1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Welcome Together Everything, So don't don't hello Hello, Let's do 3 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: it Hi. Welcome back to the Worst Year Ever in perpetuity. 4 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: D mc r. Thank you so much for welcoming me 5 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: of coorse yere ever, thank you, Hie for the year, 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: for the year that you gave. You are You're the 7 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: ones who gave us this year, So thank you. A 8 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: lot of people think we are the ones that gave 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: us all this year, or specifically you are, Robert you 10 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: are well are the term that everybody rips off now 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: because of US NPR someone else probably yep yep NPR 12 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: who we are in the process of suing. We have 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: retain into the services of Johnny Cochrane, which took a 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: lot of necromancy, I mean some real black magic ship. 15 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: We had to sacrifice. Well I don't want to. I 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: don't want to get into the different things we had 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: to sacrifice because the Federal I mean, we can we 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: can credit stuff cut there, but say that, say we 19 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: had a sacrifice and we can bleep it maybe like 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: half a school bus worth of kids, like not that 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: many really and they were like, you know, it was 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: it wasn't a good school anyway, and it was also 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: like attendance was low because of the pandemic. Yeah, nowhere good. Hi, 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm Cody Johnston. What's everybody else's fucking name? God damn it? 25 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: I Robert Johnston. Perfect, I'm Kathleen Roberston. All real names. Hey, 26 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: So we've been doing this thing where we're making fun 27 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: of Ben Shapira's terrible books, which have gone on for 28 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: quite a while because I don't know about you, guys, 29 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: but I hate doing my job. Also, I have a 30 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: daily news podcast, and you guys have what you do 31 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: at least one podcast a week, and then you have 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: the show. We've got the YouTube show, which is quite 33 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: a lot of work as well, buried in the news constantly, 34 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: and so it's just fun to laugh fun. It's terrible. 35 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed that's listening. They're very bad. Yeah, 36 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: they're very very Making fun of them makes us happy. Uh. 37 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: This show has definitely gone off of some rails and 38 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: onto a completely different set of rails, and what we're 39 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: all fine with it. Some people have said that they 40 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: still want some news, So this episode, we're gonna give 41 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: you some news, and then we're gonna get back Ben Shapiro, 42 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: so the real good news. We'll do both, um. But 43 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: also if you want more news from us, my god, 44 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: you have so many options, so many places about the news. 45 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: It's been a minute, but we guessed on each other's shows. 46 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: It's like there's very little responsible amount of content. Yeah, 47 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: and and it's for you to consume, um. And it's 48 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: I I understand. It's strange you didn't sign up for 49 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro book Club, Baby, but you didn't really sign 50 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: for anything because it is just a podcast. You don't 51 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: have to sign. You don't have to sign. That's the 52 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: beauty of it. So we did. We did, We did sign. 53 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: We have some contracts. Speaking of contractual obligations, pivot. When 54 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union fell in early ninety one or whatever, Uh, 55 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: there was this new country that hadn't been a country 56 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: for a while called Ukraine. In Ukraine, not the Ukraine. No, 57 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: not the Ukraine, Ukraine, it's a proper name. Um. Ukraine. 58 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: In addition to being newly country, UM had a funkload 59 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: of nukes, like a bunch of nukes, like more nukes 60 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: than most countries with nukes have, just because that's where 61 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of them had been you know, when the 62 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: Cold War kind of came to a very sudden end, 63 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: and there were a lot of questions that people in 64 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Ukraine had, like, oh, boy, do we want to have 65 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: all these nukes? It seems like nuclear stuff doesn't always 66 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: go great with Ukrainians, like, seems like we've had some 67 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: problems related things in the past. In the US and 68 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: NATO were like, hey, guys, you know, we don't think 69 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: there's it's good for there to be more countries with nukes. Uh, 70 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: why don't you give those nukes to us? And Ukraine 71 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: was like, well, we don't necessarily want nukes, but also 72 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: everyone around us historically murders us every like twenty years 73 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: or so, Like every twenty years, everyone around Ukraine murders 74 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: all of the people there. That's like been going on 75 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: for the last hundred years or so. Not quite that often, 76 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: but it happens a lot. Everyone murders all of the 77 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: people in Ukraine pretty regularly, and so the people who 78 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: were in Ukraine when the Soviet Union fell were like, well, 79 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: maybe we want those nukes because it does kind of 80 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: seem like when countries have nukes, they don't get murdered 81 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: as often. At least by people outside of them, right, 82 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: it seems like maybe there's some protection from the outside 83 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: world when you have a funkload of nukes. And NATO 84 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: was like, hey, guy, like relax, you give us your 85 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: nukes and we're NATO, like we just want we've got 86 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: all these fucking ship Yeah, well we'll we'll well, we'll 87 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: watch your back, like, well, we will guarantee your territorial integrity, 88 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: like you've got nothing to worry about, just Hannis those nukes, 89 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: and Ukraine was like, you know what, the responsible thing, 90 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: the hopeful thing, the decent thing is as a member 91 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: of the international community, is for us to have there 92 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: be one less nuclear power here you go, will trust you. 93 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: And then the instance somebody threatened Ukraine's borders, NATO was like, oh, 94 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: you guys wanted us to like do stuff now, So 95 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: now that happened, it's and it's a whole mess. Like 96 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: the gist of of how the current crisis started as that, 97 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: in like two fourteen, there was this president of Ukraine, Yanukovich, 98 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: who tried to do the president becoming a dictator thing 99 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: through using the police to brutally crack down on dissent 100 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: and and all that kind of stuff, you know, things 101 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: we all experienced versions of pretty recently. UM. And it 102 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: didn't go great for him. There was a big protest. 103 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: It was a very politically complicated protest. UM. It was like, 104 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of messy ship going on. Politically, 105 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: Ukraine has definitely a Nazi problem UM, which is a 106 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: serious problem that the government has made some serious failures on. 107 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: For Basically, after they kicked the president out, Russia invades, 108 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: takes crimea props up this quote unquote separatist movements UM 109 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: and takes a chunk of the eastern part of the country. 110 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: And ever since, for the last nearly a decade, there's 111 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: been kind of a low intensity, although some would dispute 112 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: the low um, but but low intensity at least compared 113 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: to like the death toll of something like the Syrian 114 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: Civil War war in eastern Ukraine. UM, and the battle 115 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: lines have not moved a lot since like or so 116 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: has not been a tremendous amount of movement. UM. And 117 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: now we're in this situation where recently the Russian government 118 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: has started massing I think something like a hundred and 119 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: thirty thousand troops on the Ukrainian border. Um. There's kind 120 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: of debate as to how much Belarus, which is the 121 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Belarishan border is like fifty miles something like that from Kiev, 122 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: the capital of Ukraine. UM, and they're very close with 123 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: with Russia. UM. What happened in Kazakhstan, which which is 124 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: in Russia's fear of influence, in which they sent a 125 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: bunch of troops into along with some of their allies, 126 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: like disrupted things and it's it's been kind of a 127 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: messy period. But most people who know anything about the area, 128 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: including like most of the conflict journalists I know who 129 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: have been there way more often than I have and 130 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: who know more than I have, are fairly certain that 131 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: there's going to be some kind of invasion soon. There's 132 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: a lot of debate as to whether or not they 133 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: think Russia is going to try to like actually take 134 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Kiev like a whole let's eliminate Ukraine is an independent nation, 135 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: and you know whatever it kind of vg government gets 136 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: propped up or if it's their plans are kind of 137 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: more limited. We want to like take some of these 138 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: these towns or suburbs around uh De Nettes. We want 139 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: to take Constant and if Quebec, like there's a lot 140 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: of of kind of everyone wondering the extinct, which what 141 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: Russia's designs are. Most people are in agreement that there's 142 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: probably going to be an invasion soon. I'm actually not 143 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: as certain as most people. But that said, I want 144 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: to be really clear. People who know a lot more 145 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: than me are much more convinced that there's going to 146 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: be an invasion. I would have to be really soon, right, 147 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: because from what I'm understanding, you have to move at 148 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: a certain point otherwise they will get stuck in mud. Well, 149 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: you know the elements of invasion, like a time always 150 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: a factor with war, and there's a There's a few 151 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: things going on kind of logistically. One of them is 152 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: that it's expensive to keep a shipload of troops mobilized 153 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: on the border of another country, right, and Russia is 154 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: not made of money. Their economy is not doing great, 155 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: um it is. They very expensive. There's a lot of also, 156 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: like so basically what's going on in the situation is 157 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: going on right now, Russia's got all these troops massed 158 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: on the border, and they're kind of like making a 159 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: set of um they they wouldn't really frame them as demands, 160 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't think too to NATO. But it's it's like 161 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: a set of demands basically to that NATO UM pull 162 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: troops out of a bunch of area places like even 163 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Poland like that are kind of near Russia. UM. And 164 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: you know, there's some other things which is not going 165 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: to happen. The US isn't gonna pull troops out of 166 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: a number of the countries um, Georgia, UM and um. UM. Gosh, 167 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm spacing on one of the others. UM. But there's 168 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: places they want the US and NATO to pull troops 169 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: out of that is not going to happen. There's aid 170 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: they want the West to stop delivering to Ukraine. I 171 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen. There are some areas 172 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: where there's more room for actual negotiations, including like the 173 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: US has stated that they're willing to talk about removing offensive, 174 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: particularly missile based weapons from a lot of areas near 175 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: the Russian border. UM. Anyway, So there's there's a mix 176 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: of things that like there's really no chance of movement 177 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: on and things that like, yeah, they might they might 178 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: actually be able to come to an accord. UM. I 179 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: am less convinced than some people that there's going to 180 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: be an invasion UM. And and and that's really just kind 181 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: of like I it's a really risky move for the 182 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: Russian government. UM. Straight up, in a fight, Russia beats Ukraine. UM. 183 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: They're just much bigger, they have a much better indigenous 184 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: arms industry. UM, they have a longer logistical tail, they 185 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: have a military that's a lot larger. But Ukraine is 186 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: militarily not a pushover. And this would not be so. 187 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Russia's spent most of our adult lives UM engaged in 188 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: a number of low level conflicts, low level to them 189 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: by their standards, certainly not to the people in the area, 190 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: in places like Libya and Syria UM and then recently 191 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: UM in Armenia. UH. And these these kind of conflicts 192 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: have been primarily for them, in addition to kind of 193 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: some geopolitical goals, a way to test different new weapons systems. UM. 194 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of specifically different kinds of 195 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: like missiles, different kind of drone based systems, different kind 196 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: of like weapons systems like a g t M s 197 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: that they've been figuring out battle doctrine for and testing 198 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: in the field UM, both to equip their own forces 199 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: and to you know, sell to other militaries around the world, 200 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: and so Russia's got experience, a lot of experience and 201 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: is very well equipped for fighting a specific kind of 202 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: conflict that this won't be because Ukraine is is not 203 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: a peer when it comes to certainly air power, but 204 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: is a near peer force um, which means they have 205 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: access to most of the same advanced kind of weapons 206 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: systems in some cases maybe even some superior weapons systems. 207 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: They don't have the kind of air power that Rush 208 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: should be able to bring to bear, but they do 209 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: have anti air defenses, which is something that the Russian 210 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: Air Force is not dealt with to the same extent 211 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: that they will be in drain. We would be arming 212 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: them from what we are are it. We would continue, 213 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: but like there's a commitment of more things and more. 214 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: To the point, the Ukrainian military has had nearly a decade. 215 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: They were kind of a basket case as a force 216 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: when the war started. They've had a lot of fighting 217 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: experience at this point, and it would be ugly. It 218 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: would be so that that there's a lot of risk 219 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: to Russia because it would be a fucking nightmare probably. 220 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there's always this possibility it happens and they 221 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: roll right through. And you know, history has surprises for us. 222 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: But I think most people who know anything about war 223 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: are expecting that if there is a full on, kind 224 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: of unlimited engagement with the existence of the Ukrainian nation 225 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: kind of at at stake, it's going to be really 226 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: fucking nasty. Um. And there's a big question in my 227 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: mind as to like, well, what's the benefit Is the 228 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: possible benefit of of engaging in that kind of situation 229 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: worth it to Putin because it's it's going to be 230 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: tremendously expensive. It's going to cost probably a lot in 231 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: terms of order because Russia is already having, as we 232 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: saw with Kazakhstan, problems with these you know, and and 233 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: Belarus just went through this massive which is a major alley. 234 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: There's in the massive series of protests and uprisings. So 235 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't think he's always wanted this. 236 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: This has always been Putin's big thing, the big and 237 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: this is that there's that there is that this is 238 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: not the first time there have been troops massed on 239 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian border. It's just a mess, and nobody really 240 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: knows what's going to go down, um, But it's certainly 241 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: an incredibly tense and potentially really really bad situation, because 242 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: it's not impossible that a war between Russia and Ukraine 243 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: that escalates to that extent could Poland surrounding nations and 244 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: could lead to something really bad. Um. And there's you know, 245 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: to some extent to which it would be difficult for 246 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: Russia to walk back because they did stuff like kind 247 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: of uncapped their tactical nuclear weapons, which is like a 248 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: big sign that you're you're preparing for aggression, and just 249 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: all of this without getting any kind of concessions at all. 250 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: There's a question my mind as to whether or not 251 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: like Putin would be willing to like take the kind 252 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: of hit to the national prestige that that would that 253 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: would endeavor. Um, I hope nothing happens, And that maybe 254 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: why I'm kind of less convinced that something is going 255 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: to happen, because I just I keep thinking about the 256 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: people that I met over there, who you know, were 257 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: exhausted of the war a year and a half in 258 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: and after seven more years, I'm sure I just just done. Uh, 259 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: And I don't want them to have to deal with 260 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: any of this. But anyway, that's that is probably a 261 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: responsible overview of of yeah, happening in Ukraine right now, um, 262 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: and what might happen in the near future, I hope. 263 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: So it's certainly not qualified. It's certainly yeah, me neither 264 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: um scary And I like your attitude and outlook of 265 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: hoping nothing happens, because it would be a big deal obviously, 266 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: um and potentially very bad for Russia. But it does 267 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: make me very nervous and it um and that fucking 268 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: would happen. We would enter World War three a in 269 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: the middle of a pandemic. Well, you know, I don't know. 270 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: There's one possibility is a more limited war where some 271 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: of the like Estonia and and uh, Georgia get involved 272 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: on Ukraine's side, and there's like and and Belarusk gets 273 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: involved and and and so it's more geographically limited than 274 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: World War Three. But it becomes this huge proxy struggle 275 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: in the West, start flooding and weapons and like you 276 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: start seeing maybe death tolls like the Iran Iraq or 277 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: something where you've got but also hundreds of thousands dying. 278 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: There's just so many far reaching implications even for that. 279 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Or we're talking refugee crisis, and I mean absolutely in 280 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: every arena, or like we're talking economic sanctions or different stuff. 281 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: Well that tends to affect ripple out word and affect 282 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: the world in general, and so there's a lot. Yeah, 283 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: And like, for example, there's this messy, messy situation where 284 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: like the German government is kind of supporting Ukraine but 285 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: also is entirely dependent on Russian gas um to to 286 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: an extent that is like massive and probably will go 287 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: down in history as a disastrous decision. We can talk 288 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: about the ethics of like nuclear power forever, but Germany 289 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: made a real clear decision to like back away from 290 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: nuclear power, which made them completely fucking um uh dependent 291 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: upon Russian oil and gas, which is having an impact 292 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: on the way they're approaching this. Like I haven't open this, 293 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: but I did just see something about the US is 294 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: preparing um emergency plans for gas and power supplies. U. 295 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: The knock this will be if it happens, will be horrific. Um. Yeah, 296 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: it will be rific for Russia too. Like that's the thing. 297 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: Even if they win. Um, the odds that any win 298 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: that anyone has in this will be like so so 299 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: pyric as to be not really a win are pretty high. Um, 300 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: it's an incredible gamble, And I think the gamble Putin 301 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: is making I suspect his geographical ambitions are kind of 302 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: more limited than people are giving him credit for. And 303 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: he's hoping very quick war take these things, get the 304 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: prestige force everybody through fear to like back away and 305 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: kind of let it happen. Um, you know, and and 306 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: and he might get that that's the kind of thing. 307 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: There's a canny way, I think, um to do that. 308 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: I think any attempt to like actually eat the entire country, 309 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: so to speak, through direct military force, um, would be 310 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: uh tatanically ugly. But you know, it's it's really hard 311 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: to say what's going to happen. There's so many different 312 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: kind of variables here, and there's there's really frustrating ship. 313 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm seeing people now on Twitter being like Joe Biden, 314 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: you know what, an idiot starting a war with Russia 315 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: in the winter, and it's like the war is a 316 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: decade old, Joe didn't start it. Uh, It's it's like 317 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: that's stupid. I'm sorry. Like, even if you think that 318 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be sending any aid to Ukraine, that certainly 319 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: stands you can take that's an idiotic take. Um, and 320 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: it's deeply disrespectful to people, to the people who have 321 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: been dying and suffering in Eastern Ukraine for like a decade. 322 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: So so stop it with that kind of bullshit. It's 323 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: fine if you think shipping weapons there won't make the 324 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: situation better, certainly an arguable point, always an arguable point, um. 325 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: But don't pretend that this is an example of US 326 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: aggression against Russia because that's asinine um. And there's also 327 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: ship Like people there was bitching online about like the 328 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: term for the weapons that we were sending Ukraine, that 329 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: we called it lethal aid, as if that was like, oh, 330 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: it's another like manufacturing can sent euphemism, which I just 331 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: kind of disagree with entomologically, Like, I think lethal aid 332 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: is fine. It's very direct. I think it's an honest way, like, yeah, 333 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: it's that's meant to help them kill people, Like that's 334 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: not Yeah. I even think it's more direct than saying 335 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: we're sending the weapons, because like, weapons is a broad 336 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: category and weapons can include things like anti missile missiles, 337 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: which are defensive. Lethal aid means like this is aid 338 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: to help them kill people whatever. Yeah. At the same time, 339 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they're trying to dress it out 340 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: of is usually reserved, like you know, like the connotation 341 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: from that word is like a positive sort of helpful, 342 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: say I'm sending a lethal thing. But yeah, I do, 343 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, I understand. But whatever, Um, it doesn't something 344 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: I've never seen before, and it's an odd thing to 345 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: pop up suddenly. It's been used before. It's just generally 346 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: when we admit to doing stuff like this, it's on 347 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: a more a very different it's in a very different 348 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: situation than it is in Ukraine, and so it's not 349 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: the kind it gets as much news coverage. Yeah, I 350 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: take a break before we, yeah, slide into some bends, 351 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: but I am not looking forward. I mean, it's already happening, 352 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: but to what you're talking about, just the different conversations 353 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: and the framings of it that are so hard to 354 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: unpack and totally unfair and lacking any context. And then 355 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: the people on the right saying, well, Trump would have 356 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: done this, or this wouldn't have happened, or you know, Trump, 357 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: it's going to be a problem for us through the 358 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: elections no matter, and that group. I mean, but everything is. 359 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: But activist groups stopped the war has been like doing 360 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: a whole thing to like stop the war in Ukraine 361 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: from starting. And again it's like it's it's happening. You 362 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: can't and has been for seven or eight years, like 363 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: stop it. Putin it's still there. It's perfectly and perfectly 364 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: reasonable to talk about aspects of US policy have made 365 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: that have made this worse. I mean that one of 366 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: the reasons I talked about Paul Manafort so fucking much, 367 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: who is deeply tied into the to like the U. S. 368 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: Foreign policy establishment, into the you know, the military industrial complex, 369 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: but just pretending that like if we don't get involved, 370 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: there won't be a war. No, there will be a war, 371 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: like there's been Like it's not it's happening right now. 372 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: Um yeah, anyway, all right, anyway, we're gonna talk about 373 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: Ben in a moment together everything. Yeah, now time for 374 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: that good stuff with art, with art, Yeah you wanna 375 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: Shall we get back to Ben Shapiro? Was that enough 376 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: talking about the real world for you? Mother? I hope 377 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: so it was plenty for me. Again, We've got other 378 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: shows that you can tune into shows and the news 379 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: is the bummer. Let's have some funner, Yeah, exactly. What's 380 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: not a bummer is hearing Ben Shapiro try to write 381 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four. Um with the notable handicap of having 382 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: never experienced or felt anything in his entire life. It's 383 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: a problem. It's a real issue. It could it could, 384 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: it could come to use, but sadly, here we are. UM. 385 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know it's the last one. Also, so 386 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: we'll you know, we'll revisit that. We'll revisit the fucking 387 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: news in the future. But um, we did. Yeah, you're 388 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: if you're listening, you're definitely news out. Um. I'll take 389 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: Katie's word for it. Does anybody remember the last thing? 390 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: I do? But I'm sort of like wondering where where 391 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: does where? Does everybody think we left off? What was 392 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: going on? Uh? He looked up at the star. He 393 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: saw a magic start him up to the horrors of authority, 394 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: right right, right right, and then he ran and that 395 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: cube floated or Scott scoot the cube, which is a 396 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: rip off of the prisoner, but a fine like that's 397 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: the kind of thing feels to be honest, we're making 398 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: fun of it, but that's the kind of thing that's 399 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: that's that's perfectly. They can even add some depth to 400 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: a science fiction story when you when you can see like, ah, 401 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: he must have been inspired by this, he's a fan 402 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: of this, Like he's pulled in this, Like that's that's okay, 403 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: that's that's fine. I would argue that there's a difference 404 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: between like inspiration and just like lack of creativity, and 405 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: it's like I have something because there's there's nothing about this. 406 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: Using tropes are interesting, but like changing not bad, not 407 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: necessarily no, But in this case, I would argue that, yes, 408 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: it is very bad. Yeah, that's probably, but I mean, 409 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't make me think wouldn't it be interesting to 410 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: write a story about that that's like a post know 411 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: um apocalyptic living in sort of like nineteen eighty four 412 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: style dystopia. Becomes clear that the people who built the 413 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: dystopia were directly ripping off nineteen eighty four and the 414 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: prisoner and stuff. That's what I not clear to the 415 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: people in the world, but it's clear to the reader 416 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: that like that could be neat You could do a 417 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: fun story that way he's doing, but it could No, No, 418 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: not at all. But like if you're looking times, I'll 419 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: like like watching someone reading something being like distiction not 420 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: exists in this world. Um, but to uh, yeah, to 421 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: do something where like, yeah, it does and it's all 422 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: the stuff that you've known, but not like maybe you've 423 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: got even like competing factions within the authoritarian government. One 424 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: of them is nineteen eighty four. One of them is 425 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: going kind of like weird Brazil style and like, yeah, 426 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: you could do the world in there where you were writer. 427 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: There's there's things you could do that could be fun here. 428 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: But but no, this is literally just you needed a pod, um, 429 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: but can't be that. You've got to make it a 430 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: cube shaped pod. But give us a sentence. Okay, so 431 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I will read the last paragraph that we 432 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: read just to get us to get us back. Um. 433 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: And that paragraph is one of his longer ones, at 434 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: five sentences, I think. Um. Then he saw them in 435 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: the reflection of the large mirrored glass panes of the 436 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Ministry of Food Provision. The cube shaped enforcement pods were 437 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: rolling down the street after him, gaining rapidly in the 438 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: lead pod. Yeah, it sounds like they kind of wheels 439 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: in the lead pod, but it would be so it's 440 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: actually kind of silly if they roll on wheels, if 441 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: they're just big cubes on wheel. Ye, yes, we're being pedantic. 442 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: But it's a bad story and it's funny to us, 443 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: so required, Uh, pedantry is required when reading these. In 444 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: the lead pod, though, he could see the slack jawed 445 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: face of a slightly bored enforcer Capital E, who leaned 446 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: forward and pushed a button. Suddenly, the pod jumped as 447 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: those spurred with the cattle prod bucked and leaped toward him. 448 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: The distance shrank one block. His feet were giving way 449 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: now half a block. Uh So, it's like a giddy 450 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: up kind of thing. But it's a cube cube that spurted. Fine, 451 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: it's fine. The pod loudspeaker opened up, opened up. The 452 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: pod loudspeaker opened up with that pulsating rhythm. He'd heard 453 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: the rhythm once before. He'd only seen one enforcement action before. 454 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: It had been a young girl ready for recruitment to 455 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: the Ministry of Personal Needs. She had run just in 456 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: front of his living space. They had turned on the 457 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: pulse Capital p she'd fallen to her knees, sobbing hysterically. 458 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: By the time they loaded her into the enforcement pod, 459 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: she was in full spasm. He never knew what happened 460 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: to her, but he hadn't thought of her again until now. 461 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: The pulse grew louder. The pod crept up on him, 462 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: an animal in pursuit of its prey. He looked for 463 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: an escape to the right or left, but each block 464 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 1: was solid. No alleyways to prevent clandestine meetings and secret liaisons, 465 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: a policy he had always thought fair and good. But 466 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: the unforgiving, unbroken walls continue to end of this to 467 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: the end of the street. Sorry, I'm just like lost 468 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: in his prose. But the unforgiving, unbroken walls continued to 469 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: the end of the street. But behind him, the pulse crescendoed. 470 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: He could feel the hair on his arms stand on end. 471 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: His knees began to buckle. Soon he knew his legs 472 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: would give out, his head fry from the pulse. Mm 473 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: hmmm hm. And I'm gonna read this again soon. Comma 474 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: this yeah, soon, Comma. He knew, Comma, his legs would 475 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: give out. Comma, his head fry from the pulse. His 476 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: legs would give out, His head would fry from the pulse. 477 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: Look out too many words there, This is minor, But 478 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: he described that woman being instantly right, didn't she come spasm? 479 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: And now he's been running from the pulse. This whole time. Yeah, 480 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: she's fallen to her knees, sobbing hysterically. She's in full spasm. 481 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm just doing well, unclearer of I mean, like he's 482 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: been running from it for a minute. It's fine, but 483 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: it's just very unclear how this works, how it affects people, 484 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: why it's affecting him differently than it affected her. I 485 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: bet he doesn't know a special boy. Yeah. The thing 486 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: is though, so soon, he knew his legs would give out, 487 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: his head fry from the pulse, but it didn't. As 488 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: the pulse grew closer, he felt a strange sensation flow 489 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: through his limbs, a second burst of energy. He was 490 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: not like that girl, he suddenly realized. Oh, he's a 491 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: special al right. I was trying to give him a 492 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: little bit of credit that, like, maybe he was just 493 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: not explaining everything right away. He's special, Kay, he's a 494 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: special boy. That's good. Yeah, okay, you know, but he's special. Uh. 495 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: He was not like that girl. He suddenly realized a 496 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: shocking realization. He had always been like everyone. He's a 497 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: different words, so bad. I was not like that girl. 498 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: He realized a shocking realization, Like right, like, he's not 499 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: like that girl said he realized shocking for he like, like, 500 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: all right, he was not like the slack jawed enforcer. 501 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: Then interesting. Uh the disdain and disrespect he has for 502 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: the cops in this world. And yet uh, and yet 503 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: he would never describe any cop these days as slack 504 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: jawed because those cops are liberals. Exactly. I'll just want 505 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: to point out that. I mean, I guess I've probably 506 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: pointed this out many times throughout this process. Um, it's 507 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: the voice is exactly the same in every thing. He 508 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: might tack on some colloquialism to suggest this is a 509 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: tough guy, or I'm from the South, but you know 510 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: I was running the hair fry everything. It could be 511 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: him describing him fighting. He's just trying to, like very bluntly, 512 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: get ideas that aren't very well thought out to you. 513 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: As opposed to what he's not trying to do is 514 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: there's no there's no voice, like I don't think he's 515 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't think he's inspired by anyone. I think there's 516 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: some like ideas, like clearly the vague ideas like someone 517 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: described nineteen eighty four to Ben Shapiro, or he watched 518 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: a movie and he was like, oh, I'll do that, 519 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: but but I don't think he's he I do not 520 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: believe he's inspired by any actual work of art in 521 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: the way that like he's he's he's he's not doing 522 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: the thing that like you do as a writer, where 523 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: you like read someone else's writing and it influences the 524 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: way you write because you you you identify with it 525 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: and find it powerful. Um. And maybe he's not. Like 526 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: one of the stories that I've always found interesting is 527 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: a hun Let's know, when Thompson was a young man, 528 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: he was a huge fan of like f Scott Fitzgerald 529 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: in Hmingway, and he would like take their whole books 530 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: and he would retype their whole book's word for a 531 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: word to like learn how the how they like, to 532 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: really get like a feel for how they constructed sentences. Um, 533 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: and how like their their work flowed on a technical level. Um. 534 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: And every writer does you know if not that exact 535 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: thing to some version of that, right, Like your early 536 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: work is going to largely be influenced by whatever writers 537 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: you love, and you gradually develop a style. And Bin's 538 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: style is is an absence of style. Because I don't 539 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: think he actually, I mean, he's actually read any fiction, 540 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: like not really, I think he's aware of fiction, but 541 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: he does not. I'm not. I don't know what influence 542 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: I would I would say he has, because again, this 543 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: isn't writing well right, it's um it's I don't even 544 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: know what you would call it. Um, but it's not writing. 545 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: There's that Uh it's for a while ago, there's that 546 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: tweet someone was like, what are your top five favorite books? 547 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: Or like, what are the five best books of all time? Uh? 548 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: And he quote tweeted it with his answer, and it 549 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: was literally the results you get if you search for 550 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: best books of all time. I'm not exaggerating. That's so funny. 551 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: Oh that's so funny. Um, I believe Great Gatsby kill 552 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: to Kill Mockingbird and uh like catching the Rye, I think, um, 553 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: And it was literally just like the top five from 554 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: the search. And I think that that like speaks to it, 555 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: like it's it's this sort of idea that like, and 556 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: if you did the same thing with music, you could 557 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: do also he does he thinks that like what like uh, 558 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: jazz uh and the blues like ruined music and then 559 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: rock and role made it even worse, and like it's 560 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: just sort of like slow like degradation of of like 561 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: the rules for music is this, which is the kind 562 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: of music he likes? Theory. I'm looking at the top 563 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: five books when you google them, and it's really good 564 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: that he didn't continue to six, because that would have 565 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: meant he would have had to say he liked to 566 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: Catch twenty two. He absolutely the anti Ben Japiro. And 567 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: then right after that we've got Yeah, that's very a 568 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: little more before we take another ad break. Yeah, yeah, 569 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: we like we're getting close to a story break. Yeah, 570 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: and uh, I just think it's it's two speaking to 571 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: what you were talking about. I think it's very funny 572 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: that it's it is just like a lack of the 573 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: inspiration from art, a lack of like really being spoken 574 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: to um or connection to something and then having that 575 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: blossom into something else. Right, that's uh, you feel the 576 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: tank up and then it creates more. But um, Anyway, Yeah, 577 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure Ben it feels love for like his kids 578 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. I hope, I sincerely, truly, without being an asshole, 579 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: hope that that he is. But I don't know that 580 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: he's ever experienced awehe I think you can't actually write 581 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: even competent fiction if you don't know what all feels like. 582 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: I think it's like a necessary thing because, like we 583 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: talked about last week during the Star Day, you're not Yeah, 584 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: you're not describing what it's like to look at the stars. Man, 585 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: You're just like saying that they did that. Yeah, okay, 586 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: read a little more. Okay, okay, So, uh he's not 587 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: like other boys. Um, he was not like the slack. No, 588 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: that's just paraphrasing. Um, he's a special boy. The enforcers 589 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: eyes widened and shocked as the pod approached. He was 590 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: well within the range of the pulse. Now pulse is 591 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 1: also capitalized. Yet nothing was happening. Nothing another to fry 592 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: before then. Okay, interesting question. Uh nothing. Another enforcement pod 593 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: opened up with the pulse full bore. Nothing. A smile 594 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: creased his worn face. He slowed to a jog, then 595 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: a walk, then finally he stopped dead and turned around, 596 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: facing his pursuers. As he did, the pods backed away, 597 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: as though called away by some higher power. He turned 598 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: again and ran towards the mountain. Mountain is capitalized. And 599 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: then that's the end of the section. Oh it's so bad. 600 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: This is the first we've heard of the mountain. But 601 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait to find out more about it. Maybe 602 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: it's like the Game of Thrones mountain. Yeah again, like 603 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: if you're you're doing this thing where the society is 604 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: so obsessed with everyone being equal and everything being exactly 605 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: the same, a mountain is kind of like the ultimate 606 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: visual symbol that like that that's not real, that like 607 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: that can't can't be reality. So if it's always visible. Again, 608 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: if you were trying to write something interesting, maybe you 609 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: would have earlier introduced that, Like he tried to look 610 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: at it, but like his eyes automatically scanned. There's some 611 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: sort of like deep mental programming hypnosis, like he like 612 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: his head hurts, or there's some robots always watching or something, 613 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: and there's like this warning beeper whenever someone's eyes straight 614 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: towards the mountain, because you don't want people to look 615 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: at the mount wouldn't want people to look you wouldn't 616 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: want people at the stars. Yeah wait till Robert you 617 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: write your book of short stories, because I think it 618 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: would be really good. They are just all erotic power 619 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: Rangers fiction exactly really good. Still also inspired by but 620 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: the parts of four that fuck, you know, like the 621 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: parts that the parts that inspired that community episode that 622 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: those are the parts I'm copy sex parts. We're gonna 623 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: take a break for ads and be right that it's true. 624 00:36:49,719 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: It sure will together. Everything's so dumb. Oh yeah, oh yeah, 625 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: yeah in the sky. Yes, yes, Katie. Have you guys 626 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: watched I think you should leave. I've seen one episode 627 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: and then some choice sketches from it. So you gotta 628 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta get through all that. You gotta 629 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: just sit down. It's like three hours for all of it. 630 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: It's so it's the funniest thing in the world. I 631 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoyed the one. Yeah, what what's the one you saw? Um? 632 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: The first one? Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's the one. 633 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: Now you gotta see you gotta see Corn cop TV 634 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: and you haven't seen Corn. That's the other thing, like 635 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: I see like the memes. Um, it's it's it's very funny. 636 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: I now communicate with several people almost entirely through references 637 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: to I think you should leave. I've never had a 638 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: show to be like that. I'm so happy for you. 639 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: It's very Um. That's the mark of good art. It's 640 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: really Darmak and gelatted pretty hard. Um. Simpsons, I think 641 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: is a good example of that. Um of just like, yeah, 642 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: communicate with all the quotes. Okay, boys, back to the book, 643 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: back to the book, back to the book. So I 644 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: just wanted to think about art for a second. I 645 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: understand we all enjoyed something like a unique voice that 646 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: like sticks with you and yeah, um god, all right, 647 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: so he ran towards the fucking mountain, which is capitalized. Um, 648 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: he didn't know how he knew about the mountain? Oh perfect, Okay. 649 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: And also this is this is exactly the way you 650 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: don't introduce something crucial like this. It's just like basic writing. 651 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: You would you would introduce it very early on, tease it, 652 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: and then because that's what makes the story a story. 653 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: You have like walking down the street and here even 654 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: here snipped snippets of a conversation or something or yes, 655 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: literally any mention of this. But the point is maybe 656 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: he just like irrationally hates the mountain. Maybe everyone hates 657 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: the mountain because it's right, it's risen above like the thing, 658 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: maybe like one of the eight pointless day jobs, because 659 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: this is a point post scarcity society. But they have 660 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: to make everyone work. Is everybody takes turns going to 661 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: the mountain and cutting pieces of it away to try 662 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: to take it down down. Things you could do, were 663 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: you a storyteller. Alas, he didn't know how he knew 664 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: about the mountain. The Ministry of Environments never talked about it. 665 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: Nobody knew. Yeah, nobody knew the words mountain or valley. Wait, okay, okay, 666 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: he's trying to again. Like what I was explaining is 667 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: like how you would if you were trying to make 668 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: like right wing propaganda, how you would do it competently. 669 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: He's just so bad at it. It's like, yeah, I'm 670 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: so sorry everybody listening to this that we have to 671 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: stop every two sentences. But it's impossible to not. Yeah, 672 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: it's fascinatingly bad. The Ministry of Environment never talked about it. 673 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: Nobody knew the words mountain or valley. He couldn't even 674 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: see the mountain capitalized. The bubble also capital Oh now 675 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: we introduce that. So after this thing has been important 676 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 1: for a while, we announced that you can't see the mountain. 677 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: You can't see the mountain because of the bubble, which 678 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: is apparently a thing. Okay, so how can you see 679 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: the fucking stars whatever? Maybe they're drawn off like somebody 680 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: gave him this note of like all the like what 681 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: you were just saying, Robert, and he just tacked it 682 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: in like he didn't. He's like, oh, here, I'll give 683 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: some information withoutgoing and like rethinking, like how go back 684 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: a few pages, Yeah, go back, rework the story, you know. 685 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: And it's this thing when you add when you're doing 686 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: world building in a science fiction book, it's it's great 687 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: if your world if you drop something that like makes 688 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: people ask further. Like, for example, in my novel I, 689 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: I have like a couple dropped references that there's a 690 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: fucking king in Albuquerque and it's a thing that people 691 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: talk about in the subread of a lot, I get 692 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about it, and like, I think 693 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: it's an effective thing in the story because it it 694 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: makes the point like, oh, things I really changed. There's 695 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: like some stuff going on and as part of the 696 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: world that's fascinating. I wonder what's going on there. But 697 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't take you out of the story because it's 698 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: not like a mechanical thing about how the world functions, right, 699 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, there's this thing going on in Albuquerque, 700 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: that there's a king there that's weird, Like that makes 701 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: it feel deeper. It's like um in uh in Star Wars, 702 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of of of good examples of 703 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,959 Speaker 1: like when they meet Han Solo and he's like um 704 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: talks about the Kessel Run or whatever, where it's like, 705 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't need to know what the Kessel Run is. 706 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: It is increased my enjoyment of the story because it's 707 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: added depth. The opposite of that is introducing something that 708 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: makes you wonder on a very basic level how reality functions. Here, 709 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: Like halfway through this fucking story, dropping that they live 710 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: under a bubble that you've never talked about before or explained, 711 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: and so suddenly I'm asking all these questions, why, how 712 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: did the stars work? How are you all started to 713 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: did they take the bubble down? How did you know 714 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: there was a mountain here? If you can't see the mountain, 715 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: that takes me out of it. It's the difference between 716 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: world building that you don't always have to explain everything, 717 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: but you you need to know the things that you 718 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: don't like. You need to know when your world building 719 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: is going to make the world feel deeper and when 720 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: your world building is going to make it make less 721 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: sense exactly. Yeah, it's uh, it's it. It makes it 722 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: feel convoluted and sloppy, and like does your does this 723 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: sentence you're adding raise questions are distracting or does it 724 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: just make it richer? Does it make the world richer? Um? 725 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't need to know every detail unless it's confusing. Um. 726 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: All I know about the Kessel run is that it's 727 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,479 Speaker 1: actually apparently it's impressive. It's an impressive thing he did. 728 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: He did a thing, um uh in a short amount 729 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: of time than it's possible or the distance I guess 730 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: is the part sect of the question there. But like 731 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, it's it tells me about the character. 732 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't tell me a very important thing about the 733 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: world and how it functions. Yeah, it's one of those 734 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: things like in in in in the scene when we 735 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: meet all the bounty hunters in in what the Second 736 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 1: Star Wars. Notice integrations Yeah, yeah, notice integrations right, perfect 737 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: line give you some gives this character who gets very 738 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: few lines, this like really feeling of depth to him, 739 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: gives like there's a relationship between him. In Vader also 740 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: build something about the world that like, yeah, these are 741 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: the kind of dudes that the Empire would hire as 742 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 1: opposed to Boba Fette saying, you know, I can stop 743 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: anyone's heart from a thousand miles away with my mind 744 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 1: and then never bringing it up again. And then suddenly 745 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: you're like, well, why isn't he doing that now? Like 746 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: what's going on with that? That doesn't make any sense? 747 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: How can you do that? Like? Yeah, and it speaks 748 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: to like, okay, Vader very very very much wants to 749 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: take this guy alive. That speaks to a lot like 750 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: what happens later. It's all this stuff in this one line. 751 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't make you go wait what? Yeah? Yeah. As 752 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: as a rule, you want people to get excited and 753 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: to ask and to have like things that they're curious 754 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 1: about you want. You want ideally people are interested about 755 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: things that you don't fully explain in your world building, 756 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: because that means that the world has some depth. But 757 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: you don't want people to go wait, wait what, Yeah, 758 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,479 Speaker 1: there's a different curiosity that infusion. I'm confused. It's bad. 759 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: If I'm curious about what that means, then maybe I'll 760 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: find out as I turned the pages, Um, I cares 761 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: what happens next. Thank god there's more. So he couldn't 762 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: even see the mountain. I didn't even finish the sentence 763 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: before we started talking about this. He couldn't even see 764 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: the mountain thanks to the bubble, the protective climate change 765 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: artificial environment that made all land even and flat, fruitful 766 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: and evenly graded. Too many evens in their buddy. Nobody 767 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: he knew had ever been outside the bubble. Okay, that's 768 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: what the bubble does. Does when he reached the wall 769 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: of the bubble, very easy to do, apparently, when he 770 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: reached the wall like this is so quick. When he 771 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: reached the wall of the bubble, he stopped, puzzled. The 772 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: plexiglass dome rose thousands of feet off the ground. It 773 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: was dozens of feet thick, brightly polished, gleaming in the 774 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: red sun, perfectly smooth, unblemished, unbreakable, terrible paragraph. He sat 775 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: in the dust for hours, waiting. He didn't know what 776 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: he was waiting for. He only knew that he had 777 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: no other choice. It wasn't a protest against the ministries 778 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: or against his brethren. He just knew that after seeing 779 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: the wild Star, he would never go back to the spigot. 780 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: He would never go back to his living space. He 781 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: would never go back to his blue clad women or 782 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: his card playing acquaintances, terrible paragraph. He waited for the 783 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: enforcers because none, none of it's just like really and 784 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: like literally it is just a magic star made him 785 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: think this, like I'm just yeah, man, and there's no 786 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: setup of like there was tension before. He felt empty, 787 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: he wanted like he's asking for more from one of 788 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 1: these comforts. You know, he was happy, he said many time, 789 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: exactly like there's it means nothing that suddenly he's broken free. 790 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: Also as Cody you mentioned, but just in general, everything 791 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: happens so fast. There's no like he was chased by 792 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: these things. There's no real explanation or exploration of what's happened, 793 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: why he's different, why he's not being you know. And 794 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: then they're gone. And so he ran a supposedly far 795 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: distance that was not far at all, just to a 796 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: wall and he sat down and they're processing all this stuff. 797 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: There's no actual drama here, and like it would be 798 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: a great opportunity to like run through this space towards 799 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: the edge of the bubble where we can get more 800 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: information about the world, um, like literally finding out that 801 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: there is a bubble and then he's there. Yeah, Um, 802 00:46:53,239 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, there's no tension um whatever. It's like 803 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: really boring you. That's all I can say about it, uh, 804 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: and other stuff soon alright, So he waited for the 805 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: enforcers to come get him. The red sun rose above him. 806 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: He swept through his gray jumpsuit and stripped down. He 807 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: felt the heat on his shoulders concentrated through the dome, 808 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,959 Speaker 1: like an ant under a magnifying glass. He had never 809 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: seen an aunt. He had only heard of a magnifying glass. Wait, 810 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: how does he know what did he hear about an 811 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: aunt too? Did the word aunt just come into his mind? 812 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: Like I would say? It's bad because Ben is telling 813 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: the story in the third person, so he's it's not 814 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: a first person thing. So the guy isn't saying I 815 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: feel like an ant under magnifying glass. The narrator is 816 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: saying it's like an ant under a magnifying glass. But 817 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: by the way, he doesn't know what an aunt is. 818 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: So it's just a poor choice of words that the 819 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: art is it the narrator saying it's like an ant 820 00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: under a magnifying glass. Because then a raider hasn't interjected, 821 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 1: and I'm going to guess does not interjected any other 822 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: points in this story. Okay, um, yeah, it's just a 823 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 1: poor choice, like to use that turn of phrase because 824 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, by the way, like he's never seen 825 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: an ant before. He'd heard of magnifying glasses though, which 826 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: is like all right, introduced and start flipping around like 827 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: that at this point, that's great, exists, Like you got 828 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: rid of all the bugs with his bubble, all right. 829 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: And then the dome opened and he was free. Okay, 830 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: they're great. He really tried hard for this, he's actually 831 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: and then the dome opened. Yeah, so he never magnifying 832 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: glass stuff. New paragraph. And then the dome opened and 833 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: he was free. New paragraph. Stories work formatting issue. The 834 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: doorway appeared, almost as if by magic. It's slid open slightly. 835 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: The darkness beckoned beyond it. He stepped through new paragraph, 836 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 1: even worse formatting error in the distance, silent and frightening, 837 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: sat the mountain capitalized. It was barren, a waste land 838 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: spotted with sulfur and salt. Something inside him warned him, 839 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: Something inside him warned him from the mountain, a deep 840 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: spot in his consciousness, covered in a gauzy film of time. 841 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: He boy lofty, calm down man, all right, mountain just 842 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: like so out of place in this very like boring 843 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: like and then the bubble did this, and he walked 844 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: like but the guzzy, So that's what you're going to describe. 845 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: That's when that's the choice. It's so so out of place. Anyway, 846 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: he walked towards the mountain. It stood surprisingly close to 847 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: the bubble. It was a miracle. He thought that you 848 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: could not see the mountain from inside semi colon outside 849 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: the I'm sorry, all right, it was is a miracle. Comma, 850 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: he thought, Comma that you could not see the mountain 851 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: from inside semicolon outside the bubble. Comma, it was the 852 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: only feature of the landscape. I guess that's what you 853 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: have to do if you want to say that sentence. 854 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: That's appropriate functuation. Barren desert extended in every direction from 855 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: the mountain. A light shone on the new paragraph. A 856 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: light shone on the mountain, winking in the distance. New paragraph. 857 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: The bubble shut behind him, new paragraph. He walked towards 858 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: the mountain. Um, so that section is now over, and 859 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 1: it ends, so like the last one ended. He turned 860 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: again and ran towards the mountain, and this one ends. 861 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: He walked towards the mountain really bored. I feel like 862 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: this is a good spot for us to wrap things 863 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: up today. I think that's probably fair. We've got and 864 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry seven more pages of this ship. Uh, 865 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to change how he read through this. 866 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: Um m hm. The last page is blank. So that's 867 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: something that's a win, that's a real win. That's probably 868 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: be the best written page of the book. Yeah, I'm 869 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 1: gonna say not a formatting error of formatting triumph. That's 870 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: just been apologizing to all of us. Yeah, feeling they're 871 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: fill in the blank. I'm sorry, buddy. Um so I 872 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: guess Cliffhanger, what's the mountain? What's he going to find out? 873 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 1: At the mountain's walking towards? Let us know in our 874 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: reply after the bubble. I actually do want I I 875 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: love it when people chime and work their thoughts on this. 876 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 1: Oh it's great because the guys are funny. Yeah, baby, 877 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: take a babe, God, um this was really it's fun 878 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: the right word. No, but it is. I know what 879 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: it was. It was a time though we might say 880 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 1: a time the gauzy film of time. It's been a 881 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: you know what that is exactly what it is been. 882 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: It has been a gauzy film of time. I couldn't 883 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: have said it's going to be a haze that I 884 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: won't remember that. Well, that's right, that's right. That is 885 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: very very appropriate, which is why I look forward to 886 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: your responses in the comments. Tune in next time to 887 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: find out what the next Uh here's a fun game 888 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: for any listeners. And I don't know if there is one, 889 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: but if there is, what do you think the next 890 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: capitalized word is going to be? The like, the the 891 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: object or the person or like whatever that's like, Well, 892 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: I gotta capitalize this because it's sci fi. What do 893 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 1: you think it's going to be, folks, Well, it's outside 894 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: of it. Maybe things won't be. I was going to say, though, 895 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: lake m hm um rock could be. It could be 896 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,399 Speaker 1: it could be an object, it could be a person, 897 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: It could be an event. It could be Oh I 898 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,919 Speaker 1: see it, all right, he sees it? What is it? 899 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you. Okay, that's it for us this week. 900 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with maybe some news and 901 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: book and we're having fun and keeping it real. Keep 902 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: it real, y'all, Keep it real. Real. Can find us 903 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:37,479 Speaker 1: all from hashtag smarts everything, so everything I tried. Worst 904 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: Year Ever is a production of I heart Radio. 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