are you seeing from this?
Speaker 2: The outcome is astounding because if you think, how would
Speaker 2: you like to learn something?
Speaker 3: If you were going to learn to play the piano
Speaker 3: and you.
Speaker 2: Were going to do it an hour a week every week,
Speaker 2: or in this case, it would even be just thirty
Speaker 2: minutes because we do counseling and conjunction with BIW feedback,
Speaker 2: so it's not like they get a whole hour of it.
Speaker 2: You're going to do thirty minutes a week, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do forty five minutes twice a day. In the end,
Speaker 2: it's going to take you five months to catch up
Speaker 2: with the number of treatments I get in ten days.
Speaker 2: But what that really does is it trains the brain
Speaker 2: in such a rapid way.
Speaker 3: The brain is eager to learn, it's eager to check.
Speaker 3: So you begin to address things like insomnia and anxiety
Speaker 3: and anger and overthinking and attentional problems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like a very good plan.
Speaker 2: You just meet the brain where it is, and most
Speaker 2: of the time the goal is to really calm things
Speaker 2: down and then when people are not with me, they're
Speaker 2: with my colleague, and we have some other employees that we.
Speaker 3: Work on other aspects of this.
Speaker 2: How do we take these changes and go back home
Speaker 2: with them?
Speaker 1: Now, when you say biofeedback, there's going to be a
Speaker 1: lot of listeners to say, what, right, can you explain
Speaker 1: in layman's terms what that actually is?
Speaker 2: Yes, the simplest way I know to explain it is
Speaker 2: just like you do exercise for your body, you can
Speaker 2: do exercise for your brain. So there are electrodes on
Speaker 2: the head, but they have no output, no current goes
Speaker 2: through your head. They're just there to pick up the
Speaker 2: brain waves and then that takes the brain waves to
Speaker 2: my screen.
Speaker 3: You're watching a screen.
Speaker 2: It can be as simple as there's games and different
Speaker 2: things that really what you're doing doesn't matter much like
Speaker 2: all of the things have the same outcome. But I
Speaker 2: think a simple way to visualize it is you're looking at.
Speaker 3: A YouTube video.
Speaker 2: The biofeedback equipment puts a filter on the YouTube video.
Speaker 2: When your brain is doing what we want it to do,
Speaker 2: the screen is wide and clear and the volume is strong,
Speaker 2: and that's like telling the brain yes, yes, yes, good job.
Speaker 3: And then when the.
Speaker 2: Brain diverts, does something that's like out of the realm
Speaker 2: of what we desire. The screen closes in, it gets
Speaker 2: a little foggy.
Speaker 3: And the volume diminishes it. So that's like saying no, no, no.
Speaker 2: So all the time you're on there, you're getting a
Speaker 2: series of yeses and nos showing the brain we want
Speaker 2: more of this and less of that.
Speaker 1: How many different types of people do you work with?
Speaker 1: When I say types, I mean autistic, bipolar, ADHD, getsophrenic,
Speaker 1: anything that falls under that mental health umbrella. How many
Speaker 1: of those different types do you actually work with?
Speaker 2: I would say all of them, Like there are things
Speaker 2: that are more or less prevalent in our practice. We
Speaker 2: do see some people with schizophrenia. We do see lots
Speaker 2: of people with anxiety depression, We see a lot of
Speaker 2: people that have autism. We never limit anything. If somebody calls,
Speaker 2: we try to make sure that we put them with
Speaker 2: the best possible person for them.
Speaker 3: So we have them tell us, do you want a man?
Speaker 3: Do you want a woman? What do you want this
Speaker 3: person to be like?
Speaker 2: And some people want somebody older and some people want
Speaker 2: I want someone closer to my age and I'm thirty,
Speaker 2: you know, So we have such a nice variety of counselors.
Speaker 2: We're usually able to really accommodate what people want, and
Speaker 2: sometimes when they tell us, like what their issues are,
Speaker 2: then our staff will say, you know, the best person
Speaker 2: for you is this person? You know, like, I have
Speaker 2: a lot of history with people who have disabilities.
Speaker 3: That's been my life, my whole adult life.
Speaker 2: I've worked with people who are struggling in some way,
Speaker 2: and so if somebody has that issue, oftentimes, I've also
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time with delinquents.
Speaker 3: I enjoy that.
Speaker 2: I feel like somebody needs to love them, somebody needs
Speaker 2: to care about them, but someone also has to stand
Speaker 2: up to them.
Speaker 3: I like doing that.
Speaker 1: Okay, hypothetical, how would you approach someone that is schizophrenic.
Speaker 1: Their brain is telling them something. They may be going
Speaker 1: through antisygnosia. They really don't know that they're doing wrong.
Speaker 1: They think they're doing right, so they're having a plethora
Speaker 1: of issues. How would you handle something like that?
Speaker 2: The first thing I think is you just have to
Speaker 2: build rapport. It's just doing good therapy to begin with.
Speaker 2: If you can get to the person, if you can
Speaker 2: get to the point that the person trusts you and
Speaker 2: is willing to participate, in say bio feedback. Then it
Speaker 2: gets simpler from the standpoint of there's a very thorough
Speaker 2: intake process that helps you narrow down based upon the
Speaker 2: symptoms this person has, and it's really not about a
Speaker 2: diagnosis as much as it is about the groups of
Speaker 2: symptoms together. Can they sleep? Are they stable? Are they
Speaker 2: able to focus?
Speaker 3: Are they able?
Speaker 2: There's like lots and lots of questions, and then those
Speaker 2: questions build a real picture of this is where the
Speaker 2: electrodes should go when you start, and this is what
Speaker 2: we're thinking of in terms of what frequency will start at.
Speaker 2: And then it just becomes a collecting of information from
Speaker 2: them and hopefully a caregiver week by week in our
Speaker 2: case now, but in a case like in restore, it's
Speaker 2: much more fast paced.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what are the opinions of the medical doctors
Speaker 1: in your area regarding your therapy? Are they supportive?
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting when we started here, like about twenty
Speaker 2: five years ago, I would say that people would tell
Speaker 2: us very negative things their doctor said, because they would
Speaker 2: be excited and go to their and say, guess what
Speaker 2: my son sleeps now And he's like, well, it wasn't
Speaker 2: that biofeedback? He just grew out of his insomnia. We
Speaker 2: had things like that, but at this point, locally we've
Speaker 2: felt such a nice reputation that we actually have a
Speaker 2: lot of doctors that come here, we see doctors' kids.
Speaker 2: I feel like it was hard fought that locally we're
Speaker 2: very well thought of and people recognize that we're able
Speaker 2: to help lots of different people with different problems.
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned another business, is that right along with
Speaker 1: this one as well?
Speaker 2: That's the thing I have, this long term bio feedback
Speaker 2: and counseling, and then where I've been at the last
Speaker 2: year is called restore of ADA, and that is the
Speaker 2: fast pace that nine week program tensive in making all
Speaker 2: those shifts, and then the last portion of that is
Speaker 2: called restore Plus. And restore plus is an online forum
Speaker 2: that provides lots of practical information because not everybody can
Speaker 2: come to data and do biofeedback and have this intensive experience.
Speaker 2: But restore plus looks at all the components like diet
Speaker 2: and exercise and how do you spend your time and
Speaker 2: how do you build dopamine, what's the impact of the
Speaker 2: choices that you're making, and how do you reset the
Speaker 2: brain if you're not going to be able to leave
Speaker 2: your home and come to ATA, but you're there at home.
Speaker 2: What kind of practical things can be done to get
Speaker 2: you where you want to go. That's like the final
Speaker 2: component that's open to others as well.
Speaker 3: That wouldn't just be open to people who come here.
Speaker 1: So basically, you have the online, then you have the
Speaker 1: people that come to see you weekly or bi weekly.
Speaker 1: Then you have the intense training.
Speaker 3: Correct correct?
Speaker 1: Okay, you mentioned nutrition, So do you have a dietitian
Speaker 1: or a nutritionless on board and how do you use
Speaker 1: that to help these people get back on track to
Speaker 1: where they need to be.
Speaker 2: The lady that's kind of my right hand that does
Speaker 2: everything with me for me. She started her life as
Speaker 2: a home economics teacher, but then she did advanced studies
Speaker 2: in attachment and resiliency, and then she also has done
Speaker 2: just extensive programs, not university programs, but just online programs
Speaker 2: and sales study programs and nutrition.
Speaker 3: How to get the gut, Like you make.
Speaker 2: More of your hormones and your serotonin and all the
Speaker 2: things you need in your gut than you do your brain.
Speaker 2: Yet we ignore the gut, your brain will be no
Speaker 2: better than your gut. And then when we add the
Speaker 2: factor that we tend to medicate people with medication that
Speaker 2: causes weight gain, chronic constipation, significant gut issues, and then
Speaker 2: we're like surprised they're not better. I have yet to
Speaker 2: find a program that deals with the whole body.
Speaker 3: Feel like that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: When you say a whole body, you've mentioned the gut,
Speaker 1: the brain. Can you give me a picture of what
Speaker 1: this whole body explanidsperiences that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Just as a for instance of some of the things
Speaker 2: we're talking about when people come to us here in Ata,
Speaker 2: we do exercise that relates to releasing trauma that's stored
Speaker 2: in fascia. We also look at different types of exercise
Speaker 2: that you can do, for instance, being on a rebounder
Speaker 2: or a trampoline to get your limp system moving. Your
Speaker 2: limp doesn't have a pump, and if you've done a
Speaker 2: lot of different things, even like just eating food that's
Speaker 2: not clean, you are likely to have poor limp flow
Speaker 2: and that's a huge deal. And then we have PEMF technology,
Speaker 2: which is again about frequencies. I believe that frequency is king.
Speaker 3: We need the input.
Speaker 2: Of better frequencies, especially when we're talking about cell phones
Speaker 2: and towers and all the things that are giving input
Speaker 2: to us. We need to look at all of those things.
Speaker 2: And we also deal with heart rate variability. That's another
Speaker 2: very science driven process that begins to change your nervous system.
Speaker 2: So our goal is, with many different interventions, to create this.
Speaker 3: Reset in the body that allows.
Speaker 2: You, I mean this sounds grandiose, but allows you to
Speaker 2: become what you were created to be.
Speaker 1: So by touching on all these things you just spoke about,
Speaker 1: this goes way beyond what people would consider normal therapy.
Speaker 2: As a therapist, obviously, I think talking works. I talk
Speaker 2: to people all day long for the last twenty five years.
Speaker 2: I believe in therapy. There are a lot of things
Speaker 2: therapy cannot touch, like you will not talk them better.
Speaker 2: You have to give the body something that it needs.
Speaker 2: And oftentimes within our intake process we'll kind of figure
Speaker 2: out like, Okay, this person we're really going to focus
Speaker 2: on that. You know, we'll be looking at what things
Speaker 2: we think are the primary stressors based upon what they
Speaker 2: tell us about their history.
Speaker 3: But we spend that.
Speaker 2: Six weeks and then again that full two weeks just
Speaker 2: with lots of instruction and then restore plus has a
Speaker 2: lot of practical things. We have a section on there
Speaker 2: called do something, and that is just filled with things
Speaker 2: that you could try today, because I think people are
Speaker 2: overwhelmed with what do I do? So we explore what's
Speaker 2: something you can do, what would it look like if
Speaker 2: you did it today? And then we encourage you to
Speaker 2: only do that one thing until you get good at it,
Speaker 2: and then we move to the next thing, and the
Speaker 2: next thing and the next thing.
Speaker 3: People are going to come in at different places.
Speaker 2: I mean I have people show up at my office
Speaker 2: hysterical because they're having panic attacks and they don't know
Speaker 2: why it's happening. Some point I figure out they're drinking
Speaker 2: three monster drinks a day and they.
Speaker 3: Don't drink water.
Speaker 2: It's not rocket science, but in order for me to
Speaker 2: help them, I really need to discontinue the monster drinks
Speaker 2: and add some water.
Speaker 3: You know. And that sounds so simplistic.
Speaker 2: But there are a lot and lots of very simplistic
Speaker 2: things that we need to consider and then begin to
Speaker 2: do something.
Speaker 1: So this nine week process that you do, is this
Speaker 1: a nine week college type situation where they have to
Speaker 1: be there for nine straight weeks?
Speaker 3: No, no, No.
Speaker 2: The first six weeks are at home, and then they
Speaker 2: have two weeks in person. The third week is back
Speaker 2: to your home.
Speaker 3: Now we're going to work with you.
Speaker 2: And talk about how we're integrating this at home, and
Speaker 2: then you have a year follow up with restore plus.
Speaker 1: Once they go through your nine week process. What's that
Speaker 1: for that you say, follow up? If they've learned everything
Speaker 1: in that whole process, what can they expect for any
Speaker 1: future follow ups?
Speaker 2: That's where remember that third component of restore plus. Okay,
Speaker 2: So they have access to all of that information, which
Speaker 2: includes live question and answers frequently during the month with
Speaker 2: my partner and I, which includes workshops additional information that
Speaker 2: is added every week. So there's a good amount of
Speaker 2: base information there right now, but we continue to add
Speaker 2: information about new ways to perceive your health, like what
Speaker 2: else can you do and what's the impact on your
Speaker 2: body if you don't have enough magnesium, what does that
Speaker 2: look like? And what are the foods that have magnesium
Speaker 2: in it that you could add Now, so we are
Speaker 2: constantly going and here's the next thing you.
Speaker 3: Can look at.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you just brought up magnesium. Do you do
Speaker 1: blood tests to check on different levels of different things?
Speaker 1: So that you can always be tweaking things they need
Speaker 1: to do to stay healthy.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like that is out of our scope
Speaker 2: because we are not medical doctors. Our focus is on
Speaker 2: things that we can do. Like we do have a
Speaker 2: section on restore plus call shorts with doctor Shelley, and
Speaker 2: it's a position friend of mine, talking about things from
Speaker 2: a doctor's perspective, talking about gut hell, talking about different
Speaker 2: chemicals in your body and what you can do. We
Speaker 2: try to flut as much information as we can, but
Speaker 2: we're not going to step out of our lane because
Speaker 2: we are not medical doctors.
Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense. Now, how do you make sure
Speaker 1: you get the right balance? You just brought up supplements.
Speaker 1: When you get supplements, some can interact with different supplements,
Speaker 1: some can interact with different medicines. How do you get
Speaker 1: that balance so that there's no issues there?
Speaker 2: We are not really making suggestions. The initial suggestion we
Speaker 2: make is we have a really good line of products
Speaker 2: called Standard Process.
Speaker 3: They grow all their food.
Speaker 2: It's organic and it's like minerals and vitamins and things
Speaker 2: that are just basic things that.
Speaker 3: We need for life.
Speaker 2: Okay, then after that point we're not making suggestions so
Speaker 2: much as providing information. We want you to know this
Speaker 2: is what you need to do, this is what you
Speaker 2: need to know about magnesium, and here are the signs
Speaker 2: in the sinems that you might be deficient. My preference
Speaker 2: would be that you start choosing some foods from this
Speaker 2: list that we're providing and eating them every day, and
Speaker 2: if somebody would like to take a supplement, that will
Speaker 2: be their decision based on what they learn. So it's
Speaker 2: more about us providing information and looking at natural ways
Speaker 2: to do things. I think that our toksin load is
Speaker 2: a big deal. Like people have substances in the air,
Speaker 2: in the food, on their body. So it's like something
Speaker 2: as simple as getting away from a bug spray that
Speaker 2: has ded in it and looking at a product that
Speaker 2: you could make yourself at home with essential oils. You're
Speaker 2: not going to harm yourself, but you're going to potentially
Speaker 2: reduce that toxin load that can be huge for people
Speaker 2: who can't manage toxicity.
Speaker 1: Sure, that makes perfect sense. So basically, you're just feeding
Speaker 1: information let them make the decisions. Than if they need
Speaker 1: supplements or medications, they just call the doctor and then
Speaker 1: they go from there and move forward.
Speaker 3: Correct, we are not physicians.
Speaker 2: People often are getting off of their medications when they
Speaker 2: do about feedback. That is all we are doing is
Speaker 2: encouraging them to go back to their doctor. You know,
Speaker 2: we just help them consider where where are you? Where
Speaker 2: are you? You know? I will talk to people about
Speaker 2: so if you're going to go to your doctor, what
Speaker 2: do you plan to say? I encourage them tell your
Speaker 2: doctor you're doing bio feedback.
Speaker 3: Tell them.
Speaker 2: Often when people do biu feedback, they don't need as
Speaker 2: much medication, or they don't need any medication. They're going
Speaker 2: to have to advocate for themselves. But we do not
Speaker 2: make medical suggestions ever.
Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense. This way, they can go through
Speaker 1: your program, they can figure things out, decide what they need,
Speaker 1: talk with their doctors. Then because of what they're doing
Speaker 1: with you, they can discuss everything with their doctors and
Speaker 1: if they don't need any more, then it's a win
Speaker 1: for everyone.
Speaker 2: Right. We really work at what can you do yourself?
Speaker 2: I mean they're obviously welcome and courage to go see
Speaker 2: a doctor. Bit it's like I think that changes that
Speaker 2: you could make on your own and they become a
Speaker 2: part of your last style are the most powerful things
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