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Speaker 1: Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am Ryan Warmley, joined today by Jake Seeley from The

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Speaker 1: Athletic and by Tom Stracking from across the Pond. Tom,

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Speaker 1: you know you said it's not that late where you

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Speaker 1: are right now, but it's a lot later than it

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Speaker 1: is for us, So thanks for making the time.

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Speaker 2: To be on the show today. Buddy.

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Speaker 3: Hey Mom, when it comes to football season, you just

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Speaker 3: got to get into it. About of all time of

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Speaker 3: the year it.

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Speaker 1: Is, and we're getting ever closer to football season here.

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Speaker 1: You know, past fourth of July is typically the kind

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Speaker 1: of milestone where we really dive in and start getting

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Speaker 1: We do stuff all off season, of course, but we

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Speaker 1: really start getting, you know, even more into the weeds

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Speaker 1: and having a little bit more fun. Jake at the Athletic,

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Speaker 1: you just released your tight end breakout switch. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how fun that was to come.

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Speaker 4: Up with for you. I think the best part about

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Speaker 4: it so far, at least on the feedback, was what

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Speaker 4: I called Kyle Pitts, and I said, going back to

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Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts is like trying to look at taco bell

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Speaker 4: at two am when you're thirty years old. To being like, man,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna be good, and then you immediately regret it

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Speaker 4: and you probably get diarrhea.

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Speaker 5: That's Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 1: I have never had Taco Bell in my life. I

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Speaker 1: have drafted Kyle Pitts though, so I can.

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Speaker 3: Like me you, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't even know if I've stepped inside a Taco Bell,

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Speaker 1: let alone eating food there.

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Speaker 5: Ever.

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Speaker 1: I just like, as a kid, I was really picky

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Speaker 1: and I didn't want to you know, like Mexican food

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Speaker 1: expanded my horizons, it just never came up.

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Speaker 2: I was never like, why would I go to Taco Bell.

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Speaker 1: I'll go to I don't know, like Chipotle or something

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Speaker 1: else if I want like a fast food Mexican.

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Speaker 4: So it's tom and I might as well just jump

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Speaker 4: if nobody's listening to this podcast anymore, Like I'm not

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Speaker 4: listening to a guy who's never been to Taco Bell.

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Speaker 4: You have to go before our next podcast.

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Speaker 1: It is like a pretty good fun fact for people

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Speaker 1: like you need one of those like two truths in

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Speaker 1: a lie or something of those icebreaker moments that and

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Speaker 1: not being able to smell or usually my too.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, like it is a. I just I just

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Speaker 2: have never come across. I'm not opposed to it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like actively, you know, digging my heels in.

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Speaker 5: I just yeah, you're less American than Tom.

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Speaker 2: What should I order if I go?

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Speaker 5: Oh, like crunch wrap?

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Speaker 2: For real? Like crunch rap? Okay, yeah all right?

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Speaker 1: Let us let us know in the comments to the

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Speaker 1: listeners who are still with us and powered through that,

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Speaker 1: let us know what item I short when I finally

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Speaker 1: make it to Taco Bell, maybe on a team trip

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Speaker 5: You missed your opportunity. Twenty years ago.

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Speaker 4: You could have ordered the entire menu to find out

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Speaker 4: what you wanted and still only spent ten dollars. Now

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Speaker 4: it's like two things and you spend ten dollars.

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Speaker 1: My dad used told me a story he used to

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Speaker 1: do that with my grandpa when when like my dad

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Speaker 1: Taco Bell. They would like see how much money they

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Speaker 1: my family to like Taco Bell. I've just maybe it's

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Speaker 5: Taco Bell will run in your family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good phrasing on that one. Let's dive into

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Speaker 1: our episode. Our tips today will not include going to

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Speaker 1: Taco Bell, but maybe that's that's my tip to dominate

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Speaker 1: my draft. We're gonna be giving you guys going from

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Speaker 1: six to one from each of the two of you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be giving the listeners our top twelve draft

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Speaker 1: tips to dominate your league this season. So this is

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Speaker 1: going to be, you know, less player driven. We can

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Speaker 1: more just hey, these are the tips that we try

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Speaker 1: to remember every year. This gonna be something that you're

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Speaker 1: applying specifically to twenty twenty five drafts, however you want

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Speaker 1: to approach it. Again, we're going six to one for

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Speaker 1: our top draft tips here for the next couple of

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Speaker 1: months in draft season. Quick reminder for everybody to all

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Speaker 1: of our twenty twenty five consensus rankings and tiers can

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Speaker 1: be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings.

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Speaker 2: Tom, Let's start with your number six tip.

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Speaker 3: So this one is probably going to seem a little

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Speaker 3: bit obvious, but I think it's always worth reinforcing some

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Speaker 3: of the simple stuff here, and that's remember that the draft,

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Speaker 3: it's not one. You know, you don't win your championship

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Speaker 3: based on your draft. Like you can go back to

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield had in ADP of around about one hundred

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Speaker 3: moment the draft is over, it's time to analyze the weaknesses,

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Speaker 3: work out what's still on the wave a while, look

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Speaker 3: at your opponents rosters, and just say, well, I like

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Speaker 3: to start making a trade, whether it's a two for

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Speaker 3: and it's like the draft has to go, and it's

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Speaker 3: look at it with fresh eyes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Almost like sunk cost fallacy type stuff. I've had this

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Speaker 1: I was trying to get sky Moore. This is early

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Speaker 1: I want you to give up sky Moore. The pick

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Speaker 1: you know, once the draft is done, it is done,

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Speaker 2: Jake, do you agree with this? And also on the

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Speaker 2: on the flip side of this.

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Speaker 1: You know, remember the draft isn't where championships are one.

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Speaker 1: Can it be where you lose your league?

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Speaker 5: Though, I'd say it could be.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but you'd have to really screw up your draft.

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Speaker 4: I go all the way back to the Justin for

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Speaker 5: Like, I think, it's hard to really lose your league.

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Speaker 4: But it's the same way what Tom's saying, it's hard

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Speaker 4: to say that you have definitively won your league on

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Speaker 4: third is the draft. There's still two thirds left two

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Speaker 4: only fifty to fifty in that aspect, like the trading,

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Speaker 1: And also, Tom, I know you kind of mentioned that

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Speaker 2: I think those are very important.

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Speaker 1: It's very easy to get so just dive so deep

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Speaker 2: So I think it's totally fine to include stuff like

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Speaker 2: this one. Jake, let's go to your number six.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad it ties into the draft here, honestly,

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Speaker 4: And I can just go back to last year and

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Speaker 4: pretty much ask anybody who dropped Bucky Irving after Week

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Speaker 5: You know, kath Walker is probably.

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Speaker 4: Gonna get hurt at some point, but if he doesn't, like,

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Speaker 4: You drafted him because the upside if said player in

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Speaker 5: Now I understand, we.

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Speaker 4: Get to buy mcged in and you just have nobody

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Speaker 4: not saying you can't. You have to hold onto these

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Speaker 1: How do you approach Jake those early season drops, because

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Speaker 1: I think it's really an important part of most leagues

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Speaker 1: are always league winners that pop up in weeks one

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Speaker 1: and two, and sometimes the really tricky part isn't identifying

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Speaker 1: those guys, it is identifying the right guy to drop.

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Speaker 1: So when there is somebody that becomes available that you

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Speaker 4: So the first one gone is a tight end. Like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Jake summed it up so well, and

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Speaker 1: Obviously, I enjoy football and I'm always hoping for it

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for the season. Tom. Let's go to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, for me, this could be if I

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Speaker 3: This year I'm at like two hundred already. And moving

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Speaker 3: But in home leagues, if you're in one like me,

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Speaker 1: Jake, I don't know if I've ever talked to you

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Speaker 1: And for me, it's the same thing, not for best Ball,

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Speaker 1: slash kit. All right, Jake your number five tip?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my number five. It kind of goes back to

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Speaker 4: And now obviously this is gonna be relative and people

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Speaker 1: Jake, are you willing to take a top tier quarterback

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Speaker 4: better way I should put it is that if I

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Speaker 4: were to take a tight end the end it like

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Speaker 4: Bowers is there at the end of round two, I

439
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Speaker 4: would consider it. I want them in a round three,

440
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Speaker 4: but I would consider them at the end of round two.

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Speaker 4: If I did that, I wouldn't turn around around three

442
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Speaker 4: and take Lamar Jackson. You know, if Bowers or you

443
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Speaker 4: know McBride is there in round three and then in

444
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Speaker 4: a round five that can take Hurts. That's still taking

445
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Speaker 4: two top tier players at those positions, but there is

446
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Speaker 4: more balance and the value for the rest of my team.

447
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Speaker 4: So that's where I say, like it could happen, but

448
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Speaker 4: probably not because the majority of draft that that's not

449
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Speaker 4: usually how those guys fallow out.

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Speaker 1: Tom, how do you approach these two positions? If that's

451
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Speaker 1: a good enough question for you.

452
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Speaker 3: I won't push back. No, I love that. I think

453
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Speaker 3: that what Jake's saying, like, I'll just expand a little

454
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Speaker 3: more on that. Like when it comes to the titan

455
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Speaker 3: position versus so few guys who command serious volume. Ver

456
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,680
Speaker 3: are so few guys who can hit one hundred yards

457
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Speaker 3: in a game, and it's those guys at the top

458
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Speaker 3: who really are able to do that for three maybe

459
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Speaker 3: four games a year, which doesn't sound that much, but

460
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Speaker 3: really that's all it takes at tight end to be

461
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Speaker 3: a dominant force. Like you go back to the year

462
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Speaker 3: where Sam Laporta was tight ended one as a rookie,

463
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Speaker 3: He's scored nine touchdowns. Nobody else scored more than six.

464
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Speaker 3: So it's really easy to separate at titan position if

465
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Speaker 3: you're able to do that. And I do want the

466
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Speaker 3: guys who are able to do it or who have

467
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Speaker 3: shown us that they can do it in the past.

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Speaker 3: But perhaps the situation is a little different, and you know,

469
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Speaker 3: I'm not prioritizing guys like Mark Andrews or Travis Kelcey

470
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Speaker 3: this year because of wider concerns, but it's looking at

471
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Speaker 3: Brock Bauers, Trey McBride, George Kill and then Sam Laporter

472
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Speaker 3: as well. I think is definitely some either I want

473
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Speaker 3: a lot of exposure to this year, and then if

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Speaker 3: a quarterback position for me, it's duel frets or putting

475
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Speaker 3: it later, because if you don't, you know, I'm willing

476
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Speaker 3: to take Drake May where every lands in kind of

477
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Speaker 3: like round nine to ten range and just in field

478
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Speaker 3: similar But otherwise, if I'm just getting a pocket passer,

479
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Speaker 3: then yeah, I'll just say, Okay, I'm going to get

480
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Speaker 3: fifteen to eighteen points most weeks from this quarterback and

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Speaker 3: I'll play the waive a whire.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a preference Tom, Like, if you could

483
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Speaker 1: only go top tier on one of these two, is

484
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Speaker 1: it tight end just because quarterback is deeper? Or would

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Speaker 1: if you could only pick one, would you rather go

486
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Speaker 1: tap to your a quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, come on, where you know I'm a

488
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Speaker 3: Ravens fan like you, so it's quite hard for me here.

489
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, when you have Lamar Jackson on your team,

490
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Speaker 3: it's just you know that every week it's going to

491
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Speaker 3: be fun.

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Speaker 2: Jake, what about you?

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Speaker 1: If you had to pick one or the other to

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Speaker 1: go top tier on what to be quarterback or tight end, it'll.

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Speaker 4: Probably be a quarterback, mostly because Dad Bowers and McBride

496
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Speaker 4: cost a quarterback is usually around like to start, and

497
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Speaker 4: then on top of it, you know, I feel like

498
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 4: that advantage is just stronger because you go back to

499
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Speaker 4: even the best Kelsey seasons, like you have to be

500
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Speaker 4: those three really good seasons, which were seasons that he

501
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Speaker 4: finished as a top ten wide receiver at the tight

502
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Speaker 4: end position. Those are the kind of seasons you need

503
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Speaker 4: from Bowers and McBride to really give you that second

504
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Speaker 4: round value because of what you have to give up.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's.

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Speaker 4: Hard for those tight ends even when you take them

507
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Speaker 4: that early. Even with the position of Vanas, you get

508
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Speaker 4: to actually still return costs on their value.

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Speaker 1: And also like it is really fun to have a

510
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Speaker 1: Tremickbrider or Black Bauers on your team, but it doesn't

511
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Speaker 1: compare it to the just the pure fun as a

512
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Speaker 1: fantasy manager of every week watching Lamar Jackson or Josh

513
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Speaker 1: Allen or you know, Jade Daniels last year, Like it

514
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Speaker 1: just is so fun. So all right, Tom Lea's go

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Speaker 1: to your number four draft tip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this one is don't just draft with last

517
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Speaker 3: year's results in mind, because it can be very easy

518
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Speaker 3: at full and invotropical. Okay, they wide receiver one last year,

519
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Speaker 3: so we should be the wide receiver one vis year.

520
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Speaker 3: And obviously at the top there's probably less of a

521
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Speaker 3: difference between the talent. Like this year's first round in

522
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 3: draft feels really fun across the board anyway, But as

523
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Speaker 3: you get further down and there's guys like Lad McConkey,

524
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Speaker 3: who now goes ahead of aj Brown in current best

525
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Speaker 3: ball ADP, and you know, we're not quite at the

526
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Speaker 3: point where we've got enough redraft ADP to see if

527
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Speaker 3: that's going to be the case. But Lad mconky, Like,

528
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Speaker 3: did he sorry, did the Chargers pass more because mconkie

529
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: got healthier as the season went on? Or was it

530
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Speaker 3: because JK. Dobbins slowed down and wasn't finding those explosive

531
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Speaker 3: run plays, Like, we don't really know exactly how the

532
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: Chargers truly want to play things this year. So for me,

533
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Speaker 3: it's taking that kind of approach of going, yes, Ladd

534
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Speaker 3: McConkie finished for year with that unbelievable performance against the

535
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Speaker 3: Texans in the playoffs, but what is it that I'm

536
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Speaker 3: getting when I draft him in the middle of round two?

537
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Speaker 3: The same for Jonathan Taylor, a guy who won people championships.

538
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Speaker 3: If you had Jonathan Taylor in the championship rounds, but

539
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Speaker 3: he also got forty two percent of his total points

540
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Speaker 3: for the season across week sixteen seventeen, And you know,

541
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Speaker 3: one over a week, I think it was around week

542
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Speaker 3: thirteen he was aid be fourteen or worse than seven

543
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Speaker 3: of thirteen games that he played last year. So just

544
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Speaker 3: try to take a slightly zoomed out view and not

545
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Speaker 3: just remembering the positional finishes and how things ended over

546
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Speaker 3: those last few weeks.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about this one?

548
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Speaker 1: Jacin In a pie chart of what you care about

549
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Speaker 1: and what you're thinking about making your draft picks.

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Speaker 2: What percentage is last year's.

551
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Speaker 4: Results sixteen point eight three something like, it's definitely a factor.

552
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Speaker 5: And to kind of met Tom do with my last one.

553
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Speaker 4: I'll even take it a step further here with this

554
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 4: is that I often find some of the best value's

555
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Speaker 4: article are right is last year's players that burned people

556
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: because all they remember is last year and like, oh,

557
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 4: not taking him again. You know what he did to

558
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 4: me last year. You know how much that wasted my

559
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 4: seventh round pick on that guy. And they don't go

560
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 4: back because they're just bitter and angry and the like

561
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Speaker 4: I get it, Like nobody wants to go back to

562
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: the players that burned you, especially those two or three

563
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 4: times Kyle Pitts. But like, if you go in with

564
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 4: that mindset and like automatically write these players off, you're

565
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: just gonna miss on the value because the biggest thing,

566
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: like out I threw a Trey Benson earlier, Like Trey Benson,

567
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 4: like you could be frustrated he didn't do much and

568
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Speaker 4: then got hurt on top of it last year. But

569
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Speaker 4: if you go into this year and like just ignore

570
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Speaker 4: the fact that he's still the clear number two behind

571
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Speaker 4: James Connor, who has an injury history, and you're just like, well,

572
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Speaker 4: I'm not taking him, And now he's coming at a

573
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Speaker 4: discount on top of it, Like, why were you in

574
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: on him last year for a very good reason. You

575
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 4: should be in on him this year and you shouldn't

576
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Speaker 4: just be because oh I never got to use him

577
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Speaker 4: last year.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, I was thinking of a different cardinal. I

579
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Speaker 1: was thinking of Marvin Harrison Junior and.

580
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Speaker 2: His latest Trey Benson.

581
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Speaker 1: But like where you took him last year, he definitely

582
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: burns you, but in a vacuum, it was still a

583
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Speaker 1: pretty good rookie season. If he comes back, you know,

584
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: it takes a step forward in a year or two.

585
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Speaker 1: That's somebody that I could see managers say, well, why

586
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Speaker 1: would I trust him?

587
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Speaker 2: He didn't do anything.

588
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Speaker 1: You're supposed to be the greatest things to slice bread,

589
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: and now at a discount actually.

590
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: Could be a value.

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Speaker 1: And I would love to meet the person who hasn't

592
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Speaker 1: been burned by Kyle Pitts at least once across their

593
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Speaker 1: fantasy leagues. That guy should win a trophy or something. Jake,

594
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Speaker 1: let's go to your number four.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna near and dear to our good friend

596
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Speaker 4: Joe ps and p as Hart. Remember positional if I

597
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: could say it, positional value and what this means, and

598
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 4: he talks about it every single year in his Black Book.

599
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Speaker 4: It comes down to the fact that as the draft

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Speaker 4: is going, understand your roster construction, you're not going to

601
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Speaker 4: come out of the draft being dominant at quarterback, running back,

602
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Speaker 4: wi receiver, in tight end. It's just not feasible. Maybe

603
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: in an auction, maybe your auction with some really dumb people,

604
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 4: then maybe that's the only world you can do it in.

605
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: But inherently, especially in snake drafts.

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Speaker 5: It's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: So too often you bring up taking a quarterback early,

608
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Speaker 4: and I'll go even to super flex on this one.

609
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 4: You know, you take a quarterback early, take a quarterback

610
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 4: in the first round, worm, and then I'll see people

611
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Speaker 4: not draft their second quarterback until it's like QB twenty five.

612
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Speaker 4: You threw all that value out because you started with

613
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Speaker 4: a quarterback that's better than at least ten teams, possibly

614
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 4: the entire league. And now you've brought your quarterback position

615
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Speaker 4: to level with the league because you waited so long

616
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: on the second one. You went wide receiver, wide receiver

617
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Speaker 4: to start, and then you start going running back, running back,

618
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Speaker 4: running back, and you don't take your third wide receiver

619
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Speaker 4: until the sixth seventh round. And now you had an

620
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Speaker 4: advantage as the number one, possibly the best number two

621
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Speaker 4: wide receiver in your league. But now again your position

622
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Speaker 4: is brought back to league average because you waited so

623
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Speaker 4: long on the third option. And I think too many

624
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 4: people just kind of look for like, oh, I need

625
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 4: a running back. I can't keep waiting, and sometimes it

626
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Speaker 4: doesn't feel good to only have like three good or

627
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: two good running backs out of your draft, But you're

628
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 4: going to be so well positioned at the other opportunities

629
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: that like that makes up for it. So like, just

630
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 4: remember the value that you drafted and how you're building

631
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Speaker 4: your team and pay attention to that as the draft

632
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Speaker 4: goes on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a really interesting insight. It's

634
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: also really helpful. Like let's say you really into the

635
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: receivers even though you went them early, and so now

636
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: you're stacked there and you got a luxury tight end

637
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: a quarterback, so it's just running back that you're weak

638
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: at rather than trying to be just okay everywhere. Now,

639
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: you know, on the waiver wire, I don't need to

640
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: waste my time thinking about all these other positions because

641
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 1: I am already like the others.

642
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: You can narrow your focus, I guess is what I'm

643
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: trying to get to.

644
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: You can really dilate and say with my late round flyers,

645
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: with my you know, early waiver wire priority and fab

646
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: I can really focus in on the one area that

647
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna need help in. I think that

648
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: that simplifies it and streamlines it, which I always like

649
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: with my rosters.

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Speaker 2: Tom, what do you think about this one?

651
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes you see people in single quarterbacks will pay up

652
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: for the elite quarterback, but then later on they can't

653
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: help themselves. They take the breakout guy, the rookie guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, Tom, you're number three.

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Speaker 3: Tip Now, this one is quite a fun one, I think,

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Speaker 3: because you can take this as deep as you want

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Speaker 3: to go, but be mindful of your opponents. And that

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Speaker 3: can be whether you're on draft day, whether it's through

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Speaker 3: the league season. Knowing like I have a guy who

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Speaker 3: is one of my very best friends, but I know

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Speaker 3: he will not trade unless the trade off it is

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Speaker 3: heavily weighted to him because he's so attached to his players.

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Speaker 3: And then there are other guys who will make trades

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Speaker 3: for the sake of trades. And there's people within your

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Speaker 3: league you know, who are going to be incredibly on

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Speaker 3: it when it comes to waivers, So there's all those

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Speaker 3: little bits, but then draft like which content like provider

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Speaker 3: do they lean on. And obviously this is easier in

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Speaker 3: home leagues, but even if you're drafting in a dynasty

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Speaker 3: league and it's a lot of people who you don't know,

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Speaker 3: it can be quite easy to go with their Twitter

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Speaker 3: account and see what they're interacting with, who they're following.

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Speaker 3: I my co host over at Fantasy Sanctuary, Rich Rich,

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Speaker 3: goes as far with this as anyone I've ever met,

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Speaker 3: and he keeps spreadsheets on his dynasty opponents. He keeps

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Speaker 3: lists of like how much people will be paid, attention

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Speaker 3: on waivers, what team this book, because that's a big one,

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Speaker 3: Like knowing that somebody supports, say the Ravens for us

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Speaker 3: were if there's somebody who likes to make sure they've

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Speaker 3: got players from their team on their roster, you know

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Speaker 3: they're probably going to reach at a certain point and

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Speaker 3: be able to leverage this. Or somebody who's massively rookie heavy.

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Speaker 3: Are they somebody who's obsessed with the draft. Are they

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Speaker 3: going to be trying to grab those rookies? And does

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Speaker 3: that mean that you can then push veterans in the

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Speaker 3: draft because they should slip to you, or does it

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Speaker 3: mean that you can try and acquiere veterans off their

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Speaker 3: roster in exchange for rookies.

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Speaker 1: So I'm in a salary cap format league that I've

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Speaker 1: been in for many many years and there's like seven

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Speaker 1: Ravens fans in there, and I don't participate in this,

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Speaker 1: but literally every year in the first round, somebody nominates

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker. Obviously not anymore, but somebody would nominate Justin

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Speaker 1: Tucker and he would go for like nine dollars, and

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Speaker 1: it just waste your money on this kicker, even though

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Speaker 1: he's a great kicker or was and was a Raven

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Speaker 1: and some of the people wanted on their team.

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Speaker 2: You could take advantage of stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't pick this, Tom, so I could

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Speaker 1: seamlessly bring up this tool, but I have.

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Speaker 2: To mention you tell I'm too perfect. It's too perfect

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Speaker 2: of an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: This isn't even one of my batterid's on the show,

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Speaker 1: But like draft Intail, and I say this all the time,

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Speaker 1: it genuinely is my favorite tool of fantasy pros.

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Speaker 2: I think it's so cool that they do that.

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Speaker 1: If you're in any kind of long running league that

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Speaker 1: you are saying with Fantasy Pros. In my playbook and

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Speaker 1: Draft Wizard, we can look at the history of all

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Speaker 1: the guys in your league and say when you were

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Speaker 1: on the clock. You can have this in your actual

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Speaker 1: draft during draft Assistant, it will say, Hey, the person

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Speaker 1: picking after you never has taken a quarterback before round ten.

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Speaker 1: He's always a late round QB guy, so you can

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Speaker 1: probably wait till your next pick to take it.

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Speaker 2: It will actually analyze to that level.

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Speaker 1: If you're in any kind of long running league that

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Speaker 1: has a couple of years of data, we can look

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Speaker 1: at that and let you know, like, oh, this guy,

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Speaker 1: he always takes a tight end early, so if I

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Speaker 1: want one, I have to take one there. It's super

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Speaker 1: super helpful. I use it in all my drafts. I

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Speaker 1: think it's the best tool we have. So draft Intel

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Speaker 1: I would strongly recommend. If you guys agree with what

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Speaker 1: Tom is saying and being mindful of your opponents, there's

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Speaker 1: no better way than draft Intel.

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Speaker 2: Jake, what do you think about this one?

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Speaker 4: I love it too, and I even think about it,

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Speaker 4: and I should have said this. I did a show

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Speaker 4: with ELFREDA. Brown the other day and he was like,

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Speaker 4: what's something that you would try to think that you're

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Speaker 4: really good at that you hope other people can learn.

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Speaker 4: And I think what I said on that show and

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Speaker 4: what I think ties into the trading. It's like also

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Speaker 4: knowing what the other opponents in your league like do

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Speaker 4: they like Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: Do they like Ravens? Do they like young players?

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Speaker 4: And I'm just thinking to my home league, I like

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Speaker 4: have a Cowboys fan, I have two good brothers that

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Speaker 4: are Vikings fans. I have a guy that always has

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Speaker 4: like five rookies on his bench out of the draft.

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Speaker 4: Like knowing these things, but it's not just a draft

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Speaker 4: because then, like I said, it carries into the season

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Speaker 4: and is like, hey, I know if I come to

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Speaker 4: this person with like equitable two wide receivers are basically

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Speaker 4: the same exact thing, but one is the player from

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Speaker 4: his team, like he's going to pay up more in

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Speaker 4: the trade. One of them's the young player, He's going

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Speaker 4: to pay up more in the trade. And it's just

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Speaker 4: knowing that stuff about your opponents that just so it's

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Speaker 4: a great point by Tom.

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Speaker 1: I also like when I could take advantage of it

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Speaker 1: the other way, Like I'm pretty down on Zay Flowers,

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Speaker 1: this year. But because I'm a Ravens fan, anybody that

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Speaker 1: he's talking to me about the Ravens or is in

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Speaker 1: a league drafting with me, is like, oh, I gotta

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Speaker 1: get Zay before word does.

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Speaker 2: Because he loves the Ravens, please go go right ahead.

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Speaker 2: I happily pass on him this year.

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Speaker 1: So I once gave some last year somebody like dms

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Speaker 1: me and asked, you know what I thought about Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry and I think it was in a trade or something,

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Speaker 1: and I gave my opinion that I was really high,

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Speaker 1: and I said, very tongue in cheek, but I am

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Speaker 1: a Ravens fan. And then the guy literally followed up

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Speaker 1: with would you mind asking your other coworkers so I

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Speaker 1: can get an unbuiased opinion?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, well, no, I'm giving you my

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Speaker 2: real opinion.

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Speaker 1: I just also I was I was being joking, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you could take advantage of it the other way too, Jake.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to your number three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this comes back to something. It kind of ties

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Speaker 4: into some of the things we've said already. But don't

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Speaker 4: buy all the risk. And when I say buy all

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Speaker 4: the risk is buying players. And of course first two

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Speaker 4: three rounds is tough not to do it because there's

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Speaker 4: not much room to improve from there. But we're doing

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Speaker 4: this show and we're not talking about a lot of players,

817
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Speaker 4: but all on the shows leading up to this and

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Speaker 4: for the rest of the preseason from July and through August,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna be talking about players. Then I'll probably get

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Speaker 4: echoed on these shows by people with Fantasy pros it,

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Speaker 4: I'll get echoed on other podcasts or other sites that

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Speaker 4: you might visit and listen to. And the problem is is,

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Speaker 4: because there's so much content out there, you kind of

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Speaker 4: get like industry, and I mean industry is like us

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Speaker 4: the people or whatever, like kind of a group think.

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Speaker 4: Like you'll see some and I don't know any names

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Speaker 4: off the top of my head, so I'm not coming

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Speaker 4: for anybody, but you'll see some people that will start

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Speaker 4: to move their players based on things they've heard from

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Speaker 4: other intelligent people that they respect. So you kind of

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Speaker 4: get like a group think in the industry, which leads

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Speaker 4: to group think in your leagues. It's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: I got it. You know, Tom brought up Caleb Williams before,

834
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Speaker 4: Like Caleb Williams comes out hot and then you know,

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Speaker 4: they start getting to the preseason and everything looks great

836
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Speaker 4: with Ben Johnson and the reports are glowing and everything,

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Speaker 4: and then it's like, oh my god, gotta get Kleb Williams.

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Speaker 4: Gotta get Kia Williams. Got and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: kayle Williams is going off the board as the sixth

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Speaker 4: quarterback in the draft, and like, where is the upside

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Speaker 4: return on Caleb Williams Because you bought he now has

842
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Speaker 4: to be the breakout that anybody thought he could be

843
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Speaker 4: just to return the value of the cost you placed,

844
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Speaker 4: let alone positive return value. So that's why I say

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Speaker 4: don't buy all the risks, because there will be players,

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Speaker 4: probably ten to twenty of them every single year where

847
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Speaker 4: they get so hyped that their cost ends up being

848
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Speaker 4: prohibitive on trying to get any return on value.

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Speaker 1: Tom, what do you think about these guys who you know,

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Speaker 1: helium kind of makes it the risk?

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Speaker 3: I love that, yeah, And it is yeah, because we

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Speaker 3: just we see even fly up and like how many

853
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Speaker 3: years in a row have we seen Chiefs running back?

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Speaker 3: Two is getting all the touches in camp, and like

855
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Speaker 3: and then it turns into nothing. I mean, like generic

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Speaker 3: Prince was such a hot name to talk about last summer,

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Speaker 3: and I haven't heard his name whatsoever this year, Like

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Speaker 3: he's completely gone. So like learning to take shots at

859
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: risk where you feel like it warrants it and where

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Speaker 3: the profile fits is massive and not taking too much

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Speaker 3: of it is a great point because redraft is so

862
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Speaker 3: much about finding a high floor as much as anything,

863
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Speaker 3: Like how many weeks do you go through the season

864
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Speaker 3: and it's like I just needed ten more points there,

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Speaker 3: I just need five more points there, rather than saying, well,

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Speaker 3: if all this had worked out, then I would have

867
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Speaker 3: scored like two hundred points and been fifty points clear

868
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Speaker 3: of anyone. Like it doesn't do you that many favors.

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Speaker 2: Tom, Let's stick with you for your number two tip.

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Speaker 3: So this one is usually last pick to get ahead

871
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: of the waivers. And this is particularly useful if you're

872
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: drafting a few weeks before the season starts, like I've

873
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: had my home league is drafted in July previously, just

874
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: because we can get together any weekends through August and

875
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 3: then other weeks where it's like, you know you're drafting

876
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: middle of August, ready to start when the league starts.

877
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: So if you have kickers or defense, then I'm absolutely

878
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: not drafting them unless I have to. I'm not drafting

879
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: a second tight end. I'm not drafting a second quarterback

880
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: in single QB. What I want to do at that

881
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: point is start taking some shots at some of the

882
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: guys who could rise in ADP, who are starting to

883
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: get a steady drum beat, who look to be getting

884
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: playing time with first in preseason, or in the case

885
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 3: of a team like the Rams, aren't playing whatsoever. Those

886
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: are the guys. But I want to be trying to

887
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: pick up at the back end of my draft rather

888
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: than having to battle it out on waivers, because we know,

889
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: come week one, if those guys go out there and

890
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: have like Puku Nakua Kaien Williams type week one, or

891
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: go back to like James Robinson, then somebody in your

892
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: league might be willing to drop sixty seventy percent of

893
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: the fab on it. And I don't want to be

894
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: battling like that. I would much rather try and take

895
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: a few shots in the draft, and then if I

896
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: end up having to drop a bunch of people, I'm

897
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: sure that I can get replacement level production for those

898
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: last few spots.

899
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: I think what Tom is saying is to draft and

900
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: Eric Prince with your final pick.

901
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was absolutely it.

902
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: Jake, how do you approach these final picks? Do you

903
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: do the same thing.

904
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: I think that's a really smart thing to do. Also,

905
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: it kind of leeds into the regular season. David Ganos,

906
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: who's in the Fantasy Sports Hall of Fame, used to

907
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: do an article for us over at the Athletic and

908
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: it was the for next week, and it's like kind

909
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: of like it's the same thought process as those last

910
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: few draft picks. It's like, Okay, do I have something

911
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 4: and it's gonna tie into my very last one, So

912
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 4: I'm trying not to spoil too much of my last

913
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: piece of advice, but like, what does this person do

914
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: on my bench for me potentially next week? Is there

915
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 4: a path where next week, like, okay, you bring up

916
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: funny enough, Like let's just say we'll use then airprist.

917
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 4: Let's say he was clearly the number two running back

918
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: sitting on waivers behind Asaea Pacheco, and he's still out

919
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: there even in week two. It's like think of it

920
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 4: that way as like, Okay, if Pa Checko gets hurt

921
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 4: on Sunday, everybody's gonna go nuts.

922
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 5: For this guy.

923
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 4: And I think that's actually on Sunday mornings is really

924
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: important too. Like, maybe you have somebody on your bench

925
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: as your fifth wide receiver because there's an injury risk

926
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 4: and you don't know if the guy is going to

927
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: be playing, and then he actually does, get rid of

928
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: that fifth wide receiver. Go pick up Marshaw Lloyd for

929
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: the Packers just in case Josh Jacobs gets hurt, and

930
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: it like, so it's not just the draft, it's like,

931
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: use that final bench spot or two, which again is

932
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: going to lead into my main point that it's say

933
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Speaker 4: for last, but use that spot to get ahead of

934
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: the waivers and beat everybody to the punch. So instead

935
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 4: of spending ninety in FAB, maybe you're spending one dollar

936
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 4: in FAB.

937
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Speaker 3: You know, I really should have full of that point

938
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Speaker 3: considered an I've right look ahead waivers post for each Sunday.

939
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I should have been in front of mine

940
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Speaker 1: for you. I know I already talked about a draft intel,

941
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945
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946
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947
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Speaker 1: or on the Fantasy Football Draft Wizard app. All right, Jake,

951
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: you've got two left here? What's your number two tip?

952
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one probably gonna feel obvious these days at

953
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 4: this point for everybody watching this show, but it's still

954
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: it's important enough to worth mentioned for everybody is to

955
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: use tiers. And the reason why we talk about them

956
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: and the reason we put players in tiers is not

957
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 4: giving like, oh, these guys are all the same, Like, yeah,

958
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: that's part of the point. But part of the point

959
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: is because they're the same, it helps you make these

960
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: tougher decisions in your draft because you can sit there

961
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: and say, oh, RB fifteen versus Wide Receiver eighteen, like,

962
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 4: who's really better for my team? Well, if Wide Receiver

963
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: eighteen is the last wide receiver in the tier, but

964
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 4: RB fifteen, there's still six other guys in the tier

965
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: with him, and you're up again in five picks, Well,

966
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 4: then you should take the wide receiver because you're gonna

967
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 4: have to jump into that next tier when it comes

968
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 4: back around if you want the wide receiver, whereas you're

969
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: probably still in the same rage as running backs. And

970
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: that's really what it comes down to is trying to

971
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: get it kind of ties into the tiers. What I

972
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: talk about with the quarterbacks and the tight ends. It's

973
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 4: trying to get similar value at the least cost possible

974
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: and build your team the proper way.

975
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: This is also a great opportunity to mention the cheat

976
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: Sheet Creator, where you can make your own tiers on

977
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Pro site so you don't have to follow.

978
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: The tiers of whatever site you're using.

979
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 4: Man, those are just a podcast advertisement basically.

980
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.

981
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: It's hard not to mention them when you guys are

982
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: given these tips because our tools can do this. So yeah,

983
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: check check out the Chee Cheek Creator everybody too. And

984
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: sorry for.

985
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: Those who hate the uh the promos, but it's just

986
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: too such a low hanging fruit.

987
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean using tears is like uh not,

988
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like frame it as a no brainer because

989
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it seem like, oh, it's

990
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: too obvious, but like it definitely is like the smartest

991
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: way to approach your draft. I think, like for sure,

992
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: if you're if you are not. And again it doesn't

993
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: have to be I said it jokingly, but you should

994
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: have your kind of own tiers of comfort and what

995
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: you're looking for. It doesn't have to be just oh,

996
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm drafting on Yahoo, so where do they have kind

997
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: of the breakdowns or or ESPN or whatever it is

998
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: that you're doing it. You should come up with your

999
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: own tiers and the guys that if they're the last

1000
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: ones in the tier on the clock, you want to

1001
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: make sure you get. You should know that ahead of

1002
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: time rather than trying to determine it during the draft.

1003
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 5: Before you toss it to Tom.

1004
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 4: I just thought of something too, is especially like this

1005
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: comes into value and I think might get overlooked because

1006
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 4: not enough people play this way. But in auctions too,

1007
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 4: because a lot of times you'll see and everybody's who's

1008
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: been in an auction has probably experienced it is like, oh,

1009
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 4: you know, I get Derreck Henry He went for thirty.

1010
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor went for twenty eight. Christian McCaffrey. He went

1011
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: for thirty two, and all of a sudden, you know,

1012
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: Bucky Irving's the last running back in that tier, and

1013
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Bucky Irving goes for thirty seven

1014
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: because everybody wants to make sure they got the running

1015
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: back inside the top twelve, and everybody else is like

1016
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 4: James Connor level, and then you end up spending money

1017
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 4: way worse than you possibly ever could have been in

1018
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: a draft, in an auction draft, because you weren't paying

1019
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: attention to all of a sudden, oh my god, it's

1020
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 4: the last good running back that I wanted to get.

1021
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: It's a great point.

1022
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: It's important in both formats, but in that format especially,

1023
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: it comes into play even more. And you're right, everybody

1024
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: who has played in that kind of format has been

1025
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: burned at some point in like, oh, I should have

1026
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: gotten a guy earlier. I shouldn't have saved the money

1027
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: because now he's the last one. Everybody knows it and

1028
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: they're going for way more. How do you use tiers

1029
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: in your draft?

1030
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm a big believer obviously, Like it's

1031
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: easy for us to say that we rely on rankings

1032
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: and tiers and stuff. But I think that tiers, even

1033
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: if you aren't putting together your own rankings, it's easy

1034
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: to take something like the expert consensus rankings and just

1035
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: go through and just underline where you feel that you've

1036
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: got tiers, unless you want to use for tier cheat sheet,

1037
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: but it's very easy to print them off and then

1038
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: just go That is the point where I do not

1039
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: want any of the next four or five guys beneath

1040
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: that player, and it can make life a lot easier

1041
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: when you are on the clock. It's such a no

1042
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: brainer for me that I can't imagine drafting, particularly a

1043
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: live draft, without it.

1044
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent and like and to the point

1045
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: about making your own you know, if you look at

1046
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: the tiers, I'm just telling you right now.

1047
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: Let's say I'm really down on Amara Saint Brown this year.

1048
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: When I'm looking at Tier two of the overall players,

1049
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: it's Pooka, Malik Amorat Nico and Nasha Genty. I want

1050
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: to know going in that, Okay, there are five guys

1051
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: in this tier, but I actually don't even really like

1052
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: one of them. So now it's I do like Saint Brown.

1053
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: But I'm just using an example where you want to

1054
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: know your own like who am I actually comfortable taking

1055
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: in this range of the draft, and who are the

1056
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: guys that I would prefer not to take here. So

1057
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: all right, we have one final tip from each of you.

1058
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: Tom, what do you got?

1059
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1060
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: So this again, I mean, I hate to set you

1061
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 3: up for another plug worm, but leverage ADP wherever that's

1062
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: through the expert consensus rankings. Consensus ADP just being able

1063
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: to take a look at the inefficiencies of platforms. Like

1064
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: last year, I did a video series which was just

1065
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: looking at the worst and best picks for each individual platforms,

1066
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: and the differences between platforms are so incredibly wild, even

1067
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: if they've got similar scoring. Like NFL's Fantacy platform last

1068
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: year had the San Francisco forty nine is defense going

1069
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 3: in round six as an ADP, and I have no

1070
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: idea how they ended up there, but they were there

1071
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: for a good month of drafts being open. So looking

1072
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: across where the value use on you, you know, you

1073
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: compare that against VCR and see where your favorite analysts

1074
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: rankings bring up those players and look and then comparing

1075
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: it to ADP and saying, okay, well, that seems like

1076
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: a complete bargain. Maybe I don't need to reach thirty

1077
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 3: picks ahead of ADP, but maybe if I'm reaching around

1078
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: ahead of it, then that's still a great pick.

1079
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ADP in whatever platform you're on is going

1080
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: to look very similar to the rankings in the draft

1081
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: room or whatever platform you're on. People are just naturally

1082
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: anchored to the numbers they see besides those names, and

1083
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, a lot of casual users, but

1084
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: also even I'm not going to say like industry experts

1085
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: or anything, but like it is just natural for your

1086
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: brain to want to kind of match the ranking that

1087
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: the platform is telling you these guys should be going in.

1088
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: So it's one of the best things you can do

1089
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: every single year is familiarize yourself with with the ADP

1090
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: and rankings in the system you're on and what the

1091
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: key difference is the player, Because you're right, you'll see

1092
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: these sometimes, like between ESPN and I Who, there will

1093
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: be like a thirty or forty spot gap between certain

1094
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: players that you really like, and it's just because on

1095
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: that platform, for whatever reason, the rankings haven't moved and

1096
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: the ADP doesn't change, and then it just kind of

1097
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: gets stuck there. By the time you get to mid August. So, uh,

1098
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: this is extremely smart. Yeah, like fantasypros dot com slash rankings,

1099
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: if you want to see the expert consensus rankings, you

1100
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: know consensus ADP data on there. But yes, just whatever

1101
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: platform you're on, find those differences before draft day and

1102
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: you will be the guy who takes somebody and then

1103
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: everybody goes, oh, they didn't even appear in my window

1104
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: on my scroll down. They're like, oh, I forgot I

1105
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: was going to take this person, but I forgot about it.

1106
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: Yes, scrolling down going to page two.

1107
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: If that's the way the draft room is set up

1108
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: is very very smart.

1109
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: Jake, how do you use ADP?

1110
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, and like it even ties to

1111
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: like if you don't want to use consensus in your

1112
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: or you do, but you want to use it on

1113
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 4: a specific three analyst or you know, like to teut

1114
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: myself for a second, like maybe like I just want

1115
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: Jake's ranks. I'm not saying I'm just presenting it to

1116
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: make my argument here is that like just because I

1117
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 4: have somebody or another expert on the ADP, you or

1118
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: the ECR consensus has somebody thirty spots over doesn't mean

1119
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 4: you have to take them there like that's why that's

1120
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: the other piece of the ADP that comes into play.

1121
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, all right, clearly they see something here

1122
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 4: and are saying, like, you know, this player is where

1123
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 4: he would be at the end of the season, where

1124
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: his rankings or whatever it might be. But I know

1125
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 4: I can still wait a full round and a half

1126
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: and still getting before anybody else is taking them, and

1127
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: not buying all the risk, but still getting the player

1128
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: you want to get over the consensus. So I'm glad

1129
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: you brought that up because also I'm going to bring

1130
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: it up with my final pick, as I actually just

1131
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: did a CBS mock with Jamie Eisenberg and I took

1132
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: Justin Fields referenced him earlier in the show.

1133
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 5: I took him in the ninth round.

1134
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 4: I had to scroll down the quarterbacks to get him

1135
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: because CBS did not have them as one of the

1136
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 4: eight best quarterbacks still on the board, even the fact

1137
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: that four quarterbacks had already gone, so he's outside the

1138
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 4: top twelve and I'm like, no, this is dumb. I

1139
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 4: need to scroll down to find them. So this exact

1140
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 4: point of like it just came into play for me

1141
00:48:59,239 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: earlier today.

1142
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And before we get to your final point, Jake,

1143
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: I want to make another point on the ADP, which

1144
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: is like, obviously within reason, you don't want to be crazy.

1145
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: You don't want to take a guy like sixty spots earlier,

1146
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, around eight value in round two just because

1147
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: he's your guy and you really want him. That would

1148
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: be an insane waste of resources. But in general, the

1149
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: idea that ADP is a myth and you can just

1150
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: get the guys you want on your team. If we're

1151
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: talking around maybe two, depending on the player and where

1152
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: in the draft, you are just get the guys that

1153
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: you like. You're gonna be kicking yourself if you really,

1154
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: let's say you do really like Zay Flowers and you're like, listen,

1155
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: I like him so much. He's going in the sixth round.

1156
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: I think he should be a fifth rounder. But I

1157
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: just can't go against ADP and go against his value.

1158
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be smart drafting to take him. Then he

1159
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: goes somewhere else and he has his breakout season, You're

1160
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: gonna be.

1161
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: So upset because you knew it was coming.

1162
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: You wanted to take him, and you didn't just be

1163
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: willing to pull the trigger and take the guys that

1164
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: you want again within reason, there is a rage where

1165
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: it begins to be kind of insane, but toa the

1166
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: guys you want don't don't worry.

1167
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 5: From last year.

1168
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 4: And I like Brian Thomas had as a fifth round

1169
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 4: value which actually undersold him last year. And but his ADP,

1170
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 4: you guys remember this was like ninth tenth round and

1171
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: everywhere I was, I was taking him this seventh to

1172
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 4: make sure I got him. So like you can to

1173
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: your point where I'm so you can do both sides

1174
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: of It's like know that, like, okay, the ADP has

1175
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 4: this enormous gap and I can still take them well

1176
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: over ADP to make sure I get them, but also

1177
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 4: not doing it at a sane rate one percent.

1178
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap up with your number one tip, Jake.

1179
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it just came at the play, and I

1180
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 4: think this is gonna I'm gonna bring in some names

1181
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: for this is don't waste your bench. And that's why

1182
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: I was trying not to lean into too much with

1183
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 4: Tom's previous point and kind of echoing what he said.

1184
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: But I see too often that people waste their bench.

1185
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: And where I say waste their bench. Is like, the

1186
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: first two spots on your bench are going to be

1187
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: good players. Like I say that all the time, Like

1188
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 4: it's hard not to be like the first and I'm

1189
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 4: going to reference that draft, but it's for the reason

1190
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: not to be like, Haja, look at my team, but

1191
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 4: the first two players on my bench in that draft

1192
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: were Roma Dunes and Brian Robinson. Those are if you're

1193
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: playing in a two flex league, those are drafted players

1194
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: that might even be starting on some teams. That's those

1195
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 4: are good players. But after that, the rest of my bench,

1196
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 4: Jalen Wright, Tyler Alzier, Trey Harris, Jaden Higgins, what is

1197
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 4: that breakout potential, breakout potential, injury breakout potential, injury breakout potential.

1198
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying is like the other four

1199
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: spots are much better. And I hate to come for

1200
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 4: two of your guys, but they were drafted in these

1201
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 4: last three rounds. Justice Hill Overshad Bateman. Where is the upside? Like,

1202
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: if something happens to Derrick Henry, we've seen Justice Hill.

1203
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 4: He is going to what Tom's point earlier, he is

1204
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: going to be part of some time share. He's not

1205
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 4: going to all of a sudden be a top twenty

1206
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 4: running back. Rashad Bateman? What is Rashad Bateman?

1207
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: Ever?

1208
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 5: Like you hope you get a touchdown? You hope he's

1209
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 5: your wide receiver.

1210
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 4: Four in the week, another one that went in the arrange,

1211
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 4: I won't just come for your ravens.

1212
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 5: Is Romeo Dobbs.

1213
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 4: Like, I'm sorry, Romeo Dobbs, but like eight point five,

1214
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: eight point two of the last two years, do you

1215
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 4: know how many times Romeo Dobbs has hit twenty points

1216
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 4: in the fantasy season In the game zero, he doesn't

1217
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 4: even have a c And that's the thing is, like,

1218
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: why is Romeo Dobbs on your bench?

1219
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 5: Oh?

1220
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: Because you might have a by to slide the manager

1221
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: wide receiver four? No, get rid of those guys. You

1222
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 4: want guys that could potentially be top twenty, twenty five

1223
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: thirty at wide receiver and running back again after those

1224
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: first two if you're in a deeper league, Okay, maybe

1225
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: Romeo Dobbs actually needs to be there, but you get

1226
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: My point is that.

1227
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 5: Those first two spots pretty good players.

1228
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: Those next four upside, upside, upside, and again upside, which

1229
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: ties into Tom's point about using that last pick and

1230
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: looking at waivers and trying to jump ahead of everybody else.

1231
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's really worth emphasizing the difference between

1232
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: value and upside because I do think with this later

1233
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: on picks like and it's not just upside overall, it's

1234
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: weak to week upside. It's I whan a guy who

1235
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: like realistically could could help me win an individual week

1236
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: because it is a week to week game. Like Rashaw Baatemen,

1237
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: he's wide receiver fifty six right now, just these examples

1238
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: he brought up for Shabaatemen is wide receiver fifty six,

1239
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: Justice Hill is running back sixty two. I'm actually reasonably

1240
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: confident that if those guys stay healthy, they are going

1241
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: to outperform those values, but it won't be in a

1242
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: way that helps.

1243
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: You win their league.

1244
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: But they are if they're yet if they're wide receiver

1245
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: forty you know eight and running back fifty one. Yes,

1246
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: those are technically values where you got them, but that

1247
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're going to help you win your league.

1248
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: Like some of these other guys who may.

1249
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: May fall lower than they are but then could actually

1250
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: be real league winners if the situation changes or circumstance

1251
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, ends up in their favor, So I think

1252
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: it's a great call to highlight the difference really between

1253
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: upside and value. Tom, what does your bench typically look

1254
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: like by the time you're done with the draft?

1255
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 3: I end up quite often going running back heavy for

1256
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 3: my bench, and that's because it's just it's so easy

1257
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: to understand which of them have roles, which of them

1258
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: have the potential to a role, and which of them

1259
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: are going to be relevant enough for me to use

1260
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: them quite quickly into the season. So I'm always willing

1261
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 3: to take shots on RB twos or rookie running backs,

1262
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 3: and even if it means they don't have much wide

1263
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 3: receive a depth for my bench. Well, generally, speaking to

1264
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: the wide receivers i'm drafting, I'm hoping that they're going

1265
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: to be good enough to carry me to the bye

1266
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 3: week anyway.

1267
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 5: Oh you know what, Sorry, I want to jump in.

1268
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 4: You're about to say quarterback? Was Tom said this earlier

1269
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 4: that you just hit me with this one. One of

1270
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 4: the biggest wastes I see people do is drafting Lamar

1271
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: Jackson and then not only drafting a second quarterback, because

1272
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 4: you are never using that second quarterback except for Lamar

1273
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 4: Jackson's by week that is the only time he's ever

1274
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 4: getting in your lineup. But so far so is that

1275
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 4: they do that And like you said, the Caleb Williams,

1276
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 4: it's not even like the Kile Williams. They'll draft guys

1277
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: that don't even run, which what is the upside? Like

1278
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 4: Jared Golf is your second Why the hell did you

1279
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 4: take a top five quarterback and then draft Jared Golf

1280
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 4: just because he's still there in the fifteenth round, Like.

1281
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 5: That is one of the biggest wastes of running or

1282
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 5: bench space I ever see in my life.

1283
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you shouldn't.

1284
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: And I've seen some people justify a move like that

1285
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: by saying, well, I just couldn't let somebody it was

1286
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: too good a value. I didn't want somebody else to

1287
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: get him this lay. I'm like, I live on your

1288
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: own team, and like like I like, make make your

1289
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: team better, not your don't make your team more valuable? Right,

1290
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: Like what will be the we will put your best

1291
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: starting lineup week in and week out out here, It's

1292
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: not whatever is giving you like, oh I won the

1293
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: draft in terms of value based on what the ADP

1294
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: was or what consensus thought.

1295
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: It's what will give you the best chance to win.

1296
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: That's what matters to the end.

1297
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, if y'all who are ESPN gives

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Speaker 4: you an A on your draft, you probably did it wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I see this with with with trading too, which

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Speaker 1: is a little bit of a different conversation than we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, but like I'll see it all the time

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00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: where people will say, like, well, I need to win

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00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: this trade. But even if you are sometimes taking a

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00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: value hit, your team is now better if you have

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00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: eight amazing wide receivers and no good running backs. If

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00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: technically you're getting a value decrease in the receiver you're

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00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: trading for a running back, it still gives you a

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Speaker 1: better lineup to put out there. That's like kind of

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Speaker 1: the N season version of the same idea, which is

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Speaker 1: your goal is to give yourself the best team possible

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Speaker 1: and the best chance to win that That should really

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00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: be your only goal in the draft. It is not

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Speaker 1: to win the draft. It is not to have everybody

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Speaker 1: walk away saying did you see all the values that

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Speaker 1: guy got? It's win to win the league. So that's

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Speaker 1: kind of my final thought. Do you guys have any

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Speaker 1: final thoughts here? I know we just throw out a

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Speaker 1: bunch of tips. But Jake, any kind of last thought

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Speaker 1: before we wrap.

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Speaker 4: Up, I'll go back to trading one more time, and

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, it didn't really fall into my top six.

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Speaker 4: But for trading in general, I don't feel like happens enough,

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00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 4: mostly because people are scared. But here's the biggest part

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Speaker 4: of it. I don't even think it's people are scared,

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00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 4: like you said, they don't want to look like the idiot,

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Speaker 4: Like I can't believe I lose one on probably one

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 4: out of four trades I make like it just happens like.

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Speaker 5: But the thing is is be active.

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Speaker 4: Everybody playing fantasy, well not every ninety percent of the

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00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: people playing fantasy are lazy with trades. They say they

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00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 4: put they use the trade block on all these apps

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00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 4: because they want people to come to them. They don't

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00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 4: want to put in the effort. They're just looking for

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00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 4: somebody to come into their inbox. And then how many

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00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: times have the people listening. Are you guys even with

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00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: me right now? Have you seen a trade go down?

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00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: And you'll be like, I would have given more, I

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 4: would have done more than like. It's because people sit

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00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 4: on there and they don't try to talk to people.

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00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 4: Don't try to get the conversation going, what do you

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00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 4: need in trades? What do you think of this one?

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00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: This is why I always thinking be more active, just

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00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 4: put in the effort, and you were going to be

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00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 4: a better trader and have a better team at the

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Speaker 4: end of it.

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Speaker 1: It's such a great point, and I like use the

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00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: word laziness like that that might be right. I don't

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00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: know what the right word is, but like there's there's

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00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: just no willingness to Hey, I'm gonna look at my team.

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00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at your team. I'm gonna find a

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00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: deal that makes sense for both of us. It's just like, hey,

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00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm interested in maybe moving this guy. Let come to

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00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: me with your best offer. Okay, like that that's not

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00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: a give and take. This is this supposed to be

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00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: a negotiation. It's not supposed to be like, let me

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00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: blow you away with this offer just so you can

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00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: go brag about how you got so much value for

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00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: this player.

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Speaker 3: So it's also like, once you see one trade go

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00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: down in a league, how often do you then see

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00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: a glove of trades. It's like, yeah, you make in

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00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 3: that can really spur people into action. Other people will

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00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: see that you're making a trade, and then other people

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00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 3: will be like, hey, ever anyone else on my team

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00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 3: that you fancy, Like, making trades in general just helps

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00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: the league becomes so much more active, And.

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Speaker 1: I would say, to this point this will be almost

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00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 1: becoming like a trade advice show. But like, I think

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Speaker 1: it's really important and I always talk about this on

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00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: the dynasty side, but it is also true in the

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00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: redraft side. It's really important to be good at self

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00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: evaluation and know what your team is actually good at

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00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: or what isn't. So like I run into this on

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: the dynasty side with like people who really should be rebuilding,

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00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: Like it's very obvious they have like two good pieces

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00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: they should be trading for as much as they can get.

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00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: But then they're like, well, no, I'm trying to win

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00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: this year. I'm like that lack of self scouting is

1380
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: going to hurt you in the long run. And it's

1381
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: the same thing in the redraft. You need to know

1382
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: like hey, I actually am weak at this spot and

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00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: it would benefit me to make a deal, or I'm

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00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: overly strong at this spot and I have too much

1385
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: depth here and it would behove me to make a deal.

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00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: Like that ability to self scout I think is really

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00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: undervalued in fantasy.

1388
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: In general, but it is really important.

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00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 4: I see people too unwilling to give up the best

1390
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: player because it's the best. Meanwhile, their rosters constructed like

1391
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 4: the Giants, it's Molik Neighbors and nobody else. And it's like, well,

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00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 4: you're not going to win this league with only two

1393
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 4: good players. You need to you know, I understand you

1394
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 4: don't want to give up Malik Neighbors, but at the

1395
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: same time, the only way you're making the playoffs is buy.

1396
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 5: A better constructed team.

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: Everybody's afraid to get screenshot at Oh, can you believe

1398
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: I bought this tray?

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00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: You know what a loser? U tom. Anyfinal thoughts will wrap.

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00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: Up, Yeah, nothing quite as deep as some of the

1401
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 3: stuff we talked about, but just particularly if you're in

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00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: a home league, just enjoy it. Like I think it's

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00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: so easy to go to live drafts or being drafts

1404
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: where people are so so desperately worried about making a

1405
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: bad pick, and it's like, for all the reasons we've

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00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 3: talked about tonight, like you can recover from making a

1407
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 3: bad pick and enjoying it is what this is all about.

1408
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: Like and you know, getting your guys where it works,

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: getting the guys with upside and being at a steaky claims.

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00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: That's all what this comes back to. And sometimes maybe

1411
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: we just lose track of that enough. And it's just

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 3: a timely reminder to enjoy it, but don't get don't

1413
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 3: get too drunk.

1414
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: Sits up, make a quote unquote bad pick, and then

1415
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: if it pans out, you get to just rub it

1416
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: in the face of everybody who laughed at you for

1417
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: the next four.

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01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: Months, and that is super fun. Yeah. Yeah, it's all

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01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: about having fun at the end of the day.

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01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: And you know, we might know more than the average

1421
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: person because we put a lot of time and effort

1422
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: into this as our careers, but at the end of

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01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: the day, we.

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01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 2: Don't have crystal balls.

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01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: Right, you should just go out and get the players

1426
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: you want to root for that you think are going

1427
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: to help you win the league, and have fun and

1428
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, have conviction, and yeah, enjoy it. You're you're

1429
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: doing this with friends and family, maybe co workers, and

1430
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: have a good time.

1431
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: I think that's a great note to end it on.

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01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: So we will go ahead and wrap up.

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01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: There lots of good advice in this one, even beyond

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01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: just draft ding, some trading advice in there as well.

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for tuning in. For Tom and Jake, I'm

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01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley.

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01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: We'll see again next time.

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01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,360
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01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,640
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