WEBVTT - MFM Minisode 487 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.000 Hello and welcome my favorite murder, the Mini. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.079 Sooad that's right, I said that dramatic. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:23.759 You did it great? 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:24.400 Did you like it? 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:24.759 I did? 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.000 Should I say, give you more of an upbeat? 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:27.800 Take sure? 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:29.280 Try it again the minisode. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.480 Hey, I felt terrible, didn't it? 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:34.159 That was horrible? Should we go back to one? 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.559 Yeah, the mini? So there you go. I'm gonna let 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.040 you go first, since we're such a pro with that. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:46.640 Thanks so much. I appreciate the condescension. Okay, this is 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.400 quite an email I have for you right now. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:49.320 Do you know about this one? 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:50.519 There's no way. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:51.559 There's no way you could know. 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:52.920 I don't know what I know, and I don't know 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:53.320 what I don't know. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.920 I was just wondering if they're like Karen's got the email, 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.680 if they had to warn you about about this beforehand. 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.480 The subject line of this emails I was in a 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:07.000 networking group with the Gilgo Beach serial killer. That's why 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.360 I asked. So this is an email from twenty twenty four. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.279 This case feels like it's been going on. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:14.479 For sixty years. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:15.760 The when it just broke. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:17.960 Yeah, he just pled guilty. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.040 So this says, hey, you two In January twenty sixteen, 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.440 right when you started the podcast. I switched careers from 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.320 a deeply unhappy corporate cog to starting my own professional 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.959 organizing business. Oh my god, amazing Hanny dot com. Just like, 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.440 get a little plug in there. I think that would 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:38.479 be so satisfying. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.600 Oh my god, I did that yesterday and it was 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:46.120 my beauty stuff. I kind of done it for fucking hours. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.200 An hour you spring cleaned your makeup. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.240 Basically shameful and fulfilling. At the same time. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.200 You have to put a little bag aside for the 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.880 people whose skin tone your makeup actually is four when 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.040 you bought it and were like, and now I can never. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:01.480 Use this again. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:03.520 Everyone gets something. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.360 Yeah, right, Okay, So cut to present day. I'm incredibly 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.920 happy and proud of the company I have built, and 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.240 I'm fortunate enough to love my clients and my work. 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.400 Switching careers is no joke. So the first few years 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.679 were filled with anxiety, awkwardness, mistakes, and questioning if I 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:18.720 made the right choice. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.440 Hearing your lovely rants and tales of woe. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:26.240 Consistently twice a week helped really get me through those 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.079 growing pains years. So I can't thank you enough for that. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:34.440 That's all the podcast has been tales of woe and rants. Yeah, 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.360 perfectly encapsulated. What you guys have to give is so 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.320 special and I'm grateful to enjoy it. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:40.480 But back to it. 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:42.960 I belong to a networking group in New York City 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.920 for my organizing business. It's a great group of professionals 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.040 who take what they do very seriously, but not themselves, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.600 a perfect combination. I was pumped when an architect joined. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.880 I've worked with lots of architects in the past to 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.600 help design more organized and efficient spaces for my clients. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.160 When I first met him, I will admit I felt 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.400 a little wary because he was missing a front tooth 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.919 the fuck, But the more I got to know him, 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.600 he proved to be sweet, likable, professional, and just an 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.280 overall nice guy. I, along with the other members of 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.960 the group, attended lots of meetings, happy hours, and coffees 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.919 with him. I'd countless email exchanges and calls with him 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.079 over a cool project he wanted my help on from 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.200 one of his famous filmmaker clients, storage rooms that needed decluttering. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.160 So a year ago, when I pulled up the news 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.640 and saw his face and name on every headline to say, 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:32.320 I was shocked. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.320 Is the understatement of the century. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:42.080 Like someone you know regularly professionally that's fucking is a serial. 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.040 Killer a serial killer. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.480 It also points back to like you know them but 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.280 from the internet. We all have that, Like it's a 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.000 different but we're used to it, so it's kind of like, well, yeah, 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:54.240 we like the same things. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:55.760 Yeah, we know each other. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.720 The normal you can. Yeah. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.080 It turns out that Appy was none other than Rex Yureman, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.400 the Gilgo Beach serial killer. All the members of my 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.080 group started getting calls from reporters asking for comments about 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.880 how we were feeling, knowing we had been doing business 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.360 with an actual serial killer. You know that professional picture 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.960 of him floating around the internet with his arms crossed. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.760 He only got that photo taken because my group kept 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.560 teasing him about how he had. 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:23.640 No pictures of himself. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.719 The president of my group even called that his law 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.840 and order pose the irony is too much to handle. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.440 Oh my god, I've felt wrecked by the thought of 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.560 the combination of deep sadness and relief for the families 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.600 of the victims. As the news of his arrest has 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.920 come out, friends and family keep asking if I've ever 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:47.200 suspected anything, ever felt threatened or weird around him. Whenever 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.240 I hear stories of serial killers who operate in plain saiday, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.719 I always think, how could no one in his life know? 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.000 There must be something off that people are ignoring. But 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.200 the thing is I didn't feel threatened. I didn't notice 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.040 anything off because these men are psychopaths that perfect living 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.960 double lives. But he's also no mastermind. I think he's 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.560 just a coward who targeted sex workers as he deemed 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.160 these women less than. But these victims were not less than. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.600 They didn't deserve to be senselessly murdered and heinously discarded. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.800 I hope he receives the maximum punishment for robbing these 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.680 women of their lives and their families of their peace. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.000 Stay sexy and don't do business for serial killers. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:26.920 Katie m. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.599 And then here's just a quick update, because when Katie 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.520 sent this email, only three of the victims he had 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.839 been arrested for their murders, and now that there's a 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.039 longer list, we figured we'd save all the names till 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.479 the end. On April eight, Rex Huerman pled guilty to 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:50.960 the murders of seven women, Megan Waterman, Melissa Barthelemy Amberlin Costello, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:56.360 Moreen Brainerd Barnes, Valerie Mack, Jessica Taylor, and Sondra Castia. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:01.040 He admitted to killing an eighth woman, Karen Vergotta, though 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.640 he has not been formally charged with her murder. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:09.080 Wow, and doesn't it make you think like it's so 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.520 inconspicuous you would never know. So is there someone that 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:17.680 you know that maybe isn't a serial killer, but that 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.000 has that piece. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:23.160 Of them that totally doesn't care and has no empathy 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.240 and is truly cut off that way? 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.479 Who could it be? Which is like, fine, if you 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.560 don't fucking kill people, you can, like we all have 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:34.200 different personality issues, but Jesus. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.960 Okay, I mean and also just that we have gotten 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.760 to this point where now, which is such a relief 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.960 where people get to write in and go, hey, I 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.880 did business with this totally totally just like the Ted 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:47.719 Bundy story. 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.680 So scary. Yeah, okay, I'm not going to read you 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.960 the subject line. Hi, MFM gang and it's furry associates. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.040 I recently listened to your episode about the sleepwalking murderer, 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.240 and I decided to share my sleepwalking story. I could 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.000 have just read you this subject line. It's the sleep walking. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.839 Story, I thought, I was being really clever, You're going 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.839 to save it, and they immediately ruined the secret. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.000 I think I was around eight or nine when this happened. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.640 I grew up in Vacaville, California, which is where Paul 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.120 Holes is from hashtag got for Holes, and my childhood 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.760 home was on a very busy street. One night, someone 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.000 came flying around the corner and my brother's car was 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.760 side swiped. The driver fled the scene, but my brother 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.040 saw that the vehicle was a large maroon suv. Knowing 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.800 that the driver's car would have extensive damage, my brother 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.760 made flyers and posted them around town. This was before 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.680 the days of social media, hoping someone would have information 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.240 for him. A few days later, while my family was 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.440 enjoying a day on the lake with some friends, my 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.440 brother got a call from a guy who said his 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.840 neighbor drives a maroon suburban and the passenger side of 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.600 the car was torn up. Ooh, the guy gave my 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.600 brother his address. Oh this the neighbor is a fucking narc. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.840 He's just like, here go solve that problem. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.520 This blast Metallica had fucking midnight. Here we go. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.720 Yeah, yes, you can do. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.760 Fair enough, be cool to your neighbors and they'll fucking 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.200 nark on you. That's right. The guy gave my brother 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.600 his address, and he told him that the car was 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:12.200 parked in the driveway next door. Does My brother ran 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:13.840 to tell my mom and she said that we would 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.160 drive by the house on our way home from the lake. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.280 We got into town super late, and I was asleep 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.360 in the back seat. I was still in my bathing 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.520 suit and I had my beach towel wrapped around me. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.280 We pulled up to the house where the vehicle was parked, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.760 and my mom whipped out a camera to snap some pictures. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.240 This is when camera phones were just becoming a thing, 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.760 so I'm pretty sure she ended up using a disposable 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:38.400 camera from Walgreens or some shit like that. Oh, bring 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:38.880 them back. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.320 I wonder if that's what people used to do for 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.120 like accidents and stuff like keep a disposable camera in 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:44.680 your car. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.400 Motorcycle riders do that, do they? Really? They did that? 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.280 Yes, back when it was before go pro. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.680 Saw a guy getting a fucking gnarly motorcycle accident. I 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:52.960 got out and went over to him, and he goes 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.080 hey on the ground, like after he woke up. Hey, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.720 there's a fucking disposable camera under my seat. Use the 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:04.160 whole roll, get everything. Oh and I fucking r I 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.520 just remembered this part of the story, Like I knew 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.880 about that, but I forgot about that part. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.160 That's so weird. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.040 And I just fucking and I had. I was driving 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:13.240 my best bud at the time, so I was like, 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:14.040 I got you. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.680 Yeah, we were a motorbike friend. Yeah, so wait a second, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.040 you came upon this accident. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.000 It happened directly in front of me. Like, so you 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.760 were a witness? Yeah, shit, he was. Okay, I hope, 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:25.679 I don't know. Maybe not. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.720 I stuck my phone number in his backpack. Okay, he 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.240 never called me. Well he was in the hospital with 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:34.400 all four limbs in the air. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.600 Come on, okay, Well, my mom and brother were going 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.719 full Vogue cover shoot on the suburban. I slipped out 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.560 of the back seat and up the walkway of our 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.280 random house a few doors down. I must have thought 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.800 that we were home. I opened the front door, and 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.080 this is where I vaguely remember walking into a house 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.040 that smelled like smoke. However, I was so tired that 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.319 I laid down on the couch and fell back asleep. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.200 I remember that the living room was arranged exactly like 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.679 hours at home, and they had their TV on. I 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.440 awoke a few minutes later to the sound of a 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.800 blood curdling scream coming from outside. My mom was absolutely 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.559 losing her shit. She thought I was kidnapped and was 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.480 screaming my name up and down the block. I remember 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.200 waking up and looking around wondering where the hell I was. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.160 I walked right out the front door, left it wide open, 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:25.040 and yelled to my mom, I'm right here. She was 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.839 crying and completely freaking out. The next morning, I told 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.200 my mom that we had to go back to the 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.600 house because I left my favorite beach towel on their 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.439 living room couch. We went back and told the people 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.200 who lived there what happened. They thought it was hilarious. 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.480 I mean, that is hilarious, and they missed the whole thing. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.200 Yeah, But then they came out and the door is 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.120 wide open, and there's a towel on the floor, like 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.760 what happened. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.040 And their dog, Rusty ran away. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.480 Rusty. All of that could have been avoided if one 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.960 the asshole never hit my brother's car and fled the scene, 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:57.080 and two those people locked their fucking doors Luckily, everyone 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.440 ended up fine. I was safe, I got my favorite 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.960 beach towel back, and my brother ended up getting money 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.840 for the damage the guy caused to his car. Nice, Nice, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.400 stay sexy, don't flee the scene of a crime, and 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.920 lock your fucking doors so people don't sleep walk into 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:10.880 your living room. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.719 Audrey, this is such a close neighborhood. They're like, we 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.320 caught him, get over here, and then I'm on in 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.040 and I'm just go to sleep on your neighbor's couch. Oh, 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.760 that's so that's so funny. If you woke up and 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.040 you were like us, you're a twelve year old like us, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.560 where it's like someone's been here, and then you start 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:33.840 taking pictures of the inside of your house. I'll read 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.439 you this subject line since it works. I was robbed, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:42.120 it prom dearest Darling ist Karen and Georgia. In episode 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.360 four seventy five, Karen told us about the time she 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.440 was robbed by a lady in the sunglasses store on 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.440 Hollywood Boulevard. Remember that one, Yeah, when she was like 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.240 a hat a twenty sticking out of my pocket, but 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:52.559 I forgot yeah, and she. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:53.320 Was like hello. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.360 This reminded me of something that happened to me at 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.640 senior prom and the year two thousand and three. I've 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.640 just turned so this was some time ago, but you 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.160 never forget this kind of thing. While we all had 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.400 this aerotypical prom, like every other school in America, all 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.120 the parents of seniors joined together to plan something called 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:15.160 Snap Senior Night after Prom, where they literally rented out 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.960 a Dave and Busters from eleven PM to eight am 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.560 as a ployee to keep all of us from partying 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:21.240 after prom. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:21.920 Oh that's smart. 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.760 After the dance, seriously, our parents were like, go stand 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.080 in a field for all we care. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.720 Here's alcohol. Yeah yeah, here's some warm beer and zeem, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:30.520 I get the fuck. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.679 One of us will go on a cruise. The understanding 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.280 is you will stay indoors. So it says after the dance, 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.320 we all rode in our limos and cars to Dave 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.120 and Busters, turned in our suit jackets, dresses, purses, et cetera, 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.360 changed clothes, and were basically locked in all night. It 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.040 was actually pretty fun. It's very smart. As you can imagine, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.040 after a long night of dancing and then being locked 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.440 in with your entire senior class, the eight am hour 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:54.000 at the Dave. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.079 And Busters was rough. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:56.080 Oh god. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.520 I mean everyone was over it. We were all tired 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.680 physically and also tired of each other. Friendships ended, Matt 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:07.520 David Busters, girlfriends dumped boyfriends. It was a lot of togetherness. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.720 My friend group remained somewhat intact as the sun came up, 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.960 and we agreed to gather our things and meeted a 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:14.959 small staircase at the front of the building while we 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.480 waited to be picked up. Sorry, that just reminds me 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.800 of I've told you when we went to Senior Night 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.360 at Disneyland. Yeah. I was emat like at eleven thirty, 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.240 I'm like, I'm done, I'm gonna lay down on a bench. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:25.520 Yeah. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.040 And it's almost like that it is your first teenage 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.760 test of what you're going to be like to party 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.079 with ye And people are just like yes, no, yes, no, total. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.440 It's like, I'm gonna go home and go to the party. Yep, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:38.559 who can stay up all night? 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.920 I was down there first, so I sat on the 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.280 stairs with all my crap, laid my head down on 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.880 my giant cobalt blue puffy dress, and closed my eyes, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.960 waiting for my friends. Within a few seconds, a random 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.280 girl sat next to me. I opened my eyes to 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.400 see that she was a fellow PRAM attendee, but I 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.880 didn't know her or recognize her, but she seemed like 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:58.800 she wanted to chat. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.720 Did you have fun? What did did you do last night? 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:01.480 Did you go bowling? 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:03.839 I was in no mood for small talk with a 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.880 girl I didn't know, so I closed my eyes again 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.240 and gave very short curt answers, hoping she would catch 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.480 my vibe, and she eventually walked away. It turns out 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.320 she was robbing me while I was sitting there with 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.520 my eyes closed. What were you doing last night? 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.040 Did Joe fun? You'd think a lock in would be safe. 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.840 I would definitely not watch my purse, and I did 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.400 watch it, but I wouldn't be worried. Yeah, you wouldn't 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:27.000 be on alert. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.320 No, you'd think you could just sleep on some stairs 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:30.680 like a normal person. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:31.880 It's so crazy. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.760 When our parents picked us up, my dad asked me 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.680 for his cash. That's right before we left for prom. 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.520 My dad handed me two hundred dollars cash to use 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.440 in case of emergency. None of us had credit cards, 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.480 but it was to be returned immediately after we got 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.240 done at david Buster. Oh my god, it wasn't spending money. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.840 It was emergency money for flat tires, etc. As we 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.120 lived in a rural area and the prom was in 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.640 the big city. I had the cash in my tiny 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.480 silver purse, along with some earrings my sister had lent me. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.320 When my dad asked for this money, I opened my 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.160 little purse and found it to be empty. 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.440 Oh, earrings and cash all gone. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.640 I was so confused because my purse had been in 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.720 my possession all night, except for when it was checked 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.760 into the purse check monitored by volunteer parents, and then 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.880 immediately handed back to me. I knew it was the 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.600 girl that had sat next to me making awkward conversation 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.640 while my eyes were closed. A few days later, at school, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.920 people were sharing photo albums and I saw the girl 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.760 in a photo and it immediately jumped out at me. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:28.440 That's her. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.480 Oh my god, that's the girl who sat experienced toole 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.880 my money and earrings. She was the date of a 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.120 guy in my government class. So I sought him out 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.080 and said, hey, do you know your date? Robbed me 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.800 at David Busters, who is she? He felt bad and 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.520 said other people from within his own group had told 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:45.400 him the same thing. 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.160 This girls, this little klepts just gone around fucking. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.040 She robbed many people that night. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.040 Girl. I want to be friends with this girl, right, 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.680 I mean she was like on one. He didn't know 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.080 her well, he said, And she didn't go to our school. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:02.040 I would hope not. They open her locker, all everybody's 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.000 stuff pours out cash. I saw the assistant principal who 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.880 informed me that she didn't go to our school, so 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:07.920 there was nothing that. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:08.400 They could do. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.880 I felt so bad about losing my dad's money, and 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.600 even more guilty about losing my sister's earrings, as they 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.600 were special to her. I will forever regret trying to 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.440 ignore her. Yet I will also forever be somewhat impressed 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.320 by all caps the audacity to be asked to a 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:28.800 prom at another school, only to spend your evening robbing everyone. Yeah, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.640 love y'all so much, SSDGM, And don't ignore awkward conversations 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.960 in a Dave and Buster's while you have forty seven 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.200 bobby pins in your hair. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.920 Jenny that I hope that girl turn out okay, bless 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:41.320 her heart. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.240 Yeah, I hope this was maybe, And I'm not saying 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.120 this is justified, although it is, like it's a rich 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:48.720 kid's school. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.200 She gets invited to the prom. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.520 She's like, I'm going back to the other side of 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.760 the tracks and I'm going to collect I'm going to 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.440 fill my pockets or vice versa. She's like, I'm rich 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.120 and no one will ever prosecute me, so I'm going 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:06.200 to rob all these poor people whatever, whatever it is. Yeah, 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:10.240 please write in. We know you just write us an email. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:18.560 Okay. This one's called mind blowing guaranteed podcasting Princesses. I 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.720 doubt you've ever heard a story like this one which 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.040 took place in my home state of Michigan several years back. 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.240 On April sixth, two thousand and six, a van carrying 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:31.119 nine students from Taylor University in Indiana was returning to 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.120 school from an event when a semi truck lost control, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.600 crossed the median and hit the van, killing five passengers. 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.960 Two of the Taylor students were from Michigan, just north 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.880 of Indiana, and when the county corner was done, one 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.000 of the Michigan girls was dead while the other had 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:50.240 survived badly injured. I know, I hate these fucking stories. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.840 Well, also, just that thing of like the older kids 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.359 get and they leave the house totally the risk is 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.720 just increasing. Nor just went on long drive by herself, 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.080 and my sister was like, she's an adult. I can't be, like, 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:04.119 you're not allowed to. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:06.680 It's one of the reasons I don't want to kids. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:11.879 I just I couldn't do that. It's so yeah, so tough, okay. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.280 The students were identified through purses and IDs scattered around 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.520 the scene. The body of blonde eighteen year old Whitney 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.320 Sarah was transported home to Gaylord, Michigan, where her devastated 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.520 family grieved her loss, held a funeral, and buried her 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.800 in the local cemetery. The surviving Michigan student, also blonde, 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.240 was unresponsive but was identified through an id laying near 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.280