Speaker 1: From the King of Sports Books comes the Key Sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Speaker 1: Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Decker. Welcome to Unleashed and Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to us on Thursday, we appreciate all
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Speaker 1: You get all of the NFL weekend preview, especially this
Speaker 1: week three amazing games on Thursday. If you're listening to
Speaker 1: this late, I apologize, We've got to dig into a
Speaker 1: little bit. Jerry Ferra, your Giants are playing in a
Speaker 1: big game against the Cowboys, and it's in the middle,
Speaker 1: like right in the middle of when you're hosting a
Speaker 1: thirty person thanks Giving. Yeah. I did not sign up
Speaker 1: for this. I mean we were talking off air you
Speaker 1: said I sort of did when we moved to the Midwest.
Speaker 1: My wife has a large family. They're great. I love them.
Speaker 1: Were like the default Thanksgiving house. Now. I don't know
Speaker 1: how this happened, but yeah, this is the first meaningful
Speaker 1: Giants game, probably the best Thanksgiving slate in a very
Speaker 1: very long time in general. Also on my birthday on Friday,
Speaker 1: like the perfect time to offload children, responsibilities and just
Speaker 1: eat and watch football and chill. And now people are
Speaker 1: gonna be asking me where everything is in my house.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sell the house after this house going
Speaker 1: on the market Friday. Yeah, there you go. Hey, I
Speaker 1: might be interested. I'd love to have them to be
Speaker 1: back down here. Just when you have people over, you
Speaker 1: can set out the bar, you can get the ice,
Speaker 1: the lines cut the you can have everything out, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And people still come up to hey,
Speaker 1: do you have a you know, extra napkins or where
Speaker 1: the straws or you're just like, oh my god, you people. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: here's all the lemons for the Do you have like
Speaker 1: a whole lemon? Why they need a whole lemon right now?
Speaker 1: And you know what, just find it, find it yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be really really interesting. The good thing
Speaker 1: is I have a lot of TVs in the house,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm more scared about the seven little
Speaker 1: kids that are going to be in the house that
Speaker 1: because they're the destroyers, they will destroy they get destroy
Speaker 1: everything in minutes. They're all under five five and under
Speaker 1: and overall fan base. I think you're the only New
Speaker 1: Yorker if this is a lot of your wife's family.
Speaker 1: Are you the only one who cares about the giants?
Speaker 1: The only one who cares about the giants? What's so
Speaker 1: funny about those Browns? Though? I someone also broke our rule.
Speaker 1: I had to attend a Sunday kid's birthday party that
Speaker 1: started at one pm. Nope, no, thank you, unacceptable one pm.
Speaker 1: Now it's our neighbors and there their two sons. Their
Speaker 1: birthdays are really close together. We love them, Our kids
Speaker 1: are like best friends with their kids. They're great people.
Speaker 1: I took Jacob myself because I also I started having
Speaker 1: football guilt. You know, we can. I've in week twelve.
Speaker 1: I'm like, god, I've kind of taken Sundays to myself
Speaker 1: for ten weeks. Let me take the kid and let's go.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah. But what the point of me saying
Speaker 1: is these Browns fans are all hollowed around the TV
Speaker 1: watching that game like it mattered. Yeah, because it does
Speaker 1: to them, you know it does. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even I don't even want to go to my own
Speaker 1: kid's birthday party on a Sunday. I just and here
Speaker 1: for a little spoiler out there. There are two things
Speaker 1: people don't want to go to, baby showers and kids
Speaker 1: birthday parties. You just don't want to go. I said
Speaker 1: to my mom. She was hosting my baby shower. I said, Mom,
Speaker 1: I hate going to baby showers. Like, let's make this
Speaker 1: pain less. Let's have it at a restaurant at night
Speaker 1: with an open bar. Just because I can't think, doesn't
Speaker 1: mean other people can't. Okay, that is a tangent That
Speaker 1: is a huge tangent um overall, though, as you look
Speaker 1: forward to this game, and again some people will be listening,
Speaker 1: it'll have already been played. But you know, what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts? Are you confident? Because the Cowboys are hot
Speaker 1: right now and if you ask anyone, they're winning the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So this is actually good because yes, you're
Speaker 1: listening on Thursday, this will be relevant. And then if
Speaker 1: you're listening on Friday or after, you'll get to hear
Speaker 1: the psychology of a Giants van. First of all, Dallas
Speaker 1: has owned us for I don't know eight years at
Speaker 1: this point, I don't remember the last time you've beat
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, let alone in Dallas. Number two was an
Speaker 1: awful loss to the Lions that was for the Giants, like,
Speaker 1: no disrespect to the Lions who are on a three
Speaker 1: game winning streak going into Thanksgiving. That was terrible. And yeah,
Speaker 1: Dallas had that one screw up against your packers, and
Speaker 1: you see what happens when they get piste off. Now
Speaker 1: I think they see the Eagles or maybe coming back
Speaker 1: to the field a little bit. Yeah, terrified at this game.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones finally had a Daniel Jones game against the Lions,
Speaker 1: which we've been avoiding all year. So I will say though,
Speaker 1: I believe in dable to keep this one close and
Speaker 1: maybe if we get the Cowboys into deep waters, we
Speaker 1: could steal this one. I do think the steel is
Speaker 1: in play. But yes, this is that defense is absolutely terrifying. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it scares you a little bit,
Speaker 1: but Vegas is giving the edge to Dallas in a
Speaker 1: big way. Minus No. Nine. We record on Tuesday, so
Speaker 1: that that might change a little bit. But Jerry, that's horrible.
Speaker 1: And then forty four and a half is the point total?
Speaker 1: What do you think of that one? Do you like
Speaker 1: any play here that makes me happy? If you've noticed too,
Speaker 1: every time the Giants seemed to become a real pick like, oh, giant,
Speaker 1: know what Giants are? For real? They're good. Had that
Speaker 1: going into Seattle lost, had that going into that first
Speaker 1: Dass game, Cooper Rush, Giants could easily win this game,
Speaker 1: and we had that going into the lines. It's all
Speaker 1: the games that the Giants are disrespected in is the
Speaker 1: ones that they show up. And I feel like that
Speaker 1: line is very disrespectful. That's that's that's high for a
Speaker 1: six and seven and three t that's high. That's a
Speaker 1: high number right there. Well, it's not the highest of
Speaker 1: the day. Bills are nine and a half point favorite
Speaker 1: at Detroit. I get that one. I get that one.
Speaker 1: I'm not on this Detroit hype. Come on, it's the Bills.
Speaker 1: They'll get back. And and Josh Allen too. I I'm
Speaker 1: not buying that he's broken. I'm not buying that this uh,
Speaker 1: this offense is broken. I like, I like everything that's
Speaker 1: coming Josh Allen's way moving forward. As long as he's healthy,
Speaker 1: which he seemed okay in that Browns game. As long
Speaker 1: as he's healthy. The Bills I still think are the
Speaker 1: biggest threat to the Chiefs. And we'll get to this,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about your your Chiefs at some point. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, though, Olivia. Those two nine minus nine
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys minus nine and a half of the Bills.
Speaker 1: I do think that taking the points on Thanksgiving certainly
Speaker 1: sounds like something to do. And you know what we have.
Speaker 1: We have a football player on today. We have speaking
Speaker 1: of my giants, one of my favorite all time Giants,
Speaker 1: and I think he has played on Thanksgiving and I
Speaker 1: definitely want to ask him is that a bummer or
Speaker 1: is that incredible? Are you thinking about how much you're
Speaker 1: gonna eat at half time when you're done with this game?
Speaker 1: So if you get the big turkey leg on the field,
Speaker 1: those are a lot of points though on Thanksgiving. So
Speaker 1: I'm already looking at a little Lions Giants even maybe
Speaker 1: a teaser. But we'll talk to Peter Andrew about that. Well,
Speaker 1: he needs to get back to Pete. Let's take it
Speaker 1: easy on Peter. It's the holidays. I guess we must write,
Speaker 1: but he really deserves a talking to, a stern talking
Speaker 1: to Oh my god, did you get a chance to
Speaker 1: watch much of the Monday night game in Mexico? I did.
Speaker 1: I got a little woozy there on the Monday night
Speaker 1: game around him Jerry, I missed it. I was in
Speaker 1: bed last night at eight pm. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: blame the jet lag. But my kids given me like
Speaker 1: a run for my money right now with his jet lags,
Speaker 1: So I put him down at eight. I got in
Speaker 1: bed right after. We're both sound asleep. I mean, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I missed it. When I watched the highlights, I watched
Speaker 1: with a little bit of interest because my knicks were
Speaker 1: also on. But the Niners are getting scary. Yeah, Niners
Speaker 1: look great. And I don't just mean Jimmy G. As
Speaker 1: he walked into the stadium and that g Q pink suit.
Speaker 1: He is a handsome looking dude. And then and then
Speaker 1: they show Cult McCoy walking it after and he looks like,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy who's selling you a blockbust skirt DVD.
Speaker 1: Jimmy G looked incredible. Four past touchdowns, zero interceptions. They
Speaker 1: evenly distribute the ball. I feel like everyone was involved
Speaker 1: because as I'm looking at the box score after, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: look at these four running backs, each with at least
Speaker 1: three carries. Look at these five receivers, each with a
Speaker 1: couple of catches and brand and you had two catches,
Speaker 1: two of them were touchdowns, and kidd All with a
Speaker 1: pair of touchdowns as well, so that was awesome. They
Speaker 1: have won three straight there, six and four, first in
Speaker 1: the NFC West, and they've beaten every division rival. So
Speaker 1: I don't think this record six and four indicates who
Speaker 1: they really are now because they went through the adversity,
Speaker 1: they lost their quarterback. Then they signed Christian McCaffrey, which
Speaker 1: was as big of an acquisition as anyone has done
Speaker 1: and will do until we know where O. B. D goes.
Speaker 1: And then you know, as I'm looking at the NFC
Speaker 1: between Philly, Dallas, and San fran if we kind of
Speaker 1: narrow it down to those three, I don't know if
Speaker 1: we were saying that the Vikings are dead, but who's
Speaker 1: the toughest team now in the NFC When you look
Speaker 1: at those three, couple of things to unpack with that
Speaker 1: number one, I'm officially looking at my Seahawks division win
Speaker 1: ticket saying maybe this is the time to sell it.
Speaker 1: The Niners looked really good, and the Niners already beat
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and that is the only threat in the
Speaker 1: NFC West to the Seahawks. I'm gonna hang on for now.
Speaker 1: But the thought after that Monday night game realized, maybe
Speaker 1: I should sell that ticket that I have. Plus I'm
Speaker 1: gonna answer that question the second. But this really occurred
Speaker 1: to me today when I was looking at teams like
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Browns, the Broncos, several teams that defensively
Speaker 1: are really really good Browns maybe not really offensively. There
Speaker 1: are weapons, but they are only held back by their quarterback.
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. Really might be the most interesting offseason thing
Speaker 1: that's about to happen. But here's my question for you,
Speaker 1: The Niners. Easy of all those teams, to me, the
Speaker 1: Niners are the I think the sneakiest threat to win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. If they won the Super Bowl with
Speaker 1: Jimmy G, do they then say goodbye? Or do they
Speaker 1: run it back? That's such a such a weird thing,
Speaker 1: like they did it with full Like what happens if
Speaker 1: Jimmy G and the Niners in the Super Bowl. You're saying,
Speaker 1: get rid of I guess you don't have to get
Speaker 1: rid of them, but you just you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: sit one more year because we got to defend this title.
Speaker 1: You know, because uh, would you think they would run
Speaker 1: it back? You know? Flacco got that huge contract from
Speaker 1: the Ravens after we won the Super Bowl, much younger
Speaker 1: flac Oh. I just wonder what happens with Niners and
Speaker 1: Jimmy g in success if they win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we I think they almost have
Speaker 1: to run it back, right, But yeah, to me, the
Speaker 1: Niners are the sneakies team. But I still think the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I think they're going through their little hiccups now and
Speaker 1: they're still winning. They only lost one game. I still
Speaker 1: think the Eagles of the team to be I'm with
Speaker 1: you on that. I think we'll learn about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: learn a lot about them on Thursday Night as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, overall, it wasn't a very sexy NFL weekend.
Speaker 1: I feel like every week we get on here and
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, that was the best week at that
Speaker 1: for blah blah blah and Chiefs. Chargers did a lot
Speaker 1: to sell the weekend as a whole, But the fact
Speaker 1: that we had two teams held to just three points
Speaker 1: Jets and Vikings, and that really that Jets Patriots game
Speaker 1: is really pretty good. Just what you looked at, there
Speaker 1: wasn't a single offensive touchdown scored, just the return touchdown
Speaker 1: and everything that you look at at the aftermath with
Speaker 1: the Jets. What stands out to me, Jerry, and where
Speaker 1: I'm not hot on Wilson is when he's asked after
Speaker 1: the game, you know, do you feel like you let
Speaker 1: the defense down? I think was the question, and he says, no, No,
Speaker 1: we don't. I hate a quarterback. Part of playing quarterback
Speaker 1: is falling on the sword, don't you think, especially if
Speaker 1: you play bad? Josh Allen in his postgame press conferences,
Speaker 1: is Mr falling the sword? I need to be better.
Speaker 1: I played badly, blah blah blah. Aaron Rodgers time to
Speaker 1: time will take credit. No, the best will take credit
Speaker 1: for it, because the ship goes as you go. And
Speaker 1: I really didn't like Wilson after a dogshit game. And
Speaker 1: I'm using Robert Sala's words there that he didn't really
Speaker 1: seem to man up to it or feel like he
Speaker 1: let the defense down? The defense who played great? What
Speaker 1: do you think? Look, we all have a TV, Zach,
Speaker 1: we all have a television. We saw the game. We
Speaker 1: watched the game, so it was like an arbitrary question.
Speaker 1: We were basically I feel like whoever asked him that
Speaker 1: question was giving him the opportunity to show some leadership. Okay,
Speaker 1: it wasn't really like what you know, do you think
Speaker 1: you let the d That to me was more of
Speaker 1: a statement and we're giving you a chance here to
Speaker 1: take some of the heat. We all have a TV zacht.
Speaker 1: We saw it, and we know the answer to the question,
Speaker 1: and no is not the answer. The answer is yes,
Speaker 1: should have took some of the own ship. I know
Speaker 1: Jeff fans are there in an uproar, all the Jeff
Speaker 1: fans of my life, crushing him, and maybe it should
Speaker 1: be time for the hot seat. But people are talking
Speaker 1: about giving up on Zach Wilson already. I don't think
Speaker 1: that should be the case either. He's still extremely young
Speaker 1: in his second year. Yes, it looks really bad. Yes
Speaker 1: he's not showing leadership. He's a kid, and I mean
Speaker 1: that would all due respect, he's very very young. So
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. Are they better with Flacco?
Speaker 1: Between the Broncos and the Jets. They easily could be
Speaker 1: leading the FC if they could just score more than
Speaker 1: twelve points. I mean, yeah, Jets could have been first
Speaker 1: with a win over New England. They've lost four teams straight.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy to wrap your mind around. Now, their
Speaker 1: last in the division I mentioned two teams were held
Speaker 1: at just three points. So the Vikings, obviously Cowboys just
Speaker 1: shut them down in the defensive love of forty Cowboy
Speaker 1: points forty points. I'm just it's it's crazy as you're
Speaker 1: flipping through scores and you're on red zone and you
Speaker 1: see that keep coming across your screen. So the Vikings
Speaker 1: two losses Jerry combined fifty four points. And here's here's
Speaker 1: where I'm confused on the Vikings too, because all their
Speaker 1: all their wins have been so close. Obviously, they haven't
Speaker 1: knocked anyone out right. The reason I didn't even ask
Speaker 1: you about them earlier when I was talking about the
Speaker 1: NFC is because I think that the Vikings very best
Speaker 1: isn't their best, isn't as good as anyone else's best,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think this is a
Speaker 1: team who will disappear quickly in the playoffs. Um their
Speaker 1: left run out. You know, when we when we look
Speaker 1: at the Justin Jefferson catch on fourth and eighteen, I
Speaker 1: mean that that was the game winner. Really get no
Speaker 1: business making that catch, and that's how they won the
Speaker 1: previous week. So I just feel like the Vikings are
Speaker 1: flukey and their record doesn't reflect who they are. Well,
Speaker 1: if there was ever a time that was one of
Speaker 1: my picks of the week. As much as it pains
Speaker 1: me to pick the Cowboys, it was so obvious. I
Speaker 1: mentioned last week how me and my good buddy Max
Speaker 1: love storylines and narratives coming off that Bill's win. Really
Speaker 1: where the Viking is gonna just go thrash the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to or steal at three point when no, uh, Look,
Speaker 1: I do think the Vikings are a very very good team,
Speaker 1: and they have been executing and getting lucky and sometimes
Speaker 1: that's all you need. I do think they may go
Speaker 1: away for a little while, and the question will be
Speaker 1: can they get hot again at the right time, because
Speaker 1: they do have great chemistry a team as great chemistry
Speaker 1: as we know. We all seen the photos from the
Speaker 1: jet So yeah, I think that as far as like
Speaker 1: real threats in the NFC, they'll like four on my list,
Speaker 1: I think it goes Cowboys, Eagles, Niners, and then I
Speaker 1: think you could maybe start talking about I'm you have
Speaker 1: to because after that, who who do you got left? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's it, that's it. You start talking giant Seahawks. Really
Speaker 1: that that's that's it. You know who is hot at
Speaker 1: the right time. My god, it's the Kansas City Chief
Speaker 1: straight win in November and December. It's funny. My father
Speaker 1: in law, I went to the Packer game right on
Speaker 1: Thursday night. It was freezing. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: fun until it wasn't. And my father in law the
Speaker 1: next day says, oh man, it sucks. You know the
Speaker 1: season's over. I said, not if you have two teams.
Speaker 1: Not a few have two teams. And now I'm teaching
Speaker 1: my son. We we retire some of our green until
Speaker 1: next fall. And now we go to Alread. We are
Speaker 1: Chiefs fans. Baby. They have their sixth straight one score
Speaker 1: game between the Chargers. I love when these two teams meet.
Speaker 1: I love young quarterback first, young quarterback Herbert Homes. A
Speaker 1: minute forty left on the clock, way more than enough time,
Speaker 1: even when they're shorthanded. I mean, this was magic. Like
Speaker 1: I said, not a very sexy weekend, This was a
Speaker 1: sexy game. I mean this was so good. Chargers covered
Speaker 1: overheit Kelsey with the hat trick. This game delivered. It
Speaker 1: did shoutouts to Cadarius Tony. I didn't really know how
Speaker 1: I felt once the Giants basically traded you away, and
Speaker 1: you're hurt again, and your hamstrings hurt again. Everyone doing
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna regret the Cadarius. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: very talented player. When he played even last year for
Speaker 1: the Giants, he was great. And then we saw him
Speaker 1: with that touchdown with the Chiefs doing the limp down
Speaker 1: the sideline, and then he's hurt again one week later.
Speaker 1: And that's been the story. Outside of that. I know
Speaker 1: I've been on here ranting and raving every week on
Speaker 1: Unleashed about give Justin Jefferson entirely kill their respect for
Speaker 1: m v P. Yes, they should get a few votes.
Speaker 1: I still stand by that Patrick mahomes the m v P.
Speaker 1: He's the best player in the world. He's the offensive
Speaker 1: player of the year. It's done, we get it. I'm
Speaker 1: starting to now look ahead and say, all right, it's
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Really it should go through Kansas City at
Speaker 1: this point, and the one seed will be very important
Speaker 1: to them. You've been to many Chiefs games, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: so you know that that weather is going to really
Speaker 1: affect teams like the Dolphins, who I'm looking at right
Speaker 1: now trying to find the threat to the Chiefs, and
Speaker 1: I do think it might be Tennessee. Obviously it's Buffalo,
Speaker 1: but they see you know I I I in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I just gotta see it. Tennessee would worry me a
Speaker 1: little bit and the Dolphins. But the Dolphins to me,
Speaker 1: would have to get the one seed, and I don't
Speaker 1: think that's humanly possible. When I look at the schedule,
Speaker 1: Chiefs go, Rams, Bengals, Broncos, Texans, Seahawks Broncos again Vegas.
Speaker 1: That's the Chiefs coming home schedule. Yeah, maybe there's one
Speaker 1: loss in there, maybe too, but they can afford it.
Speaker 1: They could afford it. Dolphins go Texans, they go at Niners,
Speaker 1: at charge, at Bills, and they get to beat your packers.
Speaker 1: But here's what I think will be really interesting about
Speaker 1: the Dolphins New Year's Day. They're on the road in
Speaker 1: New England. It's going to be freezing cold. I listened
Speaker 1: to Mike Lombardi a lot. I hope we get to
Speaker 1: have Mike Lombardi on the show. He brought up great
Speaker 1: points about we need to see two in cold weather
Speaker 1: to really get a sense of how far this Dolphins
Speaker 1: team could go. That might be the litmus test. Right,
Speaker 1: we'll get a little taste at Buffalo. But then yeah,
Speaker 1: New Year's Day at New England, which is a very
Speaker 1: good defense. We're gonna learn a lot about the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to what you're saying about
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and who can beat them. And I was
Speaker 1: looking at their two losses. First one to the Colts,
Speaker 1: remember that when they made so many states and miss
Speaker 1: ques and Indie just got the better of him that day.
Speaker 1: That game, that was the one going off final drive
Speaker 1: of the half when they went for a field goal.
Speaker 1: Mahomes was pissed and he went over to the sideline
Speaker 1: and had some words with the enemy. Okay, so that
Speaker 1: was that game. And then it was the Bills obviously
Speaker 1: beating them at Arrowhead, where Josh Allen gave one of
Speaker 1: his best performances. He was fantastic, but Mahomes was also
Speaker 1: fantastic that day. So it's tough. You look at anyone
Speaker 1: who can just slow down their passing game. The best
Speaker 1: passing attack in the NFL, I was looking at that.
Speaker 1: The best past defenses in the a f C. Well,
Speaker 1: that's Denver in New England, and I don't think they're
Speaker 1: even in the conversation because they can't compete on the
Speaker 1: other side of the ball anyways, So I think Kansas
Speaker 1: City is safe. I really do Bills in the playoffs though.
Speaker 1: Those two teams match up well for whatever reason, and
Speaker 1: they always give us a thriller. So again, if there's
Speaker 1: someone who can cut their season short, you get a
Speaker 1: really good night from Josh Allen as he heals up.
Speaker 1: They meet in January. I don't know, but yeah, you
Speaker 1: said earlier, Mahomes MVP favorite coming into the weekend with
Speaker 1: Josh Allen struggling in the last couple of weeks, and
Speaker 1: he put up a performance to stay that way. His
Speaker 1: odds are minus one. Alan hurts to uh. They're all
Speaker 1: tied next at plus six hundreds, So it seems like
Speaker 1: it's Mahomes trophy to win here. Yeah. The real concerns
Speaker 1: if any with the Chiefs are obviously health. Nice to
Speaker 1: have Tony healthy, but nice to have Edwards Hilaire healthy.
Speaker 1: Nicole Hardman would be nice to have him healthy. Defensively
Speaker 1: not really doing it and who knows defenses to me with.
Speaker 1: Once you get into the late into the season, it's
Speaker 1: all about who can get hot. We saw the Bengals defense,
Speaker 1: which was terrible most of the year last year, and
Speaker 1: then they got really hot along with their offensive line
Speaker 1: and they went on that run. So I do worry
Speaker 1: a little b about the defense. But I will say yes,
Speaker 1: the Bills for sure, because they have their loaded they
Speaker 1: can go toe to toe, and they have a little
Speaker 1: bit better of a defense. I would not overlook. And
Speaker 1: we've always done this the Titans because we mentioned those
Speaker 1: cold Kansas City conditions. Tennessee has a blueprint to win cold, freezing,
Speaker 1: cold weather games. They have a really good defense, really
Speaker 1: well coach. If they get healthy. The Derrick Henry factor,
Speaker 1: I think, to me, it goes Chiefs, Bills, Titans. I'm
Speaker 1: a little scared of the Titans. If I'm the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, especially after seeing him in person this
Speaker 1: past weekend, because they just showed they don't need Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry all the time. They can do it through the
Speaker 1: air and and that was a cold game, Jerry. And
Speaker 1: if they're built for cold weather, they could pass in
Speaker 1: cold weather too. So yeah, Pagans are scary, But for me,
Speaker 1: it's just the Bills. I think this is going to
Speaker 1: repeat because remember when the Bills and Chiefs met a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. It eerily resembled their last playoff meetings.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like we're going to get this
Speaker 1: game on repeat. And how lucky are we as NFL
Speaker 1: fans to watch these two duel it out over and
Speaker 1: over before we get to the interview, And we got
Speaker 1: to wrap up from football to football, So just before
Speaker 1: we get to the interview, we gotta pay a little
Speaker 1: credit here to the World Cup. It was really fun.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've got to watch USA and Wales.
Speaker 1: I hate ties, like I hate that soccer does this
Speaker 1: to us, and the group setting is kind of confusing.
Speaker 1: You did a great job last week with Tim Howard
Speaker 1: figuring that one out, but he really laid it out
Speaker 1: what he thinks the USA can do and he thinks
Speaker 1: it ends on Black Friday when they face England. Yeah,
Speaker 1: first of all, for those of you who listened to
Speaker 1: that episode, Olivia kind of did a magic trick and
Speaker 1: disappeared for the Tim Howard interview. You had to travel,
Speaker 1: and we always tape on Tuesday's Tim schedule only allowed
Speaker 1: it Wednesday. I believe you booked your trip for Wednesday,
Speaker 1: being a good podcast host, so you kept so. And
Speaker 1: of course I love soccer football, whatever we want to
Speaker 1: call it. I'm a fan. But things that fall out
Speaker 1: of your rotation a little bit when you start having kids,
Speaker 1: like UFC for me fell a little bit out and
Speaker 1: soccer fell a little bit out. That being, said Tim Howard,
Speaker 1: I mean I felt bad. We talked Knicks for five
Speaker 1: minutes of my great a half. I had the Ministry
Speaker 1: of Defense on the podcast, and we're talking Nicks. But
Speaker 1: we were talking Nicks off there. I will say. When
Speaker 1: that social clip went up, a lot of my wife's
Speaker 1: friends texted, who's that? Who is that guy? Yeah? Tim,
Speaker 1: good looking gentleman, good looking, handsome as all. Yes, good
Speaker 1: looking man, c J. This is always my heat check
Speaker 1: to see if my husband listened to the show. Now,
Speaker 1: I've I've said two men in our open are really
Speaker 1: handsome guys. I've said Matt Laflores the most handsome coach.
Speaker 1: This is how I know what weeks. My husband gets
Speaker 1: too busy to listen. Yeah, he's busy. Sam's got you know,
Speaker 1: he's hooping. So yeah, Sam, if you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: send send a text right now to give her some
Speaker 1: kind of emoji that lets you know that you're listening. Okay,
Speaker 1: So England beat Iran six two, which is really dominating.
Speaker 1: So the USA is a heavy underdog plus five fifty.
Speaker 1: We don't know if they can pull off the upset.
Speaker 1: This will be on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving. That
Speaker 1: will be a lot of fun. I wish I was
Speaker 1: still in London for this one because to be at
Speaker 1: one of those pubs and I'd wear all my USA stuff,
Speaker 1: that would be a blast. Yeah, it is weird you
Speaker 1: leave London and then all this is kicking off, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be a blast. I mean, is it really like,
Speaker 1: is there any chance that you you know, I just
Speaker 1: feel like it's such a good vibe. I really feel
Speaker 1: like American more American sports like football and stuff, could
Speaker 1: learn a lot from football crowds. Right. It's just you
Speaker 1: can just see how far behind are in the sport.
Speaker 1: Like my husband always says, imagine if the USA is
Speaker 1: best athletes all committed to soccer at like six years old.
Speaker 1: You know it's yeah, picture Lebron James played soccer even
Speaker 1: like a Russell Westbrook on the side field, with that
Speaker 1: kind of athleticism and strength. No offense to our team.
Speaker 1: My gosh. But yeah, hey, we got the tie. Let's
Speaker 1: see what they can do Friday. If you're looking for
Speaker 1: more NFL bets for this weekend, make sure you listen
Speaker 1: to the end of the episode. That's when we bring
Speaker 1: in Peter Andrew. Then we'll get down to the nitty gritty.
Speaker 1: But first, let's go ahead and bring it on my breast. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's bring in our guests. During his career with the
Speaker 1: New York Giants, he put up two different thousand of
Speaker 1: our rushing seasons. Was part of two super Bowl winning teams,
Speaker 1: which I took a lot of joy in watching. Once
Speaker 1: a Giant, always a Giant. I'm a hid Shaw is here.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me, man,
Speaker 1: it's a blessing. I appreciate you guys for having me.
Speaker 1: So I gotta ask. Those Super Bowls meant so much
Speaker 1: to the Giant fandom and all that. But number one,
Speaker 1: where are the rings? And number two do you actually
Speaker 1: wear the rings? Like? Do you find moments to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna wear my ring? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got one on right now. You know what. I've wore
Speaker 1: these rings the last month. That's it. That's the only time.
Speaker 1: I've worn them since, you know, since we got them.
Speaker 1: And uh, the second one we got it was actually
Speaker 1: like two pieces and the top piece came off. So
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get that fixed now. Tiffany's has it
Speaker 1: right at the moment. They're trying to help me get
Speaker 1: that fixed. It just happened like last week and yeah,
Speaker 1: I was wearing both of them now yeah I got one,
Speaker 1: so yeah, why yeah, why have you just started wearing
Speaker 1: them recently? You know what I just did. My mom
Speaker 1: bank in a lock box for so long and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, Mom, this is this is the time.
Speaker 1: I guess, um, you know, in six years removed from
Speaker 1: the NFL now, so yeah, you know, I guess. You know,
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of I mean, I've had a
Speaker 1: lot of love from the giant stands and I appreciate
Speaker 1: those guys. Uh you know, it just brings pride to
Speaker 1: them to a lot of people when I have them
Speaker 1: on and they want pictures with them and you know,
Speaker 1: just old two rings up and and you know, and
Speaker 1: show what the appreciation it's. It's it's just easy for
Speaker 1: them to appreciate the fans that way. So when you
Speaker 1: wash your hands, do you take them off when you
Speaker 1: work out, to take them off, because I even have
Speaker 1: to take off like my wedding rings. I didn't wear
Speaker 1: them for so long because they was always taking them
Speaker 1: off and taking them on or putting them on and
Speaker 1: and doing different things with them, and they come slinging
Speaker 1: off my hands. I ain so swollen. During the football season,
Speaker 1: you know, we beat up. So I've talked to a
Speaker 1: lot of guys. The rings don't fit because our hands
Speaker 1: are so big, and we we were measuring during season
Speaker 1: and they're just they don't fit. At this moment, our
Speaker 1: hands go back down to the normal size. No one
Speaker 1: knows that, right, They don't know. Obviously. I know both
Speaker 1: of those rings mean a lot to you. But if
Speaker 1: you just reflect back, which super Bowl pops into your mind?
Speaker 1: Which one pops into your mind first? The first one
Speaker 1: was it was just a ride for me. Man. We
Speaker 1: had an amazing team. My hat goes off to all
Speaker 1: those guys. Derek Ward went down in the fourteenth game
Speaker 1: of the season. He was able to give him my opportunity.
Speaker 1: I guess you know. We were talking the other day
Speaker 1: and and Tiki, Derek Gordon, Brandon Jacobs, We're all together
Speaker 1: Derek Gord was thinking Tiki for retiring because he would
Speaker 1: have never had a chance. And I was thinking Tiki
Speaker 1: for retiring because I never I might have never been
Speaker 1: a Giant and got drafted in seventh round to the Giants.
Speaker 1: So so we were just thinking about that situation and
Speaker 1: then we ended up winning the Super Bowl. I ended
Speaker 1: up winning the Super Bowl my rookie year. So it
Speaker 1: was just a blas him man, and and to be
Speaker 1: able to get that chance Derek board the bad thing
Speaker 1: with him going down, but just my shot, and you know,
Speaker 1: I just try to take advantage of it. They handed
Speaker 1: me the ball in Buffalo game that season, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, I took an eighty eight yards and that
Speaker 1: was just like the start of my career and and
Speaker 1: you know, I just try not to look back. So
Speaker 1: it's obviously Thanksgiving today. This week, all the Thanksgiving football slate,
Speaker 1: you hear a lot an adage of there's two NFL
Speaker 1: seasons pree Thanksgiving and post Thanksgiving. So first of all,
Speaker 1: did you ever play on Thanksgiving? And do you also
Speaker 1: feel like there is a shift after this holiday? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think I've played on Thanksgiving, played around it
Speaker 1: and happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Yes you too, thank you know,
Speaker 1: thank all my teammates, thank the giants, you know, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and thankful for my family and God. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember playing on that day. But after
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving it gets code. It turns into real football. Teams
Speaker 1: don't like to tackle, and when it's code, like to
Speaker 1: tackle is raining. So as a running back, I love
Speaker 1: it after Thanksgiving because nobody wants to hit nobody, you know,
Speaker 1: nobody wants to tackle, and you can run through arm
Speaker 1: tackles all day. So it turns into real football for me.
Speaker 1: That's real football, running the ball and like hard nosed football.
Speaker 1: So it turns into real football from me after Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I like it. I love watching
Speaker 1: it after football, and it's it's it's so exciting. I
Speaker 1: think it's more exciting because it brings the teams out.
Speaker 1: It shows the team's personalities. It shows if teams can
Speaker 1: come back after injuries after the second part of the season.
Speaker 1: And that's what we did with you know, after our
Speaker 1: both our super bowls. Actually we had a lot of
Speaker 1: guys come back the middle of the season and it
Speaker 1: was like, you know, it was like a whole new
Speaker 1: team after that. You know, we have like a Justin
Speaker 1: Tuck come back in the middle of season, like what
Speaker 1: we got Justin tuck oc you know, straight hand, like
Speaker 1: all these guys and our defense is good. We're good,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean. So it's like it really shows
Speaker 1: the personality of these teams, and I think, uh, it
Speaker 1: really shows how good these things are really going to
Speaker 1: be at this time before we start talking about the
Speaker 1: current Giants. The last thing I always wanted to ask,
Speaker 1: and I actually had the chance to talk to Strahan
Speaker 1: about this a little bit. But going back to that
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl, obviously Patriots going from defeated, I remember
Speaker 1: that final game of the season where Patriots are playing
Speaker 1: for undefeated regular season. I believe you guys already had
Speaker 1: your playoff spot locked up. Didn't we need the game,
Speaker 1: But it was the last game of the season, the
Speaker 1: last effort to beat these Patriots, and I believe coach
Speaker 1: Coughlin played all the starters and that was an excellent game.
Speaker 1: I think it was a fourth quarter Randy Moss touchdown
Speaker 1: that like ended it. But that was a nose for nose,
Speaker 1: Like do you feel like you left an imprint on
Speaker 1: the Patriots that game, because that's such a great regular
Speaker 1: season game that you didn't even need well, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think they did. You know what, I didn't play
Speaker 1: that game. That was the beauty of it for me.
Speaker 1: You know, after that Buffalo game, we we got into
Speaker 1: the playoffs with the Buffalo game, and I took a
Speaker 1: show out in the knee that game, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: able to play the Patriots game. So to be able
Speaker 1: to come back and find the Patriots with me feeling
Speaker 1: like without me and not having a chance and were
Speaker 1: almost having that chance of beating them in a regular
Speaker 1: season I felt like we could beat them anyway. I
Speaker 1: just felt like that I had to be a difference maker,
Speaker 1: and that's what I tried to do in the in
Speaker 1: the player in the championship game, of course, but we
Speaker 1: had played them in the preseason, you know, we played
Speaker 1: them in that regular season game. For any NFL team,
Speaker 1: it's tough to be any other NFL team three times,
Speaker 1: two times in the same season. So to be able
Speaker 1: to play them three times that season and and you know,
Speaker 1: to do win the big one was you know, that's
Speaker 1: a small we can know. You mentioned the Rich Giants
Speaker 1: running back history I even go back to the Joe
Speaker 1: Morris days. Giants have always that's kind of been the
Speaker 1: blueprint to me watching all those years. It's defense and
Speaker 1: a running game, and you're right, it gets cold and
Speaker 1: teams don't want to tackle. So we fast forward to
Speaker 1: the present day. Obviously, Giants have a great running back
Speaker 1: and seek on the darkly and Daniel Jones rushing the
Speaker 1: ball a little bit. So I feel like, obviously the
Speaker 1: NFL has become a passing league, but if you really
Speaker 1: look around quarterbacks, there's it's like three or four amazing
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and then everyone kind of bunched together. I feel
Speaker 1: like we're separating some of these teams or the teams
Speaker 1: I would be most afraid of are the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: or the Giants, teams that have these good running backs
Speaker 1: and solid enough defenses. So, just what's your observation of
Speaker 1: the season so far, and especially looking at like the
Speaker 1: running back position in general. Honestly, I think the running
Speaker 1: backs take a lot of pressure off these quarterbacks. Man,
Speaker 1: we don't get the props for that. I mean I
Speaker 1: felt like even when I played ELI or need to
Speaker 1: be pressured a lot, and I was there to say
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I took pride in saving Eli.
Speaker 1: You know, I took pride in blocking for Eli, you know,
Speaker 1: as a running back just as well as the lineman do.
Speaker 1: And we don't get that that fame for that, we
Speaker 1: don't get paid for that. But I think we as
Speaker 1: running backs, I think we take a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: off the quarterbacks and I think we make their job
Speaker 1: a lot easier by running the ball and putting pressure
Speaker 1: on the defense. They can't keep eight nine in the
Speaker 1: box if if we got a good quarterback and a
Speaker 1: good running back just running the ball and and good
Speaker 1: receivers that can catch the ball. But and that's what
Speaker 1: helped our our championship teams. We had three great running
Speaker 1: backs as in Earth Winning Fire, Derek Board, Brandon Jacobs
Speaker 1: and I and then Brendan Jacobs has thunder and Lightning
Speaker 1: and all the guys that helped us and backed us up.
Speaker 1: And then you know, in those errors, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: I felt like we were great and we were the
Speaker 1: best at that time, and I think we took a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure off you know, Eli throwing into Plexico
Speaker 1: and tumor and Steve Smith's and you know, in the
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl and by Mario Manning and mar kem
Speaker 1: Nicks and Hickson and those guys in the in the
Speaker 1: next Super Bowl. So and they played a huge part
Speaker 1: in Eli was a great quarterback. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think we helped with that pressure running the ball
Speaker 1: and putting that pressure on the defense. So, actually, speaking
Speaker 1: of that first Super Bowl, Tom Coughlin says, you had
Speaker 1: one of the biggest players of that game. And it's
Speaker 1: not really talked about. I'm sure you're asked about it frequently,
Speaker 1: but this is our first time to ask you. In
Speaker 1: the first half, there's a bad handoff on a drawl,
Speaker 1: you fumble, it looks like the Patriots are cover and
Speaker 1: somehow you come away with the ball. How in the
Speaker 1: world did you come away with that? What do you
Speaker 1: remember in that play? Yeah, Tom, he just talked to
Speaker 1: me about that. I've just seen a lot of real
Speaker 1: We had a huge signing this weekend for all the Giants,
Speaker 1: and uh, a lot of guys say that that was
Speaker 1: one of the biggest plays. You know what. I've always
Speaker 1: felt like, and I've had a lot of coaches tell
Speaker 1: me that they go on the doghole with me, the
Speaker 1: foxhold with me, they go down the back alley with me.
Speaker 1: And I've always felt like if I'm at the bottom
Speaker 1: of a pile and there's a football at the bottom
Speaker 1: of it, I know I'm gonna come out with it.
Speaker 1: So uh like that's just that was just my my,
Speaker 1: mom my, momo, my, just my mentality, Like so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just got my hands in there on the ball
Speaker 1: on a three hunder pound guy who had the ball
Speaker 1: you know, secure here and and was able to get
Speaker 1: it out. I don't know how it came. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, do we want to know what happens
Speaker 1: in the bottom of this pile? So it's a lot,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I was just lucky enough to happen my
Speaker 1: hand right on the ball, pull it out and I
Speaker 1: was able to show the ball to the ref like
Speaker 1: reff I got it and then go back and get
Speaker 1: pulled out back into the pile and you know a
Speaker 1: little more. But yeah, and I was able to get
Speaker 1: out and show that. But yeah, it was tough to
Speaker 1: come out with their ball and I don't know how
Speaker 1: it happened, but you like, that's my mentality. I've watched
Speaker 1: that clip today times alone, just today, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I can tell you how you did it? You literally
Speaker 1: just you grabbed it like it is if your life
Speaker 1: depended on it. There was an urgency that I've never
Speaker 1: seen anyone in a fumble scrum before, and those circumstances
Speaker 1: where I and also a little bit of a performance
Speaker 1: where like you got in there. Maybe it wasn't right
Speaker 1: on time, but just enough and we could talk David
Speaker 1: Tyree all we want, and Plexico and Kevin Boss had
Speaker 1: a huge cat in that game. But that play may
Speaker 1: have just absolutely saved the day. You're right, You're right,
Speaker 1: like you said, my life depended on that one, Ricky.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't let that happen. You know whenn't
Speaker 1: it wasn't clean the handoff. It wasn't a clean hand
Speaker 1: off you. I won't put that all on you. Wasn't
Speaker 1: like you just yeah, a little towards the shoulder pad,
Speaker 1: not really in the bread basket. It was soder badge,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's cool, Eli, you know I
Speaker 1: love you. Okay, There's another specific play I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about. It's in the next Super Bowl. There's
Speaker 1: about a minute left in the fourth quarter, Pats up
Speaker 1: by two, You're milking the clock in a field goal,
Speaker 1: will win. I don't want to give Brady. You don't
Speaker 1: want to give Brady the ball back. Obviously Eli gives
Speaker 1: you the ball. It looks like you're about to stop.
Speaker 1: You bend down and then score. So you got to
Speaker 1: settle this once and for all for us. Did you
Speaker 1: try and stop? Did someone tell you to stop? You
Speaker 1: know what, we never talked about it. They call play.
Speaker 1: They called running play. As I'm getting the ball, Eli says, hut,
Speaker 1: I'm getting the ball, handing off, grabbing the ball, y'all,
Speaker 1: I says, don't score it on score, and I hear
Speaker 1: him of them going last. You know, so many people screaming,
Speaker 1: I got lineman spreading out like this is getting out
Speaker 1: my way. I'm just like, what's going on? Like? And
Speaker 1: they just let me run straight through. You know, at
Speaker 1: the one yard line, that's when it really clicked, like
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? So at that point
Speaker 1: you can declare down by tapping the ground. So I
Speaker 1: figured if they if I declared down, tap the ground,
Speaker 1: they called me down there it didn't happen. And then
Speaker 1: my momentum. I've never been told not to score in
Speaker 1: my life, so I mean, as a running back, you
Speaker 1: score every time. So I've never been told that either,
Speaker 1: So in my mind, I'm like, what should I do?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it just ended up with me
Speaker 1: sitting in the end zone and falling back into the
Speaker 1: end zone like it was. It was a sparing moment thing.
Speaker 1: We should have talked about it a little earlier, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it just surprised me. And yeah, I've never been in
Speaker 1: that predicament. Me. I was thinking game winning touchdown, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking anything could happen after that, you know,
Speaker 1: feel feel go, they could you know, bad snap, shink,
Speaker 1: fiel go anything games over, we lose, you know, so
Speaker 1: I never know what's gonna go on in that moment
Speaker 1: or after that moment. So and you know, Tom Brady
Speaker 1: could as well just went down the field and and score.
Speaker 1: He was close with the ground. My heart stopped or
Speaker 1: grunts right there, and my heart stopped for a second.
Speaker 1: Had coaches just looking me in my eyes as dropping
Speaker 1: down the field, and I'm like, dude, please, I'm hurting
Speaker 1: right now too. So I'm scared to death to West
Speaker 1: Welker dropping passes or whoever was dropping passes. I was happy,
Speaker 1: like it was just crazy, crazy and emotional point right there, listen.
Speaker 1: That play though, has aged well to me because when
Speaker 1: you watch football now and I rant on this show
Speaker 1: all the time, I mean, the kicking game is probably
Speaker 1: the most unstable part of all of football. Like I
Speaker 1: always say, I don't know why the NFL said let's
Speaker 1: move the extra point back and make it harder, because
Speaker 1: it just added to missed extra points and block and
Speaker 1: the same thing. Um, I think it's today's day with
Speaker 1: how bad kicking has been, with the exception of like
Speaker 1: three or four kickers in the Super Bowl. You know what,
Speaker 1: take the touchdown, give me the points. We're gonna really
Speaker 1: leave this up to a snap, a hold in a
Speaker 1: kick with the way kickers are going today, no way.
Speaker 1: So I think you're that play to me ages really
Speaker 1: really well to well. Shout out to Lawrence Times for
Speaker 1: kicking our way. That's my guy, man. But I had
Speaker 1: to go ahead, So let's talk about the Giants right
Speaker 1: now for a minute. Um, and again we're taping this
Speaker 1: before the Cowboy game. I know you we were Cowboy
Speaker 1: fan growing up? Is that true? You were a Cowboy
Speaker 1: fan a little bit? I mean I was. I was
Speaker 1: a It's fan manyving and of course my role Bottle
Speaker 1: Emma smith Man. My game was after him, and no,
Speaker 1: no question, I loved I love em Smith. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was a huge fan man. But the day I got drafted,
Speaker 1: that all changed. You know. I wanted to destroy the
Speaker 1: Cowboys every time I've seen him, and that's the rival
Speaker 1: in in that game to the Giants Cowboys games. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's bloodshaid that game and and
Speaker 1: we I guess it's Cowboys with anybody, but Giants and
Speaker 1: Cowboys is always a great game. Ro teams are always
Speaker 1: you know, fighting for a spot or you know, fighting
Speaker 1: each other for a spot most of the time. So
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the game to day. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see what's gonna go on. I hope our
Speaker 1: running game can get going and the pressure, you know,
Speaker 1: they can keep the pressure off Daniel and let him
Speaker 1: do what he does many I've told everybody I believe
Speaker 1: in in Daniel. I think he can use his feet. Well,
Speaker 1: I think he uses his feet to get him out
Speaker 1: of trouble a lot. Also think that you know, our
Speaker 1: receivers catching the pall will help a whole lot more too,
Speaker 1: when you mentioned the run game of the Giants, the
Speaker 1: run game of the Cowboys. Now we see both Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard and Zike Elliott getting there's what are you see
Speaker 1: in those two backs in particular because a lot of
Speaker 1: people think Pollard's the future and he's gonna be one
Speaker 1: of the great. Honestly, I love Pollar's game, and he's strong,
Speaker 1: he's shifty, he can do a little bit of everything. Zeke,
Speaker 1: you know, he has his days, and you know, I
Speaker 1: would like to see more from him. I would like
Speaker 1: to see see him get another another contract. I would
Speaker 1: like to love. I love to see running backs do
Speaker 1: good in this league. You want Zeke to get even
Speaker 1: more money there and paid so much that guy got
Speaker 1: his bag. Well, I just don't. I'm saying it in
Speaker 1: a sense that Pollard's coming and running backs. Running backs
Speaker 1: contracts don't last forever, and you know, you might see
Speaker 1: a ton of years on there. But we you know,
Speaker 1: I had a four year contract and only did two
Speaker 1: of it. So we get destroyed in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a great thing. But I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. But the running backs, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't get the praise. We don't we don't get
Speaker 1: what we deserve, and uh, Like I said, I think
Speaker 1: a two back system is great. Having that takes a
Speaker 1: lot off off the running backs. And I think you're
Speaker 1: running back staff with the two ec system, I think
Speaker 1: they will develop a whole lot better. I think they
Speaker 1: will make a team a lot more, a lot better,
Speaker 1: you know, injury wise, even better. That's even better. But
Speaker 1: that's just hard, hard to rely on on the third
Speaker 1: back in certain in certain situations. So but you know
Speaker 1: that's uh, that two back system with with the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a dangerous system. Like I say, but Tyler,
Speaker 1: you know I love it. I love his upside. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: listen and definitely enjoy the games. Thank you for coming.
Speaker 1: I hope you can maybe find some time because I'm
Speaker 1: hoping the Giants will be in the playoffs, so maybe
Speaker 1: we could have you back on to do a little
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Giants playoff preview if we could just get
Speaker 1: there please, I'm hoping. Man. Uh, you know that's my team. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm sticking to it. These are my guys. I love
Speaker 1: the organization and you know they take still take care
Speaker 1: of me. The fans still love me, and you know,
Speaker 1: Giants for life. Maybe listen, I as a Giants fan. Again,
Speaker 1: I lead the show off with this, I will never
Speaker 1: be mad at the Giants, even if they're struggling, and
Speaker 1: they have struggled in the last few years for sure,
Speaker 1: but the joy from those two Super bowls, uh, I
Speaker 1: will always just roll with it and trust that they
Speaker 1: get it. Can I ask one more question? Okay, it
Speaker 1: pertains to Eli Manning. I feel like he safely gets
Speaker 1: put in the like dorky quarterback category, and I think
Speaker 1: that's fair. It's it's no knock to him. Another guy
Speaker 1: who's in the just seems like a bit of a square. Okay,
Speaker 1: Peyton too, Okay, Hey, So my question is we see
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, who I think also kind of fits that mold.
Speaker 1: We saw him wearing a chain, partying on the plane,
Speaker 1: having fun as guys love him. Is there a story
Speaker 1: like that that maybe didn't make social media arounds like
Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins video did, Like, is there behind the
Speaker 1: scenes story with the Eli where you're like, oh, Eli's
Speaker 1: Eli is actually pretty cool? Elves cool man. He's yeah,
Speaker 1: the videos that these names making down, that's that's Eli, dude.
Speaker 1: He's He's that way at all times. He's he's he's
Speaker 1: a clown, he's a jokester, and he's the funniest guy.
Speaker 1: Uh you know. Other than that, I mean he's he's
Speaker 1: just about business man. I mean, that's why it looks
Speaker 1: like these guys are about business at that point, and
Speaker 1: that's their jobs, you know him when they're on the
Speaker 1: camera or when you know over there on the field,
Speaker 1: they have to be about business. It's the quarterbacks they
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a tough job. And U I mean
Speaker 1: anywhere around the league. I mean, I'm sure any quarterbacks
Speaker 1: going through it and any quarterbacks more focused than they've
Speaker 1: ever been. But yeah, just seems that way. But behind doors, yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll see any of that with the Eli, like he's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a turn of the fund in those years
Speaker 1: of winning Super Bowls and ELI made it that way.
Speaker 1: I feel like he doesn't brag enough about beating Tom
Speaker 1: Brady twice. Do you think he needs to brag? Moore?
Speaker 1: That's not Eli. It's not him. Yeah, it's not him,
Speaker 1: but he's you know, even don't know it. Look, I
Speaker 1: love him for basically calling Peyton's second Super Bowl to question.
Speaker 1: He used it to Peyton on the Monday night broadcast
Speaker 1: when uh, he said, you only have one ring, the
Speaker 1: defense one, that second one. Hey, you aren't even there,
Speaker 1: so I'm with you. Listen. Yeah, hopefully we're having another
Speaker 1: discussion in January, and it's always it's over some playoff games.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You can follow I'm out on
Speaker 1: Twitter on my Bradshaw and go Giants. Thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on on leash, Yes, sir, Thank you guys. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me big fans. I appreciate I'll keep
Speaker 1: up with you guys. Yeah, every Thanksgiving. Oh you havy. Thanks. Okay,
Speaker 1: I finally finished season four and here's what I know.
Speaker 1: Median is blocked. It was really fun to shop it
Speaker 1: around when you guys were in Can Not Con or
Speaker 1: cans Can. All of the visual stimulation of those episodes
Speaker 1: when you were in Can was so fun to watch,
Speaker 1: Like I felt like I was watching a movie that
Speaker 1: was a blast. First, you got to tell me about
Speaker 1: that trip, and did you shoot all of it there?
Speaker 1: So we did not shoot all of it there, but
Speaker 1: we shot a lot of it there. First time I
Speaker 1: ever left the country in my life, I think that
Speaker 1: was seven when we shot that. Yeah, we didn't really
Speaker 1: travel my growing up. And then I moved to l
Speaker 1: A when I was nineteen on my own and I
Speaker 1: was grinding, so never left the country at that point,
Speaker 1: so I had to obviously get my passport. Never had
Speaker 1: the passport year. Probably two days before we're all leaving
Speaker 1: for can and it's like, we have forty eight hours
Speaker 1: to shoot. We're gonna get there, shoot for forty eight hours,
Speaker 1: turn right back and come back home. I could not
Speaker 1: find my brand new passport. This thing was missing. When
Speaker 1: I say it was a cold case, there was people
Speaker 1: involved with production came and searched my house, in my
Speaker 1: car and my trailer and everything gone. Passport gone. We're
Speaker 1: leaving in two days, so I had to go down
Speaker 1: to like the Federal building downtown l A. Paid twelve
Speaker 1: to expedite a passport, which I got the morning of
Speaker 1: the flight. And then after I checked in we got
Speaker 1: on the plane, I showed my passport. They I think
Speaker 1: one of our producers held my passport from me so
Speaker 1: I don't lose it again. So that happened. Then we
Speaker 1: get to France, and yeah, it was just amazing because
Speaker 1: the actual festival was going on when we shot there.
Speaker 1: So when you see that red carpet when we pull
Speaker 1: up at the end. That was actually the red carpet
Speaker 1: for Ocean's thirteen, which premiered there. So the whole plan
Speaker 1: was we're going to keep all of the there's a
Speaker 1: thousand oparazzi and photographers on the red carpet. You got
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt and I think Angelina Jolie at the time,
Speaker 1: and George Clooney. So we were in a car waiting.
Speaker 1: We had one shot at that scene and we it's
Speaker 1: like where we get out of the car and Drama
Speaker 1: sees his girl that he likes, and I had the
Speaker 1: first line getting out of the car. So we're waiting
Speaker 1: with Alwaukee talkie the minute and I think it ironically
Speaker 1: was Scott con who will be on Entourage later. He
Speaker 1: was the last cast member who walks into the theater
Speaker 1: for the Oceans premiere. They basically gave all thousand photographers.
Speaker 1: Vince's like a picture of Adrian saying, hey, this guy's
Speaker 1: a movie star. When he comes photograph him, they call
Speaker 1: action for us, and the whole time I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: if I stumble on the first line getting out of
Speaker 1: the car, were dead. So that's probably the most pressure ever.
Speaker 1: But I hit my line and then I didn't have
Speaker 1: to say anything else. And yeah, it was pretty incredible
Speaker 1: to see at that time what the biggest movie premiere
Speaker 1: going in Can. It was just incredible, and obviously Can
Speaker 1: is a beautiful place on the water, all the hotels
Speaker 1: and cafes. It was unbelievable experience. So how many days
Speaker 1: did you say you're there? It was like two days.
Speaker 1: We got there, we rested a little bit, we shot
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, and then the next day we
Speaker 1: had tons of rehearsal leading up to that red carpet
Speaker 1: moment because we knew we only had one shot, we
Speaker 1: had six cameras, which is typically we only have two,
Speaker 1: so to cover it from every angle. And right after
Speaker 1: I think we went to the hotel, got our stuff
Speaker 1: and left because a lot of that episode was also
Speaker 1: shot back in l A. Whatever was really inside where
Speaker 1: you didn't have to be in France was back in
Speaker 1: l A. That was that red carpet moment. That was it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so did like paparazzi and other people around.
Speaker 1: By then, the show had so much attraction, it was
Speaker 1: so popular. Did people know what this was? So it
Speaker 1: did have a lot of traction. Domestically, we weren't. We
Speaker 1: were just starting to get a little more international. We
Speaker 1: had a hand out Adrian's picture and tell everyone, this
Speaker 1: is the biggest movie star on the planet. They knew
Speaker 1: a little bit, but we were not internationally a big deal. Domestically,
Speaker 1: we were growing a lot at that point, so all
Speaker 1: the photographers didn't even realize that they were being extras.
Speaker 1: And the show no zero whatsoever. But it is in
Speaker 1: in terms of TV standards, even though it's HBO and
Speaker 1: they're the budgets are great and HBO supports all this.
Speaker 1: It was a pretty epic shoot to have nice pup.
Speaker 1: Now let's get to some week twelve way drink God.
Speaker 1: I can't believe this week twelve and that's so much
Speaker 1: more with bet MGM. Betting analysts are odds on favorite
Speaker 1: Peter Andrew. Peter, welcome back. I know you're kind of
Speaker 1: licking your wounds. I told Jerry in the spirit of Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take it easy on you, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that he will oblige. I'm glad you said Betting analysts,
Speaker 1: not betting expert because change copy. The vikings changed that
Speaker 1: last week, losing both parlays, the teaser and the money
Speaker 1: line parlay because of the Vikings had a potential. We
Speaker 1: up ten units and then it took me down to zero.
Speaker 1: So not great. But from Gary, I know he's I
Speaker 1: know he's putting me on the hot seat here. So
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I take. I take the
Speaker 1: good with the bad. No one could have expected that
Speaker 1: Vikings game. Come on, so listen, Okay, you are very
Speaker 1: much on the hot seat, and I'm a big I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan. I'm trying. I try to pump you
Speaker 1: up every week. I'm gonna take a little bit different approach.
Speaker 1: I keep saying this is the week, this is the week.
Speaker 1: I am a little appalled at I'll preview at your bets.
Speaker 1: I'm altutle appalled at one of your say it's labeled
Speaker 1: a safe play to get us back. Even we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about it because I have a theory, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna dive in this. The Vikings were a blood bath
Speaker 1: for you and pretty much all of it. But all right,
Speaker 1: you have ten units as always, and again we're taping
Speaker 1: this the Thursday before the games on Thanksgiving. So do
Speaker 1: you hear about some of that? You you know you
Speaker 1: might know the answer. So what is your first bet
Speaker 1: that you made, and I would like to discuss it,
Speaker 1: so leave some room for me. After you announced this,
Speaker 1: I think I know where this is going, and I
Speaker 1: think I know the one. You're gonna go against Bills Detroit.
Speaker 1: It's a home game for both. I guess you can
Speaker 1: say because this is two weeks in a row that
Speaker 1: the Bills are in Detroit playing against the Lions. These
Speaker 1: are all money line bets. By the way, so far,
Speaker 1: is this a parlay or these all straight? This is
Speaker 1: so is? Yeah, this is okay, this is a money
Speaker 1: line parlay. We're really simplifying it four of all right,
Speaker 1: so let me take a step back. We're taking a
Speaker 1: different approach this week because I've just I'm a beaten
Speaker 1: and battered man, and it's I haven't been able to
Speaker 1: sleep since Sunday, so I've just not been great. But
Speaker 1: we're taking a different approach here. The logic and this
Speaker 1: is these are four of the five best teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I expect all them to win. I'm not
Speaker 1: toying with the spread, I'm not toying with the teas.
Speaker 1: I'm just taking them to win out right. So, Bills Detroit,
Speaker 1: you got that one on Thanksgiving. Well, first, let me
Speaker 1: start with the Lions. The Lions have looked great. I
Speaker 1: think they've won three in a row. They are on
Speaker 1: a tear. But Bills are a different team. Bills don't
Speaker 1: have to travel. Bills are staying in in Detroit for
Speaker 1: the week and practicing, and I don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about any of the issues of travel taking them. Fins
Speaker 1: against the Texans, I know you're hating your Texans right now.
Speaker 1: I think you had over five and a half. Dolphins
Speaker 1: coming off by look great. Two looks great somehow favorite
Speaker 1: for m v P taking their moneyline. Niners looked awesome
Speaker 1: last night Monday Night football. I know Arizona is no good,
Speaker 1: but Niners are really clicking. And then last one, Chiefs
Speaker 1: at the Rams. Chiefs I think are the biggest favorite
Speaker 1: out of all them. Rams again without Cooper cop I'm
Speaker 1: solo on that team, and I think they're out and
Speaker 1: they're gonna start kind of packing it up for next year.
Speaker 1: So the all four of those, it's essentially and even
Speaker 1: bet minus one fifty to win around nine right there.
Speaker 1: If that hits puts us dead, and even okay, P,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop. I'm stopping here, I gotta jump in. Okay,
Speaker 1: jump in. We we're gonna go the other way to here.
Speaker 1: So you got bills are minus nine and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are minus fourteen and a half. Well,
Speaker 1: as we currently tape this, you basically have the four
Speaker 1: biggest favorites of the week. This is like the equivalent
Speaker 1: of if it's like Little League baseball and you're up
Speaker 1: at bat and the picture is a little wild and
Speaker 1: he throws at you. We're all telling you, now, like,
Speaker 1: just let it hit you, get on base, Just let
Speaker 1: the bully just let's stop moving out of the way.
Speaker 1: Let it hit you so you could get on first base,
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna make contact if you don't get
Speaker 1: get hit by the pitch. That's what I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm witnessing here. You're just trying to get on the board.
Speaker 1: You're trying to make it happen. I respect it, but
Speaker 1: in the same breath, you are literally trying to hope
Speaker 1: that the picture just hits you with the ball. Right now,
Speaker 1: those are the four biggest favorites, four biggest favorites. On
Speaker 1: base percentage is good, doesn't matter if you walk to
Speaker 1: get a hit, I get it. I genuinely think those
Speaker 1: are four of the five best teams outside of the
Speaker 1: Eagles in the NFL, so they should run the table.
Speaker 1: But get into the opposite approach I'm taking, which is
Speaker 1: essentially a hedge on concept. So it's not a hedge
Speaker 1: on the teams, but a hedge on concept. So if
Speaker 1: I can veer over, let's go to the Dogs on
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving parlay. So I think this is one that you'll like.
Speaker 1: Giants plus three, ten Pats plus one, that's plus eight
Speaker 1: sixty three, so that's twenty. I get the Giants are
Speaker 1: a big dog there, but they can beat this. This
Speaker 1: Cowboys team. Obviously everybody's all over them now after they
Speaker 1: just annihilated the Vikings, but I think that had a
Speaker 1: lot to do with the Vikings just not showing this
Speaker 1: one's spicy here. Giants Cowboys. They always keep it a
Speaker 1: close game, especially when they play big days like Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I think Giants can easily come out with a field
Speaker 1: goal win. And then, regardless of last week, Pats at
Speaker 1: the Vikings Kirk Cousins in prime time, it was an
Speaker 1: automatic fade and Bill Belichick, this has just got one
Speaker 1: of those him written all over it just completely run
Speaker 1: the show, especially after obviously what we saw last week.
Speaker 1: They only put up three points for about the game.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to come out open the offense
Speaker 1: up a little bit more. The Pats are, So this
Speaker 1: is where I'm getting at with taking a safe for
Speaker 1: have just taking favorites or getting hit by the pitch versus.
Speaker 1: Then you start to be a little bit aggressive and
Speaker 1: take the opposite way. So we're trying both angles here.
Speaker 1: And then the last one. I actually genuinely liked this
Speaker 1: one too, So Bears plus four and a half, Falcons
Speaker 1: plus four. The if you one here is is Green
Speaker 1: Bay plus seven in Philly. But I like some of
Speaker 1: these dogs to bark all three teams. Falcons at the Commanders.
Speaker 1: Falcons are a good team. Like it's weird to say it,
Speaker 1: but they're solid team. Bears are showing some signs of life.
Speaker 1: The Jets don't know what they're doing at quarterback right now.
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson looked awful last week, so I like just
Speaker 1: playing the points. They're keeping it a close, low scoring game.
Speaker 1: And then green Bay, I don't know, they're showing signs
Speaker 1: of looking better. Appreciate that against the Titans, last week.
Speaker 1: That second half was abysmal. Rogers just looks off, but
Speaker 1: guys like Christian Watson showing that they're capably in wide
Speaker 1: receiver one. I definitely think this could be a close game.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think the Eagles lose, but I think
Speaker 1: it keeps it relatively close. So that's again going against
Speaker 1: the mindset. Have just taken all the favorites plus five
Speaker 1: eight to win one thirty seven. So I've got conflicting
Speaker 1: thoughts here, but I think you have really really good
Speaker 1: teams that I'm expecting to win, and those fringe teams
Speaker 1: or teams that are fighting for something or or have
Speaker 1: a little to prove, we're gonna We're gonna take them.
Speaker 1: From an underdog point of view, you still like the
Speaker 1: Falcons even with Cole Pits out. Yeah, they don't use
Speaker 1: them anyway. The first couple of weeks of the year,
Speaker 1: I mean it felt like he was getting more or
Speaker 1: two catches. It looks like he just wasn't a focal
Speaker 1: point of the offense. Yeah, but Cordarrel Patterson back, I
Speaker 1: think really helps. Obviously helped on a hundred and five
Speaker 1: yard get returned last week. So I think they do
Speaker 1: enough again to keep it close. Don't feel confident that
Speaker 1: any of those three teams win outright, but I think
Speaker 1: those are all generally speaking, somewhat close games. That again,
Speaker 1: the Green Bay one is the one that scares me
Speaker 1: because Rogers has a couple of things wrong, it can
Speaker 1: just go completely out of sync. But then again, if
Speaker 1: Rogers does what he does on prime time Sunday in
Speaker 1: a football game like he's done for the last fifteen years,
Speaker 1: different story, Pete. I'm rooting for you, I truly am.
Speaker 1: I love the two underdog parlays. I had to look
Speaker 1: at that safe play bet for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: I don't to figure out because I don't ever think
Speaker 1: I saw a parlay that was minus before. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen someone create a minus odds parlay,
Speaker 1: but you did so. Guys, this is an interesting one
Speaker 1: for Mr Andrew because I do think he could get
Speaker 1: it all back right here. And really, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: momentum at some point. I know I'm speaking about you,
Speaker 1: like you're not here. He's gonna get momentum at some point.
Speaker 1: What better way this to bring in the holidays with
Speaker 1: a hot Peter Andrew I'm gonna print this out and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna carry this around with me on Thursday and
Speaker 1: on Sunday because I need to know. I have to
Speaker 1: track these bets the entire game, I think, the entire day.
Speaker 1: And in the spirit of giving, appreciate you not you
Speaker 1: took it somewhat easy on me, so I can appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give everything to to Our customers are fans,
Speaker 1: So forget Thursday for a second Friday, huge match USA England. Right,
Speaker 1: this is what we haven't talked about too much as
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Speaker 1: for avery customer US, a score one goal doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: If they win, they lose, they draw even money plus
Speaker 1: a hundred this holiday season, so very very patriotic. Let's
Speaker 1: let's pretend for a second. I don't do too well
Speaker 1: on these picks. You know, at least I gave you
Speaker 1: that one they're gonna score goal overs England, They're probably
Speaker 1: gonna win out right. I feel good about this USC team.
Speaker 1: They they needed to look crappy in that second half
Speaker 1: against Wales to turn the corner here and a really
Speaker 1: important matric ins England. So at least I can give
Speaker 1: my friends and family and customers. You guys that It's
Speaker 1: why I root for you, Pe. I know you want
Speaker 1: everyone to do well. I know you're not out here
Speaker 1: to help, so that's why I root for you. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: thanks again for another great week, Pete, Happy Thanksgiving, enjoy
Speaker 1: all your bets. We are cheering for you, my friend.
Speaker 1: Oh Peter Andrew, that was just your lay up segments,
Speaker 1: So prayers up for Peter. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: But one more thing before we go, and wishing everyone
Speaker 1: a happy Thanksgiving and wishing this guy happy birthday to you,
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear Jerry, Happy birthday
Speaker 1: to you, my friend, Thank you, and happy birthday for real.
Speaker 1: I know you say you're getting old, but you're you're
Speaker 1: in your prime. I could still I could still get
Speaker 1: your bucket if you need it. Okay, good, Thanks everyone
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