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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know

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Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles Chuck Bryant Chuck. Yes,

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Speaker 1: nice Chuck. We'll get to that in a second. Again,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. Chuck's barking because this is stuff you should know.

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Speaker 1: And this particular stuff you should know is entitled how

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Speaker 1: do dogs perceive time? And I said in dog language

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Speaker 1: just then, I don't perceive time. That is up for debate,

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Speaker 1: my friend, up for vigorous debate. All right, So chuck um,

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Speaker 1: let me let me do a little intro here, a

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Speaker 1: little lead in segway whatever spoiled your parade? There? What

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Speaker 1: Lead ins intros intro schmickls um Chuck. About a year ago,

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Speaker 1: well a year ago this month, Paris, well, France, Paris,

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Speaker 1: France made history, legal history. Uh, they actually used a

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Speaker 1: dog as a witness in a criminal case. Did they

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Speaker 1: get the dog to bark at someone? Wow? I kid you,

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Speaker 1: not like an intruder at the very least, and I

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Speaker 1: hope I'm not in Bangladeshi newspaper here, um, because I

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Speaker 1: found it, uh in the Daily Mail, which is not

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Speaker 1: known for satire, but it's all. It can be known

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Speaker 1: for poor reporting from time to time. So you may

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Speaker 1: have egg on your face soon we'll find out. Um.

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Speaker 1: But there was a dog named Scooby that was brought

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Speaker 1: into a doesn't I should afford to this article? Um?

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Speaker 1: There was a dog named Scooby that was brought into

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Speaker 1: a murder case or a hearing to see if there

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Speaker 1: was enough evidence to try a man for murder for

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Speaker 1: something that was ruled a suicide. And the dog barked

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Speaker 1: furiously at the alleged perpetrator and they gave him a

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Speaker 1: Scooby snack. Yeah, so that was the last I heard.

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Speaker 1: It was from a year ago, but there was some

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Speaker 1: concern over whether the dog's memory would serve it or

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Speaker 1: not because it had been two and a half years

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Speaker 1: since the incident. Okay, that makes sense, and that's kind

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Speaker 1: of key to how dogs may or may not perceive time.

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Speaker 1: The best I could come up with that great? Thanks?

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Speaker 1: So um what that what that betrays is a sense

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Speaker 1: that dogs have a memory, that they they if they

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Speaker 1: have a memory, then they should be able to perceive time. Right, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this. What is time? Well, you know

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Speaker 1: my whole deal with time, I've said it before. What

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Speaker 1: a little time is just abstract numbers on a calendar

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Speaker 1: and and hands on a watch, aren't time? Well, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about is the human constructive time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: based on twenty four hours, which all kind of arbitrary

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Speaker 1: seven days in a week. There, well, not necessarily. Here's why. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was actually kind of ingenious that we should come

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Speaker 1: up with the twenty four hour day. Because we have

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Speaker 1: these things called circadian oscillators, which are the well they're

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Speaker 1: the fluctuators in our circadian rhythm, which is what makes

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Speaker 1: us fall asleep at night, wake up in the morning,

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Speaker 1: get hungry at certain times. Neural activity, right, the neural

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Speaker 1: things like um the changes in natural light. Right, So

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Speaker 1: our our reactions to these are circadian oscillators. And if

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Speaker 1: But the circadian clocks actually exist on about a twenty

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Speaker 1: a human construct. Yeah, So what we're trying to get

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Speaker 1: past present in future exactly. And I know that one

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Speaker 1: thing that we will talk about, and maybe we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about right now is you have three dogs? Do you

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Speaker 1: have any dogs? I have two dogs? What shut up?

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Speaker 1: Chuck's puppies. Very cute. Yeah, So anyway, if your dogs

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Speaker 1: surprised for about a second. So, chuck, here is where

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Speaker 1: I'm not Jonathan's strickling your dog to do the same

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Speaker 1: which is episodic memory, which is our construction of time.

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Speaker 1: But they don't remember, you know, somebody teaching them like,

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Speaker 1: of Zental's uh examples of semantic memory, and what you've

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