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Speaker 1: How many times did he say we're gonna be back,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals in the backfield, but it's Isaiah Simmons of the

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Speaker 1: rookie to get the Russell Wilson first to force a

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Speaker 1: fund shotgun snapped. Wilson straight drop back, steps up in

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Speaker 1: the pocket, takes up running far side of the forty

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Speaker 1: and drilled by Simmons at the forty one. Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: is ball at shotguns. Nat Wilson quick throw to the left,

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Speaker 1: flat metcalf caught it at the thirty eight drop by

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons for a loss at the thirty seventyard line.

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Speaker 1: Simmons has played terrific football tonight, the rookie really starting

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Speaker 1: to get comfortable out there. You hurt the sack. He

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Speaker 1: had a team I ten tackles in that game. That

435
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Speaker 1: was the week eleven game at the Seahawks Thursday Night

436
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Speaker 1: football Wolf. I remember doing big red rage in the

437
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Speaker 1: days after the draft where he went number eight overall

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Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals, and you said you had one

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Speaker 1: big question and one only and that was just the

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Speaker 1: level of physicality. Yes he would bring to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Did he answer that question, Chris? He did, BOLLI he did.

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Speaker 1: I saw everything I wanted to see from Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: and whether or not he's willing to stick his face

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Speaker 1: into the fire. And it was just the fact that

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Speaker 1: when he got the opportunity to play inside linebacker, and

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Speaker 1: when they would line him up there the weekside inside,

447
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: that he would come downhill and take on the block

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Speaker 1: and stick his face in there, which he would, but

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Speaker 1: it was also in the open field how he went

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Speaker 1: about tackling. I think back to Cam Newton in that

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots game. Now listen, he got flagged on it, Paul.

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Speaker 1: He got flacked on It's because he hit the quarterback

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Speaker 1: too hard. Paul. I'm telling you right now he did.

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Speaker 1: And would you say, Cam Newton running is a big

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Speaker 1: man running. He is a big man running and Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Simmons put the face right on him. I realized they

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Speaker 1: threw the flag on it. I still think it was

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Speaker 1: a clean hit by Isaiah Simmons. I dispute the call,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, he answered all those questions. He heard. Rob

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Speaker 1: Frederickson there he is our guest on the Big Red Rage. Rob,

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Speaker 1: you play the position, first round pick as a linebacker.

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Speaker 1: You tell us your rookie season impressions on Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was a little of a long learning

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Speaker 1: curve for Isaiah and and let's all cut him some

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Speaker 1: slack because if you think back to his senior season

466
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Speaker 1: in Clemson, most of his snaps, the majority of his

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Speaker 1: snaps were spent in the slot, covering receivers or at

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Speaker 1: the safety position. Yeah, he didn't he wasn't up around

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage the majority of time. So, um,

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Speaker 1: I give him some slack, you know, especially early on,

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Speaker 1: it was it was a it was a tough learning

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Speaker 1: experience for him. And you know, and I think he

473
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Speaker 1: was kind of down on himself, but he dug himself

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Speaker 1: out of that, and the second half of the season

475
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Speaker 1: he really came on the light. The light bulb kind

476
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Speaker 1: of turned on and and like wolf, like you said,

477
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Speaker 1: he you know, when he's when he's getting to the

478
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Speaker 1: ball carrier, he's coming with some malice. And I love that.

479
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Speaker 1: So if your vance, Joseph rob is he automatically plugged in?

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Speaker 1: Now speaking of versatility and flexibility, is he automatically replacing

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Speaker 1: de Andre Campbell? And you're leaving him there for the

482
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Speaker 1: entirety of games because we saw him inside, we saw

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Speaker 1: him on the edge, we saw him at slock corner.

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Speaker 1: We saw him at deep safety this year. Is he

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Speaker 1: now officially an inside linebacker after Devandre Campbell? We expect

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Speaker 1: to leave, you know, after one year. One of the

487
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Speaker 1: biggest indicators to whether or not you're going to be

488
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Speaker 1: a good pro in my opinion, is that leap from

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Speaker 1: your first year to your second year. That's where you

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Speaker 1: see the biggest growth. And I think you're going to

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Speaker 1: see it from Isaiah Simmons in my opinion, Paulie, he's

492
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Speaker 1: too good of a player to ever be on the sideline. Honestly,

493
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Speaker 1: he's too good of a talent, he's too good of

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Speaker 1: an athlete, and he's fast. And this league the way

495
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Speaker 1: it is right now, you have to be fast. Speed kills.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons has it. He has to be on the

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Speaker 1: field all the time. So okay, now that's that question.

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Speaker 1: There are other questions obviously on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball, like defensive line. Jordan Phillips, you know, underwhelming

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Speaker 1: season to say the least. What about Corey Peters in

501
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Speaker 1: your estimation, here's a guy, a veteran. We know his

502
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Speaker 1: value on the field. In the locker room, there could

503
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Speaker 1: be cap restrictions where do you think he rates in

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Speaker 1: terms of importance for the Cardinals. Well, I mean, of course,

505
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Speaker 1: we all love Corey Peters and you know I'd love

506
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Speaker 1: to have him. The rookies that we signed last year,

507
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: Rashad and Lawrence and like you foe to Um, you know,

508
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: those guys have to step up now. They have to

509
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Speaker 1: step up. I don't know if Corey Peters is going

510
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Speaker 1: to be back, don't. I don't know that situation. Zach

511
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: Allen's another guy. Um, you know, he's had some injury issues,

512
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: got to stay on the field. Those are those are

513
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: just you know, there's some depth with his defensive line. Yeah,

514
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: we have a couple of possible free agents, but those

515
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: are guys that you know, have to step up and

516
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: be consistent and be available. More than anything, they have

517
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Speaker 1: to be available and we have to be able to

518
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Speaker 1: rely on them. You know, I thought Paul two as well.

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Speaker 1: I thought Advanced Joseph did an excellent job as a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. I know nobody wants to hear that out

521
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: there because everyone looks at our defense and thinks the

522
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Speaker 1: defense for the Arizona Cardinals. It stinks when actually we

523
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Speaker 1: all know what Advanced Joseph was dealing with last year

524
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Speaker 1: once again, you've got no Chandler Jones. Would you say

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Speaker 1: that's a big important part to your defense. Yeah, there's

526
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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Robert Alford, Robert Alford for two

527
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Speaker 1: years now, Robert Alford was the best corner opposite of

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Speaker 1: Pat P since Pat P has been here. I mean

529
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Speaker 1: that he is the best corner from a skill from

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Speaker 1: a talent perspective. He's the best they've ever had opposite

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Speaker 1: of Pad P. And the guy hasn't played in two

532
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: years because the two freak injuries in training camp right now.

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Speaker 1: If they can get him back, if they can get

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Speaker 1: Jayalen Thompson back on a regular basis, Polly, I loved Freddie.

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Speaker 1: What did you see from Jayleen Thompson? Because I loved

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Speaker 1: what I saw from this kid. Loved him. And you

537
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Speaker 1: know what I think is starting mate, their safety mate,

538
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker. It's like osmosis. It just wears off on

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00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: people and you're you're like, you know, when they showed

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00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: that film Wolf on Monday, I don't want I don't

541
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Speaker 1: want to see Buddha Baker flying to the ball and

542
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Speaker 1: me kind of you know, kind of getting there. No, uh,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think Buddha Baker has been good

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Speaker 1: for Jalen Thompson because Jayalen Thompson, to me, has far

545
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Speaker 1: exceeded any expectation. I really love him as a safety.

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Speaker 1: And let me just say this quickly. Right here, the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals defense number ten in passing yards per game allowed,

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Speaker 1: Number ten in passing yards per game a lot, number

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Speaker 1: seven in passing yards per play a lot POULI. You

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Speaker 1: put those two things together right there, you're a top

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Speaker 1: ten team. Now listen, it's not because teams decided to

552
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: run the ball against the Arizona Cardinals. They did that,

553
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. But when you're number seven and passing

554
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: yards per play allowed as well, that says you're buttoned up.

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Speaker 1: You know what is you're doing. You don't have a

556
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: bunch of receivers running wide open in this secondary and

557
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: there's some good coverage and some good tackling that is

558
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: going on there. It's one of the reasons why the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals were number fourteen in defensive quarterback rating. Now listen,

560
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Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, I know that quarterback

561
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Speaker 1: rating matters because the top ten. Every year you look

562
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Speaker 1: at the top ten names that are in quarterback rating

563
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: every year. Guess what, they're the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's funny the way that works. So that tells me

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Speaker 1: there's some merit there that it's a good indicator as

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Speaker 1: to how a human being is playing the quarterback position

567
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Flip it over on the

568
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: defensive quarterback rating. The fact that Arizona Cardinals were number fourteen,

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Speaker 1: I think that would shock a lot of people. Number

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Speaker 1: fourteen in the league. No Chandler Jones, as I said, No,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson for the most part. Of course, he was

572
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Speaker 1: in and out of the lineup all year long. Isaiah Simmons,

573
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Speaker 1: he didn't have a position for him, basically trying to

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Speaker 1: figure it out. I think this defense is going to

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00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: be much better in this coming season. Right Who's and

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, probably go ahead now say who's opposite of

577
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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. You know right now, Hassan Reddick Marcus Gold

578
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: both going to be unrestricted free agents. I fear Hassan

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Speaker 1: Reddick is gonna give big money from at least one

580
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: team out there. I know a lot of mock dress

581
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: have the Cardinals going edge rusher? What do you think

582
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: should happen at the spot opposite Chandler? Well, I think

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00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you're gonna have to wait and see

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Speaker 1: what happens with Hassan Reddick. You know, and back to

585
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: wolves earlier point about Van's Joseph, I mean you lose

586
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, Hassan Reddick steps up, guard deck steps up huge.

587
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean you you got so many pressures and sacks

588
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: from players from different positions in different alignments last year.

589
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: To me that that was awesome. Um, but you're right, Paul,

590
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: you know that that is an area of need for

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00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: the Cardinals that at that outside pass rush. And if

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Speaker 1: it's not Hassan Reddick, who's it going to be. Are

593
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna address it free agency or is it going

594
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: to come into draft? I don't know. I saw the

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Speaker 1: mock draft that you're talking about, Polly, and they're talking

596
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: about in the edge rusher. We'll see. But to me,

597
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: last year, what Vance Joseph did with what he was dealt,

598
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: it was pretty awesome. Well, if you're talking about one

599
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: unit that approved year over year, that past defense wolf

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00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: because you know, on a liability that wasn't twenty nineteen. Yes, Polly,

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Speaker 1: it's not just that either. It's listen, Chandler Jones. Would

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00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: you say Chandler Jones was productive, Paul, It's very productive, right,

603
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. You could make the argument he's the best

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Speaker 1: edge guy. I thought he was the best edge guy

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. When you look at Chandler

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Speaker 1: Jones and his productivity right now, when you've got that

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00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: kind of force coming off the edge, it makes the

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Speaker 1: offense more predictable, Paul. It makes the offense more predictable

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Speaker 1: because it makes their protection schemes more predictable. And when

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Speaker 1: you make the protection schemes more predictable, now all of

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00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: a sudden vance Joseph can scheme with better authority in

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Speaker 1: that regard ass to what kind of pressure packages or

613
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: blitz packages you want to bring, because you can almost

614
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: anticipate what kind of protection you're going to get with

615
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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones on the field. Take him out of the

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Speaker 1: equation now, all of a sudden, it's a little bit diceier. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and look and think about this too. Chandler Jones was

618
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Speaker 1: out with a with a torn bicep. It's not like

619
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Speaker 1: he did something to as a kill his tenant or

620
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: his knee or something. He's going to be able to

621
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Speaker 1: fly around. Okay, he's going to be back, and he's

622
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Speaker 1: going to be he's gonna have a chip on his shoulder.

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Speaker 1: I promise you that. And he's in a contract here,

624
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Speaker 1: So we go, you know, way by the way, Rob,

625
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: as he go to break here real quick. If it

626
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: comes down to edge rush or a cornerback in that

627
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Speaker 1: first round, is there a position you value more cornerback?

628
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Speaker 1: On to me, two positions of that value the most

629
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Speaker 1: cornerbacks and offensive tackles. He can never have too many

630
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Speaker 1: of them. And I don't I don't know what the position.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what situation is going to be with

632
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Pat p but we need two studs on the outside.

633
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: Let Byrne Murphy be awesome in the middle in the slot,

634
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: because I think that's where he's found a good home.

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00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Agreed Freddie So not only a guy who played nearly

636
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: a decade in the NFL, former first Trump picks, so

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Speaker 1: every snap of the Cardinals this last year, but he's

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Speaker 1: also been in a boat parade. So that's good. Wolf's

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Speaker 1: got the boot parade, Rob Frederickson has the boat parade.

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Speaker 1: So we have all angles covered Freddie. We appreciate it

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Speaker 1: here on the Big Red Range. Love you guys, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me. We continue all presented by satan Ford

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Speaker 1: and Gilbert We are satan Ford five Gold, three to go.

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Speaker 1: Someone who's run on the field, some guy with a

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Speaker 1: fraud and now he's not being chased. He's running down

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Speaker 1: the middle of a forty arms in the air and

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Speaker 1: a victory salute. He's pulling down his pants. Put off

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Speaker 1: your pants, my man, call up boast pants. He's being chased.

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Speaker 1: It up thirty. He breaks a tackle from us the

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Speaker 1: twenty down the middle of the ten, five side of

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Speaker 1: the one, and they converge on him at the goal

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Speaker 1: line and the players with him time hips at the

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Speaker 1: other end of the field of looking at him and

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Speaker 1: shaking their head and saying, why, oh why is this

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Speaker 1: taking place in a Super Bowl? Some guy who was

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Speaker 1: that guy on Super Sunday That is the great Kevin

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Speaker 1: Arlan on Westwood One. See on TV they ignore it

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Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley, but on the radio call you get some

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Speaker 1: great play by play, whether it's Kevin Harland or own

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Speaker 1: day pass. You know when there's that guy out on

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Speaker 1: the field and then eventually he gets taken down by security.

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Speaker 1: You know, why not incorporated into the game action, Paul,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't add habit at cal Berkeley all the time. Well,

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Speaker 1: that guy was on campus, actually was the naked guy,

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Speaker 1: and somehow he got away with that for a couple

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Speaker 1: of best I'm sorry, Paul. They actually got naked and

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Speaker 1: then sat in trees. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they were

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Speaker 1: up there for about two years. Actually, those people so

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Speaker 1: with the excrement buckets. But we won't go there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just just do it, I mean, stop it, just

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Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of show you're running here? Presented

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Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert. So there you go. That

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Speaker 1: was one moment from the super Bowl that suffered some

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Speaker 1: of the worst TV ratings in a long time. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, I just think Kansas City's coaches just

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Speaker 1: struggled at times to make adjustments. They look more confused

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Speaker 1: than those backup dancers for the weekend at super Bowl halftime.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't understand, Wolf. And if you're asking me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad you did even though you didn't. If

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Speaker 1: we learned something from super Bowl fifty five, I think

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Speaker 1: it's the following that it's not just a passing league.

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Speaker 1: Your past pass pass. It's defense and balanced offense still wins. Yes, Paula,

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Speaker 1: you're right about that, the balanced offense. And not only that, Paul,

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Speaker 1: can I also say, I think it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of how you run the ball as well. It's not

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Speaker 1: just running the football, it's also how you run it

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Speaker 1: as well, I think. And I was talking to Rob

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Speaker 1: about this Freddie of course Rob Frederickson on the show

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Speaker 1: joined us earlier, and talking to him about sometimes, Polly,

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Speaker 1: you got to line up and just be better than

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Speaker 1: the guy acrossroom. Sometimes you've got to put the expectation

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Speaker 1: on your offensive lineman that we're not going to deceive

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Speaker 1: the defensive front. We're not going to trick them, We're

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Speaker 1: going to truck them. We're going to move them off

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And sometimes you've got to put

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Speaker 1: that onus, I think, on your offensive lineman. But man,

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty five to me, Polly, it came down

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Speaker 1: to three possessions in that second half by the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. The two possessions at the end of the

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Speaker 1: third quarter and then the first possession into the fourth quarter. Polly,

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Speaker 1: they ran the ball fifteen times. They ran the ball

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Speaker 1: fifteen times in that situation, nine times, Polly. They were

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Speaker 1: in a power personnel group where they brought a sixth

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, Joe Haig. They brought him off the sideline

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Speaker 1: and put in there. Nine times of those fifteen times

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Speaker 1: they ran the ball. It was twenty two and twenty

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Speaker 1: three double ball. Okay, I mean we'd see that. I

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Speaker 1: mean that is Bruce arians, that is Byron Left, which

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Speaker 1: that's the play they ran, and they sucked the beating

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Speaker 1: heart of the Kansas City Chiefs right out of their chest.

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Speaker 1: If there was one play in the BA Arsenal that

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Speaker 1: managed to own a great Seahawks defense back in the day,

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Speaker 1: that was it wasn't It wasn't that their go to remember.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were up there and they didn't even

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Speaker 1: have a great offensive line at that point. Of that

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Speaker 1: point in time, BA went up there and they said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna run twenty two and twenty

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Speaker 1: three double paul. They ran at twenty three times twenty

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Speaker 1: three times. Now, listen, it wasn't like they were gashing

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks either. That's back when they were the

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Speaker 1: Legion of Boom. They had an excellent defense. They weren't

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Speaker 1: gashing them. They were running it into the pie because

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Speaker 1: the play action is what made it so effective, coming

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Speaker 1: off of running the ball like that. And look, you've

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Speaker 1: known offensive line in your whole life. Your brother was

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Speaker 1: an outstanding offensive lineman, super Bowl winning offensive lineman with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. And you don't have to ask an offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman twice to attack. They love to come off the

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Speaker 1: ball and they love to take it to a defensive front.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you get a lot of buy in

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Speaker 1: from offensive lineman when you do that as well. And

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Speaker 1: then conversely, when Kansas City had the ball right, there

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Speaker 1: wasn't much of a run game. And look what happened.

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Speaker 1: Look at the Tampa pressure on Mahomes twenty nine of

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Speaker 1: fifty six dropbacks. He got harrassed. Oh you know me

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Speaker 1: right now, I don't. I don't question play calling. I

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Speaker 1: really don't. These guys are the best of the best.

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Speaker 1: These guys know what they sit around all week or

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Speaker 1: for two weeks. When you're playing in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and you've come up with a plan as to what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do to attack this defense, they're the best

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Speaker 1: of the best. But I thought that Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: coaching staf offensively failed to realize they had two backup

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Speaker 1: tackles again, Shack Barrett and Jason Pierre Paul. Do you

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Speaker 1: know how difficult that you had to run the ball

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Speaker 1: to keep them honest on the edge. And when they

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Speaker 1: showed the Kansas City Chiefs that they weren't going to

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Speaker 1: run the ball, they came after them. Hey, the only way,

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Speaker 1: at least the best way to beat an elite quarterback

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Speaker 1: is to get after that quarterback. And they did and

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Speaker 1: it was enough even though Patrick Mahomes made some amazing

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Speaker 1: singular plays. Guess what the Tampa Bay Bucks get their

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Speaker 1: first Super Bowl win in eighteen years. Will come back

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Speaker 1: and wrap up this edition of the Big Red Rage,

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Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert, Hi. Everybody out, but

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Speaker 1: to call everybody out, it's the first period, a second period,

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Speaker 1: a third bid, a fourth period. Round. This is the curry.

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Speaker 1: Let's go just keep running and pack gunn and look

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Speaker 1: at that. There's gonna be some holes, creative, we just work.

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Speaker 1: We're getting a little distordered right now, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be fine. Just gonna have a little more patience and

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Speaker 1: it'll be there. There's a glean men there's a gleam.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the gleam. Oh, you've got Neil blocking for

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Speaker 1: LT one more time. You've got rivers under Finner left

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Speaker 1: hash from the seven yard line of the Denver Broncos

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Speaker 1: and a hand off to Tomlin. Finner left fund and

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Speaker 1: he will gallop into the end. Carter, I believe he

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Speaker 1: is the finest running back to everywhere uniform. That's how

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Speaker 1: I feel, And I don't want to embarrass him. But

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Speaker 1: for all the skills he has as a player, they

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Speaker 1: pail by comparison to the person. Well, the feeling was mutual.

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Speaker 1: Ladinia Thomason calling his former coach Marty Schottenheimer quote the

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Speaker 1: best coach I've ever had. That comes from a Hall

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Speaker 1: of fame running back in LT. As we remember in salute.

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Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer passed away this week at age seventy seven.

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Speaker 1: He was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in twenty fourteen, the eight

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Speaker 1: winning his coach in NFL history with Cleveland, Casey Washington

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Speaker 1: and the Chargers and Wolf. I'm guessing your pass crossed

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Speaker 1: in Hawaii. Probably you know what, Paul. They did. I

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Speaker 1: remember the nineteen eighty six Pro Bowl and it was

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Speaker 1: Mike Ditka for the NFC Ditga of course, and the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears coaching staff against Marty Schottenheimer and his coaching

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Speaker 1: staff for the AFC. And it was amazing because Paul,

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Speaker 1: we didn't even we just walked through to all week long.

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Speaker 1: We never even put the pads on Ditka on a Thursday,

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Speaker 1: which is a big practice week of course, when you're

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Speaker 1: getting ready to play a game on Sunday. Thursday was huge.

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Speaker 1: And we went out there and Dittga called everyone after

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Speaker 1: five minutes of being on the field, called everyone up

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Speaker 1: and said, you guys know what you're doing, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: a way, yeah, coach, way, we know we're doing. Get

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Speaker 1: out here, I got a tea time in five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Sent us home, Paul, send us home. I mean that

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Speaker 1: That's the way we were practicing all week long. And

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Speaker 1: the AFC, Paully and Marty Schottenheimer. Schottenheimer put him in pads.

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Speaker 1: Oh they were Wednesday and Thursday, Polly, they were out

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00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: there on the field and pads and they were hitting.

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Speaker 1: Had a pro bowl, you know, now again it was

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Speaker 1: more of a thought drill, but still they had the

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Speaker 1: pads on and they were hitting, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: Polly we beat him. We beat him. The NFC beat him,

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Speaker 1: right wow, well you know kicked in. You guys need

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Speaker 1: the extra cash at the end of that Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That was Marty. That was what Marty was all about.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna be a physical team,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna bash your face it. We're also remembering and

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Speaker 1: saluting Pedro Gomez, who we learned on Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 1: He passed away at age fifty eight, and for all

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Speaker 1: of us in the valley, who remember and I go

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Speaker 1: back with Pedro all the way back to the dback's

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Speaker 1: first spring training. I mean, as I said on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Underground the podcast this week, Pedro Gomez was multimedia before

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Speaker 1: there was even the term multimedia. Great beat writer, columnist,

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Speaker 1: ESPN reporter, made the transition to broadcasting, TV analyst, and

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Speaker 1: anybody who met him realized, just like what Marty Schotenheimer

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Speaker 1: said about LT he was as great a person as

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Speaker 1: he was in the media, he was an even better

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Speaker 1: man overall. You know what, Paula was going through a

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Speaker 1: rough patch in my life, as you well know, way

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Speaker 1: back can hear the turn of the century and if

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Speaker 1: Pedro was writing for the Republic back then. He treated

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Speaker 1: me with more respect than I had for myself at

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Speaker 1: that point in time, and for that, I'll always remember

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Speaker 1: Pedro that way, and what a pleasure was to know Pedro,

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Speaker 1: and all our condolences to his family. That'll do it

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Speaker 1: for this edition to the Big Read A special thanks

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Speaker 1: Jim Almnro, Cody Fincher, our special guest Rob Frederickson for

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Speaker 1: Ronmoltley on Paul CALVC. This has been Big Red Rage

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Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. Number one. You've been

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