1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football club Boys. This is the 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Player's Lab, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: the Star. No. Your hosts Bury Church. Danny mccraig and 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: NEWI scrugs. Here we are, Hey everybody, It's Monday here 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: Ota Monday for the Cowboys at the Star. They Bury Church. Yes, 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: indeed we see we got the they got they got 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: little things set up. They get ready to go here. 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: But yes, yes, church Church was on time, on time. 10 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: I was the first one here to find me. Give 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: me the Tom Cofflin here. That's gonna be a lot. 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: It may cost you a lot, but that Tom Coflin 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: he gonna come through with it. Or maybe I'll be 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: like Dalta Chelsea may start with suiting in coming in right, right, right, players, 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna do half the the There's another week of 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: OTA stands for the Organized Team Activities aka the Voluntary 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: slash Man. Dalton Schultz is on a franchise tag. So 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: according to the NFL Network and um Calvin Watkins of 19 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: the Dallas Wanting News, John mac Children, the athletics just 20 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: a couple of people are also reporting it as well. 21 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: So Schultz is not coming into this week's OTAs because 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: he does not have a contract. He's upset with the 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: talks right now. Though he did say earlier I'm gonna 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: let my agent handle it. I guess now he's not 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: happy with days to handle right. Agent doing enough here, 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: So so he's not coming in. Yeah, um, that's his prerogative. 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: I hope fans understand this is where you come in 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: very safety, that this is not mandintory. Next week is 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: man into. Yes, you will get fined if you're not 30 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: at mandatory minicamp. They have the right to find you. 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what you know. The numbers are on 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: those fines, but they can't get steep as the days 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: go on. But when we get back to Dalton Shoultz, 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't blame him. I don't blame him 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: for saying, you know what, I don't have a deal finalized. 36 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to go out there and we all 37 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: know risk injury for something that's not guaranteed. I understand 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: why wait before I say that is the franchise tad guaranteed, 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: like once you signed that franchise. But he had just 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: to sign it. Sign it, come look I keep and 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: you know Twitter will start hitting it and they'll all 42 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: you people always like to bash the players. You don't 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: have to be here. It's voluntary. And it's not like 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Dalton Shoultz is a rookie. You know, this is the 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: guy he's going on the offense, not even coordinator here, 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: not a new quarterback here. You know what to do, 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, And he had an explosive season last year. 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: You know, I was the one doubting him. I was 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: the one saying, all, he can't do it, but he 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: proved me wrong last year. And he was kind of 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: that security blanket for Dak Prescott. So it's not like 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: he has to be here and don't show. Doesn't seem 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: like a guy to me at least I don't know 54 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: him personally, but to me at least, he doesn't seem 55 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: like a guy that goes out there and he's not 56 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: gonna be working out. He's gonna be you know, drinking 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: party and all the time and coming in out of shape. 58 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: He knows what, he knows what to stake. This is 59 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: a big year for him. Last year he knew what 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: was at staking. Look what happened he had one of 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: his best seasons as a pro. So to me, it's 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: it's he's gonna come in here, he's gonna be in shape, 63 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna know what to do. So to me, missing 64 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: these OTAs and all that stuff, it's not you know, 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: it's not a huge deal when it comes to Dunton Show, 66 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: because I think he'll become he'll come back prepared and 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: ready to roll. Wants it's mandatory. It's a couple of 68 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: practice in exactly, Okay, exactly, I tell you, man, there 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: are days where I can't look at Cowboy Twitter, Cowboy 70 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Nation Twitter, something like, really, this is the man doesn't 71 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: have to be here. He wants to contract. Now, I'll 72 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: say this, what kind of contract you want? I assume 73 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: he wants to be, you know, one of the top 74 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: five pay tight ends in the league. That's what I 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: would assume. So I'm gonna just give you just a 76 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: kind of a barometer here. Okay, David and Juco other 77 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: he just got broke out. But four years, fifty six 78 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: point seventy five million dollars contract, twenty eight million dollars guaranteed. 79 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: God though, that's that's that's what that's what like twenty. 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: So the other two, you know, guys who got tagged 81 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: like Jissecki down there in Miami and then Dalton Shoults 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. Now are we and this is my 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: finger sohol this is why I was like, I don't 84 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: know because you name then Joku and gets in Jisecki. 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: Those are two guys, well Joker got paid, but they 86 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: haven't been signed. There tagged but han't been time. And 87 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: the difference between to me is between Jisecki and Shultz 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: is is basically a wide receiver. You can't split. You 89 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: can't block. These dudes can't. They can't block. And he 90 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: can go out there. You can split him out and 91 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: he can and I think in my opinion, he can 92 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: win those one on ones. Like he can go out there, 93 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: if he's locked up on a corner safety, it doesn't matter. 94 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: He can go up and get the ball and he 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: can do some damage in the passing game. Shultz he 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: can do it as well, But I don't think he's 97 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: that level to where he like Ja seki Is. I 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: think Shoultz is more of a security blanket. Get you five, 99 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: gets you ten yards, But I don't see him as 100 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: a deep, big threat, deep threat defensives are gonna focus 101 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: it on him, and you gotta make sure you handle 102 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: him first. I don't see him as that type of guy. 103 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: So does that warrant a huge contract? You know? I don't. 104 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he's as dynamic as 105 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: in a Joku, as a jes Seki is, as a kiddo, 106 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: as a as a Kelsey. I don't know. I don't 107 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: see I see him as maybe a middle of the road, 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: tited who is I say him above average. I'll give 109 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: him top maybe top fifteen in the league, top ten. 110 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: So so I'll go back into Blake Jarwin, for instance, 111 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: who was the starter before he got hurt and then 112 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: Schultz got his opportunity took it took before injury, and 113 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 1: obviously injuries are part of him. Was Schultz better than Jarwin? 114 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he was. They basically the same guy. 115 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: He was basically saying because to me, you know, I 116 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: thought Jarwin had a lot of potential. I thought Jarwin 117 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: was gonna come in here and be that, you know, 118 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: be the sceams guy down the scenees deep threat. You 119 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 1: can split him out and do all that good stuff, 120 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of like a yes, yes, exactly, but he never 121 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: turned into Kelse. He was more of a Gavin Escobar 122 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: um as far as that situation goes. So I say 123 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: Schultz ended up being better than than job in the 124 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: world of economics today. Okay, would it be easier for 125 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: you to get another Schultz type guy in free agency 126 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: for a year and then go into the draft next year? 127 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: I think so with significant savings. When you start to 128 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: think about, Okay, if in Joko is the type of 129 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: contract and you're the agent is trying to get the 130 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: same type of deal, are you really ready to do 131 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: that for a tight end? And are you sure the 132 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and the head coach are going to be 133 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: back here next year? You're not sure about that. You're 134 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: not sure because like there's a lot of pressure on 135 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people this year. And if the job's 136 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: not done, that head guy's gonna be out of here 137 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: and the new guy company is gonna probably want a 138 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: new OC and all that did in the offense is 139 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: gonna change. Are they gonna the new OC gonna be 140 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: into a tight end? I mean one of the things exactly. 141 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: And I go back into this about Mike McCarthy and 142 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: I've kind of had this disagreement at times with people 143 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: who get mad about the Zeke contract. I say this, 144 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: Zeke was signed when you had a head coach who 145 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: believed in the running game. Then you go out, you 146 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: hire a head coach who's never been about the running game, 147 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: who's been a passing coach. You're mad at the player. 148 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: He's falling, ain't it ain't the player. I mean, yes, 149 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: he might have lost his step, but he's not he's 150 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: not getting opportunities he once was. I mean he was 151 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: getting twenty some carries a game. Now we've seen a 152 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: couple of games this year where he had maybe twelve 153 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: ten years. He's blocking more than he's running the road. 154 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: I go back to this is way, way way old 155 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: school NBA. It's when the Nicks hired Don Nelson to 156 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: be the head coach and Patrick Ewingl was the center. 157 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: That one what Nellie did. Nellie wasn't trying to run 158 00:07:54,080 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: the office all right down down, That's not what they did. 159 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Patrick is pounding the ball and goes That's not what 160 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: don Nelson did. So it was not a fit. So 161 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: we have seen depending on who the head coach is, 162 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: it's going to affect players. Zekiel Elliott has not seen 163 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: the kind of carries he did under a Jason Garrett 164 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: Where I mean, you think about Jason Garrett, DeMarco Murray, 165 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: NFL offensive player Belle Kyle Back, you know, won that 166 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: award and then he saw Zeke went in Russian titles. 167 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: That's probably not gonna happen in the Mike McCarthy slash 168 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Kelly Moore offense, especially when he's also splitting time with 169 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: a Tony Pollo. So are going back here to Shultz 170 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: circling back here? Are you going to make commit to 171 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: the kind of dollars that in Joko did and you 172 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: may not you make who knows where your offense is 173 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: going to be in the year? Yeah? Who know? Because 174 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: we like right now Kelly Moore, he know, he loves 175 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: his you know, tight end sets, his twelve personnel Hill 176 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: sprinkles from Levin in there as well. But to me, 177 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: I see it kind of like I said Wilson. You know, 178 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: we weren't willing to give, said Wilson, that long term 179 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: deal and we wouldn't got a guy in a draft. 180 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: I think we could have done that same thing with shows. 181 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: I don't think, and I could be wrong because I've 182 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: been wrong in the past, But I just don't think 183 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: he's that dynamic of a player to where it doesn't 184 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: matter to scheme he can just ball out. I don't 185 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: think he. I think he's scheme matters when it comes 186 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: to Schultz. Obviously we don't know what the number is 187 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: that Dalton Schultz wants and why he's sitting at the 188 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: OTA say, but obviously he's frustrated by because several reports say, Okay, 189 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: not not enough movement here, I want a long term deal. 190 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: Do you think he is he that player that can 191 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: get a long term deal? Like I can see, like 192 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: if you said, if if everything was in concrete as 193 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: far as coaches are concerned, I can see that. But 194 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: it's so so much independent air right now. McCarthy's, I mean, 195 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: he gotta get the job done or he's more than 196 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: likely gonna be out of here. Okay, I'm gonna ask 197 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: you this because you're former safety, so you know what 198 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: it is about. Checking tight ends. Is Dalton Schultz Jimmy 199 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: John's used the word difference maker or is he the 200 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: word that Bill Parcels used to say, Jack just a 201 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: guy meaning I can go find another guy to give 202 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: me similar production. Maybe he's not doing it as well 203 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: as you, but he can get this done. Jimmy. When 204 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: you talk about difference makers, hey, this sky makes a 205 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: difference when we go out on Sundays. This is a 206 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: guy that a coordinator is all right, but here's eighty seven. 207 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: Brady's looking for eighty seven. Here's this red zone. Are 208 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: we talking about that kind of guy? See that. That's 209 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: a tough one because shots. I don't want to disrespect 210 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: him to say he's just another guy because he did 211 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: ball out last year. He had he had a good 212 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: season last year. I think he had about eight touchdowns 213 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: in the red zone and he was kind of that 214 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: security blanket. Like I said, But when you talk about 215 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: difference maker, when you talk about a guy at defenses, 216 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: you go into that meeting on Monday and he's highlighted 217 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: on the board as offensive guys we have gat to 218 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: keep our eye on. Last year, I don't think he 219 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: was that guy that was highlighted. I believe defenses were 220 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: focusing more on a Mauri Cooper, Cede Lamb, Michael Gallop 221 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: out there stopping the run that we wish we would 222 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: have pad. But I think Schultz's Moore four third or 223 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: fourth on that list. Now going into this year, there 224 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: is Noham More Cooper, Michael Gallup. He's going to be 225 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: out for the first couple of games, probably more than likely. 226 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: And now you gotta Ceedee Lamb and Adult and Shoultz 227 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: so he can become one of those guys that are 228 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: highlighted on the defensive board come Monday morning that we 229 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: gotta stop this guy to make this offense become stagnant. 230 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: But as of right now, if we're talking about last 231 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: year and going into this year, I would have to 232 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: lean more towards being a little bit above a jag 233 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: because he made some outstanding plays last year. But like 234 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: I said, I would be shocked if I went into 235 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: one of those defensive meetings and they had Sholts had 236 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: you gotta stop this guy. We don't stop this guy. 237 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Their their offense is going to explode on you gotta 238 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: have them on there, because if you look at it, 239 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: if you lost the tape last year of the game, 240 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: you know there was linebackers on them. There was you know, 241 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: random safeties here and there on them. There wasn't that 242 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: specific lockdown guy on Sholts, and he took advantage of it. 243 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I'll give him that he took advantage. So then he's 244 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: not a difference maker. He's not. No, in my opinion 245 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: right now, he's not a different So if you're taking 246 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: that off the table, that's what you're trying, and you're 247 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: talking about franchise tag, long term deal, you're paying difference makers. 248 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: We need to keep this player. I was supprised them, 249 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I'm surprised I didn't have 250 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: an issue with the tag. Now, okay, let's go to 251 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: first off, Let's put the numbers out here. For Carlton 252 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: Schultz played seventeen games last year, had seventy eight catches, 253 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: second on the team. Ceedee Lamb led the team with 254 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: seventy nine catches in sixteen games. Dalton Schultz tied Amari 255 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: Cooper in terms of touchdown leaders the receiver position eight 256 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns. Okay, so Schultz was there at eight hundred 257 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: and eight yards, that's third on the team. Ceedee Lamb 258 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: had a thousand, basically eleven hundred yards. Maria Cooper in 259 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: fifteen games had eight hundred and sixty five yards. Shultz 260 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: in seventeen games had eight hundred and eight yards. So 261 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about production from a tight end. They got 262 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: production there, but let's be honest as well, when you 263 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: starts looking down the list of who you're trying to stop, 264 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: if you're a defensive coordinator, he wasn't in the top 265 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: three of the cowboys, you know, receiving or even when 266 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: you're adding the run game, and he wasn't. And then 267 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: a lot if you watch it, a lot of the 268 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: times we're in the red zone, they were kind of 269 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: a schemy plays like oh, he's gonna block block release, 270 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: or he's gonna cross the field and try to get 271 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: a pick from somebody. It wasn't like how you look 272 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: at Kelsey, how you look at those guys where they're like, 273 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: all right, split him out there. I don't care who's 274 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: on him. It could be the number one corner on 275 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: him out there. We're gonna do one on one and 276 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it up to my guy and see 277 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: what he can do. I didn't see a lot of 278 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: that from the dumping shows, you know. I saw a 279 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of you know, cross and he got picked out 280 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: here and there maybe a tight end screen and he 281 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: was able to make a couple of guys missing getting 282 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: the end zone, which is still a good thing. But 283 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: to me, if you're talking about paying a man top dollar, 284 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: he's got to be dynamic enough to where you're gonna 285 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: be like, you know, I don't care who's on you 286 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: on the outside, You're gonna go out there. You're gonna 287 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: win your one on one battles. And I just didn't 288 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: see that. And so there's there in lies the where's 289 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: the age and we don't know yet, but where's the 290 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: age coming from? Or what is he looking for? And 291 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: what is what is the team saying okay, this is 292 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: what's one worked for us. That's the challenge. But obviously 293 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: right now by schultzet deciding okay, I'm not going to 294 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: come to OTAs this week, I'm frustrated. That's not It's 295 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: all right too, because like you said, it's voluntary, it's 296 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: not it's not uncommon. We saw Zach Martin do the 297 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: that's just something we've seen happen before. I have no 298 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: issues with that. It's just about where where is the 299 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: right spot for the number and joke who's number? We 300 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: kind of look at that and just say, no, no, 301 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. And I mean the joke was dynamic, 302 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: but they got a guy underneath him, and who's who's 303 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: pretty good as well. So I was also surprised on 304 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: that one. So let me give you a number within 305 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: the division. Dallas Goddard of Philadelphia four years, fifty seven 306 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: million dollars, which included a ten point two million dollars 307 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: signing bonus um and thirty five million dollars gar average 308 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: salary of fourteen point two million dollars. Dallas Goddard is 309 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, and this year he'll um he's 310 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: got cat number four point two mills. But I just look, 311 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: I look at him, and I just say, it's a 312 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: good player. He's not a difference maker. Yeah, I would 313 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: say he's not, I mean a good player. So are 314 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: you prepared to give Schultz a four year deal in 315 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: the fifty seven million dollars range and giving him, you know, 316 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: thirty five or twenty million dollars? I mean, this is 317 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: where you're sitting at here, man, this is the number 318 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: and that you could say, NEWI, this is the price 319 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: of doing business right now for tight ends. Do you 320 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: want to pay that to me? Personally? You know, if 321 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: you look, if I'm the GM of the Cowboys, I'm 322 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: in Will's position, I'm in you know, Jerry's position. I 323 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: just don't. I wouldn't do it. And the reason I 324 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: say that is because I feel like you can find 325 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: that in the draft, or you can you can find 326 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: you can get a one year tight end to come 327 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: in here and do with Dalton Schultz has been able 328 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: to do. I mean, I maybe if he was more, 329 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: if he had a couple of years back to back 330 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: where he was putting up eight hundred yards and eight 331 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: touchdown and we've seen it, but this year is going 332 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: to be a big barometer for him. If he's able 333 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: to go out there once again and display the ability 334 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: that he was able to do last year, then maybe 335 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: we come back to the table when we think about this. 336 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: But I got to see more than just one year, 337 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: and he had so much talent around him in that 338 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: one year to where he was able to exploit the 339 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: third or fifth you know option defensively to guard him. 340 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: He was able to exploit that. So if he's able 341 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: to come out here and do that those numbers again 342 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: this year with just basically Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallup 343 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: coming off a cl and then you got a rookie, 344 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, Jayalen Tolbert out there as well. A lot 345 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: of the pressure will be on shows to go out 346 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: there and do what he does. So if he's able 347 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: to do that next year, I could see them maybe 348 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: coming back to the table. I'm a big fan of 349 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, going back to when he was in Oklahoma 350 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: catching pastors, Baker Mayfield. He's there in Baltimore right now, 351 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: pro Bowl type player. Four years, fifty six million dollar 352 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: contract he got with the Ravens, thirty eight million, thirty 353 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: seven point five million guaranteed. So if Schultz is looking 354 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: for this kind of number, and this is where people 355 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: like Mark Andrews or Mike said Mike but the Dallas 356 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: got it or at Man, that's gonna be, that's gonna be, 357 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: that's that's that's I don't see them doing that based 358 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: on just how Look they had issues paying Mark Cooper 359 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: twenty million. Yeah, and here's a guy who's been a 360 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player. I don't know how they're gonna get 361 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: to this. I don't mean with with him with Dalton Schultz. 362 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: So I think this this guy just may be frustrated. Here, Uh, 363 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey four years fifty seven million dollars contract, twenty 364 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: two million guarantee, sir, and he signed his a couple 365 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: of years ago, fifty some round. Is he is? He? 366 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: Is he that? You know? That's the thing I can't. 367 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: I can't kind of grasp my mind around because I 368 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: look out there and I see what he's able to 369 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: do on the football field, and I just see him 370 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: as a he'd have to prove it. Yes, he would 371 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: have to go out to improve it. Again, go go, 372 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: this is this is what this was. The franchise tag is. 373 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: If you ask to Marcus Lawrence to play on it, 374 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: who had Dak Prescott play on it exactly? Sorry, buddy, 375 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: you gotta do it. I know you had a hell 376 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: of a season last year, but this is how to 377 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: game where we've had guys who've made the Pro Bowl 378 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: play exactly exactly. So you can't you know, he can't 379 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: expect Why am I not getting paid? All these guys 380 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: had to go through it. You can't expect to be different, 381 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: especially when those guys like you mentioned Pro Bowl players, 382 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: all Pro players still had to play on the tag. 383 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: Guys who are in the premier positions in the league 384 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: to get paid. We're talking about d ND quarterback. I mean, 385 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: this is we can't talk about tight end. Now, this 386 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: is just right there. If Dak had to do it, 387 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: if Tank had to do it, Sorry buddy, you gotta 388 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: do it, Sorry buddy. It is what it is. It 389 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: is what it is. 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So Michael Parsons, 458 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: who is sensational last year unanimous Rookie of the Year 459 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: and fantastic job by Dan Quinn and figuring out how 460 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: to use him. So Parsons, Okay, So he's I got 461 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: to stand up because I start talk about Michael Parson 462 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: back juice I mean get he gives you that vibe. 463 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: He gives you that vibe. I'm not saying he is okay, okay, 464 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: But luckily in my career I got to be around 465 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: Junior say out who I was living in southern California 466 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: and he just talked about a guy who's got that juice, 467 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: who's got that that that swagger about Michael Parsons has 468 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: Junior say out like swacker and out there on the 469 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: field coming at you from different areas, just wants to 470 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: be good and just he's got a lot of that. 471 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: Not saying it is, but having been around Junior, you 472 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: just say, man, yeah, I wish Junior was alive today 473 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: because I would love to ask you, Junior, do you 474 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: see some of Michael Parsons in you? That's huge right 475 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: there And I can see where you say that because 476 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: this guy, like for a guy that's young, because I 477 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: forget people, I think people get how young he is 478 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: coming into this league. For him to have the mindset 479 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: that he has, it's spectacular. He's not worried about none 480 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: of the off field and all this the money that 481 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: the money that you know, I'm about this, I'm about 482 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: He's not worried about none of that. All he wants 483 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: to do is get on the field, whether it's practice 484 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: or on Sundays, and be the best player on the field. 485 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: And to me, that's to be that young and that 486 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: dedicated to the game. I mean, he is a he 487 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: is an extremely bright future. Can I say this? And 488 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't think we talk about it. Uh, This dude 489 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: didn't play the year before. He didn't play football, He 490 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: didn't play college football. And then the guy comes to 491 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: the league and does this positions. What will he do? Now? 492 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: You know the first having played Barry Church, The biggest 493 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: jump in a player's career is from here one a 494 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: year two. Now your body knows what to do. You 495 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: know what you understand? All right? I need to get 496 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: here and there? And then the coaches, the good coaches 497 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: haven't understanding. This is what the player can do and 498 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: this is the expectations where he wanted to be. If 499 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: he stays healthy. Oh sky's the limit, man, if he 500 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: stays because you know and and I look at you 501 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: know what Dwear and him, those guys were able to 502 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: do and dare Paul of Fame caliber player. He is 503 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: great off the edge. He got some of that d 504 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: Wearing him, but he can also stand up and be 505 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, sideline and sideline linebacker, combination of Dwear Von Miller. 506 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: It's it's it's unprecedented, and he was able to that 507 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: as a rookie. Like knowing your playbook alone as a 508 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: rookie is an accomplishment in his own but being able 509 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: to learn two different positions and be that high level 510 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: of a player as a rookie not even playing the 511 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: year before in the National Football League, where I don't 512 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: care what you say, the speed is different. I don't 513 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: care if you're playing a SEC big ten, it doesn't matter. 514 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: The speed is a hell of a lot different than 515 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: the National Football Leading is a college and for him 516 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: to just jump on that from game one, I mean, 517 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: it's remarkable what he's been able to do so far. 518 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: So take Lawrence met with the media early on and 519 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: OTAs the first week and said, hey man, you know, 520 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: rookie showed me up and I'm healthy. I want to 521 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: get I need to get the sack, the sack number back, 522 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: meaning leading the team in sacks. So Michael Parsons was 523 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: asked about what tak Lawrence had to say, and here 524 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: is what Micah Parsons told the media. I want d 525 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: Law to step up. I want him to be who 526 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: he is. I'm not taking that away from her, but 527 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: started telling me he's never getting that bad life. You know, 528 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna he gotta enjoy it. I want him to 529 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: get all the enjoyment that he possibly can feed his head. 530 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: So he could be a ten SAT guy. Great, But 531 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: if tens the number, I'm going for twenty, you know, 532 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: you just gotta just go out there and compete, and 533 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a race to the quarterback, you know, 534 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: like it or not. So I'm excited. Hey, Pops, I 535 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: appreciate what you've done before you've got here. It's really 536 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: good and I have a lot of respects for it. 537 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm I'm the captain. Look at me, Look 538 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: at me. I am the captain. Now it's my record. 539 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: Now you could be number or Larry Byrd said at 540 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: three point content, all right, who's coming in second? Because 541 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm here? Because I mean, and look, the guy's been 542 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: backing it up like he has a lot of bravado 543 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: and he likes the top. But the guy's been out 544 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: there backing it up. And when you put up numbers 545 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: like he has it's gonna be a race to the quarterback. 546 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: And he like he said, you know, if Lelaw wants 547 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: to be a ten SAT guy, I'm gonna be a 548 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: twenty SAT guy. He's never getting that back. But to me, 549 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: it's like when the last time didn't the Law led 550 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: this team in sacks. I don't know, but I just 551 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: felt we had Quinn for a little bit. I want 552 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: you to step up. That that was the part that 553 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: had like you free to help me out. That was 554 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: a little jab, a little bit step up. But he 555 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: was he lied, Thank you. I don't think I detected 556 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: no lies. I mean, look, let's be honest. Okay, you 557 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: know I've been on this one for a minute. Lawrence's signed, 558 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: the money has not put up the numbers, and you 559 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: can talk about old pro football focus and rushing and 560 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: stopping the run. No, no, no, you got paid to 561 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. That's what you get paid for. 562 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: I don't care what the pass rush win raided all 563 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: this I throw out there where you were against the run. No, um, 564 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: you got paid to get to the quarterback. Just as 565 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs is going to ask for a monster contract 566 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: because he takes the ball, that is that that is 567 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: what they do with the National Fall League. It's where 568 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: you base the contracts off of. If I'm the agent, 569 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, look how any quarterback sacks he had? Getting 570 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: to the quarterback is what matters. That's all that matters. 571 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 1: That's what that's what you're paying defensive players to do. 572 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: The best ones can you either sack the quarterback or 573 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: intercept the quarterback. Those that's why they're making the most 574 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: money on exactly. And I can see if this was 575 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety where they ran the ball hunted times and 576 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: this guy was great against the run. But we're in 577 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two right now, and we all know that 578 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: the past, it's a past happy league. I mean, eleven 579 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: personnel has dominated the more ports of if each and 580 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: every offense out there, everybody's an eleven personnel to start 581 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: with out with, So what matters most is not stopping 582 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: the run, is getting out to these quarterbacks and the 583 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: law like like like my man Parsons said, you gotta 584 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: step it up. I'll even go and say this, what's 585 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: impressive about Parsons getting thirteen sacks as a rookie and 586 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: anyone who can get to the quarterback like an Aaron Donald. 587 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: You have more of these quick passing games, three step drives. 588 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: So guys know, all right, I can't hold this ball 589 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: longer too long because hit comes Donald, come, here comes Parsons. 590 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: They know it's coming. So you gotta go ahead and 591 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: get rid of this thing quick. They they they haven't 592 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: understanding what they gotta do. Look, Justin Herbert is one 593 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: of the special quarterbacks in this league. He was getting 594 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: to him and they knew, all right, but we gotta 595 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: we gotta cut cut down. And so if Justin is 596 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: not taking a five I mean, if he's taking a 597 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: five step drafted, he's gonna have the opportunity to take 598 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: that cannon arm he's got and throw down thought down 599 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: the fields right and hit a kennyan ally. But when 600 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: you've got you got Mike out there, you now and 601 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: set of five, you may have to cut it to three. 602 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: Or if you take the five, understand it could be 603 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: could you could get got and and that's and that's 604 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: to me is what Mark's a great defensive player when 605 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: offenses have to change their whole mentality or their whole 606 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: approach to the game. Man, we want to attack this 607 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: defense deep. We want to be able to attack their secondary. 608 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: But man, that got off the edge, he's not gonna 609 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: give us an opportunity too. So we gotta switch it up. 610 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: We gotta go to bubble screens, we gotta go to 611 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: play action and get three step drops and get the 612 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: ball out quick. Because when you got a superstar, when 613 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: you got a guy like Michael Parsons on the outside, 614 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: you can't have the can't hold the ball that long. 615 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: And to me, that that's what mark's a great player 616 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: when the offense has to switch up their whole mentality 617 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: in order to stay away from one defensive player. And 618 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons has been that so far. And we have 619 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: seen the last couple of seasons when Tech Lawrence has 620 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: been healthy, he has been able to make a difference. 621 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: The problem has not been one hundred percent healthy, and 622 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: that's part of the game. So right now we're talking 623 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: about an offseason where where there's no issues. But they 624 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: need him. Yeah, they need Quinn needs him, Mike McCarthy 625 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: needs him. If this team has any desires to go 626 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: where they want to go, there cannot be a tank 627 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: Lawrence missing six, seven, eight games because if you just 628 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: can't have if you have a Tech Lawrence in there. 629 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: That rotation of fresh guys being able to get after 630 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I mean you're talking about to bash him 631 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: a Dante Fowler, the Law Parsons coming up, they're able 632 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: to rotate that and get fresh legs in there. I mean, 633 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a huge difference maker as far as 634 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks being able to hold the ball because those guys 635 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: are fresh coming off the line, those offensive tackles, those 636 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: guards and centers, they're gonna be getting worn down as 637 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: the game goes on. So hopefully we can have every 638 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: each one of those guys on the D line fresh 639 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: and ready to roll, because if you add d Law 640 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: to that combination, it could be dangerous for the Dallas Cowboys. 641 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: All right, So Michael Parsons, his job is to get 642 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, and that means also offensive linemen have 643 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 1: to beware of him too because he's so quick as 644 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: he's shooting these gaps here. Michael Parsons had this to 645 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: say about the Cowboys first round draft pick out of Tulsa, 646 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith Ticklus. I think Tyre is going to be 647 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: a really good player. I know because some people it's 648 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be what they expected. But I think, man, 649 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: we're all really excited about him, and I think he's 650 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: a strong kid. He gets his hands on the MC 651 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: too many people getting away with him, and he got 652 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: the best of a lot of guys here and practice 653 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: so far really made a great impression. I'm excited to 654 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: see a step forward. It seems like he knows exactly 655 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: type of player he wants to be and what steps 656 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: he's gotta take. And I think he got the best 657 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: tackle in the game to look from. You know, he 658 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: got Tyren Smith from running still, got Zach turn the 659 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: guard position and tackle whatever he's learned. I think got 660 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: some true Hall of Fame guys to learn from. And 661 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: I think he's stubbing into the right shoes and Sharan 662 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: exactly what we wanted to see. You know, he got 663 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: some of the big guys and he's like, oh man, 664 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: he got some strong hands. So I'm really excited about 665 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: That's a that's a great comparison right there, because that's 666 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: all we said about Tyren Smith when he came into 667 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: the league. Man, that dude has some strong hands and 668 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: when he gets his hands on you, it didn't matter 669 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: who it was, they were locked up. So that's one 670 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: of the that's a great compliment right there, and that 671 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: he's got that strength to be able to hold up 672 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: these guys on the interior and on the outside. And 673 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: like he said, I mean, he has two of the 674 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: best offensive lineman in the game to learn from, Tyren 675 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: Smith and Zach Martin when he's talking about guard or 676 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: whether you're talking about tackles. So for him to get 677 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: that praise it's early, it's great. And I know we're 678 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: just in shorts in Jerseys. I know we're just in that, 679 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: But to me, I like that would be harder for 680 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman the block when you're just in shorts 681 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: and pass these guys can do wiggling around and daughter speed, 682 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: but when you have pads on, you got more surface 683 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: area to get your hands on. So for him to 684 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: be out there doing what he's doing in OTAs right now, 685 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I think that's impressive. I would love to see when 686 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: he gets to pads because I want to see that nasty. Yes, 687 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: I want to see driving into the ground, just you know, 688 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: Williams type stuff. So that's what I want to see 689 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: going when we get the pads on. But early on 690 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: in his OTAs is great to hear that he's been 691 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: able to pick things up and get his hands on gas. 692 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: I think when you have an opportunity to talk to 693 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith, you're really gonna like his mentality and what 694 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: you talked about with Mica in terms of, hey, I 695 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: want to be good, I want to learn my craft. 696 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: That's Tyler Smith. The teaching and how he is able 697 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: to absorb the teaching and play is going to be 698 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: something to look at. I still would tell people he's 699 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: a project player. Yeah, he's still a project play. Mean. 700 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons played at Penn State and played at the 701 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: high levels an All American. I don't think that's fair 702 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: to try, hey, because he's a first raffic he's gonna 703 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: he's not going to be that player. It's gonna take 704 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: him some time because let's be honest, if he was, 705 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: he would have been drafted higher. So he had the 706 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: holding penalties in the American Conference at Tulsa. So there's 707 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: going to be things he has to work on. The 708 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: people who drafted him have said we understand it's a process. 709 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: Terrence Steele, to me, that is really a barometer that 710 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: they should look at them. You know, in a perfect world, 711 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: he could be a better Tarren Steele. Okay, and that's 712 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: good because I turned out to be a really good 713 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: football player two years in his career, and so unlike Terrence, 714 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't. He's got ots, He's got you know, he's 715 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: got he's gotta He's gonna have some teaching before he 716 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: gets to training camp because off covid T Steele didn't. 717 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: Then there was also the virtual or learning they had 718 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: to do during the years. So Tyler Smith is going 719 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: to be able to be in a different position. But 720 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: I would just caution people that just say, hey, look, 721 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: there is still going to be a learning curve for 722 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: this young man, and it is going to be I 723 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: think for the first maybe three picks. I mean, I know, 724 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: Sam Williams a defensive end at a Whole Miss. He 725 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: was All Pro or All Conference player out there in 726 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: the SECT first team all that, and he can get 727 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: out to the quarterback. But it's definitely gonna be a 728 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: learning curve for him. And then Jaalen Tolbert as well, 729 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: coming out of Southern Alabama. I want to see how 730 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: how he translates his game from that small kind of 731 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: college conference to the NFL. I mean, we've seen it 732 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: done before, We've seen guys come from small schools and 733 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: have great NFL careers. But I'm interested to see how 734 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: he translates because I think he'll be thrown into the fire. 735 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: Maybe even before Saint Williams and M. T. Smith he 736 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: could have an opportunity. Yeah, and that's what training camp 737 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: is gonna be about a lot of these guys. How 738 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: much how much can they take from OTAs and this 739 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp in a training camp that's something you've 740 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: gone through yourself. And and what's gonna be huge is 741 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: that that month break time. I think, to get like 742 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: a month off between the last mini camp in the 743 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: beginning of training camp. To me, that's gonna be huge 744 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: for these rookies. How are you going to approach it? 745 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: How are you gonna attack it? Are you gonna be 746 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: you know in the playbook? Are you gonna be working 747 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: on your craft? Or you're gonna have like a veteran 748 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: presence in there teaching you the game. Because what you 749 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: don't want to do is let all this OTAs and 750 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: mini camp kind of go to the waist at all. 751 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm on my break time, I can finally relax now 752 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: because you're not there yet. You're not there yet you're 753 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: not that vet status yet, So you gotta make sure 754 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: you attack the game plan, attack the playbook, and make 755 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: sure when you get into camp you're in the best 756 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: shape of your life and you know the playbook like 757 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: the back of your hand, because you're gonna get tried 758 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: and tested as soon as the camp starts. So I'm 759 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: interested to see how these young rookies attack this little 760 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: break they have. All right, Barry Church, where we come back. 761 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: Let's hear from Cowboys running backs coach Skip Pete on 762 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: the late Maryan Barber the third, his remembrances of him. 763 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: And also we'll talk about the current running back Ezekiel Elliott. 764 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: How's he feeling now since the injury. We'll hear from Zeke. Next, 765 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: this is the players lash bart to Hotels dot com 766 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: or Dallas Cowboys dot Com radio each game day. You 767 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: know what that means. First cup Bob prep, Steak Pepper 768 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: running and Stake Pepper running. Next, a counter clockwise lap 769 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 1: around the rule. 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Unbelievable person. 806 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy showed up every day, had a 807 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: smile on his face, came to work. If I could 808 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: show anybody a model and a role to develop a 809 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: running back to play in this league, it would be 810 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: definitely marrying. I mean the guy came to work every day, 811 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: practice hard every day, did a great job in the 812 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: meetings every day. He was a little bit like obviously 813 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: his name, Barbarian as a player, very physical, very physical 814 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: player as a runner, as a protector, and had the 815 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: ability to run routes out of the backfield. Very unique 816 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: in that way. But I think the thing that maybe 817 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: a lot of you really don't know about him is 818 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: that he was an unbelievable person. Give the shirt off 819 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: his back, invite people over his house, cooked dinner for him. 820 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: He was stopped by my home, play with my kids 821 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: when they were young, and very personable in that way. 822 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: I mean he was very shy when he got to 823 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing right now, but one on one, 824 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: was very very entertaining to talk to. Hadn't really spoke 825 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: to him in recent years besides when I just first 826 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: got back the man I'm going to remember as a 827 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: guy coached, how he came in this building single day, 828 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: what he meant to his friends and what he meant 829 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: to me, the guys he played with, and the determination 830 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: to try to make everyone a little bit better person 831 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: at Skip Beat Cowboys running back coach. I'm marrying Barbara. 832 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: The third NB three passed away last week right here 833 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: in the city Frisco, where the Cowboys headquarters is located. 834 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: The star found unresponsive at his apartment complex. So um, 835 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: we'll get more details obviously, as a corner releases a 836 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: report Barry he played, Yeah, marrying Barbara the third and 837 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: it's extremely sad news. But everything skip Pa said is 838 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: one hundred percent true about this man. I played with 839 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: him my rookie year and when I came in, this 840 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: is the guy that he come like. He said, like Skippy, 841 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't know about smile on his face every time, 842 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: but this man came to work every single day. It 843 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: didn't matter if we were in shorts and jerseys or 844 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: if we were in shoulder pads and we were hitting 845 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: the two of days. This guy had the same mentality. 846 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: You want to talk about physical I've had the opportunity 847 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: to go head to head with Adrian Peterson, you know, 848 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch and Marrying the Barbarian, and I would say 849 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: he is up there with those three guys when you 850 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: talk about physical runners. It would take more than one 851 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: guy to bring this guy down. And I'm not talking 852 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: about just you know, a dB Tacklings guy. I've seen 853 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: him go against guys like Igor Olsinski, who was one 854 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: of the biggest, strongest men I've ever seen in my life, 855 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: and he's been able to run through guys like that. 856 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy. You saw the famous two yard 857 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: run this guy had. I mean, he was throwing guys 858 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: off left and right against the Patriots. He only got 859 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: two yards, but it was one of the most physical, 860 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: dominating two yard runs you've ever seen in your life. 861 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: And he had that type of approach to each and 862 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: every day. And when you talk about giving the clothes 863 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: off your back to somebody, this man was one of 864 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: the most kind. Even though he had that name Barbarian, 865 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: he was one of the most kind individuals I've ever seen. 866 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: When you got him one on one, he was shy, 867 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: like Skipp said, in a group setting, but when you 868 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: got him one on one, he would open up to you. 869 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: He would talk to you about anything and break the 870 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: game down to you to where you can understand it 871 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: and have a better career off of it. This guy, 872 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he was a professional, just through and through. 873 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: And it's just sad news that he's been gone at 874 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: such a young age because I think he was at 875 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: thirty eight, and I mean that's that's extremely young to 876 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: pass away. But I mean the impact this guy left 877 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: in our locker room back there was amazing. I mean, 878 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: he's one of the strongest runners and strongest people that 879 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: I ever had had a chance to be a teammate with. 880 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: And it's it's sad to hear it, and the condultes 881 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: goes out to his family, But this guy, I mean, 882 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 1: when you talk about bringing it each and every day, 883 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 1: I mean that dude brought it each and every day. 884 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 1: And sad to hear him passing, but man, that was 885 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: he was a hell of a player and a hell 886 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: of a teammate and hell of a person. So Friday's 887 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: his birthday would have been such so young man. I 888 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: remember when he came. I remember I was here when 889 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: they when they drafted him and fourth round or out 890 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: of Minnesota. His teammate Lawrence Moroney was taken in the 891 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: first round by the Patriot Patriots and he they split 892 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: time at Minnesota and I think had Mary and been 893 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: the lead ball carrier. No way he lasted until the 894 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: fourth round. But when they had maryan Barber and Julius 895 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: Jones together, Bill Parcels had a nice he had a 896 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: nice run game going and obviously Julius did not fulfill 897 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: the thoughts to so many people thought that his career 898 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: could be. But barbera ended up with a Pro Bowl, 899 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: having a Pro Bowl year and just was a reliable 900 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: guy when he played. And I'll miss him. I remembered 901 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: we did a podcast here recently a couple of years, 902 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: maybe it was right before the pandemic, and I saw 903 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: him out here at the Star. We just we just 904 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, smiled and just had a quick little chat 905 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: with each other, and it was just nice to see him. 906 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: And he lost a lot of weight, yeah, basically, And Barry, 907 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: you know this because you play. Bill Romaneski once told me, 908 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: he said, guys, either get fit and get the one 909 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: of the two. That's it. There's no in between. You 910 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: either you're gonna blow up or you're gonna get real fit. 911 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: It's it's just one of the two. And he lost 912 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: that weight that he didn't have to have to play 913 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: that that bruising style. So he had lost that weight, 914 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: um that he had there. So Mary Barber arrested piece. 915 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: So many of us who were around you appreciated you, 916 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: without a doubt appreciated you. And that's um, you know 917 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: that that's something you'd like. I think when we all 918 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: get called home, we'd like people to say the kind 919 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: things about us that that Mary and Barber has had 920 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: said about him. Speaking of the current bruising running back 921 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, that is Ezekiel Elliott. Um. Now 922 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, okay, it wasn't one hundred percent last year 923 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: he was playing. He said he was fine. He lied 924 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: to us, Uh, not the first time players applied about 925 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: in reach. You know that bart guys, which I personally, 926 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand why if I'm hurt, I'm hurt. Yeah, 927 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: I understand with his situation to see how folks, that's 928 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: how come guys don't just go tell it. If I 929 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: was in his situation, I would because he like, he 930 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: ain't gonna get Wally Pipps, So it ain't like he's 931 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: got a oh man, I gotta I gotta make sure 932 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm out there for my job. You know, they gave 933 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: you the bag. So I'm not so sure why he 934 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: didn't just go out there and say, I mentioned, man, 935 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: I needed a little bit of rest. But I guess 936 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: you know, he's being there for his teammates, and you know, 937 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: I guess he felt that him being on the field 938 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: gave our team, or gave the Dallas Cowboys the best 939 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: opportunity to win. So maybe that's why he didn't. But 940 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: to me, I already got the bag. I'm I'm hurt. 941 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm hurt. You know I can't. I can't go out 942 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: there and perform to the best of my abilities. So 943 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: why not telling Jim Jim Meer or Britt Brown what 944 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: the deal is? They knew he just wanted to keep playing. 945 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: He just wanted to keep playing. And talk to someone 946 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: on the in the organization said, hey, man, we tried to. 947 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,959 Speaker 1: He did not want he did not want to miss time. 948 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: He wanted to play. And I just come back. And 949 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: that thing, I'm like, who's charge? Because when you go 950 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: out there and play, it's like, now everybody's looking at you. 951 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: All he didn't lost a step or he doesn't have 952 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: it anymore, you know it. It wants you on that field. 953 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: It's like all injuries go aside. People don't. People don't 954 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: see those injuries. They just look at your production. I 955 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,439 Speaker 1: see it when you when you're in that Okay, hey, 956 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: we're in this hole where we gotta do this to 957 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and you're in the playoffs. But you 958 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: know this has happened before. It happened earlier in the year. Man, 959 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: take three weeks, take a month off, get help your 960 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: team by getting yourself right, especially when you had we 961 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: had to lead in the division such a margin. I mean, 962 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: you gotta rest yourself and get ready for when it 963 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: really matters. And we saw that you know, he didn't 964 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: do that was played which hey is that warrior mentality. 965 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: Seventy percent of him got a thousand yards, But what 966 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: would ninety five percent? Maybe where where could it have 967 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: helped the Cowboys out? Here's Ezekiel Elliott at OTA's talking 968 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: about the injury and how he's feeling right now. You know, 969 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: I feel good, I said, I'm healthy, you know after 970 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, you know, it took me maybe you know, 971 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: a month or two to you know, get the feeling 972 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. But I said, at this point, obviously 973 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeling good and I'm ready to go. 974 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: This is the last year of his guaranteed money. Yeah, 975 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: so this is a major season for Ezekiel Elliott. A 976 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: lot of pressure to to really I struggled to say, 977 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: get back to where he was. I don't think I 978 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: don't know if we'll ever see that again. Correct, I 979 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: mean this is the body is a running back. I've 980 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: been told by many people, including righting backs, and you 981 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: don't have so many hits in you. And if you 982 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: go about history, I think there's only been one back 983 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: to I'm talking about Adrian Peters and when he towards 984 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: Ahl and then came back to Rush for two thousand, 985 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 1: that was able to do that. If you go through history, 986 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: he wants that decline stars. Maybe it's not steep, maybe 987 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: it's you know, here and there, just you know a 988 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: little bit less yards here and there. We rarely see 989 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: a guy come back up to where he was at 990 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: his peak, and you know that's what he was one 991 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: of the best when he was at his peak. And 992 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: I also say that because where we're talking about in 993 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: the show it was a run based offense. Yes, it 994 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: was under Jason Garrison. It's not a run based offense anymore. 995 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: And Tony Pollard's going into his last year and they're 996 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: trying to figure out why he's to get Tony Pollard 997 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: touches as well. So I just don't expect to see 998 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott leading the league and rushing. I don't expect 999 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: that that we're going to see that guy that we 1000 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: saw with a high volume putting up big total rushing 1001 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: numbers that we saw the first couple of years. But 1002 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: can you still see a guy who can be a 1003 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: difference maker and make a difference that coordinators say, Okay, look, 1004 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: we gotta make sure we know where twenty one is. 1005 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: I do believe that is still that is still something 1006 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: that's there, and I'm with you on that one as well. 1007 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: I think he can he can still get the respect 1008 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: of the defense as to where they got to stack 1009 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,919 Speaker 1: the box and make sure they slowed him down first 1010 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: before anything with this offense. But let me ask you this, though, 1011 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys will give more I want 1012 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: to say more touches, but I want to get a 1013 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: better look at Tony Pollard before they they let him 1014 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: in free agency, you know, I want to see they 1015 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: I would think they would want to figure out what 1016 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: they have in Tony Pollard before they just let him 1017 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: hit free agency like that. Do you think that is 1018 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: a that that could happen this year? As far as 1019 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: the touches are concerned with, is with the Mari Cooper 1020 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: going and seeing the ability of what Tony Potter can do. 1021 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: I don't see how they don't. They got to you 1022 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: have to maximize your weapons because you don't want to 1023 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: let him go out there and in the next and 1024 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: you realize you lost an explosive back out there. So 1025 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 1: I can see them getting more touches for him involved, 1026 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: which we'll eat into Ezekiel Eliots. And at the same time, 1027 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: knowing that Ezekiel Eliot's going to have, you know, they're 1028 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: they're they're they're going to have to make a decision 1029 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: about Ezekiel Eliot and his money, whether you decide to 1030 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: make a cut of the player, or you decide to 1031 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: do almost what you did with in terms basically what 1032 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: they did with tank Lords there at that point in time. 1033 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: Either you cut him and try and eat some money 1034 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: over the next two years, or you come up with 1035 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: a contract that reduces the number drastically and you keep 1036 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 1: the player longer. And that's what they did with Tanks. 1037 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: So they're going to have to come to that decision 1038 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: with ezekielt the way some of these contracts have been 1039 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: set for star players, it's going to keep coming into 1040 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: this position of them, all right, what do we do. 1041 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: So as you look at Mary Cooper, as you look 1042 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: at DeMarcus Lords, as you look Tyrn Smith, the left 1043 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: tackle is going to be in that same position coming 1044 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: in the next year as well. Okay, what do we 1045 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: what do we decide to do here because we have 1046 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: a player in the contract. You saw what they did 1047 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: with all Collins exactly. This is the nature of And 1048 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,919 Speaker 1: by the way, it's not the Cowboys. Pretty much every 1049 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: team league that is giving out some big contracts. What 1050 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: do the Kancity Chiefs say, Hey, you know Tyreek Kill. No, 1051 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: we're not gonna We're gonna move on. You want that 1052 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: kind of back, We'll move on. We've paid Kelsey, We've 1053 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 1: paid the homes. We can't pay you. Yeah, and then 1054 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: you got as a player, you gotta really Okay, that's 1055 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: where I'm at in the pecking order, So make moves necessary. 1056 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a huge year, a lot of 1057 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: pressure on a lot of players and coaches in this organization. 1058 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: And if you're if in some ways, if you're Jerry Jones, 1059 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: this is good. Yeah, You're gonna have some guys that 1060 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: have to have a reason to go next level. Dalton Schultz, Zekiel, 1061 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 1: Tony Pollinn, Pollard, I mean, ceedee Lamb, he's you know, 1062 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna want to be that number one guy. Tyrn Smith, 1063 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: you're center, Tyler Beyondest. There's a lot of guys who 1064 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: need to perform, and that's not a bad thing at all. 1065 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: We've seen what it did for the defense when it 1066 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: was competition, when guy needed the ball out, we saw 1067 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,479 Speaker 1: they got though, they rose to another level and that 1068 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: that defense showed out. So hopefully that same thing can 1069 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: happen on the offensive man. Tristan Hill, he got a ball, 1070 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: the young Gator, the enforcer, he got a ball. You 1071 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: can try to make this team exactly Tackle trying to 1072 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: make this team herself. He was training camp for him. 1073 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to getting out there. I'm gonna leave 1074 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: the twenty fourth to get on out to California for 1075 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: training camp and it's gonna start up on the twenty fifth, 1076 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be looking forward to seeing exactly what 1077 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: they do. There's a lot of pressure on a whole 1078 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: lot of people, from the coaches the players, and like 1079 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: you said, that's a good thing. That's a good thing 1080 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Competition breeze the best iron, Sharpen's iron. 1081 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 1: So hopefully those guys can go out there and say, 1082 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna to best year of my career, 1083 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: and hopefully as a team they have the best years 1084 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: their career, careers, money and all depends on it. Here 1085 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: something look as we know every year and you you 1086 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 1: experience it as a player. Everybody didn't come back. Man, 1087 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: everybody don't they to be right. Couple folks ain't gonna 1088 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: be here. No locker room will be different. That's what 1089 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 1: they always say each and every year. The locker room 1090 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: is gonna change. Whether it's a big dog leaving or 1091 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of guys on the bottom of 1092 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 1: the roster, that locker room will change. Very church good stuff. 1093 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: You out next week. I'm out next week. And so 1094 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: we'll convene. Do we have the one we know we're 1095 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: gonna be off? We all once once, many camp ins, 1096 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 1: many camp weekends, the word we'll be off and training camp. 1097 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: So the next time the three of us will be together, 1098 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: Danny mcquiback, well, we'll be our training camp. At least 1099 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: I'll be training and uh, we'll we'll crazy do what 1100 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 1: we did last year. Dog getting reports about what I got. 1101 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: We'll be listening and I'll be listening. You know, I'll 1102 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 1: lean on Tank, that Tank, but I'll lean on Nate Newton, 1103 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: big name, make sure he gets you right with those 1104 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: dudes and the trenches. That's it. I'll watched, literally, that 1105 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: was my thing. I would go find Nate Newton and 1106 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: watch practice because you broke to us early how Terren 1107 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: Steele was looking out there and next thing we know, 1108 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't took off at some point. I'd just be 1109 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: smart enough to know who do you need to go an? 1110 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: You know, so him, Derek Eagle, toon Nick Eatman, you 1111 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 1: know different guys Hellman, you know right when I'll go 1112 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: and watch and talk with them at camping and Bradsham, 1113 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: Christie Scales, Baby offers. There's a lot of people and 1114 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: even when folks come out, like a Bucky Brooks from 1115 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: NFL Network comes out of Willie McGinnis will come out, 1116 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: I'll go find them. It's watching practice. Let me tell 1117 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: me what you see, Carl, and I'll be listening to 1118 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: him the other line, you know, because I'm seeing things. 1119 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: But you know, I like to see what other people 1120 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: who I respected this game, who follow football, what they're 1121 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: seeing as well. So same thing with coaches. So, man, 1122 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to her brother. Real quick, real quick. 1123 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: I know we got we gotta leave him, but real quick. 1124 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 1: When did the undrafted free agents start getting a bag 1125 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: to come to? What? Your boy? The Marky's Bell got 1126 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 1: two hundred grand to come out here from mini camp? 1127 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: All these undrafted guys getting six six figures to come 1128 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: a man? Who guy, I came here for ten k 1129 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,479 Speaker 1: to get You want this ten k and mini camp? Invite? Sure, 1130 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: I'll take three. Pierson got five hundred dollars. I'll be 1131 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: fifteen or five hundred dollars times of change, right, I 1132 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: mean you got ten grand? I mean that's what Romo guy. Yeah, 1133 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: that's true. You got the Roman number. So it was 1134 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Yes, money just keep going up. So um 1135 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: one good agent, that's true. His first thing Bell has 1136 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: is a good agent, an agent. I say this, if 1137 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm in the safety room, I would be very I 1138 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: would be very cognizant of what that young man made. 1139 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: You knew I would have known he getting two hundred Okay, yes, okay, 1140 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: he will be. He will be in some packages. Yes, 1141 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: he will will dime dime package. He will have opportunities. 1142 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,879 Speaker 1: He's going to have to cut himself because they're trying 1143 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,720 Speaker 1: to keep him on. Even if it's in a practice situation. 1144 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: They're going to do what they can. When they give 1145 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: you that kind of money, they have a plane for you. 1146 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 1: And and I asked I speaking about I asked dan 1147 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: Quinn about it and in the group setting, and he said, hey, 1148 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 1: look I see him as a linebacker, and so he's 1149 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: got a type of vision that he's looking for for Bell. 1150 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: So it just sounds more and more like Damn was 1151 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 1: up there like, yeah, I think I can do something 1152 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: with this guy, camp Chancellor dot kind of thing. And 1153 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: they're like and they just said, okay, if you can 1154 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: see the vision, and based off what he did with 1155 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons last year, all right, he wants Sam Williams, 1156 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: you worked him out here, and he says, yeah, I'd 1157 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,760 Speaker 1: like to work with that player. Okay, Fine, He's proven 1158 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: to be able to get the best out of his players. 1159 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 1: So and that and that's gonna be a very interesting 1160 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 1: thing about um dan Quinn and his role depending on 1161 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 1: whatever happens here for twenty twenty three, because you're putting 1162 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of that on him. Yeah, because if you're 1163 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: putting all this on him. Then then you may want 1164 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: to try to continue that consistency because his vision may 1165 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,720 Speaker 1: not be the next person's vision. This is true. George 1166 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: Lewis can tell you that this is true about guy's 1167 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: visions and what happens in your career with it. So man, 1168 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: stuff is always beat Church, all right, Chris Bean, We 1169 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: appreciate jazz will everybody's been a part of a player's loge. 1170 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: And my man McCrae, he was trying, but you know, 1171 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: it happens, It happens, it happens. Half a attendance is 1172 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: no more. We'll chat with you down the road right here, oh, 1173 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Dot Out Radio. This has been a production 1174 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.