WEBVTT - Dana Hargus: Restore:  biofeedback breakthroughs

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Why Not Me? Embracing Autism and Mental Health Worldwide.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us today is Dana Hargus, LPC. She's the founder

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<v Speaker 1>of Restore of Aida, a biofeedback therapy center in Ada, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>With a background in education and special education along with

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<v Speaker 1>a master's degree in school counseling, Dana transitioned from a

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<v Speaker 1>public school teacher to a dedicated practitioner of biofeedback therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Her journey began with a passion for helping children with

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<v Speaker 1>emotional and learning challenges, leading her to establish Restore of Aida,

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<v Speaker 1>where she focuses on calming the nervous system to address

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<v Speaker 1>issues like add anxiety, depression, and addiction. She empowers clients

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve lasting mental and emotional well being. It's there

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure to have her join us today, so before we

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<v Speaker 1>dive into our episode, we'll be back with an uninterrupted

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<v Speaker 1>show right after a word from our sponsors. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on. Yeah, I'm glad to So tell me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about yourself and how you got started.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was an educator a very long time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I started teaching school in like ninety one,

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<v Speaker 2>and I taught school for about nine years, mostly special education.

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<v Speaker 2>And during that period of time, I was a foster

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<v Speaker 2>and then an adoptive mom, so I was very interested

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<v Speaker 2>in how to help disregulated people because I had them

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<v Speaker 2>living in my house and I spent my day with

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<v Speaker 2>them in the classroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>During that period of time, I got interested in biofeedback

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<v Speaker 2>as an intervention for my own son, one of my

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<v Speaker 2>adopted kids. And as I worked through that and began

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<v Speaker 2>to try to figure out how I could do it myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I figured out first of all that there were only

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<v Speaker 2>two people.

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<v Speaker 3>In Oklahoma doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>They were both private pay and I didn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>money to get him what he needed. But it really

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<v Speaker 2>intrigued me all the things I found out when I

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<v Speaker 2>was researching and visiting with people and calling places, and

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, I was working on a master's and

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of sped things up and got my

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<v Speaker 2>master's in counseling and went under supervision and became a

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<v Speaker 2>licensed counselor here in Oklahoma with the thought, as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as I have this license in hand, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go and do this bio feedback training see if I

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<v Speaker 2>can help my own son. And at that point I

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<v Speaker 2>stopped being a teacher and I was going to just

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<v Speaker 2>become a counselor. So I did that and was able

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<v Speaker 2>to do a lot of cool stuff with him, and

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time in his life, he was able

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<v Speaker 2>to go to school without them calling me and without medication.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was really great, and that was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the start of a new journey, and I entered into

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<v Speaker 2>this career that I've had now for the last twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years.

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<v Speaker 1>So that led you to opening a company now, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I have two companies.

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<v Speaker 2>The first company is my counseling agency and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a private practice here in Ada, and we have like

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<v Speaker 2>a little substation and more which is close to Norman, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>We have thirteen counselors and we schedule over one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>appointments a month and we do bio feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you have all these counselors, Let's focus on

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<v Speaker 1>that part of it first, right with all the counselors

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<v Speaker 1>that work with you. In your bio it says you

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<v Speaker 1>cover autism, ADHD, schizophrenia, bipolar, a lot of different things

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<v Speaker 1>that fall under the mental health umbrella. So what is

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<v Speaker 1>it that you cover or is there anything that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't cover?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you think about it, I think, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>if you live in a town, our town is probably

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five thousand people in the town proper, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's lots of little towns around us that we pull from.

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<v Speaker 3>What we focus on is what walks through the door.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. It's like, if you go to Dallas, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can probably make a career of seeing women between the

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<v Speaker 2>ages of thirty and fifty with anxiety and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you're been Ada, that isn't really the way

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<v Speaker 2>it works. So we've had an opportunity for a long

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<v Speaker 2>time to get to figure out how do you deal

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<v Speaker 2>with all these different demographics and where that has led me.

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<v Speaker 2>For probably twenty years, I've known I want to move

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<v Speaker 2>out of where I'm at someday, and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>move into intensive treatment that is more whole body. In counseling,

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<v Speaker 2>you tend to see people once a week, maybe twice

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<v Speaker 2>a week, and we make great progress.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not unhappy with where I'm at or what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just know that in terms of mental health, especially

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<v Speaker 2>mental health for people that are really struggling, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like our current systems are a fail.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious where do you think it's failing.

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<v Speaker 2>Impatient care is not appropriate. It will keep you alive

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody is going to die, it's very good too,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if somebody's drinking themselves to death, they can sober up,

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<v Speaker 2>they can get some help, they can be protected. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like impatient care for children is unbelievably inadequate,

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<v Speaker 2>and for most adults as well. They come out over

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<v Speaker 2>medicated and struggling, often more than when they went in.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we look at all the medications and all

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<v Speaker 2>the things that we're doing to try to help people,

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<v Speaker 2>and what I see is that they don't work.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you've got to address the whole body.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point in my past, I thought, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>am going to open a mental hospital. That was my plan,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started checking into that looking and then in

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<v Speaker 2>the end, I thought, do I really want to spend

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes total sense. That's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>I've worked all my life to get out of debt,

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<v Speaker 2>to get where I am in this nice stable position,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have a lot of grandkids, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>a good life, and I don't want to tie myself

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<v Speaker 2>so hard to something that I lose what I have.

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<v Speaker 3>So kind of went by the wayside.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I thought, I'm going to open a boy's home,

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<v Speaker 2>and I begin to try to navigate that.

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<v Speaker 3>With our states.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you find there? Anything better?

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<v Speaker 2>They won't even pay me enough to do it right.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew what I needed to do. I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>find a way to make it break even, so then

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<v Speaker 2>to let that go.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've been letting things go a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>So finally I arrived at my current model that I

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<v Speaker 2>knew would work. Then I just had to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how to make a go of it, and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I have. Okay, what did you come up with?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a whole bodied approach that centers around bio feedback.

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<v Speaker 2>But people start about six weeks before they come to

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<v Speaker 2>Ada in their home, and I have a lady that

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<v Speaker 2>works with me. She begins to work with them to

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<v Speaker 2>get them to begin to make lifestyle changes depending on

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<v Speaker 2>where they are, depends on where you start.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give an example of what you're talking about there?

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<v Speaker 2>Things as simple as a shift in the diet and

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<v Speaker 2>what are we going to do to improve gut hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Also the impact of attachment on her whole life. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that is so often ignored. Look at what

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<v Speaker 2>supplements might be helpful. So they get things from us

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<v Speaker 2>in the mail. For six weeks, we work with them

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<v Speaker 2>online to prepare them to be as ready as they

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<v Speaker 2>can when they get to Ada.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that sounds good, So what's next? After that?

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<v Speaker 3>They run to Ada?

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<v Speaker 2>They're here for two weeks and they receive five months

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<v Speaker 2>of bive feedback in two weeks. So you're getting a

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<v Speaker 2>AM and a PM session every day. And also during

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<v Speaker 2>that time, we have all these other interventions that begin

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<v Speaker 2>to work on resetting your nervous system.

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<v Speaker 1>What type of results are you seeing from this?

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<v Speaker 2>The outcome is astounding because if you think, how would

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<v Speaker 2>you like to learn something?

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<v Speaker 3>If you were going to learn to play the piano

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<v Speaker 3>and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were going to do it an hour a week every week,

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<v Speaker 2>or in this case, it would even be just thirty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes because we do counseling and conjunction with BIW feedback,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not like they get a whole hour of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to do thirty minutes a week, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do forty five minutes twice a day. In the end,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to take you five months to catch up

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<v Speaker 2>with the number of treatments I get in ten days.

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<v Speaker 2>But what that really does is it trains the brain

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<v Speaker 2>in such a rapid way.

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<v Speaker 3>The brain is eager to learn, it's eager to check.

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<v Speaker 3>So you begin to address things like insomnia and anxiety

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<v Speaker 3>and anger and overthinking and attentional problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds like a very good plan.

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<v Speaker 2>You just meet the brain where it is, and most

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<v Speaker 2>of the time the goal is to really calm things

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<v Speaker 2>down and then when people are not with me, they're

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<v Speaker 2>with my colleague, and we have some other employees that we.

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<v Speaker 3>Work on other aspects of this.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we take these changes and go back home

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<v Speaker 2>with them?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when you say biofeedback, there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of listeners to say, what, right, can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>in layman's terms what that actually is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the simplest way I know to explain it is

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<v Speaker 2>just like you do exercise for your body, you can

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<v Speaker 2>do exercise for your brain. So there are electrodes on

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<v Speaker 2>the head, but they have no output, no current goes

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<v Speaker 2>through your head. They're just there to pick up the

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<v Speaker 2>brain waves and then that takes the brain waves to

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<v Speaker 2>my screen.

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<v Speaker 3>You're watching a screen.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be as simple as there's games and different

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<v Speaker 2>things that really what you're doing doesn't matter much like

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<v Speaker 2>all of the things have the same outcome. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think a simple way to visualize it is you're looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>A YouTube video.

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<v Speaker 2>The biofeedback equipment puts a filter on the YouTube video.

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<v Speaker 2>When your brain is doing what we want it to do,

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<v Speaker 2>the screen is wide and clear and the volume is strong,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's like telling the brain yes, yes, yes, good job.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when the.

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<v Speaker 2>Brain diverts, does something that's like out of the realm

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<v Speaker 2>of what we desire. The screen closes in, it gets

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<v Speaker 2>a little foggy.

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<v Speaker 3>And the volume diminishes it. So that's like saying no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>So all the time you're on there, you're getting a

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<v Speaker 2>series of yeses and nos showing the brain we want

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<v Speaker 2>more of this and less of that.

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<v Speaker 1>How many different types of people do you work with?

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<v Speaker 1>When I say types, I mean autistic, bipolar, ADHD, getsophrenic,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that falls under that mental health umbrella. How many

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<v Speaker 1>of those different types do you actually work with?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say all of them, Like there are things

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<v Speaker 2>that are more or less prevalent in our practice. We

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<v Speaker 2>do see some people with schizophrenia. We do see lots

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<v Speaker 2>of people with anxiety depression, We see a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that have autism. We never limit anything. If somebody calls,

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<v Speaker 2>we try to make sure that we put them with

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<v Speaker 2>the best possible person for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have them tell us, do you want a man?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want a woman? What do you want this

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<v Speaker 3>person to be like?

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<v Speaker 2>And some people want somebody older and some people want

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<v Speaker 2>I want someone closer to my age and I'm thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So we have such a nice variety of counselors.

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<v Speaker 2>We're usually able to really accommodate what people want, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes when they tell us, like what their issues are,

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<v Speaker 2>then our staff will say, you know, the best person

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<v Speaker 2>for you is this person? You know, like, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of history with people who have disabilities.

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<v Speaker 3>That's been my life, my whole adult life.

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<v Speaker 2>I've worked with people who are struggling in some way,

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<v Speaker 2>and so if somebody has that issue, oftentimes, I've also

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<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of time with delinquents.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy that.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like somebody needs to love them, somebody needs

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<v Speaker 2>to care about them, but someone also has to stand

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<v Speaker 2>up to them.

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<v Speaker 3>I like doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hypothetical, how would you approach someone that is schizophrenic.

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<v Speaker 1>Their brain is telling them something. They may be going

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<v Speaker 1>through antisygnosia. They really don't know that they're doing wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They think they're doing right, so they're having a plethora

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<v Speaker 1>of issues. How would you handle something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing I think is you just have to

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<v Speaker 2>build rapport. It's just doing good therapy to begin with.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can get to the person, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get to the point that the person trusts you and

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<v Speaker 2>is willing to participate, in say bio feedback. Then it

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<v Speaker 2>gets simpler from the standpoint of there's a very thorough

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<v Speaker 2>intake process that helps you narrow down based upon the

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<v Speaker 2>symptoms this person has, and it's really not about a

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<v Speaker 2>diagnosis as much as it is about the groups of

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<v Speaker 2>symptoms together. Can they sleep? Are they stable? Are they

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<v Speaker 2>able to focus?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they able?

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<v Speaker 2>There's like lots and lots of questions, and then those

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<v Speaker 2>questions build a real picture of this is where the

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<v Speaker 2>electrodes should go when you start, and this is what

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<v Speaker 2>we're thinking of in terms of what frequency will start at.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it just becomes a collecting of information from

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<v Speaker 2>them and hopefully a caregiver week by week in our

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<v Speaker 2>case now, but in a case like in restore, it's

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<v Speaker 2>much more fast paced.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what are the opinions of the medical doctors

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<v Speaker 1>in your area regarding your therapy? Are they supportive?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's interesting when we started here, like about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years ago, I would say that people would tell

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<v Speaker 2>us very negative things their doctor said, because they would

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<v Speaker 2>be excited and go to their and say, guess what

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<v Speaker 2>my son sleeps now And he's like, well, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that biofeedback? He just grew out of his insomnia. We

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<v Speaker 2>had things like that, but at this point, locally we've

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<v Speaker 2>felt such a nice reputation that we actually have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of doctors that come here, we see doctors' kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it was hard fought that locally we're

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<v Speaker 2>very well thought of and people recognize that we're able

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<v Speaker 2>to help lots of different people with different problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you mentioned another business, is that right along with

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<v Speaker 1>this one as well?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing I have, this long term bio feedback

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<v Speaker 2>and counseling, and then where I've been at the last

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<v Speaker 2>year is called restore of ADA, and that is the

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<v Speaker 2>fast pace that nine week program tensive in making all

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<v Speaker 2>those shifts, and then the last portion of that is

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<v Speaker 2>called restore Plus. And restore plus is an online forum

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<v Speaker 2>that provides lots of practical information because not everybody can

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<v Speaker 2>come to data and do biofeedback and have this intensive experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But restore plus looks at all the components like diet

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<v Speaker 2>and exercise and how do you spend your time and

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<v Speaker 2>how do you build dopamine, what's the impact of the

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<v Speaker 2>choices that you're making, and how do you reset the

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<v Speaker 2>brain if you're not going to be able to leave

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<v Speaker 2>your home and come to ATA, but you're there at home.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of practical things can be done to get

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<v Speaker 2>you where you want to go. That's like the final

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<v Speaker 2>component that's open to others as well.

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<v Speaker 3>That wouldn't just be open to people who come here.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, you have the online, then you have the

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<v Speaker 1>people that come to see you weekly or bi weekly.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have the intense training.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you mentioned nutrition, So do you have a dietitian

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<v Speaker 1>or a nutritionless on board and how do you use

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<v Speaker 1>that to help these people get back on track to

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<v Speaker 1>where they need to be.

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<v Speaker 2>The lady that's kind of my right hand that does

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<v Speaker 2>everything with me for me. She started her life as

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<v Speaker 2>a home economics teacher, but then she did advanced studies

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<v Speaker 2>in attachment and resiliency, and then she also has done

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<v Speaker 2>just extensive programs, not university programs, but just online programs

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<v Speaker 2>and sales study programs and nutrition.

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<v Speaker 3>How to get the gut, Like you make.

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<v Speaker 2>More of your hormones and your serotonin and all the

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<v Speaker 2>things you need in your gut than you do your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet we ignore the gut, your brain will be no

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<v Speaker 2>better than your gut. And then when we add the

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<v Speaker 2>factor that we tend to medicate people with medication that

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<v Speaker 2>causes weight gain, chronic constipation, significant gut issues, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we're like surprised they're not better. I have yet to

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<v Speaker 2>find a program that deals with the whole body.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like that's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say a whole body, you've mentioned the gut,

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<v Speaker 1>the brain. Can you give me a picture of what

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<v Speaker 1>this whole body explanidsperiences that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Just as a for instance of some of the things

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about when people come to us here in Ata,

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<v Speaker 2>we do exercise that relates to releasing trauma that's stored

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<v Speaker 2>in fascia. We also look at different types of exercise

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<v Speaker 2>that you can do, for instance, being on a rebounder

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<v Speaker 2>or a trampoline to get your limp system moving. Your

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<v Speaker 2>limp doesn't have a pump, and if you've done a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different things, even like just eating food that's

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<v Speaker 2>not clean, you are likely to have poor limp flow

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a huge deal. And then we have PEMF technology,

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<v Speaker 2>which is again about frequencies. I believe that frequency is king.

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<v Speaker 3>We need the input.

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<v Speaker 2>Of better frequencies, especially when we're talking about cell phones

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<v Speaker 2>and towers and all the things that are giving input

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<v Speaker 2>to us. We need to look at all of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>And we also deal with heart rate variability. That's another

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<v Speaker 2>very science driven process that begins to change your nervous system.

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<v Speaker 2>So our goal is, with many different interventions, to create this.

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<v Speaker 3>Reset in the body that allows.

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<v Speaker 2>You, I mean this sounds grandiose, but allows you to

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<v Speaker 2>become what you were created to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So by touching on all these things you just spoke about,

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<v Speaker 1>this goes way beyond what people would consider normal therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>As a therapist, obviously, I think talking works. I talk

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<v Speaker 2>to people all day long for the last twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in therapy. There are a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>therapy cannot touch, like you will not talk them better.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to give the body something that it needs.

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<v Speaker 2>And oftentimes within our intake process we'll kind of figure

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<v Speaker 2>out like, Okay, this person we're really going to focus

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<v Speaker 2>on that. You know, we'll be looking at what things

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<v Speaker 2>we think are the primary stressors based upon what they

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<v Speaker 2>tell us about their history.

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<v Speaker 3>But we spend that.

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<v Speaker 2>Six weeks and then again that full two weeks just

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<v Speaker 2>with lots of instruction and then restore plus has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of practical things. We have a section on there

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<v Speaker 2>called do something, and that is just filled with things

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<v Speaker 2>that you could try today, because I think people are

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelmed with what do I do? So we explore what's

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<v Speaker 2>something you can do, what would it look like if

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<v Speaker 2>you did it today? And then we encourage you to

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<v Speaker 2>only do that one thing until you get good at it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we move to the next thing, and the

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<v Speaker 2>next thing and the next thing.

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<v Speaker 3>People are going to come in at different places.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I have people show up at my office

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<v Speaker 2>hysterical because they're having panic attacks and they don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why it's happening. Some point I figure out they're drinking

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<v Speaker 2>three monster drinks a day and they.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't drink water.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not rocket science, but in order for me to

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<v Speaker 2>help them, I really need to discontinue the monster drinks

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<v Speaker 2>and add some water.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. And that sounds so simplistic.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are a lot and lots of very simplistic

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<v Speaker 2>things that we need to consider and then begin to

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<v Speaker 2>do something.

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<v Speaker 1>So this nine week process that you do, is this

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<v Speaker 1>a nine week college type situation where they have to

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<v Speaker 1>be there for nine straight weeks?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, No.

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<v Speaker 2>The first six weeks are at home, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>have two weeks in person. The third week is back

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<v Speaker 2>to your home.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're going to work with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And talk about how we're integrating this at home, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have a year follow up with restore plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Once they go through your nine week process. What's that

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<v Speaker 1>for that you say, follow up? If they've learned everything

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<v Speaker 1>in that whole process, what can they expect for any

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<v Speaker 1>future follow ups?

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<v Speaker 2>That's where remember that third component of restore plus. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So they have access to all of that information, which

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<v Speaker 2>includes live question and answers frequently during the month with

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<v Speaker 2>my partner and I, which includes workshops additional information that

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<v Speaker 2>is added every week. So there's a good amount of

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<v Speaker 2>base information there right now, but we continue to add

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<v Speaker 2>information about new ways to perceive your health, like what

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<v Speaker 2>else can you do and what's the impact on your

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<v Speaker 2>body if you don't have enough magnesium, what does that

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<v Speaker 2>look like? And what are the foods that have magnesium

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<v Speaker 2>in it that you could add Now, so we are

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<v Speaker 2>constantly going and here's the next thing you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can look at.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you just brought up magnesium. Do you do

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<v Speaker 1>blood tests to check on different levels of different things?

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<v Speaker 1>So that you can always be tweaking things they need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I feel like that is out of our scope

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<v Speaker 2>because we are not medical doctors. Our focus is on

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<v Speaker 2>things that we can do. Like we do have a

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<v Speaker 2>section on restore plus call shorts with doctor Shelley, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a position friend of mine, talking about things from

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor's perspective, talking about gut hell, talking about different

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.119
<v Speaker 2>chemicals in your body and what you can do. We

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<v Speaker 2>try to flut as much information as we can, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to step out of our lane because

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<v Speaker 2>we are not medical doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes perfect sense. Now, how do you make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you get the right balance? You just brought up supplements.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get supplements, some can interact with different supplements,

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<v Speaker 1>some can interact with different medicines. How do you get

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<v Speaker 1>that balance so that there's no issues there?

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<v Speaker 2>We are not really making suggestions. The initial suggestion we

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<v Speaker 2>make is we have a really good line of products

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<v Speaker 2>called Standard Process.

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<v Speaker 3>They grow all their food.

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<v Speaker 2>It's organic and it's like minerals and vitamins and things

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<v Speaker 2>that are just basic things that.

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<v Speaker 3>We need for life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, then after that point we're not making suggestions so

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<v Speaker 2>much as providing information. We want you to know this

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<v Speaker 2>is what you need to do, this is what you

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<v Speaker 2>need to know about magnesium, and here are the signs

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.399
<v Speaker 2>in the sinems that you might be deficient. My preference

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<v Speaker 2>would be that you start choosing some foods from this

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 2>list that we're providing and eating them every day, and

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody would like to take a supplement, that will

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<v Speaker 2>be their decision based on what they learn. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>more about us providing information and looking at natural ways

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<v Speaker 2>to do things. I think that our toksin load is

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal. Like people have substances in the air,

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<v Speaker 2>in the food, on their body. So it's like something

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<v Speaker 2>as simple as getting away from a bug spray that

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<v Speaker 2>has ded in it and looking at a product that

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 2>you could make yourself at home with essential oils. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to harm yourself, but you're going to potentially

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<v Speaker 2>reduce that toxin load that can be huge for people

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<v Speaker 2>who can't manage toxicity.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, that makes perfect sense. So basically, you're just feeding

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<v Speaker 1>information let them make the decisions. Than if they need

0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>supplements or medications, they just call the doctor and then

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<v Speaker 1>they go from there and move forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, we are not physicians.

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<v Speaker 2>People often are getting off of their medications when they

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<v Speaker 2>do about feedback. That is all we are doing is

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 2>encouraging them to go back to their doctor. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we just help them consider where where are you? Where

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<v Speaker 2>are you? You know? I will talk to people about

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<v Speaker 2>so if you're going to go to your doctor, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you plan to say? I encourage them tell your

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<v Speaker 2>doctor you're doing bio feedback.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell them.

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<v Speaker 2>Often when people do biu feedback, they don't need as

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<v Speaker 2>much medication, or they don't need any medication. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to advocate for themselves. But we do not

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<v Speaker 2>make medical suggestions ever.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes perfect sense. This way, they can go through

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<v Speaker 1>your program, they can figure things out, decide what they need,

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<v Speaker 1>talk with their doctors. Then because of what they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>with you, they can discuss everything with their doctors and

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't need any more, then it's a win

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. We really work at what can you do yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're obviously welcome and courage to go see

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor. Bit it's like I think that changes that

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<v Speaker 2>you could make on your own and they become a

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<v Speaker 2>part of your last style are the most powerful things

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<v Speaker 2>you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, just like a plant based diet can help you,

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<v Speaker 1>It can change everything right. The next question is how

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<v Speaker 1>do people contact you and how do they find you.

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<v Speaker 2>My website is Restore of Aida dot com. Phone number

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<v Speaker 2>is five ah oh four five three one oh seven six.

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<v Speaker 2>Our email is contact at Restore of Ada.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good, Well, this has been great information, great conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you taking the time to join us today.

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<v Speaker 3>Well thanks for having me.

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